Transcript of Episode #54 Featuring Dr. Jess Peatross! THE FUNCTIONAL MEDICINE EPISODE! The KEYS we are missing for TRUE health, Exposing the pharmaceutical industry influence, root canal dangers and more!

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She's a visionary for the future of health care. Now, she has a crazy story because she actually left her position as a board-certified internal medicine hospitalist because she wanted to pursue function functional medicine in order to better serve her patients. What she does that I absolutely love is she looks to get to the real root causes and answers for why our bodies might be mild functioning. Her philosophy It really embraces that health encompasses the whole patient. We're talking about mind, body, and spirit. She has literally become one of the most sought-after functional medicine leaders out there. Without further ado, I introduce Dr. Jess Petras.

Thank you so much for having me, Dylan. I'm humbled by the introduction. Thank you.

It's a pleasure to have you here. I really appreciate you coming on and taking the time this evening. I know it's late there. It's not as late here, but it's late, and we had to make this happen. So let's take advantage of the time we have and get that information out there that we're desperate to do together. I love it. Let's do it. All right. So okay, look, when I get the story, because I've had good, what I would call really good, hard doctors, practitioners, when they go out on their own and they leave behind this career like you did. It's risky, for one, but two, it says a lot because you have to give up something and maybe comfort level, maybe financial, who knows? It could be a combination of everything. But to do that, it takes a lot. That means that it's a passion, and it's something that drives you. Let's talk about that a little bit. Let's talk about what drove you to that point, how you started, where you came from, and why you're doing what you do now.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I was born a little country girl in West Virginia, and my dad was a preacher and a missionary, so I learned early that I didn't like injustices. That's carried me through my career and been something that has always been a leg I've stood on. I went to medical school in Kentucky, in the University of Louisville, and I went through conventional medical school because I didn't know that there was something called root cause medicine or functional medicine. I just believed everything they taught me in school. I thought, why would they lie to us? This is the epitome of health care, right? I got my flu shot every year. I believed every pharmaceutical, anything they taught me. When I was done, I started to work at a level one trauma center for almost seven years as a board-certified hospitalist in internal medicine. Things were great for the most part until the last year, and I really started to see cracks in the system. The problem with me is when I see an issue, I really can't pretend I don't see it. I can't unsee it. I have to say something and become disruptive at that point, unfortunately for everyone else.

I was often in the cafeteria complaining about the factory farm meats in the process area, and why do we have Coke and Pepsi in the hospital for sick patients, and why are we feeding Jell-O as clear liquid diets for people who have diabetes and other things. It's just ridiculous. I didn't think discharging people on 30 to 40 medications was hell. When I complained about this, they really didn't like that so much. They told me I had to shut up or quit. At that point in my career, I was lucky enough that I could bounce. I actually quit and got trained in functional medicine. I made a fourth of what I used to make. I had to become an own businesswoman trial by fire, because there's not a ready-made system unless you're a medical doctor inside the hospital system, you have to figure everything out yourself. I probably wouldn't have jumped so quick had I known that in the beginning. But ultimately, in the end, I jumped out of the plane and built the parachute on the way down, and so it worked out. I think myself and my patients are much happier for having me get them off of medicine rather than put them on with bandaids.

Yeah, we need more people like you so badly out there, and it's become an epidemic of its own in terms of what I see. I am not an MD or a doctor, but I am privileged to know so many and get to talk to people that have the most, what some would call, outlandish thoughts and practices to what I call caring and being intelligent, which is exactly where you fall in, except at an even higher extent than I'm used to seeing, which is what drew me to you upon speaking with you. I really want to know first, what drives you to continue to do what you do? Because it's risky. I mean, it is risky to speak out. It's risky to take a jump on your own when it's not insurance-related and everybody can't afford it. People call you crazy or think that things that you say because it's not what they're brainwashed to do. Just talk me through that a little bit. What's it like? What drives you every day to do it?

One of my most favorite things about myself is the fact that I don't fake things. I'm not out of integrity. I have a moral compass that I follow that is ultimate truth. You don't lie to people. You don't lie to patients. You don't keep secrets about how to heal people. You don't bamboozle people. You don't just give them bandaids that don't really to fix them. When I saw through that illusion of what the pharmaceutical industry was doing, in my opinion, I mean, don't get me wrong, they've got it right for health care if it's an emergency. If I broke my leg, and you did, too, we'd both go to the hospital to get it fixed. But for chronic health, they missed the mark. So once I took that red pill, I couldn't untake that red pill. I had to say something, and I thought, Gosh, don't these other doctors see what I see? Surely if other people saw the injustices that I saw, and this wasn't really health, they would speak out, too. But I really got persecuted because that's not what happened. In fact, the more I spoke out and the more I stood up, the more persecuted I was for it.

It sounds crazy to say now, but I actually was surprised by that. In my heart of hearts, I thought, Gosh, people want to do the right thing. They should have a moral compass. It was really disheartening to see how the healthcare industry often does not.

Yeah, I struggle with it. I used to get angry about it, and I I decided, instead of getting angry about it, to do something about it. That's why I spotlight people like you and get the word out and spend so much time studying it and being fearless in terms of what we say and talk about. I do want to make something clear, though, because you said it, and I don't ever want to come out as being this big antagonist against everything, because that's really not true. There's a need and necessity for certain things, and I want to make clear before it ever comes across as hateful, spiteful, conspiracy type. That's not what we're saying here. The message is there's a lot of misleading on things. There's a lot of overmedicating, and there's not a lot of understanding and/or want to get to actual problems and figure out what they are. Now, I'm going to tell you some things that I found, and I want you to comment if you don't mind, and I have a feeling that you don't. One of the things that I run into, and I talked a lot about overprescribing statins, and that's clearly not the only thing, but a lot of what you see is if somebody wants an obscure drug, a RAPAPHA, a Jardiance, something that's a little bit more interesto, these things that cost a lot more.

If these doctors start writing these prescriptions, and they do it too much, and they don't prescribe the cheaper things or what they're supposed to, they can get dropped from their networks. I want to know if that's something that you've ran across, how you feel about that, and what are your thoughts on things like this that go on? How How real is that?

Well, definitely, the doctors are not in charge. Anyone who thinks the doctors are in charge in a hospital system is sorely misled. It's actually the suits and the administrators and the insurance companies that run the show and actually are the next that turn the doctor's heads. Really, I haven't run into that necessarily being kicked out of the network. But pre-authorizations are the biggest pain, and they will do anything to not have to pay for a drug, but it is a necessity for a patient many, many times. I've seen that time and time again. They have a very protected system for each other. And they don't... Insurance companies don't pay for things, actually get to the root cause for people. They do not. So it's a rocket.

They don't like people like me because I have several obscure drugs and I know what's needed and what's not that I've been prescribed. I won't take the no for an answer. I keep fighting until they just do it. Most people just, you tell me, correct me if I'm wrong, but most people just accept it and move on when they get a denial.

Yeah, it's almost like the fire in people has been extinguished a little bit. They literally just listen to people. They see it in their perspective as leaders. Really, until you do the research yourself and you start digging in, you can't really trust everything you're told. In fact, I'm of the opinion that many of the things we've been taught are not true.

Let me ask you this, and you've seen it a lot now. I brought up the statins, and I'd like you to get into that a little bit terms of cholesterol and experience there. Talk about that a little bit, and why is that happening, and what other things, symptoms, different types of illnesses that we could get into that you see are often overprescribed, or they just want to put somebody on everything. What are some different types of varieties of things that you have encountered that you find to be ridiculous?

Statins are a billion dollar drug. Billions. They made so much money for the pharmaceutical industries. There are other ways to reverse cholesterol. Cholesterol isn't all bad. Your brain is made of cholesterol. You need cholesterol to function. You need cholesterol to carry things out of the liver and back to it. It's necessary. It's when the ratios are improper or off-kilter. Then on top of that, you may have oxidation within the plaques. It's really an inflammatory process. It's not the cholesterol that's the problem, it's the oxidation inflammation within the vessels that is creating the problem. There are certain things like Tudka, for example, a good liver cleanse, actually, can reverse liver enzymes. I've just done it in a 38-year-old person who had rheumatoid arthritis. They wanted to do a liver biopsy to check for autoimmune hepatitis, and we've reversed the liver enzymes in two months back to normal. So, yeah, it can be done, and there wasn't a statin involved. So I really try to do exactly what you can do with pharmaceuticals with herbs, minerals, vitamins, things like that. And that's my first effort, because even though it may be a slower process, people don't get whiplash and the side effects because things happen so quickly with pharmaceuticals.

Yeah, I appreciate. Other things that are BS. Let's talk about SSRIs and antidepressants. Oh, my gosh, the studies that are coming out now, right? Most of it's placebo effect. We have an epidemic of mental health, and we just give people bandaids, or they've been looking at what is going on in their life. Have they been outside that day? Have they moved their body. What are they putting inside their body? What water and food are they eating? Everything, everyone's inflamed. So that's another one. Ssris and antidepressants. A lot of the diabetes medications aren't necessary for type 2 diabetes, not type 1, type 2. Really, you can give someone cut out gluten, cut out processed dairy, cut out seed oils, give them the Mediterranean Organic Diet, have them walk 15 to 20 minutes after meals, give them some Burberine, some Bitter Melon, some Chromium, some Vandium, some things like that, some Mineral Status, reverse that mitochondrial damage that leads to diabetes. You don't always have to go on foremen or GLP-1. Lifestyle changes do actually work.

100%. I want to get into some aspects of health that aren't ever talked about at the doctor's office that I really focus a lot on. I have a firm belief that you do, and I want to bring up two aspects of things. One, cellular health, because you mentioned mitochondria. Two, gut health. All right. What I find, and From all of the experts I've talked to, the studies that I've put down now for years and years, all diseases generally start in the cell, whether it be in the cell membrane or the mitochondria, and/or because of a leaky gut condition. Inflammation and cellular damage, oxidative stress leads to the cause of all diseases, mitochondria issues, degradation. Let's touch on those. One, do you agree or do you think I'm nuts? Two, why Why on Earth are these not the things being focused on when we're going to the doctors and to different specialists that don't seem to specialize in much because they don't know about this type of thing?

No, we were given what, 4-6 hours of nutrition in medical school?

Yeah.

Doctors don't know, okay? The thing about our diet and everything that's put into what we're eating right now, it causes a lot of inflammation with people. I think you're right. The gut is a big central point for people. The gut-brain axis is connected. If you have, when you injure your brain, you injure your gut, and you injure your gut, you injure your brain, and vice versa via the gut-brain vagus nerve axis. When you said you mentioned cellular health and mitochondria. Absolutely. That's a catch-off for so many different diseases because mitochondria in every single cell, but red blood cells. If your cells aren't working properly, then make up those organs. How do you expect the organs to function properly, too? They cannot. But I'm going to take it even a step further. The root cause for me is usually dysfunction in the autonomic nervous system. People start moving from ventral vagal to dorsal vagal, according to the polyvagal theory. And when you're in ventral vagal, you feel connected. You're not dissociated. You can make decisions. You belong. You have a community. All your digestion, your hormones, your neuropeptides, everything is secreted in a symphony that's perfect.

However, as you start moving up into flight or fight or sympathetic arousal, you start fear, jealousy, frustration, anger. You're in that I can still driving state. I can. So that square peg in a pagan around hole, right? But you know what starts to change your pupillary size, your voice propensity, your way your nerve peptides and hormones are being released, the way your defense mechanisms are occurring, and even your gut health. As you move into I can, from I can to I can't, that's when you start dissociate, doomscrolling, can't make decisions. Everything's fine in your day, unless something happens out of the ordinary, and you just want to hermit in your house because the world doesn't feel safe. And that's a parasympathetic emergency. And that's where most Americans are, in functional freeze. And that changes everything. There's not a pill to fix that. Good luck. So you have to get your nervous system back on track, because what I've realized in my career is I can half the time people need a detox or a protocol if I get their autonomic nervous system balanced. And until I do that, I'm spitting their wheels and wasting their time and money.

We have to get them to calm down the inflammation, the brain fog, the fatigue, all of that coming from the gut-brain axis. But a lot of times, it's coming from their inability to feel safe in their body, in their environment.

Wow, I love it. That is a tremendous breakdown. It's not one that I've heard a lot, and I appreciate you getting into that. I think that a lot of times people, and I've dealt with this a lot with all the bodybuilders I've trained and people, because I've spent so much time doing nutrition, professional athletes, and everybody just wants to take something and it's going to work and that's it. That's just not how it works. If you're not hormonally optimized in a lot of circumstances, I can put you on everything under the sun, and it's never going to work like it's supposed to. I think that it's inbred into everybody's minds. We want everything right now, right now, right now. Everything, pretty much in life, in all aspects, with health, rebuilding, it's a marathon, not a sprint. It's a long-term thinking and a long-term process. Things change as we age, environments change, things internally change. How do you handle that with people?

It's hard. People have to a growth mindset, and they have to be open. A lot of people are so rigid, and they're sick because of their rigidity, which is the opposite of health. Health is resiliency. You should be able to have a cheat meal every now, and they're not real for two days. You should be able to have a glass of wine and have a hangover for three days. If you're not doing that, you're not resilient, and that's not health. So rigidity is actually the opposite of health. We want you to be able to flow through this. I have to talk to people, and a lot of people have these... They want to control the process. They don't feel safe. They don't trust their practitioners. So there's a lot of things that go into this, family dynamics as well. And one thing I've noticed with people is if they're stuck in flight or fight or sympathetic arousal, their body contracts and it doesn't release toxins. So people are stuck in flight or fight. I can see on their total tox test when we do, they'll be full of phthalates and pesticides and parabens and pathogens and heavy metals.

And then I'll ask them, How many times do you have bowel movements today? Oh, I go every three days. Wait a second. So you're telling me you're complaining of brain fog, and that's how we release toxins through the bowels. You're complaining of toxin overload, basically. And your second flight or fight, which is the opposite of rest and digest. So how can I expect that your body is going to release any toxins. Until I can calm people down, they won't sweat properly, they won't poop properly. And then anything enters their body leads to filling up their toxin bucket and a label eventually, rather than dumping them out as they should off their drainage pathways and detox pathways.

See, that's it. You say that, and you say that to me, and I'm like, That is insane. If you're not having a bowel movement, I'd say even once a day, maybe a little low, it's even twice a day. Maybe once is fine. I'm more of the belief of two. But regardless, three and four days on top of being absolutely miserable, like you said, the toxin build up. Let me ask you this before I get into how bad that is, like you were getting into. But is that a lack of fiber Is it diet-related? What's the cause of that? So people that are going through that have an idea.

It is the vagus nerve. The vagus nerve connects the brain. It comes out of the back of the brain. There's one on either side. It runs all the way down. It sings love songs to different parts of your body, innervates them, or sends branches, nerve branches to them, to your thymus, to your heart, to your thyroid, to your gut, to your small intestines, to your liver. And so if anything is off kilter, you're not going to have the right vagal response or autonomic nervous system response. So when people are stuck in fight or fight, they're not able to make stomach acid from the vagus nerve talking to the body. So then without any stomach acid, you can't break down food. It's like an anvil in your gut and doesn't propel forward in parastasis.

Wow.

Yeah. That's why people can't go to the bathroom. They don't have stomach acid.

Wow. Okay. Well, see, this is why I love this because learn something new every day when I get to talk to people like this because I have my own assumptions and beliefs on that, but that It was very intriguing, and I'm really glad to be able to get this information out of you. You keep going back to that. How do we treat that issue?

There are a number of reasons people can be constipated, but for stomach acid is a big one, especially if people are bloated all the time. If they're bloated, they're constipated, that is a sign that they don't have enough stomach acid to move things through because it disintegrates their food so they can absorb and assimilate it properly.

What causes this problem to occur? Is it all diet-related? Is there any stress relationship there? Lack of sleep? What is it? And then two, what are your different methods on treating it? How do you know the severity? Is it through a blood panel? Let's dive into this and get a better understanding of all of this.

For sure. I spend an hour with each person when I talk to them. Oftentimes, you're right, it's all the above what you said. Stress is playing a huge role. Their diet, if they're eating gluten, processed dairy, just chemicals in general will play a big role for a lot of people with food sensitivities and just slowing down of gut motility. Oftentimes, there are pathogens involved, right? If you have something like parasites or Ceebo or Ceefo, which is fungal overgrowth in the gut, that too can slow down the transit through the gut and really cause problems for people. Like I said, you're going to have eventually neuro and brain inflammation, too, if you've got inflammation.

So when you brought up parasites, how often or how prevalent is that? Because that's one of those things that you go to the doctor, they're not going to ever even think of that or bring it up. So how big of a problem is that? And to expound on that, if it is a bigger problem, how does somebody get one?

Absolutely great question. So first and foremost, yes, parasites do not understand borders, so they do not know that this is their first world country. Second of all, our food system is not that clean anymore. It's not. It's very easy to get a parasite in this country, especially when people are immunosuppressed because they're full of toxins. I see people with parasites day and day out all the time. Parasites are not bad at their job. They've been around as long as as us. They're excellent at hiding. There are certain symptoms that are very specific with parasites. Now, the tests are sorely inaccurate. If you can find someone to do a PCR test, we know how accurate those are from COVID, wink, wink. Pcr have a lot of different things that are wrong with them. But the real art is having someone look at the slide under a microscope, a parasitologist, to look under a microscope. I have one lab that does that. And so it's the most accurate I can find. But what's most accurate is asking people's symptoms to go with that. And they get them. You ask me where they get them. They get them from things like letting their dogs lick them in the face or eating raw sushi or traveling to a third-world country and getting food poisoning.

And then their gut was never right. I hear that so much. And there are people that absolutely get it in the United States, day in and day out.

I want to bring this up because when we were doing your intro, especially, and you and I talked about this prior, but we talked about heavy metals and toxicities and things like that. So we got parasites. I want to talk about heavy metals, and then I'm going to expound upon where I'm going with this. But talk to me about heavy metals. When you say that, because You and I know exactly what that means, but a lot of people don't. What are we looking at when we say heavy metal toxicity? How bad is that really of a problem? And what negative effect can that have all the way around?

Everyone who comes to my clinic gets a total test by Vibrant, where we look at a urine dropship kit to see how many mold, heavy metals, and environmental toxins people have in their body. And all day, I see heavy metals, all day. And so there are lots of ways people get this. They're very ubiquitous in the environment. They can be in the water supply, they can be in our food supply. If you live near a highway or a mining site, anywhere like that, you can get them. Injections, vaccines actually have metals as well. Fish, shellfish, and things like that. There are lots of different places you can get them, and certain people's genes don't let them recognize and remove heavy metals as much as some other, their neighbors sometimes. Then people have that drainage or detox pathways. They're not pooping, they're not sweating. And things get clogged up, and stagnation is what breeds disease. Certain symptoms with things like over 80% of people with mercury toxids, and you have irrational anger. So there's lots of different things. I mean, you guys may have heard the Mad Hatter from Allison Wunderland. The reason they called him mad was because he was a hat.

He cured hats with mercury. Back then, felt hats. So that's why he was a mad hatter. Aluminum actually can cross the blood-brain barrier. It's linked to neurodegenerative conditions, right? So there's lots of different ways that heavy metals can present a problem within our body.

Yeah, and that's where I was going. So you brought up a couple there. Can you give a rundown of what we're looking for with metals? Like what's tested? I know, like you said, mercury, you said aluminum. Those are the two that, for me personally, that pop immediately when I think of heavy metals. Those are right at the top. Are there any others that are commonly tested for or common problems that you see that are high in people?

Yeah, for sure. Arsenec is another one we test for uranium, which breaks down the radon and is radiation. It's really hard to remove as well. Tin. We see a lot of tin. I see a lot of lead. There are quite a few. Covalk is one that we look for. Cesium. There's of different ones that we can see. We even look for barium. People will tell me, Oh, I just recently had a barium swallow at the hospital. Sometimes we can figure out where they come from, but a lot of times it's a mystery for people. One of the main places I see people get the highest amount of heavy metals are if they have breast implants.

Really? Yes. Why? Why is that?

Breast implants have upwards of 50 different chemicals, and then including Epoxy Resin, Polyvinal Chloride, which is in the Ohio Dope, deep realm of spill, and tons of heavy metals, including silicone, which is a man-made toxin, not silicon.

I believe, and I want to know because you wouldn't have the actual facts on this. I don't have numbers in front of me, but I believe that heavy metals and toxicity like this, I think that's a massive problem. I think it's become a really, really big problem. I'll tell you why I say this, because the more people that I work with that come in for... Because I do a hormone optimization, and people come to me to fix that constantly. What What I find is that when I start digging and do these tests, there's always some toxic issue there going on. I find, I don't want to say with certainty, but like 97% of the panels I run have some toxicity issue there on top of other things. I think that's causing some of the problems with liver, with kidneys, blood counts being off, some of these side effects. I think they're big problems. I'm wondering what you think.

Yes, I completely agree with you. I see trends in people where they have the worst vitamin D in the toilet, like hen. Then they will have like, I'll see signs on their blood work if they're not absorbing B vitamins. I know that they're inflamed. People, in general, it's just, yeah, you're exactly right. I completely agree with you as to what the root causes with some of this. I mean, I just think that people, they don't understand how the body works. They don't understand that toxins, when they build up, can lead to a label or an ICD-10 code. They don't understand that mold is sarcoidosis, and water-damaged fungus in house is sarcoidosis. They don't understand that the same people who are sensitive to mold have a genetic haplotype that also predisposes them as a Graves disease. If you are someone who's in mold, you might end up with Graves disease if you have HLATR. They don't understand that rheumatoid arthritis is Lyme's disease until proven otherwise. There's a lot of different things that people think are root cause, and they don't understand that toxin and pathogen overload leading to label.

I'm assuming, do you take clients of your own? Do you have one of your own practice that you take clients constantly? Okay, that's what I wanted to let people know, because the type of work that you're talking about and doing, I believe that people would be hard-pressed to not come and see you, especially people that are at a loss, where they're being told they don't know what's wrong with them, everything seems fine and checks out. All right, so I appreciate all the information, and I could talk to you all day about this, but we got things that we do have to talk about in the time. So you've gone through some shit, I believe, over the years, and had some things happen, and some things vaccine-related, maybe, that you want to talk about a little bit.

I was, unfortunately, in California, back before COVID, when SB 277, SB 276 were passed by Senator Richard Pan, who wrote the laws. What this meant was SB 277 made it pretty much illegal to give vaccine exceptions, et That's unless there were four reasons. Like an immediate family member had a small seizure, concedures to the vaccine. There was all these reasons, okay? So I paired up with a pediatric naturopath, and both of us were very passionate about giving vaccine exemptions to children that we thought had, Gosh, we all have different genes, and different genes are activated. Not everyone can handle the same toxic load. And people don't want to realize you wouldn't give metformin to everyone. Why would you give blanket medicine and a vaccine to everyone? It just doesn't make logical sense. And so I thought, I'd like to help the population, these children that are fragile, by making sure that they're safe to have this. Dendriti doses of vaccines by the age of 18 in California, according to the CDC schedule. Not everyone can handle that since we got maybe 15, right? So we started getting these vaccine exemptions. Well, what California did was when they passed SB 276, they went back and retroactively punished medical doctors for following the law under SB 277.

And they got us from minutiae, not sending charts in time or not doing the proper physical exam. And they were subpoenaing patients' records through the Health and Human Services Department under the guise of checking legitimacy of vaccine exemptions, but not asking permission to open the patient's chart to do so. This happened to me personally. Hhs requested a chart for me in my clinic, and we thought it was a It's going through a divorce, fighting over what they wanted the kids to do, right? So we thought the new thing. It was actually the Medical Board of California. So they came after hundreds of us doctors like this. They only needed two patients to get us in trouble. What they did was this nulled all of their vaccine exemptions we did for fragile children if they got us in trouble. So that was the ultimate goal. So when they came to me with these two exemptions I did and said, You're in trouble, you can get three years probation, you can take 60 hours of our reeducation. You can take a stipulated license. I said, I don't kiss the ring of Kings. Here's my license, because I didn't make money that way anymore.

And I thought the bigger play was to mediaplitz them. You know what happened? It was right during COVID, and everyone was scared to talk that with me. Dr. Peter McCola was the only one who would interview me. They put on my surrender, disciplinary surrender. I was made to surrender, and it was actually willing. I didn't have to, but I thought it was the bigger play. For three years, I've done a medical license, and I've really had to practice as a health coach. About three weeks ago, Florida came to me and said, Here's your full license without any stipulations.

Yes. Life. That's a beautiful thing. Wow. You know what? That's how God works. It always comes back around and works the way it's supposed to, and that's why. The darkness always comes to light. It might take time, but it always does. People like yourself that work hard to show it and expose it always end up coming out on top somehow, some way. It's funny how that works, isn't it?

I didn't know if it would... I'm surprised that it happened this quick. I was really happy. I was really pleased with people making the right decisions because I don't know about you, but I was censored, canceled, everything else during COVID because it was very outspoken what was happening. It was outspoken about forcing 72 doses of vaccines on anyone. I think what we did with the adults with COVID was what we've been doing to children for years.

Yeah. I mean, at that time, I was talking steroids, bodybuilding. It still got shut down, and it wasn't even anything COVID-related. I've got shut down twice with millions of subscribers. I mean, no. Yeah, I've lost a YouTube channel, actually three times, and millions of subscribers, just total losses, and I just don't go away. Sometimes, perseverance speaks volumes, and people see that, and it inspires them, and encourages them, and it shows them that when you believe in something and you won't stop, that you will always reign supreme somehow, some way in getting the message that you're trying to do if it's a good one. I think that that's part of what makes this conversation what we do special. It's not that you and I are special. It's the message we're trying to put out is special. I think when you look at it that way and you see it from that view, you can resonate forever.

Yeah, it's so true. Yeah, it's the bigger picture. It's a universal truth. It's like a smile in a different country. Everyone recognizes that. It's universal. There's a moral compass, there's a code of ethics, and legality doesn't equal morality.

No. I don't want to get too much into the whole vaccine thing, but my problem was never that I'm against the vaccines. I mean, there's been several that are necessary, I think. But I think when my biggest issue is when somebody is telling you that everybody has to do this, And one of the biggest obstacles that I ever had throughout my early career when I was talking to people about supplements and peptides and sarms before anybody knew what they were is, you only got 10 years of research on This is nothing. We don't trust you. We don't know anything long term. And then I battle this and battle it and battle it. And I'm like, well, I get your point, but there's still 10, 15, 20 years to go back on. But I understand you want hundreds of years. Okay, then you're telling me, something that's never been tested, nobody knows anything about. And then you want me to believe that it's okay and that everything's going to be la-di-di-di-di. It's going to work. And it's like, man, there ain't no way in hell I'm buying that. I am not buying what you're selling. I never personally took it, which I'm thankful for because I already found some hard things with myself that I would be terrified right now and don't know what my circumstance would be.

Maybe some people say, Well, they're fine, and that's okay. But I have seen a lot of negative things that have come about about that. I think what my point is, is listen to what your mind is telling you. If something seems off, it probably is.

Trust your gut. Trust your intuition, knee-jerk reaction first is usually onto something. We survived a $10 billion propaganda campaign, in my opinion, because I've seen so many injuries from that vaccine, unfortunately.

What injuries have occurred Why? Why does this happen? Because I don't think a lot of people... Because everybody gets so emotional and so angry on both sides. It's the people that don't even know what they're talking about and say, Oh, you got to have it, or you're just evil. And then the other I know people that don't have any science to tell me on why it's bad either. I know because I know, but a lot of people don't. I like rational people that are calm and explain shit. I would love if you could do that because I think that would be very helpful.

For sure. So the COVID vaccine inserted a spike protein, and they thought it stayed at the site of the injury, but it doesn't. It actually moves throughout the body, gathers in a lot of the reproductive organs. It was a very leaky vaccine. And there are leaky vaccines. If you type in leaky vaccine in CPI, you can see the published studies on leaky vaccines. So a lot of women's cycles, and a lot of people complain they felt poorly after being around people who are vaccinated. So definitely the spike protein makes you a little spike protein making factory, and can cause a lot of inflammation, inflammation in the heart, like myocarditis, I guess. Right. That as well. And a lot of people who have... Because of the spike protein keeps being made, they keep having things like heart palpitations or brain fog and fatigue. Seventy-four % of people with long COVID have Epstein-Barr reactivated, according to a World Health Organization study. So it's reactivating things like Lyme disease, an Epstein-Barr virus for certain people who have that Lyme dormant in their body. Unfortunately, once that happens, the body is overtaken with pathogens that it's spinning about the vagus nerve.

As we talked about, that connects the gut brain axis is a little rattled in those people. Mundria are a little deficient in those people. They don't have that same nitric oxide production as others. Really making sure they have enough vitamins, minerals, making sure they have nitric oxide production, that you're treating them with GABA, something to help calm their nervous system, can really make a big difference for some of these people. You've heard McCullus Protocol, things like Zinc, vitamin C, quercidin, netokinase, things like that actually really help long COVID, too.

Yeah, I'm familiar with all of these. I interviewed Dr. Robin Rose, and she's a COVID expert, and we got really deep into this. She brought up so many things and has helped me when I've had COVID protocols to get on that actually worked amazing because I've had it seven, eight times. Oh, really? Yeah. I have been super susceptible for some reason, but the last time when I had it, her protocol had me two, three days, and I was like, because I had some long ones that were a couple of weeks. And so it was a really strong protocol. Let me ask you this before we move on. What is, in simple terms, spike protein, and why is it so dangerous?

So the spike protein is something that was manufactured. It's not something that is native to our body, right? It's not something that our body has ever seen. And the messenger RNA vaccine is new, too. People will say, Okay, it's been around 10 years. It's not been used on the population like it has here recently, right? So the spike protein, in general, is this key structural protein that's found on the surface of certain viruses. And what made it famous was COVID or coronavirus, right? So it's a glycoprotein. It's a sugar molecule. Basically, a protein with sugar molecules attached, and it extends off the virus's surface. And it gives the coronavirus its crown-like structure. That's why it's called corona, it means crown, and that's the spike protein. And there's a number of different spikes, and that's actually what helps the virus. It's a crucial role in attachment and entry into the cell. Via the spike protein. They use that in the virus to get inside the cell to actually- Get it. Right. That's what happened with people.

I understand. It's a little passage way of problems, essentially in short. I got you. All right. I don't want to get any more into this because then I'm going to get a little pissy about it. We will just say that we've got a better understanding of things now as to why it occurs, what goes along with it and what has come along over the years with it. We'll just stick to that. At least we're more educated now. That's understandable because at the time, it is cause for concern and panic and a lack of understanding. I just wish there was more understanding amongst people that we don't know. I understand panic and wanting things right away, but there has to be a patience to test and understand things as and not be tricked and duped. Unfortunately, people in power or people with say so really, really proved, wow, we got to be really careful about what we listen to and do in the future.

Who would consider our authority?

That we don't. That's it. I've never been good with authority myself. I just feel, Dr. Jess, that when Somebody asks a question, any type of question, if the person answering the question gets angry, impatient, annoyed, skews off, starts to give these political answers, that's everything but the answer, I don't, for one second, trust anything they're saying and believe any of it.

Right. I think that's true. I mean, if you have to get defensive, oftentimes you're hiding something, right? Or you don't know.

Absolutely. All right. I want to switch route here. I want to into some of your products. I've said it multiple times. Now, I'm a supplement guy. I've been a supplement guy. I've helped create them. I know them inside and out. I know the good and the bad. And you have a pretty precise line that you've created. It's not a wide line of all kinds of crap that it supposedly does this, this, and this. I told you when I saw it, I said, Holy shit. I mean, some of these... You spent me a couple here that I have. But the electrolyte complex, for instance, I told you, wow, this is one of the most complete electrolyte mineral complexes that I've ever seen. You talked about Tudka, which I know about from the bodybuilding world, but a lot of people don't. I know, I'm privy to this, that that is the best for liver. You can talk about this as well because you obviously know everybody goes to milk this, which is fine. I'm not saying it's not. Or NAC, Hathorn berries. Why is Tudka the primo of primo for liver? Then let's just expound into why you created what you came up with for your product line, why your focus.

Tudka is one of our products that was launched maybe second or third. I have it right here. It's like you said, NAC, Inacidylsustine, milkthesal, Xilagip, and Tadka. Tadka stands for Tauro-Uriso-D-Ocholic Acid. It's mouthful. But actually, gastroenterologist GI doctors will use this to promote and move the bile. And why should you care about the bile anyway? Okay, well, the bile helps you just absorb fats, break down fats and absorb them. It helps you absorb fat-soluble vitamins like A, D, E, and K. It's really important. There are a lot of things that hide in the bile. Parasites, mold. It's very... Anything that loves fat is going to be there. Okay? And so many people's bile gets stuck. Any ladies that have had their gallbladder taken out have had the bile stuck. Any gallbladder issues a stuck Bile. So that's why you should care. It also helps regulate your bowel movements, too. Tudka is a full on liver cleanse. Taurine is the T in Tuck. It crosses the blood-brain barrier and helps with cognition and energy. There's a lot of published studies on this for reversing Alzheimer's, neurodegenerative conditions, which is surprising because it's also for the bio.

It also helps reverse liver enzymes. I really get people's cholesterol back in check with this without statins. One of my favorite supplements that people tolerate really well.

Well, and that's the thing, multitudes of benefits, and I learned that by giving it to steroid users that are taking steroids that were causing high levels of liver toxicity. When I was helping develop products for them, cycle support products for people on steroid cycles, this was always what I would try to make sure that was included in those formulas. It's not the cheapest thing, and it's not the most well-known thing. That's why a lot of people don't use it for both.

I have a lot of Tudka on the market. I know it's handy.

No. Honestly, 90% of the people that have Tudka are from the bodybuilding industry or have been in that industry, and they're catering to those people. I love the fact that you're bringing that to everyday people and shedding light on that. And you even do have Nack and Milk this along with it. So you have an ultra combo on this. I love it. And Tudkiff listed first on the blend, so we know that you've got the most of that in there. So that's tremendous. Now, talk to me about this one because this was honestly the one that caught my attention. Element? Yeah. Well, it did because I sweat a ton. I'm also taking Jardiance. So you got two things here that are working against me in terms of losing electrolytes and causing imbalances. And then I also am very aware of people's lack of selenium and copper and chromium and iodine, all of these things that people don't even really know that much about for general people that are lacking in so many areas. Those are ones that I commonly see. Then we're looking at thyroid and wondering, why is the thyroid back? Because you're not getting proper iodine, selenium.

How did you come up with this, this combination?

I had a friend who had a similar product that had actually personally rescued me. Theirs had B vitamins in it as well. But the high dose minerals had made such a difference for me. You have to take that on a full stomach because it's such high dose. It's beyond the It's a daily allowance. It will cause nausea. But people don't understand how necessary these minerals are. Boron releases free testosterone. It helps you sleep. It activates. It helps with magnesium vitamin D. It helped to activate vitamin D, to create that. There's a B2 and vitamin E help with hyperlactin levels. It's really important, and people don't understand. Minerals have this quality where they look like heavy metals. And so heavy metals can get inside the body where minerals are, like arsenic looks like heavy charge. And so they can get in there in places like the Crab cycle, the electron transport chain, where your body's making ATP and energy. And they can cause a traffic jam there. It stops everything because there's supposed to be a mineral there as a co-factor, and instead there's a metal inserted. Minerals can do this thing called ionic mimicry, where if you give them a high doses, they could knock the metals out of their binding sites because they look like metals.

If your drainage pathways are open, you can sweat, go to the bathroom and all that stuff, you can release them rather than recirculating them in the body. Those minerals are so important as cofactors and enzymes and different reactions throughout the body. People don't understand how minerally How efficient they are.

When I look at this, and this is for the comfort level of others, so when you have something on here and it says, for instance, vitamin K, you got 208%, folate, 375%, to the person that's worried about those percentages, what do you say that that is okay? How is that okay, and how do you calm their nerves on something like that?

I mean, really, selenium is one that can build up in the body, but a lot of those are not fat-soluble. They're water-soluble, so you pee them out, and a lot of those. Then also the recommended daily allowance is pretty much bog. People need higher dose. I'm just going to say it. They need higher dosages. Honestly, our soil is stripped. An orange has about eight times less vitamin C than it did in our grandparents' time. People don't understand that A lot of their rashes, their brain fog, their mental issues are coming from lack of minerals. They're not real diagnosis.

I love that so much because I, even for many years, did not take minerals as serious as I should. Of course, I bring them up to people along the years. But the older we get, the more we learn, the more experience. But man, the minerals and the deficiencies cause so many problems. You find a problem, and then that's the The reason.

That's it. People don't understand. Like, Pellegras, rashes on the skin can be a vitamin B, a B vitamin deficiency. Scurvy, it was vitamin C. You don't understand how big a deal this is. My personal story for years I was taking binders and sweating, taking binders and sweating, and going to hot yoga. I was so stressed out, and I was eating red meat. But my MCV, and my bloodwork was 106. I needed B vitamins like nobody's business. And then I couldn't absorb anything. And so those minerals saved my life. They reversed my labs in three weeks. So I learned my lesson through a personal story about how important absorption and assimilating minerals in the body is.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So your product line right now, has anything new come out recently? Do you have a newer product out there that you have recently released, and what's on the horizon? Yes.

Our newest product that we is this. These are our Calm strips, and it's Calm AF, aegis formulas, guys. Get your head out of the gutter. So the Calm strips, you open these up, they dissolve on the tongue, almost like a listerine breath strip. And this is a trademark art ingredient called ZenBrin and Zenamite that are from Canalief and Mango. And they have scientific back studies to put you in a Zen state and relax you within 10 to 15 minutes. So if you guys have genes that make you pings, you have trouble breaking adrenaline down, you have trouble sleeping because of racing thoughts. This thing is great. You guys can see me take it here. It's our newest product. We're going to have a lot more strips coming out for histamine, for allergies, maybe some pap tides coming up.

So we got a- Pretty good. We got a Danx replacement here. Is that what you're trying to tell me? Come on, mom.

Natural Danx replacement. Richard, give me all those.

Absolutely. I love the product line. I don't do heavy probos on here, but when I do, it's because something deserves It's really what it serves it. These are top tier, top level. I told you right when I saw them, when we were talking, they grabbed my attention. Yeah, I know. One thing I know is supplements and use and what we really need and what is bullshit and what is bad formulation. I've seen enough to know enough. I want to ask you, because we didn't get into this beforehand, and we brought it up a couple of times here, because you brought up diet. I am one that when I have anybody that I train, and especially pros and people that are wanting to take a bunch of stuff, and I break it down like this. I always tell people I'm looking at three layers, and this is where I really want your opinion. I'm looking at diet, I'm looking at training, and I'm looking at supplementation, whether that's natural supplements, whether that's performance-enhancing drugs. I don't care. Just put it all into one group. I've always preached this, and I stand by it to this day.

When we're talking results and health, 70 to 75% of what you encounter and occur is going to be diet-related. 20 to 25% is going to be you're working out, and 5 to less % is going to be whatever the extra things that you're taking. I'm not talking about things you need that are essential. I'm talking about extra shit. What is your thinking on that? Do you think I'm on to something there or do you think I'm nuts?

No, I think you're on to something. It's definitely more diet and food and how, what, when, what macros you're eating. And when you're eating is really important, especially for women. I will say more so than for women than men, nervous system dysregulation being in fire, fight, and sometimes things like mold, water damage in the home. You can make people... You can eat like a mouse, and it doesn't matter. If the inflammation, if your CRP, your inflammation is off the charts, your blood sugars are dysregulated, good luck. Because the working out and the eating can't outreplace that. But in general, for the general person, yes, it's all diet and not as much in the gym as people think.

Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm a workoutaholic, but you can't outwork a shit diet. You just can't. I see so many people tried to do that, and it's not possible. I hate to break it to everybody, but it's not. You can't do it. Let me ask you this then, since we're on that topic. Look, I'm a nutritionist, so I structure everything person to person, and it's all situational based on so many factors. But let's just talk more generalized here on what you feel. I was one that suffered from lipophobia most of my life, the fear of fats, and just Not practicing what I preach. For me, once I made the dietary changes and embraced fat and actually made it a big percentage of my diet where it's like 40 protein, 40 fat, 15 to 20% carb. Sometimes I go about 42 2% each protein fat. Everything's changed for me for so much of the better. I'm a big proponent of animal proteins, fats. I'm not scared of carbs, but I believe that on the lower end, under 100 grams is generally where I like to keep it high protein is of the most importance in my view.

What's your stance on diet? I'm curious.

I agree with you. When I started counting my macros, it was really enlightening because you can do fat and you can do carbs, but you can't do them together because that's where people push their edge. You have to choose one. Fat helps you absorb things better. It helps you absorb your vitamins and minerals better. I think that you're really on to something. I get up, I try to have 20-30 grams of protein within an hour of waking up. There you go. Within an hour, you don't need to drink coffee and sit and stretch out your metabolism until all of a sudden the coffee ends and you're starving and you're stuffing your face at 10: 00 AM. This is what everyone I talk to, I want my patients do this. That's why I feel like I have to say it here. Then people will starve themselves all day long until the end of the day, and they'll have a feast, right? They'll just snack starting at 07: 00 PM all night long.

Yeah. It's a carb feast normally.

Yeah. If it was protein, it would be better. But I tell people, you really need 20 to 30 grams of protein at least each meal. You really need to not be starving yourself and drinking coffee throughout the day to do so. You really need to be careful as a woman. Intermitted fasting is a wonderful thing, but you have to be careful as a woman that you're regulated enough in a safe enough place to do that. I'm a proponent all day long in the right scenario.

Yes. Just so you know, for me personally, and I don't structure everybody like this, but when I get up within about 45 minutes, I do the higher protein, but it's simply just full fat Greek yogurt with the protein powder that I had mixed in it because I can't eat a lot in the morning, but that is so sufficient. Right before I go for a morning walk, that's how I do it. Then I have coffee after two hours of being up. I don't eat my first full meal till about three and a half to four hours of being up, but it's very, very protein fat heavy. That's the one meal where I have a little bit more carb because I have one piece of bread with a ton of avocado and eggs and cooked in butter. Then it progressively gets, yes, and it's just lower carb then and just heavier fats and proteins the rest of the way through, whether it's salmon or ground beef. I do mix in heavy amounts of lean chicken when I do a little bit lower fat day, but it has transitioned and worked into this just insanely beautiful diet pattern.

You know what this studies what fat does and keto does, too. I mean, not that you're doing a full keto diet, but you're heavy on the fats and the protein, which is great. We know from the keto diet, this is the diet of the brain. If you want to stop epilepsy and seizures, do a keto diet.

Yeah. Like I said, I'm not terrified of carbs, but what I found is that you keep it on the lower side and really work on doing the other two and establishing the other two as your primaries, it really makes drastic changes. It really does. Now, your LDL can go up a little bit. It will. But your HDL, your triglycerides, everything else, the other markers go down. Or your HDL goes up, but your triglycerides go down. I'm sorry. And other markers will drastically improve. Then that poses the question I want to ask you. Let's say LDL is 100 or 120, where that's looked at like that statin level for doctors. But let's say that's on a person that's got beautiful blood markers, high fat diet. What do you say to that?

I'm going to tell you what I say every day when I'm reading that lab, because I get that lab in my bloodwork. For everyone that comes in the clinic, they get a big, huge bloodwork panel, and inflammatory laps, full iron, full thyroid, full cholesterol panel. I look at it every day, and I tell people, if your LDL is 120 and above, that's what I consider high. Because if you look at the statistics, they've lowered the reference ranges of LDL, all the different cholesterol panels. They've lowered that range throughout the years, throughout the decade.

Let's say, what's your ideal range then for LDL and total cholesterol and HDL?

I don't consider total high until about LDL high till 120. The HDL, I really like to be above 50 or 60, really, for a good cluster off. Then it's important. The really the most important markers are APOA, APOB, which are the real ones that are smaller that can oxidize in the plaques, and it caused plaques within the vessels easier. That's what we really want to pay attention to.

Yes. Lp little A, APOB, particle sizes, things that don't get tested. That's all I want to look at for the most part. Of course, I want to see all of the numbers, but Those are the ones I really focus on that tell me the most. That's right, exactly.

It really matters the ratios things are in. You can't just look at a single marker. You need to look at the whole panel and look at the liver enzymes and the bilirary tree and how liver makes the cholesterol, then turn all into all the sex hormones, estrogen, progesterine, testosterone. So if I see a real bad cholesterol panel that's skewed, I know their hormones are coming to be skewed as well.

Right. 100 %. So then you do full blood panel analysis, you do basically everything in terms of what you do at your practice, or do you have a specific specialty that people seek you out for?

Yes. I'm known as the mold doctor, so I do a lot of water damage homes, a lot of mold, mistreat illnesses in general, which end up being things like Lyme disease, karyocytes as co-infections, activated Epstein-Bard virus or other viruses, mold, as I mentioned, and then environmental toxicities. I do a lot of breast implant illness. I do a lot of infected root canals that are silent within the body that cause autoimmunity, heart issues, things like that. Because all of them, just about all of them, fell after about 8-10 years. I consider myself sure it calms in people's health when there's mystery symptoms that other people can't figure out.

Talk to me about the root canal thing, because I've had like 30, and I... Yeah.

It's been around backwards. Are you serious?

Yeah. It's been a fear of mine, and I know I've talked to some other people about how severe those can be. Talk about what can happen in with those and what long term needs to be concerned about with root canals.

It's the only place we live. We lead dead to chronic tissue. I think it's okay. They often leave a periodontal ligament, which tells the body that there's not a problem there. But each tooth has thousands of porous channels where bacteria can hide. Each tooth has a nerve that runs from the tooth up in the cranial canal that viruses and parasites can traverse, causing a lot of different cranial pathogenic invasions. We all know that when you go to the cardiologist, if you're going to have your teeth worked on, if you have anything wrong with your bowels, they give you an antibiotic before you get your until the cause. You can spray embolic bacteria from the teeth and the gums into the body systemically, actually. So in the carditis that way. And so the teeth are such a big deal. Each tooth represents a whole organ system through the meridian channel from Chinese medicine. So for example, I saw someone yesterday who had a root canal right on these front teeth, who is suffering with erectile dysfunction, and that's the same meridian as the sex organs. Oftentimes, I'll take for example, my business partner. He'd seen 30 different doctors, had brain fog fatigue, he had a traumatic accident as a child, had two root canals here in the front two teeth.

He had a cone beam scan, which is what I suggest anyone What they're looking for with root canals to have is a 3D cone beam scan. They can evaluate the integrity of the root canals. Oftentimes, there'll be a pocket of simmering infection at the top that looks translucent, and only a trained eye can see it on these scans because regular dentists don't think anything's wrong with root canals. You have to have a holistic or biological dentist read it who has a trained eye to look at these scans. When we pulled these out from my business partner, because the 3D cone beam scan was actually negative, but I kept it said, I've done everything for you. I've detoxed you. This is the last thing left. When they pulled it out, it was black with cyst on it. It smelled like death. I've had so many people tell me the same story, hundreds of my patients. And literally their brain fog, their autoimmunity, their joint pains, their infertility problems go away after they remove this root canal that then has like, simmering pockets of an infection and pus that come out when they pull it out. And it's very obvious.

If there's any pain, discoloration, weird taste in your mouth, anything like that, there's a problem with the root canal. If you trace back your history and most of your symptoms started right when that root canal started or after the root canal, you have to consider it.

Wow. Okay. Good to know. Now, I'm going to have to talk to you off air about this then. Yeah, we're friends now.

You have my number. Yeah.

Anything else in mystery land that is common that people would overlook for you that is something that you just... If I'm an everyday person that you would never even think of that is something that causes a lot of problems and that you They come in you, you go, Oh, yeah, I already know what that is. It's something we would never know.

All the time. I mean, the teeth is a big one. Root canal is mercury fillings. Breast implants are another one. Any titanium in the body can cause rheumatoid arthritis. There's a new study with five titanium There's something outrageous, like 20, 25% increase in rheumatoid arthritis. Really, parasites are a big one, too, to be honest with you. People tell me, Oh, I feel better when I leave my house. I must be on vacation. I'll always find water damage in their house. They have a brand new house, a million dollar castle. It doesn't matter. I'll still find mold and water damage behind the walls because their body is telling me there's a problem. With parasites, if you grind your teeth at night, you have intermittenorexal itching, you have a dairy sensitivity, you're worse with insomnia, and anxiety around the full moons, which mirrors their life cycles, that is parasitic in nature for me. So there's a lot of different symptoms that you can tease out here with people. And usually it's because there's a foreign body. Something's been ripped out of the body that didn't need to be, that the body needed. There's a foreign object in the body that shouldn't be there, or there's something in their local environment they are constantly exposed to that's keeping them sick.

Wow. Okay. There's a lot, a lot, a lot here that people just would never be aware of. I love being able to talk about this. I know we're late, and I'm sorry, but there's just so many good things. Tell people how they can hire you, or follow you, or find you. Give us the break down here. I'll link it in the description, but let's talk about how we can get with you for help.

For sure. I always say there are levels to working with me or not. If you guys want to go the most affordable route, I got a lot of free information on social media. I educate a lot there. If you guys do your due diligence, you can learn a lot from my Instagram account, which is dr. Jess. Md. I'm also on YouTube, Dr. Jessica Petras. If you guys want to actually learn or do it yourself, I have a wellness plus It's Dr. Jess. Com platform where it's all my protocols are put on that platform, videos, do it yourself. If you'd still rather work one on one with me, that's also an option. I'm booking out till January, but it's drjess. Health. I have a whole team that has been training my protocols there. We have packages, so five or eight-month packages for anyone interested.

Awesome. I appreciate the time, the information, the conversation, and working through technical problems and scheduling and all of it. We were going to make this one work, and I'm so glad that we kept it determined on it because this was gold in every way that you can imagine it to be. Oh, thanks.

I really hope that people listen to this and they thought, They think, Gosh, that's the answer I've been looking for. There's hope for me yet. That's my goal, is when people hear this, they have some hope that their body is not hailing them. It's actually really smart and alerting them to something that we are smart enough to figure out, right?

Absolutely. Well, thank you again for your time, your efforts, and the conversation. We may have to do a part two on this because I think that we didn't get to a fraction of things that we probably could have, but this was really good. I, once again, like I said, thank you for your time. We will put this out there and help as many people as possible.

Thank you so much for having me, Dylan. I'm really honored. Thanks for hoping to get the mission out.

Absolutely. All right, everybody. Well, that wraps up another one. Stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Jameli and Dr. Jess signing off.