Transcript of The Country Star, Tyler Filmore, Who Refused to Quit New

I've seen you say you're the country artist that's almost made it. Writing for Pitbull, doing songs with him or on his record label. How did it happen?

Shout out to Barefoot Country Music Fest. It was me, Pitbull, and Blake Shelton.

Not a bad lineup.

I just played that USA song for the first time and I literally like was running off stage. Someone on Pitbull's team was there, shot a video of me performing. I was like, one of Pitbull's managers like, "Whoa, whoa." I'm like, "No way. I don't believe you." 3 days later I got like a text from Pit and the next thing you know, like I got Pitnapped on the jet for like 7 days.

What up guys, we're back here in Nashville yet again at Nashville Creative Spaces at Brand Builders, about to give you another amazing interview. I have my boy Tyler Fillmore with me, Fillmore Music, from Missouri, and now he's a country star. Just got done collabing with Pitbull. He's writing for him and he's also been signed to Pitbull's record label, so this interview right here, you're going to be seeing this guy headlining all over the United States very, very shortly. And you get to meet him here first. So welcome to the show, homie.

Man, thank you so much for having me.

Dude, it's so cool, man. Like 2 years of, you know, being friends from afar.

Yeah.

You know, it's so funny because like everybody bashes social media. My wife especially hates it. I'm like, yo, I guess where I meet everybody, that's how we built this platform. It is. And And, you know, um, it's been really cool to see your journey and, you know, to also see you become a father. Oh man, not once but twice. So dude, like, I'm just super excited to have you here.

I'm happy to be here, man. And honestly, like, same thing, like, watching all everything that you're doing, like, this is such an honor to be on here. I'm like super pumped. And, uh, the whole social media thing, it's like a— it's definitely a love-hate thing for me at least.

Yeah.

And I— but I— that's where we meet a lot of people, and that's like— it's just such a part of the job. Like, when I started doing music, like that wasn't the biggest part of the job. And then, you know, as the years progress and COVID hits and TikTok and things, it's like the game changes, music changes because of that platform. It's been a wild ride, but I'm just glad that connected us, you know.

Dude, that's crazy, isn't it, man? But no, you're right, man. It's, um, you know, the game changes. And, and COVID especially, you know, that's when I started the show, not because I was like, okay, everybody else is doing it, but there's this pull, this this burning passion to do something different, to do something bigger.

Oh yeah.

And, you know, I've never gone viral. I've never had any of that crap. But I can tell you something. I have really built something along with my team now that I'm very comfortable with and that I feel like every interview we have brings so much value to the audience, you know? And that's why I'm super excited to tell your story. But I want to start at the humble beginnings, man. Ozarks, Middle America. Now you're in Nashville and the audience wants to know what people have been through and how they've overcome the adversity through determination and discipline. That's what we do here, man.

I love it. No, I love telling that story. And it is a hustle, man.

I do it.

All of it. I mean, life is.

Yeah, no matter what you do, right?

Yeah.

No matter what you do, there's going to be problems. There's going to be adversity. And it's like you get to decide if you buckle. Yeah, which is okay to buckle a little bit, but don't break. Don't break, you know, keep going. Um, so walk us through, you know, you went to, uh, Mizzou.

Yes sir, right?

Go SEC!

M-I-Z!

Oh man, Mizzou's great. I went there about a year and a half, 2 years ago. It was the coldest I've ever been in my fucking life. Uh, my toes are still frozen. I went to watch, um, a baseball player that I used to work with, Jackson Beeman, and, and yeah, man, like he went off that weekend. It was beautiful, but it was literally, I think, 20 degrees. And up there on Turner Field, I think that's what it's called, it's on a hill.

Yeah.

And it's windier and it's cold. So I don't know how you dealt with that.

It was, you know, Missouri's got every type of weather, but yeah, and I grew up in Missouri and Wildwood. But yeah, I remember there were some times like leaving my fraternity house, like there was like we, like there were some winters, and I don't know if it's as bad now, you know, climate, there's so much that's changed. Um, But years ago, uh, like, there were times where, like, the mounds— and we're in Missouri, and, like, you think it'd be, like, a Minnesota thing— there were mounds of snow, like, higher than my head. And you're walking to class on the sidewalk, you're like, dude, what is happening? Yeah, so we had some crazy winters for sure.

And you ain't short. You're like, what, 6'2", 6'3"?

I'm 6'1". Are you almost 6'1"?

Yeah. I mean, dude, you look taller than that.

I appreciate it. I mean, I really do hunch. Yeah, I gotta work on that.

Don't we all? It's like, I'm sitting here trying to, like, this posture, you know?

Like, I'm holding my kid, I'm like, this is not getting any better.

Oh, dude, funny, funny thing about that like you can go lift weights, right? And it's like, that's, that's bearable. But when you're holding a baby that won't sleep and you're walking around trying to give your wife some time, how bad do your shoulder blades hurt?

Yeah, it just, it just— now you get almost— I used to say I had like, I didn't know if it was golf elbow or dad elbow.

Yeah, dad elbow, man. Dad elbow.

And I'd be like, yo, I can't believe I'm complaining about this, but like, I would like, I like be on stage like playing guitar and I'm like, yo, like what happened? I was like Father injury, bro. Like, yeah, I was like, it's just so like, you just get so used to it. I need to switch arms, dude.

It's crazy. Like, like, to your point, like, when you're carrying a baby, like, it, it, it does burn.

Yeah, yeah.

Especially if you can't get them to sleep. So, um, okay, so let's go through the beginning. You know, you got into music, I believe it was in college, right?

Yeah, uh, well, yeah, I kind of high school, I was always in music. I was in choir, and but I was really a jock, and I was trying to, you know, I wanted to do sports after high school. Um, but then ended up, you know, placing in state singing and getting a vocal performance scholarship to Mizzou. And then, you know, the rest is kind of history. I decided not to play baseball and go up to Mizzou and chase that. And, um, you know, got a business degree as well. And kind of next thing you know, finished college, went straight to Nashville. I always wanted to go straight to Nashville. Like, it was like in high school when I knew I was going to do music. And then I had a fun 4 years in college, so I'm glad I did it.

But yeah, dude, it was nice to see, like, when I did some more background diving in, because I know your music obviously, but I was like, I wanted to know Tyler, you know? I wanted to know what the journey was. I didn't know that you played baseball though.

Yeah, no, I've played a bunch of sports.

What position?

Oh, center field.

Oh wow, really? I was a catcher. Oh yeah, dude.

Damn, man, crazy.

I played at LSU, so I played in the SEC. And dang, crazy, bro.

That's awesome.

Crazy. And I thought that was going to be my path, right? And, and it turned out like I get to sit in chairs and talk to badasses like you.

All right, right back.

What a dream, dude.

So I was like, I didn't play at LSU. That's amazing, dude.

I was telling my boy Chris here, um, that I feel like I'm in the big leagues. Like, I feel like this right here is my big leagues. And, you know, it's a lot like you, you know. I don't feel we've hit our— I know we haven't hit our peak yet, and that's always hard to deal with, man. You know, it's like, you know what you have inside you. How do you really filter that in your own mind? Because I am positive that you think and truly believe in every fiber of your body that you should be way up here now.

Yeah.

Yeah. How do you, how do you work through that, man?

Uh, it's just, it's such a grind, and I want to get to be like the biggest household name, and it just feels like, look, like anything else, there's a lot of politics involved in, in any industry that you're in, whether it was baseball, anything. Like when you're a catcher at LSU, there's politics involved in every— any path you take, obviously. And, uh, you know, the music industry is a very, very hard industry.

Cutthroat, man.

And it's, it's, you know, sometimes it's bless your heart to your face, it's not real. And there's a lot of, like, there's a lot of fake and a lot of BS you gotta kind of swim through. Um, I just always try to stay, like, true to myself and just know that, like, I don't take no for an answer. Never really have. I am, you know, I am first-generation Hispanic. I'm 50% Hispanic. I think I do have a little bit of that, you know, that, uh, that fire in me, you know, to kind of— I definitely see there's a Hispanic side to me that's like, yo, I'm gonna get this, like, no one can tell me no kind of thing. I get that from my mom. But, um, yeah, to, to kind of be where I'm at today, um, there's just different choices that I made, um, during my career, and it was more about betting on myself than it was on anybody else. But sometimes when you do that, um, What's 100% of nothing? You know, it's nothing. So sometimes I didn't give up percentages of things and I really just kept re-betting on myself and reinvesting in myself.

And it's made me very sustainable in life and in a way better position than a lot of people that took the wrong risk. But some other people that took, you know, a lot of money from other people and a lot of things like that, and then it didn't— they didn't strike lightning again. You know, now they're not in the— they don't have a career anymore. And I've been doing this, you know, I've been doing this for, you know, I've been in Nashville 13 years, almost 14, and, um, I've never had a real job. And, uh, so, you know, like, it's, it's amazing. I'm a songwriter, I'm an artist, uh, you know, I do everything I possibly can, uh, in music. And, uh, from the house, you know, how the biggest I want to be, like, I'm working with the biggest artist in the world, uh, with Pitbull, and he's like a mentor, and it's really helped elevate to where I want to get to. Um, it helps me dance between genres a little bit too. That's so dope, dude. I'm a redneck from Missouri, but I'm Hispanic, and I grew up with a pop station, a country station.

I'm just kind of putting everything out there. I'm exactly who I am, and that's why the album was called Atypical. But, you know, before we dive into all that, it's like really just honestly, like, I think mentally every day it's just like I can't live through comparison, and I make sure that like I have my focus goals and I have a good support team around me, and I just literally just try to stay laser focused on that. And, uh, the creativity part in my life is So fun. And I feel like that is what really drives me. It's like coming up with song ideas constantly and just thinking about music and like, you know, I have a studio session after this and it's like just every second of every day I'm thinking about music and I just know where I'm supposed to be and I know I'm going to get there to the top. You know, I feel like I'm in the middle somewhere, but I'm going to get there.

Yeah, I think you're middle, but you're above middle, man. I think, I think we're, we're smelling it.

Yeah, smelling it.

We're at the home stretch. So what I'm hearing is overnight success. Yeah, shit, right? What I'm hearing is authenticity.

100%, yes. And I think there's a lot of— there's a lot of, uh, there's, there's a lot of, uh, authenticity lacking in the music industry. Um, I think there's a lot of people— it's just when you kind of pull the curtain back, I think there's a lot of— there's a lot of fake made people. Um, and that can be a thing, and I don't, I don't think that's wrong. I just think that that's the life you end up having to live.

That's not your path, right? It's so funny because like in the podcast industry, I think with anything, there's a lot of fake made people taking the elevator to success. And you always see the ones that have a lot of capital behind them. They blow up really quickly, but then you find it's very empty, you know? So like, I always love the fact that, hey, I'm choosing a lane, right? No one else is doing it how we're doing it, right? Most people are going to sit there and, you know, rapid-fire questions, move on to the next one. I'm bringing out the soul in my guests to give to the audience so they can learn. And there might be other people doing that. I don't want to, you know, sound like I'm altruistic or I'm the only one, but I listen to a lot of shows because I study.

Yeah, right.

I study. Nothing is done without any type of preparation. But we're also unscripted. Right? We, we know— I, I know where I want to go with conversations, and I always also lean on my intuition and my, and my talents to bring out the best conversation, right? So it's like the authenticity part of it, you know. Could I be further along if I was rage baiting people and clickbaiting people? Probably, yeah. But what's the cost of that?

I don't know. I see a lot of people that, uh, rage bait and get after people and somehow they're still living at the top. And there's not really a lot of— and sometimes I just wonder, I'm like, how do you sustain that? And some people, sometimes they do, which is crazy.

You know who's the best at it? The Paul brothers.

Oh yeah, they're amazing.

They're so smart, dude.

They are so smart.

Like, they're so good.

I watch all their stuff. I watch their show. Like, they're genius.

Paul American, you watch that?

I watched it.

Yeah, I need to watch that. Uh, Koei Red told me about that show last night.

I thought it was good.

Like, I heard it's good.

And honestly, like, everything, like I see what they're doing, but it's also just like, it's very entertaining and they're very smart.

Like, they're the— I mean, you look back at— I don't know how old you are, but I'm 47.

I'm 37.

Okay, so, um, back in the day when Tyson and Holyfield and all those fighters, Lennox Lewis— I mean, you got Don King, like, he was the king. He was the— no pun intended, but he was the king of promoter.

Oh yeah.

That now it's— dude, it's, it's the Paul brothers. I mean, like, if you even look at like what they did with Tom Brady I smelled that a mile away.

That was amazing.

I was like, okay, cool. So they're going to do all this, they're going to promote the flag football thing, and then Gronk's going to get pissed off and then they're going to fight, right? And that— and then they announced, you know, and I know Gronk, right? Because he's been on the show. I was like, I messaged him like, hey dude, get it done, man. But, um, you know, he's awesome. Oh dude, he's great. But I do think the Paul brothers are being their authentic selves.

Yeah.

Um, but they just know something that not many other people know. They know the algorithm, they know how to to grab people into the screen and shove them right in the face and then not get off their videos. Um, but I— but again, back to the, the initial point is I don't think they're being disingenuous. No, disingenuous. I think they're being themselves, and I think they understand things that we don't understand. But the one thing that I always hold on to, and I think you're a lot like me in this regard, is like, if we move from being our, our authentic selves we're not going to be happy at anything we achieve because it's not real.

That's how I feel. Yeah, yeah, very well said. That's it. Yeah, I've had a lot of different opportunities to not be my authentic self, uh, and, you know, I've even dabbled in like maybe reaching for something that wasn't fully me and then having to pull back and then find myself again. But that's just a part of learning who you are as an artist. And, uh, you know, what I want my career to look like and what I want to look back on and be proud of Um, but yeah, man, dude, as a father, that is more important than you realize. Yeah, I know, I feel that. And it changed my life 2 years ago, even that.

Let's talk about that a little bit. Get back into some more country stuff. So, you know, your oldest is 21 months.

Yes.

And then your, your newest baby's what, a couple months old?

No, yeah, like 40-something days old.

Yeah, dude, so like a month.

Yeah, like, dude, we're in the NICU for half of that.

Yeah, you told me that. Yeah. How was that for you, man? You and your wife, how did you work through that?

I was more like— she started working at Vanderbilt and I was like, all right, we get a free birth, this is sick. And then, then we go in the NICU and I'm like, this deleted the whole purpose of getting a free birth.

Yeah, it's like, well, come on, man, be much—

how much money we racking up? It's 17 days in here, what are we doing?

Oh man, was the baby early or really early?

Yeah, and actually, uh, the baby dropped like the day my album dropped, basically like midnight of that same day. And I had to— I was playing the House of Blues in Houston and then came through the night and I was going to do a pop-up just for fans that we announced like the week of. And we were going to do these like pop-up unplugged shows that personally just for me, it was just more like I want to supersede the superfans and markets I haven't been to in a long time. I've been in Austin in a second to play, probably since like 2019. Oh damn. And so maybe, yeah. And that was for radio. So like, honestly, like we were on our way to Austin and we had hit— team hit venues, had the band, and I was like, yo, we finished House of Blues, we're going to Austin, we're gonna do a pop-up, we'll do another pop-up in Fort Worth and like move there and then we'll fly back. Like it was all just like on the fly. Teams hitting up the venues like Fillmore. Hell yeah. Like, come in. And like I would do like an acoustic unplugged thing that we had set up.

Ended up doing a couple of them before, before the album launch. But then the other ones all got canceled and rescheduled because my baby was born on, you know, on basically on the release day. So we had to veer to the airport in Austin immediately from Houston because we were on our way. And then I get on the plane and then someone said something like someone on my team said something to, you know, the person on the plane. So now it's a whole ordeal. And everyone's like staring at me the whole flight, and they're like, is he gonna make it to see the birth of his child? It was like a— yeah, real life movie for everyone, I guess. And then like they pause everyone on the plane, I run off the plane. I had my dad like waiting out, uh, in the Nashville airport, jumped in the car, took me straight to the airport. My daughter was born 2 hours later. They had like— they're kind of like trying to hold her off on not being too dilated and like where she was. And like I got there and then it was go time, and then Yeah, it was crazy.

What was— was there anything else going through your mind? Because you obviously knew it was early, right? And it's like, so you're having to rush the airport, oh my God, can't miss it. But then also, was there— was there other worries that you had to work through in those moments?

Yeah, so many worries. I mean, honestly, like, my first kid, like, the birth was not easy, and there was a lot of things that, that were very scary during that. I'm not going to go into all that. Yeah, no, during the birthing process with my wife and everything. So like that was always in the back of my head. And then it kind of started happening again during this birth, and then the baby wasn't like fully breathing with her lungs. And so all of a sudden I was like, here we go. And it was just— it was super, super nerve-wracking the whole time. But yeah, um, but now everyone's healthy. It's amazing. Um, it's such a blessing, and I wouldn't trade it for the world, honestly. It's, it's, uh— and you know, I, I don't know, I think, I think we're done after 2, but I mean, it ain't easy. No, it ain't easy.

You know, it ain't easy, man. It's the biggest blessing in the world, but it's, it's also so damn hard, man. And nobody is honest. You know, we talked about it, you know, when you got here with— go, Chris, back here. Him and his wife are about to have their first. Shout out to the Petersons.

Um, you know, sorry, I was just so blunt. I said two, two words to him when I walked up. I go, hey man, the first three months of that baby's in your life, your life is over. Your life's over. It's the worst experience ever. Because no one just— no one says it. Everyone's like, or we forget. And I get it's such, like I said, a blessing. It's amazing, like, miracle, and it's the best thing ever. But like, your life, especially with the first kid, like, it— and I look, I live a life as an artist, like, you know, like, I'll go out, like, I work all day, I, I go to the studio, I write, I got shows, I'm traveling constantly. Then you're talking to people, like, your social meter is drained at all times, like, doing this. And so then, like, when you get home, like, you need those hours of sleep just to kind of run it back again. And then next thing you know, it's like, well, I can't drink as much. I gotta like, I gotta like—

that's hard for a country artist.

Yeah, hey, come on. And, and, uh, you know, it definitely, it definitely made me less of a degenerate and a better person. But the shell shock of like, just think, no one telling me how bad those 3 months were going to be. And when I say bad, I just mean like a life awakening experience of like Yo, like, they depend on you every waking moment. And like, and then it's just like something switches in your whole life where it's like, I think I'm a whole different human now. I operate my business differently. Um, uh, I've had more success. I've had a growth in success since my child was born. Like, it's honestly like, maybe I wasn't fully doing it right. Maybe that's why it was such a shell shock. Honestly, you don't look like, you know, you're too crazy, so I feel like it's not going to be as much of a shell shock. But maybe you're hiding this from me, but He's not drunk at 10 AM, so yeah, so that's good. That's a good start. I think it'll be okay.

Yeah, he could be.

What's in that bottle, man?

Yeah, he could be on some gummies.

We don't know.

We don't know, man, which is fine.

Yeah, which is great. Yeah, those are, those are great for—

can't do that.

Fatherhood.

You can't do that in Tennessee, man. Yeah, you can.

Oh wow. Yeah, we got THC on draft at the bar.

Really? Oh yeah, that stuff's good, man. The THC seltzers, so good.

I'm a huge fan.

Big fan.

Huge fan.

Big fan.

And that was something I found in fatherhood, and I was like, these are great. Yeah, it chills you out.

Yeah, it still kind of cures anxiety, you know. Yeah, that's the other thing, dude. As a father, I mean, the amount of anxiety that I feel so, so many times— I— you didn't get to meet them, but my, my wife and my youngest was here, um, for yesterday's shows, and they had to fly back because I had to pick up, you know, my, my two oldest from school and, and get them home. And, um, so they're on— they're probably at the airport now. But the amount of anxiety that I feel not traveling with them is insurmountable. Like, I cried leaving the hotel room this morning. Yeah, it's just— it's the, the amount of stress a father feels that we don't talk about. Yeah. And, and, you know, I don't know if it's because men are supposed to be strong and you're not supposed to talk about these things, but bro, the moment I had a child is when I started worrying about a billion different things every day.

Yeah, it's so real.

Yeah, man. Yeah, dude. But dude, congratulations. You're doing it right, man.

Thank you, man.

You know what, man? Like these things, it's like anything, fatherhood and being a parent, for the moms out there too, this is for you. And you have your careers and you have everything going on. And also, well, by the way, sustaining a marriage and a relationship and connection, right? There's adversity in everything and we have to fight through those moments and do the best we can and not worry about the outcome. Right? Like, the gift is in the struggle. The gift is in the struggle with you becoming a new father again, you know, your music, everything. That's what builds you into who you're going to be for when you break that threshold, because it's coming. It's coming. And like, you need to be ready for it, right? And, and all these moments prepare you.

I, I agree. I feel like even the ride to this point from a career aspect, and you say that moment's coming, it's like if it all ended tomorrow, like, I, I feel like I've already accomplished every— I mean, so much of everything that I've ever— like, younger me when I first moved to Nashville 13 years ago would be looking at me like, you did it, you made it, you, you did it. Like, everything you wanted to do, you did it. I mean, I've pretty much played every huge venue across America and in Europe. I've, you know, I've been on most TV shows. I've, I, I feel like I've everything that, you know, maybe, I don't know, it's just weird. I just feel like, I feel like I've accomplished so much, um, and I've, I've broken barriers that, and I have certain accolades that some of the biggest artists in the world don't have.

Wow.

So I feel like I'm at a point where it's like I'd be so proud of what I've done to this point. I had to remind myself that because I'm such a driven person and I still have to fight to not compare myself and everything like that. But, and there's so much politics, and it's just like you have to just understand, like, everyone has an agenda, and you just gotta stay and do what's best for you and just hope that other people will continue to align with you to get you to where, you know, that big moment is. But I feel like even if I was like at Pitbull's level, or when I get there, I still feel like I'm gonna be working towards another level.

It never stops.

I feel like I'm never gonna stop.

It never stops, man. And I'm glad you brought that up because that was one of my questions. If everything ended day, would you be proud?

I'm so proud.

And, and that's something that I struggle with as well.

It took me a long time to say that, but I, I'm telling you, since the kid, like, I, I truly like where I'm at today. I'm like, yeah, I just feel like I'm, I'm so proud. And I, I need to say that out loud more because like sometimes I'm like, I'm so, I'm so critical of myself and trying to make sure I make everyone happy. And I had to learn like, I'm not gonna make everyone happy.

You can't.

I can't be overly loyal anymore because people are now inadvertently, even if they don't mean it, leeching off me and taking stuff and taking my valuable time and not giving back the same energy. And I'm just allowing it to happen.

Dude, I go through that so much, Tyler. I mean, you know, anytime I have someone on that's of any type of level. Oh, "Can you talk to him for me? Can you do?" I'm like, but I worked to get here. I'm just going to give you the keys to the kingdom. But I also love helping people. So it's like a constant.

It is a balance.

Yeah. It's a balance, man. And it's hard, but what I struggle with is what you seem to be, I think you're further ahead than I am in the, if everything ended today, you know, if podcasts were no longer a thing, would I be proud? I would say yes, but I would be like, damn, another almost.

Another almost, man.

Yeah, I mean, think about that.

So many almost in my life, it's crazy.

There's two words right there: another almost. I, I don't know if I can shoulder another almost, you know. And but also I look at what we've created. We've been in rooms with Jay Leno, you, Jana Kramer. Um, I've interviewed William H. Macy, been in a room with Tony freaking Goldwyn, bro. Yeah, from Scandal. Like, other podcasters are looking at this, be like, that's the goal. And then me 3 years ago, you know, or even a year ago, be like, that's my goal. But things shift, right? You're like, okay, myself, like you, I'm a heavy driver. Like, I have to be the best I can possibly be, and I am nowhere close. And, you know, and one question I wanted to ask you, um, because, you know, you say like you, you want that household name. I also want that. Yeah, I crave it. I know why I want it, and I'll get to that, but I want to know why you want it. What is the main underlying variable, the reason why you want that?

I think anything I've ever done, and I think sports kind of ingrained that into you, but, um, I'm a no-quit, like, take no for an answer. Like, I love someone telling me I can't do something.

Put gas in that engine, baby.

Yeah. And so it's just ingrained in me. I don't fully have, like, and like I said, even when I got to that top, I'm probably still gonna be chasing the biggest part of that top, you know, like whatever I could do to be— it's just the grind is so fun to me.

I love that.

And rewarding. And, uh, and especially when I'm doing something that I love, like music and writing and performing, um, and then knowing that, that I'm doing something I'm so passionate about that I love, that's like my favorite thing in the world, you get to do that for a living. And so like if I can like do that at the highest level, I just feel like it doesn't answer, it doesn't solve anything or make my life any better. Like I said, I'd be proud if it all ended tomorrow, but it's like, it just is the competitive drive in me to be the best of the best. And that's like, I think it's just who I am, and I don't know, have a full answer of why. I just, uh, and like I said, when I get there, it's not going to be like a, all right, what do I do now? How I did it? I'm just— I've made it. I'm just gonna keep doing it. Like, I'm just gonna keep doing it and, and keep chasing things that I love musically and um, you know, trying to break barriers that like maybe people don't expect because that's something I love.

And I'm just gonna find new versions of, of things that I haven't tried yet. And, um, because music is so versatile and there's so many paths and so many directions I go and, and can go. And honestly, like, there's not enough years in life for me to accomplish all the things I want to do in music anyway. Like, I'm just gonna do everything I possibly can and then I'm like I said, I'm already proud. So yeah, it's okay.

You know, I look at your music and it's—

it—

every song I listen to makes me feel good.

Oh yeah.

So when I look at you and when you're that household name, because it's coming, you're going to be making people feel good all over the globe. Appreciate it. That's big. That's impact. And for me, you know, when I reach that household name, when I reach that— I'll never be Joe Rogan. I'm gonna be Sean French, right? I'll, you know, I can't be him, I can't be these other big names, but I can execute at the highest level of what I'm capable of. And being that household name, for me, I want to walk in places and people go, holy shit, that's Sean French. Here's why. It's not an ego play for me. It's not a look at me, I'm this, you know, dude that was a salesperson that turned into the one of the biggest podcasters in the world. What it is for me is impact. When I get messages, and I get them daily, bro— this guy reached out to me from New Zealand going through something with his wife. She made a mistake about 4 years ago. He's trying to work through it. It's in New Zealand, and he found me on Spotify and sends me a message and didn't ever think I would write back.

That's what I'm after. Yeah, like that right there. Because— and then when I responded with a voice note, he's like, whoa, like, dude, thank you. I'm like, bro, I'm a human that cares about other humans. I never want to lose that touch, you know. Now granted, as things grow, it's going to be harder for me to do it. But, you know, for me, it's just the impact, man. Like, I want to help people. And if I can reach the top, then I know there's a bunch of people that their lives are improving because of what I'm doing.

Yeah, I love that. I'm stealing that impact. That's great because that's exactly— I feel the same way. That's, that's amazing.

I already, I already knew that's like the underlying variable, right? Um, because you're not a big flashy look at me type of dude. You're like, you know, your music is thoughtful.

Except for my hairstyles.

Your hair is fucking fresh.

They're always weird. They're always weird.

I love it, man.

The hair bun lasted too long. I'm sorry to everybody.

What's that?

The man bun lasted too long. I'm sorry.

Oh yeah, dude. I mean, I like that one, but I like this. You got to— it's— you have like the, the big league haircut right now. Like all the baseball players are doing that haircut. The mullet.

Take it. The dad mullet.

Yeah, dude, it looks good, man. I couldn't pull it off. I can't even grow that much hair.

It's— I mean, dude, it's kind of a hassle.

It looks dope, though. I appreciate it. It's your vibe. You know, it's crazy because, you know, I've seen you say you were— you're the country artist that's almost made it, you know. Do you actually believe that, or do you use that for fuel?

I actually believe that.

Yeah. Yeah.

There's so many circumstances in my life where I'm like— and you watch people pass you. Like I said, the comparison thing, it's like you watch people like— but it's politics, it's money, it's— they're, you know, nothing is what it seems. That's all I'm gonna say. Mm-hmm. In music and what we do as artists and everything like that, everything that you see as an audience member, for 85% of it, you are told to see what you're supposed to see.

It's crazy to me.

Completely controlled.

And I love that because you're doing it differently. You're a disruptor. I love disruptors. I'm a disruptor. I'm not going to do what everybody tells me that I need to do in order to grow. You know, now if it's logical and it makes sense and it's aligned with who I am—

yeah, you're not disrupting just to disrupt. You're disrupting because it's a part of what you're doing and it's truly who you— what— it's your values, what you believe in, and you're not gonna let anyone else come in and change those values or your direction because like this is what makes you who you are. So you're gonna, you're gonna drive that force. And I feel like— yeah, sorry.

Yeah, no, it's great. No, has there been a point— because I, I always talk about this and, and people always say like, oh no, I've never thought about quitting because I just— that's not who I am. I've thought about quitting 100 times, but I just can't because I love it. Has there been ever a point where you're like, I just need to move on from this, man? This is too hard. But then you quickly go, what the fuck am I talking about? I know it's a hard question.

It isn't an active thought. I think I'm crazy. I just, I don't think there's anything else I, I can't— like, I just, there are so many hard things that I've gone through in the music industry and in my career, um, but never was I going— it almost was just like, well, I'm just gonna prove you wrong then.

I love that.

Um, but yeah, I think there's days like, no, yeah, you question everything and there's days where I'm like, yo, like, this life I've built is pretty sweet. Like, I really don't want to leave and play that show. I really don't want to go to this thing, but I know it leads to this thing. And so it's like, I just want to stay home with my family this weekend. And since, you know, since having kids, really, and, and since being with my wife as well, like, there are moments where I'm like, I'd rather just do— I'd rather, you know, but that's not life. Yeah, what am I gonna do? I don't— there's nothing else I'm gonna do.

So it's funny because, like, to your point, like, I feel like this is what I'm really good at, and like, if I don't do this, what am I gonna do? Yeah, I'm not gonna go back to corporate and have someone tell me where to be and what to do and check in on me and do one-on-ones every freaking week. And, you know, no, it, it I'm glad I did it because it built me, right? And I learned how to talk to multiple different types of people, you know. But it, you know, every time I think of like, man, I'm just tired, you know, like my legs are tired and, you know, I've taken too many stairs and I'm just worn out, I just sleep on it, you know. I, and I wake up in the morning and go, tired? That's the, that's the cost of this, man. Like, you get to be tired, you get to be stressed, you get to have adversity and overcome these things. I just think it's super important. So I'm glad to, glad to hear that you, you don't go deep into like, yeah, I'm done, you know, I'm done.

I mean, I see it happen all around me all the time, but I'm not in it, you know. I think I've— I think my whole thing is I'm chasing just being me, and, you know, it's if the goal at the end is impact, like you were saying, like, it's just like, this is what I'm here to do. So it's like there's not really an alternative.

And that's what I love about this conversation, because, you know, the vibe to the audience is so on brand with our show. It's like, okay, this man is staying true to himself. And like, for the audience listening and watching, that's what you need to be. You need to, you need to be true to yourself. You need to stay in line with who you are and what your core values are. I mean, I cannot stress that enough. You can never sell out your core values and your integrity because you might be able to achieve something. But if you do, you have to live with that every day. Like, I cheated, or I, or I was someone different than who I really am.

How?

That's not success. It could look like it.

Oh yeah.

But like, that's not— that doesn't feel good internally, man. You know?

Fuck.

You mentioned, you know, you've been through so many hard points in your music career. What was one of the hardest points for you that you had to overcome?

No, I feel like one of the harder ones in the recent years was, uh, parting ways with my manager, my previous manager. Man's my best friend, best man at my wedding. So making decisions that were just like something I had to do for myself, um, you know, it's just like I have to make career decisions and I have a family and I have things that I have to do to get to where I need to go. Um, I'm a very loyal person and I feel like, uh, I feel like that's been taken advantage of in the past, uh, you know, whether it's previous band people or a label or things like that. So my whole thing is just like, um, yeah, I think that was really tough. I think, uh, I don't know, I think there's been a lot of different breaking points in my career. It was hard to go into a label and then get out of a label. You know, COVID didn't help with stuff. You know, now being signed to Pitbull's record label and finding my path there and everything is just— I found myself in like everything was supposed to happen for a reason.

And I mean, shit, I'm aligned with Mr. Worldwide, man. It's been a— I never thought that in a million years. And like, and that wasn't like a— like, there wasn't like a, a path to get there. It's just things happen in your life that, you know, think your direction changes. It's still going towards the top of the mountain, but how you get there, everyone's path's different. And I think if there was a direct way to do this, everyone would do it.

Yeah, exactly. Maybe, but it might be too much work. They might say, yeah, exactly that.

Exactly.

You know, I want to do all that stuff. I mean, that sounds like work to me. Yeah, you know, it's, um, it's interesting because you mentioned, um, you're aligned and working with Pitbull, and you said that— one of my questions was, um, that I was thinking about, like, did you ever think you were gonna get there? But you already answered it. Um, that, that's pretty damn big, Ty. I mean, I, I don't— that's like me aligning with Joe Rogan. Yeah, because, because, because to me You know, Pitbull is the best of the best. Like, he's a genius. Like, he is so big. And, you know, you're some dude from Missouri, bro, and not— and writing for Pitbull, doing, doing songs with them, or on his record label. Like, what was that path like? How did it happen? Because here's why I asked this question, because there's somebody listening right now that doesn't understand that they are so close and they stop, and all of a sudden they could hit something, like I could hit something, like tomorrow something could happen for, for me and my, in my brand that is on level with what you've done with Pitbull.

So walk me— how did this all transpire?

I mean, to even like say something about what you just said, it's like I feel like there's people will quit or give up because it didn't go like the way they have it in their head, but it's like It's more about like, it's the non-give-up mentality, but also like, I don't think enough people chase, um, something that could turn into something else. I think enough people like, they want it like, okay, I want to play this show and I need this amount of money, and that makes that valuable to me for my time. I think for myself, from day one, um, even becoming one of the biggest independent country artists in in, in the 2000s, um, as I started my career and built that, um, the determination of that was because I didn't— I never said no to anything. Yeah, I, I flew to Buckingham Palace and opened up a show, full band, I think for Canis Smith, for $250. I lost like thousands of dollars.

I love that, dude.

Um, and I, I did so many things like that. I have multiple tours. I can tell you exactly how much money I lost on every single tour. But it was all because it was leading towards something else. And I knew that this opportunity would open another door, or I just prayed that it would. And like, it always has. Every opportunity that I went and took, it opened some random door that led me on another path. But it's the people that don't go take those risks, and that means, like, in my personal opinion, that means you don't want it bad enough. Like, this is it for me. Like, this is all I'll ever do. This is it. And, and whatever path leads me to get— like, that's what's gonna happen. Like, and everyone around me knows that. Like, that's— this is, this is it. So I will take a lot of risks that other people won't because I think that something can turn out from that opportunity. And that's just— with the whole Pitbull situation, um, not a crazy risk. I'd actually opened for him in, um, 2017, I think, or '18. Um, it was me, Pitbull, and Blake Shelton in Pendleton, Oregon.

Um, not a bad lineup.

Yeah, crazy. Uh, but yeah, like, it was— I, I didn't— when you got it, you're like, what is this show? And then like you show up and it was just amazing. Like, everything about that was awesome. I didn't really get to hang or like really sit with, um, with Pitbull at the time. Um, and you know, I'm on my come up and stuff, so I kind of try to stay out of the way, and I'm just— I'm there to My job as an opener is to get the crowd warmed up and do the best live show I possibly can. And then I just move out and I just try to be respectful of every other artist and their time and who they are. If I get the opportunity to hang with them or they want to meet me, cool. But I'm not like, I don't, I'm not gourmy. I don't do any of that shit. So we didn't really connect there. He did FaceTime my mom during the meet and greet, which was hilarious. That's cool. They were talking Spanish and everything like that, which is awesome. But she took all my time, really.

Thanks, Mom.

In that moment. Thanks, Mom. But yeah, then it was years later, I was opening for Blake Shelton again, playing a festival for like 45,000 people. Shout out to Barefoot Country Music Fest in Wildwood, New Jersey. I've played it twice now. This year will be my third time playing it. I'm playing it in June. So super pumped to get back to that festival. And that festival has a very special place in my heart. Shout out to Bob Durkin, great festival. And I literally like was running off stage and I just played that USA song for the first time. I don't know what compelled me to do it. The band knew it. We didn't have it out. It was not released. And I was about to go on the Brett Young tour after that. And so I was like, I want to try this song. And so the rap on the bridge was different. I actually wrote a whole different rap and I had written it a certain way and it was just like a fun live song that I wanted to do and I ran off stage, like, someone on Pitbull's team was there checking out the festival, whether he was going to do that in the future or something like that, because he loves country music.

And he's obviously done festivals that are multi-genre and stuff as well. Um, he's Mr. Worldwide. So someone that was checking him out shot a video of me performing. I was like, hey, like, I was like, one of Pitbull's managers, like, blah blah. I'm like, I'm like, no way, I don't believe you. I go on the tour bus and the next thing you know, like, they come up and I had a bunch of songs in Spanish actually at the time because I was translating some other stuff in Spanish. My mom was coming to the studio with me and making sure I didn't sound too gringo in my accent. So I was just like, oh, I'll play this stuff for you and like whatever. And then it's like 3 days later I got like a text, um, or an email from, from Pit and it was like, I'd appreciate the opportunity to be on that USA song because he had heard the video got sent to him and everything and then sent it over, blah blah. And then the rest is kind of history. I, you know, then it was like, then it was like, um, I don't even know if you fully know, I don't know if he knows this, but, um, then it was like, hey, like, let's get together and talk about like releasing the song and stuff.

And so he's on tour all the time and, um, he's like, can you be in, in, uh, Bentonville, Arkansas like tomorrow or something? And, um, I was like, of course, sure. Like looking at my schedule, I'm like I don't even know. So like, I like looked at my wife and I was like, let's get in the car and go. And so call my team up and they're like, what are you doing? I'm like, that didn't make any sense to anyone. I'm like, I'm gonna go meet Pitbull. And why? Someone just— he just asked me to meet him. Like, yeah, you go. It'd be in Egypt. I'm gonna figure out how to get there.

Yeah, 1000%, whatever. On top of a freaking pyramid.

Yeah, get out of here. I'm gonna get there. And so I don't even know if he like realized— well, I think he realized it afterwards, but I, I, you know, we just jumped in my wife's car um, and we, you know, I drove like 9 hours and got there and got to watch him perform and meet him and hang out in person. And then next thing you know, like, um, like he was like, yo, like, you know, we stayed and then stayed there the next night. And then I, um, we're trying to figure out what we want to do the next night. We're having dinner talking about like the song and everything, just getting to know each other. It was awesome. And then It's like, what do you want to do tonight? I'm like, well, Jason Aldean and all them are playing this Walmart Amphitheater tonight, and like Hardy and everyone, and so, and DJ Silver and everyone. And so I literally like sent the text to my country family. I was like, I'm gonna show up like backstage, I got like a couple cars with me, and they're like, yeah, come on. So I roll up and like Jason Aldean walks up and B.O.C. with Live Nation and Who else?

Uh, Hardy, and everyone's there, and they like walk up backstage, and I'm like, oh yeah, I brought Pitbull, by the way. Yeah. And so, oh man, Pitbull ends up like bartending, uh, in between the busses, like Jason Aldean's bar and stuff.

He was bartending?

He just walks in, starts bartending, like doing the thing.

Dope dude, man.

It was, yeah, he was, it was amazing. And he's like always like, he's serving people, but he's like, a few more, he's checking on me. I'm like, yeah, I'm like, what is this going on? And so, yeah, he's absolutely the best. And so that was a great hang. And then he, you know, went up to us like as we're getting ready to leave there and he's like, what do you got going on tomorrow? Like my wife had to get back to— she works at the hospital and she's like, oh, got to get back. And kind of looked at— well, she kind of looked at us and was like, but, you know, Tyler can go with you. And so I got pitnapped on, on the jet for like 7 days. I'm like, pitnapped, pitnapped, pitnapped, baby. Coin the term. And, you know, that's a good experience. That's the best thing.

Yeah.

It's just funny to say it that way, but, um, no, it's— and, and just became fast friends and, uh, like a mentor to me and, um, has helped shape my career in the last 4 years and has been nothing but the absolute best. And, uh, so I'm just thankful, and anything he needs or anything I can be a part of, uh, it's the first thing that I will do. It takes all priority because I believe in him so much and he believes in me so much, and I, I don't want to ever let him down. He's, he's, uh He is what you see. And it's— I think it's very rare these days that you meet someone that is exactly who they portray themselves to be. And that's what I aspire to do. And so being—

same, man.

And learning from the best, um, I think is only going to help me be the best version of myself. And I still got a lot to learn, and I'm not perfect in any way, um, and I've made a lot of mistakes even in the last 4 years. But, um, he's been nothing but, uh, supportive and helpful.

So That's beautiful, man. The one thing that I want the audience to realize out of this, and then, you know, back to that day at the festival, right? You're just doing your deal, you're doing your craft, you are executing what you know how to do, and you want to do it the best way possible. So if you're present in the moment and you give your best performance, you record the best show you can, you don't know who's watching.

Yeah.

And look what happened. So for you guys listening and watching, show the fuck up.

Always show up. Show out. Yeah. And don't listen to anybody. Like, if someone tells you it's not a good idea but your gut is telling you like, this could turn into something, okay, what else do you have going on? Like, let's just say it's tomorrow and someone's like, hey, there's this opportunity, it pays $0, you're actually going to lose money, but If you show up, there's an audience of people like that potentially could see it, that could turn into something.

Mm-hmm.

And you sit there and you have no obligations the next day, and then you don't take that opportunity. I don't know what to tell you.

You know, it's interesting because I can relate to this 110%. I lose money every time I travel. I lost it for Fashion Week when I walked. I'm losing it now. I lost it in New York. It. I lost it in LA when we traveled to do Jay Leno. I lost money doing that. I paid it. No brand paid for a sponsorship. Nobody paid for anything. It was our hard-earned dollars to the show that we paid for. But you know what's crazy is when I think of like, yeah, I lost or I spent money, it cost me money. But the brand building is worth everything. And if people are so proud that they can't go and do something for free, they'll never make it. In June, I'm speaking at the biohacking— World Biohacking Conference in New York for $0. You know, I was like, hey, maybe we can get a hotel to, to give me a stay. Maybe we can get, you know, um, uh, a flight taken care of. But, you know, so it doesn't cost me that. But, you know, the thing is, man, it is such a beautiful point because, yeah, you may be losing that money value, right?

But what you're gaining is so much bigger. And people do not understand that. You know, soon you're not even going to have to ask those questions. It's going to be, hey, Shawn, we need you to come here, right? I need you to speak and we have 50 Gs budgeted for you. Will that work? Yeah, man, that'll work.

Yeah, it'll work.

Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be nice.

Love it.

Well, you know, hey, maybe we can get a hotel. Yeah, don't worry about the hotel.

Speak for money.

Yeah, it's like, I'll speak for much less than that. I speak for free, you know? Like, you know, it's— but, but it's—

who's gonna be there?

Yeah, who's, who's coming, you know? But that's the beautiful part, like, you don't know who's going to be there. You don't— like, that's the thing about your story, dude. As you're talking about Pitbull, you did not know that that manager or representation was in that crowd So if we stay present and if we stay true and we just execute our craft, we don't know. We have no idea. I don't know who's going to listen to this show. Like, you may send it to somebody massive and they'll be like, yo, I want to meet this guy. And I'm like, holy shit, what just happened? What just happened in my life that this is a thing now? And, and so like, the audience needs to understand that because that's what this show is all about. That's what the themes are, is like, yo, keep going when you feel like you can't because you don't know when it's going to hit. And that's also the sexy part about it, right?

It's like, yeah, you know, the unknown, man. I mean, it's scary, but it's fun. There's too many people playing checkers when they need to play chess.

Oh, come on, dude.

There's just a lot of like— it's just like people need to change their mindset, but there's a lot of risk. It's not for everybody.

Yeah.

And it is stressful. It is exhausting and it is scary as hell. But I don't know what it is. Maybe it's us being athletes, you know, that I truly believe that that ingrains a, a skill in you, you know, and then like, you know, like the cost-benefit analysis of everything. It's just like I'm always ready to just take a risk on the cost and hope for the benefit.

You know, so funny because like that's the business degree talking, right? And I love— no, I love it, dude. It's great. It's true. You know, my wife is always like, no, you're worth more. I'm like, but baby, listen, you gotta look at this. Look at everything that's building. Soon we won't have to ask. Yeah, it'll just be like, here. That's what we're working towards.

Creating that value is priceless.

It's, it's massive, dude. Man, I know you got to get a session to get— yeah, I know you have a session to get to, man. And talk all day. This is— dude, this is fun, man. I feel like I could do like a 2-3 hour show with you.

I know, dude.

So much to talk about.

Floopa.

I know, dude. We're almost at an hour right now and it's just like, it's like bang, you know?

I have to run back another episode.

No, we, dude, 1 billion percent. Like whenever you want, man. I have a feeling, you know, we've made some contact with some representation up here and I think we're going to be up here a lot more.

Okay, sweet.

You know, and I'll do everything out of here and at Nashville Creative Spaces. Yeah, dude, this is—

Good spot. Absolutely gorgeous.

I mean, you want to talk about profession, like a professional place. I, you know, Chris Peterson has been amazing. Rory Vaden has been incredible. And, you know, some of the biggest names in my industry, Rory and Brand Builders, built the backend, built the, you know, the everything about what they were doing. So I have him later today. I'm really excited because we're always going to have like a one-on-one meeting too, because I want him. It's time now. Yeah, right. Because I think that when everybody starts, everybody wants to be seen. But they may not be ready to be seen. And that was the case because years ago, about 5 years ago, I was looking to, you know, hire them to build me. I'm like, what are they going to work with right now? It's like, it's like, good luck, dude. Like, I know you're great, but, but no one's that good to, you know, to build a house out of no material, you know?

Such a good point.

Yeah, man. So it's just, uh, It's been a blessing, man, and this conversation has been so valuable. And I, I always love getting to meet people, like you said, that you've been connected with and just kind of see if they're really about what they're about. And dude, you did not disappoint, man.

Right back at you.

Yeah, thank you, man. It's, uh, you know, we always have to be authentic, and we're crazy, we're nuts, dude. It's exhausting to put yourself out there on social media and in the public and be yourself. And then always show up like that. You know, I think a lot of people struggle with it, but for me it's hard because— not because it's a hard act to do, because I'm just being me, but you get hurt in the process a lot.

100%.

You get— you get taken advantage of. And there's only so much of your social media that can, like, sustain for a long period of time. Yeah, man. One more question for you. You know, this show is about determination and discipline. You know, when I created the show, it was at a point in my life where I felt like I needed to make a change. I was unhappy, and no amount of money would fulfill me. And I just, I started really kind of looking under the hood of, of successful people. And what I found is they, you know, they did what they needed to do no matter how they felt. And so when I built the Determined Society, my, my thought was I have to wake up in a world, or I want to wake up in a world that everybody chases their dreams no matter how they feel emotionally at that time. And this is a question I always ask. I bet, say, about 90% of the time, because I always forget too, because I'm— ADHD is crazy. But what is your definition of determination?

My definition of determination? I think it's just the no-quit attitude. It's just kind of what I've said earlier. I mean, I think that provides, like, if I'm not going to quit, then I'm clearly determined. So it's, it's the never give up. It's the— I, I don't know, it's just whatever has been ingrained in me that is a part of who I am that's not going to change. I think there's a lot of growth in change, but I feel like the determined part of me is not going anywhere because I'm just so competitive. And even though I don't want to live through comparison and stuff, like You still gotta compete every once in a while, you know. I'm looking over like, okay, I got this. I, I— oh yeah, I just beat them out. Okay, we'll get the next thing. But, and that's fun, dude. Competition is fun. Yeah, that's why we do a lot of things in our life too. So, um, it's fun.

Everybody has a target on someone's back. I have mine.

I got one.

Yeah, and we don't have to just— we'll talk about it off camera. You guys don't need to know it because it's for us. Oh yeah, but I mean, it, it's, it's not malicious.

No, but I'm not going to do anything negative. No, I just want them to eventually see where I'm at, and then I just kind of want to smile and walk away.

Exactly, exactly. I love that about you, man. Well, dude, that was a great definition of determination, because what most people don't understand, it's not this loud, sexy thing. It's the— it's the, I don't want to go to the gym, but I'm gonna put my shoes on anyway and see if I can walk out the door. Yeah, you know, I don't want to write this song but maybe you just write 2 sentences. You know, it's the ability to continue to move forward even if you're 100% that day is about 25%. Yeah, you have to still do something, man. So thank you so much, man.

Coffee, dude.

Dude, this is great coffee.

Cheers, man. Appreciate you.

Oh man, thank you so much, dude. Looking forward to doing more with you. And we still got— dude, we got to get Forrester moving, man. We got to figure out what we're going to do.

I agree.

I mean, let's go. I think like a determination fest.

I love this.

Oh man, we could do something. Would be fun.

Agreed. We're going to— yeah, we'll talk about that. Let's get some things rolling.

Yeah. For the audience, we've been side texting and talking on the phone about this.

We got a couple ideas. It's going to be sick.

Yeah, it's going to be nuts. And we'll definitely let you know when it's going to happen. But for the audience, share the show with somebody you know, love and trust. And if you haven't already listened to Tyler's music. It's Fillmore Music, um, 1L, and you, you need to dive into it. You, you need to listen to it. It's great music. Um, if you like hip-hop, you like pop, you like country, then listen to the damn music and support him. Um, very, very proud of him. I've known him for a couple years, and I'm just ecstatic at what he's becoming as a father and in his career. And, uh, so Fillmore Music, guys. My favorite song is Betcha Gonna. That's such—

I love it.

Oh my God, that song is so good, man. Oh, hell yeah, bro. And then don't forget Yeehaw with Pitbull. Yeah, that's a dope song too. If you got children, don't play it around there because Pitbull goes hard. Pitbull goes hard. But, uh, thank you again, guys, for listening. And until next time, stay determined.