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Very curious to get the thoughts from last night from our favorite Spurs correspondent and also our only Spurs correspondent. Michelle Beadle is with us, and I want all of her thoughts, but first I want her reaction to the criticisms in the first hour that Wemby is a dirty a dirty player who pushes off on all his picks to protect his junk and deserves a flagrant one for what he did to Jalen Brunson after elbowing Nas Reid in the face. Your thoughts on Wemby being a dirty player, Michelle, and welcome.

Thank you for having me. If dirty means awesome, yeah, behind that 100%. Also, a room full of dudes angry that another dude protects his junk just feels weird to me, guys. I don't really love that for you. And if you don't like it, do something about it. I don't think he's a dirty player. I think he's learning the game. We're watching a man evolve in real time, ladies and gentlemen, and this is science, and I love every second of it. Also, Josh Hart, flagrant. He could have also been thrown out, so I don't know what we're talking about.

Luke Kornet almost killed him.

Excuse me?

Luke Kornet was a heat-seeking missile on Josh Hart, knowing that he wasn't watching, and completely ran through the— He was trying to stop—

trying to get the—

then stop.

God, New York Knicks fans, could you just whine more? Just cry harder. Let's see if we can cry harder and make this entire thing an absolute abomination. You You guys are up 2-1. What are we even complaining about right now? This is like, this is going to be a tough battle. You can blame a lot of factors on why the Knicks lost last night. I think we all have our theories. I for one love it and hope it all gets repeated in Game 4. I hope James Dolan invites all kinds of fun people to Game 4. Please, please do.

Cornette is like a cruise ship. He doesn't come with brakes. Like he does. The Cornette, when he starts moving, there's no chance that he's going to be able to stop.

Also, Josh Hart was on some bullshit. The ball was, the ball went through the basket. He just wanted to He was trying to go grab a board. He was feeding—

there was no board.

The ball was coming through.

No, it was clear. Like, he started crashing after it went through the cylinder. He was just trying to feed off the audience, and he was doing some bullshit.

Whose side are you on?

Cornette ran through him. I'm on the sports side.

Whose side are you on?

I'm playing both sides.

Sure you are.

Um, how did you feel after the first two games? Because, uh, surely your confidence was shaken.

It was— I've been sulking since Friday. I drank heavily on Saturday, which I don't do. And I thought that was the only way out of how I felt. I was just angry. I was angry at everybody. I was bummed, which means I'm basically a lying hypocrite because I went into this like, guys, whatever happens, it's going to be a great experience. Turns out I do not believe that at all. And going down 0-2 at home made me a worse person. So I feel a little better today. I feel like we have a series. I'm going to go to Game 5. Yeah, I'm just— it's a lot, guys. It takes a— it takes years off of your life when your team is in something like this. I forgot. I forgot what this feels like. I like it, but I hate it. That's, that's where I am today.

Were you confused by the first two games and the fact that Karl-Anthony Towns looked like a better player than Wembenyama in the first two games?

Yeah, I was very confused. I think everybody who's been watching was probably confused by that. KAT is a very interesting dude, man. Like, when he's hot, he's, he's a reminder of how great he actually can be. And then he'll have these other games, you're like, oh yeah, that's the, that's the KAT that everybody rips on all the time. I kind of feel for the guy every once in a while. But to lose both, I think was painful. And obviously we've all ad nauseam discussed the way Game 2 ended and the turnover. And that was just, it was a welcome to the league moment for a very young Wemby. Every great star is going to have it. He should probably sit down and speak with LeBron on what it's like to go from the GOAT to the most hated overnight because that's sort of what happens when you're great. But I hate— I didn't like it. I didn't like losing 2 at home. It's just something about that made the whole thing feel like it was over. And I don't want to walk around with that feeling. So thank goodness for last night and hopefully tomorrow.

Michelle, I missed it. What happened in the end of Game 2?

You know what? Your shirt's stupid and I hate you. So whatever. What was your question?

Well, your shirt's a grandma shirt.

Yeah.

This shirt is fashionable. You don't know anything.

Toy Story ass shirt.

By the way, are we excited about World Cup? When are we gonna do that? Can I be a representative for a nation?

Yeah. What do you got?

She's got Italy.

I don't want—

How are they doing?

Shut up, dude. I don't have Italy for this. We know that how that works. I'll pick one. Let me get back to you on that. Probably like Belgium or something.

So you wanna be our World Cup correspondent on one particular team? Okay. We'll, we'll allow it.

Yeah, but I won't go to any games. I'll just be.

Okay. Let's, let's play the sound for Michelle of Mike Brown after the game complaining about the officiating.

Creating opportunities for fouls to be called, to at least try to even the free throws out. Now, we didn't play good. San Antonio played great. We could have played better. There was a lot of things that we didn't do that we've done— that we did in Game 1 and Game 2. But to go 24 free throw attempts in the second half, that's 48 for the game if you think about it the way that they called that second half, compared to 8. All the shots we took We got fouled 4 times roughly for 8 free throw attempts. Again, I don't complain much. I never thought I'd see that in an NBA Finals game.

It's the most loser energy from a coach in NBA Finals I've ever heard.

It's not— by the way, that was like the equivalent of analytically, like he just threw in analytically. We didn't get enough free throws. I don't love it. I love Mike Brown. It's also weird on the same day that Sam Presti went off for like 100 minutes crying about stuff. Again, cry harder, boys. Like, I don't— this is weird to me. I don't like the energy they're putting out there. It's weird that they're the Spurs are involved in all of the whining in some capacity. I don't know, maybe we're in people's heads. Call it what you want, but there's no— I checked the brochure for basketball. There's no rule that says both teams have to have equal amount of free throws. Like, that's not even a thing. Can we stop doing that? Just stop.

Sazh was wondering if there was a memo that he had missed. I didn't get it. You're saying there is no such memo. There is not a handbook. You're the brochure.

There is a brochure, but it's not in it.

Yeah, it's not in it. There's no asterisk. There's no follow-up to the brochure like an amendment was. No. It's just not a guarantee. I checked it. I've double-checked it. I know my resources now. Yeah, there's nothing about that. So I don't get the complaint, but we will never stop hearing it.

What is that?

Is that the brochure? Oh, it's a sticker book. Oh, sticker book. See, I got you guys.

It's a World Cup sticker book. Is that what it is?

Yeah.

Like, you don't know.

Michelle, what were your observations from last night? What did you think was most interesting about what happened last night? Because I was saying that 3 games in this series have just come down to the last 3 minutes. And Amin's been saying for a while that the Spurs, uh, don't have playoff experience, and usually that shows up, and usually that'll show up in the last 3 minutes.

I, I gotta hate this. I actually agree with him. Wait, oh, gross to do.

Yeah, we clip that and then replay it like 100 times later.

Clip it. I hate it, but he's right. It's right. And I think Game 2 was a really big part of that because let's think about all 3 games. Spurs came out on top very quickly, a lot of points on the board. And that's why I got a little nervous last night. I was like, I've seen this movie before. I don't love this. But the difference was there was no letting up. I think Steph Castle is just an absolute gift, and I'm so happy he wears the uniform of the team I love. And he's right. I mean, if Game 2, those last 3 minutes isn't a pretty telling story on experience or lack thereof, and I hate to do that because I don't want to do that to them. But it's— they don't have any. I mean, this is— they're having it in real time. And I think last night they sort of— they didn't let go of the rope. And it was— I mean, you can't get a more hostile environment. Like, that was a crazy scene in New York City yesterday, and I'm sure today will be just as loud. So the experience is being earned slowly but surely.

Whether they have enough time in this series to sort of make it all work together, I don't know yet. But it was nice to see last night.

What was the moment, Michele, as a Spurs fan, that you were most excited about when it happened last night?

I think this, man, I think Steph, the Steph Castle, actually, you know what, no, the De'Aaron Fox shot, because up until that point I think we were all like, and I can vouch for my threads, like, uh, NBA friends threads, people were so mad at De'Aaron Fox, he may make $60 million, like, you know what, that one shot was worth like $58 million as far as I was concerned last night. So that was a big moment as well.

So he still owes two.

He owes two, that's right, he's got time, he's got time. I think a whole game would be good to hear Fox.

Did, uh, did you or have you lost faith or trust in De'Aaron Fox? Because I, you've been watching them all year and I I have been too. I've been telling people this is not De'Aaron Fox. He looks slower and this is not the way he's played since he got there.

No, he has these spurts and I don't, I don't know. I'm sure he's not 100%. Nobody is. Love that cliché. Yeah, I've been, I've been off and on the train. I mean, since the beginning. Look, there were, there were periods of the regular season where the, the idea that you would trade him was very loud, like to the point where I was like, maybe we should trade him. So he does sort of get that. Cat treatment in the hot and cold of it all. But then in Game 7 against OKC, again, I thought he was— I thought he was vital to just kind of calm the room down. I'm not ready to give up on De'Aaron Fox yet. I do feel like optimistically, well, okay, if that doesn't work out, there's a nice young man behind him and Dylan Harper that's ready to go. So we're in good hands in that regard, but not yet, because I do think he's still got experience. I'm going to kill everybody I work with right now.

Which celebrity did they show sitting on celebrity row last night? Came across as the biggest front-runner to you? And why was it DJ Khaled?

Is he not? And correct me if I'm wrong, gentlemen in Miami, is he not Miami? Yes, he was Miami. Yeah. Also, is there anything more obnoxious than a Rolex handoff courtside where seats were costing $500,000? But like, everything about that last night, it made me feel like I lived in Texas right now and I hate the elites. That's how I felt. They were making me feel that. And I don't want to feel that. I want to be an elite, damn it. But last night I was like, Put the celebrities away. I don't care anymore. I get it. Timothée Chalamet loves the Knicks. Like, the only people I want to see more of are Benson and Stabler sitting together courtside. And a matter of fact, Tina Fey and Tracy Morgan. Those two pairings, yes. Everybody else, I don't care enough. We— DJ Khaled, no.

We will talk a lot, and we always talk a lot about offense, but I thought the Spurs won that game last night with defense, even though it was a higher-scoring game than the previous two. And this is why I think it— the Knicks had 18 assists last night, and this is from Knicks film school. This was the fewest assists the Knicks have had this postseason, and they only had fewer assists once this regular season. It was also their lowest assist-to-field-goal ratio both the regular and postseason. Of the 83 total games played so far this playoffs, the winning team has had 18 or fewer assists only 3 times. They were playing iso ball last night. They were forced into iso ball last night. And, uh, you know, Brunson in, in this series is, uh, you know, he's turning the ball over at a rate that— that's, that's substantive.

He's— it was, it was like old school, like the old version of the Knicks where Brunson takes the 25 shots. And it's, it's not virtually impossible to win that way, but it's not what got them those 13 straight wins. So it was very interesting to see. Look, this is kind of what the Spurs tried to figure out and did, I think, a pretty good job with, with SGA. Like, you can't shut them down. They're all-time greats. But it's They're focusing on him and they're frustrating him and they're kind of reverting back to what they used to do. God, you really hate to see it. You know, really hate to see it.

Speaking of things you hate to see, whose side do you take in Trump versus Stephen A. Smith?

Oh my God. It's literally like, would you rather die of asphyxiation or would you rather just be punched in the face till you die? Like, these are horrible. Horrible choices. I've never had— it's a Sophie's Choice of epic proportions. These two gentlemen calling each other stupid is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my entire— the irony is perfect.

Put it on the poll. Worst way to die, asphyxia, asphyxiation, or being punched in the face until you're dead.

So, Michelle, you have not embraced Trump as San Antonio's new good luck charm then? Am I hearing that correctly?

I mean, he's welcome to come. But we didn't vote for him all either. So like, go ahead, buddy. He's not as hated though, because New York hate— New York's hated him since the '70s. Like, we can't compete.

That's true. That's true. Two quick questions, Michelle. First, have at any point in your life have you been referred to for the nickname the Fifth Beatle?

No.

Okay, let's start that. Let's start that. Because the Beatles used to be a very popular group in the 1960s. You're too young to remember.

They're litigious.

There was a phrase, the fifth Beatle. That's right. Unlike the Monkees. Second question. The winner of game—

with the Monkees.

The winner of game 4 wins the series flat out. Yes or no?

Yes. Okay. I'll go yes. God, why do I do that? Why do I do this? This is jinxing everything. Oh, I hate you guys for making me say that.

Unless the Spurs lose, in which case it's going to be no, right?

Yeah. I'm free to make changes to my Whatever. I can't even speak anymore.

She's the host of the NBA show Run It Back with Chandler Parsons and Lou Williams. She's our favorite Spurs correspondent. Do you have anything else for your nemesis here, Ramin?

Yeah. When do you get in? Because we're going to hang out, right?

Oh, yeah. You want to come over and swim? We have a swim party.

Are you for real?

Yeah, I'll be at my brother's there. Let's make this a thing.

I'm having a little—

Let's get you all ready wearing your bathing suit.

Dale, man.

Uh, see you later, Michelle. Thank you for stopping by and congratulations.

Bye, guys! He looks like a fancy fish.

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Don Lebatard. He called me on my own podcast. He called me full of shit, claiming that I'm faking interest in the solar eclipse. Well, you do do this.

You love to just get excited about everything.

Okay, Junior. Stugatz. I had to school you and explain to you.

He was going to take you to Augusta.

I mean, when I was 17 years old, Alan Cherry and I used to haunt the Bueller Planetarium. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugatz.

I want to delight Greg Cody here by playing something that we played yesterday that he has not heard. Jason Bonetti gave us a bonus out of nowhere Greg Cody catchphrase. Let's see if we get Greg Cody's catchphrases ready because I want to update his top 75 catchphrases of all time. Are you ready for Jason Bonetti? He used another one of yours. And let's hear your ranking and how you feel about this one. Let's see if you laugh so much that you cough.

Tigers offense has started to cook here in Tampa. They're going to leave going, what, we break a window on the way out of here?

That's great. He did that. The cadence, the delivery was very good. I— it, it didn't seem to make much sense. I couldn't fit it into what he was talking about, but what do we break a window was— the delivery was just pristine.

What, we break a window?

Great job, Jason. Thank you for that.

Love him like a pet.

I do love him like a pet.

Yeah, you're in a monolog.

Just said that.

That's why I said it, because I heard myself thinking. Very good.

Very good.

Okay, are you ready?

Yeah.

All right, uh, are we starting on number 60? Are we starting on number 50? Where are we starting?

Starting on number 60 right now. For the time being, it's a top 60 countdown.

And remember, we've gotten to the point now when he rattles through these, he almost passes out. You can take a breath. Like, we don't want you to die, right? Take a breath if you need to.

Although if he were to die, Nummies would go up.

That's the way to go up.

Well, it's not true.

That shit would be viral.

Wait a minute. I'm dying on my podcast, not this one.

Yeah, he's said that many times.

Okay.

He's also made me promise that the week after he passes, we release an episode.

Gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die.

I—

Peck of dirt. That's right. Nana. Nana Dougie.

I know that's right. I'm you.

You keep agreeing with your inner monolog.

Yeah, you know, ain't no log in it.

You're—

save that, save that.

Your inner monolog is speaking on behalf of you. You don't have to agree with it.

It's your inner monolog.

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Number 60, Greg.

Glenn Pascarelli up there too. Well, hey, Roto, got my eye on you.

I just, I do want to step back for a second here because Greg Cody said that he doesn't want to die on this podcast. He wants to die on his podcast.

You don't get to choose.

And that's correct.

I do.

And no, you don't. You don't get to choose there. And your son has said that it would be good for numbers. That's not what I was going to say. Numbies. Yeah, that is what you said. Put it on the Paul Le Batard Show. Douche or no douche, guy who calls numbers numbies. What I was saying though is that as you go through this list on our show, it's not for ratings. I believe that your father, if I gave him his choice on preferred ways to go, instead of asphyxiation or being punched in the face till his death, high on the list would be while reading his catchphrases to an international audience. Why are you shadowboxing?

Eh, seemed like the thing to do.

Gotta stay on your toes.

Gotta be on your toes, right?

You're sitting.

I know, but I'm metaphorically on my toes.

Number 60.

Number 60, I'm Fullerton Vern Fuller, 59. Where's my clicker? Click, click. 58, hey, Butterfinger. 57, punt. 56, Scranton. 55, I'm busier than a one-armed paper hanger. 54, Georgia. Georgia. 53, I'm the kind of guy that— 52, ballin' the jack. 51, hey, hey, we're the Monkees, baby. 50, thank you, Billy. 49, I love 'em like a pet. 48, who made it a salad? 47, we're rollin' now, huh? 46, your brain beatin' me. 45, let's go state. 48, driver comfort is paramount. 43, dummy up, say bop. 42, catch as catch can. 41, doesn't make it right. 40, so on and so forth. 39, very good. 38, the Little League theory. 37, nice hat, asshole. 36, the others, they all learned from me. 35, don't go showering to try to please me. 34, look at that jerk. 33, it's like a packing house in here. 32, what'd you learn? 31, hee haw, 3, ba da! 30, I'm not gonna take a quiz. 29, sassafras. 28, what do we make, a window? 27, hello! 26, who won? 25, trailers for sale or rent. 24, you gotta eat a peck of dirt before you die. 23, 3 words, we are the Lobos!

22, you're gonna go to Buffalo with Bernie Parmley. 21, rappy kak. 20, another crisis solved. 19, nice chatting with you. 18, he ain't heavy, he's my blank. 17, hey, that's what I'm talking about. 16, here we go, the 2 new ones now.

Oh, you almost gave it up.

Hold on, hold on.

17 is great. Hey, that's what I'm talking about.

I don't appreciate it.

It makes us furious every time, but it makes you, it makes Tony so happy. Tony is rarely as radiant as he is when, right in Zazz's face, Cody, with no knowledge of one of Zazz's signature phrases, changes it, co-ops it, makes it his own, and dare I say, Tony thinks it's better.

It's absolutely better.

It's not better.

It's absolutely—

you can't just take the awesome things I say and throw hey into it and say it's better.

You say them in your voice, he sings them. Hey, that's what I'm talking about, Zazz.

Let me tell you something, a great A great poet named Sean Carter once said, "You made it a hotline, he made it a hot song." Wow.

There you go. I don't know what else he said.

I agree with that. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. Yep, that's mine now.

Looks right at me when he says it. It's insulting.

Yeah, he stares you down in a way. And Tony, when I'm watching Tony as it happens, it's not just that Cody is singing in your face.

Yeah, 'cause Tony can't fight his own battles, so he feels like Greg is putting me down.

I put you down every single time we battle.

Yeah, get him, Greg.

You haven't beaten me in a battle once.

Okay, I got cucked on a catchphrase.

Greg Cody is serenading Zazz with a stolen song. That's insulting enough, but more insulting is the fact that the group thinks that he's bettered one of Zazz's signature catchphrases. Zazz has fewer— he doesn't go with 70 catchphrases. Zazz has maybe 6 or 7, and that's one of them, and it's high on the list, and Greg has stolen and he sings it, and you guys like it better.

The way I see it is Greg Cody is posting up Zazz on the low block. He's posting him down, right?

He's got him pinned.

And I'm here dribbling the ball, and I'm like, I gotta give the ball to Greg here.

So I feed him down low, Greg hits him with the drop step over like a wimby elbow, and then slams it.

The way I see it, Tony, is you're sitting on the end of the bench with your warm-ups on because you never get in the game, and you're rooting for someone else on your team to do the dirty work.

I don't want to give away a secret, but I've also been told that Zazz's wife much prefers, "Hey, that's what I'm talking about." The question I wanted to ask you, Cody, because I recognize all of the phrases, uh, sassafras I have never heard you use, and I don't know the context for when it is you do use it. I don't know what sassafras means.

Sassafras. I think it's a, uh, a form of, uh, it's got something to do with root beer. What? It's got something to do with— you think— how would you say—

you use sassafras when you're doing something and you can't— like, if you're trying to open something, if something's locked, it's like, ah, sassafras!

How is it that you can explain his catchphrase better than him? And he just confused sassafras with sarsaparilla, right?

Yeah, sassafras is like when he's exasperated. I can't do something.

Like, it's exasperation.

When is the last time you said, hey, that's what I'm talking about?

Oh, I say it all the time.

That's one of the things he'll bust out on a cruise when the drink package is flowing. We'll be walking down those long hallways and just inexplicably, hey, that's what I'm talking about.

And it fits almost any occasion. It's an affirmation. It's an affirmative.

Affirmative.

When you sing, hey, that's what I'm talking about, life is good. Hey, that's what I'm talking about. Look at this. Look at a lot— they're bringing a lobster. And a filet mignon. And that's what I'm talking about. Exactly.

Thank you. Put it on the poll, uh, do you know what sarsaparilla is? Is sarsaparilla extinct? You can't go and order sarsaparilla. When did sarsaparilla go? It must be extinct, right?

No, it's still around. You just got to go into a saloon with the swinging doors.

Yeah, the batwing doors.

When did sarsaparilla go extinct? And I don't even know. I know what sarsaparilla is supposed to be. I don't know what it tastes like. It's got fizz.

I thought it was a music Festival.

It's rootberry.

Uh, do you guys know what sarsaparilla tastes like?

Sure.

What does it taste like?

Like root beer.

Yeah, trying to tell you.

Yeah, but root beer tastes like root beer.

So does sarsaparilla and sassafras.

Don Lebatard. That's how it's gonna end, the mailing it in, the end of the retirement. Chris, go get me this. It's just gonna be him coming out and hitting the one or two notes of that kind of thing and you know it, and then just giving us finger Buns and leaving, baby.

You should listen to the Great Cody Show podcast because that's all we do for 55 minutes a week is just say catchphrases. We even make songs about them. The 'And You Know It' is a song, for crying out loud. That's great. Hopefully that's a SUI nominee for best song. And you know it, baby, and you know it, Stugatz. And you know it, baby, and you know it, is it? And you know it, baby, and you know it, is it? And you know it, baby, and you know it, is it? And you know it, baby, and you know it, is it? This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugatz. Sassafras is actually a plant, Dan. Thank you.

That's a thank you. Well, that's what they make root beer from. You're welcome. The root of a sassafras.

Number 16.

Number 16, who let a pet.

That's when someone farts, right?

Right. Yes. Harking back to my childhood.

I don't understand that.

We've learned that pet is some sort of French version of fart.

Right. To let a pet. And my ancestry is French, French-Canadian. So my dad, in my family growing up, if I I did a sound that was regrettable, my dad would say, "Who let a pet?" And now my daughter says it. Yes.

Put it on the poll. Did Wemby, the French Wemby, let a pet the first 2 games of this series? I've never understood that phrase. The first time I heard him use it around the house, I asked him the question of like, what does that mean? What? What is that? Why? And he couldn't explain it. It's just that let rhymes with pet, right?

It's a family tradition.

But it doesn't make any sense.

Yes, it does. Because if you Google— Further away. If you Google French to English, okay, French fart, or English, the word fart in French is péter, like P-E-T-R-E, I believe it's spelled. I'm not positive.

You learned that a week ago when Yeti looked it up.

I learned that a week ago.

You used pet for decades without knowing what it meant.

Correct, that's correct. I had never investigated the etymology. I never put two and two together.

It says here in French the noun fart is un pet.

Yeah, yeah, I ain't lying. Hey, that's what I'm talking about, guys.

This is how inheritance works. I don't know if you guys know this. You don't, you don't question, hey Dad, hey Grandpa, what is it? You just take it and you say, I shall cherish it and use it as my own and pass it on to my progeny, who shall pass it on to their progeny afterward. That's how that works, Zazz. Maybe if you weren't getting beaten by your kids in wrestling or whatever the hell, you wouldn't have this problem.

Never lost.

I mean, nailed Zazz, is it pronounced in French, uh, pet or p-t? Is it— how is it pronounced?

Yeah, well, there's, there's several different ways. One is un pet, another one is, uh, pété, which is spelled like the word Peter.

Oh, okay. I thought it was r-e, but it is e-r.

Okay. Number 15. I think you're both pronouncing it wrong. I think everyone here is pronouncing it wrong. What's number 15?

Call up Wimby.

I don't think it was p-t, I'll tell you that.

Number 15, good on ya.

That's a classic.

That is a classic.

Yeah, that's a strong second single off the album.

Good on ya.

Another one he'll just say at any random time.

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Not so sure you can keep calling it the exclusive home.

For the— it's the, uh, Revelation.

It's the flagship. But it's got a network.

No, but none of— he never—

You're an affiliate.

He never reveals anything here first. It's always revealed there first. It's the reason to listen to the Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody.

Yeah, I maintain you don't know what exclusivity means, though.

Uh, well, I get his point.

If you get the exclusive— if I report something exclusively now and then it ends up on ESPN or Fox, uh, 10 hours from now, I had the exclusive. There you go. Right, yeah, you're aggro.

Aggravating or aggregating what I have reported. Yes, that kind of thing.

It seems to me that the Brendan Sorsby situation— if you do not know the situation, the Texas Tech quarterback, one of the best quarterbacks in the country, a legitimate project, a prospect who has NFL credentials. And Texas Tech has gotten good at all sports. They're spending money on all sports and they were in the playoffs last year in football. With perhaps the best team they've ever had. I know they had a team that beat Texas one time that Michael Crabtree was on, but I think that that's about as good, about as well as Texas Tech can play football last year, and they're trying to build off of the momentum of that. Swartzbee has a gambling problem, and he gambled on previous teams and made thousands of bets and then went to rehab after it was uncovered, not beforehand. And so people wonder whether it was PR or whether he genuinely sought help because he knew he needed help. The consensus is— when I can't get the consensus on just about anything— everyone in college football seems to be mad about this. And the only people that agree that Sorsby should be playing football next year for Texas Tech seem to be the judge who ruled in his favor and Sorsby.

Everyone else is pissed off that the integrity of the sport can be smeared in a way that makes it so crazy that in 2026 you've arrived at gambling not only being normalized throughout our country and the world, but what has also been normalized is— used to be— that if a player did this, he never played again, period. Like, if this is such an egregious crime that if you bet on sports this way, you are simply banned. And a judge ruled in his favor, and now you have the entire sport is clucking, saying, how is this allowed?

Didn't Pete Rose lose his entire livelihood for this?

That's what I was going to say. His entire livelihood for doing the exact same equivalent, the exact same thing in baseball. Pete Rose was shamed and ostracized, and that followed him to the grave. And to this day, he is not in the Hall of Fame. The all-time hits leader, not in the Hall of Fame because of this very thing. And now this kid gets to continue playing because a judge who by all accounts is a big Texas Tech fan rules in his favor. It's absolutely— it's shameful that the Texas Tech Red-Faced Raiders should be ashamed of themselves. And this kid should not be playing college football ever again.

I'll be honest, and I'm not embarrassed to say it because this is the current state state of college athletics. I don't understand how anything works. And what I mean by that is it just seems if you're not happy with something that the NCAA is ruling, you get to just go to court. Yeah. And whatever the judge says is what— and like, I'm not allowed to play college football for a 9th year? I'm gonna go see what this judge has to say. Yes, you can play a 9th year.

It's the illusion of order. It's a toothless organization. I don't understand it. But it's a toothless organization. It always has been. For some reason, the institutions have decided to follow its rules, but it isn't any good at enforcement, and it doesn't have any power. And now that all the rules are changing, everything has caved in because of course the court system, which is also flawed by the way, uh, the court system is more powerful than the NCAA, which is toothless.

Absolutely toothless. They don't win court cases, and if you lose, you appeal and you'll win that one. Josh Pate had a good take on this.

Like, if I lose a game, by the way, can I go to court and appeal the game? And maybe the judge— like, can the judge overturn games?

No.

No.

Oh, so far anyways. But Josh Pate's take on this was like, you feel like a dummy if you ever self-reported any violations under the NCAA banner. Miami gave up an ACC championship game that would have been against FSU, and they self-reported during the whole Nevin Shapiro thing. I feel like a dope for doing any of that. This, this institution has always been toothless. They actually have no real power. This is a dark day, though, for the sport because there is one one hard rule in athletics. We haven't seen Terry Rozier, and he was by the accounts doing something knowingly but not placing the bet himself, right? You do not alter bets when you're on your team. You don't place a bet on your team. You don't, you don't influence a game with gambling hanging over it. And that, that seems to be a pretty good rule. He, he placed plenty of bets when he was at Indiana. Plenty. And for him to be able to still play— what is he, he's gonna miss the first 2 games?

2 games.

Yeah.

I mean, this is, uh, yeah, this isn't even— this is not allowed in the pro ranks. So in, in college, Dan, gambling was always just— I mean, you want beyond third rail. And for for this to go this way. That's why you're seeing all the schools react this way. Nebraska and Georgia in different conferences saying we're not going to play them. There's legit talks about boycotting Texas Tech.

Do we have the judge's decision? I'd love to read exactly his opinion, why he felt like Sorber should be allowed to play.

There are a couple of things here that I wanted to get to because I don't believe when Mike says that, uh, that in professional sports, uh, this is something that's a hard and fast rule. Yes, because professional sports have governing bodies that can actually have teeth when they bite. The other thing though that Greg Cody said, uh, Texas Tech should be ashamed of itself. Are you kidding me? They got a quarterback. Like, what are you talking about? All that matters is do we have a quarterback? Do we have someone who gives us a chance to, to win games? Like, get your moralities out of here, all of them. This quarterback gives us a chance, a better chance that we would have without this quarterback. That's the standard. There's no shame around that standard because this is a sort of amateurized professional football but with fewer rules, uh, that mean anything than professional football.

Well, I'll come to Greg's defense for a second in that regard. Like, okay, yes, the athletics department feels that way, they need a quarterback, but like, when does the university president step in and say, hey, Hey, this can't be the way our school is represented.

I hear you, Zazz, but I gotta counter because I have the judge's opinion right here and he makes a pretty solid case. He said, quote, that Sorsby demonstrated that he will suffer a probable, imminent, and irreparable injury if he cannot play. The judge said Sorsby would miss out on the coaching, camaraderie, and training and wouldn't be able to build necessary skills to help himself and Texas Tech's team if he didn't receive the injunction. How can you argue with that, Zazz?

I also think the third point that he brought up in his defense was that he turned to wagering as a means of medicating his own anxiety.

Who among us?

That he didn't have anxiety from wagering, that wagering was his cure. Of course. For his own anxiety. And Dan, you mentioned something about the other professional sports having governing bodies that have teeth. Why is that? Because they're collectively bargained sports. And the longer that the NCAA, the administrators, and all the business behind it continue to refuse to collectively bargain this sport, you're gonna have things like this happen.

Very good.