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This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugatz Podcast.

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So it's rare that I have a day off, um, from doing anything, like to where I actually just have a whole day to myself. And it was really nice because yesterday I was able to catch up on some things that I haven't been able to do around the house, which included fixing our dryer, which has been broken for 2 and a half months now. I didn't fix it. I had to hire someone to do so because I am not a mechanical person.

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There you go.

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But one of the best feelings—

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like a real member of the tribe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, come on. You think I can fix anything with my hands? Me? Me? No, never. But one of the, one of the great feelings that can exist is when you hire someone to come do something that you know nothing about and you leave that experience feeling like you weren't ripped off. 'Cause most of the time I feel like, ah, somebody got something over on me here. But the price that was discussed is what you actually pay. They actually find a way to fix something with a cheaper thing than what you thought, maybe a part you were gonna have to replace, and even recommend things you can do to maintain that appliance or things like that. So, um, for me, my experience in this situation was huge. It helps my relationship with my wife. We can actually dry our clothes as opposed to putting them on a clothing rack like we're some sort of European family. And I think that's worth a toast. Oh yeah, and worth a toast is presented by Cuervo. Keep it fun, keep it Cuervo.

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Yeah, all right, there you go. Thank you, Cuervo. All right, how about that? I have a couple questions here to add. Uh, well, actually, number one, I will let you know I had a clothesline growing up as a kid. We had a clothesline in our backyard, and yeah, my mother, she would put the clothes on the clothesline and Uh, you know, God forbid it starts raining, you gotta run out there with the hamper and you gotta take the clothes off the clothesline. Uh, in that—

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I had—

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let me tell you, I had a great backyard as a kid. Yeah, we had—

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what'd you have back there?

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We had an orange and a grapefruit tree.

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Oh, that's amazing, right? That's actually really truly great.

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We had an orange and a grapefruit tree.

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Did you make fresh-squeezed orange juice?

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Of course.

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Grape juice all the time?

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Of course. Oh, what a life. Of course.

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Dave, how about the official? I mean, come on.

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Well, First of all, the best smell in the world is, uh, is the orange blossom. Ah, twice a year it comes around and it fills the air and my heart, and, uh, and it's the best. Grapefruit is a bad fruit, and it's also the laziest name fruit. You understand that there, that when they were naming the grapefruit, they're like, what should we call this big orange orb? By the way, You know, an orange is named— the fruit orange preceded the color orange being named orange, which is, I think, no way, mind-blowing fact I've literally have ever heard in my life. The orange, like, what should we call it? That the fruit was named orange before the color was named orange. I can't fathom.

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I don't believe you.

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Now dig what's true. You can look it up while you're trying to pick yourself up off the floor from that one. You know, so they're naming the grapefruit.

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You put it on the poll. What came first, the fruit named orange or the color named orange? Go ahead, Dave.

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It was— it must have been about 4:58 PM on Friday when they were at the fruit factory trying to figure out what they were going to call the grapefruit. They're like, what should we do here? Like, I mean, Grapefruit? Like, well, I mean, well, how could we call it a grape? Well, there's already a fruit called grape, and it has nothing to do with this giant orange circle. A grape as we know it is this oblong smaller thing. Like, well, you know what? It's now $4.59. Let's just go with grapefruit. Let's get outta here. I'll see y'all on Monday. That has to be the way it went down. How else would you explain that they did this late, not only lazy, but confusing act? We already have a free— it's the same thing as in football. They— you have two things called safety. It's not like we ran out of words, we just ran out of, uh, of, um, you know, effort. Israel. So you have the last line of defense, you know, the guy back there, the two guys back there, they're your last line. So if everything else goes, goes haywire, at least we have the safety back there to clean things up.

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Okay, that makes sense. Now, when a 300-pound man falls on you on purpose in the end zone, that's not safe. That's dangerous. But they call it a safety, and then they give you 2 points for it, and then they make the most exotic symbol in all of sports for referees, the safety call, which salvages it. But otherwise, it makes no sense. It's called a safety.

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Juju put it on the poll as well. Is the safety signal the referee gives the most exotic symbol in sports?

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I got news for you, you assholes.

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Why did he do it like walk like an Egyptian?

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The earliest uses of the word in English refer to the fruit, and the color was later named after the fruit. Before the English-speaking world was exposed to the fruit, the color was referred to as yellow-red or red-yellow.

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What the hell?

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Aren't orange you glad you learned that fact? I just bungled.

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No, no, no, kick her out, kick her out, kick her out of here. That's what she comes up with after the cynicism?

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That was about this.

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You, Trista, you did it too. Once you put your hands over your head like this, there's no choice but to do the walk like in a chip shop. Get out of here.

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Penalty for that one.

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Gotta go. Butchered it on the way out too, on a bad joke. Wow.

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If you're gonna land bad joke, at least land it.

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Yeah, that was—

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I mean, also, I would want to put in as an asterisk here, you got the, uh, the safety gesture. I want to call the blocking foul one of the most exotic ones. You get one right, right here.

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Can you, uh, can I ask you again though Tony, uh, what is it you put? What was that word again?

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An asterisk.

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Okay, alright.

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Just making sure.

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What do you think I said?

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Nope.

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So, two things I want to ask you then, Jeremy, about your experience. Number one, do you like it when you invite— when you have the guy over, in your case he's servicing the laundry machine, or maybe it's your AC that's being fixed or whatever, do you like it when the guy who's doing it, he's explaining, like he's teaching you?

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This is a great question.

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Because I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I don't care about how all of this goes. That's why I hired you. You're the AC guy, you know? I do what I do, alright? I'm not explaining to you how my work goes. I just— I'm paying for the service. I want you to fix it. I'm not trying to learn anything about my AC.

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No, this is a great question because A—

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But it's like I'm going through a tutorial.

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It depends on how condescending they're being, right? Because it's like sometimes it's like, "You should have known." It's like, buddy, I— I don't know. I obviously don't know. If I knew, I wouldn't be hiring you to come do this.

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But it's like they're telling me there's this, there's—

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and I feel the need, I'm nodding, like, "Oh yeah, that makes sense, yeah." But I do think, like, this was a perfect example, actually, of this working out, in that this guy was explaining things to me when he was searching for the problem. He's saying, "I wonder if it could be this, I wonder if it could be that." Then once he found it, "All right, I'm going to fix it." And then afterward, the little bit of stuff that he explained was just, "Hey, for some maintenance. There are these pods you can get for your washing machine that you can, you know, use these once a month. It'll help you maintain that. Hey, even for your dishwasher, I'll send you the Amazon links myself. All you gotta do for me at the end of all this, hey, if you could write a Google review, that'd be great. Absolutely, man. Thank you for helping me out.

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Dave, I think it's a tough call. What I'm picking up from Zaslow is though that he is enough of an empath that he feels bad doing the move. I, I have a really hard time doing it, but I try to force this when they're fixing something. I feel like I should stand there —That's my next question, that's my next question. —You're part of it, but the move I'm trying to force, Zazz, is like, "If you need anything, I'm in the room next door." —Right. —And then you just remove yourself from that, 'cause I don't want to stand there nodding along like some sort of a dope or something.

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—Yeah, I know, I know.

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—So I know what's going on? It's not my business. Just fix it up. My business is writing the check at the end of it. That's the end of our transaction. You'll find me in the other room when you're completed successfully with fixing this up. That's the end of the relationship.

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It depends on how easy the conversation is going and again, how, how talked down to I feel, because oftentimes it's happening during the workday, right? And sometimes this is actually a day where I am working from home and I'm trying to fit this in between. And so I have, in order to avoid one of these conversations before, I have gone to the clock in my phone and played the sound of one of the alarms that can sound like a ringtone. So I'm getting a phone call. And then walk away and be like, "Hello? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah." And then walk downstairs so they don't hear me. Yeah, I've done it before. You cannot do that. 'Cause I'm more willing to do that than to just be like, "Hey, I'm gonna walk away." That's there?

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Oh no, I could talk to the guy.

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"Let me know when you're done, I'm gonna be downstairs." Yeah, I don't know what the—

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Tashay seems like the— Does Tashay put out— I could see him, he's the most likely of this group to put into a bowl some goldfish and put them out there for the repairman, right? To make him feel at home. Is that true? Zazz, do you do anything like that? Can I get you some chips? We have some pretzels.

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No, I mean, I'll offer them a water.

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Water always.

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Yeah, sure, but I'm not all fine. Yeah, I'm a gentleman. Cheddar Goldfish.

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No, he just offers for them to sleep with his wife.

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Jeez, showstopper. Dave Matthews Band.

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Showstopper. Literally, I had a take and it stunned me. How on and also surprising that was. I think though you guys are doing it wrong, because if you're going to be a true GC— that's general contractor— for—

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she knows all those. I follow Trisha on social, if you don't know. She knows what she's talking about.

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Listen, I've— I am doing a lot of work on my childhood home, and the thing that you learn very quickly is they're all a little dark web network, and they know each other, and they can refer you to other people. Listen, You're talking about a massive potential savings by learning what they have to tell you and, and pushing back on— sometimes they're gonna tell you things that you don't need, that if you've been keeping your eyes open, your third eye open, you know they're finessing you. Like, do I really need my furnace chimney to be removed and now my HVAC estimate is $15K? Depends who you ask. And do I now know Dennis, who tells me he can get me a 25% discount and I get his wholesale price because his price is now my price because my mom made him a burrito and got him a 12-inch pizza? Also, yes. Pause.

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I didn't know where that was going. Zazz, you look to me like a guy that can do some stuff around the house. You, you call guys in to do the dirty work, but you, you get there on a hammer and a nail and you get up on a ladder to start hammering stuff. I see you as that kind of guy.

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I do nothing. I'm Jewish. I don't take care of any of that stuff.

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No, that's right. He's right. He's spot on.

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So none of you guys in the tribe do anything.

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Oh, it's why we make money.

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You ever thought about it?

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No, but that's how I feel about the guy when I go to get my oil change and the brother pull up, bro, look at your air filter. I'm like, hey, asshole, put that back. Oh man.

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All right, well, I'm glad, I'm glad you got everything fixed there yesterday, Jeremy. Good job. Thank you.

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Stugatz! We're gonna win! They're annoying.

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What an old reference.

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This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugatz! I wanna touch on something serious here for a moment. No easy way to segue to it, but I wanna do it anyway here. Terrible news yesterday, Dave. I know that you're very aware of this as well, where Claude Lemieux, who is an all-time great NHL player, great scorer, all-time instigator, bad boy in the National Hockey League, multi-time Stanley Cup champion, passed away yesterday, uh, apparent suicide, that he was found, uh, in, in a warehouse in Palm Beach County here that I guess his family ran a furniture business apparently down here. 60 years old, Claude Lemieux dies by suicide. and it's, it's always shocking, but it's especially shocking when, you know, tonight is Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Final between Carolina and Montreal, and in Game 3 in Montreal, he was the torchbearer in Montreal. He's wearing his Canadiens sweater. He played for them back in the '80s, and he, he's the one who had the lit torch, and got the party started, Game 3, and it's like, oh man, that's awesome, Claude Lemieux is lighting the torch, and you know, he's pumping up the crowd, and 2 days later, dies by suicide.

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Absolutely shocking to hear yesterday, Dave. Yeah, I don't know a good way to— again, I don't know everything to say about it, but it's always shocking when someone passes away like that. You feel like, hey, you know, what could possibly be wrong with this person? But then I started thinking yesterday, Dave, and like, man, you know, we're watching him, Game 3, go out there and he's lighting the torch, and, and that's an unbelievable moment, and I'm sure he enjoyed it. But what else is going on in his head in that moment? It must have been awful.

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Well, you say, um, you don't know exactly how to bring it up and, and what to say about it. You know, this is nominally a sports show, and, you know, he was a luminary for a long stretch there in a major sport, and so that alone makes it worthwhile. Yeah, you know, um, it also reminds you, um, if you're wired, I guess, uh, at least like my brain is, you know, one of the first things you think of within 5 seconds after hearing that dreadful news and the details and all of that are like, man, I feel bad because I know nothing about Claude Lemieux, the three-dimensional human being. I do know him as somebody who rooted against him, against his teams. I— there is nobody in any sport who I dislike more than Claude Lemieux.

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Easy player to hate. Easy.

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I hated him. And yet, you know, then you, you, you, you, you, um, you consider, as you say, you know, what was going on here. And the, the behavior a couple few days ago with the smile on his face and carrying the torch, you know, we've seen this, unfortunately, obviously, a number of times. It feels like in the last decade of, you know, known figures, like what Nothing based on what we see in public would indicate that anything bad, you know, Bourdain, and you know, we've seen this a number of times. I don't have any insight on it. Obviously dreadful stuff, and it reminds you, like I say, that you're wired as a sports fan to be semi-petulant or otherwise and deluded about what you're rooting for and rooting against and all of that, and then you sort of get a slap across the face like, oh yeah, he was a real man who had some real troubles apparently.

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Growing up, growing up in the '90s, like, I remember just those battles when he was with Colorado and Colorado versus Detroit, and you had the Chris Draper incident, and he was like an all-time instigator, uh, a bad boy, so easy to hate, so easy to root against. And he had a very famous incident with Darren McCarty, uh, Avalanche-Red Wings as well, right, Roy?

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Yeah, Darren McCarty was Chris Draper's basically his best friend. So the year after the Avalanche won the Stanley Cup against Florida, the Western Conference Final, they played Detroit, and that's where he boarded Chris Draper.

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And wasn't that when, when he said after the handshake line and he said, I can't believe I shake that guy's hand? That was Dino Ciccarelli. Oh, I can't believe I shake that guy's effing hand, right?

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Yeah. So during McCarthy—

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because some guys didn't shake his hand in that line. Yeah, correct.

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Yeah. The next year, during the regular season in March, Everybody had that date circled because, right, Claude Lemieux, the couple of games prior, did not play. So when he went to Detroit, police showed up. It was like a riotous situation.

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Yeah. And then— and this wasn't just like— this wasn't a goon. This was a 40-goal scorer. Okay. This is a guy who several times in his career scored over 30 goals. He had a 40-goal season. This was a big-time player.

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No, absolutely. And that incident did not even start with him. It was Peter Forsberg. Who started that incident. And then all of a sudden, Darren McCarty saw Claude Lemieux on the ice and just sucker punched him.

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I got here, Darren McCarty tweeted out yesterday, just heard the news on Claude Lemieux. This is extremely sad. No matter what feelings from past or present you hold, my thoughts and prayers to his family and friends and people who got to see the person off the ice wasn't the person on. As I've said and will always call it as I see it, quote, if you're on the ice with Claude Lemieux, And you turn your back, you are an idiot. But off the ice, I'll turn mine. And please, if you're struggling at all, please reach out and talk to someone. Godspeed, my friend. Really nice message there from Darren McCarty. And it also just brings me back to last week. I know that we played this where you had that meatball Dana White who was doing the sit-down with whoever the woman was and talking about mental health issues and that, you know, how unattractive and unmasculine it is if you're a male. Nobody wants to see that. Nobody wants to hear hear that. Uh, like, I'd like to hear if Dana White thinks that Claude Lemieux is manly enough, or if he's, uh, uh, if he wasn't masculine.

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Claude Lemieux, you know, I'd like to hear that from, from Dana White. Uh, what a stupid effing thing to say.

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It was good that Darren McCarty and Claude Lemieux buried the hatchet. They did that ahead of a, uh, 30 for 30, uh, E60, uh, special that ESPN did about that rivalry.

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So it was good to see. Yeah, to your point, Zazz, like Uh, to, to me, and we've talked about this a lot on the show, like there's, there's nothing, um, more human than being vulnerable. Um, it's presently Mental Health Awareness Month. Like if, if you are someone that goes through this, like any one of us is, is not quite there. Um, I know I'm someone who's dealt with like really high highs and really low lows, um, before and had to do like a lot of work through therapy. To get to the space where you can kind of even life out a little bit. But there's a lot of people who, who never get there. And if you're someone who's dealing with that, like, reach out to the people who love you. If you have people in your life who you love, reach out to them because you never know what's going on, whether it's through the simple conversations that you're having via text that you think like, oh, we're all in a group chat together, like everything's fine, we're all just shooting the shit. Reach out to the people that you care about, talk to them.

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You know, this is a perfect time to do it going into the summer. Everybody has different things going on.

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Jeremy, this reminds me, I saw— because yeah, it is Mental Health Awareness Month, right? I saw this commercial that blew me away. I saw this commercial a couple weeks ago, it was for mental health awareness, and it was the commercial, you know, like the headline was, you never know what someone's going through. And then it's showing, it's, it's these It's these two friends who are at a soccer match, okay? Apparently they have season tickets together, you know, and they're at every— every week they're at the soccer match with each other. And you got the two guys there, and one of the guys, you could tell he's like, he's like really reserved, maybe he's sad, you know? And the team scores a goal and the friend is super excited, and the friend's patting him and getting him excited. But the one friend, he's, you know, it's— you never know what someone's going through. And every week it's the same deal where He's just kind of sitting there and watching the game, and the other friend is super pumped and super excited. And then the last clip is the friend who is sitting down and is, you think, is sad.

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It's the seat next to him then that's empty one day. Yep. And it was the friend who's super happy and super excited, and you don't know what— I— that hit me. It's a really beautiful line. I didn't see that coming. Yeah. I did not know that was the direction.

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But it's real life.

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Like that the commercial was going. It happens all the time, right?

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I mean, like the textbook example is Robin Williams. Like, I remember just being totally floored by the concept that someone as bright and who could bring so much joy and happiness to the world as Robin Williams would be feeling such dark things in his own state of mind. And so, you know, someone like Claude Lemieux that is walking out there having a triumphant moment just a few days ago, just because this happened a few days later doesn't mean he wasn't feeling the highs of that. Those things can, can happen simultaneously. And so just because someone looks to be happy or having, you know, a happy moment doesn't mean that, that those things might not be buried underneath. So, um, if you're also— if you're someone who's like hearing any of this and feeling any of those thoughts yourself, like, 988 is is the National Suicide Hotline. It's an incredible, um, resource for people. Um, and, you know, finding therapy and talking to the people you love is, is another great way to go.

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I think that it's almost two different conversations in a way. I think, uh, if you're listening right now, Tashay is you and you are Tashay. I think it's a different thing with advantaged people, um, that probably exposes them to different sorts of emotional issues. They probably don't get a ton of pushback for long stretches. I don't mean for, you know, a good stretch in the playoffs. I mean, you know, for 20 years, 25 years of your life, you're getting mostly backslaps everywhere you go. Yeah. And so it is unhelpful at best for Dana White to be shooting his mouth off, who has every advantage in the world and can be glib about things like that because he probably isn't an introspective sort and can slough off the that sort of vulnerability and otherwise. But clearly there's a percentage of people that are three-dimensional human beings that have outwardly every advantage going for them. You know, Puka Nacua is, I think, now out of rehab, and now he's thanking the Rams for being there for him, and Sean McVay saying it was really nice of Puka to open himself up to me like that. And forgive me, but I'm a little cynical about that.

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Everybody does not have— Tashae is representing what most of us, the experience most of us have. There are not organizations forming to help us out, so you have to take the step yourself, I guess, is the takeaway, and ignore the dopiness multimillionaire counsel of Dana White, the meathead.

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You mean organizations who are willing to just bypass biting women and antisemitic rhetoric because, hey, you know, he opened up to me, I'm proud of him.

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Hey, they have a White House performance to plan.

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Dan Lebatard. John Zaslo. How you love that catchphrase. Bad news for opposing teams in the Triple-A. Stugatz. He's all smiles till the bronze are clutch again. This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugatz. So if we could segue, uh, to something a little bit more fun. And thanks for, uh, I guess everybody listening or watching. I thought that was important to mention about Claude Lemieux. If we could segue to something that is a little bit more fun. So on Mystery Crate today, right, we have Mystery Crate coming out. This afternoon. I hope you guys, uh, you listen or you watch. We do talk about a movie that I saw at the beginning of the week, this new horror movie called Obsession. Oh my, what a movie! Dave, have you seen it?

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Everyone in my family has, and they all are gaga. Yes, my wife loves horror movies, and she is— she's, she, she's wild for this picture.

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Yes, every once in a while a movie like that comes out. They're like, you never heard of it, and you didn't expect it. It's just 'You gotta go see this movie.' This is one of those movies, alright? Super low budget, and I love horror films. Didn't like it when I was younger, 'cause I don't wanna be scared. What do I wanna be scared for? But horror movies these days, and I don't know how long it's been, but, you know, like when I was growing up, the horror movies were Halloween, Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th, where it's just horror film for the sake of being a horror film. Nowadays you have horror films that these could also be good films. You know, you got a drama that's a good movie or, or a comedy or an action that's a good movie. There are also horror movies that are just legit great movies. And so me and my boys, we love the horror genre these days, especially from the studios like Blumhouse and like A24. And this movie Obsession is, is Blumhouse. It's like, oh, of course it's going to be good. You got to go see this movie.

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So I have a top 5 for your ass today. You ready? Wow. Of what? Of what? Uh, top 5 horror movies since the year 2020 of our Lord. I don't do top 5 horror movies ever because I, I haven't seen all the horror movies, you know. So we're doing— I'm doing recent horror films. I want—

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I can't wait to hear this, but also, I, I, I'm sorry, I have to be a curmudgeon and say I don't know what the hell you're talking about, that old horror movies aren't worthy of, uh, awards, Academy and otherwise. I mean, The Exorcist and The Shining, sure, a couple of gems, sure, at the top of my head.

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But I think you're right, but I think, I think more often now there's a, there's a better chance now of also seeing a horror film made that is also a really good movie. I think it's more common. Maybe I'm wrong about that. I just, I think it's more common now that we're not just focused on the, the shock value or the gore. We're also trying to make these really good movies too. Maybe I'm wrong. Is the—

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is Seven the start of that, do you think? I don't— because I feel like you could make a case that that's borderline a horror movie, right? It's got two— in a way, the stars are too big for it to be, um, reduced or marginalized. It's just a horror movie. But if you really break it, break it down, that's what it is. Think about the deaths and everything. Yeah, at best it's borderline.

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I think Seven's a thriller. That's a suspense movie. What about Little Shop of Horrors? I like— so I, I think at at best, that's borderline horror. I don't think— like, if we went to Blockbuster Video, I've used this example before, right? If you go to Blockbuster Video— now don't look for Blockbuster today because they don't exist anymore— but if we went to Blockbuster Video, you know, they have the placards there, action, comedy, like, like, Seven's gonna be under the suspense, it's not gonna be under horror, right?

00:28:46

Yeah, but in the same way that, forgive me, your beloved Pearl Jam and Nirvana begat that they have to wear the fact that the iterations that follow them are, uh, meeker, worse versions. Like Creed— Creed doesn't happen without Pearl Jam. And I wonder if better, you know, higher quality movies that are in the horror genre, um, are sort of come from like— right, that the audience will see Seven. Yeah, yeah, they'll sit through— I see what you're saying— just horrid stuff.

00:29:16

I see what you're saying. All right, so here we go, top 5 horror movies since the year 2020. Number 5, Talk to Me. It's got a supernatural element to it. It's, it's, it's got some gore to it as well. Uh, these teenagers, they, they, they find, they find this hand, okay? And, and if, and if you, you hold the hand and you say, talk to me, oh my, you get possessed. By a demon, and it's like a high apparently. It's like taking drugs. So the teenagers, they're obsessed with it. Has anyone else seen Talk to Me?

00:29:55

I haven't seen Talk to Me, but I've seen Idle Hands when I was a teenager, when the brother hand was just doing everything. That was pretty cool.

00:30:02

All right, all right. That was very creepy what Dave has shown me here. Dave, have you seen Talk to Me? It sounds like you have if you're showing that prop.

00:30:09

I haven't, but you caught my interest when you mentioned a floating hand. This is the Hand of Fame. I was at Canton one time backstage while the guys in the gold jackets were going out there there, and I said, forget the Hall of Fame, will you sign my hand of fame? Mean Joe Greene, Joe Namath, other luminaries.

00:30:24

How about that? What is it throwing up? Is that GD?

00:30:29

Number 4. Yeah, look at that, it's gonna throw up the shocker. Number 4: Smile. This movie is creepy as hell. You remember the promotion? That's when the characters in the previews, they have this really creepy smile, and Major League Baseball did this promotion with the movie where they had these extras who were sitting behind home plate and they're just sitting there with a smile. Creepy as all hell. Like, if you didn't know that this was a movie promotion, like, can we get somebody to check on these people who are in the stands?

00:31:02

It worked on some. Some of the audience was like, what the hell is going on? I remember that in social media, like, do you see the weirdo behind home plate? I think I got got by that.

00:31:11

Yeah. Now there is a Smile 2 Really good also. It's not on my top 5, but Smile coming in at number 4. That movie is crazy. Okay, number 3, Black Phone. There's a Black Phone 2 which came out recently. I enjoyed it very much. But the original Black Phone, Ethan Hawke, he, he plays a, uh, he's, he's like a kidnapper, all right? Kidnaps children, kills them. It takes place like back in the '70s, I believe. Uh, there's a supernatural element there as well. But this Black— that's a great horror slash suspense movie. Has anyone seen Black Phone? Oh yeah, Ethan Hawke, right? That's a really good movie, very creepy. Why are you shaking your head no, Trista? I— this is the—

00:32:03

this movie right here was when I developed the take that you should not be allowed to play horror movie trailers for sporting events. I have not dropped it in. I have not consented. You want to get your little horror preview off, do it in the theater with other horror shit, okay? Like, I'm trying to see Wemba Nyama. I don't need to be like, Black Phone, are you ready to play a game? And I'm like, no, dude, not at all.

00:32:29

That's fair, actually. Yeah, yeah, kids don't want— kids don't want to see a preview for a movie about kidnapping kids, you know? I'm trying to watch basketball here. That's fair. All right, number 3 was Black Phone. Number 2 Weapons! Yeah, what a movie!

00:32:47

What an end scene, huh?

00:32:48

Oh my, it's hilarious, the end scene. But it's— second half of this movie is a comedy, if we're being honest here, but overall it's a horror. Uh, Aunt Gladys, you never saw that coming. I love Julia Garner. I mean, in Ozark, oh my God, she is fantastic. And this, Josh Brolin's great. You've never seen a movie like Why are the kids running into the darkness? What are the kids doing? 2:17 in the morning. What are they doing? Weapons. What a movie. That's scary.

00:33:20

The scariest part of Weapons to me, and the saddest part— spoiler alert, so skip on— spoiler alert— is when they were at the table and the little kid saw his parents and Miss Gladys did this. And they just start forking their faces.

00:33:37

She's a witch. She's a witch. All right, that's number 2. And number 1, top 5 horror movies since the year 2020. But no spoilers though, right?

00:33:45

No spoilers. No spoilers.

00:33:48

No spoilers. Right, the alert out there. Number 1, Obsession.

00:33:55

You're already giving it number 1 status?

00:33:57

Number 1 horror movie. This This movie is phenomenal. I'm telling you, you gotta go see it. The lead actress, I don't even know her name, I've never seen her in anything else before. She should get an award. She's phenomenal in this movie. Creepy as hell. I mean, some of these scenes make you really uncomfortable. Why the hell is she—

00:34:17

What is the plot?

00:34:18

Okay, there's a supernatural element to it. I'll give you— no, you can hear the plot, Juju, it's not a spoiler. And so there's like a wishing willow, okay? It's like a bullshit toy. A wishing willow, and you get one wish when you have the wishing willow. And the kid, he wishes that his longtime high school crush would love him more than anything in the world. That's the movie.

00:34:43

More than anything in the world. Be careful how you word things.

00:34:49

That's the movie. It is— the ending is wild. The whole movie's wild, all right? So Obsession, that's number 5. Talk to Me, number 4. Smile, number 3. Black Phone, number 2. Weapons, and number 1, Obsession.

00:35:05

So your boys are into the horror genre?

00:35:07

Yeah, we love it.

00:35:07

Talk to you about Backrooms yet?

00:35:10

My, my younger son has seen it tomorrow. He can't wait. He's been waiting for, for months. He's telling me about the Backrooms lore. He knows all about it, dude. Your kids, your kids rock. Yeah, yeah. I started taking both of them like when my older one was a little bit younger and Well, we'll see like a really violent scene. He'll be covered. It's like, you open your eyes right now, you watch all of this.

00:35:27

So the Backrooms, Dave, I don't know if you're familiar with what the Backrooms are.

00:35:31

To give you a little bit of the lore, like, I don't even know. I just know I want to see this movie.

00:35:35

Okay, so imagine, I don't know if you've maybe, you know, stumbled across, uh, across this on social media or not, but there's like, imagine being in like a dream state where there's like a room but there really isn't an exit, and you're kind of like walking around and it looks like a, an office building with fluorescent lights, and you're just trying to find the exit and you can't. It's almost like Billy Crystal is there. All of a sudden Billy Crystal shows up, your wife's there, and you're like, whoa, did not consent to this. Where's the door? Long story short, in the Backrooms there is no door. It's like a maze that goes on for eternity of this, like, of this.

00:36:05

Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this.

00:36:07

It's, it's— I want to see it tonight with my wife. I'm trying to get the baby to get dropped off maybe at the, uh, at the grandma's house.

00:36:12

I'll go tomorrow with my son if he doesn't ditch me to go with a friend.

00:36:15

Uh, but I, we can report back next week, me and you.

00:36:18

Yeah. Okay, that's Backrooms.

00:36:19

If you're, if you're very interested in something that's a little bit Uh, it's not like horror, like jump scare, but it's more of a psychological horror, being stuck in somewhere you can't get out of. Hmm, maybe like JJ McCarthy in Minnesota.

00:36:30

So there you go, that is the list right there. Uh, want to leave you guys with a snippet from the latest South Beach Sessions, uh, as Dan, he did a sit-down with, uh, the comedian who's very hot right now, Rob Hoffman. Hey, all right, I want to go through the timeline and the biography. 9 siblings sounds crazy, like that sounds like a household that's nuts.

00:36:52

It's nuts.

00:36:53

What are the details that are worth sharing on what you remember of fighting for everything with 9 siblings?

00:37:00

I mean, it was really everything, you know. Popsicles came in boxes of 8. My mother only bought 1 box. We were 10 kids. So it's kind of like musical chairs with fucking popsicles, you know. At some point, 2 people didn't get. So it's like that, you know, unless it was a sheep— steep sale. On the popsicles, a 2-for-1, a BOGO. We weren't— she wasn't buying 2 boxes. So it's everything. It's my bathwater. It's, you know, I remember at 7 finally speaking to my mother and said, you know, I think I'm ready for my own bath. I can't take a bath with these animals. They're pissing. My brothers would piss. And I said, I'm 7 years old. I think it's, you know, great. I think it's fine. I have my own bath. Even 10 minutes. I'm not asking much. I can't shower with these animals. I mean, look at them. The penis is— it's just like another shower. I don't need this. It's like I'm not even getting clean in there. They're disgusting. So things like that. Just a ton of us being in the bath. My toothbrushes were really grimy. That sticks out. I remember we had like a blue sink.

00:38:08

You know, those old porcelain, you know, we moved into my great uncle Eddie's house. So um, nothing had been renovated, but my mother had like a jar of our toothbrushes and just the petri dish of the toothbrushes, you know, 15 toothbrushes, God knows. She was trying to swap them out, she always tried, but at a certain point, you know. So I don't know, it's hard to pinpoint, uh, specifics because the whole thing was different. That's why I say like, you know, in my relationship You know, Gabby and I both come— we're similarly cut in that we don't come from money. She grew up a little more, you know, marginally, you know, under better circumstances, but she was a military brat, moved around a lot. So, you know, it's a give and take. But yeah, dating outside of your class or how you grew up to me feels like a huge— dating outside of the faith for that reason, because If you both grew up poor or me, you know, stretching things, you understand the day in and the day out of that. It's a whole lifestyle. Versus if you grew up rich, it's like everything is different.

00:39:18

It's just a totally different world.

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