Transcript of The Big Suey: Greg Goes To The Bucket + Dan Orlovsky
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Welcome to the big Sui. Presented by DraftKings Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar.
Kirk Cousins is a better quarterback than Jim Kelly and Troy Aikman.
No doubt. We're doing this thing.
Can we not do this?
Are you going to do with he better than Drew Brees now? Can you look at Drew Brees's numbers?
I'll look at those. I mean, remember, he still looked it up.
Something tells me he was an excellent quarterback.
Well, I mean overrated. We can agree on that, correct? Can we not?
Yeah. Greg, he has half as many yards as Drew Brees.
How long do I have to revise this Kirk Cousin.
Trenched? Billy, you're fine. I didn't want it. Billy, he's got plenty of years left. Like if he wins a Super Bowl or two with those stats, he might get into the hall of Fame first ballot.
Kirk could have another 20 years in the NFL and not put together the career that Drew Brees had.
Drew Brees played 287 games. Kirk Cousins has 90.
Right?
I mean, he doesn't have I know, three times that left in him.
No, I think he does. You have quarterbacks playing into their late 30s, early 40s now, like you're fine. How old is Kirk Cousins?
35.
So maybe you got five more years.
Five more years. He's going to double the amount of yards he has for his career. It's impossible.
I mean, in today's NFL, he could throw for 6000 yards a season. 30,000 more yards right there.
He is about to pass Johnny Unitis for career yardage.
Johnny, you how about that?
Dad, what did you text me this morning? I woke up to a text from you about something with Advil and where it goes in your body transition.
I was curious because I'm not a person who takes a lot of Advil. And when I do, I generally take one Advil.
Not enough?
No. And I was complaining today because I had a stuffed ear that was giving me a headache and it hurt to cough. And your mother says take three or four Advil. So I took three. And I wondered, how does Advil or any aspirin know where the pain is and where to go in your body? I had never thought of that.
Targets the pain, though.
But how does it know where the pain is?
It's a good question.
I don't know.
Have you ever or does it send something throughout your entire body and just attacks whatever the pain is in the body? I don't think it's that.
I had never thought of it before.
No.
And nobody seems to really know the answer.
Did you put the Advil in your ear?
That would be funny.
Apply it right towards yeah. Exactly where the pain is.
Yeah.
No, I mistakenly swallowed it with water.
Well, do you feel better?
About 20 minutes later, I did feel better.
I love how you're discovering it. You're like advil. I put it in my medication, and then ibuprofen. Half hour later, I felt better.
I did.
It was a revelation.
What's the right amount of Advil to take if you're really in pain? I feel like it's four.
What?
That's a lot.
I think the normal dose is two and some people bump it up to three.
No.
Is aggressive.
No.
Some Advils now will say take one. But you have to also look at the milligrams, like how big or what the dosage is, and that'll tell you how many it takes. I was told in my head, by the voices in my head that what Advil does is it blocks off the pain receptors. So it kind of masks the feeling of pain.
You still have it, but what it.
Is is it's kind of, I guess, shutting off your ability to feel it.
I don't know if that's true or not.
Where are my pain receptors?
In your brain?
Yeah. What part of the brain?
Right. Hold on.
Which lobe are they in?
He's going to show you. Hold on.
Yeah, I think it's here.
Wow. Nice.
Okay.
What is Billy doing right now?
No idea. That's good. Being Billy. That's great.
He just pointed at Greg's forehead, the top Greg's forehead and just said, this is where they are.
I think that's where zero medical training.
Then why don't I feel the pain right here?
Because you took Advil.
Right?
No, but the pain no, because it was behind my ear before. It was not here.
Right.
Well, that's where the receptor is.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
I'm seeing on the Internet that pain.
Goes to that part of your brain.
Painkillers don't know where the pain is, but they only work on areas associated with inflammation, aka. Where pain usually is.
Got it.
So they attack inflammation.
It's seeking out that's an anti inflammatory does that correct? Yeah.
Billy, hear me out here, okay? Seven games in. Kirk Cousins has 2057 yards. Seven games in. Now make it 14 games if he stays healthy.
Okay, 14.
He's at, like, 4200 yards.
Why are we only playing 14 if he stays?
Well, I'm just saying that's halfway. I'm doing the math. It's an easy way for me to do the math, okay? And then tack on three more games. So 5000 plus yards.
Well, hear me out. He's never had 5000 yards in his career.
I know, but he's pacing right now. Okay? That's all I'm saying. I'm trying to help you out here.
But I want to abandon this. Take also, hear me out.
Drew Brees has thrown if you haven't looked it up already, has thrown for 80,000 yards, 571 touchdowns.
Right? Yeah. Overrated.
Pro Football Reference has a meter for potential hall of Fame.
Yeah, I was avoiding giving that information.
Yeah. The hall of Fame Monitor 43.65. The average hall of Fame quarterback is 103.5.
Yeah, I was avoiding giving so he's.
Half of a hall of Famer.
He's half of a hall of fame.
Career is only halfway there. Exactly. Right.
He's working on it. Guys, it's like you don't want good things for Kirk Cousins.
I don't understand.
I love.
No one does.
Kirk Cousins.
That's not true. Let's test this thing. Like who's a quarterback that has been hall of Fame worthy but for like one or two years to see if they are projecting. You know what I mean? Like if you're wilson.
Russell Wilson.
Yeah.
Where's he at?
Put Russell Wilson. Let's see where he's at.
I mean, right now he's playing his way out of the hall of Fame.
Yeah. I wonder if we let's Mark down what it is this year and then see if next year quietly having a good year.
By the way, he is Russell Wilson. Yeah.
Very quietly.
I know.
Last year was terrible.
His hall of Fame monitor is 84.17.
Wow.
It would appear do you think it was higher earlier? Roy said you have to be over 100.
Oh, yeah.
The average is 103.
Yeah, but average is I mean, that.
There'S way higher and way jim Kelly was like 65.
Right.
Different era, though.
More Super Bowl. I don't like that.
Where's that have matthew Stafford.
Great question. I love this great one. Yeah.
They both have Super Bowls, though, stafford and Wilson.
I'm more interested in a quarterback almost like Tua. Don't laugh. I'm just saying because he's having such a statistical great year early on in his career. Like, do they project it out? I don't know.
I'd be interested.
Hafford is at 72.84.
Wow. Really?
Lower than Russell wolves.
All right, check two up real quick.
Why are we just to see he.
Had a lot of good he had.
A lot of good.
It's a good game.
Years for bad teams in Detroit. Jared Goff, they should put him in.
The hall of Fame just for playing in Detroit.
Goff's 33.75.
Yeah, but he's on the way back.
Two has got to be below Kirk Cousins at this point, right?
They don't have it for him yet.
Oh, wow.
No, he's too early to call.
I just didn't know if they have to play a few years before. They don't try to project that early.
How many years, though? Like, do we know?
I love this game.
We don't know anything. We're all just reading the Internet together at the same time.
Gino Smith is inching his way towards the hall of Fame.
No, he is.
Absolutely.
He puts five more years like this together. I mean, can I ask you guys are you okay?
Can I ask you guys a question?
Are you guys he's not okay fighting through Lamar Jackson. Check it out, Roy.
Gino Smith is 9.6 in five years.
He'll be Kirk Cousins but he was.
Like 3.6 a year ago before last season. That's all I'm saying.
Are you guys excited about the Dolphins being on Hard Knocks in season?
Because I am not Lamar Jackson, by the way. 44.83.
What?
Because it's early. I get it.
Greg, are you excited for that?
It's a great choice. The Dolphins are such an interesting team. Mike McDaniel is probably the most fun head coach in the league. Tua, tyreek Hill, the team speed they have they just traded for Chase Claypool which has a little controversial element to it. They just have interesting stories all over that roster. So it's a great choice. I'm not a huge fan of Hard Knocks but that's a brilliant choice. I'm a little surprised they agreed to do it.
I don't think they have a choice.
I think they do have a choice. No, there's some rule where you don't have a choice if you've done it in the last X number of years and so maybe the Dolphins didn't have a choice because if they did I'd.
Be surprised if they I get why McDaniel wouldn't want know they're having a great year. It just throws another wrinkle in there.
Yeah.
It's a like from their perspective, I get not wanting it and I kind of like, billy, I think I'm just going to assume you're doing the let's not screw this up. Things are going well.
They're coming off of a loss that people are saying they're frauds and they're saying they haven't beat anyone now.
First episode might be a couple of weeks from now.
This seems like an unnecessary thing.
It's not something I would want.
But as a fan why aren't we excited?
No, you should be.
The crazy thing is as a Dolphins fan you would think like, I want to see my team, right. But I don't want to see the Dolphins. If I was a fan of another team I would want to see the Dolphins because it seems like this is probably an entertaining group. I don't want to be my team.
For midseason Hard Knocks.
Me neither.
I'm a big hard knocks guy. Never done midseason.
Nobody has.
I'm going to do it now and maybe that's what they're because they've done pretty boring ones the last couple of years. Colts who weren't good, Cardinals were bad last year. So this is the first time they're doing with a good team and I'm excited for it. I don't want it. Like if shit hits the fan and we end up not doing well then we're all going to look back and be like maybe that was it. So I don't like that. There's something else being thrown in that could affect us. But I'm good with this.
This is also a team that loves attention. Guys like Tyree Kill and Christian Wilkins, they love attention. And Mike McDaniel is so wonderful with the media. He will be good behind a camera in his office talking to another player. He'll be honest. He'll be funny.
It's an interesting team.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
It is. Absolutely.
According to the hall of Fame Monitor on Pro Football Reference, patrick Mahomes is not a hall of Famer.
What's his number?
86.28. And the average is 103.58.
I think you'll be all right.
I don't know. First ballot stats, man.
I don't know.
Can you get zero ballot?
That's what he'll be, a zero ballot hall of Famer.
The day he retires goes straight to the second he retires.
Joe Namath is in the hall of Fame. Anything is possible.
You're right. Most overrated quarterback in the history of the NFL. Broadway Joe. Fraudway Joe. Anyway. Greg I found it interesting. Oh, wow.
What does that mean? Tuesday.
Ben Rothlisberger is oh, he's just missing. His is 100.28. So Ben Roethlisberger, better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes.
He's in, though.
Before we finish this segment, greg Cody needs to go to the Bucket of Death. And let us remind you that the Bucket of Death is brought to you by KFC's new Hot and Spicy Wings. Order an eight piece of new hot and spicy wings for just 499 at participating KFC's today. It's finger licking good.
Wow. Why do you point at us when you do that?
I'm just so damn passionate about KFC.
Chris loves. I know you are.
He loves.
I eat it, like, four times a week.
It's great.
Yeah.
All right. Greg's going to the bucket. He's rummaging.
Oh, that's a good one. That's not a good one.
Oh, boy. We'll put it back.
Are they on a buy?
Carolina Panthers plus three.
They're hosting the Texans.
Put it back. They're owing six.
Greg DJ Strauss look good, but that might be their one.
That is a winnable game.
Might be their one.
It might not, though. What is that?
Oh, God.
What?
The Titans.
Titans?
They're hosting the Falcons. Two and a half.
Could be worse.
That's an upgrade.
All right, they're giving or getting?
They're getting two and a half.
Okay.
They have to win.
I got no choice.
Yeah.
Come on, Tannehill.
Chris, let's go to the stat of the day. What?
Let's do that.
Yes.
Stat of the day. Stat of the day.
Start of the day.
I put a lot on him. Our.
Roy was not the day.
I know that's.
Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day. Start of the day. Start of the day. It is the start of the day's.
Start of the day is brought to you by Venmo. Your money, your move.
All right. Adoles Garcia of the Rangers is the first player in Major League Baseball history to have a homer in three RBIs. Three plus RBIs in three consecutive postseason games.
Wow.
Yeah.
Hey, sneaky.
Good little finish here.
This baseball season, we see the Astros lose. Hopefully tonight we can see the Phillies lose. It won't be a great World Series, but we can see all the teams we hate lose.
Yeah, but I love the idea of a Diamondback Ranger World Series that no one wants to watch.
I know. I love it because you have a true Cinderella, by my definition in Texas, because they've won nothing. They've never won since 1972. I like that theater.
Lovsky.
Next, Don Lebotard.
It's been a lovely cruise. Oh, man. That's my outro. As my casket is being lowered jesus. I'll have been cremated a week before, but we'll do the casket thing just for show. And as my casket is being lowered empty casket. Yeah, close. Just for show.
Well, what's the redundancy there?
We're going to put on a public display.
Yeah, naturally. Stugats, what do you do with the ashes?
You're going on a lovely cruise.
Exactly. Maybe we'll throw them over. My wife will throw them overboard. I would assume nicking with her new husband.
This is the Dan Levatar Show with the Stugat.
I forget the food topic that we bonded over a few months back. You probably don't remember it. It was much more meaningful for me.
No, obviously, he's got a reputation.
It was one of your bland takes and I supported it.
Well, what was the take?
I don't remember. He's had so many brought it up.
You don't remember?
He's had so many great cookies.
Was it cookies? Oatmeal raisin?
I do love oatmeal raisin, so I'm.
With him on that as well.
That's a good cookie.
Well, what's your take on oatmeal raisin cookies? Like, you have a take there.
I just think they're significantly better than chocolate chip. I think chocolate chip cookies are like I agree.
Do you really?
Yes, absolutely.
What are you pointing at, Greg?
I'm agreeing with him. That's an overrated cookie. Chocolate chip.
Yeah. Everything has to be perfect. It's almost like a system quarterback. It's got to be the right temperature. The chocolate's got to be somewhat melted. Oatmeal raisin. You could pick it up if it's warm or if it's room temperature. It's go time.
Right.
Plus it's health food because you got.
Raisins right in oatmeal. That's the way you justify it?
Yeah.
Really? The two of you really eat 20 at a time.
You're good.
Wait, Chris, are you looking up your take?
I'm going to find it.
It was your take.
It was a while ago and we have a lot of takes, man. I'm going to find it, though. Do football until I do.
Dan, how many people walk into your office and think that you have a giant mural of Peyton Manning behind you.
And not realize that's you is that mankind?
It is mankind.
Mick Foley. That's unbelievable. Yeah. I think everybody actually walks into this office and thinks, I am and Peyton Manning the same person.
Billy, I'm going to do it to you. What? Billy thinks Kirk Cousins is a first ballot hall of famer. Do you agree?
Yeah, totally. Why not? No, obviously, I think Kirk's a good player. Has moments are really good. I actually became a little bit of a bigger fan of know post that whole quarterback thing on Netflix. The thing about Kirk, it's like the opposite of Dak Prescott in a like I feel everybody wants Dak Prescott to be the player that he is as a know. And so he's such a good guy and has such an incredible reputation. They're like, well, he's such a great player. No, he's just been good for his career. And Kirk is so uniquely and I say this in admiration dorky and Ned Flanders ish that everyone's like, well, he can never be a good player because he's so first battle hall of famer person but not football player.
No. Well done.
I have to ask you, I was so blown away by your just was I'm just going to beg you to just answer this one question as Stephen A. Smith, if you would. Biggest disappointment team so far this NFL season and the most pleasant surprise team.
The biggest disappointing team is the I got to go to Detroit lions. The Detroit Lions. The expectations. Jerk goff and jerk goff and you so I just say that because last week Stephen A. Had him as the number one team in the yeah. And he would say like the biggest surprise the Minnesota Vikings because they won last night.
Prisoner of the moment is what you're.
Mean. We're all victim to it. I always make fun of him when he says he goes his top five teams in the NFL. I'm like, you just picked the five good teams that won last weekend. That's kind of the model. If I was Stephen A. His most disappointing team this year, he would know knowing how Stephen A. Is and he's unbelievable at his job. He would pick like a team that's good but not good enough. Right? Like, maybe he would probably go like the just disregarding the Aaron Rodgers injury. And then he said his biggest surprise would be like, not the Kansas City Chiefs. We would all be like, what?
You're not going to answer it, though? I think Greg wanted you to answer, like your answer in Stephen A's voice.
All right.
My answer you're not a piano bar.
I mean, you're just not my most surprising team in the NFL this year. In a good way. Like, say in a good way. Not in a disappointing way yet. My most surprising in a good way, baltimore. I go by divisions because I got a small brain. So it's like by divisions, you know what I'll say? The Los Angeles Rams, even though they lost last weekend, I still think the Rams are going to be in the conversation. I honestly thought that they would be in the conversation for, you know, like, hey, Matthew, I know there were trade conversations, whether it came from the Rams or other they they are still a really competitive football team and even they lose last weekend. But it's more know Pittsburgh made some plays at the end of the game. I think the Rams are going to be in the conversation. I really do. Getting into December, I don't know if I'm saying no question playoff team, but I do believe that they're going to be into that playoff football team conversation. Most disappointing right now. I still say the giants. And I love Brian Dable. I'm a massive fan of Brian Dable.
I thought that Daniel would play better than he did last year. I thought the offensive line would be better. The waller. Trade. He would be featured in their offense. We haven't seen that. Now there's questions, are they better with Tyrod Taylor than Daniel? The defense is finally playing. I had thought that they would have the chance to contend for a playoff spot or be the second best team in that division. And even though they won last week and I still sit there and I go, I'm surprised that they're not better.
I found it. It was Dan saying that you don't have to take a shower right when I get out of the pool every time and I was like, yeah, I'll shower later this evening.
The pool is a shower, right.
People were shaming it. It was just a total reasonable take by Dan.
Yeah, I remember that one. We just closed the pool yesterday. So can't do that anymore. Going to have to shower pretty readily now.
How do you feel about peeing in the pool?
Let it ride, baby.
I'm not a huge fan of it, to be honest with you. Obviously, I've done it many a times. I've done it as an adult.
But when you do it you're like, I'm not feeling good about myself right now.
Also why you need to take a shower.
Fair point. But chlorine salt kill that, right. Better point, to be honest with you. Ever since the movie grownups and Kevin James has the moment when he pees in the pool and the blue stuff gets out, I always let a little bit out and just to see like, all right, is that a real thing? And then if not, I'll let it fly.
Painful game.
Yeah, it is.
You don't want to be that person.
Have you ever washed your hair in the pool like me?
You're so weird, dad.
With soap.
Yeah. Not a public pool.
You're getting soap in the pool after.
Around a golf or shampoo. This man has jumped into the pool after around a golf and then just has shampoo right there.
Sounds great.
I love you. Yeah.
A little dollop of shampoo.
I feel like you do that in a lake, though. Not a pool. Little Dabble. Do you all works? Yeah.
I would probably shy away from that one. You know what one thing I don't get about people in pools? How often people and more often than not they look like me. Let their dogs just swim in the pool.
It's a great take. You're right. Yes.
What kind of dog they're like, oh, the dogs are in the pool. I'm like, that's disgusting. They're going to shed all over the place. Your kids are going to jump in or you're going to jump in. You're going to have dog hair all over you.
House is going to get gross.
It's gross, man. I don't get it.
But urine's not anyway, Dan, before we.
Get back to football, I need to ask you about Fessy.
I can't look at you. Why.
Are you a Challenge purist or do you watch the Spinoffs? Did you watch the challenge, USA? Because I really want to talk to you about haven't I haven't seen the.
Last season or two of the Challenge. I know Fessy became I saw him trending like a week or two. I think I want to say slam ball guy now. Like legit slam ball.
Yeah.
He plays for some team. At had a he had another classic. Fessy Blunder in the final on the challenge USA. Where you win an advantage, you get to take a shortcut. He did not win the advantage, took the shortcut anyways, and then he ended up getting eliminated in the final yet again.
Did he take the shortcut unknowingly or did he do it like thinking he could get away with it?
No, he did it because he's Fessy and he didn't realize that he was going the wrong way. So he ran an extra mile and a half in the wrong direction and then they sent him back. He got eliminated.
Shocker. Shocker. All bark. No my. I don't know the dude, obviously, but he's the classic person on that show of talk is so much bigger than the actual result.
Wow.
Dan, you said yesterday that the Browns should reach out to the Vikings regarding Kirk Cousins. And I am wondering, have you changed? Like, Kirk Cousins is not going anywhere now. Right.
I don't know. If you're Minnesota and you're trying to have foreshadowing and look at the future, I think Minnesota's biggest question going forward, and I said this two weeks ago, is like, how do they keep you know, that's going to be their biggest challenge. And I don't believe that they are going to be able to do it just because of money. Everyone's going to pay Justin Jefferson if he ever gets to the market. So it's not we'll give him a contract. Anyone is going to do that. So I think for Justin Jefferson, at least if I was him, I'd go, well, I want to know who's going to be the quarterback here and who's going to be the quarterback for the long term. And he might sit there and say, well, I'm cool with it being Kirk Cousins. He might not, I don't know. But Minnesota do they organizationally want that? And so I sit there and I go like, that's more important than where they are right now with Kirk Cousins or can they become a fringe playoff team? They have to figure out what's the plan at quarterback for the future. Now, maybe organizationally, they sit there and say the plan is to resign Kirk Cousins and if that's going to keep Justin Jefferson, great.
So I just say if you're one of those teams, you have to call. I don't know the likelihood of it. And I know that Kirk has the no trade clause. I'm aware of all that. But if the vikings have made up the decision that, well, we're not going to pay kirk the x amount of dollars, that likely he's going to command, or we want to go younger because of where kirk is in his career or whatnot? Then it's reasonable to think if another team calls, like the Cleveland Browns and everyone I'm aware of Deshaun Watson's contract. I know there's a gajillion dollars left for his contract. He's not going anywhere. But he's not playing good and he's not healthy right now. And so this is a football team that can run the ball. They're really well coached. I'm a huge Kevin Stefanski guy. Their defense is off the charts. Good. Make the call and see if there's even a 5% chance of at least starting the conversation and seeing what it would potentially cost.
A quick question about high draft quarterbacks. Number one, is it time to say maybe the Dolphins didn't make a mistake taking Tua ahead of Justin Herbert, and to the present day, CJ. Stroud looking better than Bryce Young? Is it too soon to say Carolina maybe made a mistake?
Yeah, I think it's too soon. But it is very fair to say that CJ. Is playing significantly better than now. I don't usually when I talk about quarterbacks, I'll be like, man, this guy's got really good help around them. This guy doesn't. I don't know if Houston has that much more help around CJ. Stroud than Bryce Young does. I do think Nico Collins is playing awesome and Tank Dell is playing awesome. Obviously, Dalton Schultz has become a good player, but they've lost some people on their offensive line. He's played with backup offensive linemen. Like you could just cut on CJ. Stroud's tape. I've said, CJ. Looks like a young Joe Burrow with the way that he's seeing it, the way that the ball is coming out of his hands, the different types of throws, the placement of those throws. So I think it's okay for us to be like, yeah, right now CJ. Looks like the better player. I still think Bryce is going to be a very good pro. And I said this when I called her game, like 36 month window. Here's the thing with Tua and Justin Herbert. I was team Tua from the jump.
I've always been team Tua, calling their games in college and just watching how they played the position. I thought, like like he had this PhD in quarterbacking. I think the difference with where they are in their careers right now justin's a superstar talent superstar and it's had tons of highs in the NFL. Tua superstar talent, they're different players. Stylistically. The thing that I do think Tua has that Justin doesn't have right now and it shows itself is Tua has the ability to be way more feel based in football, way more nuance based, meaning I know, like, move that defender and throw it before he's actually moving to a window that's going to be there. The different type of trajectory on throws. Justin and this was my sticking point with Justin Herbert in college, and it hasn't necessarily changed a ton, is while he's remarkably physically talented, there is a little bit of robotics to his game. If you watch a ton of his throws, I call them flat. Like, everything it feels like is like each year from right field. And sometimes it's like, I needed 10% less of juice on that ball to get it there or that right throw.
So still think Justin's a superstar? Dude, I just think Tua has got a little bit more quarterback feel and nuance to his game. That kind of separates him for me.
All right, we'll have one more segment here with Dan Orlovsky. We'll do it right after this.
Don Lebotard, god doesn't even know what this list he was ahead of Tom Brady, who also won a playoff game.
A couple that was literally the most confusing list we've ever done.
Tebow's got a better shot of coming.
I want to leave Stugats. This would have been your day. You should own the sports media landscape right now.
I am top seven guys. I would not want the jet.
No, you no, I'm not allowing it. Give me no, I'm not giving him a chance.
Giving him 20 years.
Carson what? I've given him my pride. This is the Don Levitar show with the stugats.
All right, we're back with Dan Orlovsky, who was telling us funny stories about Jeff Saturday, who is a cruel individual. Dan, please share this please share that audience. Please share with the audience the story you just told us about the former head coach of the Indianapolis Gulf.
Former head coach. I love it. You guys asked me, like, do people walk into the office and think this is a giant mural of Peyton Manning? And I'm like, yeah, everyone thinks I'm Peyton Manning. And I was like, I love when Saturdays on Tuesday morning get ups and he'll kind of talk about 2011. Peyton didn't play. Oh, my gosh, we were terrible that year. And I'm like, Jeff, I was the starter in five of those games. Can you have some sympathy towards the quarterback that was there with you?
Has he stopped doing it's?
It's almost like every Tuesday. I feel like it's a strategic thing from Jeffer. Hey, remember when Peyton didn't play in the Colts and we sucked?
Right. It's so great. Help me out with this. Kyle Shanahan seems to be a coach that avoids criticism. Why?
Because he's awesome and he's taken so many different styles of players and been really good with them and really successful with them. Think about it. He's taken RG three. Obviously RG three is an amazing talent, but RG three rookie of the year and Washington was all of a sudden somehow into a high level conversation playoff football team. And then he's taken Kurt Cousins and led that to become a playoff football team. And then even in Cleveland, he had Johnny Menzel being like, maybe Johnny Menzel is going to become a good player in the NFL. There was like a six week stretch where he started to play good. And then he goes to Atlanta with Matt Ryan and takes him as an MVP and they go to the Super Bowl, and then he goes to San Francisco and he's taken like these guys that I guess outside of Matt Ryan didn't have. Again, RG three is a high draft pick, but RG three took the NFL by storm. Kirk Cousins was a fourth round pick, had become like a really good starter. Johnny, manziel, I talked about that stretch. Matt Ryan won MVP and goes to the Super Bowl.
Jimmy Garoppolo, a second round pick, goes to the Super Bowl. And then now Brock Purdy, he wins a ton. Whether as an assistant coach or a head coach, he's taken a bunch of different quarterbacks and made them really good. The creativity of their offense is always incredibly unique. So I think that sometimes he gets criticized in the playoffs. Excuse me, but the proof is in the pudding, man, he could coach Dan.
I thought Hard Knocks in season made a perfect choice with the Miami Dolphins. Is there a team that you find even more interesting that you'd like to see on that show?
I agree. I think the Dolphins, because know how big their season is going to be. It looks like. And then, obviously, Mike McDaniel and Tua and Tyree kill. I don't think there's a team that I find more interesting or more willing to be interesting. I think a lot of teams in the NFL can be interesting. I don't know how many of them are willing to be as interesting as we want them to know. And it's comfortable. Like, Mike McDaniel comes off as wildly comfortable in who he is and what's he about. I would have thought maybe the Rams because of how young some of their stars are and how well they're playing. Jacksonville, although Trevor is so buttoned up. Like, Trevor not that two is not buttoned up, but Doug Peterson's really buttoned up. Trevor Lawrence is really buttoned up because I think Jacksonville is going to be in the conversation as this season goes on. Maybe Cincinnati, just because I'm huge borough guy. But I think Miami is going to be a fascinating watch what happened to.
Your Lions over the weekend?
They got their butts kicked.
They did. And Dan Campbell loved it. Dan Campbell loved it. And that's what I love about Dan Campbell.
Football happened.
Yeah. Here's my thing. When last week everyone was saying that they were the best team in the like, I think they're a good football team. I think they're a really good team. I think they can kind of play and beat anybody, but say they're the best team in the NFL was a little bit ridiculous to me. Just as if we're being real and not trying to take wise. Jared had been playing awesome. The offensive line had been playing. Here's what happened. The offense could not get a first down. They couldn't get into any form of a rhythm play calling wise because they couldn't gather a first down. I think, second of all, defensively almost looked like they weren't even prepared for, like, their first touchdown. It's fourth and one. Lamar could have scored from a thousand yards. We didn't have any eyes on Lamar or responsibility. And their pass rush got a little exposed from Baltimore's offensive line. So they just got whooped. And it snowballed. That happens. I don't think that the Lions were exposed. I just think they caught the Ravens on a really good day, and they played about as bad as we've seen them play in a year.
All right, we're going to get you out of here. We appreciate the time. Peeing in the shower, yes or no?
Absolutely.
Thank you. Right. Sometimes if you're not taking a shower correct, you just pee in the shower. What?
I've done that.
We've all done it.
You want to know a really interesting shower thing to me? And I don't get it. And Marcus tells me it's like a cultural thing. When I go to obviously we travel a ton. You're at this hotel. Marcus brings sandals to shower. I just step in the shower. Yeah. He will not step in a public, like, a hotel shower unless he has his sandals with him. So he travels with sandals, shower shoes, flip flops to go shower on, and he thinks it's disgusting. If I shower in the Marriott hotel, it's weird.
People are peeing in the shower.
Definitely. There.
It's my feet. I'm not licking my feet.
Is it a part of your body?
Yes, but I don't really touch it ever.
You go in there without sandals? Roy, come on.
Come on, Roy.
I'm not using shower shoes. I'm just saying I understand his concept.
I don't you understand, but do you.
Look at me as less of a person if I don't wear shower shoes?
No, I'm saying I understand what he's talking about.
What's the Halloween costume this year for Danolofsky?
Oh, we don't have one. This is the first year our kids are kind of, like, too cool for school. That sucks. Yeah. They're eleven now, so they think they're 25 years old. So I don't have one, but I just steal their candy.
All right. Hey, we appreciate the time, man. Thank you for doing this. We'll talk to you soon.
Later.
All right, later.
Greg.
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