Transcript of Hour 2: The Aaron Rodgers Documentary

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So that was chaotic. Mhmm. And we've had some tension in the room here because, Mike Ryan and Amin, a real fight broke out. A real I'm defensive about basketball. How dare you say hockey has become more important than basketball?

We all got, you know, uncomfortable around them shouting at each other. It escalated to m f for no reason whatsoever. Can we get a mean? Mike has left. I don't know where he is.

I hope this doesn't spoil the holiday party that it doesn't seem anyone wants to go to. And, and and Amin Amin is still here. He's flown in like he was in Vegas, and and he cares deeply about, his sport. His sport is under attack, man. Like, it's it I Adam Silver, it wasn't that long ago that he was the leader of all leaders, and he knew what, how to be progressive in ways that would make the sport evolve.

And since then, basketball has been used as a political tool for its social commentary. And if you go woke, you go broke, NBA. You did all the social justice stuff, and now look at your ratings and look at how everyone says it's 3 pointers or something else. Amin is defensive about his sport for good reason. Like, he cares deeply.

He cares more than most of the people consuming it.

Yeah. I mean, I would say I care deep. I I don't wanna compare, but I think the problem is many of the arguments are straw man arguments. They're they're they're red herrings that you guys are following.

Straw man.

Yeah. I thought we had that sounder. For example, I'll give you an example, Dan. You mentioned it yesterday when I was on on the show briefly, but the Bulls and the Hornets played a game where 75 missed 3 pointers. And everybody was like, oh my god.

This is why the NBA sucks. And I said, okay. So the the headline is 2 horrible teams play against each other and play in a horrible game, and that's what we're judging the sport on. Right? Right?

That's what we're doing? Why don't we judge it off Raiders, Panthers, and NFL? Like, we we could do this across the board. There are bad teams in every sport and bad teams play bad games. The reality is everyone who's crying about the lack of a mid range shot in the NBA or or the the demise of that mid range shot is.

You look around the league. Does Steph Curry shoot mid range shots? Yes or no?

Occasionally. Not

occasionally. He shoots quite a few.

If you chase up.

Kevin Durant?

Yes.

Devin Booker. Yeah. Jimmy Butler.

Sure.

Jayson Tatum. Mhmm. Jaylen Brown. Yep. Luka Doncic.

Yeah. Kyrie Irving.

Yes.

Okay. So it seems to me the mid range shots we got rid of was from the Eric Snows of the world. That's what you guys are missing.

Carlos Boozer.

You're yeah. You're missing all these guys who I do miss Eric Snow.

I have to be honest with you. Yeah. You're not certain if it's gonna go in the guy might have to

You're pretty you're pretty certain it's not gonna go in. Right.

Stugats, you missed the top

But you

got your 8 assists, I mean.

Stugats, you missed the the Tyrone Hill pick and pop 18 footer?

Yeah. I did. Yeah.

You missed Kurt Thomas on the baseline?

I do, actually. Yes. Money. Yep.

You don't have Haslam? Remember when he learned how to shoot? Yeah. See, like, Dan, that's the mid range shots that got legislated out of our game. Because basically what we told every role player is, hey, either you're gonna make a 3 to spread the defense out so that Luca and Steph and Kevin Durant can do these amazing things that we all actually paid to see.

We wanna see those guys do amazing things. So you need to stand out there at the 3 point line so the defenders can't just sag and sit right there and help. Or you're gonna be an amazing athlete who's gonna catch lobs and dunks like Clint Capela and and Rudy Gobert and all these guys that just exist for an alley oop, in case someone tries to collapse. What we got out of the game was all the people we didn't wanna see shoot shooting. That's what we got.

Now are you gonna have nights where people shoot poorly? Yeah. That's the game. But, like, to to base it all on 1 thing like that to me, the NBA doesn't have a a 3 point problem. It doesn't have a load management problem despite what you guys were ridiculous to talk about earlier.

The NBA has is a marketing problem. We don't know how to market our game in a way that's that's salient. I just came back from Vegas, the NBA Cup. You know who there was an abundance of with great access to everything? Influencers.

And that's awesome. These people have millions of followers. They get millions of views on Instagram. You know what the NBA has not yet learned how to monetize? The internet.

Right? So if we say, hey. The way we make our money, more than anything, is people watching on TV. Let's market to the number 1 audience that doesn't watch TV. That's what we're doing.

And I'm, like, that's the part where we're behind, or maybe we're ahead. Maybe the NBA says, look, in the future no one's gonna watch TV, and then we'll have the more market cornered. For sure. But right now, our metrics for success are not measuring the things that we are going after, and that's your problem. It's not wokeness.

It's not load management. It's not 3 pointers. It's not any of that.

Yes. Still super defensive.

Yep. Mhmm. More defensive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He is, put it on the pulse, please, Juju. Juju, do you miss the Tyrone Hill pick and pop 18 footer? Mhmm.

How about the Kurt Thomas baseline, Jay? I mean

I have a solution. I I've seen a lot of people the last few weeks doing the topic of, like, how can we fix basketball?

And I'm

gonna play the game. But I

have 1.

I have

1 that I haven't heard.

Let's do it.

You miss 4 straight 3 pointers, power play for the other team.

Wow. I love it.

1 guy leaves the court for a full minute.

I mean, this is a dangerous area. When Billy Chris and Stugats try to fix your sport when they when they try to fix your sport with rule changes, this is a terrible place for your sport to be.

Well, Amin doesn't get to decide for me why basketball is no longer as popular for me as it used to be. Okay? You don't get to do that. I am telling you that when I go to games, I never go to games. But if I went to a game, I have questions as to who's gonna be playing in that game, and then the style of play is not something I'm a fan of.

I don't like 54 threes a game. I don't like it. In fact, you should be limited to 23 attempts per game, and that's it.

What? 23?

That would no. 20.

No. 20. 23.

20 threes. I thought you said 23.

I was

doing a Jordan homage.

Yeah, Jordan. Now we are trying to change the rules. Greg Cody came to me before the show and he said to me, 3 should be twos and 2 should be threes. I agree with that. I do.

He wants a 3 point layup.

Yes.

So so, Greg, let me pitch you this. Maybe it's too gimmicky for Greg Cody, but let me give it a try. I

mean, 2 threes threes or 2.

So in base well, I got 1 better than that. So watch this. In baseball Wow. What's the whole what's how far is a home run from home plate?

It depends on the park.

Depends on the park.

From 312 feet to 412 feet.

Right? And and we could say that some teams have players that benefit greatly from the way the park is designed. Right?

Yeah.

What if the 3 point line was subjective by by NBA arena? So if I'm Milwaukee, Giannis gets a lot of stuff in the paint, I'm putting the 3 point line right there in the paint. Wow. If I'm Golden State, I'm, like, no. No.

I want it as far as possible. And now you there's a little bit of strategy when you go from building to building. Hey, how many threes are we taking?

What about the power play thing?

I like the power play thing. I'm not gonna lie.

How are you getting how are you getting sucked into the fixed basketball conversation with ridiculous rules?

How about this? The paint

is a ball pit.

How has Amin gotten sucked into having the conversation about how to fix basketball when he doesn't agree that anything other than the marketing has to be fixed?

Because, Dan, I don't mind rule changes. It does. Like, this is it. Thank you. Our game has changed rules more than probably any of the other sports.

May maybe not football in the last 10 years. Those guys are going crazy.

I mean, Dan thinks we're doing this wacky thing when we try to change the rules. He laughed at the golden at bat. Now they're seriously considering the golden at bat. We're not doing anything wacky. We're trying to improve the sports that we love.

That's all.

Save the sports summer. Alright.

So, let's let's Even

though influencers were there.

3 point layup.

Let's put a bookmark in it. Thank you. So good.

Both of you.

That's perfect show right there. Billy, influencers and then Greg Cody coming in over the top.

Don't you think it would be great if points in the paint counted as 3?

I don't wanna do this right now.

A Skyhook?

Alright. Just hold on to it. We'll get back to it. I gotta go out to stoic Roy. I've gotta continue our toy drive.

You guys forgot that we're still doing this today. Thank you. The Roy Drive. Mhmm. We want, an assortment of new and unwrapped gifts.

We will be out there tomorrow again. Dolphin Mall, 111401, Northwest 12th Street.

New

toys. Let's go out here to Roy. We're gonna be here tomorrow as well, and we're telling you, we, we're taking, gifts 7 AM to 2 PM, Monday through Friday this week. Corner coffee here at the Elser, and I will match whatever, toys it is that we get. Let's check-in again with Roy.

Roy, give us an update there. I see that, you are resplendent with more toys than you had before as people come, from all over America to give you toys. How's it going out there?

Well, it's much, much better now. We have gone from 2 toys to about, what seems to be about 15 right now. So we have, gained some traction on the toy drive or the Roy drive as you like to call it.

Mhmm. Is Rose there? Can it become a Rose drive? Is that Rose doing that in the background? It is Rose.

Rose is, you wanna bring her over? You wanna help produce your own segment there, Roy? You wanna help,

wait a minute. Back

or something? Or you wanna wait, for a bunch of, tea a team of enablers to come and help Santa Roy be better at producing here. Thank you, Rose.

Doing the bell. Yeah.

Right. It was Rose doing the bell. Festive. Festive. Yes.

The bell. Thank you, Rose. Roy, can you, please ask Rose to give us an update on how things are going out here if she can't hear me? How things are going out there at the toy drive?

It's going great. We're cheering here, Roy, with

Can you get low can you get lower, Rose?

We can see your head.

We can't see you.

There we go.

Thank you. Yes, Roy. You're you're too high.

Yes. Know.

Yes. We can see you now. You're dressed like an elf. It's wonderful. Yes.

Thank you. What yeah. Give us give us a toy drive update, please.

It's going great. We've seen a lot of people, so we need more people to come because, we need more gifts. But it's going great. We we we we're having fun. Right, Roy?

Right? Sure. Yeah.

I have a new nickname for Roy this week only. Can I unveil it? Roy jinglebell me.

I like it.

Thank you.

I do too. So does Roy. Thanks, Greg.

You get it, Dan?

You're welcome, Roy. Alright.

No. It's too complicated. It's, gone over my head. Alright. Rose and Roy, any, any final words here from the Roy Drive as you go up here, 18 more minutes, a grueling day out in Dolphin Mall on the cusp of the Everglades.

Your goal is first.

Please come tomorrow as we continue in the toy drive. I heard that Billy might be the 1, in, the Santa costume that's, that's

Roy, your mustache is falling off, and you haven't done a good job of producing this segment, and you heard wrong. Thank you for all your good work out there. Appreciate your effort. Yes.

Well, Billy's not showing up?

Alright. Thank you. I don't know. Beard. I don't know.

We we have to talk to Billy. Roy, an excellent job producing yourself and Rose there as if you've never done radio or television before. I I appreciate all your hard work out there. Yes. Excellent broadcasting.

Come back home for the holiday party. I'm sure you won't drink too much of the free liquor. Come on back.

You never know.

No. I'm pretty sure I do know. I'm pretty sure I do know that you will drink too much of

the free liquor. Christmas tree Rollins.

I like

it. Yeah. That's really good.

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Don Libertard. We didn't get to your guys' against this spread. You're right.

You're right.

You're right, dude. I don't have it against this spread Oh, well. Because I wasn't prepared for this segment. You didn't

get any in your life.

You have actively played defense against me today in a way that, has rarely been this undercutting.

Stugats. Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business.

This is the Don Levittar show with the Stugats.

I wanna do a couple of things with you guys.

Frosty the Snowman. Oh.

We need Jeremy to keep working said? On those, yes, those, those Christmas songs. Cody, your podcast, The Greg Cody Show featuring Greg Cody

With, thank you Fine. Has I

can call him Miami legend, Alonzo Mourning.

I think he is.

Yes. Of course, he is.

Yeah. He is.

Yeah.

And and and he he's gone through a really rough year, with health issues, and he's been very forward and and out front with talking about what he's gone through. And we talked to him about it at length on the podcast. It's actually a pretty serious interview. We get nutty and everything because Christopher's a part of it, and he's asking inane questions that upset, Zoe.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure Zoe hated me.

Yeah. But but, still, it was a good interview.

Well, I think you guys probably experienced when he says interviewed at length, there is no other kind of interview with Alonzo Moore. He's a bit wordy.

He can be. That's the beauty of editing. We tighten it up.

Okay.

What'd you ask him? Just just give us 1 tease.

What did you ask him that that he didn't prefer? Because

Greg. Morgan. No. But Greg this is the Greg's setting his son up. Greg

No. He's not setting

me up. He has an uncle.

Greg, how do you not know how to promote what's your on your own podcast and you have to go, son, what did we do? Like a doddering old man.

Yeah. You'd think that he would have been prepared to answer that rather than make an issue of the fact that I had asked.

I am prepared. I just we're making fun of you because you can't answer it.

But Greg, what was the best thing on your podcast? Please don't outsource that. Please answer the question as the host of your own podcast.

The best thing on my podcast was Alonzo Mourning talking very emotionally and about how terrified he was thinking he was dying and and all that he went through and and why he's coming forward now to alert people to do the same and to get checkups and to be aware of their health. He he talked a lot about, you know, the Overtown Youth Center that he founded 20 years ago and about his work in Miami to promote, affordable housing in areas that need it, and and it's a very good interview.

And then he was also going around his office showing pictures with Obama and just all these people, and I was like, oh, these are all great pictures. Where's the sad photo with you and Jason Caponeau?

Yeah. He didn't like that.

He didn't like that. He was like, I don't I don't associate with sad.

That was a question, though.

Well It's very

good. It's a very good question. You think so you think it's a good question to ask Alonzo Mourning to insult a teammate by saying, hey, that Jason Gabbana who stunk.

I Well, I was just more like, hey, you have all these fun ones. What's the saddest 1? Yes. Right. I imagine it it's Jason

Gabbana. Right?

I am

not, Alonzo Mourning. Not really a laugher.

Well, he doesn't associate with sad either.

He was he Kind

of in the middle there.

We caught him in a good mood. I think I think he's he's in a good mood. Yeah.

It's hard to tell where you stand with Zo. I I mean, I'm just saying something.

Think it is hard to tell. Really? I think you better be careful. Yes. Yes.

I think, yes, I think I think Alonzo Mourning over the years has earned the reputation as somebody who can be very stern and serious, and, you be careful. Don't insult him, by being too playful. He's like, playful is not really his not playful among teammates, maybe. Playful among journalists, not so much.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's fair. Do you think Zo would like the 3 point layup? Or Oh, good question.

Did you ask that? Yeah. No. You know what? Damn it.

I didn't. Ugh.

Get him back on.

Man. Can I get some, sound here to help Greg Cody promote, podcasts in general? The comedian Andrew Santino is on this week's edition of South Beach Sessions. He is, climbing very quickly up of comedy ranks, and he has gotten popular friends with famous people, the Kelseys. He has become friends with Patrick Mahomes, and he is a Bears fan.

And his fellow Bears fan fans are yelling at him for, rooting for the Chiefs. They say he cannot root for the Chiefs, so he's got something to say to them on the recent edition of South Beach Sessions.

No. But he get I get so much crap for for cheering on Kansas City because everyone online you're a Bears fan. You're a Bears fan. And let me say this to your audience. I am a Bear.

I'm a diehard Chicago fan for the rest of my life. Okay? But you go get yourself 2 hall of fame Super Bowl champion friends. Go get 2 of go get 2 of them, and then you tell me you're not gonna root for their team a little bit. Okay?

Okay? It pisses me off when people are like, it's pretty unfair. Sell out. Sell out. 2 of my friends are hall of fame current players.

What are you? I'm not gonna root for them with talking about?

You need to not be friends with them so that you can only root for the Bears.

That's That's an insane like, this is an ideology that I think America still has where they're like, you can't do that. You sell out. You cross it over there. Really?

The fans are right. I mean, they should be outraged. Not a Bears fan.

Plus his friends aren't technically in the hall of fame yet. I mean, that's being a little presumptuous.

Yes.

Which 1 of them do you know do you not see going to the hall of fame?

Either? Either of them.

What? They got a long way to go. They are

playing a ring.

Gonna win a couple of more, rings.

Uh-huh. They don't have a long way to go. They'd both be in the hall of fame if their careers ended today.

We'll see about that.

Oh, I Although,

if their careers ended today.

Oh, I like that.

I like this spin on the screen.

I would dead on this 1, Greg.

They would both be in the hall of fame.

From the day.

No. Not 5 years from the day. If career ended today, they should walk straight to the hall of fame. They're not even take off their uniform. Just walk straight to the hall of fame, both of them.

How about Russell Wilson if career ended today? Oh. Because he played his way in and then out, but now he's had another Yeah. Good season.

He's getting

you mad. Him though.

What do

you think, Dan? Billy, thank you

for bringing that up. I do appreciate it. Let's talk about that Aaron Rodgers documentary.

You guys watch that yet or what?

No. I see it every weekend.

I, I Dan, you like documentaries. We know this. I, I find myself falling for the traps of the documentaries. So I I texted 2 people. I I saw that the Aaron Rodgers 1 came out yesterday.

I was like, well, it's gonna be a talking point. I should probably watch this. But it's 3 parts, and I started watching at 9:30 at night, which is usually when I fall asleep. So I knew it was gonna be a task to watch all 3 episodes last night, but I texted 2 different people. When I started, I go, I'm mentally preparing myself to like Aaron Rodgers when this is done, because that's how these documentaries always go.

You always end up thinking, like,

oh, you know, Joe Exotic

is really not that bad a guy. And it's, like, well,

he kind of is.

So, like, all these documentaries make you sympathetic towards the person and then, like, somewhat liking them at the end. So I went in there saying, I'm probably gonna like Aaron Rodgers when this is done. Not that I dislike him now. I'm just like, I feel like it's gonna be very pro Aaron Rodgers. I kinda feel bad for him.

What?

Like, watching it.

Yeah. The family stuff?

It just and you guys can watch it, and I'm not gonna give you too much information. It's incredible access. And I also realized no 1 is living life without a camera crew around them anymore in 2024 because this starts pre Jet's injury. Like, Like, he already had the camera crew there. He was already doing stuff before he got injured.

And then you're kind of are then following him as he got injured through his recovery, then you're kinda going back in time, learning about how he kinda came up through the ranks, had to play to junior college, all that stuff.

So the project started when he joined the Jets?

It started, like, right before he joined the Jets, I think. And so I don't think this necessarily was supposed to be how it went, but it became this other thing. And then it's broken up into, like, 3 different episodes, and each episode is, like, a different story that they're telling about Aaron Rodgers. So far, 2 episodes in, like, 2 and a quarter in because I fell asleep in a 3rd. I feel bad for him in and it's not the way that you think.

I feel bad for him in that, like, he doesn't seem happy. Like, it seems like he spent his entire life wanting 1 thing, and that was to, you know, get to the n f it was to get to division 1 school, then it was to get to the NFL, then it was to win the Super Bowl. And he did all of that. And then there just seemed to be, like, an emptiness in him. And now he's just spent the rest of his life trying to fill that feeling and chase, like, meaning, really.

So it's kinda sad because he's accomplished all this stuff and seems to still think he's not enough, and he's not really doesn't have this meaning in his life. And he's just kinda seeking it out and searching it in all these different areas.

I would assume just based on watching a public meltdown that doesn't have any precedent for me in terms of how a superstar has disintegrated for years into being 1 thing then becoming something else. I have thought watching from afar as his family stuff has become uniquely public for an athlete, that part of the problem at every turn is that joy is only so joyous if it isn't shared with people. Like, if he's having trouble with his relationships with women and he's having trouble navigating fame and he doesn't have his family to share any of it with, like, who's Aaron Rodgers sharing love with? They're gonna be friends and stuff, but the journey he's taken over the last few years, I don't know how I don't know who those friends are, what they look like, or how distorted his entire life has gotten because he's gotten sort of brain fried, Internet rot brain. And I don't know who's telling him much of anything about, like, hey, Aaron.

Are you, like, with the rest of us? Are you just over there still on McAfee at 4 and 10 talking about show me your vax status when we're all looking at your season and the end of your career and saying, man, you were really 1 of the best to ever do this. Why does it have to look like this at the end?

He was a 4 time MVP. From what Billy is saying, though, it also seems like and, Dan, you have discussed this. We have discussed this a lot over 20 years is reaching the pinnacle of your profession at such an early age. And then what do I do when this is done?

Oh, but he's still enjoying like, you get nobody gets this long. I know we've made advancements with medicine and everything else, but somebody's gonna want him next year. The because The Jets. The last month, okay, he's looked like he can move around He's

been good.

And he's been really accurate, and he's again playing for his job. And that's not normal at that age, but I have seen what Stegotz's jets have done over 40 years. Nothing. I thought Aaron Rodgers over the last 4 games would have been what they were getting all season. They have lost 7 1 score games.

0 and 7. I thought Aaron Rodgers was there, so that would be 7 and o. Yep. Not and so if they're 7 and o like, I thought well, if I replace Zach Wilson with Aaron Rodgers and he thought that's how it would go. That's why he's doing that whole documentary.

He thought he was gonna be great in New York because he's 1 of the best to ever do it. Like, that's not up for dispute. I'm not gonna have that erased by the last 3 years.

It's not really like a football documentary, though. Like, his rehab is covered, and you're kinda seeing how he's trying to get back. But, like, it tells his football story, but it's really more like who Aaron Rodgers is and how he got here is kinda what it is. Like, it goes back to, like, his very Christian upbringing and then the fact that he went to more of a liberal college and how it had him start questioning things because he's he kinda got out of the bubble that he was in, and then he started really having more questions in life. And then as he had more success and he wasn't finding happiness, he then started looking for happiness and reading books and finding happiness in different places that then take him down these different paths.

Like, it's kind of interesting, but, like, you do feel bad for him. I the 1 thing that I would say is that, like, some of this stuff and it's not meant to be judgmental. But some of the stuff that he's, like, well, I didn't really want any of this. And it's, like, yes and no. Like, yes, he wanted to be a great football player.

But, like, also, he said that he kinda lost. Like, once he won the Super Bowl, everything changes. He became a public figure. He was never seeking that out or the fame or whatever. And it's, like, maybe not, but, like, he also decided to be the State Farm guy that kind of really elevated you into, like, a household name everywhere.

So, like, there's things like that that were decisions that were made. You know, he even alluded to some of the the people that he's dated. He even talked about the family stuff to an extent. So, like, there's a lot in there, and you kinda see how he got to where he got to whether you agree with what he's doing or not. But, like, at the end of the day, judgment aside, like, I just kinda I I I kinda hope he just finds happiness.

You know what I mean? And, like, find some sort of meaning and fulfillment in his life because that's really what he seems to be searching for just in places that are not necessarily where you and I would. The Jets. Well, yeah. That.

It it has seemed over the last 5 years. Once you're into Iowa, once you're getting to the Ayahuasca portion of your journey, you're really searching

for something. Earlier than we think too if you watch it, because I think he's he's gone to, like, 4 or 5 retreats now. And I think it goes back deeper than the initial 1 that, like, we the big 1, like, a year and a half ago or whatever. They he had already done that a couple of different times.

It's 1 hell of a midlife crisis, man.

I don't know that I would I don't know that I would call it a crisis. Like, watching it, like, his behavior is not what I think most people would do, but, like, I see how and why he's doing it. I don't necessarily need to agree with it. I just kinda feel bad that he's going through it.

And he

and he just feels as though seemingly as someone who's just watching a documentary that he produced. He's going through seemingly not, I guess, being truly happy and accepting of himself.

I mean, isn't that the entirety of the journey, though? I don't wanna go too self help on this. But once you get to some form of better self love that's forgiving for yourself, then you love others better, and you allow them to love you better as well. He's probably wandering through life feeling a little alone and empty because of his absence of connections and looking for spiritual enlightenment through ways that kill the ego with Ayahuasca because it seems pretty obvious over the last 5 years that he's searching to be happier. But is that a path to be judged, or is that a path to be celebrated?

Once you get out there with all of these political opinions and look for all of these fights, though, that's not a happy place. Like, it's it's hard to be fighting the entirety of the Internet for 5 years pretending you don't care about anybody's opinion when you're the guy who went to Mina Kimes is, like, wherever she was, you wanted to so badly be understood by the public that you did a magazine story where you went to where Mina Kimes was, her home, and because you wanted so badly to be understood by the public. That's not the behavior of somebody who doesn't care to be understood, but I will tell you where it is that I have felt more loved by my wife than I have ever felt loved before. Wherever understanding and acceptance are, it's a craving. It's really strong, and you will find it around love, people who understand and accept you.

Like, I don't know how much of that he's getting that would feel like fulfillment. Understanding, and acceptance, which is how you arrive at making a documentary that has access where you're showing everybody everything or trying to.

It's crazy access too. Like, there was cameras with him when he had a conversation with RFK. They didn't show it, but spoiler alert, they didn't show it. But, like, they showed him in the car driving back after going on a hike with RFK. He's like, yeah.

He just asked me to be vice president. So, like, that wasn't a rumor. That was, like, he asked him that day to be his vice president, which is kind of wild. Then they have the camera crew grow go with him to Costa Rica to these Ayahuasca retreats. Oh, boy.

He's high.

Really?

He's oh, boy. He's I mean, he's playing a little a little drum there, and he's singing and dancing like I love but he I mean, that's his that's his group. That that group of people he finds to be you know, it's giving him what he's searching for. Then he goes to, like, this, this charity game day days after this retreat. Man, Josh Allen comes out so nice.

He got he's coming. So what a nice, loving guy. Just come in.

He's like, hey, buddy. How's it going? Great to see you.

What a

happy guy that guy is.

Josh Allen. Yeah.

It's crazy. Buddy I'll

let you

know how I'll let you know how episode 3 episode 3 of the tease was Right. The whole vaccination situation.

You fell

asleep because you go You go

I do that every Sunday.

Well, the thing

is is, like, they're each, like, an hour and 6 minutes long. I start watching it. I have to pause, let the dogs out, do this whole thing. Yeah. And then, like, I come back.

I'm dozing. It was it could've tightened it up slightly. A little bit. A little bit. But, you know, it's,

you know,

it's interesting. It I would say if you really want to and you don't have to, reserve judgment while you're watching it. And then maybe it's it's a more enjoyable experience or you can get something out it. If you go in there and you just wanna hate Aaron Rodgers, you'll probably find things to hate him for.

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It will. I think you make a fair point about when when Billy's talking about Aaron and his search for happiness and some of the stuff he's he's thrown himself into over the last, I don't know, 4 or 5 years, he would find happiness, I would think, if he disconnected. He's too connected. Like, disconnect.

I I would say that I Dan,

you ever spend the day without your phone? Yeah. It's the greatest day of your life. I promise you. Yes.

Yes.

Don't you, like, always reach for your pocket? You're like, where is this thing at?

Yeah. I have a heater though.

Are we overcomplicated this, so, with with Aaron Rodgers? If he's the king of New York right now, if his time with the Jets has been a massive success and they're headed to the playoffs and they're really good, are we still talking about how unhappy he is?

That's a good question because the harder the times are, the harder it is to celebrate joy with others. Like, 4 and 10 is gonna seep into every aspect of your life no matter who you are playing for that team.

And torn Achilles.

Well, I mean, if you're if you're to believe the documentary and the way that it sets it up, winning the Super Bowl is really kind of what set this all off because he reached the pinnacle of what he thought would be happiness and realized I'm not happy. Well, but this Like, I did absolutely everything that I wanted to do professionally, and I thought that would bring me the happiness. And then once I got there is when things really started feeling like this is not what I wanted to feel.

So this is what I will tell you from there, and this one's super interesting too. Tyson Fury, family. Like, everyone in the family is a street fighter. You get to heavyweight champion, and he looks up and he's like, here it is, all my dreams. Gain's a bunch of weight, cocaine addiction drinking because all my dreams didn't look like I thought my dreams would look like.

I will tell you, and you've heard me tell this story before. As a journalist, when I got to the sports reporters in Times Square at the ESPN zone and they were doing that show on Sundays, I'm like, this is the top of my profession. This is the highest place that there is, and I looked around and I was immediately made sad by, is this my dreams? The bar smells bad. They were throwing up in urine and, you know, chairs on the tables.

Like, this was That was before the Cleveland Day.

Was last night. Yes. This was last night in Times Square. What do you imagine? How much do you think New York humped the ESPN zone in Times Square the night before?

Like, what do you imagine that place was like in Times Square? A zoo. And the following morning, deeply unpleasant. And the coffee table that was there was from 30 years ago, and Bob Ryan's breath was morning breath.

Still caught up on Humped.

Yeah. Haven't heard that in a while.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju at Levittard show. Do you ever use a humped as a term for fornication?

I had a similar experience, Dan, the first time that I finally got a chance to be 1 of the panelists on around the horn. I thought that it was gonna feel great, and it did. It's the best feeling I've ever had. I mean, seriously, I miss doing it. I miss reality.

I miss Sedano. I miss the crew. It's exactly what I expected, but more.

I mean, how about that?

Well, that's why that's why you're the industry titan that you are joyously swinging from vine to vine, enjoying whatever candy there is out there. You did a great job, Greg Cody, with the, with the gifts. Thank you. Stegotts has said, Izzy is out there trying to rival you. Stegotts has said that this book, this book This man can rap.

Okay. And and the bigger gift, That's your unicorn. Okay. That that was a new Yeah. That was a challenge?

That was a challenge.

These do seem like very well wrapped gifts. I'll give them that.

Thank you. I saw is he is he's got rap game? I I saw him.

Yeah. I saw him.

You know, he he was doing some good work out there.

He's cutting paper.

Little heavy on the tape, but, that would be my only critique.

I feel a little bit disappointed. I feel disappointed that, that Izzy, you know, immediately tried to wrap gifts to rival you, and you're just giving him a bit of a condescending. Yeah. You're pretty good too, kid.

Oh, you know, I complimented his rap game. Yeah.

You did. But you're I

missed the KG bed.

But but like Dave Hyde, he doesn't quite rise to the level of 1 Greg Cody.

Right? You know, you said it.

You're being polite during the holidays. How did you feel about Izzy's rapping game?

I thought it was great. I would accept that gift. And I don't even know what was in there. But because he wrapped it, I would accept it.

Wait. Has there been a gift that's been poorly wrapped that you didn't accept?

Oh, I I look down on badly wrapped gifts.

Really?

Yeah. I'm gonna be very honest with you. My wife is a wonderful person. What? She sorta yeah.

Oh, no. Goes really quick with the gift wrap.

Oh, no. No. No.

She probably buys 7 times the amount of gifts that

you rent. Like, at

least at least

she has a lot to wrap. No.

But they're all coming in cardboard boxes on doorstep.

So Put it on the poll, please, at lebanard show. Do you look down on poorly wrapped gifts, also from and by your wife?

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