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Com. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugatz, I don't know if you've noticed early in this NBA season, something that I think is the funniest thing that I have seen on the court during the NBA NBA season. It's early now, and when you say the Celtics are disrespected, they're undefeated again, they win last night against Milwaukee. If they don't get injured, it's going to be very hard to see much of anyone beating them. But the funiest thing that I've seen in the NBA this year is just how difficult it is for Zack Eady to stay on the court because he had 4 fouls in 13 minutes in one game and 6 fouls in 15 minutes in another game, which is what would happen if you or I were trying to defend the post. That many fouls that quickly, where you're getting six fouls in 15 minutes is super odd.
He's also getting his money's worth.
I He's just too slow to be out there. He is, you're right. And that's a weird team for him to join just because if you're going to build around Ja Morant, he's going to make his way up and down the court about seven times in the time it takes old Nike Air Cement Sneakers, Zack Eady, to be able to run up and down the court.
Is this like a modern day bruiser? Like, hey, the coach is like, Hey, you're getting 13 minutes.
Use them. I would tell you back in the '90s, perhaps the late '80s, this guy would dominate Rick Smith. I am telling you.
Rick Smith was quite good.
He was.
No one's dominating Rick Smith. Even Ewing had trouble.
No. Occasionally. It was Reggie Miller, Dale Davis, Antonio Davis. It was never Rick Smith.
I just can't think of a worse team for Zack Edee to be on than Memphis when you consider Ja Moran's strengths. Ja Moran can literally make it up and down the court before Zack Edee can make it down the floor once.
It's crazy because the general NBA consensus when drafted was that. Then because he played really well in the preseason, I saw a lot of NBA minds that I really respect go, You know what? Maybe this will work. Offensively, he has more to his game than we thought. Now in two games, it's a complete 180 all the way back to this guy can't play, he can't be on the floor. He's the first player since the merger to foul out in 15 minutes or less in his NBA debut. Complete 180.
Wow. What? That was a good one.
It's a good one.
It was good.
Lucy is about to catch a flight, Stugatz. But before it is that she leaves, I wanted to include her on an Instagram story and a story in general that a lot of people are noticing and talking about, which is that Giselle Bündchen, recently divorced, Giselle Bündchen is, evidently, the reports are, now pregnant and about to have a baby with the jiu-jitsu instructor that was a bit of an entanglement at the end of whatever Tom Brady's relationship status was with Giselle Bündchen at the end of their marriage. This is an interesting story beyond the gossip elements, Stugatz, because it's really rare for Tom braided to be in any marriage where he's not the biggest money earner. Because throughout this power couple's marriage, Tom braided was in a marriage where Giselle Bunch and what she was doing with aging, harder to do than what Tom braided was doing in sports with aging, which is maintaining beauty money as you age. Now, at the end of the relationship that everybody was interested in, you have something that feels, if not tawdry, slightly scandalous. What is Tom braided doing on his Instagram stories? I am not on Instagram, but I just saw that a lot of people were talking whatever it is that Tom braided is doing.
I wouldn't call this situation scandalous because, Hey, you're divorced. You want to go have a baby with your hot jiu-jitsu instructor. Hell, yeah, sister, you do that. That's feminism. But what I found funny about this situation, people were like, Lucy, it's not funny. Well, guess what? My parents are divorced, so I can laugh about it.
It's like littering inside. Bona Fides. Bona Fides. I have so much to do that.
Tom braided, last night, posted on his Instagram story a sunset picture with You can put songs on your story of Landslide, but he didn't even do the Fleetwood Mac version. He did the Chicks version, which every time I will lose it, I post that. I post the Landslide by the Chicks because I think it's really, really funny. Yeah, you're probably... If Landslide is the song you're relating to, you're probably going through it at the moment. So he was expressing himself online in a funny way.
The quote was, Oh, mirror in the sky, what is love? What's he mean by that?
By the way, everyone thinks that Landslide is about a broken heart. That's not what that song's about. Stevie Nicks said that when she was trying to get into music, her parents were like, Hey, girl, this isn't going to work out for you. We'll pay for you to go to school. She was like, Well, it's not working out. I can't get anywhere. I'm not going to have success in the industry. The song was about her realizing she had to give up on her dream as a musician. That's what Landslide is about. Little fun factoid for you there.
To be clear, I don't believe Giselle Bündchen having a baby now with her jiu-jitsu instructor is in any way scandalous. I was referencing- Feminism. The fact. Thank you, Stugatz. I know you're a big advocate there. Stugatz it. I was referencing the fact that there were a lot of reports invasive in their marriage about why it is it ended and if the jiu-jitsu instructor had anything to do with it. The only reason I know that this jiu-jitsu instructor exists is because of whatever it is that was happening at the end of their marriage that the tabloids were reporting on. What do you make of this? You're feeling something in the realm of turmoil or heartbreak that Tom braided is throwing out into the environment where he's just telling everybody, Well, that news stings. Is that what you're making of it?
I don't know. I think I just find the song Choice Funny. That was my whole takeaway because that's my ironic sad song. Every time Iowa loses, I do a little rotation. Landslide by the Chicks or Bad Day, the song that they used to play when you got kicked off American Idol. That one really would leave a nice little mark. But I don't know the inner details of their relationship, and I'm sure it's He's sad, but I just thought the pose was funny.
Okay, that's all you wanted to talk about. You just wanted to talk about whether or not- I like to gossip, Dan.
It's fun and it's healthy. I saw a TikTok therapist tell me how important gossip is, and they're never wrong.
All right, put it on the poll, Juju. Is gossip Asip healthy. Also, video, do me a favor, please, and get me the graphic of Anthony Rizzo during the World Series being pelted by baseballs, because I think this is one of the things in sports, Stugatz, that we are consistently looking past as something that really, really hurts in baseball, and we just shrug our shoulders on. As hard as pitchers are throwing these days, and I understand that people wear the equivalent of shin guards and elbow pads and everything else to make sure that when they get hit by baseballs, it's not too problematic. But the graphic that they showed during the World Series last night-So good.of Anthony Rizzo, he crowds the plate and he doesn't back off. It's got to be hard not to flinch. I don't know if you've seen Mary Hart. Do you guys, do young people here know who Mary Hart is, the former Entertainment Tonight anchor? She's got- Yes, I do know. Great seats right behind Home Plate at Dodger Games, and she's the only one- I didn't know she was alive.
Lucy, no. That's $50. I'm not going to pay it.
I don't live here.
So you didn't know.
So you don't know who she is.
Wait, that was such a- I'm not going to do that. That was such a Lucy- I'm so happy she's alive, though.
She was great on entertainment tonight.
Yeah, and she used to throw her hat in the sky.
She retired like, Yeah, I remember her.
You're going to make it after all.
That's Mary Tyler Moore. That's not Mary Hart.
No, but I know Mary Hart, and I'm so happy she's alive. That's the best new- You owe $50.
No, I'm not going to pay that. Lucy, that's not one of the options.
Can I expense it?
Yeah.
You get.
You actually get. Lucy, that's a $50 fine.
All right. Well, I have a flight to catch.
Okay, Then it's $51 if you tell me there's no cash.
Was Mary Taylor more the one with Bob Newhart, or was that another person? That was not with Bob Newhart. Wasn't it a spinoff? I think that was right. Then Bob Newhart's show was just a dream. Spoiler alert, right?
Isn't that how that worked? I may have this wrong. I don't believe that Mary Tyler More and Bob Newhart were connected, but maybe someone will correct me on that.
No, that was a Dick Van Dyke show, right? She was married to Dick Van Dyke, and then sometimes he tripped over the Ottoman.
What I was saying about Mary Hart is that she sits right behind home plate, and she's the only person who doesn't flinch. She's been doing it for so many years on foul balls that go flying back. You will see everyone around her flinch, and she's the only one who does not flinch.
But she might be dead.
She's not dead. She is still alive. Maybe that's why she doesn't flinch. She wouldn't flinch if she were dead. That's correct. But Lucy, you're going to go ahead and owe those $50. But here's Anthony Rizzo getting pelted Lucy, this is not how this works around here. Says who? Well, as your boss, technically, says me, technically. Mary Hart looks good. Good for her. Let's go ahead and show Anthony Rizzo's stugats this graphic of him just getting hit by the thing.
Oh my Lord.
Did he die?
This is the funniest thing I've ever seen. They made the cartoon Rizzo just crumble to the floor.
Yes. If you're not watching this on YouTube, it's him being hit by the equivalent of 100 baseballs. I don't know how many times. I guess it's 114. One 94, yes. Most in Major League Base.
Since 2015.
Good God. What is the record for most hit by pitch in the entire history of baseball?
Dezio, right?
I think so. It used to be, but a hundred 94 times since 2015, Stugats. I mean, look, I I don't know how many people listening to this think about the daily wear and tear that athletes endure. I know in baseball, I've told you a couple of different times that the 162-game season, traveling like that, it's an insanity. It's not reasonable in any way. To be hit by a baseball, a hundred 94 times in the last decade.At once.
Yeah, Mike, this is going to be disappointing. Craig Bigeo is second all time. He was hit 285 times. Huey Jennings is number one with 287. Bigeo, just too short of the record.
But Bigio does have the modern era record. Huey, I'm just going to guess, leaned into a few.
Huey, born in 1869, Cribs, 9, died in 1928.
If I'm Bigio, I consider coming back for the record, right? Like Mr. 3000. This is something he can't accomplish if he comes back.
You're two away. Give him a month.
A month of Eats. Exactly right.
Don Baylor up there. Jason Kendall up there. Anthony Rizzo, eighth all time.
Chase Utley, knife.
I have a random segue on the same topic, more or less. I met someone recently who they asked me what I did, and I said, I worked with you, Dan, and they said that they didn't like you because you gave away your Craig Bijou Hall of Fame vote. Is that the case? I didn't think you gave away that vote.
Are you scratching your knee or your dog?
No, Willow was humping me.
It's actively happening.
But I fought through it, okay?
I persevered. No one needs to know about that. Cut that, Jerr bar. Cut that from the record. I didn't think you took Craig Buggio's unanimous vote away. What did you?
I sold my Hall of Fame vote to Dead Spin. It didn't actually sell. It didn't take any money. I don't know. They ended up voting in 10 people who deserve to be in. The readers of Dead Spin did a good job, and I don't assume that they would not vote in Buggio.
I'm confirming this, but I believe Biggio missed being a first ballot by one vote, and my dad didn't vote for him. Then the next year did, and he got in easily the next year.
So it was you being blamed for something Greg did? Yes, of course. That's what I thought because he sprung this on me, and I was like, Oh, yeah, I know Dan sold his ballot once, but I didn't I didn't associate it with Craig Buggio in any way.
One of the things back in my day is out beginning today, back in my day with Greg Cody. You mentioned Don Baylor. So good. One of my favorite sports stories involves Don Baylor. He stands in the box and he does lean over the plate, and he was hugely intimidating, and he wouldn't flinch. So he would get hit by a ton of pitches, and then he would run to to first base or jog and never show anybody that it hurt at all until the time he got hit by a Nolan Ryan fastball. And then he jogs to first base, and everyone's waiting, and he jogs to first base as if it doesn't hurt at all, and then gets to first base and collapses. Being hit by a hundred 94 baseballs in a decade, I got to imagine. Think about how, and this doesn't probably apply to the younger people, but I'm sure that at this point, Mike, Billy, Chris, dads, you're feeling aches and pains when you wake up in the morning. You've gotten to that age. Have you not? Imagine being hit on the forearm, on the wrist, on the elbow, a hundred and 94 times, on the hip by people coming out of the bullpen.
Now, an A's reliever comes out of the bullpen throwing a hundred and four miles an hour.
Imagine being paid $60 million a year to do that, though. I mean, Jesus, Rizzo. I'm not feeling bad for him.
He's not paid $60 million a year.
That guy has made $220 million in his career. But he's not being paid. Hit me with $194 billion.
Where did you come up with he's getting $60 million a year?
It was a bit of a stretch. It helped the argument.
Seventh-inning stretch.
My Hip, to your point, Dan, my hip pops when I get out of bed. Every morning.
You just have to move my...
Go in a circle until I feel the pop.
Yeah. Bizzio was two votes shy, by the way.
So Dan's and Greg's. Two. In a second year. It was just one of those awkward things where I was put in a weird spot, and I didn't know whether or not to be like, Yeah, I don't have anything to do with Dan's choices with his Hall of Fame votes. Please don't hold that against me. But also, maybe he didn't even do that. So I can't really say, but I'm not a bad person.
I don't think I did. I can be blamed for any number of things. I don't think that's one of them. I would have heard about it if I had kept Bijou out of the Hall of Fame. I'd certainly remembered. I wanted to ask you guys something else that has finally happened, and I'm surprised it took this long to happen. People are turning on the omnipresence of Jason Jaison Kelsi. He is everywhere so much. The Kelsis had a really good run of not annoying people. But recently, ESPN is now, reportedly, thinking of a late night show with Jason Kelsey. I don't know when and how or where it most recently happened because they had a sustained run of nobody seemingly being annoyed with them and how much they were grabbing at. It seemed like everywhere where people were finding them charming and endearing and delightful, being introduced to the personality that Philadelphia had already come to love with Jason Kelsey. But they've taken so many media jobs that there is now a significant pushback on Jason Kelsey is everywhere. Do I need this much Jason Kelsey? I still like hearing from him everywhere, but where are you guys on this?
I mean, people are always going to be contrarians, Dan. They did this with Tony Romo, and they can never take Tony Romo away from me. At the end of a game, there is no one else I want to hear saying, Ah, damn it, than Tony Romo. And they tried to tell me, Oh, Tony Romo is so annoying. They don't even let him predict plays anymore. He's just weird, and he makes weird noises. No, I love Tony Romo. Same thing with Jason Kelsi. People out there, they just want to be different. They just want to be contrarian, and they want to say, Oh, enough of Jason Kelsi. Like I did with Jason Sudeckis at the WMBA finals. And sometimes people just do But it could be a case if Jason and Kelsey is in too many places saying too many things.
If I had to give those guys advice, it would be, stick to your podcast.
You have your own- And come on God bless football.
And come on God bless football. You have your own platform Let yourselves be heard once a week right there and nowhere else.
But they're being paid a great deal of money to make appearances all over the place. They made so much money. All over the place.
I know, but just, I don't know. For me, just stick to the podcast.
Stop making money?
Well, no, they've made a ton of money. They can go about it differently than most people. They don't have to grab it every single appearance, every single commercial, every single job that's offered to them like I would. They could just come on once a week and just do their show, and people would flock to it.
That's horrific advice. Well, that's my advice. Don't do Monday Night Countdown. Don't do any of the commercials.
But that's why people are getting annoyed. But Chunky is spicy, and it's good to be spicy.
Contractually, I think he's got a bunch of deals that him, not unlike Belichick, to be everywhere because they grabbed it so much opportunity post-retirement. I would say nobody would dispute that the Kelsies have been managed well, right? That the Kelsie economy has been managed well. That's not up for dispute. It can't be disputed, but they may have grabbed too much stuff. I expected this recoil to arrive earlier than it has.
From the Kelsie standpoint, though, I feel like this is the way with a lot of players that once they're done playing, they still want to be the game of football. This is a way for him to still be going to games, part of the game. He's still around football, which is obviously a game that he loves. So I don't begrudge any Kelsey for doing any media opportunity. And I think that their Q rating is probably still pretty high.
Late night television? How do we feel about that? That seems like an older form for ESPN to embrace. There aren't a whole lot of people getting into late night television right now. Espn has never succeeded at late night television that isn't SportsCenter. At one point, I was talking with Eric Rideome, the producer, pardon the interruption, about doing something Coast to Coast with Bill Simmons. They've done some stuff with Jay Moore, but late night television generally has not worked at ESPN. How do you feel about Jason Kelsi being stood up as a signature personality. These are the reports around which you would build a late night show.
I mean, he's a center. That's a lot of pressure to put on a guy, to host and carry a late night show, to be funny, to be entertaining. I don't know if it's a daily show or a weekly show. It's just a lot to ask. I guess back to my original point, when you start doing so many other things, the thing that made you popular starts to suffer. That's why I would tell Jason and Travis just to focus on that one thing while Travis is still playing.
I agree. He probably can't block for shit now.
I don't think that's necessarily an issue because we're leaving out a portion where his brother dates the biggest pop star in the entire world. I don't think that their audience is fading away by any means. I think they're growing and growing, and now they're attracting a completely different audience than they did a year, two years ago, because you have this whole new demographic of people. I just say, whatever, I want everyone to make money and succeed and be happy. Why not strike while the iron's hot?
This is like when LeBron came down here and it made us go to... It was like, oh, LeBron, and then LeBron left us and it was like, oh, like, Kelsey right now has the Taylor Swift effect. If LeBron leaving us, Taylor leaves them, did the Kelsey still-It's a terrible example.
It's a good example. Did you see Jason and Kelsey when he was at the Taylor Swift concert a week ago, was getting swarmed like a celebrity. Everybody was just running after Jason. He just went to buy merch, and everyone was so excited to see Jason. This wouldn't have happened two years ago. Why would you not take advantage?
When Lucy is saying that the audience continues to grow, I don't believe it is possible in 2024 to have your audience grow without a substantive portion of it becoming polarized by that growth. I don't think you're allowed in 2024 to just get universal applause on anything. I don't think a person exists that just gets everyone anymore applauding for them all the time. If the Kelsies are going to get more and more audience acquisition, inevitably, they're going to get some blowback and be less popular in spaces than they've ever been.
And that's already happened. There's a whole group of men out there that are furious that there's a woman at football games on camera. We've already seen that blowback, but they have a big enough audience. They make enough money. Their podcast is one of the biggest podcasts in the world. I honestly think they're pretty chill and they're fine. You never know what a post-football career is going to look like for somebody. Something could happen, and Jason couldn't be on TV anymore or whatever. So why not capitalize on it now when you know that you're going to make a lot of money and you can set your sofa life?
I wanted to ask you guys something else that I discussed with Mina Kimes and Pablo Torre on Pablo Torre Finds Out.
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Don Lebatard. Your history with him suggests three years of Three years of heaters. But this Stugatz, my partner enlivened by a sportsman.
We're having sex, baby.
And Joe Mauer. Yes, this is the best version of him. What? Stugatz.
No, you are.
Yeah.
It feels good.
This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.
Did I read this report correctly that Mina and Dan Arlowski are doing something with the Simpsons? I just saw something in passing, and I didn't read any of the details.
Yes, they announced it during the game. There's a Simpsons NFL broadcast that's going to happen. Wow.
It didn't go great with Toy Story. Why? Guys, it was super glitchy.
That's just in the beginning.
Do you guys not remember watching it?
No, I don't remember.
I remember. Joe Tess was like, Sorry, again. You're just looking at me because the game has stopped working.
That was a good test. It was ambitious.
Oh, it's ambitious.
It went okay. There were hiccups, but I think we all expected that. And now they're doing it with another- You are looking live and me only. Now they're going to do it with the Simpson. So that's cool.
By the way, just one last thing on the Kelsies. So Jason Kelsie made $81 million in his 12-year NFL career. He's already signed a three-year, $100 million contract deal with Wundery. Why would he turn down more money when he's easily making more than he made in his entire career in the NFL.
That deal was for the podcast, though, right?
Yeah, but that's just one aspect of it. If you could do the podcast once a week or whatever it is- You're saying grab it all the money while you can? Yeah, because he beat his body for 12 years to get to this point. Now he can cash in on all the work that he did. Granted, it's because of the popularity of the podcast with his brother and who his brother is dating. But why not cash in?
It's a Cowboys, Bangles Monday Night football game, and I think it's brilliant because making the Cowboys, Simpson characters is the only way you will get me to watch the Cowboys again this season.
Thank you for bringing up the Cowboys, because that's what we were talking about with Mina on Pablo Tori Finds Out. I'm curious what your thoughts are because Mina and I don't very often have a big disagreement, but we did on this. The story was that the Cowboys do something that no other team in the league does, which is where their players are working out or in private spaces, they do fan and customer tours that are invasive to the players that make more than $10 million a year because cowboy fans have an unusual access to the spaces that are usually private for the cowboys. And some former cowboys were saying that it gets in the way of winning, that it is a distraction. And the thing that Mina and I were disagreeing about is, I don't believe in the way that Jerry does these transactions where winning is secondary, that business is ever a distraction because business is what it is that Jerry does. And business is booming in Dallas, even if the product on the field isn't particularly relevant because of how it is that he ends up doing business. And I wanted to discuss this with you guys because some former cowboys are saying that stuff like that gets in the way of winning, and I don't believe that it does.
I believe Jerry will find wherever it is that he can find dollars around the circus tent and has done this for 30 years. He does not care what the attention looks like as long as there is attention. I'm about to give you a pretty shocking stat, I believe, about the business of the Dallas Cowboys.
I think that the story about the tours made me think of watching the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders series on Netflix because there was a really uncomfortable scene where there was a tour going through their locker room, and the whole thing just was very invasive feeling and was just honestly pretty bizarre. I'm with you on the business is the business, right? The business is making money, but I could totally see how a player would not like working in that environment, would not like working out in that environment, would feel like they're constantly being surveilled or constantly being bothered by people that aren't on the team. And that is a sacred place for teammates to be together and to work together and how just awkward it would feel. And so, yeah, I could see how that would bother a player.
I believe it's dehumanizing. It's not the part that I was disagreeing with Mina on. In fact, I would say that it's not a giant stretch to take all of that profit off of intimate spaces where the players are. It's not a big leap from that to how Donald Sterling treated his players, where he'd invite fans and friends in the locker room and be like, Look at all these beautiful black bodies, and treat it as like a private VIP affair. But the part that Jerry always gets rewarded on, and I don't know how you can argue that this is bad for business, I believe the Dallas Cowboys are worth $3 billion more than any other sports franchise.
They are, confirmed. $11 billion.
You guys remember that video that Jamie Fox let out? That was wild. Do you not know what I'm talking about?
The one from the hospital or somewhere else?
No, no, no, no. It's a Jerry Jones video. He said, Cowboys as any overhears Jerry Jones talking about a player? Oh, boy. Oh, you haven't heard it? I'll grab that video for you. Okay. Thank you. Yes.
I will grab that interview. This is news to me. I'm sorry.
It's shot. He wanted to invoke Donald Sterling.
Okay. Well, no. Jerry Jones is an old-timey, from another time oilman who doesn't much care about what the media reports on things as long as it brings attention to his franchise or where it that he leaves his players or employees feeling powerless or dehumanized. His way of doing business is spectacularly NFL, Stugatz, and he doesn't do a very good job of hiding the overt greed in it and how much or how little he cares about how you receive, how he decides to do entertainment.
He won the Super Bowl in the '90s with Michael Irvin and Troy Akemen. So he's checked that. I know he wants to win another one, right? But I think Jerry truly cares about being the most valuable NFL team in the league by $3 billion more than he cares about winning.
If you're asking- That is winning to him.
That's winning to him, yes. Winning in business is winning to Jerry Jones. If you're asking, would that get in the way of winning? I feel like that's a bunch of players who didn't win who are making excuses as to why they didn't win. I don't want to hear it because he's taking a few people throughout the facility and they're at practice. It's invasive, Sturz. I know it's invasive, but it doesn't get in the way of winning. Come on. That's ridiculous. Is it?
We've had people watch us podcast.
It's super hard. It gets hard to focus.
It's hard for Chris to read when people are in the room.
This is practice, not a game. They're coming to practice. They're walking through the facility. How does that impact winning and losing?
It's a lot. We have to tell them, Don't look at Dan. You got to give everyone all the rules.
Jamie, Jamie Fox, Mike, I don't know what that video is. Can you give me the context before it is that we play it?
Yeah, let's give video some time to rip the video. But the origins were Jamie Fox was at a Dallas Cowboys practice. Maybe he was enjoying this. This incredible experience that Jerry Jones is offering his customer base. But he was there standing next to Jerry Jones at practice, out in the stands, and Jerry Jones was rattling off stats. And then it ends with a surprising thing that is out there for a little bit before Jamie Fox decides to cut off the live broadcast.
Measurement you don't usually hear.
Look, these front offices, they think about everything when they're talent evaluating. They go through every... It probably is on an actual scouting report.
It's not an Arnold Palmer situation, is it? Yeah.
That's a difficult one to say. Arnold Palmer. What's his nickname? Does he have a Golden Bear type nickname, Arnold?
That's a good question. Arnie's Army was the nickname of his fan I want to hear this Jamie Fox.
It is a game of inches.
Thank you. I don't think I want to hear it anymore.
Wasn't he the King?
He is the King, yeah. King.
Yeah, but there's so many Kings.
Elvis is the King.
When I say the Golden Bear, you know who I'm talking about. When I say the King, There's pushback.
I don't think of Palmer as the king. When was that? Elvis. Was that popularized at all? I don't think that that's something. Elvis is the king. Lebron is the king.
No, Elvis is the king.
How many other kings are there? There's one king.
Lebron's King James, not the king.
I've Have you ever heard Arnold Palmer- Slow it down. Said as the king. That's the first time I'm hearing that as a nickname. You're our golf expert. Is that a thing? Is that something- I mean, the king is for Elvis.
It's not for Orny. I I love you, Arnold, but it's not. That's reserved for one person, and it's Elvis Presley.
But we've also shortened it. He wasn't nicknamed the King. He was the King of Rock and Roll.
Arnold Palmer was?
No. Elvis Presley.
Which one was the one with the blue suede shoes?
De Rosen is a king.
But there is... Michael Jackson was called the King of Pop, and no one called him the King. It was always King of Pop. It's curious.
Do you know Palmer, Jack, and Gary Playa were known as the Big Three in the 1960s? I Now we have multiple big threes. Which one was the actual big three?
I have never heard Palmer referred to as the King, but let's go ahead and play this Jamie Fox video. I don't know why it is that I thought it was video from the hospital with Jamie Fox.
Did you watch golf in the '60s?
I did not, but I just assumed that those were incredibly white guys who were the big three. Let's hear from Jamie Fox.
Our exercise patients here, because it is practice, there's a lot of audio there. Let's listen closely. I don't know if they edited the sound on the front-end out because this- Seems dangerous. This audio pops up on the back-end.
Hey, pretty good right there. He showed balance. Five, nine, a half, two, two. Five, nine, two, two. Four, four, one. Okay. Nine and three-inch head.
Eight and a half Wendy.
Well, I heard that clear.
Yeah. Jamie Fox. I don't think that Jerry Jones knew he was on video there. I'm not sure how much Jerry Jones, given his general soaked in power situation, cares about what anyone overhears that he is saying, because he has been powerful for a long time. He's had some scandals that just vanished that would end other owners and bother other owners. But when you're franchised, I'm going to say it again because I think it's a shocking stat, his franchise is worth $3 billion more than any other franchise. I don't know, maybe international internationally, there are some soccer clubs that are- Man, he is banking on those tours.
So many tours. So many tours. In fairness to Jerry Jones, it's only what it sounds like, and he could have been cut off in the middle of saying something. I don't know. He could have been saying like, Discus or something.
No. Unlikely? What is the most expensive or most valuable franchise overseas in soccer?
United or Real Madrid.
What's their tour schedule like?
Is it worth $11 billion?
Yeah, I think it's I think Maine United is worth more than the Cowboys.
I legitimately did not think there was such a thing as an NFL franchise or any franchise worth $3 billion more than any other franchise.
Mike, Manchester United is $6 billion right now.
Six billion. I remember reading, when I was researching for Stugatz's book, that the Cowboys were the most highly valued sports club or franchise in the entire world. So that's probably still true.
According to Forbes 2023 rankings, it's Cowboys, Yankees, Warriors, Patients, Rams, Giants, Bears, Riders, Dicks, Jets, Real Madrid, Commanders. What? Eight and a half inches?
It sounded like- I said Dicks. Jessica, I didn't know you did research What's happening here? For Stugatz's book. You did research for Stugatz's book?
Someone had to do it, Dan. I don't even remember what I wrote at this point. I guess I got to buy the book. You're welcome.
Man U, 49ers, Lakers, Cox, Eagles, Dolphins, Barcelona, Texans, Liverpool, Broncos, Seahawks. Dolphins?
Seahawks.
What'd you hear?
This is on me.
We can agree he was the king of Iced Tea Lemonades, at least.
Yeah. That I'd give you.
I'm pretty sure he was the King, Dan. I don't think I made that up.
I'm not saying you made it up. I'm just telling you that that's not something that I've ever heard before in my life.
If you watched Columbo or Magnum PI or Matlock or murder, she wrote, you would know.
I don't believe that before now, the majority of our audience has ever heard that Arnold Palmer- You don't want to slow that one down.
The King. Bayern, Munich, Dodgers, Falcons, Vikings, Ravens, Stealers, Browns, Testicles, Red Sox, Titans, Colts, Chiefs, Paris, Saint Germain?
I'd like the remainder of this.
Coles, Panthers, Saint, Celtics, Jaguars, and then just Ferrari.
That's going to go up next year with Lewis Hamilton.
Wait a minute. I'm pretty sure a testicle snuck in there. I'm not totally sure. What? How much are they worth? It may have just been me, gitty and delirious at the end of a show. It's been a long day, Dan. I think there were some things you threw in there subliminally that did not belong in there.
Chris told the governor of Minnesota that he wants to to watch more porn.
No, I just... Dan brought up porn, as you'll hear in the postgame show for most people.
Good tease by me. Yeah, that is Jessica referencing something that has not yet run on the show.
Now, they're all going to listen.
But stay tuned. That's also run live.
What are we doing? Stay tuned.
That's actually a great tease.
Chris Cody, I cannot tell you how bad you were today.
It's inside, though.
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