Transcript of Hour 1: The No Yes (feat. Domonique Foxworth)

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Monday is a company holiday, and it is a country holiday, and we are doing two four-hour live shows. We are doing a show in the morning. What are you laughing about, Roy?

Which country are you talking about, Dan?

Well, Martin Luther King Day is a national holiday. You would think so. Not for long. Well, I wanted it to be for this company as well, but now I am doing, and we are doing two four-hour shows, one in the morning and one live streaming at night. I hope Dominique stops by. I hope a lot of our friends stop by. I've told you guys here recently that there are a handful of people that are doing football exactly the way that I want to listen to the content, the nutrients and the entertainment, Chris Long, Chris Sims, Mina Kimes, and Dominique. Dominique is popping up right through the Super Bowl after the games on Sunday night on his YouTube channel, right after Rams and Bears and Sunday night. And he's going to do that every Sunday night for the rest of the season. It's hard to do that live, and he does it exceptionally well. He is joining us now. And the first thing I wanted to start with him on is I just wanted to play him that Sean Payton sound and just get his thoughts on Sean Payton, who's back at the top of his game.

Sean Payton ain't got no time for reporters.

Sean, having Greenlaw back in this game, his ability to attack downhill in the run game.

How big is that, the timing of it?

Do you want him to attack downhill? What do you know about attacking downhill in the run game? You don't know. All right, that's right. Have him attacking downhill. It's good to have a healthy Trey Greenlaw back in the game.

I love it. I'm normally, so Charlie, my co-host, gives me a hard time because he calls me Captain Empathy because I start feeling sorry for people all the time, no matter what. In that case, I would understand why somebody might feel sorry for that reporter, but I don't. Sean Payton just gave him the perfect opportunity. If you are prepared for that, obviously, some of us or all of us in certain situations do a little bit of fraudulent use terminology, try to sound more interesting and important than we are. But right there, that is an alley-oop. They never ask you a question. He gets a chance to demonstrate his ball knowledge. But instead of doing it, he shriveled up, and we all laugh at him and call Sean Payton a bully.

Well, he's not wrong when he He knows a great deal more than all of us about attacking downfield, but physically, he doesn't. He doesn't know more about attacking downfield than you do.

I mean, he said attacking downhill. We're talking about like Dre Greenlaw, a lineback. Not downfield. That would be throwing a deep pass. He's attacking downhill. I know you to not be like a fraudulent Canes fan. I don't know you to be a fraudulent football guy. I thought you knew ball. The man said downhill, and he was talking about a lineback. We're talking about fitting gaps, baby, taking on fullbacks and shit like that.

All I heard was his arrogance. And I just love when the coaches are arrogant about physicality when they're not the physical ones.

I mean, game-recognized game, right? I like that sweater, though. It's cute.

You look a little bit like my father. Are you going for my father's look fashion-wise?

Well, I mean, just generally, isn't the whole country going very Miami vibe? Although picking... I mean, there's so many different Miami's. Growing up, University of Miami football was the biggest representation of Miami outside of Scarface for me. And becoming older and understanding what the University of Miami is actually like always rubbed me a little bit the wrong way because you're rooting hard for the brash Black kids who have interesting stories and dreadlocks and are being overconfident and take it on the Catholic. You're rooting for that. And then you want them to win. Then you realize the people at the school don't really love them in the way that we love them. And nobody else at the school is like that. It reminds me a little bit of Georgetown. I live down the street from Georgetown now, and I think that's always a running joke that all of us thought Georgetown was a HBCU because of John Thompson and all the Black players on their team. And then you go on that campus and you're like, They are the only Black people here. And they got Kente cloth on their shorts. Miami is the same thing.

What Miami represents, what the rest of the world thought of Miami was like, Edger and James and Warren Sapp, Michael Irving. That's where we had Ray Lewis It's Ed Reid. That's what we thought Miami was. I mean, Jeremy Shaki. That's us. We're looking at Miami, that's Miami. And then, oh, it's actually a bunch of Jeremy's.

Not Shaki, the other one. Since you're in both places, which one is more disparate? Miami's football team in Miami's campus or Dikeme Matumbo, John Thompson, Allen Iverson, and Alonso Mourning representing Georgetown?

It's easy. It's obviously Georgetown because Georgetown had not just the Black players, but they had the Black coach who was very aggressively and publicly Black and made it part of his mission. Like the Kente cloth, that's just so absurd. They had uniforms that had African prints on them. It has Georgetown. If you don't know anything about Georgetown, look it up, man. It is not at all like the campus was built by slaves, and then they had all these basketball players show up and not get paid to work really hard to make a lot of money and make that place even more impressive than it actually is. But I think they tried to give some money back or something. They're trying to make amends. Is Miami doing that? Miami taking care of all these Miami neighborhoods that they get their best athletes out of? I don't know.

You do know.

You show Mike. You do know. Well done. That's not fair.

You're asking Mike for reparations? How is that fair?

I'm not asking anyone for reparations. I know the University of Miami, and this happens. It happened at Maryland. When I was there, the basketball team was winning national championships, and we were winning conference championships and getting blown out in the Orange Bowl and dominating Tennessee in the Beach Bowl. And you know that it's a lot easier to get money from the state. It's a lot easier to raise money from boosters, and it's a lot easier to make renovations. And I went to a public school, so all that stuff is harder to get done. It's easier when people think you're cool and you're good at stuff. So everyone who's benefiting from the University of Miami playing well is not all just make sure you look out for them, too, which I guess they're getting paid now. So that's cool. Shout out, Malaki.

We have a number of different things and people and personality here that are weird, and I hope you haven't heard this sound. You listen to our show, so it might undermine it.

Not this week. I don't listen this week.

You just have a lot going on. Good.

No, I don't listen this week because too many guests. And I don't want to be one of those guests. I don't like all these guests. I wanted you guys to talk and say stuff. Come Zaz, be funny.

So play this- You're saying stuff, player? Play this sound.

We just talked about appropriation. How are you going to throw player out there while dressed like a Cuban when you are none of that? What's the problem? How you love that? What's the problem? It's uncomfortable. Dan loves uncomfortable. Now I know we're in this sweet spot. Dan loves where to get a little tension, baby. What do you know about looking awesome? Nothing, man. I don't know nothing about looking awesome. You do look great. You look like a movie villain. Like a cheap movie, though. This is not a high, not a lot of money put into this movie. You do look like a low-level crime boss.

That is such a good call from Dominic that you do look like a great criminal for a movie that has no budget to get a good criminal.

It feels like if there was a movie where the kids were the unlikely heroes, like spy kids or three ninjas, you look like a villain that's supposed to look scary, but out of friendly, really threatening to eight-year-olds. That guy right there, we can't trust him. He's the bad guy. Spy Kids 8.

Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. Does Zaz look like the villain from a student film? I want to play this sound for you, and I want you to guess who it is. There's been, I promise you, no doctoring whatsoever to this sound. I'm not making this up. This is someone in our universe who was caught while sleeping.

It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's an incredible deep snore from an obviously overweight man, which there are a few of them that we can choose from on this show. I'm not sure who I would point to, but one of them, I don't know, it could be in the studio, maybe.

Let's play it. I want to keep playing until he gets it right. So play it for him and let him take guesses, and let's do it that way. I don't know.

Roy looks like he can sleep pretty good, man. Roy is like a strong sleeper.

I'm going to do this with you until you get it, so go ahead and pick.

Okay, all right. Dan, it's Dan.

It is not. Incorrect.

It's fake Dan.

It is not. It's not Danny Benita's-Dazlo. Stunt Dan. It is not a bad villain from a student movie. No, incorrect.

It's definitely not Mike. Mike would never be called like that. Is it Billy?

What's Billy?

Incorrect. Anybody seeing Billy? Where's Billy at? Incorrect. Who's Billy there? Oh, that has got to be Stoogie. That's my man, Stoogie.

Where's Stoogat? Incorrect. Have you seen Stoogat? Incorrect.

Are you up in there anywhere? No. Is it Jess? It's Jess. That's what it is.

Look how shocked he was. He was actually looked into the camera. He's like, That can't be right.

I was just doing a bit. I was just going to name all the people who used to be on the show more often than aren't That's what I was doing then. I just got lucky.

What do you mean? He would have guessed for 10 weeks straight before he got it if he had to get it right.

Hawk? No, not.

The games this weekend, Dominic, you were very loud about saying the Jags were clearly better than the Bills and would clearly beat the Bills. I thought that you were right until you were wrong.

Yeah, I mean, the Bills ducked on me and they deserve it. Congratulations. I still, which this feels like a Dan Levatar move. But it's also true that I still feel like I watched that game and the bills were not actually better, even though they won, but they certainly deserve it. They got the job done. They have a lot of smoke and mirrors on their defense with disguises, which is super I think he's very impressive. I think McDermott deserves a bunch of credit for what he's done on that side. And Josh Allen played a different type of awesome playoff game, where it wasn't the amazing plays as much as it was just mistake-free and mature. And that team deserved to win, and they won. I was dead-ass or wrong, though, about them not being able to compete with the Jacks because I thought the Jacks were good. I got fooled. I started believing the hype like Tony. But I think-And like me, Dominic, I've managed somehow.

I've managed, this This is really hard to do on two teams this year, to be totally right about them and wrong twice about them because of how the result went. So Jacksonville and the Chiefs, I got it right with what I was saying at the beginning, and then I changed my and trusted. I trusted your analysis on the Chiefs, and I trusted your analysis on the Jags.

Yeah, don't do that. Stop trusting my analysis on anything. Trust your own analysis. I mean, the Jags won eight, nine in a row, and they went into Denver, and I think that was the turning point for me when I was like, All right, I have to ignore the fact that they're the Jacksonville Jaguars. And understand that before the Patriots became the Patriots, they were terrible all the time, too. There can be a turning point for a team. And I watched them go to Denver and destroy that very good Broncos defense. And you saw Trevor Lawrence play awesomely. And I think that was the point where I was like, All right, got to take them seriously. And they played well after that. And then they played a team that was very flawed but had the high-profile quarterback. And I was like, this is a perfect opportunity for a look at us. We're really here now moment. I had at home, and I thought it was going to work. And they ran the hell out of the ball. They couldn't stop them from running the ball. And honestly, a lot of people's criticism is they should have kept running the ball, but they They were moving the ball through the air, too.

They really couldn't stop them, but got an interception at the end of the game, and it cost them at the end. I just think it's also fickle. And you'll see that with any of these teams. When we do these coaching decision things, you can go down the track record. I was thinking about this the other day with John Harbaugh, how if Lamar Jackson doesn't slide to the back of the draft that year and they aren't able to trade back in and get Lamar Jackson, John Harbaugh is fired then. Then Lamar comes in and wins six in a and gets John Harbaugh seven more years. And you can do this for every team. There's these little single plays that change your trajectory. You could do it for Miami in that A&M game, where it's like they won on the final drive, and A&M was five yards from sending it to overtime. They only put up 10 points in that game. We have a whole different conversation about Mario Cristobal right now, deservedly so or not, if that doesn't turn out the way it does. But now Cristobal could get a contract for a zillion dollars into eternity because of what he's done with this program, no matter what happens with the game.

And you could do that for all these teams, but those moments matter. When you have a player like Josh Allen, yeah, those moments fall on your side more than they don't. And I hate the touch push. That was also get that out of here.

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It's a Judge coach, sweetie. Stugatz. How's your say hello?

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

Dominique, you're surprised with Tomlin? That he stepped down. I think I am a little bit surprised, but I also think when you look back on this season, it felt like a last dance type of thing. They had that super old defense that they were paying a ton of money for, and then they went and got Aaron Rodgers, an old quarterback. It felt like Tomlin was like, All right, I'm going to make this last try. And I know no one's reported that there's anything other than a mutual parting of ways. And Rooney suggests that they were surprised by this, but that seems crazy to me. They had to know that was coming, right? If you're Mike Tomlin, you coach there for 19 years, you don't just show up and say, I'm out. This conversation had to be had at some point. They kept it under wraps.

Why would they not tell the truth about that? Why would the Roonies lie about being surprised, or why do you question that part of it? They don't want to be seen as pushing him out?

No, I'm not even sure that they pushed him out. He could have said at the beginning of the year, This is my last run, or they could have said that that you have to go if we don't have any success at the end of the year. I don't think that... I think it's likely that he decided that he was on his way out. I just find it hard to believe that days after a 19-year career or a 19-year career at that organization and a loss in the playoffs, he's just like, Guess what? You all got to find a new coach today. It just feels odd to me. I guess it doesn't matter one way or the other. I do think Mike Tomlin walked away and they didn't fire him, but I hope the Steelers fans are ready for what's coming, and I think they are. I don't think they're foolish. I think they know that it's going to get a little rough. My man, Damoshek. I'm a pro Damoshek guy, though. I know we have to take size on that. Pro Damoshek.

Football America every Monday and Friday. He also does an exceptional job covering football differently the way that Dominic and Chris Long and Chris Sims and Mina do. Let's play this sound from comedian Dan Soter, childhood friend of Mike McDaniel. Listen carefully to Mark Norman and the way that he's pretending to support an interest in sports in the background.

But he'll get a gig, right?

Somewhere else?

Absolutely. In fact, I think he's better off because I think, and listen to me right now, I think it's a shit organization. I think it's ran by an old man that stabbed Mike in the back after he told him he was going to be all right for another season. And the Dolphins. And honestly, Miami as a comedy town, when having a friend that's an NFL coach, you notice you listen more when people talk about your friend. And Troy Akemen shits It's on McDaniel in a way that I'm like, he doesn't like Mike. And me and my friend Chad, who grew up with Mike, were like... Chad was the first one. I was like, I bet Akemen had something to do with it.

And then I was just like, I'm Troy Akemen, looking like white Jay-Z, quarterback that was falling off.

Tua stinks. But people... Listen, I think McDaniel got fired because he tied himself to Tua and they lost. That's a sign of my friend being loyal. As a friend, As a friend, I go, Yeah, he stuck with him. I hope the next team he goes to, the quarterback goes, Well, this guy stuck with him, so I believe in him. So I'll play for. I just hope McDaniel goes and wins 10 Lombardi trophies and then shoves them up, the owner of the Dolphins' asshole, one at a time. I hope the Dolphins never win another game. You're stupid. You're old logo's better. Your new logo looks like a penis jumping through a newvering. Hey. Your fans don't know Ball. A couple of them at the stadium, it was like crazy watching them not knowing to cheer on third down.

Jesus Christ. Fuck them.

Fuck that whole organization. I thought Mark Norman was funnier than Dan there, and I think Dan's the funniest. And me and my friend.

It felt like the responses stopped matching up, too. It was just like the things he was getting more and more, progressively more intense responses to were not the things that were shocking. It felt like after he said we were going to jam trophies up there, he was like, Oh. Then he said something else a little bit more benign. The fans don't know the cheer on third. That was Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. That was delayed. That's where they shoving it up people's butt. That was when you said, Jesus Christ.

Picked a great day to bring Claire to the office.

You're stupid.

Sorry, Claire. I would be like Mark Norman if I were on the hockey show. I would be the best teammate I could, but I don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, Yeah.

Your thoughts on... You gave us some of what you find interesting about Harbaugh. What are your thoughts about McDaniels firing and the fact that the Dolphins weren't able to even get close to anywhere with Harbaugh?

I think if you talk to any of the coaches, they'll say that ownership is incredibly important. I don't know what type of owner you guys have there in Ross, but it does seem like- A bad one, a lousy one.

A bad one.

It seems like he's bad in a different way, though. He's not bad in the way that I think most coaches are concerned. They're concerned about commitment and resources and patience, I guess, and understanding when things are happening and when they aren't and how involved you're going to be. They want the owners to be somewhat involved, but not the final decision maker. So that's a big question. And I imagine that they talk just the same way that any of us do. And if you have enough leverage, you're not going to be one who's going to sign up for something like that. I think that's probably why it appears that Hallbar is going to sign with the Giants, because that feels like an organization that, despite the fact that they haven't hired all that well, has a history of at least staying out of the way the ownership does. And that It becomes attractive to some of these teams. I think also having an owner who is going to be accused of some of the things that Ross has been accused of, like trying to go behind his coaches back. If you got other options, that's not somewhere you're going to go.

And then on top of it, the story of him walking in and firing him while he has already promised that he's going to keep him around, that stuff. If I were a coach with some leverage, I'm not going to that place or not going to work for that guy.

I have not I heard the concussion stuff talked about the way that Darren Waller talked about it on Jonny Manzell's podcast. Listen to this and tell me what you think.

But I was watching most of the training camp, so I'm on a sideline. I'm watching this man throw darts every practice, bro. It was just like, what the fuck am I watching? I had never seen the anticipation and the accuracy out there. So it's like, I think from my standpoint, the skillset for him is still there. Where I think maybe the disconnect comes from, seeing it translate. I think there might be some... There could be some trauma still stored in his body from what he's gone through with the head injuries and stuff. Because there's this book called The Body Keeps the Score, which is the number one book about trauma. They talk about how trauma was first with war veterans and what they went through there. And they'll come home and they'll see a car sitting by itself in a grocery store parking lot, but in their body and their brain will tell them that car has an explosive in it when it's just a car sitting at in Publix or something. And so I think I can notice him trying to make things happen in the game. He's trying to pull the trigger, but it's almost like his body and his system won't-Allow him to do it.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like if there's a way for him to find some healing in that regard, I think the skill set is definitely still there, like you said.

Tom?

Yeah. I mean, I think it's hard to say that you know or believe something like that. I think that you can point to his experience and understand that there could be some issues as a result of the concussions. But also, some of the concerns that he had were concerns that... Some of the reasons why he's not playing well are concerns that were made about him at the beginning of his career. So I'm in no position to evaluate how much trauma he's holding in his body and how that impacts the way that he plays. There are tons of players who've had plenty of trauma who on to play just fine. And I'm sure there's plenty who have had minor issues that have sidetracked them altogether. It's super hard to say. I think more than anything, what you worry about for not just two, but all the players is their future, generally, as a result of the hits to the head. Because while those were really sensational hits that we saw and we remember, the science doesn't necessarily support that those are any worse for you than just the repeated fact that O'Liman and D-Liman bang heads together have subconcussive episodes multiple times a game throughout the course of the game.

I understand that Walt is talking about a different thing. He's talking about an emotional or mental response. He's not necessarily talking about the impact of the deterioration of the brain from the Tau protein that's in there as a result of concussions. He's talking about just like, he's scared, I guess, for lack of a better term, that he's antsy because of how violent those experiences were. I certainly can't has it I guess on that, but some of his poor play recently. It looks like some of his poor play early. Don Levatard. I took my son to the barbershop, get a haircut, and my man gave out some limp dap.

Oh, no.

Damn, damn, damn. Stugatz. I disowned him. I threw him right under the bus. I was like, Who's kid is that? Out here dishing out here dissing out limp dap? This is the Don Levatard show with the Stugatz.

Let's speed him up.

Dominique, not a small thing. Sam Darnold, questionable with an oblique injury. This whole game hinges on him playing a clean game. Do you see this popping up its ugly head?

Yeah, I think Ginger Cubs, they're trying to protect him in all ways possible. They're not going to ask him to do any more than he has to. I think the 49ers defense is beat up to the point where I'm not sure that Sam Darno's oblique injury is going to be an issue, and that Seahawks defense is insane. Dominic, you know about that 12th man? Yeah, I know about that 12th man. 12th man doesn't always matter, though, unfortunately. That team can lose at home. Honestly, that defense might look even better when they're on the road and they can communicate. But yeah, the 12th man will certainly help.

Dominique, why does it seem that so many people are shying away from picking the phone calls?

Hold on, I'm sorry, Jeremy. Cut the music. Cut the music. My man Zaz has been having a rough-ass week. You don't get to say much. You get to stammering and stuttering, and you got a chance to ask a question. We're speeding up a guy like me who has real football information, and you said, know about that 12th man? Short and sweet, dog. Yeah, I know about that 12th man. All right, get my music going again. Let's go back to these questions. I'm sorry, Jeremy. I just... It's all right.

People don't really let me speak here.

Dominique, why does it seem that so many people are shying away from picking the Broncos?

Yeah, I think we have this thing where the team that has a buy, we forget about them. And we also just saw Josh Allen play an incredible game. And I think it's fair to sour on the Broncos a little bit because we think of this as a defensive center team, and their defense has fallen off in the last several weeks. It hasn't been as good as it was all season long. But with a week to prepare, I think Sean Payton is going to design some big plays for Bo Nicks, and that's the other reason. We ultimately always fall back on how good is the quarterback for a good reason. And in that situation, you got Bo Nicks versus Josh Allen. I think that's part of the reason why people are soured on it. And it's a decent match up for the Bills. They aren't outmatched in any way.

Faster. Faster.

Dominic, will Will the bearer season end on Sunday?

No. Steph.

No or yet? You said faster. Yeah, but he can't say no and yes.

I say yes.

He can't say no and yes.

You're asking him to be. He quickly changed his mind.

Stafford's Fingers.

Yeah, it doesn't matter. I mean, he's playing incredibly well this season. The cold doesn't matter. He's from that division. Historically, he's comfortable in that weather. I think that team will be just fine, and they run the hell out of the ball, so they're going to be fine. The finger is not going to matter. Who should the Dolphins hire? Brian Flores, again. Bring him back. He was doing a good job.

Why is Matt Naguih getting so many interviews?

He's staying close enough to Patrick Mahomes. You're going to get a lot of love. But I do think retreads are not necessarily a bad thing. It sounds like a bad word, but it does mean that you've had some experience and you've gone away to understand what you've done wrong and how you could come back and maybe do a better job. Is C. J. Stroud any good? Yeah, CJ Stroud in that game is an absurd thing to watch. C. J. Stroud that has incredible throws in that game. If you take out the five ridiculous fumbles, he's playing great. I know how stupid that sounds.

You can't say that. What is stupid? No, I can't say if you take out the five ridiculous fumbles. You can't say if you take out the gunshot, Abraham Lincoln really enjoyed the play.

I mean, that's a fair point. However, the point is, most players who have five ridiculous fumbles also throw interceptions and miss open targets. You watch C. J. Stroud and you're like, damn, that's a good throw. Like four or five times in that game, you're like, Damn, that's a good throw. That's a good job navigating pocket. And then he just holds it to the ball too long and tries to make a pass he can't make.

Will Mike McDaniel ever be a head coach again?

Yeah, he'll definitely be a head coach again. I think his ability to design a running game, no matter who he has, is going to make him an attractive offensive coordinator once again, and someone will give him another shot.

We mentioned CJ Straub, the Texas defense. Are they going to take out the Patriots?

That Texas defense is insane. I think the question is, can Drake May hit deep passes against that defense? As good as it is, it's like middle of the pack for stopping the explosive play. So that's the question. I think that defense is... If that defense was the Cowboys defense or a more marquee team, we'd be losing our minds for how good and how fun that defense is to watch.

Yes or no, Drake May is the league's best deep passer?

This year, yes.

I have a Drake May stat for you. Drake May, this is courtesy of Ian Harrods. What do you say? Drake May is second in the NFL and EPA per drop back when working from a clean pocket. But when you can pressure him, he is also second.

Yeah, he's still second, But that second is worse. It's not as if his play doesn't fall off. The play falls off. It just still keeps him at the top. His ability, I think, to navigate inside the pocket and also his ability to turn those pressures into explosive runs really helped him in this game. But going up against the Texans, it might be a little tougher because they do this cool thing where they just collapse the whole pocket around you and there's nowhere to go, or they'll beat you around the edge. And no one's really ever open. Those corners are special.

He is live on Sunday, right after the Rams and bears, and Sunday, every week, the rest of the season on YouTube. It's the Charlie Kravitz Show with Dominique Foxworth. Thank you, Dominique. We need a pick on this game before he gets out of Miami or Indiana. We need a pick. We need a pick. We need a Miami or Indiana. From the guy who just brought you, no, yes.

I'm definitely going to go with Miami. I feel like I'm a part of the show in some ways. I love Miami, and I got so much more, Dan. At some point, I'm going to send you some notes. I got ideas for segments for your show, all right?

All right, well, join us on Monday. We're doing two shows on Monday. We're doing a live stream. We're going to be here all day on Monday having fun. Dominique, it's good.

Never mind. I went Indiana. It's good to see Okay, there he goes again, changing his mind.

No, yes. Another no, yes. Look at the look on his face there when he saw that that was indeed right, that it was Jessica who was snoring that way. That is the face of a shocked person. Now, he said that's also the face that he made when Harbaugh was let go because he said he was shocked and not surprised. This looks like shocked and surprised. This is Dominique Foxworth learning that Jessica snores like a lumberjack who's been working seven days without sleep.

How did you guys get that audio? Did she fall asleep while on the Zoom? What happened?

Lehman betrayed her. Her boyfriend betrayed her. Did she fall asleep like that on the Zoom? You think that's how hard we're working them in Metalark Media.

She fall into a deep slumber while working.

I tried to think of the way that you guys could get that. That did not feel like a crime. Honestly, I was like, How do you get someone snoring like that without committing a felony? I thought maybe she, I don't know, had a long See you later, Dominic.

Again, The Charlie Kravitz Show with Dominic Foxworth on YouTube/ESPN. Youtube. Com/espn Sunday Nights. I saw during that segment the complaint that Dominic had, that some of our fans do, where they're like, I don't want guests. I don't want to listen to guests. I want to listen to the show. And what I noticed during that, that's a knock on the door. That was very loud. Another friend of the show is here. Nick Wright. Who do you got between Miami and Indiana?

I like Miami plus the points.

I like Miami on the money line. I like the fact that Miami, a couple of weeks ago, played a team damn near identical in talent to Indiana and Ohio State and controlled the whole game and won. I think Miami wins their national championship at home, and Mike Ryan becomes the most insufferable person in sports.

Second most.

The thing that I was beginning to say is that Mike Ryan clearly wasn't listening to anything that Dominic was doing because I saw him the entire time. He was just refreshing Caine's insight for new information. I was watching him. All he's doing is University of Miami stuff. So when anyone around here is talking about anything that's not University of Miami related, he has zero interest in doing his job, doing the show, paying attention. What did you learn? You learned that Indiana's right tackle problem, correct?

Yeah, that's a weak spot that you can attack. Miami has played... A couple of teams are really good at picking off the opponent. Notre Dame, but they had a new DC at the time. Miami played a relatively clean game against Notre Dame. But SMU and Louisville, they can turn the quarterback over. Now, Miami is playing a bit of a different style. They're doing work in the middle of the field. However, Indiana has neutralized teams in the middle of the field. I think this is a great matchup. I think it's going to be a really close game. I'm a little worried about that. I'm more concerned right about how the portal is going for Miami because this was not how it was supposed to go. I think anytime you're playing for a national championship, you really want to win it. But I think you got special players right now on defense. I don't know if Miami can develop players to that level. I think Miami is probably going to take a step back next year from an overall talent perspective. If you don't have that quarterback position addressed, you may very well finally win an ACC, but you may not have the same CFP success that you're having right now.

I really want to win on Monday. Obviously, you have skin in the game now, all right? But 23 years ago, the last time the games were in the national championship, did you care emotionally like this? I was devastated after we lost. Yeah, the Miami Hurricanes were my favorite team back then, but this is something different. If this ends with Miami and probably lifting the national title, yeah, it's the greatest sports victory in my life. I care. I care too much, probably. No, but you still cared very much. Yeah. I feel like you have a very small hand in it in trying to make people realize that the standard wasn't adhered to.

Not that small. You've invested in all the ways that a business person and a fan can invest, and lest we lose sight of perspective, because we've never done what we've done this week, where we do a week of pregame. For 20 years, we've prided ourselves on we don't preview shows shows. And the reason that we're doing it is because of the size of this game. And do not let it obscure that no matter what happens from here, the University of Miami has already had a tremendously successful season that has fixed everything that was wrong. That doesn't mean that the transfer portal will not hurt them next year, but all of the questions and critiques that have been formed around this show have been rebutted by the last three games, this coach and this team. And the other thing that's in play here, this was also in play in 2001, as Miami tried to distance itself from some parts of its past that were more polarizing. It's fine if you don't think Miami is Cinderella. It's fine if you don't believe in an underdog story. But you simply cannot say that there's anything about this team other than maybe the polarization of Carson Beck that I don't totally understand that's unlikable about this Miami team.

There's nothing that this Miami team has done Nothing. You don't have anything reputationally that you can stick this Miami team that would make it representative of some of the worst parts of Miami's program and city's stereotypical past. This is a likable football team.

I'm not so sure because you sample how the nation talks about this team. I think, look, in this sport, 10 seeds. I know there's a playoff expansion that hasn't allowed for it, but teams that have faced the adversity and defeats that Miami has endured this season, they don't get an opportunity to play for these. It's a hugely improbable story, even though they are a program that is rich with tradition. This should be talked about as one of the great Zindarellas of all time, and yet they're facing one of the losing-est programs of all time. If you want to tell me the world is a simulation, you look at this title game and you see Cubans everywhere in a sport that never features Cubans. It being played in Miami Miami. Miami somehow being in it when they were, as Chris Fowler mentioned, 100 to one before a committee said, All right, we're going to change our minds on head-to-head mattering. And Indiana being in it, this is insanity. It has pinched me type of stuff, and I hope that the game lives up to it. And I think the playing styles of the two teams does lend itself to being one of those super dramatic games, not super easy on the eyes, not points galore, but the game literally really hanging in the balance on every snap, and I think that's an amazing place to live in.

Dan, you know about that nail butter?

I do. Zazlo, you know about that broadcaster who doesn't say things correctly?

You want to know what were the kids doing? I think I'd be into this game if it wasn't my team playing in it. If you just put in another helmet that had the same adversity, that had the same 20 years of struggling. If you put USC in there, I think I'd be as up for it because it's such a great story.

Sounds like the roadrunner trying to start running.

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