Transcript of Hour 1: Nick Wright Takes a Shot (feat. Nick Wright)

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Where are you guys on this? I don't want to contaminate the jury pool. What do you want to know from nick Wright about what this bet actually is or isn't or where my confusion is on what the bet is?

Well, I think I want clarification on your confusion because you're under the impression that this this was a bet for a white Corvette.

I woke up this morning with the empty feeling in my stomach that I had to get nick Wright a white Corvette, and that was going to be pricey.

However, we reviewed the tape and we didn't get confirmation of that bet made with nick Wright. And nick Wright, although we'll give him the floor now, he has conceded that this is now complicated. Yeah.

Hi, guys. Nice ask, Scott, Dan. You look resplendent, as always. This This is why it is frustrating to gamble for real money with people that are what I would call more of a casual, other people would say, not problem gambler. It was very clear we were betting $5,000. And then over the course of the weekend, Levatard, who also has a very odd text schedule, which which is like you text him in the middle of the day, it might go unresponded, but then he'll text you at 1: 30 in the morning as if we're not both on the East Coast, is sending me pictures of white Corvettes. And while I thought the bit with Greg Cody was funny, I didn't understand it. I then text Dan yesterday about, Hey, just so we're on the clear here, how do you, if by some chance, even though I knew there was no chance, never a doubt, if by some chance the chief's lost, how do you want me to get you your money? He text back, I don't want a white Corvette. I'm like, Yeah, okay, that's cool, but I just want to know your zell. And then this morning, he texted me, This is going to look so stupid in front of your house and a picture of a beat-up old bad Corvette.

Meanwhile, I have a weekly Betting budget, I had incorporated $5,000 of it to this bet. So if somehow I...

I told you he bets big.

No, I bet. I gamble for real, guys. I gamble. And here's the other piece of it. I am, as happenstance, by chance, in about nine hours, playing in what will likely be the largest poker game of my entire life, to which I will need bundles of money. And this 5,000 isn't going to make or break that, but it would be helpful. And now I'm in this weird spot where it's like, if Dan really thought we were betting a Corvette, does Did that make the bet meaning we weren't really betting anything because who's going to find, ship, and buy a Corvette? Am I now a bad guy because I texted Dan my wire number this morning? Because I'm going to want that money. And if we want to parlay that down the road for the sake of the show to where this is just 5,000 in escrow, and when it gets to a large enough figure to where it could pay for a white Corvette, I guess my comfortability with that is going to depend on how tonight's poker game goes, guys. Good to see you.

This Dan Lebitard, off on the side texting you, I don't want a white Corvette, trying to get himself away from that bet he made, only to, moments later, turn to a microphone and say, nick Wright has to take this car. It's unbelievable, even for Dan.

I mean, I don't... And here's the thing. I'm not opposed to A white Corvette. I'm not like Greg Cody, where I think it would... Greg, that was unfair. I take that back, and I have too much respect for you. Take a cheap shot. I would be opposed to a white Corvette if it were my only means of transportation, but as a side car, because I already have what is a ridiculous car. It's awesome, but it's a ridiculous car because I got it for my wife, but it's our only car. It is a baby powder blue G-Wagon. So that car already draws some eyes. So if I got-Well, see, this is the thing.

You put me in such an unflattering... No, you put me in such an unflattering light there without allowing for the fact that you're the one who suggested that the bet should be the Greg Cody actual Corvette that he didn't like from his wife with the pin number.

That is the funny, the funniest outcome. But also, Dan, that's because once you start sending me these pictures and then I respond with, well, if this is where we're actually going with it, here's an actual cool one. If you checked my Google history. It would be old-school white Corvette, South Florida. I don't want that. But what I did say was, if we're just going to go full sake of the bit, then we need to reach out to Greg's insurance company, because If I know anything about Greg Cody, he's had the same insurance company since you walked into an office and they handwrote the slip for you. They definitely have his history, and we can look up, we can track down that white Corvette and then make the current owner an offer that they can't refuse. If the funniest outcome is that that car does become a part of this universe, but I need that five grand, bro. I would have bet an extra five on the Chiefs last night. This can't cost me money. What can't happen here is the Chiefs violate the fraudulent lions to the point to where Brian Branch, the biggest, toughest guy in safety in the league, is near tears in the locker room saying, and I quote, I got bullied, which I checked with the league office.

Juju is going to have to sit out, recess, Thursday and Friday because of that. No bullying on this campus. He's almost in tears talking about it. And somehow I feel like I lost money. That can't happen. I'm just telling you right now. So we can do whatever white Corvette stuff we want, but at some point, either in cash that is handed to Mike Ryan that he holds for me for the next time I'm in South Florida, or via... I'm not really a crypto guy.

You're not going to bully me, sir. This is a bullying. I'm not going to be bullied.

This is the difference between a hijinks better and a real better.

Yeah, you're messing with the guy's business. You don't want to do this.

Dan just wants to do, Hey, this is fun.

You're going to stop being friends with this I'll get this guy real soon if you keep playing.

No, it's just, here's the other thing. The other thing is this. If I can just reveal a little bit more. I then was in a very awkward position because what I won't allow is for me to be free rolling somebody. And it felt like once we were texting about Corvettes, I'm like, Wait, are we in a situation where if the Chiefs win, I'm going to want my money? And if the Lion When Dan's going to be like, You don't owe me any money. And I don't feel, as a guy who's been gambling since I'm 12 years old, I don't feel comfortable with that. I'm not going to free roll you.

I don't even know what that expression is.

Free A free roll? A free roll is a zero-risk proposition where I can win, but I can't lose.

Dan thought it was free bread.

Well, it was to nick, given that he knew the Chiefs were going to win and ended up being free.

I mean, yeah, that's the other thing. That's the other thing. And I don't know how much time we have here, but can everybody for the fifth... No, it hasn't been that long of doubt. Fourth straight year, bend the damn knee. My God, you guys. How much, how many times does this team have to show the Eagles? Did you guys read Rucini's column this weekend? The Eagles anonymous players being like, We're just beat up and tired. We went to one hole super Super Bowl in a row. This team plays 20 or 21 games every single year. And the last half decade, like clockwork, people find a reason. This year is going to be different. Watch out for those September champs Buffalo bills. I've had to listen to the margin of victory champs, the Lions. The Lyons, the biggest, baddest, toughest team on the block, has a fourth and inches from the goal line and splits Jared Goff out because they are so desperate to prove to the world they don't miss Ben Johnson, who would just run it down somebody's throat. And You don't even know the rules on your own trick plays. You're cheap-shotting after the fact.

You go up 10 to 6 and then get boat raced the rest of the way. And obviously, it's going to end with the Chiefs winning. Obviously, they're the best team. Obviously, they're the most complete team. Everybody had the lions atop their hierarchy. Now the Chiefs knocked them down a peg. Everyone had the Ravens as the greatest one and two team in NFL history. Now, their season's over. The Chiefs have only won three games this year, which is disappointing. But in those three games, they have ended Russell Wilson's career, ended the Ravens season, and ended the lion's aura of invincible, and the biting your kneecaps quickly pivoted to, We We're not bullied. We got pushed off the swing set. And so, yeah, the Chiefs are back. Dan, look for that car, and I need that money.

That team's dead.

nick, before we let you go, just 48 hours after you said LeBron James could play at an all-star level at the age of 50. It was announced he was out for a month at age 40 with sciatica. Your response.

My response is, very rarely will do you get, for a hypothetical, a real-life test to see who's right and who's wrong. Lebron James is going to miss maybe a month of the season with sciatica, an old guy injury. Let's see if he's an all-star this year. My guess is he is. Checkpoint me. What about 10 years from now? I'm just telling you. What about 10 years from now? All I'm telling you is, if at 40 turning 41, he can miss the the majority of the time to become an All-Star. Listen, if he's not an All-Star this year, I'll fold my hand and say I was wrong. He will be voted in, no doubt. Well, listen, Mike, I know if you want to... I know you reran the tape of our bet. When we were discussing this before, I didn't put any qualifiers on how LeBron James at age 50 would be an All-Star. I just said that guy would be an All-Star at age 50. And if he's voted in this year despite having the most old man of old man injuries, which is my ass hurts, then I feel like I won the bet.

I think we actually brought up that possibility. But Dan is jealous with how aggressively you move the goalpost.

See you later, nick. Thank you. His podcast. Five thousand dollars in pennies is what Greg Cody has suggested.

How would you feel about that? Five hundred thousand pennies arriving here.

That would be a pain in the ass, but I'm already never betting money with Dan again, so it is what it is. The thing is this. You just zell me. You got my phone number. I'll just... And I'm not... Again, how about... You know what? Binding. Here's what it is. Binding because I'm a man of honor. This is how I would like to handle this. We can figure out the white Corvette thing moving forward. However, let's see how tonight's card game goes. If I win, you can distribute that five grand amongst the shipping container. And if I lose, I'm going to need it.

Okay. How did it get? I like this guy, dude.

We love you.

No more for you over there, big guy.

But we all agree.

Tomorrow's shipping container, today's shipping container.

Not right now. Because Tony killed off the chief, too. So he's not allowed. Yeah, Tony said no.

Oh, yeah, that's true.

I'll take Tony's place. I want a piece of that. That's fair.

We'll allow that. I told Tony he can have the Corvette, though. I told Tony that you wouldn't-We can work on the Corvette in the background. You wouldn't want the Corvette so he could have the Corvette, I told him. Because he's riding shotgun with me on That chief's offense of the last 18 games was the actual chief's offense.

Okay, well, listen.

Tony is out of the wheel. Tony is out of the wheel.

Tony is got a shotgun with you in the white Corvette and your horrific football takes. That's fine. I do like Louis. He says hello to me every time. You guys can divvy it up as you see fit, but let's just hopefully you guys get it. But again, man of honor, I might need it. Play well today. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'll text you guys updates.

See you guys. Jared Jeremy off mic to himself under his breath. You're pathetic as you were just doing your thing. You're a little bit here.

nick, why is this-No, no, no.

It just sounds like Jeremy's out in a whole lot.

No, no, no, no, no.

Although if you want Jeremy to be out, we'll accept. Yeah, that's not fair.

nick, why is this card game so big?

It's just a lot of money. It's a lot of money, Dan.

Sometimes you have to explain things to Dan.

Is it streaming anywhere? No, I don't think so.

No, this is a part. I thought you regularly I truly played in games that were a lot of money. Why was that?

I do. He does. I do. But this is-It's well known. I got to say this quietly because I got to take my wife somewhere, and she might be right there. This is a bigger game than I probably should be playing in. It's at a billionaire's penthouse, but I think I have a huge edge. I played in it once before. I lost, but it was a call it an investment. And so this is a big swing. This is a big swing. This game could be a brand new white Corvette. Now, I wouldn't spend the money on that, but yeah, this is real. Listen, man, you work as hard as me. You have all these extra jobs, you do all these things. It's really just so you can live the exact life you want to live. And what that means is Monday night, I'm going to go take a shot. I'm going to go take a big shot. So I'll see how it goes. And then hopefully I win, and then the shipping container and everyone else wins. And hopefully, the only loser in this is Dan and his Ascot.

See you guys. See you later. Good seeing you, nick. Thank you for making the time.

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I'm going to send him a white corvette anyway. I'm going to figure out a way to send him the one that Billy's talking about there that has no transmission.

We'll track down my I'll get on that.

He got you how to do that, though. Going through your insurance paperwork would be the way to do that.

Yeah, I'll get on that.

You could give it to Tony if you want.

You'll get on that. Yeah, I like that one.

No, I will. I'll get on it.

I wanted to ask you guys about something from the sports weekend that I think is probably going to go under the radar a little bit, but Tiger Woods is now emerging from his seventh back surgery. It is lumbar disk replacement. I don't know if any of you have ever had back pain, but when you have back pain, there's like nothing else going on in your life. So over the last four years, one of the greatest ever and icon for all time, a sport changer, over the last four or five years, he's only played in like 15 tournaments, and four of them are 36 holes, and you can use a cart. In terms of how aging presents itself in front of the immortals, it usually isn't quite that stark, where my back hurts because of this game. I can't play it if my back isn't right. The reason that I never caught Jack Nicklaus is because his back went bad, because the human back isn't meant to do that that many times. Tiger Woods, seven back surgeries. I'm assuming he's physically and fundamentally broken every time he gets up, and I'm assuming that part of his journey has had pills in it because there is pain all the time in a way that is unreasonable.

I don't say that recklessly. I say it like he has talked about some of the things that are required to stay on top of that sport. I can't imagine how much pain he's in.

I mean, it's been in the news. It's not reckless to know what was going in the past with him.

But how could it not be would be the place that I would start with you. But then I'd go another place, right? Because obviously, any one of us would say, Yeah, worth it. Worth it if you get to beat Tiger Woods. Right up until I give you the singular back pain and say every morning you're getting up with that and doctors are going to try and fix it for 10 years with seven surgeries and it's just going to keep getting worse, worse. It's never going to get better. It's just you're bleeped for life. You're going to be in pain for life. I know everybody would say worth it right up until you wake up with back pain.

Help me understand, because you have to assume he hires the best back surgeons available. If you're having a seventh back surgery, does that mean the first six didn't quite work?

He also got in that wreck. That was not part of the script. But I do think Tiger Woods would accept everything that came his way to remain being Tiger Woods, a guy who at his peak was bigger than the sport itself.

Agreed. I'm just saying once pain arrives singularly with mortality, When it's this overt, I can play 15 tournaments, and four of them are going to be the same one, and it's going to be in a cart, and it's going to be 36 holes because what I used to be, I ain't that anymore. But I love it so much that I'm going to keep trying because maybe I can beat Jack because Daddy raised me to be Jack. All I'm telling you is when the back pain is that bad, I understand everybody would say it's worth it because anybody listening to this would say, Yeah, I'd like to be Tiger Woods. I'm just saying that back pain is singular. It stops your life in its tracks. You don't think about anything else once you get out of bed in the morning, and the first thing that meets you is it hurts to get out of bed in the morning.

Some people have back pain for free.

Don't get paid what they get paid to drive in a car and play in the tournament that he does. It's like, Yeah, that's terrible. But also, he has access to things that people don't have.

Yeah, my grandpa didn't have the benefit of having the back pain and being Tiger Woods. He just got to be Bob Galata.

Okay, so he has 15 majors. He won't give back the 2019 Masters, obviously. But if you tell Tiger, Hey, we're going to take away your 2008 US Open, your 2007 PGA Championship, and your 2006 Open Championship, and you lose 30% of the back pain, but also 30% of the income or whatever that came from that. Do you think he takes that?

That's one option. I have another one. He's worth, it says the internet, 1. 3 billion, 500 million. No, that's-For no back pain? You give up 500 million, you now have 800 million. No more back pain.

But he gets a white Corvette. Got to be a billionaire.

You get to keep the majors. With my scenario, you get rid of 500 million, but you keep the... What do you think between Billy and I's game? Do you think he gives up a chunk of his money or some majors?

Would he give up 500 million to keep three majors?

Yes, I think he would. I don't think he'd have to think about it. I think he would do that easily.

You think he'd give up 500 million?

Yes, because He's Tiger Woods. He can win that money back in endorsements.

No, he can't. That's part of the stipulation. He can never go over 800 million. He'll never be a billionaire again. God, he'll be so poor. He can't. It's impossible.

He can still get in money he's already getting in, but there's no new bigger deals to recoup that money.

I think he's going to do okay.

I want to ask you guys this because you guys have heard me say before, some form of money doesn't buy you happiness, but it helps with the down payment. I would say that most people listening to this, if they have money problems, there aren't a lot of problems bigger than money problems. But some of them would say, No, my pain is a bigger problem than my money. And once you get to a stratosphere where what you're talking about is, Tiger Woods's yacht is going to be the same. He lost that much in a divorce already. He could lose it again. If I eliminated some of the pain that he's walking around in to just let him play golf without pain, I'm that he would pay a great deal of money to have that.

Well, that's why I'm taking away some of his accolades. Now, he's not that close. He goes from 12 majors or for 15 majors to 12 majors. Does he trade majors for health? And he can't play anymore.

Can I make it simpler for you guys, though? What would I have to pay you to endure back pain that wasn't going to get better? How much- 1.

3 billion is good.

That's the-Yeah, but that's the- That's a good number. I'll start right there. To Dan's point, though, if all All of a sudden, you get 1. 3 bill, but your life stinks the rest of the way. No, it doesn't. I have 1. 3 billion dollars. I think you guys are underestimating terrible back pain for the rest of your life. I think you're underestimating 1. 3 billion dollars. Dude, I think I would just take my life as it is now, as opposed to getting it- Instead of $1 billion.

Dude, I mean, I'm agonizing back pain for the- Are you not selfless? Wow, you guys are- Do you know how much good you can do with that money? $1.

3 billion.

It's super easy for you guys to say yes to this.

As I wheel in to our 12th national title celebration.

It's also not like back pain where he can't walk. He can't play golf for a weekend without it hurting him.

The pain I'm talking about is like every morning you're in pain getting out of bed.

If you have seven surges in 10 years, something's really wrong with your body. That's right.

The selfless good I'm going to do is winning 12 Natties with the University of Miami as Arch Manning plays for them.

Let me ask you guys- Did you take Arch?

From yet- I'm proud stockholder.

You would take him next year?

He looked good.

He looked good. Your voice went up when you said, No, he looked good.

He comes back, right? He's not going- He looked really good. He's not going in draft this year.

He looked good, man. He looked good.

Mike has been doing deep dive It's the last three weeks on how Arch Manning looks against pressure. He actually looks in the pocket the way, and this is something that you can feel, right? Because I thought the easiest betting mismatch in that Texas, Oklahoma game was how good that Oklahoma Oklahoma line is against how bad that Texas offensive line is. But Archmanning has some moments young amid the frenzy where he looks like... There was only one young quarterback I saw yesterday, young quarterback, that looked in the pocket this way, and it was Drake May, where you're like, Oh, he's figured out how to move around in there. He's totally comfortable back there. He's feeling things correctly now.

Over the course of 40 years, the Patriots are going to end up being bad for three of those years, and the Dolphins did nothing with those three years.

They put a couple of 4-12 seasons together, and Drake May is now obviously the first-round talent. When you put an organization around it that's not Cleveland or Carolina, that withstands Jared Mayo, gets rid of him, and then makes it Vrabel, the Bills have an instant challenger in the division because we can all see, Oh, that quarterback can do that. Give Archmanning a minute, okay? Because it's fair- Too bad.

No more stock. I bought the dip. I tried to tell you. Tried to tell you. Red River. Weird game.

Yeah, it always is. Texas now number seven, ahead of Miami in the future rankings. Don Lebatard.

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A penis?

Yes.

You know what? If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis.

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The thing that I wanted to say from yesterday, and I want to ask this question because it's going to skip on the radar from the football of yesterday because I think many of us learned together, Jacobi Brissette's there back up, and it's a close game. It's nice. It was comforting to see Jacobi Brissette back out there doing Jacobi Brissette things. But the things that happen in the Colts locker room before that game that make them one of the good teams in the league that can escape on one of those weird Sundays where Arizona has no business being in a game, but their defense is really good and the Colts offense is really good. So the Colts offense did things to the Arizona defense. But Also, before the game, Anthony Richardson is doing something with those elastic bands and shatters an orbital bone. I can't even imagine how horrific this was in the locker room where he ends up in the hospital because one of these bands has snapped in his face and now he's hospitalized. But also during that game, they lose their number one corner to a concussion from just colliding during warmups with a teammate.

What I wanted to ask you guys, if you're the Colts in that circumstance, and they have a down game and talked afterward about, Yeah, that was weird. Our energy was totally off because we were worried because our guy was headed to the hospital and another one had a concussion. Do you think your team is haunted? Do you leave the locker room saying, I don't want to play today. Everything here is haunted. That's two, not one, I believe there are ghosts here. I don't want to play football today.

Jim Irsay, having a hell of a time in the afterlife.

Travailius Ward is their number one cover corner, and he gets concussed before the game. All of a sudden, Brissette's like, I wish I'd done that myself.

It looked like you got knocked out. He was running full speed and hit a guy that looked like a fridge, and all of a sudden, he was laying lifeless almost on the field.

I wanted to ask you, this happened twice in college football. So the Arkansas-Tennesee game, did you see that the coach's calm box, which looks like a microwave from 1950. They knocked out all the comms between the coaches because a kid hit a giant thing that shouldn't be that close to the field that seems dangerous. And in a game, I was watching a kid carted off in an ambulance who the week before in Tennessee or two weeks before ran into a brick wall because it's too close to those two-ton Baluga Whale goalposts. Should the brick wall and the coach comm machine be those giant things near violent people moving very quickly? Does that make any sense to you guys?

No. Brick wall was too close. I think we saw the pitfalls of having the brick wall there at the back of the end.

That ranks right up there with photographers being about an inch and a half from the end line on an NBA court and players plowing into photographers. Same thing.

What did you guys make of nick Wright sticking out his chest on the idea that the lions were bullied? Because I just look, their offense seems like if it would be on the road occasionally against really good defense, it could be slowed just because that's what we've seen happen with Green Bay. It didn't happen against Baltimore. It happened against Green Bay, and it happens against the Chiefs. And that whole game ends up swinging because the Chiefs score a countdown at the end of the first half, get the ball, and score another countdown to start the second half, and now Detroit's just chasing.

The Amonra, St. Brown drop proved to be pivotal. That totally ruined their chances in that game. When you look back on it, that totally changed the game.

He never drops the ball.

Never.

He's great.

What is that? Can you guys get me a drops number? I remember that Larry Fitzgerald had more tackles than drops at one point. I know DeAndre Hopkins went multiple seasons without a drop. I'm finding it maddening the amount of people like Brian Thomas, Tony. That guy. How many times? How many times does he drop balls?

Third and seven. And it's for the game. We're driving down the field.

That's twice this season. It's a catch I would make, Dan. That's twice this season.

But then he makes a catch where it gets bobbled He's running full speed behind him.

He catches it, scores a touch on.

And then Travis Hunter is nine feet past the line scrimine.

So what are we doing?

Waddle also had a bobbling catch where he's like, caught it on the ground, like sliding four feet.

I see great. Look, man, the field is not big enough for the athletes on it, okay? Because I saw this weekend in Alabama, they're playing Wild Cat with Proctor. He's 366 pounds. The fridge was a novelty at 320 because they just hand him the ball. This guy's taking screen passes and running the Wild Cat. He's 40 pounds heavier than William, the refrigerator, Perry. They're throwing him screen passes.

The way Drake May moves, and then there's Tua.

The field's not big enough for these human beings.

That's what I'm doing now. With my football experience, I am just looking at every quarterback at college, NFL. I'm just like, Tua couldn't do that. Oh, wow. Tua could never do that. Couldn't do that either.

So you guys are just all out in all the ways you guys have run, and you're wondering why Tua doesn't want to take all the blame when you guys are just done with all of the careers of people in Dolphins uniform.

I just hate hearing him talk. Yeah. It makes me so angry.

You used to love hearing McDaniel and Tua talk. Remember, you loved hearing him talk during the preseason when he ripped floor and gave you the interview while you were scratching your balls the entire time. Yeah.

I mean, that was a year ago now.

But you loved hearing him talk then. You couldn't believe how great it was to hear him talk then. Viori. Wow, they got that up fast.

Why is that so ready?

What are you doing? They got a second.

They got that video up fast.

I'm glad that we I can just take attention away from my gut and my body.

You loved how he talked then. You loved so much how he talked then. Look at how you're looking at him. Look at how you're looking at him. That man could take those shorts right off you and you wouldn't even notice.

Those are damn impressive shorts, I'll tell you.

The look of love.

That's the look.

That's two of. Now you're so out.

You and your dad, you're descended from homerism. Look at how you're looking at him. Now you're out on him even speaking, and Billy wants to give him lie serum.

Look how close he is to having his arm around you, too. He had his thumb right there.

He's touching my shoulder?

I think you're leaning in a little bit there.

Wow. Right after the camera went off, he said, Let me help you with that string there. What? Nothing.

No, he's right.

Thank you, Tony. Tony remembers.

Tony will agree with anyone. What?

Would you believe that Greg Cody came in here wanting to talk to any Hamlin I don't think I'd see the day. It took till he was 71 years old where Greg Cody runs in here with the desire to talk about racing that I haven't seen since him and Gary Long were trudging to seven miles away from the homestead speed That's right. What? How? Mike Ryan has been trying to get everyone here to talk Denny Hamlin for about six months, and everyone ignores him. They wait for him to stop talking. They wait for the breakfast on his breath to end up wafting away.

How much I'm a closet NASCAR fan. I'm by no means an expert, but I love their playoff format. I think going from 16 drivers to 12, I think it's a great system that's working. Granted, they tweak it every single year, it seems like. But Denny Hamlin, you don't have to be a NASCAR gearhead to know that, and Mike will correct me if I'm wrong, he's basically seen as the greatest, most accomplished driver who's never won the Cup Series. And now he's close. He's made the Championship four. He's guaranteed of his best shot, I think, to win it all. And that's a good story. That's a human interest story. I've never met Denny Hamlin. I don't know whether he's a nice guy worth rooting for or not, but I think it's a fun story to follow.

He relishes being the villain. He also has an in-season podcast that is often revelatory. What's it called? He is presently suing Nascar. He owns another team. Week after week, something dramatic happens. He either wins a race or is directly involved in something seismic, whether it be knocking out his boss's grandson for a race, knocking out a driver for a team that he owns, or allowing Joey Logano to creep back into the final eight when he himself admitted, I wish I didn't pass Ross there. Had I known that meant Joey made the playoffs, I wouldn't have let the defending champion in the final eight. It is a great underreported story. You understand why it's underreported? Because it's NASCAR and it's having this payoff chase in the middle of the football season. But yeah, he is considered the Buffalo Bill's. I think that was his 60th Cup race win. He is by far the greatest driver to never win a Cup series, and he is right there in the final four in a sport that in a playoff format that allows for some randomness. It is good to see one of the more consistent drivers actually get to the final four.

You can't talk anymore. You have to stop talking once the gearhead falls off. You have to immediately stop talking. You violated the rules there. I'm sorry to do this to you. I don't know how rare it is. Shouldn't his team, forgive my ignorance here, shouldn't his alert him that Logano is in that position if that's something their driver wants?

They should have probably. Yeah, it's not at the front of mind when he's there. The spotters do a good job of that, but he was already fixed into the final eight. Yeah, there's just an oversight, and Logano just turned to the dark arts again to get in the final eight.

Can I just marvel at Greg for a moment? Sure. Coming in here, talking NASCAR, talking dolphins. We talked about Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods' back surgery. It's really incredible what Greg is going through, because I don't know if you guys notice, Greg has been hobbling around a little bit today. I was asking around, and I heard that he has an ACL injury. He has to see some specialists might need surgery not to put his business out there. He's not saying anything to anyone about it. He's not telling people, Hey, I'm not going to be able to do this or that because of my leg. He's not making excuses. He's just powering straight through. I think he is an inspiration today, and we haven't given him his just do yet.

Thank you, Billy. I don't like the spotlight on me. I don't like it when it's all about me. The fact that I have a torn medial meniscus and a sprained ACL and might need knee surgery, I don't mention that.

It sounds if it's torn and sprained that you do need knee surgery.

It could be. I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow who's going to refer me to an orthopedic surgeon, so I should know very soon.

Here's the thing about it. When I was asking him about it, I was like, Oh, my gosh, Greg, this is devastating news. How did this happen? He's like, I don't even know. Because he's so focused on his work and all of his other responsibilities and everything else that's going on, he's just powering right through. He doesn't even know when it happened, believe it or not.

It is weird because I had a discomfort in my right knee for a lot of weeks. But I assume it's related to age or arthritis. It wasn't pain. It was just mild discomfort. Discomfort.

Because the strong ones don't feel the pain. Exactly. Not today, you said. Yeah.

Is this going to take you out of bowling for a while?

Yes, for sure. Wow. Then all of a sudden, it went from mild discomfort to real pain. So I immediately had an MRI, and That's what it showed.

How much money would you give to not have that pain? How many trophies would you give to not have it? How many green-FPI-Championships? How many green-Eyeshade Awards would you give back in order to not have that pain?

Or a FFPI-Champ.

Ffpi is a good one.

I'm an eight-time PFPI champion. Dad's Dynamics Cup.

But I think only three in the modern era? I would not get five. I think five of those were before the '60s, before 1970.

I would not get back any of them. I would go through the pain.

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