Transcript of Will Ferrell on Down Bad Buddy the Elf, Iconic SNL Audition & Ron Burgundy's Dating Advice | Ep 122

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That we do. We've got a great guest before the playoffs get started. Why don't we take a look right here? Our guest today from the University of Southern California, winner of six Primetime Emmy Awards, two SPs, an MTV Award, movie Award, Best Kiss winner, and the winner of the Mark Twain Prize for Comedy. You can see him in his critically acclaimed documentary, Will & Harper on Netflix, as well as his up-and-coming Comedy with Reese Witherspoon. You're cordially invited, releasing January 30th. 92% is It's Buddy the Elf, Mugatu, Ashley Schafer, Ricky Bobby, Ron Burgundy, Jazz Michael-Michiels, 92% of his strength to take himself. Will Phil is here. Oh my God!

So epic.

Best intro. Best intro ever. Best intro ever.

I apologize if I just blew your ears out, Will. No, no.

That was soothing. I'm going to play that on a loop to fall asleep to. It's going to be like a sleep machine for me.

If you can't tell, we are jazz to have you. But I got to be on the on. Right away, we saw this post on Twitter from the LA Kings, Buddy the Elf is officially in Hockeywood. Can we pull this up, Brandon?

This is so good. What is going...

This is not the Buddy Elf I remember This is just over the weekend. Buddy Elf has been through some shit.

What's- Buddy the Elf got laid off, I think. No.

From the North Pole.

Santa not- Taking a swig. He's having a pool from his beer, smoking a cig. Just having him time.

That was just... I get these weird ideas every now and then.

They're golden, man.

I I told my wife, because we're seasoned tickets holders of the LA Kings, we have the seats right on the glass, which were amazing. I said, Gosh, over the break, you know what? It'd be funny if I just got a Buddy the Elf costume, I didn't shave for a week. I'm just sitting there with a candy cigarette. It's just a candy cigarette. I'm just going to sit there for a period and see how people react. That was it. So The action was insane. They were like, What is he doing? Is he promoting something? But occasionally, I just like to do weird things like that just to stir it up.

Dude, it's the best. It's the best. Have you always been a hockey fan? I know you've been following the Kings for a while now, but...

Yeah, I remember I grew up in Southern California, and there was a kid who moved into my neighborhood from Connecticut who played hockey, and we would play street hockey. We would This is sad. One-on-one street hockey? Does that even exist?

Dude, are you kidding me? This is all me and Jason used to do.

Oh, okay.

All growing up. This is legit. Of course. This is legit.

We'd have ice. It was just with the little ball, and it's running around a parking lot. Then I followed the Kings way back, way back when they had the triple Crown line of Marcel Dion, Dave Taylor, Charlie Simmer. Anyway.

You've been in it for a while. Hell, yeah.

I've been watching. Then, of course, they won a couple of cups, and that helped build the audience. Now, they draw really... Oh, look at that.

I got a little Wayne great ski. Jason got me this for Christmas.

But did you guys play hockey as well with everything else you did?Oh.

Yeah.we did. That was probably the first one that we both fell in love with, at least for me, for sure.

Yeah. No, same. It's a wonderful sport. It's fun. We both started it. Travis finished in high school playing basketball. I played hockey in high school. We used to play street hockey with that same ball you're talking about. Yeah. One of the elementary schools, Rocksport Elementary, had cut down the basketball hoops. You would think this would be a safety issue, but they left the post.

They just cut the hoops down.

If you hit the post, it was a goal. We played pick up hockey all the time, just trying to hit the post. And that's how we played. Yeah.

Yeah. It's an amazing sport. And I'm not going to lie to you, there's some beautiful men out there who play hockey. Gorgeous.

Gorgeous. As long as they have their teeth in. Yeah, as long as they have their teeth in. Don't take the dentures out.

But yeah, that was my latest public stunt.

While we're on the public stunts, we got to pull up the shack at the Staples. We got to pull that one up. This is an all-time one.

That was classic.

Oh, my gosh. Look at that mustache.

Yeah, that was another one. I had friends who gave me a Staples security guard outfit, and I stuck it into the building and then just pretended to be one of the security guys.

So wait, that was not... Wait, the Staples was not a part of that one either?

They had no idea. I was afraid. I stuck it in because I was afraid they would stop me and go, Where did you get that uniform? That's Contra Man. Come with us.

This is the Vetler, dude. That's amazing.

I just stood on the... Yeah. It turns out the other security guys, they were like, Dude, I love it. Just don't stand on the court. You're good with us. You're good with us. Then I looked down and Shaq happens to be at the game. Unbeknown... I just pick a random game, and I looked down and there's Shaq in the corner. He's rolling. He's laughing. I stand up a couple of times in between the breaks, and then I'm like, What else do I do? What do I do with this? I don't know. Then someone taps me on the shoulder and says, During the next break, Shaq's ready to leave the game. Do you want to throw him out? You want to throw him out of the game? He gave me the idea. He goes, Yeah, just come over. And then I escorted him out.

That is brilliant.

The diesel.

And then we had the biggest laugh. That is so good. I was like, Shaq, do you know how extraordinary that is that you're allowing me to throw you out of an NBA basketball game? He was like, Are you kidding me? It was so funny. I found out from one of the heads of the security that he goes, Hey, I have to tell you, everyone appreciated the shout out. All the security people appreciate the shout out. I was like, Oh.

That's what I was waiting for. Actually, I was making fun of you guys.

It was a shout out. It was a shout out for sure.

That is so fucking gold, man. You've done a lot of these. I got to know, I've been just so curious about this. When did you become a DJ? The video of you DJing at the frat party might be one of my... You've now inspired me to want to become a DJ and do exactly what. You made that shit look so fucking fun?

I don't know if you want to... I don't know if you want a real peek behind the curtain or not, but I don't know how to DJ. I was just all set up by my son, and he was like, Dad, can you come? It's parents' weekend. Can you come by the fraternity house? And I'll just set it up, and you just have to twist knobs and I like to push buttons. So I just acted the part, but I do not... No, look at it. That's insane. I still forget that people have cameras attached to their phones. I don't know if you guys ever feel that way, but I still sometimes...

That's so good. The fact that you could just turn that switch off, though, man, not care about it, that's the best part. I sent that to everybody that I knew.

I showed up for 15 minutes, and then I went to the football game. I didn't think twice about it. Then Monday, it blows up, and I'm thinking, What? Wait. Oh, right. All these kids were filming it. Anyway.

So good.

It's It was fun to just... I just love doing those out-of-the-box things just to mingle with people.

Well, we love it when you do it, too, Big Dog. Yeah, for sure.

Yeah. Thank you.

Let's get it to your athletic career. Jason, why don't you hit him with it?

You were an athlete growing up, kicker in high school.

Oh, yes.

You were a kicker in high school. Did you ever try to play any other position, or were you always like, I'm going for the kicker?

Well, let's just say, freshman year at University High School in Irvine, California, I dominated. Okay? Yeah, baby. Starting free safety and wide receiver. Let's go.

Two-way player. Two-way player.

That's a football guy right here.

Co-mvp of the football team.

Oh, my gosh.

Basketball, freshman player of the year, freshman basketball. Then I played baseball. It was downhill, downhill from there. I was six, one and a half as a freshman.So.

You had some height advantage.

Then I think by the time I graduated, I was 6'3, so I only grew an inch and a half more over the next couple of years. But yeah, I'd never played football, and I played a lot of soccer. And I also was doing the kicking. And then I got called up to... I made varsity as a sophomore as a kicker. They wanted me to play safety, too, but I was like, you guys, I weigh I pay 150 and I'm not.

Oh, my gosh.

Something about... I never come... Let's just say no one was looking at me for proper tackling for him. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, just go somewhere and go and shit.

Something about getting your head in there. I'd end up like, my approach looked really good, and then I'd roll to the side and face mask you.

I played defense one fucking time, and it was safety. I saw a guy running at me looking like freaking Eddie George, and I made a business decision. That's what I did. I made a business decision to not go in with the head, the hands, the proper technique. I went slide tackle.

I would set up the right way. You're like, Oh, he's going to... Farrell is going to jack someone. Then I would go, No, that's okay. I was like, You know what? I'll just kick. I'll just kick I was really hoping actually to be a college kicker. We were a horrible football program. I think we were one, eight, one my senior year.

I could relate.

But I was getting those little form letters from University of Oregon, New Mexico State.

New Mexico State. What was your longest field goal? Do you remember?

45. 45 in a game.

In high school, that's big time.

50 in practice. Okay. You can boot it. Then I tried walking on at USC. My freshman year at USC, I saw in the athletic department that they were having-Tryouts? Walk-on tryouts, right? Yeah. But it was in the fall, so obviously, the team is already set. So I'm like, Why not? I showed up and we weren't allowed to kick on the field that actually had the field goals. It was just a big open... I was really accurate, but I wouldn't say I could boom it. So I think we did five kickoffs, and then the guy just blew the whistle. He was like, Okay, bring it in.

We're good.

He was like, Okay, huddle up. I'm the special team's coach. We're pretty good with our kicking situation right now, but if any of you guys were to play scout team, running back or scout, and I was like, No, I've heard about scout team.

Oh, no. Yeah, no, not in college. In college, that's where I play. That's when it's no fun.

That was the extent of my college athletic career.

It sounds like you wanted to be an announcement while in college.

Yeah, I went to... Usa had this sports information program. It's funny. I always wanted to get into comedy, but I grew up in the entertainment industry. My dad's a musician.

Okay.

And had played at... In the best of places and in the worst of places. He's a piano player and super talented. And I just saw how unstable the entertainment business is. Sure. He would have a job at a nightclub for six months to a year. And then they'd be like, well, that's over. I'm like, What happened? It was like, nothing. They just said, we're done. And you have to go back out and search and do all this stuff. And so I thought, well, I'm never going to do that. I want a real job. I didn't know what that meant, even though I loved comedy. I loved making my friends laugh. I loved watching comedy. I loved everything about it. But I also love sports, and I played sports all throughout high school. And SC had this program that was like sports journalism. So I thought, oh, that's a blending of both. And SportsCenter had probably just started Let's see, I graduated in '90, so that was the beginning of ESPN.

Starting to boom, yeah.

I want to be one of those guys. Yeah. And so I graduated and then was trying to get a job with local cable stations. You have to build a tape and send it out to these small markets to get hired as the sportscaster in Umeuma, Arizona. Those tapes got to be gold.

They have to be-I don't know where. They have to be gold, dude.

I should have held on to them. But at the same time, I thought, You know what? This itch is not going away. I better scratch it about the comedy thing. At the same time, I started doing classes at this improv theater in Los Angeles called the Groundlings, where I had seen tons of people had gone on to sitcoms, to Saturday Night Live, to film and television, performers, writers, directors, everything. I thought, Oh, they had a school I could take all these classes at. I was doing both at the same time. I found my... As you guys probably know, you got to find your community, you got to find your support group. That place in LA, the Groundland Cedar, was where I felt safe enough to go for it. I was there for three years. Then that Spring of '95 was when SNL was doing a nationwide search for a brand new cast because they knew they were going to let go. It was going to be the last year for Farley and Sandler and Dana Carvie and that whole group.

Man.

So, yeah, happened to be at the right place at the right time when they came and watched one of our shows and went through the audition process.

The audition process. We've all seen the audition video. It is the most brilliant- The cat toy on the ground. How does that even... How do you know that that's going to be the one to get you the job? What the fuck?

Well, here's the thing, Travis- It doesn't make any sense in my mind. You've hosted the show, right? You've stood on that spot where you deliver the monolog. Yeah. And your heart is pounding in your chest, right? Yes. But you're in front of a full audience that's supportive and there, and they want to see you have fun. I'm on the ground in that studio playing around like a cat. No one. No one's in. Michael purposely had no one in the studio to create the tension of late night. He wanted to create the pressure of what it's like to be on Saturday, like live TV. So I'm in a void rolling around going, Oh, my God, I'm going back to LA. This is not... Because there's no one in the studio. There's just a camera operator and a sound guy.

Oh my gosh. So good. This is one of my favorite It was almost like a prisoner torture technique.

I just had to fight through it.

Were there any other audition bits that you had, or were you juggling a few at the time?

They basically had to do an audition that was anywhere from five to eight minutes long of any of the characters of your choice.

Oh, nice. Okay.

That was one of the... I did another sketch. I did Harry Carey doing a play reading. So I did my Harry Carey impersonation. And I did this sketch that I think really got me the job, which was this dad at a barbecue yelling at his kids to get off the shed. That piece I auditioned with later became the sketch that I did in my very first show as a cast member.

That's cool. They brought that one to life. Nice. Yeah.

That's awesome, man. But it was awful. I was like, I had no idea if I did well or not, and you just left going, Oh, well, I guess they'll call me.

I'll tell you what, Lauren, he could be a stone cold dude. He can give you absolutely nothing. And I'm sure that that left you confused as I'll get out, man.

Yeah, he can... It's funny. He's like, he can walk right by you or he can...

So good.

Or you can pump you up. But yeah, sometimes you don't know where you stand with that guy.

Oh, man. The SNL years were definitely the beginning of our fandom for you, Biggai. Who do Who do you remember as some of your favorite characters on SNL? The ones that you really got excited to go out there and perform?

I never imagined that I would get to play the President because I wasn't known for doing political impressions or anything like that. To get to do Bush for that long... You know you're going to be a go-to guy every week.

That was pretty heady.

That was really fun. Nice. I loved... I think about doing the cheerleaders with Sherry O'Terry, sketches I got to do with Molly Shannon, on a gas dire. We used to do this Bobby and Marty sketch where we were middle school music teachers who would perform and the kids would hate them. The Robert Goulet sketches were really fun. Neil Diamond.

Neil Diamond.

And Harry Carey. I got to do Harry Carey to an audience that maybe didn't know. It was fun because people who knew Harry Carey from the Cubs as an announcement, obviously knew who he was, but then other people would go, I love that mad scientist character you do with the crazy white hair. And I was like, Well, no, he's a real person. They're like, Okay, well, whatever. It doesn't matter. I think it's so funny. I had a great seven years on the show, and I just I'm so lucky to look back. And there was probably... I had fun every single week doing that show.

Man, yeah. Seven years is a crazy run, man. Obviously, seven years on the show as a cast member, but you're a member of the SNL Five Timers Club as well. What's the difference between hosting it and being a cast member? Or what's the biggest difference?

Hosting, yeah. I think, honestly, I preferred being a cast member because when you host, you all of a sudden... It was much easier to be a cast member and have your sketch get cut and be, shake your fist, like, ah. But when you're on the other side and you're having a hand in like, Oh, I don't want to choose between. That's tough. You've been in that room and you probably had some choices where you had two or three funny things that could only go in the one slot because there is a lot of thinking that goes into that show. It's hard.

Everybody was awesome on the cast. You're sitting there, you're like, I don't want to take her off stage. I don't want to take him off stage. I don't want to take that bit. That bitch, they're killing it in that bit. And then you're thinking, Oh, but I really love doing the one thing.

And so I was like, Oh, I hated determining the fates of who was going to be in the show and who was not. Also, too, you realize the times I've come back to host, that thing is like a track meet. You forget what-It is a machine.

It is a well-oiled machine.

Physical shape you're in, comedy shape you're in. And I all of a sudden felt like I was in an NBA basketball game, and the ball just kept hitting me in the face. The last time I came to host, I remember, in fact, I remember sitting with Lauren at the after-party, and I was like, God, man, Lauren, I can't believe I used to do the show, not even think twice about doing this show every week. And he was like, I thought he was going to give me the attaboy. You were No, you were great. You were wonderful. He was like, No, it's a young man's game. He didn't give me anything. I'm like, Was I that bad? He was like, No, no, no. But no, it's a young man's game. I'm like, Jeez, all right.

It all rolls fast, though, man.

It happens so fast. Man, I was the luckiest guy in the world to even get a chance to do it knowing how big of a fan I was of it and how big of an opportunity it is.

Jason, you're next.

Jason, he's been on the list.

I'm trying my own thing. Listen, I was up there able to watch Travis host, and we've talked about it before, but it's just so impressive the amount of people that are involved in that thing and how it all happens. And I couldn't imagine the hosting itself, like in watching, because I think I got there maybe Thursday, Travis. So I got to watch a little bit of that process of learning it every day, and I was just blown away, absolutely blown away.

It's a real piece of living history in terms of television and in terms of American comedy, because when you're sitting at home and you just DVR it or turn it on at 11:30, you have no idea during those commercial breaks that there's 100 people running around moving those sets. Absolutely. It is such a I mean, I hope they never cancel that show because I don't think they'll ever do that type of show ever again. No. It's an art form the way they put on that show. And it's surprisingly... It is surprisingly surprisingly funny with how many things that can go wrong and the fact that they write it in a week.

It's crazy.

It's hit or miss for sure, but it lands on its feet more often than not. It's pretty impressive.

The whole week, you're seeing the construction workers putting together sets, and your mind is just blown away, and you're just like, What? Then some sets get canceled because they just don't fit in the time frame. You're just like, what? How do you do this week in, week out? It just blows my mind.

You really have to have-I'm not going to be a part of it. You have to have thick skin as a cast member because I remember when I was... My first year on the show, Kevin Neelen, who I was a big fan of, Kevin Neelen came back to see a show and say hi to us. It was towards the end of my first year on the show, and he was like, You're really funny. You're great job. I was like, Thanks, And he was like, Let me give you some advice. You don't have to score every week. Just keep that in mind. It's like, if you could look back on a season and count on... If you've done 10 funny things, then you've had a good year. It took the pressure off of having to have a great show every week. It's like hitting 300 in baseball. If you hit 300, you're going to be in the Hall of Fame. If you could hit Well, 30% might be a little low.

If you could be funny 50% of the time, you would have a great year. That's a good batting average.

I took that to heart, but Let me ask you this because I'm doing this late night thing on ESPN.

I just started it, and we're trying to incorporate some scripted bits and some funny... I guess, what do you think is the biggest thing to performing a sketch or comedy live that you would tell anybody who's just starting out into that world? Because, quite frankly, I've never done anything like this where there's a live audience and you're trying to do this while it's being recorded.

Yeah.

Forgive me if this is a loaded question, but I'm really remissed if I didn't ask you pointedly if there's anything that you can fast track my ability to be funny on.

No, you're screwed, man.

Sounds like you got to figure it out.

Yeah.

No. You know, The thing that I always lived by is because I was like, look, I'm going to meet, I'm going to watch people perform who I think I'm funnier than. I'm also going to watch people who are way funnier than me. And I'm going to have to be okay with that. But the one thing no one will ever beat me at is how hard I commit to something.

Sure.

You've got to commit sketch-wise to whatever the premise is and just go for it. If you lock in that way, all the apprehension will just melt away. Then the audience will be on your side, too, because they'll just be like...

He's going for it.

Exactly. Hopefully, it's a funny premise to begin with, but even if it's not, they'll just be like, God, Jason is going for it.

I'm on his side.

That's all you need to worry about. That's brilliant. And to not... Because I've seen people, you can't have one foot in and one foot out because then the audience doesn't believe your intention. Absolutely. That's just the main thing.

Dude, you send it better than anybody, man.

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Just so you know, we asked Bill Murray this, and he said it was Ray Charles because he was amazed at how well he remembered all of his linesOh, my God. And we didn't have to use any cue cards. Yeah.

We had a similar... I remember Jackie Chan posted with us. What?

He didn't read English, so we couldn't use the cue card.

So we had to do the whole thing. There we go. Jackie Chan.

And he was on fire.

But I think there are varying degrees. Like I remember one of our best hosts was Derek Jeter. He just committed to everything, regardless of how stupid we put him. And also, that's how I got to know. That's how I met Shaq for the first time. He came on and did... I think it was... Kelsey Grammer was the host, but they said, Hey, Shaq's in town. He wants to do some sketches. He destroyed. He was so funny and natural to the point where one of his sketches got cut because he had a funnier show than the host.

You had to reel it back.

You had to reel it back because we wrote this sketch where all the cast members were picking on me and making me cry and Shaq came up, he's like, What's going on?

I'm like, Shaq, everyone's making fun of me. He's like, Come with me, Will. We walked to Homebase there, and he picked me up in his arms, and we proceeded to sing a duet called No One's going to hurt my little man. He was Jack cradling me. We did this whole... But that got cut, and it destroyed.

Oh, my gosh.

That's amazing. But then, I swear, it was a lot of times, it was actors like Steve Buscemi.

Oh, you're nice.

Insanely good. I remember a lot of times dramatic actors who were so excited to-You didn't always see him in the comedy world. Exactly. That thing of They would just commit to the premise. They weren't even trying to be funny, and they subsequently got twice as many laughs.

I love it. That's amazing. You just referenced Billy Bob Thornton and made me think of that bad elf at the top of the show. Maybe there's a Bad Elf, Bad Santa remake coming down the line. Maybe, yeah. A lot of people will be distraught by that combination.

But maybe that's why we need to do it.

Yeah, exactly.

By the way, speaking of football, I got to bring something up.

All right.

I happened to be watching during the holiday break, Travis, you guys, the Pittsburgh game.

Yeah.

Sealed the win. When you scored Did you just have one countdown?

Or did you have two? Yeah, I just had one. I just had the one.

You just had the one. You went to go dunk the football, you missed the dunk.

I'm just going to tell you. I did not dunk. I did not dunk. You missed it. You hit the rim.

I remember thinking, Oh, I want to bring that out. I know I'm going to be talking to you guys. I'm like, God, Travis, he doesn't have the same hops. He missed the dunk.

I don't have the ups anymore. I used to. The football just hit the bar and just spilled over.

But you still tried to celebrate. I just dunked it. I was like, No, no, no. I gave him my best Tony Gonzales.

He was known for dunking. That's right. I had just eclipsed his countdown record in the piece.

Yeah, maybe finger roll next time.

I should have. What I did was, you remember when you first started trying to dunk and you would just go up and smack the backboard? That's what I was doing right there. It wasn't a full dunk. Maybe if I get it earlier in the game, I might be able to... The explosive.

I have been thinking about that since that moment. I've literally been stewing on that.

Nice. Well, I've been thinking people might have forgot about it, so perfect.

Before we move on, I got to ask this, have you ever dunked Will?

Can you How did you dunk? I remember having a breakaway, and I was like, I'm going to dunk this. The ball slipped out of my hand. I got right here. I got like rim, and then the ball just fired off the backboard. Coach was like, What was that? I was like, You told me, try to dunk it. If I have a break. He's like, Okay. I could dunk a tennis ball, but now I never... You're not a basketball Travis has seen me, no joke, over an hour in a gym.

At least.

Just trying to dunk.

Just trying. Just trying to dunk. Repeatedly thinking I'm getting closer and repeatedly failing.

If I just get the technique right, I can do it.

I'm there. I'm right there.

It's going to happen. You're 310 pounds. You're not going to dunk the ball. Gravity is working against you.

Exactly.

All right, let's get to this segment. We're going to try this out. This is the Will Farrell character football draft. All right? Okay. We're going to try an attempt to draft a football team with your characters. We're going to have you do this. We got round one, we're going to do quarterback. So if we're picking a Will Farrell character, what character would be the quarterback of this football team?

I think the quarterback, not that he would necessarily be good, but he'd be very commanding, It would be Ron Burgundy.

Yes. You know Ron, he's commanding.

He's commanding. He'd get the plays wrong.

He'd call the wrong cadences.

Yeah, he'd mess up constantly, but he blamed someone else.

It's been a fun ride.

We got Double Way Right, Dorothy Mantouth on two, Dorothy Mantouth on two.

Exactly. Baxter left.

So good.

Go Right, swordfish. Ron, that's not a play. Yes, it is. Let's run it.

It is now.

It is now.

Second round, we're going running back. Who you got for running back?

Running Back? Running Back with Prah, I'm going to say Frank, the tank from old school.

The tank, dude. Just to ground a pound tank. He's breaking some tackles.

Because he's got that name, the tank. He's going to break some tack. He's also going to be inebriated enough to where he won't feel any pain.

That was my next Is he inebriated in this?

Yeah, he's definitely...

He's definitely...

He's drinking all night if you give him some beer.

Well, yeah, he may try to take a couple of plays fully naked. Yeah. That nobody wants to tackle him.

Right. Man, he just... Great strategy, Frank.

He's untouched into the end zone.

So good.

All right, round three. Wide receiver.

Maybe because he's... I think he's, I would say, very flexible and live, the word live. I'd say buddy the Elf. Buddy the Elf.

Nice.

I love it. I could have swore you were going to go Chaz Michael-Michiels, like jumping up. Oh, okay.

Leaping over the middle beautifully.

Very graceful.

Yeah, Chaz Michael. Very graceful. That's a I like Buddy the Elf.

That's a better call.

That's a better call.

Buddy the Elf, just the happiest disposition ever. Why does he eat a lot of candy, too? Yeah, they do.

Skittles.

Yeah, I'm telling you.

Round 4, who's a coach?

Coach would... Because I think he probably did. I'd say Jackie Moon from SemiPro. Oh, yeah. He was a coach. Because he was a player coach.

Yeah, that's a good one.

He had to run it all. It's perfect. And he knows how to manage people.

Owner. Where are we thinking? Round five, owner. Who's the owner of this football team?

I don't know if he's the right owner, but I just haven't... I forgot to throw him in, but let's just say Ricky Bobby is the owner. Dude, to the electrical- You already know.

He's running the show, dude.

That'd be the best... The best Heil Mary, our baby who art in heaven.

Yes. He He would lead the team in the Baby Jesus prayer before every game, whether they wanted to or not.

Sweet, Baby Jesus.

Yeah. No, Ricky Bobby, he'd be a good owner. He's got a little Jerry Jones in him, probably.

I can see that. For sure. He's my pals. They're definitely friends.

How about... Have you seen the clip of Jerry Jones with the Chops? He's acting now. He's in a TV show.

No.

Yeah. Jerry What is this, really? I was actually pretty surprised. I was like, Man, he's speaking better than he has in the interviews he gets.

Wait, what show is he in?

This is a good question. I don't know. I only came across it. Landman with Billy Bob Jordan.

Oh, Landman.

Yeah, so you definitely-One of those Paramount Plus shows. You know it.

I actually watch some soccer on Paramount Plus.

The old football, huh? You got a premier team that you You're not in the Rue for her?

I don't really, but I'm a small part of the ownership group of Leeds United, which is the second division. Oh, yeah. Nice. Very cool. I've been out to one of their matches, which was awesome. I'll keep tabs on them.

I see you at a lot of sporting events. Is that your hobby? You love to get some live-action sports? Is it pathetic? No. You're a little bit pathetic, right? I'm living through you when I see you I'm like, Dude, I want to do what Will's doing.

I've got way too many tickets.

Let alone the baseball bit you did where you played at all the teams and everything.

Yeah. No, we have because we're part of the LAFC soccer team out here in LA, which is MLS. We're part of that ownership group, too. So we go to those games. Nice. I have tickets to the Lakers every now and then, the Kings, USA football. And somehow in the year that they won the World Series, I went to zero Dodger games.

No way.

I went to one. I went to one. No way. I know. We go to a lot of sports. But I mean, sports is a huge part of my life. It was the way, and I know you guys can relate to this, it was the way I was able to make friends. It was the way I loved playing team sports.

Yeah. I mean, maybe it's something where athletes just want to do and comedians just wanted to go to sports because I went to a UCB out in LA. I went to Operate Citizens Brigade. It was so much fun. It is amazing watching people in improv just take something from nothing and make something funny, instantaneous It is so impressive.

They're an incredible group. Ucb is one of the best.

Right on.

We have an idea here for this next bit. Trav, do you want to explain it?

Yeah, we got relationship advice voicemails. Something we do on this show is answer voicemails mails from our fans, and we've asked them to call in, ask for relationship advice, because who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads? Would you like to help us on these? Sure. You want a job in? Let's do it, man. Here's the thing. You could answer some of these questions as one of your characters, maybe?

Okay. Nice.

Yes. I'm so excited. Brandon.

Brandon. Brandon.

Hey, Travis. Hey, Jason. Big Chief fan. Three peak coming. Just wanted to know your advice for a first date when you should know those red flags and when to look for the green flags. Go, Chief.

Red flags, green flags.

When to look for the red flags, when to look for the green flags?

Let's see. Ricky Bobby would say, Look, I don't know anything about red flag or green flag. You just got to get yourself into a position to look for the checkered flag. Because there's only one thing you need to worry about. If you're not first, you're last.

Yeah, baby.

I would just tell that young lady to look for the checker flag.

You got to find your way to the finish line, guys.

I don't know if that's good advice or bad. It sounds like bad advice. I think it's metaphorically, it makes sense.

You got to find your way to the finish line. I loved it, man. That shit was fucking gold.

That was so good.

That could have gone any better. All right, here we go. Next one. What we got?

All right, Jason and Travis. What do I do whenever I bought this girl tickets to a concert for Christmas? She'd done me the before. Now her best friend wants to go with me. That is the term. Do I take her or no?

Do you take the best friend after the tickets you bought for your girlfriend? She dumped you.

Wait, I want to make sure I understand. Do you take the best friend of the girl after?

Yes. So the girlfriend dumped him, and now the best friend wants to go with.

Well, Ron Burgundy would say, Of course you take the best friend because you teach that young lady a lesson. You're not going to be some horse's ass. You've spent $1,200 going to, I don't know, whatever concert, whatever music you listen to nowadays. I don't know if it's Kajia Gugu or Duran Duran or whatever it is. But you send a signal to that young lady that you're not messing around.

I agree more, Ron.

You take photos of you and the best friend making out and send it back to the old girlfriend and say, That's how I do it.

That's how you roll right there, baby. That was fucking gold, man. It was so good. That's why you're the greatest of all time, dude.

Oh, my goodness.

Oh, man. Do we got one more in us? You want to do one more? That was fucking gold, dude. That was gold.

That was so good.

I think we're good to roll, man. Let's get this thing going.

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Okay, ready. Lightning round.

Lightning round, baby. That's right.

Feel free to tell us to fuck off. All right, here we go. Before you made it, what was your worst job?

Definitely a bank teller. I was a bank teller.

That's Donna Kelsi. That's our mom was. Yeah, her mom was.

She started off with the bank telling. Worked her way up to some higher up positions, but yeah, she started off as a teller.

Customers would actually complain as to how bad I was. I'd break out in flop sweat. Your mom can relate to it. When you're starting out, you're handling people's money. It was awful. That's too funny.

As long as your register wasn't short, you're good, man.

I was short my first two days out. I wasn't even pocketing the money. That's crazy.

Excuse me, manager, I'm trying to deposit money, and your teller is playing with a ball of yarn, and he won't respond to me.

What's wrong with this guy? In fact, I remember I was putting up flyers in the break room to try to get people to come to my stand-up comedy show. I was so I was so quiet as a bank teller because I was so nervous all the time. I had this manager go, I saw your flyer. You do stand-up comedy? I go, Yeah. She's like, I'd like to see that.

I just walked away. Damn it. You're a father of three. What is the secret to being a cool dad?

The secret to being a cool dad? I think constantly, lovingly make fun of them.

Nice. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Emiliation. That's great. It's the best.

Perfect. Why don't they make R-rated comedies anymore?

I think they do. Actually, I have one coming out.

Here we go.

At the end of this month. There we go. There we go. We're quarterly invited on Amazon. Perfect. Which is like an old-school, R-rated, fantastic movie. Reese Witherspoon and I, we have two competing weddings booked at a destination location, and we have to duke it out to see who's going to be the wedding that gets to take place. But yeah, it's an interesting time. I think people are making it. I don't know why they're not going to the to see them. I think we have so many options now that a lot of people would rather go, Oh, I'll just catch that at home.

Yeah. There's nothing like going to the theater, though, man.

I know. When you sit and watch a comedy with an audience, you're reminded as to how much more fun it is. I'm trying to get that back.

I'll happily see this new one in theaters for you, bud.

Even though it's not in theaters. It's in Amazon.

It's not in Amazon. You did just say it was in Amazon. I'm sorry.

We'll go rent a movie theater out, and we're going to play. I'm calling everyone in the neighborhood.

They're coming over.

You're cordially invited to watch Cordially Invited at the movie theater It's us.

Is there one idea for a movie that you haven't gotten to make yet?Oh, gosh.Because you want to steal it.

Yeah. You know what? I'm going to pass on that because I'm afraid you guys will steal it.

No, we wouldn't do something like that.

No, I don't trust you guys. I don't trust you. No, I don't know. I'm trying to think if there's anything. It's funny. Ideas usually pop into my head in the most random way. But no, I don't have an exciting answer to that. Sorry.

Let me ask you this, when do you know an idea is ready to be made a movie? Because I would imagine you think about stuff constantly. Yeah. How do you know when it's like, okay, I'm going to make this movie about an anchorman named Ron? Where does that even... At what point are you like, Yeah, this could become a full motion picture.

Yeah, I think you just get a sense of something that... If it's an idea that you can spit out in a sentence, then it's got a good chance. I remember when we were pitching Anchorman, which at the time we got rejected. I think we got rejected 20 different times from various studios and financials and everything like that.

That just blows my mind. That's fascinating.

No one could wrap their head around an ensemble comedy that took place in a newsroom They kept hearing the news part, and we're like, no, it's going to be... Austin powers wasn't about us, it wasn't about the spy game. It was about a really funny character. Our character is going to be funny. Then I remember thinking, gosh, this is so hard to get off the ground. We should maybe pick a topic that everyone's talking about. At that time, NASCAR was at its height. I was like, for instance, what if I'm just me as a NASCAR driver and we sold that in two seconds. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there's an exact formula for it, but it's just something that I think grabs the people who have to pay for it.

There you go. There we go. All right. What's your Welcome to Hollywood moment. We all have a Welcome to NFL moments that just... I don't know. It's usually a big hit or somebody that we're extremely fond of or we're big fans of growing up that we're finally going up against. What was your Welcome to Hollywood moment?

I mean, one of my Welcome to Hollywood moments was getting to be the first member of a brand new cast on Saturday Night Live. And I got to say the first line lines of our opening show. And I'm sitting there and they're counting down the show and I'm looking out.

That's crazy.

My folks are in the audience and friends and family. And I'm like, I can't believe I'm here. And I'm about to say whatever line, which a little trivia here, I mess up my line. The first time I speak on camera on the show, I flub it.

No way. Of course.

And Travis, you know how you do the full dress rehearsal? Then by the time you do the live show, you're like, piece of cake. I got it.

I got it, yeah.

I did the dress rehearsal. I was like, This is going to be great. But I'm sitting there in the chair and the enormity of the moment hits me. I start to get a little bit emotional thinking about, wow, this is the thing I've always dreamed about. Then it was like five seconds, and then I had to do my line. I was like,. I I was like, and Lauren came back. He's like, Are you okay? I'm like, I'm fine. I'm fine. I just said, I don't know what happened.

Did you have a stroke?

Yeah, exactly. It was incredibly uplifting and incredibly grounding all at the same time. It was like, Don't ever take anything for granted. I can't believe I'm here. There you go.

That's awesome.

That's awesome.

Hypothetically, you see two guys that look like us coming at you on the sidewalk. What movie do you think we're going to quote at you?

You guys are going to say, You're my boy, Blue. Yeah! Old school. You're going to go old school, I think. Or you might say, Milk is a bad choice. I don't know.

Dude. If it's a hot day, I'm definitely going, milk was a bad choice. I was in Wisconsin and I had a whole wheel of cheese. I'm like, Whole wheel of cheese? I'm not even upset.

Milk. Milk was a bad choice. By the way, I improvised that because I was literally trying to tell the director in that moment, Why did you give me a carton of milk as we're shooting in LA on a 98-degree day? I literally was like, Milk This is a bad choice because I'm having to drink hot milk in this scene?

That's the worst. The fucking worst. You were spot on with that one.

This isn't on this, but do you ever get tired of people quoting your movies? Are you like, Yeah, I it. It's got to happen just constantly.

I wouldn't say... Yeah, I mean, sometimes there are moments where... I'm getting this weird kick here. Sorry.

Got a nice Look at the light. Look at the light. Yeah, look at that light.

The chiton's coming in real nice. Wow, that's nice. I don't know how to fix this. I don't know how to fix this. Well, whatever.

Here we go. We're rolling with it. I'm going to sit like this. We're rolling.

Yeah, sometimes someone gets something and you're just like... You're like, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I said that. Most of the time, it's fantastic. But then there's about 20% of the time where I don't pick up the cue. Oh, wow. I mean, it's a lot of fucking classics that you've been in, so I get it.

Someone yelled at me, Why are you so sweaty?

And I go, Oh, because I was just on a bike ride.

I'm like, No.

From Step Brothers.

After the drum set, Why are you so sweating? You're supposed to say because I was watching cops. I'm like, Oh, right. Sorry.

And she got so pissed and walked away. That's fucking hilarious. So you've ruined it for me. I've ruined it. So I do ruin it for a lot of people because I don't pick up my cue. That's funny as shit. That's so good. What's your Comedy Mount Rushmore throughout your life?

Who's your top four? You're throwing on your Mount Rushmore.

I'm going to put Steve Martin.

Nice.

I'm probably going to I'm going to put Bill Murray up there. Legend.

I'm going to put Eddie Murphy. That's so good.

Let's just say the original cast of Saturday Night Live.

Nice. Yeah, throw them all in there.

That counts. Hell, yeah. Yeah. That's great. That's awesome, man. That's an awesome list. I love that list. Do you have an actor you've wanted to work with that you haven't yet?

Steven Segal. Shut up. No, no. Oh, my God. Go ahead, dude. That would be the funiest goddamn thing. I don't know why.

You talk about doing something totally unexpected. No, that would be... Yeah, exactly. I don't know why I just pictured you dressed up with the slick as Steven's the goal. I don't know why that's what popped in my head.

I don't even think we could track him down. I don't even know where he is on planet Earth these days.

Yeah, wherever he's at.

I mean, I'd love to do something weird with an actor like Daniel Day-Lewis.

Yeah. Just gets really enthralled and into it. Exactly. Try to get him to do like a... Like something weird. Yeah. That's fun. What about the best sporting event you've ever been to? Oh, my gosh. I'm going to say two. I'm going to say the women's World Cup final at the Rose Bowl for women's soccer. Nice. Where they beat China. They finally won the women's world. It's the famous Brandee Shestain taking the top off. Yeah, fuck, yeah. That was incredible. And then I'll say, even though my team lost the game, the national Championship game, again, at at Rose Bowl, USA, Texas.

2005? Yeah.

That was an amazing back and forth. It's a great game.

You just made- Whoever had the ball last was going to win that game, and their time just ran out. But you have no idea how Well, his microphone is muted, but our head producer, our intern Brandon, our head producer, is the biggest Longhorns fan you've ever met in your life.

Oh my God.

Okay. I'm glad Brandon- He is screaming like a child off camera right now.

He's going lay into me right now, for sure. It's the reason he went to Texas, I believe, is because they won that game. I sat in the same row with Matthew McConaher and his buddy, and they wanted to talk shit the whole... Every time Texas... Of course. Texas guys love to be like, Okay, here we go. Then the testing would score right away. I'd be like, What? What happened? What happened? What was that? It was so back and forth. But I have to say, at the end of that game, everyone just shook hands. It was one of the best ever.

We just watched one of the... Anyway, but I've been lucky. I've been to a bunch of fun stuff, but those two pop into my head.

That game, Vince Young's performance towards the end of it, especially, he was just- Crazy. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah, it was like somebody just caught fire and could not be stopped. And there is a classic photo of Vince Young scoring that last countdown.

Yeah. And one of the SC cheerleaders jumping up in the air thinking it was SC that had scored.

No. It's so bizarre.

Really? Yeah. Oh, I need to look at this.

I have not seen that. That's amazing. You got to know who's got the ball. No, she. She was not the sharpest tool in the show. Becky, I'll tell you, I've been to the Rose Bowl one time since he played UCLA out there. When I tell you it is one of the coolest atmospheres, I can only imagine that place packed to the T for that game and seeing highlight after highlight after highlight for the biggest game of the year, man, I can only imagine what that felt like, man.

Both those teams with guys who went on to the league on both sides of the ball.

It was an insane environment. So cool. Crazy. Well, shout out to my former teammate, Vince Young. Awesome game. And shout out to you, Will. Listen, before we end this, we always give our guests Do you have any questions for us?

Or do you just want to go about your day? That's fine, too.

I don't want to put you on the spot. Let's see, what time is it? You got the sun hunting you down over there. I know. I'm trying to help your producers out here by not getting blast about stuff. I do have a question for you guys. How much... How do you compare getting to do things like this? Obviously, you You're living out... You got to be pro-athletes, this thing you dreamed about your whole life. Now getting to this other side of stuff, is it as much fun?

Is it more fun? Is it a different fun? Yeah. I'll take a hack at this. Me and Jason, we started this thing because we just wanted to show our brotherhood and have fun catching up once a week. It was a magical year where we both went to the Super Bowl and got to talk about both of our seasons throughout it. In retrospect, after about three years, the coolest part is getting to interview guys like you and just getting to shoot the shit with you over the course of an hour and get to pick your brain on the profession that you're in and what got you there and things like that.

That's all been so fascinating me. It hit me like a blindside because I just got on here to have fun with my brother, and now I get to do cool shit like this. That's definitely the ups for me. That's awesome. I would say, like Travis said, being able to just talk to Trav once a week, we have a dedicated time. Before we did this, there'd be months, sometimes in the middle of a season, especially, where you fall by the wayside. That, combined with interviewing really successful interesting people or friends, is awesome. But I would say the other thing that's very similar, when you get ready to play a sport, you practice and you work and you prepare, and then the game day happens and you get to express yourself as a player. And that's something very unique as an entertainer as well, where you work at it and you try to think about, how can I do things or what can I do that'll be interesting or take a creative idea from scratch. And I don't know, bring it to life. And it all is just really rewarding when that happens. I think that's similar in terms of getting out there, you We worked all offseason.

We put in all these new plays. Let's go out there and see what it looks like.

And then you get blown out by 40 points. You're like, Fuck, we're out of it, boys. Back to the drawing board. I think there's a lot of parallels between team sport and getting to do a lot of things in entertainment, because the same thing can happen. I think that's why I love working on films. It's a team of people. It's crew of people. I love Saturday Night Live because of the ensemble, because it was like we all... If we all pull for each other, the whole show does well and we all do well. And same thing. You work hard, you're working on something. You film something for 50 days. It takes a year to come out, and you lay a big fat turd and you're like, Oh, the audience didn't think it was funny at all. Oh, well, We thought it was hilarious. There you go. Then you're like, Well, I'm still glad we went for it.

What are you going to do? I'm taking your advice, and I'm full send in everything I ever do in the entertainment world, man.Fuck, yeah.Full send. I appreciate that advice, man. Will, thank you so much, brother.

You're unbelievable.Thank you, guys.

Cannot wait to see everything you got coming up, and I appreciate the time, man. Thanks, you guys. All right. That was fun. All righty, that wraps up another episode of New Heights.Un Unbelievable.Thank you to our guest, Will Farrell. We'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Make sure you are subscribed on YouTube to the New Heights channel, and follow New Heights on the WNDYR app or wherever you get your podcast.

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