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You said, for years I've been thinking about this.

That's what you said.

For years I've been thinking, we've been talking about this. Yeah, you've been laying at night thinking, like, I need to get this into a show somehow.

Oh, gosh.

This is why you did the the college game day. You got. You're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking.

That's right.

Jason, do you think you can kick a field goal? Bingo.

You know what? I don't know if my hips got me in it. We might have to find this out.

Welcome back to new heights, ladies and gentlemen, a onery show produced by Wave sports and entertainment and brought to you by Peloton. Hey, I bought it. All right. Find your push, find your power. With Peloton, we are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey. Coming off the bye week, Cleveland Heights high school alum, Cincinnati Bearcat alum. The Bearcats got back on the winning track, getting after UCF this weekend, shout out to the Bearcats. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube, 1Drew+ or wherever you get your podcast. Follow the show on all social media at new heights show with 1s. And Jason, you're now going to tell the people what we got coming up.

Well, we got another incredible episode lined up for all you 92 percenters. We're going to talk about both our weekends out of the house. The Eagles big win against the Brownies. And we're going to be joined by a very special guest who's definitely going to destroy me for my take on getting rid of kickers.

Absolutely ridiculous.

But yeah, it's the one and only the yinzer himself, Pat McAfee.

Ha.

We got him. We've been waiting for this one for a long time.

Love Pat, man.

I mean, probably most legendary media person out there right now.

Dude. So good.

Just ridiculously talented.

I cannot wait to talk to him about this last one. This one in Eugene, Oregon over this past weekend. He got everybody to start cheering, singing along to shout and oh my gosh, was it amazing. I. I literally started singing along as I was watching the video. Got goosebumps. It was like, man, that had to be rocking. You make fun, man. It's so cool watching.

No matter what he does. You're having fun.

Exactly.

Before I get crushed by probably the most legendary kicker to play the game at this point, let's get a little bit of that new news. All righty. Are you smarter than a celebrity Premiere. That's right. Travis's brand new show, are you smarter than a celebrity? Debuts today, October 16th on Prime Video.

Oh, is today.

It's today. Well, tomorrow, but today I'm terrified.

Terrified what people are going to say it is. I had so much fun doing. Are you, Are you smarter?

Yeah, you were telling me about this. There's a lot of good.

So much fun, man.

So the thing I didn't.

I thought.

So the celebrities aren't the contestants, right?

No, right here, the contestants on the.

Show, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nicole Beyer, Chad O, Natasha Legro, Leroy. They're not the contestants. They're the ones that are assisting the contestants with the answers. Right. Like it's the old are you smarter than a fifth grader? Where they're the one, they're playing a lot. Have to decide whether they're going with that answer, whether they're doing their own answer In.

In some. There are a few twists to this game and I do a great job of describing it in the episodes. So you just gotta. Yeah, you turn that Thing on. You'll. You'll get caught up to all the rules and regulations that we got going on with the celebrities and how the celebrities can help you out.

Amazon did actually send us a couple clips from the show. Oh, yeah, there's one where you learn what a BBL is.

Oh, yeah, I don't know if I.

Know what a BBL is.

Butt lift. Bbl. Okay. Yeah.

So let's check out this clip. My man Fitzy.

If I lose my glutes, I'll just go get one of those. You know you're playing for $100,000, Kelsey? I do, I do, yes. If you win that money, what are you going to do with it?

You really want to know, Kelsey?

Of course I do. Who doesn't want to know?

Hey.

I'm going.

Oh, a bbl.

Kelsey. Okay, okay. I'm trying to drag a wagon. What? I didn't hear you say that one. Can you tell the audience what a BBL is? Bbl.

You know what a BBL is?

A bigger butt. Oh, a bigger butt. What? It's a bbl. Brazilian butt lift. Oh, the bbl.

I did not know that's what that was called.

Thank you. You're welcome.

Well, she gets me.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, there you go.

The old Brazilian butt lift. I know. I know where to go if I lose my glutes. Coach Reed starts seeing. Seeing these glutes getting a little saggy. I'll just go get a BBL and lift these things up.

Dude, I ain't go. All you gotta do is do some RDls. Just get a little bit of. Get some squats in, get them glutes. You see all the girls are doing it on the inside.

She said I'm trying to drag a wagon.

Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not a fan of the bbls. Not a fan of the bbls.

Listen, man, it looks okay.

It looks okay for like a couple of years maybe, but then that thing just starts sagging. It looks like you got a diaper on the backside of you. It's not a good look.

It doesn't happen like that all the time.

Yes, it does, bro. I'm not a fan of the bbl.

I'm trying to give everyone the benefit the doubt.

Just do some glute bridges. You can build the wagon. Naturally, you don't need the synthetics. Unless you got Kelsey jeans.

But then you got a big fucking, like, stiff ass back there. Yeah, you got a big hard ass.

But when you're not clenching it, it's still. It's still got some. Some juice. I don't know. I'm not a. Yeah, I'm not a fan of them.

Me neither.

Just doesn't have the right shape. It just looks bad when your hamstrings don't match. When the hamstrings don't match your ass, it doesn't look good. I'm just being like. It's not a. You can't just add to the ass.

And then your hams got to go in there.

We ass hammies.

That ain't right.

Small calf, small hamstring in a wagon.

We can't do this.

You got bad circulation where all your fat deposits are just accumulating in your ass. This seems like this is an unhealthy thing.

All right, well, there you go, kids. Outside of learning what a BBL was, it was a fun show. And I never, never in a million years thought I was ever going to ever be an actual host of a game show. I always thought it was going to be fun to, like, maybe go on one of the game shows.

Yeah.

And then somebody asked me, do you want to host it? I was like. I mean, I guess I used to, like, mimic all the game show hosts as a kid, like, just around. And I love. I love the game shows, for sure.

We used to watch the game show network all the time. Family Feuds. We used to hit all that stuff.

All the. We were a game show network.

I still do the families. I still like game shows.

Well, then you might like this one, Jason. I actually, I was asked how. How well my family would do on the show, and I. And I was like, man, you know what? I think you and Big Ed would be pretty solid.

Dad would be good. Dad knows a lot of useless knowledge. He's been spending a lot of time in front of the computer, not really going anywhere with them knees.

He remembers stories very well. I'm not. I. I'll. I'll blank on it and I'll confuse it with something else in a heartbeat.

If you let Big Ed be a celebrity and eat buffalo wings while he's playing, he might not miss a question. He might get every single one of them.

If you give Ed, he's got a deal with him. Chewing Hanes white tea and sweating some box you get some. Yeah, you can.

Slope Y equals mx plus B. What's the Churchill? That's what's. I don't even probably would have said.

That, but who knows?

Well, it sounds like my Wednesdays are going to be very full.

Yeah. Play along. Play along and let me know how. How good you do.

What time. What time does this premiere at?

I have no idea what time it streams. I'm pretty sure.

Well, I know it streams, but usually there's, like, when it's a debut, it doesn't have a time. Or is it just a day?

It's just the day. Yeah.

All right.

So I can watch it immediately so it doesn't interfere with the grotesquerie at night.

There you go.

All right.

There you go. If you're not just sick of seeing me on the tv.

Oh, dude, I can't wait.

Please tell. Tell me how well you do because I was actually. I was kind of, like, quizzing myself, going through the questions in the back, just making sure I would read them once just so that I. Because I'm a terrible reader. So I would make sure I would get all the pronunciations, like, corrected in the background. But, yeah, I would love to see how well you do.

Should we do it? We'll just get. Can we get the video from Prime? And then I'll just do it and answer them. Boom, boom. See how it happens? Do it live.

Yeah. Or just tell me.

I'll tell you.

Nice. Yeah. So make sure you guys check that thing out on Amazon, I believe. Yeah. Amazon Prime. All right, new OneSry plus exclusive this Thursday. And in more new news, our next one you plus exclusive will be, like I said, available Thursday. We both watched the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants. We did?

Yeah. It's happened.

It was an electric movie. I'll tell you what had me glued to the screen the whole time. Our first meeting of the new Heights film club. And we're going to give you guys our review. Make sure you tune in to find out whether Jason was right to judge the movie or its title or if he was actually, like, pleasantly surprised by the movie. Who knows? You won't want to miss this. And make sure that if you want to be a part of the film club with us, sign up for Onery plus. You'll get an early access of episodes without interruptions. And we're still giving you three free months of onery +. One + offer is only available for a limited time, so get on it. Visit1jury.com New heights offered to redeem.

I don't think it did match the title.

I mean, yeah.

Did the pants really aren't a big part of the movie to me?

What the pants are like, the bringing them into a lot of their, like.

Well, we don't want to get too much of this review. We're Going to save it.

Yeah. It definitely had something to do with the movie.

Had nothing to do with it.

It tied all the girls together, Jason.

Yeah, you're right. They're in charge of childhood and friendship.

No.

Their entire life.

That's not enough. We need pants. We'll talk about it in the one two plus, though.

It shouldn't even be. It should be the. Like, they weren't even. They acted like they were jeans. They couldn't. Like. The whole movie's premise is like, these girls are amazed because it's the first pair of jeggings they tried on and there's some spandex to them.

You're giving it away, Jason. You're giving your review.

Sisterhood of the Traveling Jeggings. That's what it should have been called.

Yeah.

Out of the house. Moving on. We both got out of the house this past week, and we're going to talk about it. Out of the House is brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express. I tailgated at the Link and then went up to East Rutherford, New Jersey, where I tailgated with Buffalo Bills and New Jersey jets fans. New York jets fans. Trav, you had a buy this week, and there's a small chance that we also saw you out of the house.

Yeah. No, you saw me at the Guards and Gangs game.

We saw you before. That, too. Is courtesy of this picture right here. We saw you going out to eat. It looked like maybe you guys are out in New York City, you and Tay.

That's what we do. We like to go out and eat. Yes.

Yeah. I mean, who doesn't? Why wouldn't you? What in the world was the shirt, though? We got to show this.

I don't. I have no idea. I think it's just art. I think it's just people. And then there's a horse. I don't know what's underneath that horse. I'm not sure. I didn't. I didn't really look at this shirt like that when I got it. I just like the color and the patterns and stuff. It looks like a hand.

Yeah. You can't really see.

It's like a pointing finger like that.

It's kind of cropped. Funny, but that. I mean, on this picture, it kind of appears like it's a horse car.

That'd be crazy if I was wearing a horse.

Wearing a horse.

That's crazy. Yeah. That's why you always gotta. You always gotta really, you know, you gotta make sure you know what you're wearing. Kids or you're just everybody can just assume now.

Oh, gosh. Well, we do know what you're wearing, because British GQ did a whole breakdown on the shirt.

Oh, nice. Thanks. British gq? Yes.

In New York City, the American football player wore a navy bowling shirt with a camp collar design and a boxy fit. Released as part of Jacquemeus latest La Salle La casa line. It's a signature move from the French label. Flowy, fun, and more vibrant Marsai than minimalist Paris. It's a fancy way of saying it's a button down with horses and people on it.

People.

I mean, that's what you got out of that. Look at these two people right here.

You're ridiculous.

That woman is riding that, man.

They're. They're. She's standing next to each other. No, they're not.

No, no, no, not that one. The one right below it. You can't even see that guy's legs.

They're still. They're sitting next to each other.

No, no, no, he's underneath.

You're making. There's nothing saying that. That they're having sex.

Well, what are her tits out for if they're not having sex, Travis, she.

Could just be wearing a very tight shirt that shows her her tits.

She's got a BBL on the back side of that. I mean, what's happening on this shirt?

Those hams are. Those hamstrings are the hamstrings Match it.

You're right. You're right.

You're ridiculous. The fact that that got you fired up is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.

Trav, we also saw you at the Guardians Yankees game while you were in New York. You also caught Guardian Jankies ALCS game.

Yeah, game one, baby.

Playoff baseball. What is it about playoff baseball that's so electric?

Gosh, I think it's just the intensity. You know, you play all those. Was it 182 games, you know, for these moments, and then every single pitch matters. Every single pitch matters. A few got away from our. Our first reliever there, unfortunately. And sure enough, we just weren't able to bounce back from the Yankees power, man. It's. Yeah, I'll tell you what, man. When Stanton and Soto, when they get a hold of one, man, that ball flies off the bat, man. It is impressive. It is impressive. My guy Judge is. He's right there on having a huge game. And I mean, the whole time I'm just. I'm screaming, I'm. I'm. I'm in hostile territory. Cause it's the Bronx Bombers, and I'm. I'm at the Yankee Stadium in the playoffs and I'm over here cheering for the guards because I'm a Cleveland kid and I want to see Cleveland win a fucking World Series. And yeah, it was mixed feelings because I was there trying to have some fun with Tay and everybody. All our friends Eli and Chelsea came. Lefkoe and Enum came.

Oh, nice.

We had a unbelievable crew with us and hanging with us. And, you know, it was. It was fun. It was fun. Even though the guards couldn't pull it off, it was still an exciting, exciting game. And it was cool to see Yankee Stadium because I've always wanted to see that thing in person in a playoff game, in a hostile environment. And it didn't disappoint, man, the Yankees, the fans, the players, everybody involved, man, it was awesome.

There is something about playoff baseball that. And I love regular baseball. Anytime you go down the ballpark, you're getting a hot dog and a beer, you're having some fun.

Oh, yeah.

But playoff baseball, it's like almost the history of it. You just get swept up in like the moment. It's one of the most iconic. I will say, I don't think it's as good as playoff hockey. I don't know that anything competes a playoff hockey now, but playoff baseball is pretty dang good.

I feel like. I feel like it, it does because you, you can get the plea, you know, the player stories a little bit more. And not to say that hockey doesn't do a great job of that, but you just don't see, you know, hockey players wanting to put themselves out there for everybody to get to know them. It just is what it is. It's just not kind of the culture of the, of the league, I don't think.

Yeah, I think that's probably fair. I think it's. Yeah, I do think that's part of the culture. Part of it's, you know, it's just not as popular of a sport as, as baseball. Yeah, they're wearing, you know, the helmets and stuff. So you see them, they got the open face mask, most of them. Yeah, I think you're right. I think a lot of it does come down to the hockey culture.

I just feel like I'm more invested in every single player. Like if. If the Yankees play the Dodgers, you know, a little New York versus the old Brooklyn Dodgers.

You're right. It's. It's a sport that's ruled by the, by the. The star power. It's a star power driven league.

You put a guy like Shohei Otani in New York, dude. And. And you like. I want to see how he reacts to, you know, a hostile environment like that. I think that's exciting for me to see as a. As a player. So every single time I see him up at bat, I'm going to be glued into every single pitch. It's hard to find that in any other sport, you know, let alone in the playoffs.

I think it's also. We just grew up in the 90s with the Indians and we just loved baseball so much because they were so good. How many World Series or playoff games did we go to? I know you went to one World Series game.

You did. I only went to the.

You went to the All Star. That's right.

I went to the All Star. You went to the World Series. I remember going to. Just taking the Rapid downtown and going to games for like a $5, $10 ticket or if a friend had an extra ticket for me, we would all just jump on the Rapid and go downtown.

Yeah, mom and dad didn't have many tickets bought. We usually were.

It was either throughout work or we were tag alongs with somebody else.

Sailors had season tickets that they would split up with a couple other people. So every once in a while, go with Brandon. We did go to the one playoff game together because mom always tells a story about how we fell asleep in like the fourth inning or something like that. We were like fast asleep because it was a late game.

No way.

Do I gotta text mom right now?

No, I just. There's no way I ever have fell asleep at a, at a Tribe game.

Mom tells this story.

I don't think we were kids. Maybe you were asleep.

We were like very young. We were both asleep. I promise.

Maybe, maybe if we went to the game and I really didn't know what was going on, but every game that I went to, I was. I was the biggest, like, fiend for sports ever. If I ever went to a ballgame or a, like a basketball game or anything like that, like, I was so glued.

Travis, nobody is, Nobody is attacking your.

Fan crazy if you think that I was sleep during one of these games.

It doesn't matter how big you say.

Beg mom and dad to buy the $20 roster book so that I could actually keep score of the game, which means I'm watching every single pitch.

Nobody is at all.

And I'm telling you saying that you.

Weren'T a big fan.

I think she's just saying that you fell asleep. I was, I was paying attention.

Mom will text me back hopefully if the Hurricane didn't ruin her phone. I think that you. The thing is like, my kids, Bluey is like crack to them. They won't. They will be glued to Bluey, but they're still children. And eventually that brain is going to shut it down and they're just going to fall asleep.

I don't know what to tell you. I never fell asleep at a game.

All right, I'll text Ed too. Dad was there, but.

Yeah. Shout out to my. Shout out to my guys that I actually know on the Yanks. Rizzo, big judge. If I'm missing somebody, I'm an idiot, but those guys are a hall of fame. Just people, man. Just all like. They're some of my favorite guys to be around when I do get a chance to hang out with them. Saw some Saturday Night Live two years ago, I believe with them. And it's just cool seeing them, seeing them chase it, chase the ring. Even though I want my guards to find a way to get him, man.

Come on, baby.

Come on, baby. This is a tough place to play though, brother.

I text dad. Did Travis and I ever fall asleep at an Indians game? He said no, I did.

I mean, dad. Yeah, he's like us. That's where we get our sleeping from. He could fall asleep at a rock.

Does not matter. We had some Cleveland sports that we were getting into. You went to the Guards game and I saw a Browns game.

Yeah. Jason was tailgating. How about it? Who knew Jason tailgating? It was the second weekend in a row you got to do some tailgating out there in a Philly and. Well, tailgating in general, I guess. Philly. This is the first time in like two weeks you actually hit two different tailgates. Let's start with the Eagles game first. How was your second time tailgating at the Link was. It was a. You know, a little bit more genuine this time. Knowing you didn't have all the. Did I guess you still had cameras following you.

There were cameras following? Yeah. This one, the first one was more like a pre planned deal. This one was kind of like just show up and like try and experience it, but it turned into chaos. Yeah, it was a blast, man.

It was the Carmichael jersey maybe.

Yeah, baby. Shout out to Harold.

Are you a Jersey guy now?

I am. Especially the throwbacks. Dude, I got my guy. We're going to talk about the. The Bills jets game in a second. I got a great jersey from that one, but it was awesome. Rocking. Harold Carmichael used to. Dude, Harold used to be the director of player development. That was his role at the Eagles when I first got here, so got to spend a lot of time with him. He was instrumental in helping a lot of young players and the rookies out, getting acclimated, new people to the city. Just an awesome personality. So it was really cool to wear his jersey, and it was awesome to go tailgate. I mean, listen, Got to hold up a baby. You see this picture right here?

Yeah.

Like, you know.

No way. That's actually the words. That's not it.

I think those are the words. I also witnessed somebody get engaged in front of me. That was not planned, at least on my behalf. That came out of nowhere.

Oh, Brian Dawkins got married.

Brian Dawkins proposed to this one lovely lady.

And were there any Philadelphia delicacies that you got into? Like alligator?

Yeah, alligator was not on the menu this week, but there were cheesesteaks. Everybody's got sausage. One of the guys had this jerk chicken set up on this charcoal, like, tailgate. It was probably a grill specifically for tailgate. I had never seen it, though. It was dope, just sitting on the ground. Let me tell you, these chicken thighs, pretty damn good.

I had. My first time. I had a. I had jerk beef.

Jerk beef. I've never heard of jerk beef. Who's doing jerk beef?

Never mind. I don't even know if it was that. It was a jerk pasta. It was a jerk pasta with beef in it.

I mean, you can do jerk anything, probably. It's just the jerk seasoning.

Yeah.

I've just never had. I've only ever had jerk chicken, maybe pork.

And lastly, there was an insane video going around of you chugging a beer.

Yeah.

The focus wasn't as much on you as it was on the cameraman next to you. And this is why you shouldn't go on top of trailers, kids.

I will say this woman was up there already, and she offered to go up there again. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to turn down the opportunity to go up on a trailer. I've never been on top of a trailer. Almost felt like. You know what it reminded me of? I felt like I was in Tremors. I felt like I was like one of the guys in Tremors up on the bus. You remember that scene, the. The worm things that were tunnel in.

The ground through the desert?

Yeah. And they would get up on top of vehicles and stuff so they weren't touching the ground. And then we start popping the tires.

Yeah.

I don't know. I got an insane flashback the moment I got up there. My guy. I don't know how he got up there. This ladder was like. I was nervous going up myself. Like, very old. Like, did not look like it was adhered very well. And somehow this guy climbed up there with the camera. I mean, it was impressive that he's up there to begin with.

Yeah.

Didn't know there was a skylight there. Stepped. Broke right through the window in the. In the roof. Luckily. He's good. He's okay. Camera fell down. I thought it was done.

Donezo.

He ran down there fast, picked it up, started recording. Worked perfectly fine. I don't know how.

What. That's how durable those things are.

I don't think that they're supposed they are, but somehow that thing must have fell just right. It was insane.

That's. That's like a 1012 foot drop right there.

Yeah. That's like a $200,000 piece of equipment right there. That camera. I would assume that thing is expensive.

Were you like shooting a doc? Was that your camera? Was that your guy?

They're helping with another thing we're doing with ESPN that I think we're waiting to kind of unleash that.

Nice.

They were there shooting with that. They're really with NFL films is who they're with. But they camera dropped kind of. I thought it was gone for sure. Luckily, I knew he was all right with the way he got up, and then he just kept up and kept recording. Who's a trooper?

Electric. This is why you chug people. This good things happen. When you chug, you get good content.

Well, now I'm two for two now at Eagles tailgates. My man Dunphy almost tore his acl.

Did. Yeah.

Luckily he's okay. Well, doesn't need surgery. And now this. I might. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm cursed.

Yeah. I hope if you see Jason chugging, don't move.

Yeah. So this was awesome. It was a. Is a fun time, fun event being out there with the Eagles fans. A little weird seeing Browns fans. And I was ribbing them. But obviously being from Cleveland, I still love the Browns. In particular, there's this one 10 dudes were awesome. They're from St. Ignatius. Really happy to be there. So it was cool seeing some brownies in attendance.

Some fellow believe lenders.

This is a big game.

It was a big game week six.

It's not divisional, but both of the teams needed the win bad. Like Cleveland is in a bad spot right now. And I mean, honestly, if we're being real honest, they're a bad football team. I mean, it Was. I came away watching that game thinking Cleveland's worse than anything else. Like that offense just cannot get it figured out right now.

I think it was a. It was a rough go around for both teams because we heard some Sirianni chance. But we'll get to that later. Let's. Let's talk a little bit of Monday Night Football countdown. Little Monday Night Countdown with espn send you to the Bills jets game and in the Meadowlands and you were reunited with your people. Bill's Mafia.

Dude.

You started. Yeah, you started things off by once again drinking out of a bowling ball. Got that one back in. You like that one so much. Except this time we actually know what was in it.

Yes. Gatorade. If Pinto round offers me a shot out of a bowling ball, I'm not going to turn down Pinto Round. I'm not doing it.

Why? Why blue Gatorade?

Because I'm not supposed to drink when I'm on Monday Night Countdown. It's one of the caveats of working for espn. They don't like you to be seen drinking alcohol or even drinking alcohol before they put you on live television.

That's fair.

Unless you're Pat McAfee. Then you get away with whatever you want.

When you're the greatest, you get different. Yeah. You get treated differently. It is what it is.

Well, yeah. Pass the man. So what I'm wearing right there is a hat from the water Buffalo Club 716. And they have a grand poobah.

What? The grand poobah.

And that's what the Fred Flintstone outfit is. And they anointed me that, which is basically, I'm king of the tailgate for the day. I'm king of Bill, which.

Nice.

Felt a little weird getting while I wore this jersey in honor of a legendary defensive lineman who recently, unfortunately passed away this week. Abdul Salam. That's right. The last member of the New York sack exchange, not in the ring of honor for the New York jets, but known as the soldier of peace. But yeah, we were. We were having a lot of fun out there in the tailgate. Bill's Mafia. It doesn't matter where they're at. They're having fun. Fellow Midwesterners, obviously there's a kinship.

Buffalo's Midwest.

Anybody that. Well, I, I consider anybody that is resigned.

There's no way.

You're right. If you're on the lake, you. All those cities, just good people. They think the same. They all just want to have fun. And it's a great time being out there with the Buffalo Bills Mafia. The jets fans are awesome, too.

Jets fans were fun when I watched you last year playing the Jets.

The Bills mafia is more of a production. Like, they have a lot more going on. There's, like, people that travel, and obviously there's a way game for them. So those fans have, like, their, their, their. Their like rituals that they're going to with everything.

Yeah.

Whereas, like, the jets fans, it was like, oh, yeah, I used to be a firefighter. Now just go tailgate to the games. Like, it was, you know, a lot of that. Kind of appreciated, too.

For sure.

Got a hard hat, dude. This is one of the baddest hats.

Like, I gotta say, dude, this is pretty cool. You're like. You're, like, getting.

I'm just, like, using it to get knickknacks.

Yeah, this is sweet.

I mean, hook me up.

Oh, you're gonna be a hoarder. Before you know it, people are going to be giving you everything that's good right there. And then you. You had a wardrobe change after you went tailgating, though, Jason. You actually. You actually put on a suit.

Suit and tie.

How about it?

I think the suit's nice. I think that that's one. There's a reason why people have worn suits for a long time. So getting up there with a tie, this one obviously fit color scheme wise with the game. My man Ryan Clark was in the jets suit colors. This one, I had this color already in my closet.

Electric blue.

And I'm like, man, I don't know when I'm ever going to wear this. Like, very blue blue. Like, I don't know when that's gonna happen. I was like, you know what? I think this might be the perfect week. New York Jets.

I could see. I could see you playing for the Bills.

I would have fit in really well. Yeah. I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick, anybody with a beard is going to fit in well with the beard with the Bills, right?

Yeah, man. You snapping it to Josh Allen would have been dangerous. God damn it.

Snapping into Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Ooh, Fitz magic.

All right, now, Bill's Bills is a sound that appreciates their offensive line too. Much like Cleveland, much like Philadelphia. The Bills, like my man Eric Wood, he's been up there. He's like, calls the games for Bills radio and stuff like that. Still, he would. Yeah, it's a town that definitely appreciates the big guys up front. So it's. It's an offensive line haven town.

I get it. Well, where'd you get this? This Buffalo. Buffalo wing necklace.

So Teresa was the one giving out the grand puba attire. And there was another woman. I don't remember her name, but she had the buffalo wing necklace for me, which is my kind of jewelry.

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Obviously always good when you win. Some good takeaways from the game. Defense played a lot better. No turnovers for the offense in general. Still though, I came away from the game again. We kind of mentioned this earlier, thinking more about, you know, Cleveland probably is a struggling team right now than I did thinking that the Eagles really controlled the game. So I don't think it was like an impressive performance by either team. But that being said, wins a win, baby. I'm taking that all day, all day, every day. They improved in some areas that they've been struggling. Defense played so much better and I think offensively it was sporadic. It felt a little bit disconnected, but at times good. And then obviously whenever you got A.J. brown back and healthy, it's not a bad thing.

Don't forget Skinny Batman. You had both AJ And Skinny Batman, Smitty back in the offense, but you guys still haven't scored in the first quarter yet through five games. Zero points in the first quarter of every single game they played so far.

Yeah, I think they were driving towards the end of that first quarter, so it almost happened. But I think, yeah, it hasn't been a good start to games. And as you know, a lot of starts to games come down to like what you have planned coming in and what you think you're going to see. And I think the Eagles, you know, I don't want to speak for this this year because I don't know as much whether that's happening this year. But Jalen has always been a guy that's been schemed differently because he's a different quarterback. Right. You tend to run different plays and offensive structures and a lot of other teams do. So I don't know if it's like they're not getting quite what they expect. I think some of it's just bad execution. Like I've definitely seen drops and slow starts from the players. So I think a lot of it is just accountability on both sides. Right. Players have to be accountable to getting off to a faster start and being locked in to start the game. And then I think also offensively, you know, getting to stuff that you Feel like is maybe you're more of your bread and butter.

Does that make sense? Like sometimes I think the early plays end up being game plan specific plays. Maybe start with plays that are more just generic. Part of your offense maybe. I don't know. I'm kind of grasping the straws.

It feels like the Eagles are starting to get a little frustrated with it. At least the Eagles players. Lane Johnson hit us with the all time quote. We're a constipated offense. That's what it bleeping feels like.

Yeah, it's accurate.

A constipated office. I mean, that shit's in there, man. Yeah, the shit's in there. Just gotta get this shit out.

Going.

Yeah, you already know.

I think it's a great definition and you know, go for, go figure. Lane just can pull that out of his ass. The constipated offense, great line. And that's what. It's exactly what it feels like. It just feels kind of disconnected, out of rhythm. It feels like it's like they have the players, they make spot plays here and there, but it doesn't feel like that full onslaught of plays that go off one another that you're typically seeing. Yeah, it's more like guys making plays, like AJ going up there and catching a 50, 50 ball, which I don't know there are any 50, 50 balls with AJ Brown. Obviously the run game struggled a little bit, which, you know, Cleveland's got some horses up front. They got good players, so shout out to them for showing up and my man Jim Schwartz for dialing up a game plan. They had some plays that were there. They did. They just watching it back. They had some counters, they had some things drawn up where it's like, man, if that just happens, that thing's creased. There was an early run where like Saquon runs into Landon Dickerson and like Landon Dickerson makes the tackle, right?

And it's like he's on the single safety. Like that's at least a 10 yarder. You know, he breaks one tackle. Explosive run.

Who knows how big it is.

Yeah, you know, there's plays to be had. Some of it comes down to executing, some of it just feels like I think that they're trying to figure things out right now because they've struggled a little bit in recent weeks, especially missing AJ and devonte that I think will continue to get better. Obviously having those guys out there this week helped. Another week of, you know, figuring themselves out. You know, hopefully this offense keeps going, starts to find some rhythm and is a Little bit less constipated.

Yeah, more explosive. Well, AJ Brown finished with six receptions for 116 yards and a touchdown. Jalen connected with to AJ for the first TD of the game, a 22 yarder. He also caught an electric game, ceiling reception. A 40 yard pass with two minutes left to play. It sounds like Cleveland might have went cover zero and they just said fuck it, we're putting it up. What do you think of this, this play call here late in the game. And also did Wyatt notice his pink shoes are back?

I was not watching with Wyatt, but she probably did.

It was not cover zero. It was just straight up cover one with the safeties up and. Or man hole. Hole is what we call it. Double hole. Kind of picking crossers and just making the quarterback throw over top, which he did. He did beautifully. Great pitching catch by guys. Two guys that know how to do it. The best in the league.

Listen, it's A.J. brown. He's going to come down with these catches like nine times out of ten. He's a beast. He's swole Batman. I do think back to the slow starts and maybe game plan specific plays. It felt like a good way to buck that sometimes is utilizing tempo. And I think that they do it sometimes, but it feels like Jalen, when they go into these two minute situations, he goes more into like automatic mode. I wouldn't be opposed to them maybe mixing some tempo early in the game like here and there to, you know, spark some momentum. And I think that it's worked in the past with him in particular. And I think as an offense, I always liked when you're going tempo, you have to call more generic stuff that goes off of one another. It's like, hey, we know we like this versus this. We know we like this versus this. And it kind of, you know, because of the tempo nature of it, you can't do all these crazy things now. I like the Kellen's brought more motions and more interesting things. We still need to do that. But maybe sometimes early on just to like get in the rhythm.

Sometimes using. Utilizing that helps. So maybe they do that.

I don't know.

Yeah, it's probably the coach's coach though.

Yeah, coaches know best and they'll keep figuring it out. Sirianni knows what he's doing over there. Devonte Smith also had a big day, finished with three catches for 64 yards. It's good to see that dynamic duo in the wide receiver group over there starting to get back on track. But Nick Sirianni, the big things coming out of this game that we got to talk about. Sirianni appears to be chirping back at the Eagles, and I'm not sure if he was necessarily chirping back or if, you know, like it was a confrontation or if he was just, you know, trying to get fired up with him. We don't know what was actually said, at least I don't think so. The fans who Nick Sirianni was yelling at after the Eagles win posted his side of the story context on Reddit. Nice. He's a Reddit guy. I began to yell in quotes, if your start running back gets you five yards on the, on first down, you give it to him again. Run. Run the ball. Run the ball. And I had some more to say, but you get the point. Yeah, it sounds like Eagles fans coaching in the and that's what they do.

They let the coach know what they think they should do. I mean, it's, it's fans, the Nick.

Sirianni run the ball stuff. You know, Nick turned around, obviously everybody saw this, gestured for him to calm down and said something to the effect we will, don't worry, I'm on it. Or actually they didn't see that. So Nick turned around beforehand, gestured to him to calm down, said something to the effect that we will, don't worry about it. Fast forward the end of the game, came over to us and said, hey, I told you we'd run it. I told you. Admittedly, paraphrasing, I had indulged quite a bit. The point is I was, it was not unwarranted, nor did I see it as aggressive.

I don't know.

There's no way for us to verify if this fan was indeed the fan that Nick was yelling at. This is a Reddit post which is far from a verified source, but it is intriguing because I think that would lead you to believe that this maybe not be as big of a deal as everybody's saying it is. And it probably isn't. Regardless, I think Nick and his presser announced, you know, we thrive off of the crowd, they cheer for us. And the team had been trying to get him back to being the like, emotional leader that he is. And obviously he commented on Monday, you know, I was trying to bring the energy, enthusiasm, all that. I'm sorry, disappointed in the way I directed it. At the end of the game, manager should be all in on coaching, motivating, celebrating our guys so he knows that, listen, it's a lose, lose operation. When you start going back and forth with fans. It's tough it's never going to be seen. Right. It only empowers people to talk more trash because they know they're getting to you. We talked about this with Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa at the Link.

Fish on, fish on. We got him. Like, you can't do it. It's just not going to help. But and people, I've seen this because I said this on Monday night. Like people are like, oh, you're defending Nick. I'm not defending him. I think this is. He shouldn't be doing this. Like, I don't think that that's right. But at the same time I will defend him and like he needs to be emotional, he needs to be passionate. That's when he is a better coach and he knows that and the team knows that. And I think that directing it in the right way is what we want to see. And I think that for the majority of the game that's what you saw. You saw Nick fired up. The team, needed that, they needed to win this game. He knows what's on the line and it's getting. The sense of urgency is high right now in Philadelphia. So yeah, not good to be directing it in this way. Nick knows that, that's clear. Hopefully he can continue to bring the passion and the energy in more productive ways that won't have a bunch of people on TV shouting about stuff.

Yeah, that'd be great.

Well, I feel like you, you just gave us your final thoughts.

So that's about it. You know, I think that it was still an underperformance by the Eagles. They still got a lot to work on. But the good thing is is week four or week, sorry. Good thing is week six. Is that right?

Week seven, Week seven, Game six, Week seven.

God damn. This thing is flying by.

Yeah, it is.

Wow.

Yeah. And Eagles are going to take the subway over to New York or New Jersey, I should say.

We got the Giants as we Giants haven't been looking that bad.

Yeah, Saquon, turn to the Meadowlands, baby.

Haven't been looking great on offense but their defense is looking dang good. So it'll be a fun game.

We did have one voice of reason, maybe an unlikely voice of reason from our guy Dumpy. Eagles are literally a wide open two yard Saquon Barkley catch away from being four and one while missing A.J. brown for three weeks. And the lone loss being when A.J. brown, Smitty and Lane Johnson were all out.

That's a reasonable take, Dumpy.

God damn Dump. That's a good fucking take.

Level headed Philly Fanatic tattoo around your belly button. Take right there.

You don't always get that out of, out of those kind of Philly fans.

Those die hards sometimes.

Those die hards sometimes. Just pour it on them.

All right, week six recap. Not the best week for football last week. Great week for football. So the offenses reinvigorate around the league. This week got back to a little bit of sloppiness. The big news break that we have following the week is Devonte Adams is now a jet jets coming off of their loss Monday Night Football to the Bills. Short lived amount of agony Jets. Jake, I mean jumping for joy. This is, this should expand the offense. Obviously. Garrett, Wilson, Lazar, it's going to add another dynamic every time.

Anytime any offense or anytime any hall of Fame quarterback gets this kind of receiver or gets his like legendary receiver that he has been always on the same page with, gets him back. Yeah, no, that this offense is going to be a lot better and it just is what it is.

Yeah, absolutely. The offense looked reinvigorated too with Todd Downing calling plays yesterday. It just felt like you were moving the ball, man.

They were moving the ball, man.

They were handing it off back to the fan that Nick got into it. Run the ball, coach.

Run the ball.

That's a good point.

Other news, Cowboys home losing streak now at three. They've lost three in a row. They didn't lose a single regular season home game last year. I don't think that's crazy. They've lost three this season after.

It wasn't just a loss this week either. Man. It was ugly.

On Jerry Jones birthday. Happy birthday. Jerry almost got a 50 burger from.

The Detroit Lions and they were, they were, they were around, I'm not gonna lie. They were throwing hook and laterals to offensive linemen. They were throwing offensive linemen out outside the numbers. Acting like they were doing running receiver screen.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh yeah.

Dan Skipper eligible.

Yeah, it was, it was interesting. But I don't think anybody can really point a finger on what exactly is wrong with the Cowboys. It just doesn't look like they're playing very well together.

Yeah, they've struggled to stop the run all year round and I just think the games that the defense has really struggled has been like the Ravens, Detroit Shocker, both those teams really good.

Run the fuck out of the ball. Yeah.

Right at you. They've gotten. It felt like they were getting better and you know, Detroit is just so good at it and they've been asserting their will all season long. And then Jared Goff hits it behind you. I mean, it's, it's Ben Johnson, the guys that they have in Detroit, it's an impressive, impressive unit on their offensive side of the ball and defensive. But obviously we saw Aiden Hutchinson go down with a very graphic injury, almost like an MMA style. Hopefully he's all right. He'll get back eventually when he gets healthy.

Great player. That shit sucks, man. That sucks for the game of football, man. And obviously it sucks for him and his family, man. Nobody likes to see an injury, let alone one like that. And hopefully he gets, he gets right back to full strength as fast as possible, knowing how amazing of a player he is. But shout out to the Hutchinson fan, man.

Hopefully Dallas can get back to full strength. Michael Parsons, they need some of their guys back. It'll be interesting to see how the NFC shakes out. It's. Washington's been doing a hell of a job. I know they lost this week to the, I mean, the monster that's over there in Baltimore, but you know, they've been trending good. It's wide open right now in the NFCS. Other results from across the league. Texans 41, Patriots 21. Texans come out on top. Texans started, they kind of. They've been winning games. It's honestly reminds me a little bit of you guys where they just find a way to get it done at the end of games. A C.J. stroud and company.

Yeah. Especially with Drake May getting his debut. Patriots man, putting up 21 points. Not bad day for a debut. Yeah. Packers, Cardinals. Packers run away with that one. The most interesting game to me though was that Ravens Commanders game. I really wanted to see how the young guy handled the pressure of going up against a Ravens defense because they, they fly around, they're smart, they're well coached. They just, they always have a knack for, for getting around the football. And they made, they didn't make it easy on the young guy, man.

Well, he played all right. I thought actually Jaden played well. The thing that they really struggled. They've been great at running the ball all season long. The Ravens took that away and it made it like, hey, you're going to have to beat us. And he still played well. He had him and Terry McClaren, they're building a hell of a connection. McLaren had a couple catches where I'm.

Like, how scary, Terry.

Did this dude just catch this ball? It was unbelievable.

It's like he pulls out one of those every fucking game now. Well, the, the Bucks put up a 50 burger on the Saints, man. Yes, they Did Bucks offense, man, that's another one when they're running the fucking football.

Good luck.

It is going to make Baker's day so much easier if he can just get some good play action and really get everybody to declare what they're doing here and get our guy Mike Evans in a fucking one on one situation. I mean that's.

Dude, you go look at their offense. Quietly, I mean besides maybe the Denver game. I think quietly, their offense has been killing people.

Explosive.

Yeah, yeah, they are making plays. They are looking real good. It was a weird game too. They jumped out to like a three score lead almost. Then they, the Saints came back and took the lead and then all of a sudden it was like a runaway show for the Bucs. Very weird.

Yeah, well. Steelers 32, Raiders 13. And the Steelers said, no, that's not good enough. Justin Fields. We're going to go ahead and go with Russell Wilson. I don't understand. I thought the Steelers were playing pretty good with Justin Fields, but I guess they, they got something else hidden in their back pocket. Thinking that Russell's going to give them more offense.

They got it done. Versus the Raiders. That's all that matters, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They're winning football games. Yeah. Another. Any, Any other more interesting games, I guess.

Bears over Jackson and London. Caleb Williams, second consecutive week where you can see the young fellows starting to build some chemistry. He's looking better. Joe Flacco wins another One for the Colts. 49ers getting back to, you know, maybe a little bit of what they have been. Seahawks have struggled a little bit ever since the Lions game.

They're. They're another one dealing with some injuries.

Yeah. The Lions play so physical. There's some crazy stat, I don't know what it is off the top of my head of like teams after they play the Lions that they're like win percentages way down.

Yeah.

Because of how physical that game is.

Fucking biting kneecaps, man.

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DEB13M. Now that the NHL season has started, which hockey players, past or present, do you think could play in the NFL and at what position? Eric Lindros could play in the NFL. Yeah, he was pretty confident about that one.

You think he's a tight end dude I.

So he came to the golf out and we had for B Philly this year.

I remember you told me he's massive, man. Massive dude. Yeah.

Like he could have put on weight easily and played online. He definitely could have played tight end.

Yeah, I'm thinking he was a tight end.

I think that that's probably the most accurate for what his stature was during a number.

88. Come on.

There we go.

Little Dallas Goddard.

Okay. Eight. Eight.

Who else? Freaking yagger with this freaking mullet. Would have been awesome to watch out there on a football field.

That would have been awesome to see. I don't know what position he's playing, but I'm with you. You think Claudia could have found his way as a wide receiver or something?

I don't know. Maybe. I mean, he's feisty.

I told you. Maybe db.

You used to come in and ask the arm wrestler. I don't know. DB's tough. Maybe safety. Maybe safety. He used to come in and ask their arm wrestle anybody. Like, he's just one of them type of guys. So mentality wise. Yes, mentality wise, absolutely.

Complain.

The NFL physically gonna have to see that.

What about some of the bruisers from the league? What's his name playing for the fucking Leafs? Who he. Who did he play for last year?

I always think it's Zdeno charo.

Charo, the 611 defender from Boston. He could play DNA. I mean, what position would he play?

I think he'd be a dn. Got the reach. He's got some, like, wiggle to him. You can put some weight on. Play some offensive tackle.

There you go.

That's what I mean. Defenseman. Just keep the guy in front of you. He's got that skill.

You think a guy like McDavid, who's the fastest thing on fucking ice, can. Can play receiver or running back? He kind of. He weaves like a running back when he's on the.

He does. He's got the elusiveness, but it's got.

The vision for running back.

Yeah, it's just hard to gage because skating is so. I've seen guys that skate incredibly well, and then you see them run on a field and it's just not the same. Not that they're unathletic, but it's like. It's a different. It's an entirely different muscle group that you're activating ice skating than you are when you're actually running. But the elusiveness is there, the quickness is. The twitch is there.

Maybe past or present, is Wayne Gretzky Finding his way on the NFL football field?

I don't think so. As much as Wayne's in there, I don't. I mean, he's in the. You know, we talk about this later with Pat. Greatness is greatness. So probably would find. Figure it out. But he didn't. He never struck me as like having speed or like.

Have you ever seen him race? Have you seen this? They did like crossover. Like who? What was it? It was him and like three other professional athletes. I think you're right.

And they did 100 meter dash and he smoked.

Everybody smoked some.

You're right.

You know what is rolling?

There we go. There we go. Intern Brandon.

Who is it? Who do. Who else is out there?

I forget. I don't. You know, top.

Sugar Ray Leonard.

Sugar Ray was one of them. Yep.

Oh, Pele. Yeah.

I'm not as impressed with Bjorn Borg losing, but beaten Pele, that's something.

Dude, he's not just beating them, he's crushing them. He's rolling on them. You know, he was a two sport athlete. I'm pretty sure he got drafted by the Expos.

Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm gonna say? He could have done it.

Dude, I'm right there.

I mean, the form is not great. Let's be honest.

He runs like fucking does that. Sugar Raid. Switching lanes.

Sugar Ray, just switch lanes. He's like trying to catch some wind. He's trying to drift.

He's trying to get some drift action.

He's like, hey, I ain't winning this one. I might as well get second. My man's smart.

That's funny.

That's hilarious. Oh, man, I will say they're running like some. I mean, let's be honest. They. It's.

Dude, what do you mean that's. Who. Who used to run like that? Chris Collins with used to run like that.

Dude, they're running like. You ever seen Josh Allen run his 40s? I love Josh with his straight arms. You ever seen that?

Yeah, he definitely has the straight arms. For sure. Yes, he's. When they told him. Arms at a band, arms at a 90.

No, sir. Matter what it looks like. He's a baller.

All right. That big dog is rolling.

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I'm so pumped for this.

I know we've been waiting for this one.

I don't even know if I'm gonna ask a question. I'm just gonna fucking just sit here and just listen to my guy just fucking go.

I mean, dude, I don't think there's anybody better at listening to than the guy that's about to come on.

There's not. There's not. I still listen to him every single day. He's the only one. I don't. I don't. I don't turn the TV on for anybody else but him. And Scott Van Pelt, svp and then you when I have to.

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Oh, I told you about that jerk beef. There was a jerk beef. There was a jerk pasta at that. It was very interesting. I'd never heard of a dish like this in my life, so I gave it a run, and it was pretty good.

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All right, now it's time to bring on our guest Jason. You want to do the honors?

From Plum, Pennsylvania, he was a national punt, pass and kick champion by the time he was a sophomore in high school. The seventh round pick out of West Virginia, first team All Pro, first team Pro Bowler. He made the PFWA all rookie team and was first team all American. He's a first team Yinzer all the way. You've seen him on College WrestleMania, and of course, the host of the Pat McAfee Show.

Mr. Pat McAfee.

Hell yeah, brother.

Man, you got me jacked up. What an honor it is to be here. Thank you for all those kind things and for doing your research. I've lived an absurd life and obviously this conversation is a piece of that. You two are running the world right now. So for letting me be a part of New Heights, which I've told you I've been a massive fan of for since the beginning of New Heights, this is an honor, a dream. Thank you for the intro and thank you for the time. Although, Jason, you were saying some terrible stuff about, you know, like, position groups.

We're joking here. We're joking here. We're joking here. You know, he's having fun. It's a podcast.

Don't shy away now, Jason.

Yeah, you know, the stats people. You came out. I was joking.

We're just having fun here.

We're having fun here. The kickers.

You. You had a well thought out take. You said. For years I've been thinking about. That's what you said. For years I've been thinking. We've been talking about this. You've been laying at night thinking, like, I need to get this into the show somehow.

How do I work this in?

Listen, you're the greatest of all time, the greatest center of all time, one of the toughest humans ever play football. And obviously your resume is what it is on the football field, so you're allowed to say whatever the hell you want. Travis, if you want to hop into that whole train, you can as well. It's the people that have never played football that decide to dunk on, like kickers and punters and stuff like that. I'm like, you need to relax.

This is why you did the. The college game day. You got. You're starting to bring the fans out here for talking shit.

That's right.

Jason, do you think you can fucking.

Kick a field goal?

Bingo.

You know what? I don't know if my hips got me in it. We might have to find this out.

Get your Tims, Okay? Get your untied Tim.

Get your Tims. It's. Yeah, the old boot style, just straight on.

Oh, get your Tim.

Who is the square toe?

Is that Lou Groza used to do square toe from the Brownies?

Is that. What's the garbage picking, field goal kicking? You remember that Joey.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, that could be the case.

But my problem, my issue is whenever people have never played football before, bury kickers and punters and act like it's an easy thing. It is not an easy thing. Like if you get out there and you play catch, you could probably play catch a little bit. You know, you probably could. If you want to get out there and do maybe hit something or say you probably do that, you try to kick something, most people are going to suck at it. Which is why the college game day thing happened for kicking is easy. Although it's getting expensive, boys. Last two weeks, these guys have made kicks and it's like 200,000 bucks of these guys.

Jesus.

I mean, it's a real deal.

They're starting to practice.

Yeah, I think I'm trying to get hustled too.

I think I'm starting to get hustled.

Yeah, there's a chance. But Jason, I think, I think you should maybe be on the side of kickers because I think it's good for the sport, you know? I am.

Listen, I am. And when I was with Connor and we're. This is like in the middle of training camp and you're. And you're in a one on one situation, you get your ass kicked and then you look over and the kickers are like playing a game, they're like kicking the ball. Like, see how far they can kick it into a ring or something. Like, God damn it.

Fuck these guys. Yeah, me and Vinnie are taking a knee with the helmet on the side.

It's really from a place of jealousy. It's a place of jealousy is what it is.

Hey, you got to put your face in there a little bit more, Jason.

Okay.

I think you got really.

Maybe get a little lower with your pads.

Oh, thanks.

Exactly. So I can understand your feeling about it all, but I think it is, it's good for the game. Like, you know, on this podcast, and I assume you hear it a lot. Travis, you and Taylor's relationship is great for the sport. Like, it is getting introduced to so many people. And you are been the perfect representation for our sport too. I think, personally, genuinely, I think that, I think there's no other human that could do what you're doing right now and how you're doing it is awesome. And I, you need to know that all of us are incredibly fucking proud of the way you're representing all of us.

Dude, you got to keep winning. Soon, as soon as, if I, if, if we lose a game, I mean, it's gonna rain down, baby. Gonna keep winning. She's gonna keep winning. Staying on top.

Yeah. But also smiling at the Guardians games. You know.

All the Clevelanders laughing around a little bit. The guards, baby, we were right there, man. We were right there. You know, I think we were just one hit away from just taking that stadium by storm. The Box Bombers were gonna. They were out there, Boo Boo. Making it. It was a hostile environment out there. I was having a good time.

Okay, well, I'm happy you enjoyed it, but your relationship is exposing the sport to a lot of people, and I think a lot of people are falling in love with it. Globally, worldwide. The gateway for a lot of people to football is going to be the kicking positions. You know, like in Europe, the kickers. And there's going to be kickers and punters coming out of Europe, I think, over the next 15, 20 years.

There has to be, right?

Yeah, yeah.

In Australia and everything. So I think it's good for the sport to have kicking and punting, though. I understand why centers and people that have, like, actual physical, you know, positions with actual ramifications can feel. Feel that way. But I genuinely enjoy the fact that it. It's a sport for everybody. That's like, I think it's gonna help. I think it's gonna help.

Going well, I think. I think you. You brought a new mentality to the. To the specialists because you were out there throwing your fucking weight around.

Come on.

You're out there. You were out there taking some heads off.

Come on, Travis.

We got that clip from the hit versus the Broncos in 2013. You got. You got selected for a drug. A drug test after that. Correct. The league saw that and they freaking said, no, no, no, this can't be. All natural. Punters don't do that to guys.

Yeah, because what Travis just said right there.

Yeah.

I think Roger Goodell was watching that and saying, that guy's got to be on something. Okay, let's go and test him immediately. There's a few of those days, you know, like, you do something good and you don't get drug tested the next day. If you're like a kicker and punter, it's almost like a slap in the face, like, whoa. You didn't think it was that impressive.

I just, you know, hit a 60 yard field goal. You think, I'm not. All right.

Vinitari's like 45 years old hitting like a 58 yarder, and they're not drug testing him the next day. It's like, okay, okay. You know, so it was like a badge of honor. But, yeah, I'll get lucky every once in a while. Hit somebody. I'll be sore, though, for like three, four days. That's why what you guys do. I. I do not understand. I don't know how your guys bodies hold up. Like, Trav right now still, like, you take those shots and you're blocking more. I don't know how your body isn't sore forever. And Jason, whenever that push, push happened, you were getting voted like an accordion. Every single time.

Every single one.

Every time.

Every single time we're hyping it up.

We'Re like, push, push.

Every.

Keep it coming. AQ's like, yep, make him suffer. Make them suffer.

Yeah. I can never do that. That's why you guys are so much tougher. But it's a great sport. Genuinely great sport.

How about it?

God, it's awesome.

The fact that it's for everybody. Hit the nail on the head. I'm. I was talking shit. I deserve all this. And maybe I can. Can I stop by a game day set and see if I can make one of these?

We're in Texas this weekend, brother. You want to stop anytime you want to come by, we will make happen.

Ooh, let me see what the schedule looks like. Maybe not this weekend. Maybe not this weekend, but I think we can make something happen.

Well, I know. So we should promote that it's happening, you know, so we can get a little bit more pressure.

Here we go. That works.

That works.

Make it like a game.

Yeah, yeah. I suck under pressure. I can't even snap the ball to the quarterback.

You know who had to go through this was big. Big Rob Gronkowski kick of the year for the super bowl, right? He. I forget who he.

Who he was.

Yeah. Sandals. They did. That's what it was. Yeah.

And he.

Two years in a row, right?

Yeah.

He was practicing.

Yeah.

That's even worse. I'm not practicing, so there's zero expectation.

It was windy. It was windy. You know, speaking of.

Speaking of the win, what you. That Monday night game, they miss how many they hit the uprights three times or twice?

I think it was four misses, I think all in total. Gosh, There were some bad ones, too. Like Tyler Bass missed that first one. Real bad left. When Joe Buck actually mentioned it, I think he was trying to hit like a little bit of a liner to kind of cut through it.

Yeah, got it.

So he. He tried to hit it a little fat, and then he ended up hitting it too fat. So then you pull that thing it looks nasty, but wind is a problem. You know, wind is always going to be the worst problem.

When you go out on the field and you feel that wind, what are you thinking? Is it like. I'm hope. I'm hoping it's at my back when I'm out there. Like, how does that work? Do you. Does it affect how you're doing it? Obviously punting, but, yeah, me, definitely.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not mentally tough enough for. I like to see the ball fly. You know, there was guys in practice that loaded to use, like, brand new balls. Like, we want practice to be hard so that in the game it's easier. It's like, no, I need to see these balls flying far.

I want to see them pretty. Yeah, yeah.

Give me the juiciest ball we got. And I want to go downwind.

I want to be feeling real good going in there.

But you wake up game day morning, and you open the. The blinds or whatever, and then you try to find a flag on top of a building, and if that son of a. Was at attention, you knew it was going to be. You knew it was going to be a long day, and I was immediately bummed out. In Indianapolis, we have, like, a dome.

Oh, yeah.

But we opened a window in the roof, so it shielded me a little bit. I was very lucky for that. But, yeah, kickers and punters are trying to find out what the wind is immediately upon waking up, and it's certainly a mind and a mood changer.

How about it, man?

You did both at West Virginia. We're gonna get to your West Virginia career in just a little bit. But you did both in college. Which one was harder? Which one do you enjoy more, kicking or punting?

So I enjoyed punting a lot more. I had a strong leg. I didn't know where I was going. You know, that is, I. I could have been really good at kicking, I think, if I just had a little bit better mentality. Exactly.

What?

Yeah. Wow.

You make my heart sing. You make everything groovy.

Yeah, that's what it was. That was my right leg when kicking field goals. Yeah. So punting was better for me because if you're stronger, you're going to help in punting because you have to hit the ball hard every single time. And once I learned the technique, I enjoyed punting a lot more than kicking.

Well, based on that clip we just showed you, Absolutely. Declading a guy on the sideline, did you ever play another position because you don't have that. That form doesn't come out Unless you've done that before.

That aggression doesn't come out unless you've done that before.

Yeah, like that was not the first time you've ever laid a hit like that.

Boys. What, what city are you from?

We're from Cleveland Heights, Ohio.

Okay. I'm from Pittsburgh.

Yep.

Yeah, football town. Of course you did.

These are football tents. Grew up playing pick up football, you know what I mean? It was on the street, in between the telephone poles or it was in somebody's backyard. So I have been playing football my entire life. I played soccer though. So like I played a lot of soccer and also, you know, if from where I'm from, not a lot of people made it in sports ever. So I think when I was young they like decided and deemed that I was going to make it in soccer. So I think nobody really wanted to it up in anything. Right. Soccer was my full focus. But I also played football in the neighborhood in Implom a lot. And everybody that played on a football team I was friends with, I was like 6 foot tall, 190, 182 playing soccer. So football was a natural thing. And then I did that punt, pass and kick. You talked about it earlier. And when I won that, they asked me to come kick. I couldn't make it to practices though. I would literally just show up on Fridays like before the game.

That's crazy.

First time putting on the pads, I had no idea what I was doing. That is, that is kind of how it all came together. But I've been playing football forever. You know, I got an older brother his friends played football with. So it's like I'm from Pittsburgh, so I know football. My family, family's happiness levels. Ran off the Pittsburgh Steelers success rates like my dad that die hard of an NFL fan. So it's like kind of had it in me, but also should have played football more as a kid, I think, personally.

Okay, all right, it worked out.

I hear you.

When you get to run a fake punt, what does that feel like? Because when we run trick plays in like the, the red zone, it's like one of the things that we're looking forward, like, hey, we're going to run this play. Who the hell knows it's about to happen? But it makes you kind of feel like a kid. What's it feel like to go out there, you know, you're working on all week. Fake pun, even like more rare. It's like how many, like one a gold a year maybe, if that.

And you got some iconic McAfee Baby, we're at least two.

I know you have the catastrophic one with my man. Come on now, my man, Colt Anderson. But what is it like to have a fake puck called?

Cole got sacked there pretty quick.

It did not go well for Cole.

That was not how that was supposed to be executed. As you guys know, like, every week there's some fake, like, field goal or fake punt that is like a guarantee. Always have them up, like every day, and then, like, if the situation calls for it, you know, we'll do it. But what I have found is, like, if the team's good, normally not going to be running a lot of fake punts. Like, early in my career, I was explained to. I had an idea for a throw. I had an idea for a throw. I could spin it. I can spin the building. All right, let me, you know, let me get out there. And I was told quickly. So you want us to take Peyton Manning off the field?

This is so good. It's real, though. Just to trick him, just to trick them.

Trust me, I got this. They're not going to see it coming.

Okay, so they're going to give it.

Right back to Peyton. I'm giving it right back to him.

We're trying to give him the ball more.

We're going to take him off the field so you can throw one. It is all in, like, the situations of it all. And I was certainly very understanding of that. But, yeah, I was real excited, man. Anytime I got an opportunity to do something to help the team, like any of those fakes or onside kicks that we got, like, that's a turnover, you know, that's another possession. That's a big deal.

Hell, yeah. Stole a possession.

Huge.

So it's like, if you feel like you contribute more, obviously you're a little bit more proud of it. But those ones that don't work out, boy, deflator travel. I have a question for you. You guys run so much trick shit. You guys get exc for that still every single time.

Oh, yeah, I got pumped for. I was supposed to have one actually on the Monday night game and they brought a nickel blitz off the edge. It completely fucked it up. It almost ended up being a turnover. And when I say we completely fucked it up, I completely fucked it up because I didn't block him off the edge. Sometimes, you know, it's just the trick.

Plays can just get sniffed out by.

A blitz or, you know, when they don't work, they. It makes you feel like an idiot for even trying it. But typically, Andy Reid's Trick plays are pretty on cue and I've actually been a part of a trick play on a field goal twice in my career. Once in a Pro bowl and once against the the Pittsburgh Steelers. And both successful.

Hey yo.

Was it like a tight end run or a pass?

My God. Dustin Colquitt, he was the holder for, for. I think it was Cairo Santos at the time put it, put it down and then flicked it to me. It was kind of like a little shovel pass underneath and I was out the gate the other side. I was a wink.

That's a completion for Colquitt. That's a big deal. Let's make sure we pick up those extra yards.

Yeah, I should have picked up my feet and scored, but. But I, I at least got the first down.

Do you guys draw those up? I. What was it miked up or something where you. Andy Reed said he likes you guys to draw up the plays and then you guys practice them and do the whole thing. Is that still happen?

Yeah, we still do that. We'll do. We'll do some fun stuff on like Thursday practices during the specialist period. We'll meet Pat and a bunch of the officers minds. We'll go over there and just start. We'll go over there and just start, you know, screwing around with some stuff. See what works, see what doesn't. When we take it to coach Reed that's he's got 51% as he always like to tell everybody. So it's like he'll decide whether or not a version of that comes into the to the game plan.

Yeah, you guys gotta pitch. You gotta pitch the out of it. This is a good idea. We got it.

I think we got one here. Yeah, it's definitely. Yeah, it's definitely how. How good an energy you bring to him for sure.

I pitched a few fake field goals and punts and I knew that my presentation was a big part of whether or not we are going to get this through. Yeah, some go, some do not though. Boy, those things cutting room floor, those things are gone. Jason Philly Philly Bananas. That's like one of the most. I mean what historic fakes are for sure.

Yeah. Nobody really knows to this day was it Philly Philly or Philly Special. And I can't even remember. Like all I know is that Nick asked for Philly Philly. It's known as Philly Special. But he's just going to go up Lane. Lane was my cue to snap it and that was the easiest job in the world for me. I'm just running Naked. I was like, man, call this as much as you want, Doug. This is the easiest play in the world.

This is going to be historic play. And I don't have to take any hits to the head.

Yeah, just get a man.

We're winning the Super Bowl.

It's easy.

We tried to take that after you guys ran it. And of course it's me throwing the ball to Pat. And sure enough, there's a cornerback over there. And I'm like, trying to play monkey in the middle with this fucking guy. I could have just walked in the end zone. It's against Tampa Bay the next day. And here I am trying to like, but I want the touchdown pass. And threw it out of bounds like.

An add Smart play. Smart football.

Travis and I were special teamers at one point. We should admit that Jason.

This is why it's so fucked up, because Jason was the kicker. And we're both. We're both still friendly fire.

Little friendly. You know, I'm jealous. I'm jealous that I sucked at it so bad. I was the worst long snapper on the planet. I mean, I was a bad quarterback. Snapper, Short snapper.

But anyways, I like how humble you are. You're like the greatest center of all time. How about Cole Comet? You see Cole Comet?

No, I did not. What's Cole out here doing so long?

Got hurt. Long sniper.

He was doing it.

Yeah. Yeah, Chicago Comet scores. Touchdown. That has to go snap the extra point because he's the backup long snapper.

Dude, how about pandemonium on the sideline when the long snapper gets hurt? Oh, Brent Selleck was our backup snapper. And he. And he right away, just complete fear. Like, we have not practiced this enough at all. He goes out. It's always.

Baby, always the tight end, whatever.

First one, perfect snap. Second one rolled back, complete disaster.

I remember this game. It was like cold and rainy. And though it wasn't a great weather day. Oh, man, Travis, I am. I'm the backup snapper. Me and Noah Gray. Whatever you need. Me and Noah Gray. Noah Gray is our. Our other tight end. And he's definitely. He actually did it in the preseason. Our long snapper got banged up. James Winchester. Shout out to Winchester. But yeah, he definitely. He's capable of it, too. Both field goal and pun. I think, personally, I think the field goal, it's shorter, but it's kind of harder because you got to do it at a. It's. You got to do a low. It's almost like you got to just burn one right, right Right over the, like, grass. Like right over the edge of the grass. Whereas punt, punt, you can just, you can just fire that thing back there and hopefully the punters athletic and all. I have one snap in a preseason game to Dustin Colquitt on punt and I, I yanked that thing to the right about six or seven yards and he went and. Fuck. Grabbed it, came back to the left foot and booted it.

And yeah, he snagged it. He snagged Jason Athletic.

Yeah. Geez Louise.

Never ends.

Shout out to Dusty for making me look good now that I've.

I've faced enough shit for this. Well, no, I haven't. Keep coming, but. But I do want to get to the media career, Pat, because listen, you are an unbelievable punter. Absolutely outstanding. I never thought something would be more impressive of a guy going into media, but what you're doing, man, and what you have been doing is just insane. You're by far the most talented guy I've ever seen.

It's not even close.

All over the place, dude. It's. And you've done it your own way, which is even more remarkable. Did you know that this was something that you were going to get into, like your whole career? When did you know you were going into media and how did that.

I appreciate you saying that because literally, since you guys have tried it, you guys have had massive success. So for you to say all those things that you said about me, I could just go ahead and, you know, flip that right back to YouTube. Absolutely crushing it. Congrats on that nine figure deal.

Thank you for paving the way.

That's good.

Owning it yourself. Okay, boys. That's good shit, boys. Okay, so, like, I think that's the thing. Like, I have a great group of dudes around me, though. Like, the dudes I have around me are so incredibly talented. And we all kind of understand, you know, what is needed to be done each day. Like, we're in here full time, we try to keep up with everything that's happening in the sports world. We have to, you know, kind of know what's worthy of chatting about, what should be talked about also, what's not being talked about that should be talked about. And when we talk about it, let's not take the easy way out and be negative. Like, let's do this in a way where maybe we could celebrate sports a little bit. That's kind of been since the beginning.

How we viewed it, for sure.

Hell yeah.

The guys I have around me are incredibly talented. The work ethic is insane, but also it's cool that, like, people seemingly have been pretty, like, accepting of, like, hey, we're allowed to laugh and crack jokes as opposed to having to tear people down all the time in the sports world.

Yeah.

And we'll talk shit, certainly. And we are dumb and we will get things wrong for sure. And I am. I'm wide open for three hours. Hours every single.

But you'll have fun with it like you did with Lombardi and Max Crosby last week.

Bingo. So we get into, like, we. Because we are just kind of out here having a conversation, trying to have a good time, but we all have the same mindset. We're all very appreciative of what we are doing, and we're all fans of sports, you know, so, like, the more people that get into sports, we're happy about and we want to make sports like a good time. Like, people think of sports like, hey, it's a good time. Because there's a lot of. That's driving everybody like this, seemingly.

For sure.

It's like, sports do this, and they really do.

Yeah.

And it's like, that's what we try to celebrate as much as possible, but we mess it up. But it's a group of dudes I have around me, man. It's. It's a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun every day.

Yeah. You got to get a group, man.

How did it all, like, what was the first conversation of like, hey, we're going to start this show.

Okay. So when I was playing, I got a chance to do the Bob and Tom show, which you guys in Cleveland might know who the Bob and Tom show is. So Bob and Tom maybe not. Okay, sweet.

Shout out to Bob and Tom.

Yeah, Shout out.

They're an Indianapolis staple. They're a morning show. They were syndicated on, like, 170 channels across the country. Radio, 6:00am to 10:00am they had. They owned it, too. So, like, the business they've had. So they did good business in this entire thing. They were in Indianapolis. It was a comedy morning show. Basically, every comedian you've ever heard of has been through there during their tour. Because Indianapolis is pretty centrally located. So from 6 to 10, they're like, nationally syndicated everywhere. And then from 10 to 10:30, it's just like a local hour here in Indianapolis. They negotiated some deal and it was like a Colts Tuesday, which was our off days. Jeff Saturday was the guy that did that for, like, 10 years with them. Jeff Saturday leaves to go to Green Bay. They asked Jeff Saturday, like, hey, who should take your spot in Here, you know, And Jeff Saturday says, like, you gotta get the punter. The punter is the guy to do this or whatever.

There we go. Shout out to Jeff.

So then a couple of the other media people also told him that you should get the pat or whatever. And I think I even said my name wrong at the time. So when Bob and Tom. So when Bob and Tom approached me, and my dad was a truck driver growing up, so obviously he was on the road a lot with radio. So Bob and Tom. He knew about Bob and Tom. So I knew about Bob and Tom whenever I was a kid growing up. So when Bob and Tom approached me to join the show, I was like, I'm not going to be the one that ruins this fucking show. You know, it's been around like 30 years. I don't think I'm the right guy for your show. Like my, the shit that I am is just not, I don't think is the right for your show. And Tom Griswold from Bomb and Tom said you would be the dumbest guy on earth if you did not come on our show or whatever. And I was like, okay, I'll come do the show. So I get in there first week, week, first 30 minutes. I've never felt like more comfortable.

Like I was just. They were talking about news, they were talking about sports, and it was like they had three comedians in there. Bob Kavoyan's like one of the quickest smart asses on earth. He's there and it was just like I almost felt like alive in there for like 30, 30 minutes or whatever. And then the next week when they're live from 6 to 10 on the national audience, Tom Griswold was like, hey, next week, anytime you want to come in, come in. So I went in there 6am I was like, I'm coming in here 6am So I did like four hours with him in the morning. And it was like I fell in love with it. Like, I really enjoyed the energy, the vibe, the way they set up the show, the structure of the show. And it was at that moment where I was like, this could be, this could be something I kind of get into. You know, then when I'll. While I'm still punting, I had a stand up tour I did around the Midwest, I did some other shows here in Indianapolis. I had a podcast, I had a merch store while I was playing.

So it was like I was kind of doing the next step while I was still punting and I was finding like fulfillment in all this stuff. Away from punting after the offense failed. You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like, I was having a good time with the charity stuff I was doing. I was having a good time with the comedy stuff. I was having a good time with the show, and it was like, I need to fully focus on one of these because there's only 32 jobs in the NFL. You got to have respect for that. But then also, this is so much more fun. And I'd taken care of everybody financially that I thought I had to take care of with my NFL money. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna try to chase fulfillment here. And then it's become all this, and it's so stupid. I'm so lucky, so thankful, and I have a blast. I'm literally just trying to enjoy it all.

It's such a genuine way to get into your next career, though. Like, you. You. I. And I can't stress this enough for the guys in the NFL that are looking for something outside of football. You have to do it while you're still playing. Use those off seasons and the little connections that you make throughout your career to be able to set yourself up. And it's so cool that you're. You. You started doing that. You found it, and then you just took off.

Off.

Come on.

You took off. Did it. Did it actually make it easier for you to kind of hang it up or. Like, you. You could probably have played as long as you wanted to, right? I mean. Yeah.

Package should be out there kicking balls.

I played that soccer tournament last summer.

Yeah.

I read my hip flexor kicking, so I don't think I could still. Hey, Jason.

That's a rough one.

You were balling, though.

When I retired, you were ball.

No, I'm saying you were balling on that in the seven. In the. What was it, 707? What was that league?

Yes. You.

You know.

Okay. You saw it.

You saw this? I saw the crosses. I saw. Yes. I was elected, dude. Are you kidding me?

Carry North Carolina for, like, four weeks. We were down there. I did not know what I was signing up for. And then our team got, like, good. Our team started, like, bonding. Our team started having chance. I was like. I fell in love with it, but then. Yeah, just ripped my. I mean, I had a pool of blood in my thigh for, like, three months.

That's when I felt old, you know?

That's when I felt real, real old. But, yeah, definitely, I think, you know, whenever guys retire and, you know, the stats, obviously, you guys both. About the 80% fall into bankruptcy after five years. Professional athletes and everything like that. And I always wondered why, like, when the NFL PA would come in, they always talk to us about, like, saving money and yada, yada, yada. And I actually asked a couple times, like, how come there's no ideas, like, for everybody to make more money when they retire? Like, why can't we hear more? Like, hey, your story matters. Money. Like, hey, speaking is maybe something you should get into. Tell your story. Everybody who makes the NFL has a story.

Everybody, Everybody.

Like, no matter what story is, that success story can pivot you into a new profession later. I was wondering why that was never talked about. So I think, like, fully focusing to this. And I retired very early, and everybody said. And a lot of the people said I was dumb. Yeah. A lot of people said I was an idiot when I retired. Six million bucks on the table, all that. Yada, yada, yada. So there was also, like, did it make it easier to hang it up after hearing that? Maybe not. But it also made me get to a mental point that was like, I'm making it.

I'm gonna prove all these motherfuckers wrong. Yeah.

Backs against the wall, boys. Yeah.

These people are not gonna be right. Yeah, that is not gonna happen.

Yeah.

I think having a focus. Having something to focus on, enjoying what you're doing and still having, like, the locker room, because I got the boys here, you know?

Yeah, it is.

It certainly helped a lot. It certainly helped a lot. I think.

I love it, man.

You've talked about your boys all. And one of the things that has just been so fucking awesome about the way you've done it is you have not changed who you are or how you do it. I still remember seeing you down in the Pro Bowl. What was that? Arizona, maybe. Or maybe it was like, yeah, you're the exact same guy. No matter when you are, whether you're on TV, off, like, wherever you're at, you are Pat McAfee, and you've brought all your boys with you. You've done it your own way. You've created your own path.

He's a real one.

The way your brain works is. I don't even understand it, to be honest with you, man. It's like always just the neurons work. The only thing that works better than your leg is a punter, is those neur you got up there.

They're freaking clicking at all times, brother.

It's impressive.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

To see where it's gotten you now. ESPN college game day. I don't know, man. Is this. Did you envision it getting to this? Are you happy with where it's at right now?

Were you always a college game day? Like, kind of like, were you always excited on a college game? I mean, you had a pretty good college experience over there in West Virginia.

No.

Was it always?

We had good times in Morgantown. We had good times.

We got. We gotta talk a little bit about that. We know some guys, we know some real dogs that were over there in West V. Man, that was my first alcoholic drink.

Was in Morgantown at a 7 on 7 tournament.

I think that's a lot of people's stories.

We went down to the gas station and got mad dog 2020 orange jubilees.

Those mad dog 2020s used to be a real problem.

Yeah.

Because the color. I think everybody thought they were softer. They were not.

No, they were not.

They were not. No.

They were throwing a hundo, you know, they were in. When you talk about college game day, I. I think just like everybody else in the NFL, like, we watch college game day every Saturday to keep up with. It's in every NFL building, you know, And I think in college, we watched it every single Saturday. So I think I've always been a college game day fan. You know, come from Pittsburgh, though, which is an NFL town, which is, you know, interesting. So whenever college game day becomes an opportunity, it was never a show, like, I thought to myself, like, I could be on.

Yeah.

But then whenever you're presented with opportunity to be on, like one of the top two institutions in the history of sports media, and it's football and it's wrestling, you know, in front of a live audience.

Yes.

So. And obviously I am so incredibly lucky to have a relationship with the wwe, too. Growing up, how big of a fan I was of wrestling and wwf.

Yes, Everything.

It is so it's like football and wrestling and it's one of the greatest shows in the history of shows. And you're like, there's only so many spots so massive honor to even be asked to do this. It's like, all right, I'm going in. I'm going go in. And I've been baptized by college football in this entire thing. It is electric, bro. I know you're from Cleveland, I'm from Pittsburgh. These college towns, especially down there in the South. I mean, out in Oregon, bananas, Berkeley, crazy. These people in the south are praying to the it's God, it's Jesus Christ. And it is than it is the team. You know, it's like, it's Crazy. It's been an honor, dude. It has been so much fun. So I try to have a blast everywhere I go because how committed in like, that is a part of college ball. Like all the pageantry and the tradition and loyalty. So I'm lucky to do that, man. I really am. And to say, did I know it was going to go like this? No, bro, I had no idea. I had no clue. I was hoping just to be able to survive and pay my guys and like, we just have fun, go to work together, do our thing.

Oh, yeah.

But then, like, things just kind of happen.

I remember. I remember the day you went door to door. Come on. Handed out some envelopes, man. You kidding me? That's a real one right there, man.

The backpacks to the boys.

The backpacks. My bad.

Yeah, those still happen. They do it in a different way that's much easier to tax, you know, because. Yeah, I guess backpacks of 100,000 bucks is not the easiest way to.

It's not the best tracking and then.

To broadcast it too. So every.

Whatever happened, we saw a backpack. Was there actually cash in that? No, no. Anything in there?

How much did he say?

He said it was a bit. There's nothing in there.

Yeah. Fake money.

What's the better atmosphere? College football or NFL. And I guess it's different depending on which college and which NFL. But just in general, you've been a part of both. I don't.

Kansas City seems pretty insane. Arrowhead seems crazy, right? I mean, that is crazy.

Arrowhead.

They got chants and too, right? That they do throughout the entire game.

Oh, yeah.

In the home of the. And when you're at an away place and you hear that, you guys got to get pumped about.

Oh, yeah, we're here, we're here. That whole. The end. I just know the away team or the home team hates that.

That is one thing I'm jealous of soccer stadiums is those. Those old school chants, those call and react chants.

Yes.

You don't have those.

Every college has. Has.

Those are electric.

All right, so that can. That keeps the stadiums like throughout. Like, you know, there's a dead period in NFL games maybe. Yeah, it's like the college ones, there's no dead period because there's like give and take calls back and forth. Like when I do all that on game day, it's like that's what they're doing in the stadium and I. Yeah. You know, I'm very lucky to learn that I.

So like, it was so electric out in Eugene, Oregon this weekend. You had me off my couch singing with you, dog. That everybody is in the group chat. Every group chat. I'm a part of, like, bro, Pat McAfee's the best thing to happen to college football. Everybody's saying it, dude, you had everybody livid and ready to rock and roll for that Oregon Ohio State game, man.

Tell everybody I said thank you for the kind remarks.

And the.

The thing about it is I'm learning that from, like, walking around the town the day before. So I try to go, like, experience, like, their food spot. Like, what's our food spots that they talk about. Because every authentic man.

Hell yeah. Yeah.

So I'm trying to tell my own story. Like, when I go experience, I go see some spots. I'll go see the team facility, and I'll try to ask people at all these places. I'm like, hey, what's the. What are we. What's the. You know, what are we. What are we saying out here? And I'll get, like, an answer from somebody, and they'll be like, you say go. And then they'll say, docs, I'm like, okay, they'll go. And they're like. They'll go with it. I'm like, thank God, because there. There has been one time. It was for the wwe. I do, like, commercial break. I do. I cut a promo and commercial breaks in these arenas, and I try to do the same thing. I try to get the local thing. I was misled.

I was misled.

I was told. I was told that the crowd was going to go. They did not go. So the first time. The first time when that crowd responds to me in the morning for game day and I hear it back, I'm like, thank. I was not lied to. That is as good news. But Eugene showed up in a big way. Berkeley showed up in a big way. Obviously, Alabama, those places, it's. I'm having a time in my life, man, and I'm learning so much about all these schools, and everybody's cool.

Yeah, you look like it. And you look like, dude, you. You play to a crowd, great. But it doesn't look like it's like being done in any. Like, you just are genuinely loving to be there, and it's awesome to see, man. It's awesome.

Well, that's, like, a part of it, you know, like, that's a part of college ball is like, the fans.

Yeah.

That's the beauty that you're on site, that you get. Let's take advantage of it. And you're. I mean, you maximize it, brother. It is awesome. To see. What were you wearing?

You were on a Fred Flintstone thing during pics the other night.

Dude, I don't know what I'm doing.

Yeah. Jason.

Wilma. That's awesome.

That's awesome. You enjoying it? You're crushing it.

I'm having fun. I'm having fun. I'm learning. I do want to, like, dude, I would love to talk to you when we even got more time about how you prepare. That's the one thing that's the craziest is I've never watched this much football. Like, when you play, hey, you watch your own team and you get really hyper focused on the players you're playing and what you're doing for the game. Now it's like, dude, I gotta watch, like, all this stuff. Like, everybody's just watching all these games and it's. It's hard. And for you, you're doing all of this. Like, it is even more impressive.

Yeah, you're. You're in every fucking sport, dude. I don't know how your mind does this, dude. I don't know how. It's.

The neurons. The neurons are operating on a different level, man.

So here's how. If I see it. If I see it normally, it's going to stay there.

All right, that's dope.

But I have to see it, though. So, like. So like the night before college game day. Yeah, I'm running through everything. I'm running through every team. I'm running through every player. I got Tone Diggs, one of my guys, he writes up a full, like, preview of what the weekend will be like. But I have to see it, you know? So once I see it, though, it's in there.

It's in there.

So that takes up some time. It's like act for you, acting. Travis, what were you. Did you memorize how you memorize those lines and everything like that?

I mean, yeah, the lines are. You just got. You gotta. I was fortunate enough to have an acting coach, and you just keep shooting the lines over and over and over again until you get comfortable with it, and then you'll finally find out and feel out what the scene actually is. At least that's what. That's what my learning experience was for. The lines and everything in acting, and then you can kind of riff.

How'd you do it?

You crush it, I think. Jason. Jason didn't tell me I sucked. So.

So far, so good. So far so good.

Let's go, dude. Yeah, baby.

This is fun as hell.

Congratulations, dude. I don't know how often you know, people just celebrate right in your face on your show. I apologize, but that's on me completely. That's awesome though, dude. I think about some of the shit you're doing right now and like the pictures, you know, my wife, massive fan of your lady. So I, I get, I get updates on all this. Here's having dinner with Wolverine and Deadpool. You know, it's like, do you ever get, do you ever. Like, at this point you still understand, right?

You still, at this point, at this point, it's just, it, you can't fathom what's going on, Sue. It's just like a dream. You're just like, oh, yeah, no. You're not surprised by like the next thing that comes in or comes into your life that walks into the door? Yeah, it's crazy. It's insane. I don't even, I don't know how to live this silly ass life, man. But I am, I'm definitely fortunate for it for sure.

You've earned it.

You've earned.

Forget it. That's awesome, dude.

We're going to wrap up this segment with we got to ask. You don't have to answer. We prefer you answer. But obviously this is up to you. Pat, first question you. We got to ask. Nick Sirianni brings up a story about you all the time, drunk and swimming in a canal. He brings it up during the off season portion where everybody's going away and he's talking about, don't get, don't be too crazy when you're away from the facilities. Could you maybe share that story with all the 92 percenters?

Well, I hope Nick Sirianni, Coach Sirianni, was a honorable lad and said that. That's all alleged.

Okay.

I was certainly found rather intoxicated very early in the morning, shirtless and wet. Late in October. It was cold. It was a cold morning. And in the police report, they pieced together that I had probably been swimming in a canal nearby. Big thanks to those cops. They got me off the streets that morning when I was certainly intoxicated, publicly. Got $140 fine for that. Do some community service. And I still haven't got it cleared that we don't know if I was in a canal. And by we, I mean the police or me. That was.

Nobody has proof.

We've learned from that. We've moved along. Yeah, I appreciate Coach Sirianni saying, don't be that guy and me being that guy because you should have seen how I felt in jail. I am not a good enough punter. To be sitting in jail right now.

No way.

I thought it was over. I thought it was over.

I thought it was over.

Who is. Who's the bigger legend in West Virginia? You or Owen Schmidt?

Owen Schmidt, dude, that guy could be governor anytime he wanted to be. Dude.

It's insane, ain't it? Dude, he's a, you know, he's a truck driver. He's a. Worked for UPS now.

Yeah, I'll FaceTime and he'll be, you know, at work and then he'll introduce me to a couple of the boys. I'll get a chance to chat with him. I got a chance to see him a few weeks ago whenever we went to Morgantown to do our show before West Virginia took on Penn State, maybe do a call in that game. West G lost Penn State, but there was a two hour delay. So there was two hour delay. Wasn't a real game. Right. You know, it shouldn't even count in this entire thing. But Owen was there. He was one of the guests. He drove up from Greenbrier area multiple hours. I did not know he had to drive that far. So he held that over my head. OB came in from Alabama, I gave. I got Pat White on a plane.

How about it, baby?

So I got Pat White on a plane to come out, you know, flew up to Morgantown.

We're going to make sure to drive.

So he held that over my head. Obviously, as soon as Owen gets in front of that crowd, they pay their respects. Man, Owen Schmidt is like the living embodiment of what a West Virginia mountaineer should be. And I've never seen a human be able to delete beers suppressed.

Very impressive, wasn't it? His nickname was that. Is this true? And this is the story I remember his nickname was Runaway Beer Truck. Is that accurate?

Yeah, it was. It was probably the most perfect nickname ever given to anybody in the history.

Literally. You want to talk about run right through a brick wall, man, that guy would do it all.

He would break helmets, Travis.

He would break face on his face, on his face.

And then. Yeah, yeah, he was psycho.

We got to talk about 2008, UC versus West Virginia. I know you remember this one. I said a story earlier about alcohol being my first. My first drink ever being in Morgantown. I also had the first beer poured on me in a football uniform in the corner of the end zone after overtime, which you freaking solidified with. How long was that kick? That was a long one that you said.

Oh, I forget. I forgot that. That was like Biggie's championship type game.

Yeah, it was huge. There was a lot on the line. Yeah.

Yeah.

We won an overtime. Field goal at the end of regulation to set it to overtime.

And an onside kick and an on.

Forgot about that.

It's all coming back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I am. You remember our fans were sprinting back in.

They left. They went into the hills. They went to the hills. Then they came back with cans. I don't know how they got them in the stadium.

They running in. I do remember that. Yeah, I do remember that. And we lost. What? We got a roughing the passer.

I think it was something like that. Late. There was a penalty. And then we. Kazima Lee caught one in the corner of the end zone.

Yeah. Our tight end.

And I just remember beers being rained down upon us. It was.

Yeah. Yeah, Those people were pretty intoxicated. Yeah, they were maybe in the canal.

They were up and down.

Hey, that Cincinnati West Virginia run was cool when you guys had Brian Kelly's head.

Yeah, you guys started it, right? Was it? You guys are Louisville. It felt like it was Louisville. Then you guys took it from Louisville. Then we took it for a little bit. There was like a weird run there where the Big east actually had some really good teams.

Okay. If I recall here, new Big east happened. I like year. I don't know if it was the year I got there. 2005 is when I graduated high school. So when I get there, I think it was new Big East. Louisville just came to the Big East. Remember, they were supposed to run Big East, I think.

Yeah.

They.

Brian Braum. And who was the running back that they had? That was a beast. I can't remember his name.

Anyway.

Bush. Yes. Michael.

Dog.

Absolute Dog. And then Harry, I think, was over there, too. Like, they had. They had a great team. We triple overtime. I think my freshman year. We beat him. I think so. It was like we had it then I think Louisville took it.

Yeah.

And then you.

Pittsburgh was pretty good in there, too. They had old Fitzy. Fitzy and Lashan McCoy.

They were never the front team, though. They were good.

I don't know. I might have just been a Shady fan. I don't know.

Shady. Oh, they did win one year. I think you're right. When Shady was there, they might have won one year, too. No, they lost. They lost at the end of it.

Talk about ball security.

Yeah.

Would show up in your stadium like this and shake the out of every human in there.

So crazy.

It was awesome to watch. Big east was real deal.

It was. It was a fun. It was A fun conference there. Shout out to the old Big East. All right.

Yukon even didn't succeed.

Suck.

No excuse.

Yukon.

They. They.

They used to throw.

They were making some runs.

They were good at basketball. They're holding down basketball. They're holding it down. They beat us. I can't talk. Yeah, we're about third way through the NFL season. Who's your early super bowl pick, Pat?

Chiefs are still the Chiefs, brother.

All right. There we go.

All right, now. And that is. That is not just because he's sitting here and I'm such a massive. And I'm just a believer in, like, greatness. I legitimately am. I believe that there's, like, levels to this. And for 20 some years, we saw the New England Patriots. For what reason?

Well, they just were.

Well, they just the. In the air. In the air. In the ball. Yeah, in the airs. In the ball. And I was. Against the Colts. We couldn't.

Videotaping coaches.

Yeah. Spy gators. All this gets thrown at one thing, and that's greatness. Normally, that's what it comes down. So I think when push comes to shove, I think. I think these dudes figure it out. Like, I. I just am a firm believer. Last year, you know, there was a little time, and I don't want to bring up bad, bad times to the new Kansas Chiefs, but the boys seemingly stunk for a bit. It was a few weeks.

It was. It was. It was a rough. It was a rough road. It got a little treacherous.

Year I ever beat the Chiefs. And Henry, that was the only time we ever got it done. And you still won the Super Bowl.

That's what I'm saying. There was a time everybody thought they were done.

They're not even making the playoffs. It's over. Over.

Hey, everybody but me, I want.

Hey.

Okay.

I was standing unwavering. I was standing on this microphone, and I said, the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I don't know what everybody's talking about. Pat had a flu one day. It was windy the other day, I just saw. I just believed. And I just think that that's the case. And then I watched that quarterback show or whatever the hell it is.

Oh, yeah, on Netflix.

Yeah.

And I realized that Patrick was, like, one of the coolest dudes of all time.

They don't make him any better, man. They don't make him any better, dude.

House and beers talking, working his dick off, fighting through injury, and then making every play that they don't make. There's. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that.

That doesn't that doesn't. Yeah. So I believe in the Chiefs personally. That's what I. That's why I believe in the Chiefs.

I love it. Even. Even with a team like the jets getting a guy like Devonte Adams today.

Big deal.

Fives are good, too.

He popped his head in. I don't know if you saw it. Devonte popped his head into our conversation with Aaron Rodriguez.

Yeah, I did not know. I did not.

He came in with a football in hand, turns it, spins the ball. Hello, devonte.

Good to see you. Long time no see.

They are. They seem to be ready to go. I mean, they just. They just lost to the Bills less than like 14 hours before that. And jets fans are pumped. They're very, very excited about the future, and I can see why. Devontae's a dog.

He's a dog.

Devonte, Garrett Wilson, they got some in the offense looked a lot better, especially in the first half last this past week, so. Or yesterday.

They're running it, Jason.

Either way. I know. How about that? Let's hand the ball off. Get this guy Breeze hall involved. Who's that? Bruce Hall. Pretty good. It's pretty good.

Also. Let's do more push pushes. Let's get these centers.

Let's compile some more vertebrae.

Did you about it on this show a lot or no? I don't know if I saw it. About your body just getting demolished.

Bush just getting absolutely. Just full, like you said, like an accordion. He's just getting folded every single time. It's hilarious. I laugh at it at this point.

I never used to think about.

We were hyping it up, too. We were so loud. Like tush bush. Keep doing it.

We just keep doing it.

And Jason has to be supportive.

Yeah, he has to.

I didn't really talk too much. And then Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson let the cat out of the bag. He used to say that every time he would get called in the huddle. I just like my life.

That's awesome. But you literally publicly had to support it because it was working and it was like your thing. It was like.

And listen, I hated it. But let's. Let's. You know, what if it gets the first down, keeps the strap, converts. It's. I mean, it's a free. You're avoiding a turnover. It's insane. Yeah, I agree.

That's football.

I'll take a compressed vertebrae for that. Bring it home, Pat.

Who's your. Who's your two early MVP right now?

Oh, okay. So do you believe that somebody other than a quarterback can win the mvp.

I think it's going to take a lot.

It'll be hard. Yeah. Depends on.

It's going to take like something like, like what this Boise State kid is doing at running back.

Yeah.

Holy. It's going to take something like that, that to like take the attention away from a quarterback getting it.

I think he's ahead of Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders had like 2600 rush schedule, six games in.

He's already got 1200 and like 17 touchdowns. The shit's ridiculous.

And to be clear, Jente, we think it's incredibly admirable and cool that you're still at Boise State because he led the country in yards, I think last year too. I assume there was big offers.

Yeah. For him to go, but nil money. Oh yeah.

I assume there was big offers to get him out of Boise State. He's still in Boise. Running on that Smurf turf.

I respect.

He's like something I, he blends in that blue turf, man.

Dude, he never stops running either. He's very impressive. But if we stick in a running back could potentially win an award that normally goes to quarterback like Derrick Henry right now. Oh yeah, he's scoring touchdowns just like non stop.

It's just, just when they, just when they think just because the Titans got rid of him, everyone's like, oh, he's not the same player. Just running, just running. 22 mile, 21 miles an hour. 22 miles per hour. Getting tickets in this, in a school zone, you kidding me?

He's this tall.

He's unbelievable, man.

I'll admit, I'm an idiot. I, I, when they made that pick, I'm like, dude, he's a shock. They're going to put him in shock. And how's this going to work with Lamar? And I was like, oh, yeah, no, he's just bigger and faster and stronger than everybody. Let's just get those guys on our team. Let's just let that guy go north and south. Good luck tackling that.

And that's hardball football too.

It is.

He will.

And then they got Ricard as a fullback too. It's like he's 280 or whatever. Former D end. It's like, I don't understand how they're allowed to do that trade. I don't know how that was. That seems to be unfair.

Well, good job, Harbaugh. I hope he wins. I would, I would be very much as obviously offensive lineman, but King Henry, I don't know, man. That guy's just, he's just a dog.

He is let's get an offensive lineman award.

Yeah, we. That's, like, against the religion O line to get an award, but it's like. It's gotta be, like a group award. They got the four. Tough offensive line. Penny Sewell is fun to watch now. See how they get hook and lateral. Almost had a touchdown. Had a called back.

Dude, he balanced himself.

Yeah.

How is he three?

What? He's got to be at least 350. He's. He's up there. He's a big man. Big man. Hey, my elbow would explode.

Trav, why is everybody so big, strong, and fast these days?

I don't know, man. I don't get it. I don't get it. Where they find these people at?

How.

Sorry you.

6, 5, 6, 4, and 7, 8. If you ask the fucking combine, they. They fucking cut a quarter of a. Like, can you just give me the quarter? Just give me 8 of an inch.

Just.

Can I get that 8 and be 6, 5, or do I got to be 6, 4, and 7, 8?

They push it down, too.

They push it down. They got it twice. They're like six, five. Seems to. Seems too tall for you. I think you need. We need to do this again.

I just talked about these people being too big and too fast and too athletic, and I'm talking to a dipshit here at 6 foot 5, moving around, like, at the age of, like, 50, you know what I mean? I mean, Travis, you're a freak show, brother.

Having fun out there, Pat?

We're getting close to getting out. Is there anything that we haven't hit that you want to talk about? Anything that, like. I don't know, man.

Yeah. You got anything fun coming up that people don't know about yet?

No, dude, there's. There's way too much of me. This show ending quicker is better. Aside from that, I would like to let you guys know I appreciate the hell out of the invite on the program.

Program here.

I'm a massive fan of you guys, and what you're doing right now with media is a big deal, and I hope you get a chance to kind of take it in and enjoy it all. You guys are legends. And Travis, the fact that you're still able to do all this while still playing, I know it's not easy to balance you keeping the main thing. The main thing and still being able to do all this. Incredibly impressive. And Jason, your big ass with your untied Tims just dropped into this media world and taken over your acting abilities in a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial. And then espn NFL Monday night commercial. I mean, let's go, boys.

Let's go crushing it. Great time to be alive.

I appreciate you go you both so much.

Well, the honors all ours, Pat. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for paving the way, changing the game. It's incredible to watch your career up to this point. Can't wait to keep watching, keep being you.

Oh, yeah.

Can't wait to see you in freaking Austin, Texas this week. College game day intern Brandon. Big Austin, Texas guy. Big, big, big Texas fan down here. Brandon, what are the chance, brother?

Don't leave me astray.

Don't leave me.

Keep making sports fun, brother. I love watching you, man. Love watching you. Let's. And I can't wait to join you on the show sometime soon.

Yeah, don't feel any. Both of you.

Okay.

There is a open invite for any. Kelsey, mama.

I'm. I want to get to the Thunderdome and I'm pissed I haven't been there yet, man. Dog, that looks like.

Hey, listen, if you make it out to Indianapolis, ever would love to have you here in the Thunderdome. Have a good old time. But either anytime you both want to come on the program, open invite, whenever the hell, I would be grateful and thankful just like I am that I'm here. And you guys, you're the best man.

You're the greatest brother.

Pat. Thanks so much, brother.

All right now, Pat McAfee, ladies and gentlemen. You're the greatest dog.

Thank you so much to Pat McAfee for coming on. I can't tell you how electric that was.

That's.

That's one of the ones we've been waiting for.

We've been waiting to get them.

We finally got. Thank goodness.

And that he's the busiest dude in the world. Thank you, brother, for. For giving us your time, man. We love that dude, man. He's. He's changing sports for the good man. He's making sports fun as similar to how I was talking to you about being a part of ESPN and everything. McAfee's doing it at a whole nother level, man, on all aspects. The college, world wrestling, you name it, man. All of sports is making it better, man. Thank. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on, brother.

He's changing the world, but he's still staying true to that. Yinzer. That wraps up another episode of New Heights.

Thank you.

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