Transcript of “I’ve… Been Through” (w/ Ariana Grande)

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I've been smiling and beaming all day. I woke up with a giggle.

Oh, my God.

I leapt out of bed, and then I looked at myself in the mirror, and then I immediately got sad because I think I'm actually developing a stye.

Blufferitis. No, if you develop a stye, you just nip it in the bud and you put rice in a sock, you put in the microwave for 30 seconds, and then you just warm complex.

Is that the cure? Mm-hmm. All right, good. I was all nervous today because I literally was so excited for this. I got a facial yesterday. I got a facial for the episode. Oh, fun. I went to the Equinox spa and hotel. I love. Which is Hudson Yards, really the best area of New York. Remember when I was looking for an apartment in Hudson Yards?

I don't think I gave you any guff for it. I was like, If that's where Matt is happy, Matt belongs at the theme park of New York This is what I wanted to tell you.

Yeah, go.

How do you feel about Rockefeller Center making a real play at being the only real technical zoned theme park in New York? Because that's what they're trying to do.

As the Prince of Rockefeller Center, I actually have to say, we actually are the Royal Court of Rockefeller Center, if you think about it.

We're the gestures in the court.

As a representative of the zone, I couldn't be prouder of my sisters who are making that place a theme park.

They really are doing it.

Very happy about it.

It's ticketed ride. You got to strap on a seat belt.

I've gone to the top of the Rockefeller Center, and you go on the beam and it spins around. It's very thrilling. You would love it, I think.

Not yet, though. Is that my cue? No, not yet. Never mind.

Don't worry.

We'll get into it. If you just heard the voice.

What? I'm so sorry. No, come on. I'm so sorry.

I just need you to stay...

Dave, you got it? How would you like me? This way? No, Bowen, you're actually leaning to your right, which I know you feel natural. Can we go I'm going to touch to our left feet. Yeah. Yes, both of us. Sorry to break your flow, guys. I'm so sorry. Just the tiniest- I'm getting a lot. What do you want me to do?

I just need you to go to your- Yes, of course.

Thank you so much. Perfect.

No problem. No, it's okay. I'm really glad it's that and not what I thought it was. What was it? I thought she was coming in like, Guys, there's a fire. We got to get out of here. Come on.

Use all this.

Stance only. That's where my mind codes.

She came in and I was like, something's happening. She had the energy of like, it's an emergency.

Well, yeah, that was emergency energy.

The way the hair moved was urgent. Gorgeous.

It was stunning. Gorgeous and scary.

Excited and scared.

Here we go.

No, we're back. We're using all of that.

We're using all.

All of it is being used, and I won't.

Even the part where I got a little snippy, I was like, I'm getting a lot. What do you want to do?

No, it's honestly like, that's authenticity, Sure. That's why people love Lost Culture, with Matt Rodgers and Bowen Young, because this is a real ass show.

Oh, yeah.

I agree. That was a real moment. Here's what I really want to say. You've said the theme park thing. Do you know how I spent my morning? I've been thinking about the wicked theme park ride all day. I've seen the film, and I want to unveil what I think the experience of the theme park ride at an-Epic Universe.Epic Universe. Put it in between. There's a spot for it. You put it in between Super Nintendo World and the Dark Universe. I feel like that's a perfect meeting for Wicked. It's Emerald City/Oz, whatever they want to do. I can't wait to pitch to our guests my idea for the theme park ride, the story of it. Because I know we're with one of the true girlies.

We're with one of the true Floridian girlies. Let's bring her in.

Talk about your pal.

She literally saved my life. I can't even look at you. I fucking love you. She's the legend. She's playing Galinda in Wicked part one, maybe part two. She's playing Glinda.

You'll have to wait to see what happens at the end of act one. Does the character die?

Who knows? Is there a death?

Imagine the twist of they killed Glinda. Oh, my God.

They really took a swing. Fuck. That sucks.

We loved her performance in the first.

I know. If the Munchkins in Munchkin land.

It's like a dark wicked, like the dark night. Our guest is a singular talent, an icon. I mean, I am a fan of I've always been a fan. This is surreal. I can't believe she's here. I mean, Eternal Sunshine, one of the albums of the year. To say nothing of everything else she's ever put out. I mean, I can't believe this is happening. It's the film of the Year Wicked. And this guest you're about to welcome into your ears is the one, the fucking only Ariana Grande.

Thank you.

That's my cue. I've been tempted to jump in every third sentence. That's the vibe. I'm so sorry. I know, but it's just been so tempting.

We really work our guests up, and then they chime in, and then they're ready to go. Okay, so pitch-Hi.

Hi. Thank you for having me.

This is a blessing in a half and three quarters. Is this weird? No. Am I weird? Can we start over? No, this is perfection. Okay. Do you want to know the Wicked Theme Park ride? Tell me now. Because you want this to happen.

Of course I do, and I have ideas as well.

Okay, so let's collab. I think you go to… It's not Shiz, it's the Emerald City. The vibe is like, Galinda Live today is going to address everyone, the Aussians. It's like we're all going… You're already taken away. Okay, I'm not even thinking about when we're going to have to shoot that. Oh, God. Tomorrow. We can figure it out.

I think about that sometimes.

Yeah. Shooting the theme park B-roll.

Yeah. Shooting Hermione being like, Don't forget to wear your seatbelts. You know, like that vibe.

Sometimes I feel like, are they still doing that? Are they going to go out to D.

Radcliffe and the crew? I think they're on contract. They're locked into something. Can you do your Hermione impression? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Ron's been splinched. That?

Been splinched? Harry, Ron. Ron's been splinched. Oh my God, there is something in the nose. Ron, Ron. There is. What is that? No, you can't. I I love the vocal fray so much.

It's so good. The vocal what?

The vocal fray.

The fray. Oh, my God.

I love it so much.

Yeah. Okay, so today, Glenda is addressing.

Today, Glenda Live. It's you and then we as the guests coming in are going to see the speech, and then something is happening. So this takes place between Wicked One and Two.

Okay.

So in that area.

Oh, that's fun.

We believe that Alphaba is a folk. There's signs that are like, Get the witch. You know what I mean? And then we get in the ride, and I don't know the rest of this, but that's the set up. You are like, get ready to speak. And then there's weather. There's weather.

More of all.

Seats start to move. We think it's Elphaba, We know it's more of all.

Michelle Yoh going. Yes.

Listen. Yes.

Don't let her get her way.

If you want to. That's the best shot in the whole thing.

When she turns. When she turns and the monkeys go.

Oh, my God. Fuck. It's She's the best shot of any movie I've ever seen in my life. She's so hot. She's so beautiful and regal and powerful.

When she goes, Wicked witch.

Yes. What a choice to get quiet.

Wicked Bitch.

Oh, please.

I love Michelle. She's brilliant. I've seen it. I DMed you. I'm blown away by the movie. It's just like, you guys, just to leave the fake world of the theme park right now, we'll figure it out. Tktk theme park ride, the very real film is so brilliant. You know it. You know it.

You knew.

Wicked is a film about Fanny. It is.

He's a gay boy. He's a gay boy.

Who wants to make it big in the world, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what the film is.

He knows that the media landscape of Oz is not ready for a faff like him.

Very homophobic city.

A homophobic country.

I have the best video in the world of you rehearsing at Shiz. It's been in my draps for two years. Post. Of him, his little pink cap over your hair because we weren't ready to film yet with your little clips in. He's half in wardrobe, half in some cute bow and thing. He's just like, What did he say? Wait, what did madame Mourad say? Alpha wasn't gay. All right, fine. I'm gay. Cheers. Cheers. I'm gay. But I don't think that it'd be the most interesting thing about me. Yeah, because it threatened to be. I've watched it 300 times.

Honestly. How How do you feel about the original person who read for Fanny at the table read for Wicked was Sutton Foster. What? Have I desecrated Sutton's name? Wait, no. What are you talking about? In the original table read for Wicked before any of the shows, whatever, any of the tryouts.

That was Sutton Foster?

They had Adina and they had Kristen, but then they had Sutton Foster.

As Fanny? As Fanny. Years ago? That is the most important thing I've ever heard. It's crazy. That is so spectacular.

Circa 2001 or whatever.

How did I not I didn't know this.

No, I didn't know this either until people were sending to me.

Oh, my God. Isn't that crazy? She's going to be so floored and proud. No way. She's going, Absolutely.

Can we talk about his brilliance in this film? I mean, he lights up the screen like he lights up my life. Every time you come on the screen, I'm like, In a word?

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Just so incredibly brilliant. I also just want a string out of everything you said because I really do. I want a string out. Let's bring string outs back.

I love string Can we string out today?

I want to string out. Let's go in of everything he said on that set. I got to see last night because Cynthia and I went to go do watch along and make commentary thing. Oh, fun. But while we were there, they showed us deleted scenes. I got to see I've been through.

Oh, my God. Wait, they kept, I've been through.

I've heard about I've been through. Talk about that so everyone knows.

So they did, spoiler alert, they did cut the scene where Glinda meets Fanny and Shenzhen again.

But it's very cute and you will get to see it. Oh, really? You will get see it. It's coming out.

Because I want to see it. That was my one notice. I was like, Well, who are they?

Who are these two?

We just made it all up. I love it. John was like, All right, you guys meet here and maybe you do a little… We were like, Perfect, we'll do it. We did the weird dance thing, whatever it was.

We did the weird dance thing, and then I… I was like, Oh, how are you guys really? Yeah. Ari, as Glenda goes, How are you? It's been so long. How are you guys really? And then I, for some reason, made the choice to go, I've been through.

And we said, I've been through for two years after that.

I've been through. And then the other phrase was, I have had scandal. I have had scandal.

I have had scandal.

I have had scandal. I have had scandal.

Title it up. I have had scandal.

I have had I've been through. I've...

I've been through is title of app.

I've... I've been through.

Which we all have. I love I've been through.

I've been through is...

Not it. No. I've been through. I've been through. Just I've been through. We just all collapsed. It was so ticklish. It was so funny.

There was the coolest waitress I used to waitress with would always say, Oh, my God, that person is so... And never, ever said the word after.

That's the safe thing to do. That's very safe. That's really safe. But you always knew.

How was Arie? She was so.

Then you get to... Fill in the blank.

Let the other person project.

It's a lot about how you say so.

Absolutely.

Yeah. It's an invitation for more projection.

It protects and projects.

Yes, it protects and Wait, but you think I've been through is so funny to me because that's minute three of the film. It's too much.

It's so funny. I understand why it's cut because it makes no tonal sense with the rest of the film.

It lives on its own, but in a The most brilliant way. The same way that I don't see color lives on its own.

Do we think that that comes to you?

No, it's so funny and it's so brilliant. It also is like, Yeah, we're commenting on what we're commenting on in this film. It's actually the most brilliant comedic way of saying, Yeah, that's what this is about.

I can't believe. I find it miraculous that that stayed in the final cut.

It's the best. I was hoping and praying. I had literally my fingers and toes crossed. It was sitting in the audience watching for the very first time. I literally, John Chee was sitting right next to me. And I thought he was like…

Thank you.

Thank you. I was like, Thank God. Thank goodness, honestly.

We need some Bowen Yang adlibs in the You guys, there's something terrible about an adlib that you do on set because you're with a friend, and you're disarmed, and you're being stupid.

And then you see it, and then you go, Well, fuck. A gajillion people are going to watch me do this stupid I have a lot of feelings about it as well.

Totally. That's like once you leave the set and you're like, the fuck did we just... It just happened.

Oh my God.

Because that's what we filmed.

Right.

Hope anything's okay. Yeah. It's like, wow. I feel like blacked out for two years. And now I'm like, Oh, good morning.

Now the people are coming. Come in. Come on in. The fans of Wicked are going to sit there and be like, We have a lot of feelings about what this has always been to us, and now this is the film.

Which is such a beautiful blessing and responsibility to have as people who also love it and have lived for this for 20 years and have done the research, read the L Frank bomb books and done their homework and have lived it and loved it. And It's such a beautiful celebration. We welcome the feelings. We welcome the feelings. I'm a fan girl with those feelings about the things I love. Totally.

To quote the show, I ask you a question. What is this feeling now for you? So sad and anew. So sad and anew. It was like two years of your life where you were monastic. You were a monk being like, I'm going to be so disciplined about this. And now I feel like it happened yesterday. And now all of a sudden, we're like, Oh, fuck. We have to, in a way, relive what happened and then also package it into a way that feels good for a sound bite.

Right. And promote and sell the thing. And it's just like, it takes this transition from being this intimate, really real feeling thing to us talking about it like it's a product. It's a very strange shift, but I'm really trying to hold on to the humanness of it all and just let that be what we talk about because it's so exciting to be able to talk about it. It doesn't feel like a press tour the the way it has maybe when I was doing it for music or something like that because it feels, I don't know, it feels different for a million reasons. I don't know.

Because you know what we kept saying when we shot it was like, it just feels like we're shooting a little indie. A little student film. A student film. All of a sudden, there's a mark.

I'm stepping on tape to do Wicked. It's never been done like this before, and yet we're committing it.

Yeah, that wall broke when there was a man on a hang glider with a camera in the sky. He was in Daily Mail on a parachute. We were like, Oh, shit. Oh, wait.

Yeah.

Oh, sure. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Oh, it's that. Yeah.

So someone flew in to try to get like footage, multiple people.

Got a lot.

I think I actually saw it on Twitter. I was like, Wait, what? It was literally from hundreds of yards away. I think you could hear you doing your color of Torah.

That was one of the rehearsals. They were like all the way across the water. There was a little river, pond thing.

There was a body of I'm big on water.

Of course, she's mom water son. One thing about Ariana, she knows her bodies of water. This cancer, she knows water. Yes. She- She'll talk about it. Yeah. I will. Across the way, there was- We're going to call it a brook. Across the brook. Over the brook. Yes. There was a ladder. A gay guy. There was a gay guy in a parachute. There was a gay guy with a camera.

The worst kind. A flying gay guy with a camera.

Bowen, what are you doing? Get down from there.

We need you for the shot. Damn it.

I was doing my fanning coming out of the closet. But no, it was a guy. It was a guy sending a drone. It was a guy sending a drone up. I can't believe this.

Yeah, but my favorite thing about it was like, I'm easy peasy. I was like, Oh, it's whatever. If Mark doesn't have a problem with it or John is okay. I'm going to just do my job. I'll ignore it and I'll block it out. Blinders on, whatever. But a lot of people were concerned because it's a big deal for that to come out before it's supposed to come out. But no one really cared Did anything about it. Yeah, they were like this. They were like this.

What are they going to do exactly?

I was like, Yeah, no, totally. I mean, I think I heard that there's people and I think I just saw some stuff. And they were like, Oh, man. Well, from the top, everyone. I was like, Oh, that's amazing. That's really cool. I was like, If you don't care, I don't care. Exactly.

That's nice. Yeah. Freeing. We love and we bless the people whose concern and job it is to make sure things are secure and safe and not seen.

Absolutely.

But sometimes it is other people working you up. Right. Into thinking that it's a huge problem when you're like, when deep down in your person, you're like, Oh, it's fine. I'll just keep doing what I do.

Yeah. We were all kept very safe. There was never any danger in that way. There's only so much you can do when we're shooting on these massive outdoor sets. Instead of having everyone stress about it and become anxious, like you said, and if there wasn't anything that we could do, we just started to have fun with it. When the drones would come me and the Munchkins would be like, Then I started taking my wand and being like, Okay, that's enough. Go away. Trying to make it fun.

But it was crazy. When did this happen? When did you guys know it was friendship and not just a colleague I enjoy?

I was so over the moon excited that you were going to be able to do it. Doing it. I called Lauren.

You did. You got on the phone.

Did you know about this?

I knew about this. Is that okay that I- No reveal.

Is that okay that I talk about this? No reveal. It's almost like you're comfortable.

Well, because I knew that it was a huge huge, massive ask, and also probably an impossible one. I didn't have anything, any resolution to pitch him, but I just called him and I was like, Hi, Lorne. Oh, my goodness. How are you? He was like, Hello, Ariel. What's going on? I was like, Is there any way? Is there any way? We can scoop the doll. That was the most nervous I've ever been. But, yeah, we made it work. He made it work. You made it work. You exhausted yourself and worked yourself to the bone. Yes.

It's the only time that I've ever pulled a pouty face in front of him to be like, I really want to do this. Then he was like, Okay. Okay, we'll do that again because it was cute as fuck. Show them what you did. I was like, I really want to do this. Then I did. I basically did that.

It was really tough what you put yourself through. Yes, but no regrets. But it was amazing. Zero regrets. I think the answer to the question is the minute you I was just like, Oh, my goodness. I hope that he is having the same experience that I'm having because I really want to be friends. You know what I mean?

It was a star shower when I saw you, when we met for the first time. The stars exploded. A collision. The stars exploded. It was at Leaves Den. We were doing rehearsals. Then I remember I was in my little room, I was reading a book, and then you came in and- Barged in. No, it was so perfect.

I was too excited.

No, you weren't. I love it. Cynthia came in and gave me brothers, and she was so fucking sweet. I'll never forget it. Then you came in, and then it was a meteor shower around you, and I was like, Oh, this is so fun. I think the moment that it was like, Friends, I think was when we watched Mommy Dearest together and then VHS.

Yes.

Ari loves… You guys don't totally align on this, but Ari is a huge horror freak.

Oh, you're a horror freak.

I am.

The way you said that Ari is a huge horror freak.

Does that sound bad?

No. Great. I've heard a lot, or so. But yeah, no, that's lovely. Thank you. You're a horror freak. I have a free kindness. A massive kindness. Thank you.

What's your horror pick? What's the best horror film?

I don't know. I really like… What?

Did you see the No, I'm thinking of giving.

What are you doing? What are you giving?

Have you loved VHS, and I'm just thinking because I watched Smile last night alone in my apartment.Smile 2 or 1?Smile 1 because I want to see Smile 2 and Smile 1 frees me out.

I would go tonight. Let's go as soon as we can. I wish I could go. How did you feel?

It was disturbing.

It's a good one. You like it? It's a really good one. I do.

Sosie Bacon, star.

Love Sosie. She's so fucking good.

She is a talent. She's a talent. But God, that ending is crazy.

It's a lot.

It's a lot.

But I love that. I love that. I love Heart. Wait, apparently.

Well, because apparently, Smile 2 also ends in a way that you're like...

Yeah, let's go. Let's go. You don't like, though.

I get really anxious, upset, scared, flicked out, frustrated.

I got you.

You got me. You're going to protect me out there. You know what I do, though? What? Haunted House. We just did the Oh, my God. Talk about this. We were truly in the woods in Pennsylvania. We were getting- Where in Pennsylvania? The Pocanos.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah.

So Studio Bowen and I went just to get a little fall moment. It was like an unassuming haunted house. It's like, Oh, this is in the middle of nowhere. It's not going to be budget.

No, but those are the ones. Those are the ones. Those are the ones. Those are the ones. Because there wasn't that many people there, which meant the groups when you're traveling through were small.

It's not like Halloween Horror Nights where it's like 30,000 people are there. You have to sign a waiver.

You have to sign like, waivers and stuff.

See, we didn't sign a waiver.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When there's no waivers, all bets are off. It's going to be scary.

Yeah, but usually, it's going to be scary.

Usually, though, if they touch you, you're supposed to have to sign a waiver. We were getting really harangued by these people, and I loved every second of it.

But that's what I'm saying. There's no waiver in place. So they really can't get you.

The Wild Pocanos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were in the Wild Pocanos at the craziest haunted house you can think of. I want to go now. It was what? 40 minutes How long was it? I swear to God.

No breaks.

No breaks.

No breaks. Relentless horror.

How do you feel about that? How much space did that take up? It was a big footprint. Was it like a two-mile extravaganza?

Yeah, it was a big footprint, like a compound, basically. Basically, we stayed at this resort, and the guys, as they bring you in, they're like, Okay, guys, so it's a bunch of actors, but they're just doing their job.

These people work in the kitchen at the resort.

They said, These people work in the kitchen, so it's low. We were like, Okay, so it's low stakes. Not at all. It was insane.

Well, they're letting it out. They're letting it out. They're letting it out.

The screams were not safe. Let's just say they came from here. It was like a woman flying out of a corner. It was like this.

It was like, Get out!

I love screaming. I love screaming.

That's divine. The only way you can respond to that is with a scream at that level yourself. We were just like, I'm like,.

Right. I love when you scream so much.

This is the best screamer.

How do you feel as a professional celebrated vocalist? Oh, wow. What is your...

Sure. Thank you.

Is this the first time you've been told?

I needed that.

What is your opinion on screaming? Because some people, it's devices.

How do you scream? Like that. Wait, for that to have happened in the second wait. By the way, we saw how she screamed, and it's like this. It was She's giving the soft palate. Yes. Look at her. She cleans up her own ice coffee. Ariana Grande, everybody.

Did we get that? Kiss my ass.

Kiss my ass.

Look at her.

I love getting that look from her. She's real.

Oh, my God.

She whiz. Wait. What is your opinion on screaming?

How do you scream?

Listen.

You're at Halloween Horror Nights, and Something.

She did it, though.

She went, whoa. No, that's not my... That's not the scream. That's not that. I think it's like…

You don't have to do it. I'm sorry.

I'd like to. I'd like to. Please. Thank you. No, I'd like to. We're going to. Okay. No, I don't know. I think it depends on the context. But screaming is weird because sometimes, I guess I subconsciously scream in a healthy way. Because sometimes after I scream, there were several scenes in Wicked where there's lots of screaming. I was like, Oh, my. I love screaming. But afterwards, I felt like warmed up or something. So maybe I subconsciously scream healthily. But I actually don't know that I intentionally... I mean, there are ways to do it, but I don't think it's something I choose when in fear.

Totally. Does this inspire or motivate you to do a horror movie? It depends on the context.

It depends on the script. I'm not like a gore for the sake of gore person. Totally. I also, I don't know. I would want to do a great job. I'd want to do an incredible job. It really depends. If I could lend myself to the character in a way that I felt would be really purposeful and great, then sure. For a dream project. But I like horror that is thoughtful.

It's like a lot.

Yeah, thoughtful. Not just blood for fun.

Totally. What would you categorize VHS? Blood for fun. Blood for fun. What would you categorize VHS as?

I No, we don't have to talk about it.

It's actually a really rough movie.

Why did I make you watch that?

Because you were being a good friend, and I was going through a hard time.

But that's not the thing to watch when you're going through a hard time. Absolutely it is. It's so anxious making. It was cathartic.

It was cathartic.

Did you feel better afterwards?

You sure weren't thinking about whatever you came there thinking about.

Period. Also, we did-It's really scary. We didn't enjoy... Not that we didn't enjoy the whole thing, but we did not stick with it because at a certain point, Ari goes, I've never seen the whole thing.

Yeah. I've never seen the whole thing. Do you turn movies off before they're over a lot.

No, just VHS. No, because it's a little vignette. It's vignette. It's vignette. I love the first vignette because this fierce goblin woman rips seven dicks off and flies into the sky.

Fierce goblin woman.

She's just like, it's really cool. It's close. It splits and she's gorgeous and cool and kills.

Are you going to see The Substance?

I am going to see The Substance. I'm dying to see it.

Yeah, I heard it's incredible.

Everyone I'm talking to that's seeing it is like, I can't stop thinking about it.

I need to see it. I'm really excited to see it.

October 31st on Mubi.

But that's I don't know my favorite horror film. I feel like that's going to lead people to think, I really... I don't know.

Would you have a favorite?

Would you have a favorite? Would I like to address this problem? What's your favorite horror film?

I'm not a huge... I don't know it too well. I'm not very literate, but I think I'm going to say, oh, God. Recently, I really did love...

Oh, are you going to say what?

No, no, not The Hills Have Eyes. No, girl, please.

No way. Not that. No. The one that was... It was like the demon came out of her head The One That Was on HBO Max. You know what I'm saying? Malignant?

Malignant. Malignant.

Because didn't you love Malignant?

I didn't see Malignant.

Joel loved Malignant.

What was the other one?

That's such a joyfully chaotic scene. Totally.

It's crazy. See, I appreciate complete insanity. Back when I was watching them, if it would get completely absurd. I loved Saw, the first Saw.

Right, because it's so brilliant. It's brilliant.

The ending, the way it comes together in the montage, I was like, Oh, my God, I didn't know I was watching art the whole time.

I can endure that much gore if it's that smart. If it pays off. If it's that smart. Yes. I love it so much. Yeah.

Just to switch gears, I really have to apologize to you in person. For what? I opened my mouth up too much when we kissed on SML.

You absolutely did. I was shaking with laughter. Wait, not really? No, no, no, no, no, not in a bad way. I'm so sorry. Not in a bad way. Just a disarming way. Because you know what?

The rehearsal- The chemistry was so good.

Oh, my gosh. Thank you. I mean, it comes from a real place.

I know it But I kissed you too much.

You know what? That's okay. No, it's not. We were really dropped in. And you were thinking about that? We were dropped in.

We were dropped in.

We were dropped in. And it felt like what these people needed at that time. It felt like what these characters-It was motivated.

Required. Yeah.

A little open mouth. I'm all for it.

I just... Should we talk about how we arrived? Because there was not a kiss originally.

Right. No, there wasn't a kiss originally. Whose idea was it? Well, here's the thing. No, you go. No, I mean, when we rehearsed it, a little, I don't know. Something went on. Yeah, in my head, and I was like, I didn't say anything because I was like, Oh, everyone's going to think I'm absolutely insane and too comfortable. But I was like, How funny would it be if we kissed at the end? Yeah. And then Bowen texts me a few hours later and was like, It's totally fine if this is way too crazy. But we were talking and thought it would be so funny if we kissed at the end. And I was like, Wow.

What if we kiss? I thought about that.

Yeah, I was like, Wow, I was thinking that. I'm so sorry. You were immediately on board? Yes.

Do you rehearse it? Do you do it in dress? Because I always feel like with rehearsing a kissing thing, I've only had to do it a few times, but it's like the rehearsal of it is like, Are we doing it? It's so uncomfortable.

Are we doing a conversion of it?

Like, what is it?

Yeah, it's like, Shit, are we doing it for real this time? Yeah. We kissing this time? I know.

So what was it?

We kissed in the dress rehearsal.

We kissed in the dress rehearsal, but in the... And I will admit- We had a very grown up conversation about it.

We said, Are we doing it or not?

We did have a grown up conversation just like that.

She came out a little bit there as well.

We dropped her on a drone.

Sorry, just talking about her. She comes out sometimes.

Are we doing it or not?

Well, I also have to pause. I think in the grand scheme of things, I was maybe a little over-eager because in the run-through on Saturday… On Saturdays in the afternoons, I go…

Looking good?

I was like, So should we do it? I didn't say, Do you want to do it for run-through? I said, I phrased it in a leading way of like, Should we? And you were like, Shall we kiss? No, I feel like…

Well, because we talked about maybe waiting till the real thing just to wing it and see how it was. It was like, let it be on the live. But then we were like, No, let's be adults. Let's rehearse it just so we know how it feels not have that surprise on live television.

So we just did it. And so your take on it. And just talk to me. Yeah, absolutely. Sure. His mouth was a little too open.

No, that came from him, not from me.

But you said you absolutely did open your mouth a little.

It was It was a little too open. No, I'm not kidding.

It was a little too open, but-No.

They have chemistry. But for the characters, I think it was perfectly open.

I would agree. I was watching it and I'm thinking to myself.

I did start shaking, giggling. Yeah.

Well, you got it.

Yeah, absolutely. I broke.

I was like, You're like, What is this gay guy doing?

It seemed incredibly purposeful and motivated. It felt incredible.

As long as that's how it felt for the audience, it's all good here.

Have you ever told Ari...

No beef here. No beef here. It's official.

I'm happy we put it to bed.

Thank you.

Me too.

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Wait, can we quickly brief about how SNL was for you? Because that was a top tier A+ all-time perfect episode.

Thank you. It really was. Thank you. I had the time of my life. I would have done it right after we finished at 1:00 AM again. I really love being there. I love every single person there. I just had It's my loveliest best time with everyone. I love laughing. I love comedy. I love bits. You're so good at it.

Thank you. Also, you can tell it leads from a joy that you have to do it and a motivation to work hard and get it right. I also can't I believe you've only hosted twice. You give the energy of someone that's been there again and again. That's so nice. It throws back to how good JT was of the show back in the day of coming in. What do you think it is that prepares you to do something like Saturday Night Live so well?

Oh, my gosh. I don't know. I mean, that's really nice. I find a comfortability in getting to know everyone. I love getting to know people when I come to a place. I want to befriend everyone and be open. When you're meeting all the writers and collaborating with everyone, everyone is super just open and talk about where you can go, like trying things and whatever. It just is a really safe and fun experience. I don't know. It's constant, but it's the best, and it's so much fun. I think I just love comedy, so maybe that is why I was so excited to go, and I felt very excited I think when it comes to doing big exciting things, sometimes it can become a scary, daunting thing. But if you hold on to excitement and gratitude and let that fuel the whole experience, it can really change the tone of everything. It's something I learned in my late 20s. But no, I don't know. It felt really fun.

The Return to Sutter brought joy. Oh, yes. It brought comfort.

Texting with Bowen constantly. Your friend is there. Having a literal best friend there. In the weeks leading up, I felt like I was bothering you because I was… No way. It's my turn to apologize now.

I'm not even looking at your phone, Ariana Grande.

No, I felt like I was blowing you up because I couldn't stop texting insane ideas for bits and silly things. I was just so excited to get there. Yeah. Maybe that's why. I think when you're excited about work- You're excited about the people. Yeah, and your work. It shows.

I don't know. It's a team. Almost like it's like... With Wicked, too. I was just going to posit that maybe when you get the audition for Galinda, that has to be a thing where you're like, Holy fuck. It's something I've thought about for a very long time. It's one of those roles that's going to be, someone's going to get it, and it's going to feel like, yes, incredible, that person, but a little part of you is like, Oh, God. When you get that audition, I I wonder, is it all just joy? How do you approach the comedy of something that's so iconically done and you respect, but you bring yourself to it because you do do that?

Yes. Thank you. I think it was one of the most important parts to me was finding that balance between honoring the iconic Glinda that we have had on the soundtrack for 21 years and the role that was written really by Wynnie Holtzman and Kristen Cheneywith, honoring what made it so iconic, which is the original material and people, while also bringing myself to it. It's interesting because knowing something and being a fan of something for such a long time is very different than having to become it and take it on. I don't know. I mean, a lot of just trying and playing and reading the script a hundred times fully through, even before the audition. Like, not movie one, the Broadway one. So that, choices of my own could come through and finding new truth to little beats and moments that play differently on stage because this isn't the stage show. And finding that balance was, of course, the most important thing because I know as a fan of it, how important it is to walk that line. And that's really all you can do is the homework and also trial and play. I have my amazing acting coach, Nancy Banks.

We did a lot of playing and grounding my vocal placement and even finding, okay, what inflection, how far do we want to go with it? And older vocal versus younger Glinda vocals. And what's the tonal shift when she's young versus when she's old? Incredible work in that regard, too.

I have to say, one of my favorite things about the movie, just holistically, and I think it's so funny that you guys didn't chemistry test because the chemistry between you two is just nuts. One of my favorite things about a vocal choice in that movie is that Cynthia is singing her whole part very clean until you get that note, and it has so much gut in it.

Well, it is a war cry.

Yes. That ends it, and you know that everything has changed in the way that note is sung. That intentionality Is just brilliant.

It's so beautiful. I was in the room. I got to be there.

When she actually was doing it?

You mean in the studio? Yeah, to hear her sing Define Gravity. I mean, I was there when she did the rehearsal tracks. But I was also on set when she was flying above me, singing. Define Gravity. You know?

You had to be there to witness it. Also, this is not a spoiler, but it does cut to Galinda pretty frequently during that moment. I think the Because you have an impossible thing to do in that moment, which is just to internally project that outward as everything in your world and your circumstance is changing. Even hearing you just talk about the prep and the consideration that went into this, you have the most expansive knowledge of this character. Thank God it's you because you're rising to every occasion with it. You rose to the audition, obviously in this such a storied way. I I love the lore behind it now that people know about. Thank you. I just know. That's good. Yeah, it's fucking amazing.

Thank you. The movie is about... You forget sometimes, especially seeing it now in the way that you guys have made it brand new. You really remember what it's about, and it's about speaking truth to power and how hard that is. And what your character is going through, what Glinda is going through at the end of at least this movie is she's not able to be strong enough yet to really be a face of dissent and rebellion. She's seeing a truth, and it's the journey that you have to go through there of, I know what's right, but I'm just not there.

It's also just a different... I mean, yes, but also there's a different I have a different version of that, which is that she is strong enough to know that she will never choose that because she can't. She doesn't have the tools, and she knows what is- That's so interesting. Important to her. Yes. It's like, It's not that she's not ready to do that. It's just that she's not a person who's going to do that. Having the strength to know that the... Oh, my God. Annoying. I'm so sorry.

No, I'm so curious about what your experience is.

No, it's just emotional because it's like, of course, it's acting, and I'm not going to, whatever. We hit our marks, and we do our thing, and we sing our songs, and we do what we're supposed to do. But it really felt so real. It feels how it feels in real life when you really love someone, but the paths that you need to take for your own truth and life and who you are, it's like you can't actually You can't actually continue growing together. You're growing apart, and you can still love that person so much and acknowledge that that's going to be best for them, but it's not going to be best for me. So I do have to not self-abandon in this I have to stay where I am. I want you to go there, but I can't join you. I think it's certainty. I think she's really sure in that moment. I think that that's strength. I don't think that it's that she's not strong enough to go. I think that she's strong enough to not go.

Right. Because there were... This is not to switch gears, but there were so many moments. There was one moment. I think it was during the I've been through. I've been through. It was during the I've been through scene where we were just adlibbing, and I I was, I forgot what I pitched you, but I was like, Okay, maybe we do our dance from school. I don't know. I pitched you a line, and then you looked me in the eyes, and this was done with such love and care and respect. Wait, what was it? I pitched you a stupid fucking line of like, We do an accent or something, and then you just look at you, you look me dead in the eyes and you go, I'm not going to do that. Did I really? It was so funny. We were dying laughing because I was like, Oh, of course. I was like, This is me playing too much with my friend. I was like, She's playing Galinda in the Wicked movie. I can't tell her. I can't tell her to do bits. Well, you can. Yes, you can. No, but literally- We always tell each other to do bits.

We always did that. But at that point, it was four months in to this two process.

Do you remember the strawberry Bush?

The Strawberry Bush.

That shit broke me.

And John can't find it, but I've been anxious to see it forever.

In the scene when it's Dylan's classroom and Dylan's giving the lecture about the history and what happened. And food grew scarce.

Right.

He was like, Food grew scarce, and people were angry. And then what's the line?

What do people- People were looking for, and she's like, something to- Someone to blame. Yeah, and then something to whatever. But there was one about food.

There's one about... Oh, yeah. He was like, The great famine occurred, and people were very angry.

People were looking for something to...

People were looking at what do angry people look for. And then Elphaba says, Someone to blame. But then on our coverage, it was a three-shot of me, Bronwyn and you. We did an ad live where it was like... Because he mentions the famine. Then what do angry people do? What do angry people try to find? I'm butchering this. This is terrible. Then I go, Wait, Why are you can't remember the setup? I'm ruining this. I'm ruining this. No. It's that set-up.

He said like a strawberry Bush. I smacked him laughing. I literally… I took my paper and I smacked him with it because it was so I wish it were somewhere.

We have to find it, John.

The strawberry Bush.

The strawberry Bush was incredible. Also, so was when Nessa flies up in the sky. That's my scream. I know that's your scream. That's your scream. Everything is flying around and things are falling and the thing falls on the ground.

What are you doing? I know how you scream.

It was the It's so powerful. It's so stupid. It was the best thing ever.

Before we ask you the question that is the central question of this podcast, I also want to say one other thing, which is that this scene of the year for me is dancing through life when she comes in to the Asda's ballroom. That moment, wow. Can you talk about shooting that? What was that experience?

Well, I love, first of all, I love the little shot of her peaking around the corner with her little hat, and she's so excited and But it's hard to describe because how it feels to watch, picture that a solid twelve hours of that. Four days or something. Yes. That particular section, the main bulk of it was like one and a half days. But it was like one and a half days of utter pin drop silence. And every single person in the room was absolutely just right there with Cynthia and holding a very warm space for how much she was giving the whole time. And it's such an isolating and painful scene. Yeah. You know? And even if you're acting, it's just like... It's such a heartbreaking feeling. And I had such flatters and butterflies that whole day. And it's just like holding space for her and then having this guilt and this realization that I'm responsible for this and just looking at a friend and trying to course-correct it just so much. It was a really intense day, and I feel the same feelings when I watch it back that I did in the room on the day.

It's so emotional to watch.

Yeah. It was a really intense day, and she's so beautiful in it. And I just remember at the end of the 12th hour, me and Mark and John all just took her aside, and we were like, Come on.

Yeah.

It was just a very, very, very powerful emotional day. And she did such beautiful work, and everyone just held the safest of spaces for her. I feel it when I watch it back. Certain scenes, when they start happening, my body has a physical reaction. When she peaks around that corner, I get anxious for what I know is going to happen because I know how it felt on the day. I think that's a sign of what beautiful work was done, because I feel like when you watch it back, you feel how it felt in the room.

It's a wonderful reminder that you were so dropped in I was present in that span of time, which was a very long time. I say four days because it was like with all the Yaa's stuff.

Oh, yes, with the dancing and stuff. I'm talking about this part. I thought we were talking about that part.

We were talking about the loneliness of that Cynthia is going through of I'm going to have this dancing moment, and everyone's watching her being like, What's happening? It's your realization that this is a human being who I've heard, and now I'm going to show up for her. The really wordless connection that you guys foster in that moment is so beautiful, and everyone's going to love the movie so much, obviously.

It's just so unfathomably spectacular in this film. It's so great. The choreography, I actually, even though we rehearsed it once or twice before that day, said I never learned it. I didn't want to remember it because I just literally wanted to be following her hands and letting her lead the wave. Because I felt like the more awkward it looks on Glinda, the more beautiful it can be. We're both just like little wild deer greeting each other and trying to figure out to speak the same language. It's so beautifully awkward, and I love it very much. It's very successful. I love her very much. It's a ride, this movie. Going from that into popular It was such a ride. Then back again, and then back again. It's a wild ride.

Popular is everything. You crushed. You got everything you wanted to be. God, you're so fucking good.

Thank you. Wait, can I just share one more of my favorite memories from the Asda's Ballroom? Yes. Other than the fun stuff that we did, the dancing and everything in the Ozdes, we had so much fun in the Ozdes Ballroom. It really was like a week. It really was a week. It was a week. They gave us these universal iPhones for behind the scenes stuff. It was actually only one. I think you and Bronwyn had it for that week.

Bronwyn and I had it for a day. For that whole week.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just remember the vibe that day and Bronwyn and you both being like, not... No. Not... Yeah. Because it was-Not the time. Because we were like, this is intense shit. Everyone's like, Okay, we're at the Ozda's Ballroom. The dance is happening. No, we're not. It's not the day, actually, for that.

What's up, guys? This is Bowen Yang, and I'm so excited because today is the day.

Hi, to 14.

We're here at the Ozda's Ballroom. We're about to group Buly Cynthia Arevo for three days straight. I was like, Are you kidding me?

They were like, Are you guys getting fun stuff? I was like, No, no, no. Not today. Not today, in fact.

Not today. It was like universal social media people. So sweet. Loving doing their job, being so accommodating.

I just remember you and Bronwyn being like, not right now.

Because it also is a little bit your character because your character doesn't get it. And by the way, you play a really good I'm not a natural bully. You really do.

Can I say your coverage in the Ansteads? I remember I got to sit behind the monitor and watch you and Bronwyn experience that scene. It was just so beautiful. You two are so brilliantly hilarious, but also just everything was so palpable. The shift, it was so funny and so beautiful. I love to. That's her. That's John. I have an iPhone video of that whole take, if you'd like it.

Oh, my God. Because you had the iPhone? I sure did.

That wasn't the universal iPhone. That was my personal one. I filmed everything that happened in the whole two years.

It was beautiful. That was against the rules. I understand.

But I'm a very honest thesis.

He sent me some videos from the set. Yeah. Don't tell. Can I say? Yeah. Well, it's over now. What are we going to do? Edit you out?

Oh, I hope not. I perished the thought. But not to place myself in that moment in that scene, that very intense scene, but I feel a degree of that same thing where I watched it back and I was like, God, I feel like absolute shit because even in doing it, because acting is acting, whatever. But even in bullying Cynthia throughout this movie, there were so many times where I went up to her and I was like, I'm so sorry. This feels so rotted in my soul to treat you this way. I think it's just a testament to the way she's being so completely raw and and vulnerable in every frame of this. God, you couldn't ask for two better people to do this.

That's beautiful.

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I am King Ernest Emmanuel.

I am the Queen of Laudonia.

I'm Jackson I, King of Kapperberg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Muntonia.

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Why can't I trade my country? My forefathers did that themselves.

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Oh, my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets holding. We We still have the off-road portion to go.

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I'm Cina McFarlane, therapist, life coach, change agent, who helps everyone from celebrities, athletes to ex-gang members through their addictions and help them wake up. In each episode of my podcast podcast, we hear inspirational stories. We draw lessons from those who have made it through their addiction and recovery to a better place, including legendary boxer, heavyweight boxer champion Mike Tyson. I feel like there's always been a calling for you, something higher? I don't know. I feel that way as well. But I guess everybody feels they're here for a reason. Yeah, okay. Even if it's to suffer, to help other people understand suffering is not as bad as people I believe it is. I believe everybody learns from each other. Why are you here, you think? To show people that you know anything's possible, you don't give up. Anything's possible. Listen to The Cino Show on iHeart, radio app, Apple podcast, wherever you get your podcast.

Hey, guys. I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversation emotions keep going. That's what my podcast, Postrun High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Postrun High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's light-hearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Postrun High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And how would you feel if your doctor advised you to keep your life-altering medical procedure a secret from everyone? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Some of you have been with us since season one, and others are just tuning in. Whatever the case and wherever you are, thank you for being part of our Family Secrets family, where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to Season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Ariana Grande. Okay, sorry. What is the... Why are you apologizing?

Because I'm dilly daddy. I'm taking us miles back. I know. I still have so much more to say about everything. We'll talk about it. We got to talk What's the one question?

The one question we have to ask you is, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? If you can look back in your life and you think, Ariana Grande became Ari Grande as a result of this influence, this thing in pop culture, this moment, whatever it is, can you speak on that?

Yeah. I mean, I think musical theater. I think Sherry René Scott is my answer.

I love that answer. Did you see Iida?

I loved the soundtrack. I was really little. I don't think I actually saw it.

I saw it with Tony Braxton.

Oh, my God. Work. Can you believe? No, but I saw Her and Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. I remember being like, That's life-changing to see. She's the best in the world.

You look at someone doing musical theater at a level like that, and you're like, Oh, well, I'm watching the most talented person on Earth.

Yes. I mean, her and Kristen Foster and just these ladies who I grew up just listening on repeat and just my musical theater goddesses. You know?

I don't know. Does it feel like Yeah, absolutely. I guess my question for you is, I'm watching Wicked, and I had that feeling of, Well, she needs to act more. But then also at the same time, it's like, you are probably the most just important, gifted, relevant pop artist. No. But let me say it because I believe it. Then you're like, does Broadway fit into that? Is it something that would make sense for you? Is it in your heart to actually go to the stage and do that?

It is my heart. It is like, I'm going to say something so scary. It's going to scare the absolute shit out of my fans and everyone. But I love them, and they'll deal, and we'll be here forever. I'm always I'm always going to make music. I'm always going to go on stage. I'm always going to do pop stuff. I pinky promise. But I don't think doing it at the rate that I've been doing it for the past 10 years is where I see the next 10 years. Good for you. I think I love acting. I love musical theater. I think reconnecting with this part of myself who started in musical theater and who loves comedy. And it heals me to do that, finding roles to use these parts of myself and put them in little homes and characters and bits and voices and songs. It feeds you. It really does in a different way than songwriting and writing about my own pain because it's just constantly reliving that one thing that you wrote the song about or that is... You know? Finding a character and putting the pieces there, finding a little home for them there, and then them coming back and feeding you and teaching you new things through performing the act of being, Glinda, whatever, and taking pieces from her back.

It really feeds you. I think that I would love to in whatever makes sense or whatever roles that we see fit or where I could really do a good job or honor the material. I would really love to because I think it's a lot better for me.

I hear you, especially because- I'm getting emotional. No, but I want you to know when… I've been listening to... I listen to you all the time, but so many of my favorite songs of yours, I can tell, are unbearable for you to put out there. I listened to... I won't even say the song title. Don't get me to you. I'm fine. I mean, imagine. I am fine. I wish I hated you. I had such an experience, and I have my own theories about what We Can't Be Friends is. But I think the video is something that spoke to, I know me personally and so many people in such a visceral way. There's that moment in the video, which, by the way, is the video of the year, and everyone knows it. They do. There's that moment where you hesitate in the process of having your memories removed, and it's like, I don't want to let go. I'm actually uneasy. Maybe my pain is really important. And if I lose that, where am I going next? It's scary. And I think that that's such a specific thing to get across, but has to be painful to literally fixate on the idea of eternal sunshine, because the idea is that we feel this way.

We want to create something called eternal sunshine because we're fixating on wanting to remove those emotions. And yet here we are, literally performing them. And I think that you're so sensitive in such a, you could say cancer vibes or whatever. But you're so in tune to your work, and you're so giving of yourself that it has to feel fucking exhausting. And so if you have other talents and other interests, I get that. I love you. I love you back.

That was such a thoughtful parade of thoughtfulness. I love you. Thanks. I don't Yeah.

Yeah, I hear you. He's good at that. He's good at the thoughtful parade of thoughtfulness.

Well, I mean, I don't know.

Good job at talking, Ariana.

No, that's not the idea.

But no, I guess what I'm saying is... The thing is, I'm not even asking you a question. I guess I'm just acknowledging and seeing, and I want you to know that as your fan, we just want you to feed yourself and do what makes you feel good and evolve. I love you. That's so kind. You are evolving. In I'm telling you, now am I going to cry? I just feel like it's so amazing to see someone do something they were born to do. I don't know. I've always felt like, especially because you've been such a good sister to my sister, I just want you to be happy, and I root for you. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'm sorry. Man, oh my God. Okay. I feel like… But this is what you do. You're such an available, open, and I'm a professional person, and I deeply…

We're so far away. That was weird. But thank you for taking the risk.

Oh my God. By the way.

I have little arms. You yanked her down the floor.

I think my chair is cemented to the ground.

No. I'm kidding.

That just reminded me of when I did Celebrity Wheel of Fortune with Paula Abdul.

She's so small that she would do the wheel and the wheel would take her. Take her in. She's in the middle and like, I'm here. This is Paula. She goes, All right, here we go.

And her leg went up.

She was a good sport about it. Can I just thank you for saying that? Just because it was so incredibly kind and I really appreciate it, and I am going to carry it with me. Art also is what feeds me. Of course. In whatever capacity it is, I'll always be doing and creating six different things at once. You know what I mean? I don't see that going anywhere. I just see it shifting and becoming a little different.

Write chapters. You know what I mean? I'm thankful to you for positions because that was my fucking fuck album for the pandemic. I'll look you in the eyes and say, I'm telling you, there's not a better piece. Thank you for R&B pops. Thank you. She can't handle that part.

We can be locked in.

I open my mouth.

No, I know.

But like, yeah.

It really didn't. It was beautiful. The characters needed it. But yeah, thank you. That's such a funny thing. The life cycle that album has taken because when it came out, it was like... Bizarre. It didn't go so well.

Did it feel like it came out in a soft way, whereas Thank You, Next In, Sweeter had been such moments?

Or do you care about that even? No, no, no, no, no, not even like that. I just mean as far as what my fans were saying and as far as whatever. I feel like in the beginning of the positions of it all, it was... I got a little... I'm not going to use this word as a bully, but you know. Yeah, I hear you. I just got a little bit of this is not what we want vibes, I think. And I remember that, really, I'm such a sensitive artist, whatever. This is the point. You put art there so that people can tear it apart and do whatever they want with it or celebrate it or whatever. I understand. I'm very grateful and in acceptance to be here. When I preface this, I need to preface it with that because I know it comes with being an artist. But I also am a cancer and very sensitive. So I just remember that really put me in a cage of judging every single piece. I scrapped so many things that I was going to put out for it. And now people are just... They love it like it's the best thing I'll ever make.

I'm like, What is that?

I'm like, How is that fair? It takes people time I said, especially when they really get worked up in their heads that we're going to get a certain thing, and then it's a little different.

But I love them for it, and it's okay, and it's fine. It's not mine anymore. That's the thing that I also have to say because I am aware. It's a part of it. I'm grateful for the voices and for the passion I am. I really am. You release it. But I'm also a person.

Of course. This is what makes you a true realized artist is that you are incredibly emotionally intelligent. I think EQ, you're the highest EQ person.

Einstein EQ, period. I think that every artist, not every artist, but it is this fun little jewel now on every artist's crown where it's like, Oh, you put out a body of work that ends up being, at the time, mischaracterized or misinterpreted.

Then over time, it develops the patina, and people are like, Oh, my God, this was always great.

It's strange to watch happen. It's interesting.

But I feel like with what you're saying about being an artist, we've had conversations about this, especially when Eternal Sunshine came out. We were like, God, this is really... Everything is so considered. I was even watching you I'm like, Do your makeup video for the boy's mind? I'm like, I don't want it. This is the stupidest question, but I have to ask you.

Okay. I bet it's not. It's going to be dumb.

No. Because you're so good at makeup, do you have an interest or have you explored drawing? Do you know what I mean? You're so dexterous with your… You're able to… No, look at me. Bowen, I'm not dexterous.

What What if we have crayons and we're just like, Could you draw?

Would you consider drawing a picture?

Drawing us a picture.

Painting me today. He brings out an easel and some oil paint. That is so stupid. I paint with my dad sometimes. Oh, yeah? Oh, that's so cute. I do little paint and sips sometimes. Oh, that's so cute. That's really cute. They use water colors. I painted for Cynthia, actually. I painted a cute little thing of Munchkinland, and it's like the tulips with the yellow brick road up the middle. And then there's a little bubble in the sky, and there's a green, cloudy behind it and a little tiny little Elfie and the monkeys behind. I painted that for her, but I don't have that much time to color a paint, so I don't. But I love to. And I'm very creative. My dad is an artist in every way. Graphic designer, photographer, a painter. Really? Yes. He's super creative in that way. That's so nice. No one's ever talked to me about painting, but of coloring before.

Right, but I'm saying it makes sense to me. You're so precise with the hand. Coloring's amazing. Coloring's amazing. Adults need to color. Coloring is amazing. Coloring is amazing.

Coloring is amazing. Coloring is Coloring's amazing.Adults need to color.I love a coloring book. Adults need to color. I love a coloring book, especially when it's a funny concept.

I just bought the one of Oz for Cynthia. Oh, that's great. Oh, cute. Yes.

The thing is, what was the way I said that? The thing is, is that when you get a wicked coloring book, you think, Oh, I know what everything should be. Then you just do it your own way. Suddenly, Elphaba is not green. She's purple. Think about that for once.

But my mom recently was like, Oh, is that a coloring book? She came over and I was like, you were both like- I haven't seen one in a long time. Yeah, she's like, and she self-proclaims, Yeah, I haven't seen one of those. I haven't seen one of those in- A while. But no, she says she's not creative and that she doesn't like things like that, but she loves it. I was like, mommy, you don't need to be creative. She's a business brilliant person. I gave her the colored pencils and the coloring book, and she loved it. But also, picture the character from SNL, and she was coloring so hard. She was like, I love this. I was like, mommy.

That was based in reality?

Oh, yes.

Wait, should we talk about this? Let's talk about the origin story of that.

This is why you should not apologize for… You did not text me a bunch before in the lead-up. Thank God you did because literally-We were helping write the piece.

This happened.

Two months before the show, before you came on. It was Labor Day weekend, and my brother-in-law, Hale's family was visiting, and we had a lovely fun game day.

It was so fun and funny and sweet. My mom is, by the way, the most generous, kindest, giving person in the entire world. She is like the hostess with the mostest. You will walk in and there are like a million fruit trays and vegan options for the vegan people. She's John Grande. The vegan people being me and Hale only. But even that, she wants to take everyone everywhere. She's just the best. She's the kindest, most generous person in the entire world.

Competitive.

Yeah. And fiercely protective of her children.

I see.

So even if we're playing, charades and whatever, you don't fuck around. So this is what happened. I excused myself immediately to send a voice note to Bo and I said, Okay, well, hi. We have to.

There is something brewing There's something here. There's something here. Could be something.

Yes. We were playing charades. And Hill's brother, my brother-in-law's brother, who they're all so sweet. They're amazing, was like, Ha ha, we're winning, vibes. The extent of it was like, we're ahead. Throw it back. We're ahead. And my mom goes, Tiny dick syndrome, huh? And I was like this.

Mom, tiny dick syndrome, huh? Mommy, wait.

That's not I was like, Mom, that's intense and harmful. That's so intense. We all were laughing. Of course, he laughed and everyone was laughing. But she was like, Well, that's a sign of what that is. I was like, Mommy, this It's just insane. Then I started doing it as a bit for Jessie, Hill's other brother. He was crying tears. It lasted the whole day. I was like, Bowen, we have to do something with this, please. It's just so silly.

I My jaw dropped. I was like,.

Yeah. Also, we have a very aggressive game playing family, too. I'm the opposite. Where my mom and Frankie and Hale sit on the spectrum of… I'm an alien in my family a little bit because I'm like, I don't care. I just want to have fun, and I want to be there, and I'm here for a good time. Got you. I'm okay. I just want to play the game. I'm happy to be there. I don't even know half the rules.

I'm just- Winning is not your culture.

No, no. It's participation. Being here is a great time, and I miss everyone when I'm not home. This is a great time. Not for Hale or Franky or my mom. It's a real deal. You're right. Hale is a real gamer, though. He knows games that no one's ever heard of in the history of the world. He's a genius nerd person who loves games. Franky can't lose a game. Mommy can't lose a game.

Because you know what? First of all-They can't lose a game. Ari's vibe on Jackbox is-They don't like it. A plus, plus, plus, plus.

I love Jackbox. We need to trend. You have to do, please.

Yeah, that's what we need to We need to do that.

We need to do.

Jackbox, we need to get J and A.

J and A. Josh and A are going to be Jackbox.

See, I see it in my mind. I love them.

I love your whole group.

They're the best. Group. They're the best. They really, truly are the funny stuff. Have you seen the fucking Identical Twins? I watched Dix. Or Dicks.

We watched Dix.

We watched Dix together. I mean, I'm obsessed with them. They're angels from heaven.

Yeah, that's a truly fun game, too, because really, who cares if you win? It's fun if you win, but it's really more just about making each other laugh. Giggles. Yeah.

It's about laughter. But I think Franky was about the points.

It's always about the points you got. He is about the points, too.

It was so funny. You know what that might be, though? Because I also am like, I'm the oldest and I'm a gay son. So there's that little bit thing of best little boy in the world, I'm going to win the game because you know what I'm saying? That might be a thing. A little bit. Because you're not really competitive need to win.

No, never.

You're really not.

Wait, sorry. I'm sorry. But speaking of Franky, can we go see Rocky Horror? Yes. While it's still happening, please?

How longer When was it happening? When was it happening?

I don't know, actually. We'll go. Tonight. That's it. You know what I'm seeing tonight?

Cabaret. Oh, my God. I'm seeing-Marty? Actually, Marty and Cabaret.

Really? I'm so jealous.

I know. I saw it in the West End with Jake Shears. Oh, great. It was great. I'm seeing it again. I haven't seen it yet in New York. I love Cabaret. It's one of my favorite shows.

Are you coming to the screening tonight?

I wasn't told the details, so I would love to.

I'll tell you the detail.

That's actually going to be really fun because it's going to be all the Broadway people seeing it.

But I wish I could be coming with you. We wish we could have both at the same time. I want to see Marty and Cabaret.

They're my favorite MCAP. Really?

Love that. I cannot wait.

What a beautiful person inside and out. Absolutely.

Good vibe. Isn't it great when… Because you're a drag race fan. You watch every season?

I watch almost every… I mean, I try to, yeah. I'm a big drag race fan.

Have you been judged twice or once?

Twice. Season 7, season.

Because I remember season 7, iconically, that was a really amazing episode. The first time you were there, and they did break free at the I wish I remembered more of that experience.

It's okay. You were great.

It was a long time ago. They did break free, and it was Candy Hoe versus Mama Who Won. Mama Who Won. Not Who Won the show, but One the Lip Sync. I'm forgetting her name.

Jaden Dior Fierce.

Yes, Jaden Dior Fierce.

Yeah, that was crazily the morning after we shot the Bang Bang video, and I had no sleep, and I came straight there, and it was a full twelve-hour day.

It's a surreal thing to me. When we were there, we also had a really good episode.

We had a great episode, but it was those Those were long days.

Your episode? Oh, my God. Yeah. No, it was beautiful.

That was fun. We got hallucinated by Dua was the lip sync, and we are screaming the whole time. When they cut to us and we are living the fantasy because it was Jasmine Kennedy. Of course. That was the disaster. Really ripping it up.

That was a great, great, great episode. We'll figure it out. We'll go see. Okay, so, Marty. Wait, hold on. We need to talk about something before we move on to I don't think so, honey. I can't even believe we're going to move on.

Why could I don't want to move on. This should go on for six more hours.

I know. Where's the scene?

Can we do a little more? What's in the city? Of course. Hold on.

No one has to be anywhere.

It's 2:20. No one has to be anywhere.

You sure? No, I'm okay.

Because this isn't a press day for you, or is it?

This is a press day for me, but this is the most important part. What else are you doing? I do have to leave at 3:00.

That's perfect. Okay, no problem.

You hear that? It's 2:20. If I can leave by 3:00, we're good. I'll be completely early and on time.

You know what else you need to go see and you need to go see? Is Sunset Boulevard with Nicole.

I know. I mean, that's everything I could want for a person. I love this moment for her so much. She is so in her element, so dropped in, so beautiful, so fucking talented. I love that. The pictures of her in blood at the stage door, that's me. It's iconic. That's you. That's a mood.

But Nicole, I love watching someone. She's so brilliant. It's like seeing you in the Wicked movie. It's like when you watch someone, you get the opportunity.

That's where they're supposed to be. How beautiful that is happening.

I'm telling you right now, I was at the opening night of Sunset Boulevards. I sat next to Candy Burris.

Oh, my God.

The legend. Like, literally star studded. So many people there sitting there watching her. I thought, wow, she is stepping into Destiny right now. She's giving one of those performances everyone will always talk about. It is amazing.

It's beautiful to see even from afar as a person who hasn't even seen it yet. I'm like, Oh, I know exactly what's coming.

We know We need to talk about Figment.

Oh, let's get into it. We do need to talk about Figment.

This is also another moment where I was like...

Oh, we're supposed to be in each other's lives. We're supposed to be in each other's lives.

Then I also thought, and did I not tell you, I was like, You need to meet my friend Matt Rogers.

Yeah, you Yeah. That was actually the moment. That was the moment.

We need to go to Disney together.

Absolutely. Which one? Florida or California?

I'm an Orlando girly. Okay. I'm connected. Me too. Me too.

We share that. Yes. We share that.

I mean, okay.

Also, it's where the Tower of Terror remains.

100%. Can you speak on this? Because this is really important because this came up with Mariah.

We mentioned you on the Mariah episode.

I saw that. And speak on Tower of Terror. Speak on Disney.

Whoa. Okay. I I'm going to speak on the Tower of Terror. Start there. Because I love and I respect the guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, we see her. Of course, I do. I think it's a beautiful- Experience. A beautiful thing. It's a great- A little racoon. It's impressive. It's amazing. I'm like a big baby Groot person. Yeah, I love it. Really cool. I don't remember much about her, but I love her. I just think that it is so- That was a zipper.

That was not a fart. I'm sorry.

That It was a noise over. There was a noise down here, which could have gone either way.

No, but I have to tell you. I'm sorry.

It had to be called out.

No, I'm sorry.

No, please. This space is yours. I'm in your home.

No, and you're literally about to meditate on Tower of Terror.

No, please. Honestly, I'm glad that happened because something needed to break the tension of what I was feeling inside. You felt 10?

About the Tower of Terror. You're angsty about this because you feel it's- I'm not angsty. No, it's an endangered species.

It's not angst. It's dire desperation. It's like real desperation. Existential. To protect and preserve what is the Tower of Terror.

Yeah, I believe it should be a historical landmark.

Absolutely. I think it's really important and great that there is the Guardian's the Galaxy ride in California. I think that's perfect. Aurora's Castle, all of that's great. I love that It's the first, and it's there. When it comes to Florida, when it comes to the Disney in Florida. Don't do it. First of all, we get Cinderella's Castle, which is also a landmark.

She's large and in charge.

Yes, she is. My mom tells us too often that she wants her ashes sprinkled over it. I'm like, Mom, it's Christmas. Do we have to talk about this right now? She was like, Yeah, you have to make sure that that happens. I'm like, Mom, I don't want to make sure that that happens. I think there's actors back there working, and so you're going to be sprinkled on people's heads who are dressed as Tinkerville waiting for their cue. Totally.

There's a hotel room in there.

Yeah, absolutely. There's lots happening back there. I heard it's small.

I've heard what you think the experience of staying in that hotel room.

I've been in there. Have you? I've been in there because I performed at the Castle one time, and I got to change in there, which was really cool, and it's really beautiful. It feels very real.

Do you have a Club 33 membership?

I don't.

But you've been in.

I've been there. I've been through.

I've been through.

I've been through. But yeah. It feels a little extreme to me. Yeah, sure. To have that.

What? The 30-year wait. Do you have it? I've somehow gotten in three times. But do you have a thing? No.

I can't.

It feels a lot. I am the mental illness where it's like, I will one day. Sure. I have a sick disease that no one can figure out what it is, where I will go there. Something happens to me when I go there.

If you do it, I'll do it. Okay, let's do it. I'm in.

We'll get on the list. Hey, put us on the list. Whoever the powers that be.

Yeah, put us on the list. But we have to make that happen. Yes, absolutely.

Keep talking. No, I think it's actually one of the most important things. It's art. That it's day.

Yeah, absolutely.

Did you ever tell Ari about when we had to be evacuated?

It broke on us. The tower?

It literally-We were on a metric ton of edible... What did we do? The Rice Krispies.

Rice Krispies. Oh, my goodness. It broke down?

It broke down. Not like As you're about to go in…

When she goes forward? When she goes forward, it broke down. That's so scary.

We were stoned out of our gourd being like, Yo, is this happening?

Honestly, it was like…

That's not fair.

It was the thing where it was like…

That's not good.

We were between worlds.

Right. While we were like…

Between worlds. What they ended up doing was someone comes in out of the shadows.

Out of the proscenium. No.

You guys need to get up and out.

How did they get up? Wait, how did they get in there?

Stairs. I hate an illusion being shattered when it was, but it was fascinating because they go, You guys need to get up, walk into the twilight zone, and step out through the exit door. Oh, no.

Take a real elevator down.

I don't want to know where the exit door is.

We're not going to tell you.Don't tell me.

Isn't that crazy? That's really crazy. I'm so glad that you're safe and that it was fine.

We're okay. I hope one day you experience this.

I don't want to know where the exit is.

I don't like when anybody breaks down. I mean, I'm breaking news. Have you been down there to do the Guardian's roller coaster in Epcot?

Amazing.

Another piece of art.

Amazing. That's what it should be. That's close. That's what it should be. That's incredible. The music is different every time. It's just fabulous.

When Conga plays? Crazy.

Crazy.

It goes crazy.

It goes crazy.

Absolutely so glad you brought that up because I was going to bring it up.

This was funny. We ended up going a bunch of times, and I was like, God, I wish it was They go, They say that it's going to happen in two things, and they can put you on the train for Conga. We did it, and it was the best.

Then what was it that you wanted? I really wanted tears for fears. Everybody wants to roll the wheel.

We never got it.

They couldn't figure it out for No problem.

No problem. Oh, my. Well, we'll have to go again.

We'll have to go again. On set on Wicked, there's a sculpted thing, a gigantic sculpted- Jeff Goldblum. A thing of Jeff Goldblum as the Wizard.

Wait, do you remember when we discovered his head and we didn't know about it?

We didn't know. Then I remember. Do you remember that? I have pictures of it.

Yeah, because we were going for a walk.

We were going for a walk.

Talking about life.

Then we happened upon this gigantic face of Jeff Goldbloom's face.

Of Jeff Goldbloom's face. We were like, Oh, dear God. Oh, my goodness, Jeff.

Basically, a two-story, tall, sculpted face mask of Jeff Goldbloom. We were like, Wow, this is crazy. Then it's in the movie. It serves a purpose.

Yes, it serves a beautiful purpose. But we just We had no idea we were so disarmed by it. Yes.

Was this Figment?

No, this Figment. But in a way, one day, we were on set.

We were on set and we were just- We were just talking about our favorite Disney. Characters.

Who said you love Figment. We love Figment. Journey into the imagination. Yes, because we were like, Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

We had said, Oh, my gosh. You know who I love? That Figment.

That Figment guy. No, get up, girl. Deep it down.

Wait, no. Here's the actual question I need answered absolutely right now. If they were to add one of your songs to guardians of the Galaxy-I don't want.

They don't have to do that.

Don't do that because I want it. Why is it into Why is it into you? Can you imagine? I would be.

You're like, I would love to ride the Ghost In Guardian of the Galaxy version.

Ghost In? No.

It's like, I can be needed.

I was watching for some reason Then sometimes, as I want to do, I'll watch old clips of The Voice. Would you ever go back and do that again? Do you think you mostly did it because the chair spun?

No, but it was a perk. It was a good perk.

The theme park thing of this.

Yes, it's so crazy.

It feels really fun to me.

It is really fun. It's clearly to you, too. You have to go do it at some point. I would love to hit the button. It's really fun. It's really fun. I got so emotionally attached to everyone. That's my problem. I can't really do that because I really get in. I really get in there with everyone. I love everyone so much. I love meeting people, and I felt so invested. I still do. I see them all on Instagram.

Do you keep in touch with?

Yes. I mean, not. I've been busy. I haven't really been in touch with anyone, but I love them, and I'm in touch with them on Instagram. I like their posts. I see their things. I see what they're up to. Bella had a baby. Sasha's putting out solo music. Sasha of Jim and Sasha. Incredible. He sent me his project last year, and he's so talented. I'm still in touch with some of them, but it's just I get very involved.

Yeah. Also for a non-competitive person. The rest of those judges were really competitive. Kelly is really competitive.

I love her. I love it. She's the number one. She's the best in the world.

Is she the best singer in the world? She's fucking incredible. I think it could be... Kelly It could be a thing.

She's unbelievable.

Just wild.

She really is one of the greatest vocalists that there ever has been ever.

So were you being young when she was on American Idol? Was that a trip for you? I wonder when you meet these people that are now your peers, or now these... Gosh. Well, it feels probably odd to say. It feels crazy. You as someone who's a really reverent respecter of these vocal legends, now to hear hear them, just to be able to engage with them? How do you approach that?

I mean, so many things that have come to be in my life feel like such a dream. I can't really fathom a lot of things. Even getting to know Imogen Heep. Just meeting her was one of the best things that has ever happened, ever. I was so in shock and all. The first time I went to go meet her, I thought it was me and catfished. I didn't really think it was going to be her. I was really scared. Then I got lost in the woods, and I was like, This is it. I'm done. It was in the woods. Well, the journey there. I'm not going to I'm not going to drop a pin. It was in the woods. I'm not going to drop a location. She said, Meet me. In Emmy's house.

She was like, I'm in the Pocanos.

No, but it really is a trip. Yeah, yeah, of course. I just feel so deeply grateful because so much of the art that I have loved, I've I've developed an interesting relationship with or artists that I've loved. When they say, Don't meet your idles, I've had so many positive experiences of that, and I'm so grateful for that.

Can I share what the moment was that I got to Winners of You meeting Stevie next?

Yeah.

It was for promos on Thursday. Oh my goodness.

She had written me a letter a few years ago. So we had spoken. You'd been in contact. We had spoken once before, but we had never met.

But sorry to interrupt. No, no, no. And Arie and I were already on the floor just giggling, being stupid. And then, they bring Stevie on, and I just immediately knew to back away. No. Stevie took Ari's hands and was like, I have to tell you that I loved your video for We Can't Be Friends. It reminded me of so many people that I have come across in my life.

Probably brought Lindsay Buckingham up.

Sure. Totally. For whatever the song means, for her to…

That was such a surreal moment. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe anything. She's so kind and so cool and so beautiful. I can't really get over what that was like spending those few days together and sharing a space with her. Just such a warm, beautiful good witch in every sense. You know? You know? Yeah. Just overly generous, overly friendly, overly kind. I don't know. I feel like I love meeting people and talking, but sometimes I can go and stay, overstay my welcome. I feel it. I felt like I wasn't doing that. She just wanted to keep going with me. I was like, Oh, my goodness. We're both going and going and going. And she's such a just a sweet, kind, kind energy. I just, I couldn't wrap my head around it.

What she's offering right now, too, with this new song. I was watching an interview with her a couple of days ago, and the song is about women acting right now and us voting and fighting the fight, in really making sure that we don't lose rights. But she was really talking about it in a way of service. She said this line in this interview where she was like, I was given this gift and I'm doing my job. She's like, I'm out here. You get the sense that it's just like, she didn't have to do Saturday Night Live. No. You know what I mean? I would imagine that's a pretty daunting thing to be asked. She spoke on how nervous she was. But you get the sense that she's like, no, I'm being given this opportunity.

People need to hear this song.

I'm being given this opportunity. I have this to offer. She kept saying, I tell a good story, so I'm going to go out there and tell the story. It was just like, there was a selfless artist mentality that she so clearly had and has had.

There's work to be done, and I'm going to do it. She's unbelievable.

There's a serviceability in what she does that she knows about. She's like, I'm going to be the vehicle for this message. God, I just love her. I loved seeing you guys together.

That was really fun. It felt That was really special.

The BTS, because I remember, we got to be on the floor for Edge of 17. There was a moment where for some reason they had to hold it back for a second. I guess maybe some commercial was going too long or whatever. There was a moment, but I was watching you guys interact with each other and have a moment of play in that moment. I was like, this is very… It's obviously a cool live TV moment where they had to count down a few different times. But just watching you guys together was a really It was really sweet.

We both looked at each other and we were like, Yeah. It was very sweet. When live things like that are happening, everyone gets a little nervous, and we felt like the audience get a little tense, too. We started doing a bit with them, too. It was really fun.

You could play her in a biopic.

Oh, why?

Not to be like, That should happen in the way that… You can cut it if you want, but you could.

Oh, my goodness. There are so many girls that would be perfect for that.

Well, I'm just saying. You're maybe one of the girlies.

Stevie should play Stevie in that.

Oh, there you go.

No one can do Stevie better.

It's like when Fantasia played herself.

Absolutely.

Remember that? It was a year ago, Fantasia played herself in her own bio for a lifetime.

Yes. Yes. Genius. It should happen more.

Do you remember when Cher played everyone in West Side Story?

West Side Story? Yeah. Iconic.

Fabulous. You could pull that off. That's really fun. I want to know what that meeting was.

You You think it was just one meeting?

Yeah, yes. Yeah, I do.

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With our I don't 20 minutes. Let's cross into I don't think so, honey, because I don't think so, honey, it always provokes conversation, and I want to leave room for it. So I don't think so, honey is our 60-second segment where we all rant, rail, and rave against something in culture that just bothers us. It's a cathartic moment, and we're all going to be made better for it. I have something that I'd like to do. I haven't planned anything out. I just have my emotions on this thing.

Okay, that's good. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, Calamari. Can I ask you a genuine question? Who actually cares? I do. You actually care about Calamari. I don't think so, honey, that it's ever different one place to the other. Don't get me wrong, it's a really good appetizer. There's no versatility. If you get into being versatile, then with your calamari, what's going to happen is it's not fried. Then it's just like, what? Boiled calamari?

Sure.

I'm sorry, but no. I'm vegan. It's boring. The things we can do with other appetizers. Look at wings. Look at my girl wings. You can have her lemon pepper, you can have her Buffalo, you can have her barbecue. I've only listed three. I don't have time to list the rest. But what I'm saying is the versatility. Now, I hear you at home. Matt, what about Buffalo calamari? You have a point.

Fifteen seconds.

But you don't see it. You don't hear about it. Calamari is like something that's on the table constantly, and I'm like, That's great. But are we just not using our imaginations? Five seconds. Put Brussell Sprouts on the table as an appetizer. I'm saying it, but he is nodding. I want to say, Let's get more creative with Appetizers, seafood restaurants. I'm looking at you like, Come on, let's get the raw bar together.

That's quite enough. That's one minute. All right, that's great.

I just feel I don't think anyone agrees with me.

See? I agree. I don't think. I mean, but I also never had it. I don't want to eat them.

You don't want to eat them? I don't want to eat them.

I don't want to eat them. I got to say- I think it's better for the world.

Yeah, I hear that deeply.

But to each their own.

To each their own. Because you're right, it is better for the world. I mean, when Natalie Portman came out with that documentary, did you ever watch her doc? No. So eating animals. It was what it was called, and It was so crazy to watch her do press for it because she was like, Listen, my documentary does talk about how it's much, much better for the world for us to not do it, but I'm not telling you not to. I'm just here with my documentary. Yeah. And watch it or don't. This is the choice I made for myself, but I will let you know.

She's like, It's not that you're wrong, I'm just right. Yeah.

It's not that you're wrong, I'm just right. It was really the vibe.

Which is a vibe. Two things can be true.

For me, yeah, two things can be true.

It's not that you're wrong. I'm just right.

Right, absolutely.

I'm right, and you might be wrong.

I'm big and you're small.

What's that from?

Trunch Bull. Say the legend's name, Trunchbull. I have a question.

Should my thing be about the Tower of Terror?

Absolutely. Absolutely. Should I read it? Yes.

Hold on, I have to get it.

Do you want to go in then? I'll go.

I'm just pulling it up. I do want to push back and say that you cannot say that anyone who likes Calamari is unimaginative when it comes to appetizers. I just think that all the sauces you named for wings can easily be slathered onto an octupus. But you don't talk about it like that. I'm just offering up my rebuttal. That's all. I've got something.

Are you Calamari Queen?

I love Calamari.

Have you ever watched my best friend, The Octopus? Yes.

Oh, My Octopus Teacher. My Octopus Teacher.

My Octopus Teacher. That's what it's called.

That's a movie for dads, for sure. My dad loves that show.

For dads and me.

You know what I've seen four times? Blackfish.

Yeah, that's a doos.

I stay watching it.

For us, doesn't it stay with you after one?

I have a mental illness that no one can tell me what it is, the things I do sometimes.

Twitter will tell you.

Oh my God.

They'll tell you.

I know they will. Come on.

The one One day, they all came for me. They were like, Matt has ADHD. I was like, Stop. Then I was, now I'm like, I do.

Absolutely.

No, you cannot.

They tell me I have a lot of things.

God.

Guys, stop. You're on to something. No, I'm kidding. I'm joking. You're No. It's really invasive and scary. I'm right.

I put my glass line. I look at the computer, I'm like, What did they say I helped? I'm like, What did they say I had?

I'm like, Write that down, that down, that down. No. Just wrong and loud and unhealthy. Wrong and loud? Yeah. That's it.Wrong.

And loud.

That's toxic.

You ready to be right and loud? Yeah. Would you like to think so Yeah. Here comes Bow and Yang. By the way, I was showing Ari the intermediate Mariah playlist. This is good stuff. He needs to send that to me. Yeah, I will. It's a good one. Okay, so Bow and Yang, locked, loaded, ready to rip, roar, and ride. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.

I don't think so, honey. Ginger. I don't like the way you're shaped. I go to the grocery store, you're shaped like branched dicks, and I don't like how you slice into it and you leave it on the counter and it becomes stringy. Then, Nigella Lawson describes ginger as having a spicy warmth. I go, Shut up. It doesn't do anything. When was the last time a ginger shot kept you from having a cold?

Me? Yeah. Hi.

Damn it.

30 seconds.

It is not pulling its weight anymore. Ginger, you think it's a placebo, you all? I'm telling you for a fact. It is not actually doing anything. You're eating something spicy and gross, and it's not actually good anymore. And Big Ginger is making all these candies now. They're going to make you feel like you're supposed to be healthy. No, I don't think so many ginger. You're shaped weird. Five seconds. I don't think we're ever supposed to have eaten you. We're supposed to have letting you grow in the ground and take roots.

That's one minute. Be buried. Look at the faces of your friends.

They're laughing.

They're laughing next to me. I couldn't have been at us.

No, I think they're laughing at us. If you're laughing at us, say, Wooo. Oh, no. I think that's what's happening. Oh, no. Thank you. Thank you, guys.

Thank you. Well, I think- Well, now we're both embarrassed. You stand by your calamari. I don't think so, honey. This is a disaster.

Ginger.

Ginger is fabulous.

Yeah.

I'm sorry. I've always thought so until I used it for a dish yesterday, and I went- What was the dish? Yeah, tell us. It was a curry.

It belongs... It has to be in curry, doesn't it?

You would think. Too much. Well- Much too much.

Did you just put too much in?

That's on ginger.

That can happen.

That's on ginger.

Ginger, much like Star Anise has a big presence, sucks up all the space in the room. Certain flavors really can't be. You can't share a dish with them. No. I think they're very self-conscious about it. I think Star Anise comes into the room and is like, Hi. Hey. I'm sorry.

It's good to see you guys. Sorry to take up so much space.

Celery is like, Fuck.

I don't think people know you as a culinary icon.

You are.

Has it been something you're holding back from the world?

Well, I mean, I don't think I'm a culinary icon, I'll say.

Giada is shook. Giada is shaking.

I do like to- Don't you feel Giada shaking?

I think Giada DiLarentes is shaking.

What does Giada DiLarentes have anything to do with it?

I think Giada DiLarentes is watching this right now and being like, Fuck. Ariana is good. She's coming for me. She's cooking. Yeah, she's cooking now.

I am cooking. I am cooking. I like to cook. I do. I don't think that's enough of that. I don't think there's life there. I don't think it's interesting or adds value to this podcast. Who cares? Who gives a shit? Who gives a shit? Why am I going to sit here and talk about like, roasting mushrooms for the next 10 minutes? Oh my God.

No problem. Whoa, that's amazing. Tell more about that. No, don't.

Well, you know.

But honestly, anyone cooking fascinates me.

Do you like king oyster trumpet? Like the trumpet ones? The trumpet mushrooms? Yeah, the trumpet ones. I do like those. There's so many different ways you can work those guys. They're beefy.

So many different ways you can work those guys. That's what I found it crazy.

It sounds just right. Especially about something that looks as phallic as it does.

There's so many different ways you can work these guys.

No, but you can make them into little like, scalops.

You can make them into scalops.

If you can sauté them like that, or you can chop them.

I wish you would have seen from Queen because you know where I want to take her.

You can chop them thin and then roast, like bake them in their little chips.

Yeah. I love that.

I want to take her to Brooklyn Crab.

Oh, yeah.

I used to work at this restaurant in Red Hook.

She can't eat a thing. Take me. You can't eat a thing.

You can have a drink. I can have the sides. That's the one thing about being a vegan. You really get to know the sides.Sides.

Queen.that's right.

It's like, Can I have the sade Spanish? Is it in butter? You got to ask. You can ask. You can ask.

Well, speaking of-I told you that I'm not going to go anywhere. Speaking of serving up a dish, here it is. So are you ready? Oh, yes. So this is the moment, and it feels like you've now thought-Well, I didn't know what I was going to do, but I feel like now that we've talked about it, I should use my letter.

Absolutely. Now is the time.

Use the letter. It's time for everyone to hear the letter.

This is Ariana Grande's I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. Wait.

Wait. So this is going to be a different take on I don't think so, honey. This is a historical artifact. It's a written document that really serves as an I don't think so, honey. Here we go.

Here we go. This is Ariana Grande's I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.

I don't think so, honey. The guardians of the Galaxy ride in Disneyland, California. No offense. Said with much love and respect for it. An open letter to Disney World, Orlando. Hello. I hope this finds you well. My name is Ariana Grande. I've been a frequent visitor and a great admirer of your park since I can remember. Some of my fondest adult professional memories have been collaborating on my cover of Alan Manken and David Zippel's tremendous hit, Zero to Hero, and performing in front of a Cinderella's Castle along a magnificent choir that you so graciously provided. Further, some of my oldest and warmest personal memories include spotting hidden Mickey's across the parks, driving up from Bocca on the weekends, counting the purple signs, knowing we were nearing your parks, and alas, dot, dot, dot, dot, the twilight zone tower of terror for the first time once I was finally tall enough. Perhaps this message comes prematurely, but I would be remiss if I did not reach out with a potential matter of grave concern. In the wake of the most recent alterations that have befallen your historic park in California. Yes, I am referring to the calamitous loss/ makeover of the tower of terror ride here.

I humbly implore you to not follow suit. Please allow the iconic and tremendous tower of terror to stand tall, permanently in the name of historical preservation, spooky honor, and good old fashioned fun. I hope that you'll consider this humble plea from a passionate fan. Am I way over? No, no, no, no. Go, go, go. While asking that my own passionate and devoted fan signed the attached change. Org petition just in case. I never posted this, but I really wanted to.

That's one minute. That's one It's not a joke. I once created a change.

Org petition.

I was like, I'm not going to send it. My best friend Aaron and I worked on this together during the pandemic.

You can tell it went through draughts.

Yeah, absolutely.

The vocab.

Yeah. We really just wanted to- Calamitous loss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You… So you never sent it?

No, I never posted it. Now it's out there. But I was ready. But it felt like there were more important things going on in the world. So I didn't- There's always more important things going to be more important. I don't know. This was really up there. I'm kidding. Here's the thing. I'm joking.

But it's not a joke. I once created a change. Org petition for Disney World, and it actually got a lot of signatures, which was I did not want them to make Donald Trump in the Hall of Presidents. Oh, good. I was like, this would be ridiculous. Don't do it. And they didn't. And then- Right? No, they did.

Oh, they put him there? They put him there.

That's crazy. Famously, You know what I'm going to say. They started to make a Hillary animatronic because everyone was so positive. They scrapped it. When you go down to... If you ever go to the Hall of Presidents and you see the Donald Trump animatronic, he has Hillary's face.

No.

What are you talking about?

I'm talking about exactly what I said, Ariana. I'm talking about exactly what I said.

It's scary times, everyone.

But literally, he's got the face shape. You can confirm this, right? A hundred %. A hundred %. He's got her face. I can't say anymore. Sure. I'll post it. But I did a change. Org, and it did some numbers.

And we will post the change. Org petition that you're referring to.

You know what? I don't want to rock the boat.

No? Too late. This is a duty. It's true.

It is too late.

Consider the boat rocked as fuck.

It is too late.

No.

It's okay.

As we say goodbye, Why was this so good?

I literally... I had been waiting to meet you.

When we finally met.

I know. And also I felt like it was the SNL afterparty, and it was so... There was so much going on, and I literally…

You had a glow around you. You had a halo around you coming towards me, and it felt like an angel descended from the heavens. I was literally like, this person? Wait, I literally... Because we've messaged, and I know you, and we know each other. We have DMs every now and then. Yeah, absolutely. But I was just... I told Bowen, I was like, Oh, my He has such a disarmingly warm energy. I am so obsessed with him.

Well, I felt like I was meeting Ari, and so it was just like, I give her a hug and I'm like, I just want to say that. I was like, I can have this conversation with her later about how meaningful it is to me that you were there for him when he was going through things. You know what I'm saying? I just always I felt very connected to you because I could tell that my friend had a friend. Anyway, that's how I feel about that. You just are such a sensation in this movie and in everything you do.

We love you because we knew you.

You know we used to sing for good.

I need to hear that. Yeah.

I was off of that. I was Glenda. I'm Glenda.

That's tracks. Tracks.

It does. It really does. We actually We had it together there for a while.

We had a great rendition.

There was once a video of us doing that.

I feel like I have seen it. But I want to see it in person. Yeah. We got to do it.

We'll do it soon.

We'll do it someday. But it's so emotional to get through. Oh, forget about For Good. That must have been crazy shooting that.

I was hovering outside my body for two weeks. Also, we shot it on a rain cover day, so it wasn't even supposed to be when we were shooting it. Got you. Which I loved because- Snuck up on it. I love not overrehearsing or knowing fully. When you know the girls, you can just jump in and do what you're supposed to. It's fine. It was a lot. We had to do... Movie 2 is going to be a lot. I can't wait. We're not allowed to talk about it much, but I just will say it's going to feel different than the first.

I haven't seen it. Everyone that was like, It should be one movie, you're going to feel silly.

It has to be two. I think you understand once you see it, that there's just simply too much. There's too much to get through that deserves and needs to be honored and explored and fully represented. We got one shot to make these movies until they remake it and whatever. But we had to get it right. There's so much story that deserves the time. Got it right. Thank you.

So did you.

You are brilliant. I love you both so much. Thank you for having me. This was so much fun.

We end every episode with this song. Switching up positions for you. Can't you live in the bedroom? Now, you're not knowing it in front of her.

I know it. I was coming to you.

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Bye. Maybe it was just the key.

I'm just...

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Hi, I'm Dani Shapiro, host of the hit podcast, Family Secrets. How would you feel if when you met your biological father for the first time, he didn't even say hello? And what if your past itself was a secret and the time had suddenly come to share that past with your child? These are just a few of the powerful and profound questions we'll be asking on our 11th season of Family Secrets. Listen to season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.