Transcript of Selena Gomez

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are very excited about our guest today. It is Selena Gomez, the multi-talented, incredible businesswoman and comedian and singer who is just a total delight. We're going to talk about a lot of fun things today. We're going to talk about her incredible business and her success as the founder of Rare Beauty. We're going to talk about Only Murders in the Building and working with legends and being one herself. We're going to talk about Tejano music, her favorite kind, and music that she listened to growing up. We're going to get to know her grandmother's favorite recipe. All of that and more in this episode. But we always have guests tell us about our guests. We always talk well behind our guests back and have someone special to talk about them. Today we have, well, one of my comedy legends, a person who came on an early episode of this show and who a lot of people don't know, has totaled my car three times. Martin Short. Marty? This message is brought to you by Apple Card. Each Apple product, like the iPhone, is thoughtfully designed by skilled designers.

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Hi, baby.

Thank you for coming back.

I was just sitting- Hey, by the way, I loved our show.

Me, too. It was such a hit.

Nothing was funnier than when you called me a motherfucker.

Where are you?

I'm in Toronto. Oh, fantastic.

I think I told you I went to Canada a lot in the summers, and it was always cold. But is it warm there right now?

It got insanely hot because we're spiraling toward the sun as you It got very hot and very humid. No, the late got to be 81. I know you don't believe it.

That's good.

81. I know you would still call that a cold plunge, but not for Canadians.

Have you cold plunge since we talked? No, ma'am. Well, I can tell.

You can tell by the skin?

I can tell by your disposition. Very fiery.

You know what? By the way, fuck off, okay?

We're going to talk to Selena today, who I don't think I've ever really met.

Really, she's absolutely lovely.

I know. I want to tell her this part of the show is talking well behind somebody's back.

Who are you talking to about?

You. You're talking I'm talking- Just me? Yeah, you're the person I'm talking to.

Do you think this was just me calling you? Let me know when we're recording because if we're recording all this.

We're recording right now. What?

Okay.

I'm glad I'm talking you about Selena because I remember when we were together, I said, Oh, what's it like working with her? And you were like, She's great. You said she's just a doll. I remember thinking, Oh, it's so good to hear because that's the vibe I got from her and wanted it so much to be true. But I do feel like you can tell a lot about somebody by how they work.

Yeah. I mean, the thing is about Selena is that she is just an old pro. I had never met her the first day we shot, and we had Zoomed, and it was because of COVID. You just have to zoom all the time. And as I'm driving there, I'm thinking, What is Selena Gomez going to be like? What if she's a nightmare? What if she's mean to people? She's rude. I knew if she was late, 40 minutes late every day, Steve would say, Very good one season. I don't care how big a success I'm, I'm not doing it. Right away, I met her in the makeup room and she smiled at me and I went, We're fine. She's just been a doll. We've really, really become very close I just adore her. I'm so happy that she's getting married to this fabulous guy, Benny Blanco, who's just one of the great cool guys and funny and loose, and she adores him. I don't know. I'm just thrilled for her happiness, and I'm thrilled to get to work with her every day.

I know that she gets asked a lot what it's like, what she's learned from working with you and Steve, but what have you learned from working with her?

I knew everything.

Yeah, it looks like nothing. It looks like you've stopped learning.

I learned you can order an egg with caviar on it and not be ashamed.

That's my thing. Caviar egg. You never gave yourself permission to do that before.

I didn't, and I don't know what I was waiting for. First of all, I don't like caviar. But secondly, it was I'm me. That's my new book.

I'm me, Cohen. I deserve this.

The actual working title is I is me. I did a special once called I, Martin Short, Goes Hollywood. A little bit of bad grammar is the That's the biggest thing in the world.

That thing is funny. So funny. Now, do you have to have extra security because you work with Selena on set and stuff? Because you guys shoot in New York a lot, which is not fun.

She has a security person. They're We have a security person. But what's amazing is if we shoot on the street, which is not often, but certainly happens a lot. That doesn't make any sense. Not often, but happens a lot. Anyway, Steve and I are working and doing a scene. There might be nine guys there disinterested for about 40 minutes, and then they walk away, and you never, ever see those pictures. When Selena joins us, there's about 120 paparazzi, and they're there All day. And I'm sure they're just waiting for her to fall or stumble or mean that would, therefore, they could make more money from it. So that's been her life. I don't think. And she does have security on the streets. We all do. But she is so lovely with them, and they've been in her life for so long. The only time I ever saw her get a little stern is when they were a little abrupt to this 14-year-old fan of hers, and she never do that. You can't fault her. You really said, Okay, I'll tell you what's really bad about it.

There's no way to- The other thing I do want to talk to her about today is she's the founder of a hugely successful business. Just because we've all grown up with her, I think people think she's younger than she is. I mean, she's a 33-year-old woman running a billion-dollar business.

We once compared each other's networth, and I told her what my networth was, and she went, Oh, that's so cute. It's just adorable.

You guys both wrote it on a piece of paper and just slipped it to each other?

I went like this. Wow. And she went like this. You know what? It's amazing. I've never I've never seen her. I mean, she has literally, I don't know, 490 million Instagram followers. I've never seen her overrun by it all, collapsing from the pressure of it all. And so a question for her might be, is it ever overwhelming and too much? I also think another thing to ask her about her music. She's just massively successful singer-songwriter, but I don't think I ever asked her in detail enough her real early influences and what was the first song that she fell in love with.

I love that. On set, is there singing?

When Jane Lynch was on, there's always singing. Steve sometimes will bring his Banjo. You know what I say about the Banjo? Banjo makes people who play the jug say, Really? But anyway. But no, there's not a lot of singing. There's a lot of gossip. It doesn't have to be true. Yeah, just make it up. You know what I heard?

Okay, I'm going to ask her about her early musical influences. That's a good question, I think. I do want to talk to her about her successful business because I do think that, not to get too heavy, Marty, but in our patriarchal I think we totally, we don't treat female run businesses, especially by young women, especially in the beauty space, as a serious business, and it is crushing everything else.

Let me tell you something. When I look at not only what Selena has done, but what you've done and what Tina has done, I find myself very proud of you, ladies.

Well, that seems weird and patronizing. Proud of us.

I am proud because- Why?

What are you? My dad?

No, I just feel like because you could just be saying you want cream in that coffee, but you're not.

This doesn't feel good.

I'm trying to be as kind as a condescending guy can be.

I love you so much. Thank you.

I remember that, but I will repeat it when we're off. It's from the SNL 50th.

Oh, God, I can't wait. My phone is standing by.

Actually, what is your phone? You have my cell. Yeah, you have mine. What?

I call you? I don't like to talk on the phone. Can you just text it to me?

No, it's too long.

Oh, my God.

What is wrong with the phone with you kids?

I don't I like talking on the phone. A phone call feels- First of all, we're not going to be the length of Shoah.

It was a brief little story.

To me, a phone call is bad news. Why am I on the phone?

No, no, no, no. But it's this, and again, oh, my God, I so don't mean this condescentially negative. But is your thing about the phone because you really don't like it or because you read, Cher doesn't like the phone?

Well, you know that I try to I'm not like anything that Cher doesn't like. I know. You know how I do. I know. You know what? Just snap me. Just Snapchat me.

Okay. You know what? This is too boring. I'm not giving you this information. I can't. Shit. Okay.

I'm calling you right now. I'm calling you right now. Okay. Hanging up so I can get this. Bye. Okay. Love you, Marty. Bye. Bye. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Beauty emergencies are bound to happen. How many times have you, I don't know, dug around in your purse and pulled out mascara and thought it was lipstick? And then all of a sudden you got mascara on your lips and you're like, This is not the look I want to bring to the very fancy dinner party that I'm about to have. So now that Sephora is on Uber Eats, you can get all your beauty essentials delivered in 25 minutes for the same price as in-store. Plus, treat yourself to $10 off when you spend $50 or more on your first Sephora order on the Uber Eats app. Order Sephora on Uber Eats today. Offer ends October 30th, one order per customer. Additional terms apply. See app for availability. Delivery fees may apply.

Selena Gomez is here.

I wanted to start today by saying, I feel like so many people talk to you about the past. They want to talk to you about things that happened, but I want to stay in the present.

Yes.

And talk about the future. I know. Because your present is pretty amazing right now. Thank you so much. Congratulations on the past couple of years.

I appreciate it. Yeah, it's been wonderful. I didn't want people. I genuinely appreciate you saying that because people are going to think I'm permanently anahedonic of just not enjoying anything in life.

Wait, what's that word?

Anahedonic, meaning unable to enjoy things. Wow. And I really wanted... I really love this era, if you will. The past five years have been wonderful.

Super creative for you. Yeah.

It's just been a gift that keeps giving from Only Murders to rare. All of it's just... I have to pensionize sometimes.

We have a lot to talk about because you're running... You founded, created, and you're running a billion dollar business, $2 billion business. You have a huge hit show on the air. You have the love of your life. The past couple of years have felt like they've been this big joyous explosion of things. I always like to ask people, if your Life is a Book, what is the title of this chapter?

Gosh, I want to- Can I pitch you some ideas? Yes.

I would say something really simple but poetic, the best part yet.

The best is yet to come.

The best is yet to come. Or the best is here, babe. Or what is the best? Let me tell you. 33 and feeling free or whatever. But I want to speak to you as a person talking to a deeply successful entrepreneur. I mean, you are You're the founder of a gigantic, successful business that, in my opinion, does a lot of things, gets a lot of things very right. When you were a young person, what was your relationship to makeup and beauty? Did you have a house where people were doing that?

Did you- Yeah, it's actually interesting because my Nana was all about self-care as far as taking good care of your skin. But my mom was a makeup No way. Yes. She worked at Mac, so she had like- She's at the counter. I love it. I think she would give me all of her products that she was done with, and she would do them for her photoshoot in Dallas, Texas, for little things. It was really cool. I remember playing with it a lot. I wasn't allowed to wear it out, and I'm glad, considering the pictures I see now. I just would stick on all the colors, and it just was really fun for me to play with. Now my sister is got to be 13.

I know.

It's so weird, but she's awesome.

12 to 13 is an interesting bridge.

Very. It's so weird. Even her getting her nails done sometimes freaks me out. I'm just like, what?

Also, I noticed that 12, you're still... You'll dance around and be goofy. And sometimes something happens with boys and girls. It's not gendered, where you just start to be conscious of being self-conscious. And you just- Right.

I know. Well, that's what I was going to say is my 12 versus her 12. It is a vast difference. It makes me worried and also encouraged because I have trust in my sister, and she's a very sweet girl. She's very goofy still, so I try to pull that out of her. Yeah.

It's like you want I want to keep the goofiness going for as long as possible. And also that just is at any age, basically, no matter the person. It's a secret to life, but it's so hard to learn, which is if you can just have fun without worrying about what other people think of you. Exactly. That's the power. But it takes so long to learn.

It's true. But she's been like, when you were Joy, it was actually... I really wanted to ask you about that movie because I watched it my sister, and I completely sobbed. Because it is so factual. I almost feel like it should have been a requirement in school to watch that as a homework assignment because I'm so I was so fascinated with the human mind, and it would break my heart. And my sister watched it, and she started crying. Was that just crazy?

Yeah. I think for people listening, I think you're referring- Oh, sorry. No, to Inside Out. And in the The second one, are you talking about inside out, too? Yeah. There's that heartbreak that happens when anxiety moves in, and suddenly the emotion of anxiety moves in. I have to say, same, no matter the age, you're either feeling it in real time as a young person, you're remembering that feeling as a person in your 30s and 40s or 50s or above. You're just remembering that moment when your paint set got some darker colors in Definitely. I mean, it's part of growing up, but it's brutal.

It is. I mean, how is everyone a part of that movie, if you haven't seen it? I know, they're geniuses. I just think it's incredible. And congratulations. I'm going to make my children watch it. Oh, my God.

You're children. I know. I want to see your little babies. I know. I know. I know they don't exist yet, but I can't wait. They don't. I also want to talk to you about a typical day of you running your business because you have basically three to four full-time jobs. Yes. And one would be enough. And you have a lot of full-time jobs. And the great Martin Short, I spoke to him earlier today because we like to talk well behind our guests back, and he's so in love with you. And he was just saying, I never see Selena overwhelmed. She doesn't do that thing, which is like, I can't handle today, right? Even though she's got a million things that she's dealing with at once. What's a typical day like for you?

Well, I love him so much. That isn't always true, though. You're just hiding it. I think it's about Of course, typical answer balance, but it is. When I am doing only murders, it can be 12 to 14 hour days, and it's five days a week. My entire love and attention is focused on that. So when I do get to work on anything film or TV related, I have to have all of my focus there. It does not mean that I am not answering emails. Well, text. I don't like emails.

Oh, my God. Marty- I know. I'm I wanted to talk on the phone. I was like, Are you nuts?

I've turned into Steve and Marty. We'll get there. But I've turned into both of them somehow.

And you're talking on sending faxing?

Yes. And I don't...

Using a file Yeah.

If I have an idea or I smell something or I feel something, I'm super close with Joyce, who basically is my product go-to guru. If I want to create something out of thin air, she, a thousand %, will go there, and it could be a complete failure.

So you can be like, I touched this lemon today. How cool would it be to have a lemon? Do we have a lemon scrub in the line that's So it's interesting or whatever?

Yeah, I definitely will come up with things. What have you come up with that?

You're like, That was good.

Well, when we first started the company, I'd say the blushes were the liquid blushes have been my pride and joy because that was one of the most important moments for Rare. And I think the texture and the way we'd play with it and all the colors, all of it feels like you're a chemist in a way, and you can just feel it and smell it even. I was able to go to Italy where we did most of our products, and it's wild. It's a whole process.

You have tons of different people using the stuff that you make. I was really impressed, and I didn't know this, that you have easily accessible products. They're easy to open. Yes. Why was that important to you? And what do you have to do to make that happen?

So I have a few medical things, but I have arthritis in my fingers, and that's due to my lupus. So I remember before the brand, I was trying to open a water bottle, and it hurt really bad before I was on the right medication. And we somehow inherently made the products easy to open. And then we realized, Wait, they have to be that way. And then we started to make every product with the intention of anybody who have dexterity problems. I know that might seem like a little thing, but it's really not, because it's actually so helpful for anyone at any age to be able to use the products. That's why we want to make them easy and accessible, because it's important to me, and it always has been. Even down to our fragrance, the pump is very easy for me to use.

It speaks to the bigger thing, which is I've just I'm always very moved and impressed by the way that you allow your own challenges, health challenges, to inform your story and your product because it really makes people feel very seen.

Definitely. I think there's There's so much stigma behind so many different illnesses. I don't know. I've been through it, so I think I just know how it feels. And I really want everyone to feel as good as I do now.

Do we have the scent here? Yeah. May I?

Yes, please.

Look, so this is my fake food wall.

I really, really love this. We have some of this at our home. You do? Yeah.

What stuff do you hear? Do you recognize? Okay, already I'm loving this for a couple of reasons.

Okay, basically, Basically, we have orange peels that look so real, and they're all over the house that people keep mistaking them as trash.

And they're fake orange peels? It's art. It's art.

I love it. Might be my fiance's choice.

So, yes. So, yes. But- So, yes. But- But we got to get these orange peels.

But it's like, they're the deal.

And you're like, Okay, I'm afraid people are going to throw them away.

Yeah, multiple people have tried. But Yeah. So can I show you? Yes, please. Basically, so to lock it, it's just that little simple turn to unlock it.

It's that. And what are you calling this fragrance?

This is called rare Eau de Parfum. I learned that. But I just say it's my rare perfume. So you can do it with your hands. You can do it however you feel like if you want to. Oh, it's going to spray right in my eyes.

I can smell it right now.

So I know. I just realized I overdid it. No, no.

Let me take it in.

It will definitely Oh, yeah.

It smells nice.

It'll settle. I honestly can taste it. I'm sorry how many times I spray it. I'm like, it's in my mouth.

You know the very funny bit, which is like, in the '80s, you would spray your clone and then you'd walk through it.

Oh, it's the gentle- Yes. Yes. You'd make it a thing. I think that's what I should have done.

Okay. This smells really good.

Everybody here is like- We're waiting for it to calm down.

Everybody likes the smell in here.

It'll be here for a minute.

I hear we spread it, and then we light it on fire, so we really do some pyro-traffies in here. I got to talk to Marty Short, and He was so nice. He came on this podcast. Here's your first guest. He was my first guest, him and Tina. Him and Steve are heroes of mine, and I'm sure of yours, too. I grew up loving them. But I also have the pleasure and privilege to know that they're really wonderful to work with. When you guys all started working together, and of course, the show was a big, giant hit, and I said, What's it like working with Selena? She seems great, but you never know. Never know. And every report back has been, and always has been, you're such a pro.

My papa used to say, If you are on time, you're already So that means I get to places 30 minutes before or my team has had to trick me because I show up so early, but I like to be prepared and to say hi and not be rushed. The feeling of being rushed is very stressful. But then on top of it, I start working with Steve and Marty, and they really spearhead the whole... They started the pyramid and everything happens. And They are so professional. They make everyone feel good. They lighten up any room, even if it's a serious scene. And that's a huge inspiration to me. And they've been working for so long. And if I'm tired and they're not, sometimes I'm like, whoa, okay, I can do this. I've been very lucky to work with people who are punctual. I just like it because I want everyone to work and have an enjoyable experience.

I don't think people realize in our industry, most jobs, you get in trouble if you're late or you get fired. But in our industry, in the music industry, in the acting and television and film, people sometimes just don't come on time. It's a really weird thing because in almost every other industry, you You can't get away with that.

Yeah, I wonder why.

I have theories. I think sometimes genuinely, the magnanimus theory is that real artists are often in their own creative space, and time management maybe isn't their biggest skill. That's a generous way to think about it. And then the less generous way is, I think, to your about anxiety, for some people, there's just a struggle to figure out the power dynamics. And one way to get power is to make people wait. It's my worst nightmare.

It's my worst nightmare. I honestly would start crying, only because it stresses me out.

It's so stressful.

I don't want to hurt. I guess it wouldn't be hurting people's feelings because they don't probably care about me that way. But But I think it's disrespectful. No, it's not to say everyone live their life the way they want to. But for me, I would feel like a puppy dog with my tail in between my legs the whole day at work if I made the crew wait even 30 minutes. I'd be like, I'm so sorry.

I know. We all make mistakes for humans, but the few times that I've overslept or I cannot tolerate the feeling of knowing people are waiting.

That's It's so nice to know that there's more people like that.

Are you an early to airport person?

No. Oh, what? I don't push it, but I don't like being in an airport because it is, as you can tell, I'm a very anxious person in a way, but I don't know. It gets me over stimulated.

You want to keep walking right on to the plane.

I want to just get there and then get in my little... I like it.

I'm the opposite. I like to get there with plenty of time. Go look at the gate.

Go look at the gate. You have to see. I have to see the gate. That's true. Make sure it's there. Make sure it's there.

Look at the plane. Look at the gate. Very like airport dad. Love that. Go up to the person and be like, Looks like we're taking up on time. I like to kick the tires a little bit. I love that. And have plenty of time to just be a little I'm a hyper vigilant. But I understand. The airport is a nightmare.

It's over-stimulating. But I will say, if I'm at the Dallas airport, I like to take my time. Why? What's the Dallas airport? First off, it's my home. Second, it It's just, I mean, what a burger. They have the best restaurants. It doesn't even feel like you're at an airport.

You could get lost there.

I just want to spend time there. It's a very push and pull thing because it could be over stimulating.

Sometimes I like to try to get my steps in.

Oh, that's clever.

I'm not always thinking too much about my steps, but if I can get them in, the airport is a great place to get them in.

Now, have you seen the people who ride their suitcases? You can do that. There's automatic. Adults who ride their suitcases. I've actually seen it. I do believe you could find it on TikTok or something. Riding the suitcases. It is a grown Yes. I get it for the kids, but it's a little hilarious.

And I don't need to be unfair, but if a man was riding his suitcase, that's a hell no for me. And you're- Yeah, that's so true. Or anyone who brings their own pillow. That's very stressful to me. Adults with their own pillow. That's hilarious. Again, if you need your pillow for support, I understand.

But if you don't- Why are you going to have it?

Okay, so back to Marty. So, Marty, first First of all, what I find so interesting, you have been... This is a really deeply comedic role on a show with deeply comedic people, and it keeps getting recognized by your peers and lauded by critics, and people can't wait for season 5, which is coming out this week. But you have been funny for a very long time.

Oh, God. Thank you. That's a huge compliment.

You were very funny on Wizards.

Thank you. I'm like, what? How have you seen it?

But you've had the chops for a long time. You've had your timing, which is so much... Is such a big Yeah. I can't even get this sentence out. This is how bad my timing is. But it's true. Your timing has always been impeccable.

Thank you. It's because I grew up and should have probably been more outside died, but I grew up watching Will and Grace, Friends, of course. Channel 33 would be Fraser after. Yeah.

I don't. Who are your comedic heroes growing up?

Oh, well, I mean, that's different because I feel like when I have watched... Because I didn't watch stand-up. It was actually introduced to me when I was Probably 18, just because I was this Texas pumpkin that just didn't really know. I think the first one I ever watched was, I believe it was... See, I'm terrible. Oh, Ali Wong, when she was pregnant.

No way. That was your first stand-up special? Yeah.

I just completely lost it. So now it's almost like a morning thing where I'll... Benny will show me some of his favorite comedians. It's actually We have a whole appreciation. And, obviously, for Steve and Marty, knowing their history and their stories, it's pretty inspiring. I don't know how, other than just I watched a lot of TV and I thought about the timing. But I will say Wizards was so fun because I had the room to mess up. And it's okay if it really failed and was cheesy because it was Disney, so it was fine. Yeah. Yeah. This was a bit scarier.

Yeah. I would be intimidated to do a TV show with them, I have to say. They're really deeply funny, and they're really good joke writers.

They're very good.

And they're material. They're always searching for the better joke. It is. They won't rest until they get it.

It's true. Trust me, I will be right in the middle of them figuring it out, and I'm like, It's funny, guys.

It's funny. Guys, we got it. I know. I mean, still, when I work with them or people that are trained in that world, it's still amazing to me how you'll think everything is really ready to go and the best comedians will just keep going.

But do you think up until the very last minute? That is something that I love, though, because it's so fun, but I must have heard their bits a hundred times that I could finish them. But so I just try to at a group hang, I'm just listening and I'm laughing again and doing the whole thing to just be like, wow. And it's the 20th time I've heard them. But it's actually so sweet because they've been best friends for like 35.

Yeah, their relationship is really awesome. Them to watch.

That's so cute. I love it.

And having truly looked up to both of them when I was growing up, I can't believe that I know them. I actually can't believe that they're friends of mine. Who is someone that you can't believe you're friends with?

Yeah. Honestly, them and Meryl. Yes. I can't even imagine. My life is really weird sometimes because we have gotten incredibly lucky with people who love to just come and join our show. We want to create a space where people can have fun. So that's genuinely, I believe and hope, that is the reason people like to come on the show, because we just have fun and you can be a quirky character or be whatever you want. So I feel like I lost track of what I was saying.

Well, I was saying who can you believe your friends with? Merrill.

I mean, yes. I mean, yes. But everyone. Dayvine, I love Michael Creighton. I love Richard Kind. I'm sorry. He's one of my favorite. Bing bong.

I know.

I'm too obsessed with your movie. But- Rich, every time I see Richard Kind, and I've gotten a chance to see him recently, I have this reaction because of his voice, because we never recorded together.

But inside out, he played Bing Bung, an amazing character. Richard is such a big personality.

He's so great.

He's so great. But it's filled with a ton of pathos. You really feel big feelings when you're around Richard.

Definitely. Richard just makes me laugh. He doesn't even try. One time, he had to walk down a hall and open a door, and he just walked all the way down, and we watched him walk past the door that he was supposed to open to go to the next door and knock. And then the other person answered from the other door and looked down the hall, and he goes, Oh, well, I didn't know that. And I was like, Yes, you did. We shot it like 15 times.

And then do you guys improvise? Do you have freedom takes?

We do have freedom takes is what we call them. Freedom takes.

We call them on Parks and Recreation. We call them fun runs.

Oh, that's awesome. I like that. Sounds more fun. Freedom takes. Yeah, freedom takes. That's exactly what Marty will say. He'll be like, Okay, but let's do a freedom take. And then we can have fun and do whatever and try things. It's funny when it's so funny, and then it's hilarious when it doesn't land. Oh, I know. Because they hit it longer. And then no one laughs and you're like, I have a good idea.

I can't wait to bring it out on this freedom take. And then you do it and everyone's like, Moving on.

Yeah. Oh, and it's happened. I equally get it, too, because they're very sweet to me, but the They'll let me know when a joke fails. They're like, That didn't work. I was like, Okay. I really appreciate it.

They're pros. They will not say it's funny if it's not. Okay, we should take a lip bomb break, by the way. Sure.

Do you have your lip? Yeah, I do. Oh. What bomb do you use? You don't know which one?

Well, I mean, I'm sponsored by Lenej.

I see.

Okay. But I could be a sponsor by I'm not.

You're hilarious. I want you to do what your contract says.

My contract as if I have a beauty contract. You know, Selena, my beauty contracts- What do you mean? It's hard to keep them straight.

So I haven't used these because I want you to try this one. Okay.

Oh, these are great. It just feels good. The reviews in, they're great.

If you just let them in.

It a lot. So let's get to Marty's question.

Oh, good grief.

Marty had a question for you, and it was a sweet one, I think, because he was saying, I don't think I talk to Selena enough about her music. She's such a sweet- That's so cute. I know. It's such a cute thing to say. Also, let's point out that both Steve and Marty, on top of being comedic geniuses, are also excellent musicians.

It's true.

But his question was very sweet, which is basically just like... Hold on, let me get it right. Okay. So he said, who were some of your early musical influences, and what was the song that you fell in love with early? I know.

Well, it was interesting because my dad, growing up, was a DJ, so I definitely remember listening to a lot of '90s hip hop. But my mom was very creative. So when she would paint, she'd listen to classical music. When other things were happening, she'd go with the energy. And then on my dad's side, it was a lot of Tejano music. So I loved listening to all styles of music.

What is it about Tejano music that makes it specifically that music? How would you describe it to people who don't listen to it?

I think, well, Linda Ronstert has an incredible album that is in Spanish. And she, to me, since the days of Selena Quintanilla, who popped, made it like a pop version of it. Linda's, I thought, was incredible, too, because it's so musically charged. The instruments make everything sound so grand, and then you feel like you want to move. That's one of the best feelings. Just hearing her, I don't know if you've heard any of that album, but her- I have. She's incredible.

She's so beautiful. She's definitely a voice of my childhood as well. My mom used to play Linda Marcia, and she's just an amazing singer. And you've recorded in Spanish, too. Yeah. Did your voice change when you sing in a different language?

It does. It's so weird. I don't know why. I only have one ERP in Spanish and a few songs I've recorded in Spanish for various things, and I don't know why.

Yeah. It's so interesting. I can imagine because it's like, I don't know. It's yourself, but you're just playing a different version of yourself, a character in a way. Yeah, that's true. And it's so interesting to be singing- A different language.

Yeah. It's really simple. No, it's really funny to me. I don't really get it, but I like it. Yeah.

And you are now living with a musician. Yes. Two musicians. Yes. What's it like in a house with two musicians? Orange peels everywhere.

Well, there's orange peels to go around. Yeah. I'd say he He's obviously, hands down, I hope everyone would agree with me, musically talented in a stratosphere that I couldn't even touch. And it's not because I'm playing down myself. I'm really not. I'm just saying I respect him as an artist, as a producer, as a songwriter, and everything that he does, he puts his whole heart into. I will listen to the same beats over and over and over That's what I imagine is that he's playing a lot of beats. Yeah, he's creating things. I would like to categorize myself more as an actress. So there isn't any competition, I guess. Not that there would be. The last album I released was with Benny, and it was amazing because I was proud of something, and it was mine and ours, and it was fun. But I think I think I really depend on him for any of the tastes, playlists, that stuff.

Congrats on your engagement.

Thank you so much.

And I have to say, the other thing that I've loved watching you over the years, again, not knowing you, but just being like, Oh, cool. Selena's trying this. Your cooking show. I love a cooking show, and I love cooking. And for me, it was a new experience. I didn't really start cooking until I was in my 40s. I didn't really grow up. I had a working mom. We There wasn't a ton of… I didn't cook in the home when I was young, and I had my kids. I was working a lot, and I didn't cook as much. I'm always drawn to people teaching me how to cook and watching people cook. You are, too. What?

This is what I love when people say, You are a chef because you're at a cooking show.

No.

The idea Yes. The idea and the concept of the show is that I simply don't know how. I think over a few seasons, it's safe to say I still don't know how because it was incredible recipes that were so intricate. I think that was very challenging for me. But it was fun because I'd get it right. But it would take me 5 to 7 hours to do it.

But what I liked about it is- It's crazy. You know, basically, to your point, you're watching somebody learn, and you're learning with them. And it's a very nice gesture to be even behind the people watching.

Oh, yeah. That's actually what I do with Benny. Benny feels I don't know if he'd admit this, but he likes when I sit in the kitchen with him because he tells me what he's doing. And I think it's the cuteest thing in the world because I'll sit there and I'm just like, now what? He'll go, so we're going to make sure these are fully chopped, and I'm going to caramelize them, whatever. See, I don't even know the lingo. He's like, I'm going to do this, chop the basil. And then he completely loses himself in cooking. And I love that. I just think it's so endearing.

Well, I think cooking is a good way, speaking of anxiety, for me, it's like a place to put anxiety. Yes. Because it's very low risk, high reward. If it doesn't work out, whatever, you can just order in. I just tried. But if it does, you feel really good about yourself.

You're very proud, for sure. I enjoy cooking. I really do. I just find it very intimidating to do with Vinnie because he He's just really good at it. It's almost just too threatening. So one time I made dinner for my friends, and he got so offended. He was like, Why haven't you done them for me? He was like, dinner? I'm like, Because mine was frozen, and then I added a sauce. He does everything.

You're like, I'm dealing with the sauce. I can't talk to you right now. That's all I got for you.

But I try.

What's a meal that you like, that you know to cook, and you cook?

Oh, my Nana's chicken and Dumpling. It's a very Southern dish. It's very good. It's biscuits and these chicken strips, not just shredded chicken in a soup. It's the best cozy weather- That sounds good. It's so fun.

I love also to zoom out. What was great about that show is it's just you enjoying food. Yeah. Because- I love food. You talk a lot about making sure that you stay healthy.

Yeah.

How has your relationship with food changed?

It hasn't necessarily changed. It's broadened. And Benny has spoiled me a little bit because he's, again, not to talk about it all the time, but he would take a recipe and turn it into something even better. So it's really funny. I'm just totally I'm staring him out right now, but I think he does this thing where he'll say, Wow, this risotto is incredible, and he'll taste it. He'll say, Well, I probably would have added this, but it's very good. I I just think if you put more and then you see how this is set in, and I just like to stare at him because it's so cute.

He's constantly tweaking it.

Yeah. He always says he can make it better. And it's not a lie. It's just the most adorable thing. He's going to be like, what?

It's a very sweet... Making food for someone is a really tender act. It is a really loving act.

It's really a very kind act. I just get sometimes stressed because he doesn't need to do it. But he reminds me, like you said, it's very therapeutic for him.

At least I can speak for me where you just start thinking, What do I want to make tonight? Okay. And your brain, your high... Your anxiety brain, your squirrel brain needs to land on something, and then it can land on a list, and it can think about timing, and it can think. It has to click, clack away on something. If it's just the meal that night, it can be really helpful. It's also done. There's something about finishing that thing that you were- It's a I have a feeling of accomplishment, and I totally get that.

It's the same feeling as me watching TikToks of people cooking. Those are my favorite. Me too. I love it. I just appreciate it so much And then they're so interesting from different cuisines around the world. And it's just really... Yeah, that's me. That would be my feed for sure. Do you go on TikTok?

Because that must be treacherous.

No. So I actually haven't been on TikTok. That's great.

I'm sorry, TikTok, but we need a break.

No, it's okay. We need a break. All social media platforms, I'm sure, hate me at this point because I'm always like, I don't know. It's very could be scary.

You have 400 million Instagram followers.

So it's fine.

I mean, it's fine.

Well, no, I'm just saying I get so awkward about that because I don't understand it sometimes. It's just a very interesting thing.

Because My experience with social media, I think, is we may share a similarity, which is that I feel it's treacherous, but it can be to your point, you can find ways to feel connection.

Definitely. I think it's important for that element for me to have a connection with just my community. I'm not sure I'll always be that way forever, but I think right now it's been a great resource for me to connect with people. I have not been on social media for a few months now. Even when I post, sometimes it's just to make sure it's on my post and feed, and then I don't look at anything.

Well, you've been very generous in sharing your life with people.

You said, This is happening, and I feel good about it. I like doing it my way. I think if I were to get into something... Sorry, I'm all over the place. I also just want be able to know, if it didn't come from me, it's 90 % false or anything. I just love being able to say this is where I am, and I'm enjoying it, and I'm willing to share that part of my life. Maybe it'll change, but I enjoy it.

Yeah. And then it leads me to one of our last questions, which is basically energy, giving it, getting it. It sounds like for every person in their 30s, I would say. It's one of the big lessons is figuring out, okay, if your 20s is trying to figure out what you don't want to do and who you don't want to be, then your 30s become like, okay, let's give energy to the things that I want to have grow.

Of course.

What have you learned about self-care and boundaries and all this way in which you can be open about your life, or you can share the things that you're happy about, and you can feel the love and support from people who have supported you but still keep your energy and boundaries?

I definitely don't read anything. I don't have comments enabled on my page, just simply Because I want it to be fun for me. I don't need anything else other than just me wanting to share that with the world. Oh, sorry. That's my ride, guys.

Wait, this is why Selena is such a pro, is that she just stopped talking during a siren. You just go looking for trouble.

I don't think it's healthy. So I'll say on the social part, if you're depending on it, it's really scary. But have a healthy relationship with it. I think it's important. But, yeah, I don't let anything in that I don't need because it's not where I am.

And you spoke about karma earlier. What's amazing about the work that you do is you give a lot back. You give a lot of your time, and you give a lot of your money. In many ways, time can be harder to give than money, and you give both. You have for a very long time, you toured with UNICEF for many, many years. You were an ambassador. Where Beauty gives a ton of money. I was really impressed with what you guys do with your- That's also the community because one % of products.

So again, it's people contributing to helping- It's awesome. Young people have access to mental health.

When you are one-on-one dealing with someone, you've now been famous for a really long time, and you have a lot of people who grew up with you and feel really invested in you. And that's energy, right? Yes. They want to connect with you. You feel that. I know you've been extremely loving and very supportive of people, but it's a lot to be approached sometimes. Times with a lot of energy. So what do you say no to now that you didn't before, or how do you guard your own energy?

It's very difficult for me to say no to people that I get to encounter. If it's my Nana taking her 14th picture of my outfit, I'm like, I can't do this. Please stop. I got to go.

I You got to make your doubling. You got to make your doubling.

But I don't think... I don't know how to answer that.

Well, I mean, maybe it's just become intuitive and also feels... May I answer for you?

Well, let me... Yeah, because I'm thinking.

Well, because I feel protective of you. Because as a woman who is older, and I think any woman in their 30s, I think, is doing that thing where they're trying to figure out basically what is expensive for me with energy. Basically, you start protecting it.

It is. I think that'll happen more so when I have kids. I'll probably put more boundaries up for the sake of the sanity of what that will look like. I have no idea. But I feel like I owe a lot of people in the world any smile, hug, picture. So it's very hard. When I don't do it, I promise you it's because I'm either really having a hard time dealing with my anxiety or I'm late. That's usually, which I'm trying not to be. Never late. But if I have to go somewhere. But in general, it's a lot because I love doing it. I I think about it too much where I'll think about if I missed that one person. It could get crazy in my head.

It can. It could be a little crazy making. And Marty said something really sweet, which is like, when you guys shoot in New York, and there's whatever, shooting in New York, just like living in New York, is just you're constantly on display, and people will take photos. And he said, Selena really understands that that's part of the exchange, and it doesn't really bother her unless anyone is rude to anybody. Oh, yeah. You get very mama-ish about that.

I get very, yeah. I actually, that was probably one of the pictures from season 2. Someone said a vile word to someone else. It was a photographer, thankfully not a fan of the show. But I just looked at him and I gave him the finger and there's just one shot of me and he missed it. So he wasn't even the one that got it because I looked at him and I was just like... The other people started laughing and I was like, I don't even care. I can't tolerate that stuff. But then they want that reaction. So then I'm like, get it.

I know they're baiting you, but you're a human being. I have one finger in 33 years.

There's probably been a couple more.

We could probably find them. It's fine. Okay, so I always ask my guests this, what stuff are you listening to right now, watching, reading that makes you laugh? Because you've had in a beautiful couple of years, and also in the midst of... There's a lot of heaviness in the world. We're all in different spaces and places, and you've provided a lot of comedy for people who really want it. Your show provides that for a lot of people. Who does that for you? Who you?

Well, it's more so the experiences I have. I love encountering silly moments and spontaneity because I don't have a lot of that in my life because I try to schedule everything. So whenever something is spontaneous or even just being on Only Murders, as long as we work, It's those are the joyous making someone laugh or just having your partner laugh with you and you're watching a movie together.

What movies made you laugh lately?

Lately? Friendship.

Oh, yeah. Are you a Tim Robinson fan? Yes. I love Tim Robinson so much.

It was hilarious. It was so funny because a lot of mixed emotions for people, but I was just like, this is just so funny because how broad it is.

Him and Paul read it. They're great. And also Tim Robinson is the best insane.

I mean, it's like, where does he come up?

My kids are obsessed with Tim Robinson.

Oh, that's awesome.

And have you watched his TV show?

No. Oh. Yeah, that's what I need to get on.

You're going to love it.

It's because I- I think you should leave.

I think it's three seasons. Okay.

It's That's so funny. That's what I'll be doing now. I love it. I love it. But I'm also a big... Lately, we've seen all the horror films.

Okay, you like to be scared?

I loved We weapons. Oh, yeah. That one, that movie. Oh, thank you. I know. I know.

I just don't like to be scared. No, but I heard it's amazing.

About 70% of the people in my life loathe the fact that I watch it.

I saw the thing with the children running in. I was like, That's a hell no for me. No way am I going to the movie. Like, Two tickets, please. No way. I know. No way. I know.

It's such a weird thing. But you like being scared a little bit. I do. But I like things that are interesting mentally. Not a lot of gore, but I guess there is.

You want Do you want like an intriguing, suspensful- Yeah, give me the jump scares every now. What's your favorite horror movie or one of your favorites?

All time?

What do you like?

I would say, I I don't know. I really loved... I'm trying to think. Barbarian. Oh, yeah. The same director. The first Conjuring was really one that I'll never forget because I was terrified.

If you don't watch it, then you never have to forget it. Yeah, that's true.

That's true. So I would say one of those for sure. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I think you should leave is so great. You'll love it. I highly recommend. Watch one horror movie and then watch six episodes. A deal.

Because that's how we I do have to watch something nice after.

Yeah, to cleanse the palate.

But no, I have to. And you're not the only person, so I'm like, I need to have a new show to just laugh at.

Well, thank you so much for coming.

I'm so happy that I got to do this. Thank you so much for having me.

Of course. It's a pleasure. And truly, congrats on all the good stuff that's coming your way. And can't wait for what's ahead. I mean, Future Only, babe.

Yeah. Oh, that's the name of the book.

Future. Future Only, babe. Babe. Past is the past. Robots. Robots.

Robots.

Lip bomb.

Tech. All of it. Tech.

All of it. That's all your next chapter. Tech. All of it. Tech. All of it. And then just blank pages. And then you just have your grandmother's recipe.

I love it. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. It's so great. Thank you so much, Selena. Wow. You're just a total Beach, and it was really nice talking to you. And for this Polar Plunge, I just wanted, in the spirit of what Selena does, right? She just gives back, and she really tries to make sure that she's donating her time and energy to people who need it. I just wanted to say that I've been working a lot with Blood Cancer United, and they help patients who are dealing with cancer, all different kinds of blood cancers. September is Childhood Cancer Month. Look, there may be some people listening right now who are dealing with it, who have experience with it, but there's just that moment when you really need support and love. The people at Blood Cancer United definitely provide that, among many other things, resources, information. I don't know. I just feel very moved by the way Selena uses her platform in an attempt to do that today, I would encourage you all to go to bloodcancerunited. Org and donate what you can. It makes a big difference, especially in these times. Thank you so much for listening to this episode.

Thank you, Selena, for coming, and we'll see you soon. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weis-Burman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya Elea Zanaris. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovelle, and Jenna Weis-Burman. Original music by Amy Miles. All I ever wanted was a really good hang.