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We are going to destroy their missiles and raise their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally obliterated. We're going to violate their navy. We're going to ensure that the region's terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize the region or the world. The President urgent Iranians to use the moment to overthrow the Ayatollah. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours take. This will be probably your only chance for generations. Also in this podcast, the Israeli military says Iran is trying to retaliate. There have been explosions in Bahrain, where the US has a Navy base. We'll bring you international reaction to the strikes, plus reporting from our correspondence in the region and analysis from our team, including experts from BBC Persian. It was a little before 10: 00 on a bright Tehran morning when the first missile struck arriving out of a clear blue sky. Blasts were heard in cities across Iran as the United States and Israel carried out multiple strikes. In a video message on social media, President Trump accused the Iranian regime of waging an unending campaign of bloodshed and mass murder targeting the United States. The United States military has undertaken a massive and ongoing operation to prevent this very wicked, radical dictatorship from threatening America and our core national security interests.

We are going to destroy their missiles and raise their missile industry to the ground. It will be totally, again, obliterated. We're going to violate their Navy. We're going to ensure that the region's terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize the region or the world. He had this warning for members of the Iranian security forces. To the members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the armed forces, and all of the police, I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons and have complete immunity or in the alternative, face certain death. He urged the people of Iran to use the opportunity to overthrow the Ayatollah and his regime. To the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the The power of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don't leave your home. It's very dangerous outside. Boms will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be Probably your only chance for generations. The Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, also had a message for the people of Iran. Together with the United States, we will strike the terror regime harshly. We will create the conditions that will allow the brave Iranian people to rid themselves of the burden of this murderous regime.

This is your chance to establish a new and free Iran. Take your fate into your own hands. Raise your head, lift your eyes to the sky. Our forces are there, pilots of the free world. Everyone is coming to your aid. Help has arrived. Reaction from inside Iran itself has been limited as there are restrictions on communications in place. But earlier, the BBC spoke to Faoud Izzadi, who's at Tehran's University. I'm in Tehran, and we are hearing Israeli bombs falling in the city. Everybody is covering it, all news channels, all television stations. You don't have to watch television. You can just hear the bombs falling off the sky. Hamed Reza Gholamzadeh, who works for a think tank on Iranian foreign policy in Northern Tehran told us what he has heard. I hear in the morning the sounds of the fighter jets. After a while, we had reports of some explosions in the downtown. Right now, I'm in my office in northern part of Tehran, in which about a whenever ago, I heard two more explosions. When the news came out yesterday about President Trump saying that he wants a deal with Iran, Many people were saying that it seems to be dangerous and it seems to be a cover for possible attacks against Iran.

And we see that it seems to be true about the distrust that they have in the United States. What is Iran's opposition saying? Reza Palavi is the son of Iran's last Shah and is a leading critic of the Iranian regime. He's currently in exile in the US and addressed the Iranian people directly. Now that the Islamic Republic is collapsing, my message to the country's military, police, and security forces is clear. You've sworn an oath to protect Iran and the Iranian people, not the Islamic Republic and its leaders. Your duty is to defend the people, not a regime that's taken our homeland hostage through repression and crime. Join the people and help bring about a stable and secure transition. Otherwise, you will go down with Khamani's sinking ship and his regime. Khahid Shahd. To find out more about the reaction inside Iran, I spoke to Jia Gold from BBC Persian. The footage we are receiving from inside the country and the voices we hear from the people in the street all indicates there has been a massive attack on many different locations in Tehran and several cities across the country. In one video, a lady was shouting, The office of the Supreme Leader hit.

Another woman joyfully said, Finally, he was hit. It all indicate the mood in Iran for so many people who just more than a month ago, thousands of people, thousands of protester were killed and gunned down, and so many people are not happy with the situation in the country. But of course, there are also many people who are afraid of the war. They don't know what is the outcome. Just a few minutes ago, Iranian officials said 18 students have been killed in the city of Minab. What we are We're seeing also, we see the anti-riot police and security forces also being deployed to different locations in the city in Tehran. But it is not just Tehran, which witnessed so many explosions and airstrike. Also in several cities, in the border city of Karmansha, we know from last year, there are numbers of missile launching sites there that have been also attacked. It seems what we are hearing from them, and what we are hearing from on the ground, also they are targeting revolutionary guards bases in different cities, in small towns, in hopes that some of those people come out to the street, so rise up against the government.

This is a joint operation between the US and Israel. The US will have access, presumably, to the intelligence of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency. The US has indicated this is about regime change. What are the chances that the Ayatollah will have been hit by any of these strikes? I think we know they were expecting some attack. We know from the last year also when he was the target of Israeli airstrike, he was moved to the safe and underground bunker. That was what we are hearing. That's what we were expecting. Yes, his office may have been hit, but most likely, he has been moved to a safe place. But what we are hearing from President Trump, if you would have asked me before President President Trump's speech today, what is the purpose of this attack? I might say, you know what? Maybe this is a limited attack against Iran to get more concession on a negotiation table. But what he said to this, it was clearly a declaration of war And for the first time, very clearly, President Trump said they want regime change in Iran. That's why he said after the bombing is finished, people should come out and finish the government.

And so many people inside the country are not happy with the situation. The economy is crippling. Iran is isolated. And also the regime has lost legitimacy within even their own supporters because the killing of thousands of people just less than two months ago. The Mossad, of course, do have extraordinary good contacts inside Iran, don't they? If we judge based on last year, 12 days war with Israel and the assassination of Iranian officials, Iranian scientists, Iranian missile scientists, I think Israel has infiltrated Iranian security forces in the highest level. Even one of the former intelligence minister, he has said to the Iranian official that Mossad is closer to our ears than anything else. J. R. Gole from BBC Persian. Our Middle East analyst, Sebastian Asha, gave us his assessment of the unfolding situation. We've just had the Israeli military saying that it launched hundreds of attacks on targets in Iran. What we don't know from Iran at the moment, there's lots of rumors obviously flying around, lots of videos of smoke rising from various areas, particularly in the capital, whether members of a leadership, the political, the military leadership, have been targeted successfully. There does seem to be a sense that that was what the Israeli mission may have been to some extent.

We know that the US is also very much trying to target the offensive capability of Iran in terms of its ballistic missiles. But we're seeing in comparison to the 12-day war back last June between essentially Israel and Iran with US involvement at the end, which is about its nuclear weapons, its nuclear program potentially leading to a nuclear weapon, that Iran has responded more quickly, more widely. I mean, it has fired several volleys towards Israel so far. A number of missiles have been intercepted, but Israel very much on alert across the whole of the country. We're waiting to see if any of Iran's proxies in the region take action. They've all been markedly weakened over the past year and a half. Hezbollah, the Houthi's, Iranian-affiliated militias in Iraq. One of those groups in Iraq has said that it will target US military bases soon. They didn't do that in the 12-day war. Hasbuna, there is going to be a speech made by the leader of Hasbuna in a few hours. We'll see what he says, but I think it's pretty clear that the capabilities of Hasbuna, much less than they were two years or so ago.

Also, again, Hezbollah didn't fire or carry out any military attack or intervention during that 12-day war last summer. Those are big questions. Then how these Gulf-Arab countries, which have come under attack. I mean, it's almost certainly the US military bases in the region that are the target. But how they will respond. We've heard from Jordan, I think we've heard from a couple of other Gulf countries that they are ready to take whatever military action they deem necessary. I mean, clearly, they do not want to get involved in any direct military confrontation with Iran if they can avoid it. Their voices were very strong in trying to dissuade the US from taking this action. And Where we are as far as the US is concerned, most people who've been following this will now have heard most of what President Trump had to say in his eight-minute address. That had several messages, part of it very similar to what we heard last year about the nuclear program, about Iran's nuclear ambitions, obliterating that, but also talking about obliterating ballistic missiles in the Navy. But I think more so than anything else, calling on the Iranian people to rise up.

Yes, Seb, I mean, Iran's response now. We have had reports of retaliatory strikes Just take a listen to this, of course, multiple explosions in Bahrain, where the US Navy Fifth Fleet is based. We had this voice note from a mother sheltering with her children. Hi, I'm here in Bahrain in the Sahra area. It is a painfully beautiful day, but everybody, of course, is sheltering inside after several air raid sirens have gone off. Lately, after we had the reports of the bombings on the US bases, about 30 minutes afterwards, we had Another set of what sounded like bombs going off. We had a couple that were near enough to shake our house. Do keep in mind, Burien is a very small country, and so everyone is pretty packed together here. One area being targeted puts civilians at risk. There's a lot of fear. I've got my kids sitting under the dining room table watching cartoons, and that's what I'm hearing from most of the mums across the country, that they're just doing everything they can to keep everyone calm. And we'll wait. Sebastian, you can hear the terror in her voice, and what she's worried about is what many people are worried about, that this is going to turn into a much bigger regional conflict.

I mean, that's what Iran had been threatening during the resumption of the talks as the military buildup, this massive military buildup by the US was taking place. I mean, its capability of setting off a regional confluxation which actually involved a direct military country conflict with those Gulf countries, with other Arab countries in the region, I think is still relatively slim. I mean, it depends obviously, to some extent, on where Iran chooses to attack next. If it has that capability, oil installations, of course, the economic lifeblood of those countries, that would then represent a major risk. Whether those countries, such as Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, as you were hearing there, then feel that their direct military involvement would be necessitated or they would leave it to the US and essentially Israel to continue, I think is a question that at the moment I'd say that they would do the latter if they can, rather than getting directly militarily involved, where they don't have the strength, to be brutally honest, as the US and Israel clearly have, so they might leave it to that. That actually was reflected in an interview we had a little earlier.

Lord Peter Rickets, he's a former UK National Security Advisor. Just take a listen to this. He was quite skeptical that Iran was planning an imminent attack. My interpretation of this word preemptive is that the Israelis preempted any risk that the US-Iranian negotiations were going to reach some deal on the nuclear program. It reminds me very much of June last year when the same again, the Americans were negotiating intensively with the Iranians. The Israelis interrupted that by striking, and they drew the Americans into action. That has happened again. Trump, of course, has built up this enormous military presence. He created a momentum. Once Israel started attacking Iran, I think it was impossible for the Americans to stand aside, but there's absolutely no clarity what the real political objective here is. It's very dangerous to launch military action because you got the military forces, you don't really have the option of standing aside, but with objectives which can't be achieved by military strikes, obliterating the missiles, preventing Iran from using its regional proxies. These are not achievable objectives. We're in a dangerous phase where the Iranians are bound to retaliate and try and strike some quite hard blows, I think.

Lord Rickets, and before him, our Middle East analyst West, Sebastian Asha. Iran launched retaliatory strikes targeting both Israel and US military bases in the Middle East. Our correspondent, Barbara Platt-Asha, told us more from the Qatari capital, Doha. We just heard another around Sound of explosions here echoing across Doha. The Qataris are saying that they have intercepted several waves of missiles now. Up until just a little while ago, they were saying there had been no damage so far. They have sent out push alerts to our phones, to the phones of everyone in Qatar, telling them to lay low, to seek shelter, and to stay indoors. The traffic on the roads have not entirely stopped, but it has reduced quite significantly. We are hearing similar reports from around the region, from the United Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain, saying that they are getting incoming Iranian missiles and that they are intercepting them, except in the case of Bahrain, there was an announcement that the missile had hit the US Navy base there. That's the US Fifth Fleet base in Bahrain. Again, they extended the damage there are not entirely clear. In the United Arab Emirates, the government said that one civilian, one citizen, had been killed, apparently, from falling debris, although that is not entirely clear either.

Some of the governments have said they reserve the right to respond. I think that they would calculate very carefully about what impact that might have and whether it would suit their interests to do so. This is exactly the outcome that they have been trying so very hard to prevent over the past weeks, trying to mediate between the Iranians and the United States, warning about the dangers of a conflict in Iran, warning that it could spread to the region and destabilize it. It's clear now that the Trump administration has not listened to its Arab allies' public efforts anyway on this issue, rather to, it seems, its Israeli allies. And so the Arabs are going to be watching very carefully and taking whatever measures they can to prevent the conflict from destabilizing the wider region. It's interesting you say that, Barbara, because Oman's foreign minister has said that they are dismayed after the attacks between Israel and Iran. As you mentioned there, a lot of effort has gone in, particularly by Oman, to try and mediate some agreement between the two sides. While that effort was taking place, clearly, planning kept going for these attacks. Yes. The Iranians had expressed skepticism all along, and even now when the attacks took place, said, Look, we expected there would be attacks.

You've attacked us before during negotiations, but we went along with them anyway. And so they were making preparations as well, having very little faith in the whole negotiating process. But the Omanis who were mediating did pull out all the stops. The Omaniform Minister, having gone to the United States on a sudden trip this week to try to urge the administration to continue with the negotiations and saying that they were making significant progress. He called it a breakthrough. He said that the Iranians had agreed that they would move all the stockpiles of enriched uranium out of the country, that this was a really important move and that it could be built on over a period of time to actually get an agreement. Again, that intervention failed. The planning for this military operation is clearly It's been in place for some time, and now President Trump has decided to go ahead with the aim of regime change, which is, frankly, the most drastic outcome that could have been the case. There was questions about what an Israeli US military operation might involve? Would it be limited strikes to force the Iranians further along in the negotiations? Would it be strikes on just military targets like the ballistic missiles sites, the nuclear sites?

But no, Mr. Trump has made it clear that they're going further than that. Again, that is a source of concern for the Arab neighbors or the Arabs in the Gulf, because who knows what will come afterwards and whether they will be subject to flows of refugees and weapons coming across the borders if the worst case scenario comes true. Barbara Platt, usher. She was talking to Mariam Mashiri. We have more on this on our YouTube channel. Search for BBC News on YouTube, and you'll find Global News podcast in the podcast section. There's a news story available every weekday. Still to come in this podcast, The View from Israel and the Internet Blackout That's Also Hitting the People of Iran. We focus on the part of the Internet that most people don't know about. It's called the Dark Web. Undercover in the furthest corners of the Dark Web. Us Special Agents are on a mission to locate and rescue children from abuse. Moving in now. From the BBC World Service, World of Secrets, the Darkest Web follows their shocking investigations. Listen on bbc. Com or wherever you get your BBC podcasts. What happens when a mandate becomes a breakthrough?

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He says that he expects this campaign to be a violent one, but ultimately, he expects it to be successful. You can compare and contrast that with what we've heard from another Republican, a congressman, Thomas Massey, who is a critic of Donald Trump. He has called this an act of war unauthorized by Congress. Certainly, there had not been a congressional vote on any of these strikes. It's just some other reaction to bring you now. Roe-khana, he is a Democratic lawmaker, and he has called for a vote on Monday. He said that lawmakers must come to Washington. They must vote on this. They must put their names on the records with regards to where they stand on these strikes. Then we've also heard from the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, that is Mark Warner. Essentially, what his message has been in a statement is he says that we have heard claims of urgency of American intelligence before, clearly referencing previous wars, Iraq, for example, being one of them, and saying that the President must answer questions with regards to the objective here, basically saying if President Trump can come out and put a video on his social media platform, an eight-minute video, in which he has warned that there could be American casualties.

That justification needs to be there. Now, certainly, we know that Donald Trump has spoken not just about a failure of a nuclear deal, but he has also spoken about ending what he calls a campaign of bloodshed against Americans. But in terms of that objective, he also spoke to the Iranian people, didn't he? He said, Stay inside for the time being, but when it is safe to do so, come out, rise up, topple the Iranian regime. I think the greater backdrop to all of this is what we had seen in recent weeks when we had seen that brutal crackdown on protesters in Iran, and Donald Trump had said to them, Help is on the way, prompting many people to ask in recent weeks, Well, where is that help? Donald Trump, clearly there, speaking to the Iranians as well, saying, This will be your opportunity. Helena Humphrey. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the operation would remove what he called the existential threat posed by Iran. Our correspondent, John Donison, is in Jerusalem. He clearly thinks that Iran is a problem for Israel that needs to be got rid of. And today, it does seem like America and Israel are taking steps to do that.

When you listen to that message from President Trump a little earlier, what he was talking about there is when this military operation is finished, he wants the Iranian people to rise up and take over the government. They want regime change in Iran, saying that this was a once in a generation opportunity. Here in Jerusalem, we've had the sound of sirens going off, loud explosions directly overhead our hotel in Jerusalem. I looked up to see what appeared to be a missile or projectile being shot down by Israel's missile defense shield a couple of hours ago. And further to the west in the big cities of Tel Aviv and high from the Coast, also explosions there. So Iran's retaliation has very much begun. How extensive and how long it will go on for? Well, we're just going to have to wait and see. And we've heard from an Israeli official that the Iranian Supreme Leader, Khamenei, and the President, Pezashkian, were both targeted by Israel. What more do we know about that? Well, we don't know much. The Iranians are saying that neither of them were hurt. We understand that the Supreme Leader has been taken to a safe place away from the capital.

That's what's coming out of Iran. Certainly, that is a pretty big step. If Israel and America are trying to decapitate the Iranian regime and remove the Supreme Leader, that is a A huge move, really, which is going to bring an enormous response from the Iranians, one would imagine. We had that war last year, lasted about 12 days between Israel and Iran, and then we had a strong response from the Iranians. We had casualties here in Israel. Depending on how long this operation by the Americans, by Israel and Iran goes on, we're going to have to wait and see what the extent of the Iranian response is going to be this time. Their military capabilities have been hugely diminished in recent years because of those various conflicts, but they still have the capacity to hit all parts of Israel pretty hard. John Donovan speaking to the BBC's Marion Mashiri. Iran is now under an internet blackout, according to Netblocks, an internet monitoring agency. My colleague Merlin Thomas from BBC Verify told me more. There is a near total internet blackout with national connectivity at about 4%, and Netblocks, this International Watchdog of Internet Connectivity has basically published this graph showing a steep fall in the Internet connectivity in Iran.

This isn't the first time we've seen this. It was just in January, just a few weeks ago, that we saw a near total Internet blackout during the nationwide protests, and that remained in place for weeks. It meant that it made it really difficult to get any information out of Iran. It meant that any videos, information, messages that were being sent were being sent through other methods, such as SpaceX's Starlink, that's a satellite Internet method that people are using, or VPN. Those are virtual private networks. It's likely that those who have access to those methods will try to use them again this time around. But it does make it very difficult to find out exactly what's happening inside the country. As we're continuing to verify video, we're just seeing when these videos first emerged. Merlin, what is the purpose of the blackout? It's not clear yet. Obviously, the first time this happened earlier on this year, it seemed to be an government-imposed internet blackout. It's still unclear whether the same thing has been done in this case. We've had no reports as of yet that their connectivity issues are due to strikes, but that could very well be the case, but it also could be government-imposed.

We're still waiting to see. As I said, it still makes it very difficult to actually find out the causes of that. Bbc Persians' GR goal shared his own perspective on the shutdown. Last year, when they shut down the internet, one of the main reason the Iranian regime did that was because Israeli trucking some of the officials, whether there was a bodyguard, their family members, and they located them and tracked them down and they hit their location. That was one of the main reasons. But I think this time around, most likely, the Iranian regime also worried about its own people they might rise up. We know less than two months ago when there was a mass protest in Iran, the regime completely reduced its speed of internet totally or shut it down in order people not to be able to organize and call on each other to come to the street. But one thing for fact I know is in the last month, scores of Starlink, satellite dishes, and router has been smuggled into Iran. J. R. Goal from BBC Persian. Let's end this special edition of the Global News podcast with the thoughts of our chief international correspondent, Lise Douzet, who's recently returned from Iran.

This is a confrontation which is very different from what happened last year, where, at least when it came to the region, Iran carefully telegraphed its attacks, took care to minimize the risk of causing American casualties. Iran had warned that this time it would not hold back and that all of US military bases across the region, including US military personnel, there's more than 40,000 across the region, would be at risk. President Trump himself acknowledged in his eight-minute video that there would possibly be the loss of American lives. But he made it clear that America, as he saw it, was under threat, and he was ordering this war to commence. A military operation that the Pentagon has codenamed Epic Fury. Lise, in his long announcement, President Trump said that regime change was very much on the table. What does that look like in your view? You were just in Iran in the past few weeks. Is your sense that this is going to target the Iatollah, the Supreme Leader, the IRGC? How far do you think this could go? Yes, President Trump and US Commander-in-Chief, we've often reported on on BBC, that he has sent conflicting messages about whether this was about Iran's nuclear program, that Iran should not have a nuclear weapon, or that it was about broader regime change.

He named all of these reasons this morning in that first post. History tells us that there has been, there's been no example of a government, an order being brought down by airstrikes alone. But President Trump has repeatedly said that he wants to keep his troops out of forever wars. He doesn't want to put boots on the ground. He made it clear that it would be up to the Iranian people to do that. Remember, during the protests of last month, he called on them to take control of your institutions. Well, the Iranians saw that when they take to the streets, that the security forces have lethal force, that they're able and willing to use. The death toll is in the many thousands. It's still being counted. There are still people, there are still families who don't know the fate of their loved ones. So it is a very unpredictable and a very perilous time. And this time, President Trump, unlike the lead up to the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, he didn't go to the UN Security Council. He didn't try to build a coalition in the region. He is doing this just with Israel.

He seems to believe that and history is on his side, but we have seen no evidence that this preemptive attack described by Israel, that there was an imminent Iranian threat on Israel or on the United States. So a new war has been unleashed, and this morning in these early hours, no one can say with certainty when and how it will end. Lise Douzet talking to Samantha Simmons. That's all from us for now. If If you want to get in touch, you can email us at globalpodcast@bbc. Co. Uk. You can also find us on x@bbcworldservice. Use the hashtag #globalnewspod. Don't forget our sister podcast, The Global Story, which goes in-depth and behind the headlines on one big story. This edition of the Global News podcast was mixed by Philip Bull, and the producers were Pete Ross and Peter Hyatt. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Alex Ritz, and until next time, goodbye. We focus on the part of the Internet that most people don't know about. It's called the Dark Web. Undercover in the furthest corners of the Dark Web, US Special Agents are on a mission to locate and rescue children from abuse. Moving in now.

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