Transcript of Fantasy Draft Re-Do + Hungry For More, TNF Preview - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/9

Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your host, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

Oh, welcome in. Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, the fantasy footballers podcast, back with you today. The Cardboard Bear Extraordinaire.

Jay Rizler.

Jay Rizler with us on this fine Wednesday.

He's looking good today, particularly good today.

I was realizing, Mike, that with Jason out the rest of the week, Jay Gris, a. K. A. Jay Rizler, is going to need to wear the clown wig. You are correct.

Sorry, Jay.

Rules are rules. I don't know how that's going to affect his Riz. You know what I mean?

I don't know. We'll see. A big furry grizzly bear in a clown wig? It could work.

It could work.

Wednesday- I won't be wearing a clown wig. I'll tell you that much.

October ninth, no. Joe Burrow was pretty good. Yes, he It was. You see, I will be, and that is due to the fact that the eight targets for Zekrunt's eight.

I was tracking.

Two catches. I don't know if you saw the play in the middle of the game, too. Earths had a big time play that Jaden Daniels missed him on. But today is Wednesday. We have NFL news to talk about, some big injury news. Hungary for more on today's show. We are doing a fantasy draft redo. Two rounds today. Kyle, the Borgogan will join us. It's almost like giving you a rest of season rankings for the first 24 players because we're going to give it another shot, Mike.

Yeah. And usually, I'm really excited for this episode. It's a fun look. It's where guys were at the beginning. You got to change your opinion, call your shots on rest of season. But these are catty-wampists of superstars. And I don't know if a redraft happened right now, you would take them in the first two rounds.

We'll talk about them. It's extra difficult this year. I think with some of the situations, injury-wise, it is extra difficult for sure. And it'll be fun. I don't know. I've got my list put together. You've got your list. Kyle has his. And I'm not sure how aligned they're going to be because of what you're saying.

We're going to be doing it live, on the fly.

Yeah, we're doing it today. So fantasy draft redo coming up. You can check out the tools, resources available to you at jointhefoot. Com. I did see the current Megalibull leader. I want to shout it out. Over 20,000 of you playing in this year's Megalobull. Garbage time.

Oh, the garbage.

Garbage time.

The Garbage Man, I feel like it's not shown up in a long time.

Yeah, we forget about it. That's good stuff. We need to get that back. The Garbage Man dropped. But no, Garbage Time has 817 points. My streak ended finally. I am nine and one now in the middle of the ball.

Okay, that's still pretty good.

I'm pretty disappointed. Missed the median.

How's the Falcon Dump doing?

It's dumping. Oh, no. She rise. Yeah, that'll hurt. That'll hurt. So congrats, Garbage You're in the lead right now. All of the weekly rankings of Starts It tool on the website, thefantasyfootballers. Com. New dynasty podcast out today, if you want to check that out. I know you guys were talking about... What, Stefan Diggs came up on the show?

We were talking Just some guys that we, at this point, would be looking to trade for, trade away.

To make a run in a dynasty League?

Yeah. Always a little difficult because dynasty is so specific to just your particular league, the the way that teams are shaped up and if they have these players or not. But it was an excellent episode, a lot of good discussions. Then one of the guys we talked about, Tony Pollard was a running back I brought up that I think is a good trade target if you're making a push, because of just every cost versus upside. Right after, Matthew Betz, by the end of the show, had pulled off a trade for him at slightly under the value we were talking about. So these things are happening.

All right, let's jump in.

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Well, Waver Wires are going through. We've got our hungry for more candidates this week. I went with one of the guys that was at the titty top of the waiver list for wide receiver. I went with Jalen Tolbert, wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys. All right. This is a player who last week, seven for 87 in a countdown. Brandon Cooke is out for at least three weeks. The numbers right now in Dallas, their third in red zone plays overall. Their second in passing attempts per game. And maybe more interesting, and it doesn't really mess up my rest of season, the little draft we're doing later. But did you know, right now, CeeD Lamb is 19th in points per game at the wide receiver position through five weeks. He's averaging 12.8 points per game. Jalen Tolbert right now already at 9.3 points per game. So there's a three-point per game difference between Jalen Tolbert and CeeDee Lamb five weeks in. You're talking about a huge opportunity in a pass-first offense. Jalen Tolbert seems very startable to me right now.

Yeah, I do think that we are at that, especially while Brandon Cooke heals up from a knee infection, which sounds decent disgusting. I mean, of all the places, on your knee or in your knee, I don't know, it just sounds bad.

But I agree. I don't mean to laugh, but your delivery there. Detroit this week, huge over under. I'm hungry for more Jalen Talbert. I think the opportunity is right in front of you. I think they're throwing the ball 41, 42 times a game. I mean, okay, so give Lamb how many? 15 targets? 10? 12? You've got a lot to go around. Yeah, we do. I think Jalen Talbert is... I'm hungry for more top 15 performances from him.

The Cowboys' passing offense, they're pretty good at He's doing us fantasy goodness.

Yeah. So you have another wide receiver here.

I do. And hopefully, you follow us on the Twitter sphere because news- At the FF Ballers. The news broke yesterday that Drake May was going to start, and And that's not who I'm hungry for more of because I haven't seen anything. But it's Jalen Polk, who I had over the offseason was... The drum beat for him was steady. It was not quick and loud, but it was steady. Already over the offseason of people are ignoring this player who was taken 37th overall by the New England Patriots, seemingly to be their number one wide receiver with a brand new quarterback. This is a situation you want to get in at ground floor because the price is so cheap. And the upside, it really exists for... I mean, he was a really good prospect coming out of Washington, and they've made him earn it. The Patriot way, that's fine. They've made him earn the starting wide receiver position where it started off really slow. Up until last week against Miami, he led the team in routes run a 100 % route participation.

He saw six targets, only had the one catch, almost had a miraculous- Yeah, nobody taught him to put both feet down.

Well, they did. No, it's the stupid freaking NFL rule of somehow- Can we talk about that, actually? Oh, please. Have people moved on to my side? Because that would be great.

All I'm saying is that it's an inconsistent and terribly- Yes. Applied rule, because what the rule is, is that if you're toe tapping on the sideline, let's say you're going towards the football, towards the sideline, you can put your titty toes down and you're in. If you are coming down in the back of the end zone or on the sideline and you are coming backwards, and you touch the toe, you also are forced to touch the heel. The whole foot needs to come down. It makes no sense. That's the rule. Now, if we ask the catch child whether it's a catch- Yeah, it's a catch. The catch child would say it's a catch. Yes. The biggest problem is that with that Jalen Polk near TD to win, by the way, With that play, I started thinking about it. If Jalen Polk had lifted his foot up, so he touches the toe and then lifted the foot up, that would have been a catch.

Yes.

But because he completed putting the foot down, it's not a catch.

If he had touched his toes and then his toes slid out, then somehow that's a catch, too. What in the world is going on? It's the most preposterous It's a monstrous rule to me. If his toes hit and somehow he crumpled in such a position that his elbow hit out of bounds, it's also a catch. Why is it got to be the whole foot if you're saying that toes count?

It can't be the whole foot only when your momentum goes a certain direction. That's inconsistent. I hate that rule, but that's what happened. So you're hoping that maybe- And- Drake May provides a baseline.

It is the unknown upside. Side. Look, Jacobi Perset, I think he's a good backup quarterback, but Drake May has a huge arm, and that's what we need for fantasy football. We need someone who's going to challenge the defense vertically. And Jalen Polk is their number one guy. I get, like, Kendrick Bourne is coming back. That's fine. He's not going to be their number one guy. I'm just saying that this is some real upside here for cheap. Probability, very low, of course, but it doesn't matter at this point. Looking on your waiver wire, who's a player that go from pure nothingness into very relevant, it's just a handful of names. And why not bet on some really talented rookies?

There are two rookies right now in the top 10 at wide receiver in terms of points per game. Actually, sorry. Three. Malik Nabors at number two. Brian Thomas Jr.

Oh, yes, of course.

At number 7. And Marv sneaks in. I thought Marv might not be in there by points per game. Marv might only be in there by total. I saw Marv at nine this morning, but I think that was not points per game. But it just shows you that you can make a quick impact as a rookie. The odds are against it, but that's why you're hungry for more. All right, that was hunger for more. Presented by Uber Eats. Get game day deals all season long, only on Uber Eats, the official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now.

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Well, do we have any sad music, Al? Because I feel like it's worthy of it at this point in time. The NFL's receiving leader Nico Collins, has been placed on injured reserve.

Thank you.

With a ham string injury.

From elite shutdown to the tent to ruled out to day to day to week to week to missing a minimum of four games. So what's next? Amputation? Don't you dare, my sweet Nico.

Look. Gosh, it's disappointing. Four weeks at least. So everyone's quick reaction, which is appropriate, is, Is this the time when Tankdale takes up the mantle? I mean, Tankdale has been a disappointment, but I want to give him two excuses. Maybe three.

Okay.

Okay. Is that enough? I don't know.

Let's see if I agree.

Number one, he was shot in the offseason.

Yes. Yeah. That's legit.

I mean, maybe your training regimen got a little bit upside down every time you're shot. Number two, dealt with an injury this year. So on the field, already dealt with an injury, missed the game, you're coming back into form again. And again, we're five weeks in. There's a reason we're doing a fantasy draft redo, but we're five weeks into a long season. Number three, opportunity. Nico Collins, Stefan Diggs, Tankdell, we knew it would be a little messier.

I think you are missing the biggest one.

Of course I am, Mike. What was I about to say?

He broke his ankle last year.

That is true. So he came off an injury last year and got one this year and got shot, and he's got competition.

He broke it. If you recall, everyone what happened, Tankdell was on his way to a legit breakout rookie campaign. He was so amazing. Goes in for a block. I believe he was rolled up on, breaks the ankle.

Yeah, Damian It's not Piers' fault. I'm just choosing to blame him. And also Dimeco Ryan.

I'm writing myself a little note of remember this because we all think about injuries. In the NFL, when you hear, Oh, it's Just a clean bone break. We're like, Hey, that's not ligament damage. He'll recover. He'll be back to full strength. I mean, how many of these guys with busted ankles... Tony Pollard took him a while.

We hoped- That was the same injury.

Yes. That was the fibula. We hoped it would be just fine, but it took him... He wasn't the same. I mean, look at Tony Pollard now. He's looking very good. Not that it is everything, but Mark Andrews, a very similar injury, and his usage and everything is-I'm not familiar with that player. His usage, no one is anymore. Usage is way down.

I can't place the name, but go on.

Tank Del. Broken a fibula. Perhaps this injury, we need to take it a little bit more serious when we are injecting risk into what's going to happen for this player.

And honestly, I have no problem popping the balloon on a player that I I don't think is going to perform rest of the season. I'm not in on Mark Andrews. I think the gap between what we're getting and what we need is too far with this offense. But I am happy to tell you, I think Tankdell is going to be okay, everyone. Like, Staphan Diggs is not in his prime. Tankdell is going to be the downfield threat. Yes. And so I'm excited about his opportunity. I do think he'd be a buy low. And again, if you want a hot trade tip, the way you get Tankdell, in my opinion, is not to go and offer a one-for-one for one for Tankdell or something stupid like that. Everybody knows this, Nico Collins news. The way that you get tankdell is you make a bigger deal, and tankdell is a part of the bigger deal. If you want to try to go get that player- The Trojan horse. You Trojan horse them into these deals. You cannot be on the nose, people. You cannot just be right on the nose. You got to have... The conversation begins like this, Mike, you've got tankdell.

Okay, great. Oh, man. You've got tankdou. This guy has been a bum.

He's been a bum. Listen, Mike.

Oh, you hear Nico Collins is hurt. Surge in value.

It's crazy. By the way, I need a tight-in. Do you have a tight-in?

No, because nobody does. Do you have one for me? It's a bad example. Crap.

You're really ruining our- I'm starting Mark Andrews. By the way, I need to upgrade my quarterback. Do you have a quarterback?

Oh, I sure do.

You got a quarterback. Why don't I do my quarterback? Who's somebody that's dominating right now that's going to fall off the map? Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to give you Kyler Murray, and I'm going to give you Jamieson Williams. Wow. I want you to send me back- I would. I'm going to send me back Lamar Jackson and Tankdell. Let's do that deal. No, let's not do that deal. Send me back Joe Burrow and Tankdell. Send me back Jaden Daniels and Tankdell. You're telling me people aren't going to... The value of Jamieson Williams today is higher than Tankdell today. No question. Yes. That deal could get done. I'm saying those quarterbacks are too high up, though. You got to be like- You're telling me that you think Joe Burrow's permanent state is where he's at? I mean, it's not like Kyler Murray and him are far apart in points per game.

They are not.

So I'm just saying, if you're getting the better deal, you're blowing this up. You're supposed to be acting with me.

I am. I'm being the devil's advocate.

Well, listen, that's the concept. If you're like Mike- I get it. Who has Joe Burrow everywhere and believes he... And then Mike sniffs his farts, then we're good.

When you win two weeks in a row because of Joe Burrow- Because of Joe Burrow.

Yeah.

You're feeling pretty good.

Rashi Rice is out for the rest of the season. We said it yesterday. I had somebody ride in right away and say, Whoa, chill out. He's not going to be out. He's out. He's gone. Patriots starting Jake May. Derek Haar is going to miss multiple games, and the team is turning to preseason sensation. Okay. All right, let's bring it back. Al, you go find it. Oh, yeah. You go find it.

Oh, we got to repurpose it.

Spencer Rattler is going to be the- I got a snake, man. He's going to be the starter. We got to go into the deep, deep archives. I got a snake, man. Yeah, Spencer Rattler is back. Or whatever.

The snake drop.

The snake drop is back. I like Spencer Rattler.

Let's see if he can strike.

I mean, right now, they are throwing the football the least in the NFL. Oh, that's going down. They're running more than anybody. So it doesn't make you... Right now, the feeling on Chris Olave, spoiler alert, he's not going to be one of the top 24 picks today.

Yeah.

So the feeling around him, and Rasheed Shahid has the special connection with Carr, I worry about him moving forward. Spencer Rattler is a rookie. You need to be worried. You know who you don't need to be worried about?

Alvin Kamara.

Alvin Kamara. Because he's the best friend. Because somehow, when a young quarterback, an unproven quarterback, that comes into the game and they're running around for their life, Alvin Kamara becomes very large in their vision, because he's always got some separation from the linebacker in front of him. Jalen Lauren, Cordero, Patterson, both going to be out. Aaron Jones, week to week with a hip injury.

Yeah, the quote... O'kunal was talking about Aaron Jones saying, He avoided the long-term injury, but said, We're not sure he will be back for... I think it's Detroit next week. Kyle, you can correct me if I'm wrong. Which just, if you made the low investment to go get... Oh, my gosh. Now his name is escaping me. Chandler. Ty Chandler. That perhaps you'll have a starter next week.

All right. You guys have any other news? No, sir. Who exactly is the starting quarterback for the New Orleans Saints this week going to be? I got a snake, man. All right. Let's get that graphic updated. Blake Bortles in the house. I just You've noticed that he's got... He's the graphic that comes up on the video.

The timing is so amazing because I got hit with... Do you remember? There was a video of Blake Bortles and some realtor taking him around, showing him a house, and they're getting his reactions, and they're just... They're so amazing because the lady's trying to hype. She's like, Oh, what's the first thing you do in the morning? He's like, I'll probably take a piss.

Yeah, play portal.

If you weren't playing football, what would you be doing? Work in construction, ripping cigs. Oh my gosh. It's amazing if you've never seen it.

All right, that was today's News & Notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at usaa. Com/insurance. We're going to take a break, and then we'll come back with Thursday Night Preview, and then our fantasy draft redo. All All right, we get the 49ers and Seahawks. Let's break it down.

Thursday Night Breakdown.

Oh, baby.

The 49ers at 2:00 and Taking on the Seattle Seahawks 3:2 in Seattle. 12th man in the building. Draftkings Sportsbook Line, San Francisco minus three and a half on the road. The over-under is 49. Feeling fine.

Okay.

It's gone up.

This game is incredible. It's really more of a who would I not play in this game?

Yeah, let's do it that way then. Right now, the division, by the way, three and two Seahawks, Cardinals and 49ers, two and three, the Rams are one and four. Again, I want to stress, Cardinals, 49ers, same record. Any thoughts on that? Hey, Falcon.

Falcon? No thoughts.

Okay, no thoughts. No surprise. All right, Brock Purdy. Disappointing week last week in a game that we expected big things, it makes you ask the question, Mike, who would you not play in this game? Is Purdy a lock, or would you go Cousins, or Fields, or Stroud?

I'd go Cousins. Rattler? Not Rattler. Stroud is... We didn't talk about the implications for Stroud of- It's not great. You lose who was currently the best wide receiver in football. That's definitely a downgrade for you. I get it. It wasn't what we had hoped for, for Brock Purdy, but he's still back in for me as not an elite option, but still right there as top 12-ish.

Okay. Jordan Mason is the Rb5 on the year right now. He did have the big fumbal last week, but you've got to play him. Kenneth Walker.

Dude, the bone zone is open, man. It wasn't great on the ground, but what we are getting from Walker through the air- Seven catches.

That's got to be near a career high.

It probably is. He's at a 14% target share right now. When I was caping for Walker as my fantasy MVP, it was, I think we can get to a 10% target share. I think we can get there, maybe a little bit above it. And week one was 12, week four against Detroit was only nine, but then 21%.

Do you realize that Charbonney has 10 targets and eight catches in the last two weeks?

Yeah, But yeah, he's getting plenty of work, too.

They're throwing the ball to the running back a ton.

This is what Grubb told us he was going to do this, and he's coming through big time. So Kenneth Walker, it's- That's a Grubb doll, baby. It is. He was five for 19 on the ground. That's catastrophically bad. And he was the running back 21. He still made it to 11 points.

Jsn has only one top 30 performance on the year. Is this a game where you're going to- He Him and Juan are like the, what do you do?

Juan Jennings? Yes. What do you do with these fringe guys if you're in the deeper formats?

I think Jason's fine in a game with this high of an over-under. Despite the fact he's not having prolific weeks, he's averaging 9.2 fancy points per game. Juan Jennings is not somebody I'm looking to start just because I'm going to need- The Pixie dust wore off here. I mean, he's a really good player, but at the end of the And say, Hey, if you had a flex spot, you'd be going Mason, you'd be going Samuel, you'd be going Ayoug, you'd be going Kittle. So then you're talking about the fifth flex option on this team. It doesn't mean he's not startable in a pickle. It just means that you are playing with fire a little bit. And Shana Hans said he wants to get Juan Jennings more targets. But look, you know what this offense is like. In your bottom, your floor for Juan Jennings, it's nothing.

When you combine that with was Was that the jump start against Arizona that Brandon Ayyuk needed? Because 8 for 147 is... I feel like that's the... Okay, okay. I remember throwing to this guy.

That Thor back in shape.

Yeah, possibly.

And George Kittle is the number one tight end right now in points per game through five weeks.

George Kittle is the man. Yeah.

Tyler Locket has not finished in the top 24, so he's a a lower floor play option. He is involved.

Do you You want him or Jason? Jason.

It's interesting. I would want Jason. They are not far off in terms of their production. They're not far off in terms of their target pace, but I would take Jason.

So trying to look at total just yardage. I thought it was identical. I thought it was identical, but it's not. Tyler Locket's at 274 yards on the year. Jason is at 257, but he does have the one He has the one huge game and one countdown.

That's the way I'd go. I mean, it's a very exciting game. It should be good for fantasy. Gino Smith and the Seattle Seahawks first in the NFL in pass rate. And Gino's leading the league in passing yards, completions and attempts. So he's actually... I'd play him over purdy.

Gino?

I would. At home.

Yeah, I think I'd go purdy.

Okay. Anybody else you want to talk about in this game? I mean, Debo was really disappointing. That doesn't matter. He missed the week, and then the weeks before, he was pretty... Why did you say you were 42 and 76? You're still confident?

I'm still confident that he's a great player. We got back to the old Shana Hanegans of, I focus on one guy for the game plan. And that was clearly Ayuk last week, where Debo saw three targets.

It was weird.

Yeah. The first two weeks were great for Debo, and then since the two weeks back after the injury, it's been a little slow.

All right. You want to move on to our fantasy draft region? Not really. I know. You're not ready for this.

Nor are you.

I mean, the button has been pushed. So.

That's it like strong bad. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Trying Can I push it again?

The fantasy footballer's mock draft.

Whose fault was that?

I think it was my fault for hitting it before the show. I'll take the blame.

Was it a one-time use only button?

All right, you're right. It's Al's fault. Thank you for pointing that.

You're welcome.

A one-time use button. It's a digital button. We've only licensed the drop once a week to push it at any time. We didn't pay the price. Now, what's happening right now is that Al is very... He's going to be upset because we're talking about the mistake, which means he can't fix it in post. I liked the strong... And we're just going to keep talking about it.

I liked the strong bad intro.

Strong bad.

That joke is killing with 2% of our audience right now.

The elderly folks are enjoying that joke. Before we jump in, Kyle, you're on the line, aren't I am here. All right. Well, before we jump into our fantasy draft, Redo Top 24 Picks, Mike is going to pick first. I'll go second. Kyle, third. We'll just go back and forth. Before we do that, I did mention on yesterday's show or on Monday's show that I wanted to go through the top five players at every position through five weeks. Right now, in four-point per touch, per touch down, league's quarterbacks right now, this is points per game, Lamar Jackson, Jaden Daniels, Baker Mayfield, Jordan Love, Joe Burrow. At Running Back, it's Saquon Barkley, Alvin Kamara, Derek Henry, Kenneth Walker, and Kyren Williams, who's with a minimum of three games played. That's important, by the way, because if you didn't do the minimum, Joe Flacko is dominating the quarterback position. At Wide Receiver right now is Jamar Chase, Malik Nabors, Nico Collins, Justin Jefferson, and Jaden Reid. And at Tied In is George Kittle, Dallas Godert, Brock Bowers, Tucker Kraft, and Isiah likely. And there you go.

Yeah, that's ridiculous. All right, with the first pick of the 2024 fantasy Drive redo.

Yeah, I'm so curious about this player.

I think it really could be a handful of guys, but I'm just going to stick with Jamar Chase.

I figured you were going to do it. I figured that's what you were going to do.

It's not just the two games that have recently happened. That's just simply showing you this is the ceiling.

He wouldn't be number one without him.

True. Yeah, definitely. But I'm saying the other guys that we're going to talk about, can they hit on a weekly basis a Jamar Chase ceiling while still giving you a relatively safe floor? I don't think so. So I'm going to go Jamar.

That would not have been my number one pick. Okay. That would have been number two for me. Actually, at number one, it's not Saquon. The number one pick, right now, if I was redoing it, would be Kyren Williams.

Wow.

Kyren Williams. Look at this guy. Kyren Williams would be number one. The spice. He's as safe of a shutdown play every single week. And this is a team that's going to be battling every single week, giving up points.

Twenty-two opportunities a week for Kyren right now.

Yeah, I mean- It's outrageous. I will take the L on the assertion that he was going to be in a timeshare. That assertion was based on the fact that Kyren Williams was going to be- You're going to just stop after the first three letters, bro. He was going to be a punt returner. He's not a punt returner.

No, because he's a top tier running back.

Because they need him. So Kyren is going to be the pick, Kyle. I'm curious, your thoughts on those two and who you're going to go with.

You guys went I felt this very different than I did, which makes it a good experience. But Saquon's my guy. That's who I would take. He's passed his by, and 22 opportunities a game just feels super safe.

Yeah. Kyren got the pick ahead of Saquon for me, in part because of Barkley's age and injury history, and the fact that I'm not surprised it's a strong start for him in Philadelphia, but at the same time, we've had injuries to both wide receivers, and he's older. So that was the difference maker for me. But yeah, Saquan, Kyle, the front runner, obviously, going with the guy that's already in first.

That's what we're doing here.

No, I know, I know, I know. But he's not here, so I just wanted to say something mean. Mike, you're at number 4 here. Chase, Williams, and Barkley.

Who are you going with it for? I will take Justin Jefferson here. Interesting. He has been fantastic. We had four straight weeks of a shutdown. Add on top of that, look, Detroit, the Rams, the Colts, the Jaguars. Those are the next four games after the bye week for Jefferson. So I think he is the... While Sam Darnold struggled a bit against the Jets this past week, Jefferson has remained in the top 24 every single week. Like I was saying about Chase, maybe we don't have a 202 ceiling for Jefferson this year, but 150 and Two? That's very possible.

All right. I'm going to go with a rookie at pick five. I'm taking Malik Nabors at pick five. Goodness gracious. He's just a target monster on a team that he's their entire offense. And so if you looked at just the first four weeks, he's on pace for... Mike, do you know the number?

No.

What if I told you it was 221 targets? What if I told you he was on pace for 148 reception, 1,640 yards, and 13 touchstones? I mean, that is astronomical. So I'm going to go Malik Nabors. There's more seasoned names out there that I could have picked. But with Bries Hall and Brijon not climbing up this list as high as they were before, I'm going to take... I mean, running back wasn't an option here for me. I'm going to go Malik Nabors.

I totally get that. And if he gets that target share the way that the Giants are playing, Malik, this will not be the only time he misses a game.

Because he just Too much.

Yeah, he's getting crushed.

Kyle, who do you have at pick six?

I think this is one of the points where you have to think moving forward, what can they be? I would take CeeD Lamb here. He's been the wide receiver. What'd you say, Andy? 19.

Yeah, at this point last year, he was the wide receiver 20.

So it was the same thing. And then you remember that run, rest of the season, you're not getting the same insane target share, but he does have the second easiest wide receiver schedule moving for it, and they can't run the ball.

That would have been the closest pick with neighbors to me. So I love that pick. I think CeeD Lamb is when you don't want to miss right here. It's not like he's been bad. He just hasn't had the 100 plus yard games.

Yeah, he hasn't gone boom yet.

He will. Don't worry about that. Mike, you're on the clock. Ceed Lamb was the pick.

Well, that made the decision easier for me. Don't forget about this guy because he's a little bit lower in the overall ranking since he's only played the four weeks. He's already had the bye week. Amunra Saint-Brown will be my next pick. Week one was a bit, a lot of bit scary when you took someone in the first round, and he ends up with six targets for three catches and 13 yards. And then we went, Oh, everything's okay, because we got 19 targets the following week. Amun Ra is... It's still already... He's not in that Jamar Chase tier, it feels like. And yet he's still just So solid and so good, basically every single week, except for week one.

All right. Well, I'm going to finally give us another running back. The first seven picks off the board, five were wide, receiver. And I'm going to go with Derrick Henry. I'm going with Derrick Henry at pick- Interesting. At pick eight. This is not just a hot start to the season to me. This is an identity change for this team.

Has he scored every week?

Seven times a week, I think, is what's happened so far. I'll bet it real quick. No, Derek Henry is going to be the pick because I don't think- It's been outrageous, man. I don't think it's going to change.

Seven total touch downs.

If there's ever a player, you can... We say that touch downs are not a predictive stat. They are with Derek Henry. You can guarantee that they're going to happen. The identity of this team has basically... Everyone's been erased from fantasy value. Andrews and flowers. They don't have players to rely on. It's Derrick Henry. And if they could have their dream, they'd play defense, and he'd run for 200. So they said everything before the year, We're not going to be like Tennessee. And then they hand the ball to Derrick Henry 5,000 times.

Well, they told the truth of, We're not going to have him on the field all the time because he's averaging 52% of their snaps. 52% of their snaps, but he gets over 20 opportunities a game.

It works for me. So I'll take him at eight. Kyle, you're on the clock at nine.

Yeah, this So this is where you drafted this player in the offseason, like back of the first round. So Jamir Gibbs would be my pick. He's passed his by. It's been solid. I won't say great yet, but you have the upside if Montgomery went down.

I think he is the running back eight right now, seven or eight, depending on your scoring format. So he's been lurking in the shadows with super solid performances, and yet no monster. He's the player that can put 30 or 40 up in a week if it goes his way. So like you said, also the injury- He's still been great.

And it's just David Montgomery, I don't think Can keep scoring every single week because he has also done that.

Well, and Dan Campbell came out and said, like Gibbs is, we're ready for it to grow even larger in terms of his role. Mike, you're back on the clock. I think this is when it gets more interesting. Some of these pics here, you can mix the order up however you want, but I don't think there's a lot of disagreement in terms of the players that we've drafted.

Oh, my goodness.

But here's where you start to look at rest of season, not necessarily just what we've gotten through the first five weeks. But Mike, who do you want to take here? Because I really don't know what name you're going to say.

I don't know what name I'm going to say. This is what I'm talking about. This is such a strange point of It's not strange to think about redrafter right now, but it's strange of where these players are with dodging injuries, quarterback injuries, players themselves getting hurt. Oh, my goodness. I'm going to go James Cook right here.

Interesting.

I think that he... He's a my guy. That doesn't hurt things at all. But he had the stinker against Baltimore. But other than that, a number 2 finish, a number 11, a number 7 finish. The guy has been... He's been excellent. He's averaging almost 16 points a game, and that includes a really bad game against Baltimore.

All right. So James Cook is the pick?

Yeah. And it's like, what is this offense in Buffalo other than James Cook? Nothing else feels really secure.

All right. This is where I'm going to have a really difficult time.

Oh, James Cooke not practicing today? That's cool. What is this, T. Higgins? Right after I draft him?

Just relax. It's Wednesday. Did you cause that?

Probably. My bad, everybody.

Obviously, Nico Collins would have been probably- Drafted in the top three? Yeah, he would have been picked already. Yes. Now, you have to account for four weeks of missing time, so he's not going to be the pick here. I'm actually I'm going to take a long view type of decision the way CeeDee Lamb was picked at six. I'm going to take Tyreek Hill.

Okay. I wondered.

I'm going to take Tyreek Hill at 11, knowing that, look, we got a buy week this week, and then we could have Tua back I think in week seven or eight. I think it's week eight.

It's week eight. So you have at least... You don't have him this week.

You don't have him next week.

You don't really have him next week.

You'd still play him. He was 6 or 69 on nine targets last week.

It's He's calling you shot for sure.

I want the best wide receiver or one of the best wide receiver in football with his quarterback when it's time to win games. You've got a lot of fantasy season left.

Yeah.

So I'm going to go with Tyreek Hill. Kyle, I am curious. If he would have been in contention for you.

No, he's on the list. I have no idea where I should have taken him, where he was supposed to go.

Look, it's Tua. We hear he's going to be back week eight. We hear that. That's what I'm planning on, but I think those plans could change. Tua could get out there, start practicing in full, and be like, Oh, no, things were actually not okay yet.

So there's risk.

Yeah, definitely.

I believe There's people that are trading right now for Tyreek. I see it in our Discord, and they are like four and one or three and two. They're like, Can I trade for Tyreek from the manager who is scared or they're one and four? I feel like that's a spot where a lot of people can take advantage of him. Yeah.

If I have a winning record right now, I'm for sure trying to go get Tyreek kill. I'm trying to make plans for the playoffs.

All right. Makes sense. Who's the pick?

Pick 12. I promise. I promise this is not a homer pick, but I think I take Béjian.

Okay.

He has the third easiest schedule rest of season. He's still seeing over 30% of the team's total rush attempts and targets. It's there, you're just waiting for it, and Carolina this week. So I think Béjian belongs somewhere between 12:00 and 15:00 to me.

I don't disagree. I think on Monday, Mike, we had talked about with Jason, Breese or Béjian rest of the season. My answer was Béjian. Is that your answer? Or is this transformation of head coach changed what Breese is going to bring?

I think the head coach change for the Jets to me is essentially neutral, which if you didn't hear the rumor mill, ladies and gentlemen, it got Moi Caliente this morning as the report, allegedly, I'm only sharing this because it's just so much fun, that Coach Salah had said Or someone found out he was about to remove Nathaniel Hackett, the offensive coordinator, from play called duties. And then the Uno reverse card was thrown. They said, No, you're fired.

That's a little more than just a reverse That's hard, man. We're going to ask her, Are you from the building?

Things aren't going well up there for the New York management. No. But between Béjan and Bries, I guess I'll go Béjan, just the offense, looking like they're alive for the Falcons. I like that they're throwing more because I would rather Béjan get targets instead of rushing attempts.

All right. Well, Mike, you're on the clock.

Man. So I believe that the number one overall running back still has not been selected. Is Kamara at number one still?

I'm going to bet that. I don't think he's at number one. No.

He's at number two. I apologize. Yeah, terrible. Yeah, Derek Henry, the King, is at number one. And I still don't want to draft Alvin Kamara.

Well, you got to change a quarterback. Yeah, that does. But Kamara is impervious the most things. The offense doesn't look good. What are you going to do? I mean, you'd be making call over Breese, obviously.

Yeah.

Over Achan, over James Connor, over Monte.

Oh, my goodness gracious. This is absurd, ladies and gentlemen. This is fully absurd. I'm trying not to let my priors... I wasn't really bullish that Kamara would be able to do anything like this, and he's been exceeding all expectations. But he's just so old. He's just so old. I'm going to So I'm just going to double-check the wide receiver's here. Now, we're going to get back in the bone zone. I'm going to take Kenneth Walker here. I love what's going on with the utilization of him. Way too much. Injury risk, absolutely. He does seem to be a little bit more fragile than other runningbacks. But Kyle, he leads the NFL in red zone opportunities?

That's not what it says.

Well, look, I want to make sure that people know that the bone zone What is the Red Zone?

No, I just threw that in there.

Oh, you're just because that's his name? Well, no one else is in contention, Kyle. No one else exists inside of the Bone Zone.

Just Ken. He's number one.

Just Ken. Goodness gracious, Kyle. Distracting me with dumb stats.

So you're going Kenneth Walker over Alvin Kamara?

I am.

The question for me is Kamara or Breese Hall now. Yeah.

I didn't want to do that one. I bailed out.

I don't know when or if he will go in the top 24. But I do want to bring up James Connor's name because he ended last year with five straight top five performances. And this year, James Connor is the RBI nine this year. He's been dominant.

We need more targets, Kyler?

They tried. He threw a pick to Bosa. Just saying of the- But Connor has been super reliable. This isn't the pick here. I'm going to take Alvin Kamara. I'll go ahead and do it. I get it. He was a He's a steal in the draft. He's a steal in this one. Kyle, you're back on the clock. Kamara is off the board after Walker and Béjan, so the running backs for the last five. Who are you taking?

I'm going to take a forgotten wide receiver. He played in week one, and then we haven't seen him since. So I would take A. J. Brown. I get it. He might not be 100% right away, but it's been four weeks, and I think he's probably the best wide receiver of this group the rest of the season.

It's a good call. I'll be honest. We should have drafted him earlier. That Everything is just so upside down.

I don't know if that's true.

I do. I would take A. J. Brown over Tyreek Hill right now.

That's the only one, though. I don't think we've messed up another wide receiver because I agree. Almonra, Lamb, Nabors, Jefferson, Jamar Chase, The Tyree kill versus A. J. Brown, yeah, maybe that one should be flipped, but both of them have risks at this point. A. J. Brown coming off an injury. Philadelphia looks a little bit messy, and then Tyree kill is messy right now. Mike, you're back on the clock after the AJ Brown pick.

Okay, so now the question is, do you take someone who is actually producing at the wide receiver position, or do you take the gamble of trying to get a guy who was drafted as a top three running back If we were really going right now, I think I would do that. I'm going to go. I'll take Breese.

All right, Breese Hall at 16.

I'll end his suffering.

It's rare to be reluctantly taking Breese Hall, but that's where we're at. I've got the next pick here.

What did Jason say? The biggest Breese Hall stand, the biggest defender, how does he feel about three yards in attempt on the season, 2.6 last week, Point for the week before.

There's a reason he's not here.

He couldn't stand to face it.

What do they call that? He's taken a- Leave of absence? Leave of absence? What does some of the companies do, though?

Like a What? Like a forced vacation?

No, they take a week off for like- A wellness retreat.

Oh, the wellness week. Yeah, you got to get that mind right.

Got to get the mind right, Jason. No, he's actually seeking some Insight. No, look, I don't think he feels good. He didn't really acknowledge it a lot. He's got them on every roster. I think he just... It's one of those quiet nod, acknowledgement.

Because the first three weeks, it was fine.

The- Brees will be better. His schedule is good. Something changing that offense is good. We'll take a break. I've got pick 17 coming up. All right. All right. So the last three picks, Kamara, AJ Brown, and Breese Hall, puts me on the clock. I don't know when is the right time to draft Nico Collins, but I don't think it's right now.

Not with for sure four weeks out.

Plus, maybe more.

Yeah, I can't do it.

I'm actually going to go with... I'm going to go Brian Thomas Jr. That wide receiver.

I didn't know when the right time to draft him was.

Now is the right time. Pick 17 overall is the right time. I'm taking Brian Thomas. I just think he is actually a really high floor. With all the upside of being the talented rookie that he is, he's just going to be peppered with targets by this team. So I'm going to go Brian Thomas.

Yeah, they're trailing all the time. I think you said on Monday's show, 13:50 is what he's on pace for, which is only Jamar Chase has ever done that. There's a bunch of wide receivers here that I don't know the order of. Brian Thomas was one of them. Jaden Reid, Marvin Harrison Jr, Dregelen. All of those guys are around the same.

You forgot another one, too, I think.

I probably did.

Did you say D-K? I think D-K Metcalf Mike Evans would be two more names to think about.

Yeah, they're right below that for me. I'm going to take Jane Reid. I need to take the L on that Andy.

Yeah, how does that feel? How does that take it? Right in the...

Right in the what, huh?

Yeah. I will select him for my team, Andy.

There's no... It couldn't have been a better sound effect than what you just said.

There was I was scrambling through. Cut that, cut that, cut that. What body part is he going to say? Because they're all going to be bad.

There's nothing good. Sorry. Go ahead, Jaden Reid. Take him.

I'm dead, but also He's number one in fantasy points per route run among all wide receivers.

Yeah, he's awesome.

When he's on the field, they're good.

Well, it's been often this year, so it's a good pick. Mike, you are back on the clock.

Okay. If I'm here at this point, it is between three players. It's Drake London, it's DK Metcalf, it's Marv. The hot and cold nature of Marv is scary thus far, but he's a rookie. You would expect things to get better over the course of the season. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to take Drake London. Again, there's the turnaround of what's going on with the Atlanta Falcons. The targets are absolutely redonkulous right now. Thirteen targets in the crazy game. Look, that's not normal. However, the week before, it was 12 targets. He only caught six of them. He had an outrageous 12 catches on 13 targets the past week, but they're opening it up. Kirk still doesn't look fully healthy to me. It looks like It looks like a lot of effort.

I was going to say it looks like he's working hard.

Yeah. It's not just a nice casual flick of the wrist, the ball goes flying. It's a little shotputty at the moment, but the ball is getting there, and and Kirkis still has the smarts to get it done.

That's a choice over Marvin, Metcalf.

It's trying to catch the trajectory. Get on the rocket ship while it's not left Herb it yet.

All right. I think a safer risk is a funny way to put it. I'm going to take Cooper Cup at 20.

Wow. Okay.

We expect Cooper Cup back next week. So you're talking about one week without Cooper Cup, and he was performing at a superstar level. Again, I'm going to take Cooper Cup at 20. I'd take Cooper Cup over Drake London right now, but probably not the names before it. So, Kyle, you're back on the clock. We got four picks left.

I'm going to make it easy. Mike, if you want to hit that drop, we're never going back to the Pan store. I'm never going back to the Pan Store. Marvin Harrison.

Man, Marvin Harrison, it's weird. It's been a weird season.

It's really weird.

Because there's been disappointing weeks. I mean, whenever you have a guy that, what, two out of five weeks, you've been super bummed? And yet, explosive, number one option. That's a tough pick to know where to put him, but I like it. All right, three pics left. Mike, you're up next, then me, then Kyle to round it out.

We have definitely been here before where the QB1 was So far ahead of everybody in points per game, and then things leveled off. But the Ravens, like you said, the identity of this team seems focused on Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson. And Lamar is almost 25 points a game right now. Jane Daniels has been the steal of the draft. Lamar is multiple points per game better than him just five weeks into the season. So I'm going to go early QB here. I'm going to take Lamar.

I don't blame you. I wasn't sure if we'd see a quarterback. I had Lamar and Jaden on the list. I don't want to go another injured Gamble with Nico Collins here. I don't think that's the right play. It's tough. Monty's in consideration.

Over to JT?

James Connor, Jonathan Taylor.

I get-Yeah, sorry. James Connor and Jonathan Taylor are a problem because Taylor's around the same production level that Connor's at, but he's got the injury, and he's got the quarterback that I don't have confidence in.

I get that, yeah. So Jonathan Taylor is probably worthy of the pick. It's just a little bit scary. It's between probably Metcalf and Achan. I'm going to take Devon Achan with, again, the bet that you're- The bet that he's only out a week with a concussion? Yeah, and that you have a quarterback back after that. If you're going to miss a week, miss the one where you're on by already, and then get your quarterback back quickly and get onto the field on one of the league's best offenses. So I want to win the league. Making a pick here of David Montgomery is not going to win your year of the League. But Devon Achan could if the offense is back in one piece. Sure. I'll go A, Chan, and then Kyle, your final pick. Why is it her cousin?

Montgomery was in consideration, but I'm with you. It's like, I feel safe with him, but upside rest of season. Dk Metcaps also there. But I'm just going to swing for the fence and just say, Brock Bowers is the tied in one rest of season. I think he belongs in this second, third round-ish, and he's awesome. We talked about him on the dynasty podcast.

The lack of Devante Adams, which is more than likely permanent now. Yeah.

Did you notice his hamstrings hurting for one more week?

It is, yeah. It's hurting until it gets traded. Yeah. At least that's what it feels like right now. So seriously, When Adam says, If he's gone permanently, Brock Bowers, he's the number one target for that team. We already know that this dude can play. He can play in the NFL.

He could do a big play.

Oh, my God. The high point head top ball.

Yeah, a breakdown. Nasty. Should have had two in that game. All right, I want to run it back real quick, Mike. I'm going to read the first 12. You take the second 12. Jamal Chase, Kyron Williams, Saquon Barkley, Justin Jefferson, Malik Nabr, CeeDee Lamb, Ammon Ross, St. Brown, Derek Henry, Jamir Gibbs, James Cook, Tyreek Hill, and B. Jean Robinson.

Ken Bone, Walker, Alvin Kamara, A. J. Brown, Breesaw, Brian Thomas Jr, Jaden Reed, Drake, London, Cooper Cupp, Marvin Harrison Jr, Lamar Jackson, Devon H. N, and Brock Bowers.

All right, definitely give us your feedback?

Oh, yeah. Let us know what we messed up.

Yeah, and what egregious oversight exists. If we had another 12 picks, I'm sure Jonathan Taylor would be in there.

Dike not in the top 24.

You redraft. Let's say you did a full redraft. Where's Christian McCaffrey?

That's a very good question.

Also, where is he right now?

Does anyone know?

And where's Jordan Mason then? Because if you answer the first question, you have to answer the second question, because if McCafree is late, then Mason should be somewhere higher. And that gamble for the rest of the season is potentially league-winning. If McCafree comes back in as himself, even if he's not himself for five weeks. If you just told me that, where does he go in the draft?

If he missed another five weeks?

No. If you say McAfee comes back in two weeks, and he's in full form in five.

In two weeks? If he came back in In two weeks, he would be a first-run pick. But that's the question. Where in the world is Christian McCafrey?

All right, that is going to do it for today's episode of the show. Don't forget to drop it like it's hot. It's our little weekly reminder on Wednesday. See who your league mates dropped when picking up their waiver wire selections, because sometimes desperate times call for desperate drops, and they'll put them back into the waiver wire, and you can scoop them up tomorrow.

Shout out to Xavier Hutchinson of the Houston Texans, who, depending on when the Nico news ran and all your waivers went, he seems like he's the next man up for the Houston Texans. That's true. Just saying, hey, people got nasty, bad situations out there.

Play Talbert first.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

All right. We'll catch you tomorrow. Starts of the week. Goodbye.

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