Transcript of FINAL MOCK DRAFT! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/29

The fantasy footballer studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.

Welcome in. Happy Friday, everybody. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, the fantasy footballers. August 29th, Back in the building. Big time draft weekend just ahead of us.

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Perfect, Jason. Welcome in one and all. And an extra special welcome to the YouTube community who watches our show every day.

Somehow.

We have to get something off our chest right here at the top, real quick. I'm laying down on the couch last night. It's about, I don't know, almost 10: 00, 9: 30, 10 o'clock.

Whoa, burning the candle, Andy. Wow.

Good.

It's great. All right. Yeah, I was going to Letting it hang out. I'm looking at the episode yesterday, and I'm seeing these comments, and I'm going to be honest with you, YouTube, you're wonderful people, but you could be a lot in the comments sometimes. We don't always read them. We do try to browse them and see. I want to know if something's going wrong with the show, basically. So we check the comments, and I'm looking, and I see a couple of comments, and they're like, Man, there's a lot of ads in this show. Every three minutes, there's an ad. I'm like, What are you... I literally reply, I'm like, What are you talking That's impossible.

We've had two ad breaks for 10 years.

Yeah, our show is very standard format. You might get an ad at the very beginning before the show begins. We have two dedicated defined ad breaks. There's even music leading into them. And then we have a postroll sometimes. That's it. That's all we've ever had. I'm seeing these comments and I'm going, What is going on? People are saying, Are they just complaining about the normal ads? That seems like a thing people could do.

I love people complaining.

Then I start watching the show.

It's really my favorite.

One stood out to me and they said that sometimes Sometimes they cut off what people are saying. I'm watching Mike and I'm watching him do his MVP, Ken Walker thing, and right in the middle of a word, an ad bumps in.

Yeah, even YouTube is like, Shut up about Ken Walker, dude.

Enough already.

That'll do. Long story short, we discover that YouTube, in their effort to, I guess, secure more YouTube read memberships or something to that extent, they made some adjustments to their ad placement, and they started... If you don't define the ads, which we always have done, something was glitching out over the last month. I would say at least half the episodes, Al, you were the one doing the legwork last night, fixing everything, probably more than half the episodes in August, right? Yes. We're automatically placing ad breaks and overriding what we did.

Like every three minutes?

Every three minutes. Jason made the comment to me. He goes, I can't believe we still have subscribers. I We posted a note in the community chat on YouTube and on Twitter this morning, but we have discovered the insanity that was going on on YouTube in the last month. We are so freaking sorry that you have been enduring these random ad breaks that... If you have YouTube read, you don't even see it, or YouTube premium, whatever they call it now. You don't even see it. We had not discovered this until last night. It has been fixed. It will be fixed going forward. I'm going to do something here. We're going to pick five random YouTube comments today. I'm going to buy you your favorite jersey. We'll buy you your favorite jersey from whatever team and player that you want.

Thank you for- As long as it's the Arizona Cardinal.

So we can get it on a discount. Oh, yeah. No. We'll pick five comments today. Thank you for sticking with us through the insanity of that. It made me want to throw up last night. There you go. We're not that desperate for cash. Yeah, we're not that desperate for cash. We're trying to give you an ad every three minutes. In fact, you'd have an amazing experience watching the show. And thank you for enduring the insanity the last month. It's been fixed. It will be fixed going forward.

Yeah? Yeah. Okay.

All right. That out of the way. We have news. We have our final mock draft today, a final lay of the land heading into the weekend. If you're drafting Saturday, Sunday, Monday, or before kickoff, this will be a perfect chance to see exactly where we have players going, how we build teams.

This one feels different because I know all three of us are in... Right now, we are towards the very end of at least three legit live league. We are past real draughts now, and our League of Record draft is Monday. So this is like, this is a... I'm taking this one, sir. This isn't like, I'm going to test this theory. This is the real test. This is the real test.

Yeah, and news changes all the time. We do have draughts also starting tomorrow in the Megalable. So Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, and then one Wednesday draft, Wednesday morning. So it looks, I don't know if it matters, but it looks like the Saturday early draft is the most popular draft so far. But we have two a days through Tuesday, and then a Wednesday morning draft for the Megla Bowl. If you want to get in and play in that league, I think we're up about 16, 17,000 people so far at meglable. Com. Let's talk some NFL news.

News and notes from Around the League, presented by Progressive Insurance.

Yeah.

It happened.

Michael Parsons has been traded. Yes. Yes. Peek. Michael Parsons has been traded from the Cowboys. Okay, that's Al Borland. Very excited packer fan. Been traded to the packers.

Here, Jeremy, I got I'm never going back to the pet store.

You're darn right. I saw somebody yesterday said they thought that that song had always said the Pet Store. I'm never going back to the pet store. What? And they were in. I don't know why, but they were in on that. Cowboys, no more Michael Parsons. They get two first-round pics in a defensive tackle, Kenny Clark. The packers then signed Michael Parsons to a record-breaking $188 million contract extension, the most money ever for a non-quarterback. Okay, reactions. This is not normally fantasy football talk, but I mean- Well, this is legit fantasy football talk, because if you look at what the Cowboys defense has been with Micah Parsons on the field and without, it's basically one of the top three or one of the bottom three defenses.

If you're telling me that the Dallas Cowboys have no run game and no defense, but they've got Dak and Seedy and George Pickens, and I'll even throw Fergalicious in there right now, it excites me more for what they're going to have to... If they want to win games, they're going to have to score 30 points if their defense takes. It's very similar to why we love the bangles. Yeah, NFC bangles. Yeah, they've got the weapons in the receiving game, and they're going to have to score 30 points to win. I love that from a fantasy football standpoint. Then obviously on the flip side of that, to me, Josh Jacobs becomes more relevant. This is a team that could be winning on defense and running the clock out slightly more. Obviously, that's just what happens. People talk about, When you run the ball over 25 times a game, you win. No, it's when you win the game, you get to run the ball a lot at the end. Those things matter. I have slight tweaks in my mind of just excitement about the Cowboys receiving game and the Packers run game.

Yeah, I think two of us, maybe Mike and I, had the Packers winning the division already.

To That was so long ago. I don't know.

You both did.

Because I saw this coming.

And I changed.

Well, look, the catch here, the packers, you got to do this. This is amazing. I will say this is the most all-in move you can make. You not only have to pay Michael Parsons, which destroys your cap situation, because him and Jordan love. I mean, those are the only 200 plus million dollar players on the same team. But you also have no picks for the next couple of rounds. I mean, this is very muchOh, they can't afford them. This is my team last year. I am going all in. I'm trading everything I can for stars.

So you think they lose in the Super Bowl then? Okay.

Look, it's just very all in. Very nice.

Thank you. Speaking of Super Bowl, we see players change teams, and then you're like, Oh, did this do anything to the odds?

The wise guys-It did actually make a difference. In Vegas. A big running back signing in crickets.

They've gone from eight and a half wins to eight and a half wins. It literally He does nothing. But the Micah Parsons trade, the packers, Super Bowl odds went from plus 1,800 to plus 1,400, and the Cowboys dropped from plus 5,500 to plus 6,500.

I don't know about that. Jerry says this makes them a better team.

I've heard.

He was asked one question, and he spoke for 11 minutes and 5 seconds. Man. Nobody likes a press conference more than Jerry Jones, and nobody's gone through enough. I've watched that whole documentary. I mean, it's Perfect timing. I just got done with eight part of Jerry Jones' documentary on Netflix. You go all the way back to Herson Walker and all these other trades, and he just wants credit for doing something crazy. That's what he wants. That works, right? He fought over Jimmy Johnson in the Herson Walker trade.

Who gets credit?

You're 82. Who cares?

You ain't got time for pics.

You own a team. Why do you care who gets credit? It's delusional. Cowboys fans have got to be so frustrated.

Wait, Jerry, they're plus 1,200 Correct. Goodness gracious.

The packers? Yeah. They're getting bet on.

Hard. It's a huge move. I talked about it when this was going on. I was like, I want to finally see a superstar. Go to Jerry Jones, however metaphorically or actually... No, you messed around, dude. Now you're going to find out, I don't want to be on this team anymore.

Did you see Micah?

I saw him celebrate.

When he was doing a live podcast, he was interviewed, and it was... Jordan Love was on there on the podcast. It was live, a studio audience and everything. This was not that long ago. He makes a joke like, Why don't you come play for us? Micah is just like, No, I'm a lifer. He's like, Jerry Jones is my guy. He's like, I will never leave the Cowboys.

Yeah, but you get to a point where you're just... You're inserted.

It sounded like the news yesterday, the reporting was, even when the trade was ready to go, the agent and Michael Parsons went back to the Cowboys and said, No, let's talk. He wanted to be there, still.

Yes. Then- Jerry didn't want to work with the agent. Yeah. It's all pride, man. Can't remember who... Jane Slater? I'm trying to remember who tweeted it, but confirming that this was said, that That conversation happened, and then the cowboy said, No, play on the fifth-year option or get out of here.

Yeah, it became pride. Okay, I'll see you later. It became ego. It's ego.

I'll go take all of that generational money.

Yeah, it's outrageous. So there you go. Big time We got news from Bucaneers general manager Jason Leick. How do you pronounce his last name?

Is it-Leick.

Okay, thank you. Said Chris Godwin is likely to return in week five or later So that is a long time.

So what are they doing over there? I do not know because you have a roster spot of your 53 that will be dedicated to Chris Godwin. I know he gets to practice, but this is-And what was the GM's name again?

Jason.

Okay, thank you. Aj Brown is practicing. This is good news for the game that is less than a week away. Marvin Mims returning to practice after the groin strain.

Well, they're saying he will return on Monday.

Oh, okay. So that's TBD. Yes. And then we did get a report, Mike, before talking about the plan is to split, carries up a little bit more with Kyren and Blake Corm. I think we talked about it on the footcast. Jason, You said, interestingly enough, being the Kyren Truather.

Yeah, I do believe that this is true. I am not scared off of it at all. I don't look at Kyren Williams as a player that when I'm drafting at the two, three turn, that I'm drafting him because he gets 90% of the snaps and an extreme workload. I still believe he will be the lion of the timeshare.

I do look at him that way. I look at him as extremely touch-down dependent and workload dependent because of the efficiency struggles the last two years.

I think he'll still get the touch down opportunities, though.

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm not saying that this is moving him. I didn't move him off of this information.

Yeah, I didn't move him either.

But I do look at him as somebody that I don't think would be good on limited touches.

It is funny, though, the Jarquez Hunter Truthers. Right. It's like, he is clearly not the backup here.

Yeah, that's at least what they're saying and doing.

I mean, you look at the utilization in camp.

I'm saying we don't have game film yet, but It sounds like it. Yeah, it'll be quorum as the backup.

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The fantasy footballer's mock draft.

There you go. The final mock. The final mock. Here we go. We have a 12-team half PPR, one quarterback, two running back, two wide receiver, one tight in, one flex, four-inch mock draft. We randomly assigned draft spots today. Mike got the sixth spot. I'm at eight. Jason at the turn at twelve. Maybe just so used to it from some of our other drafts.

The early offseason, I was constantly at the back of the draft. I've been a little higher recently, but I will say I enjoy being late. So long as it's not a super flex, if it's a non-super flex, I really like being late in most drafts. But I think with this group of all very like-minded individuals, I doubt that the players I see dropping to the 12 get there in this one.

Well, away we go. Jamar Chase goes number one. Bjan Saquan, CMC off the board, 2, 3, 4. Mike shaking his head. Ceedee Lamb goes off the at 105, putting Mike on the clock here in round one.

This one's easy. It's Jamir Gibbs.

All right. That's a shame.

I don't need to do a whole thing. If I'm at six and there is another McCaffrey, Truth, in your league, and he's gone. And Jamir Gibbs falls, okay.

Yep. That puts me on the clock at 108. I was somehow hoping maybe Jamir Gibbs slipped by. I was in a similar position in another draft, a little bit different format. I actually went Puka Nakuha right here in another draft. I was on the fence between Puka and Derrick Henry, so I'm going to take Derrick Henry in this mock as for some reason, we just aren't giving him his due still. So one of the Super Bowl contending best teams in the league. Henry will be the pick for me in the first round, Mike with Gibbs, and we have Chase, Lam and Jefferson, the wide receiver's off the board. Al Borland on the clock. Well, I guess after Henry, it went Ashton Genti, then Amunra, then Malik Nabors. And Jason, you're the clock at the turn.

Yeah, this is really interesting. Given that it's a mock, what I really want to do here is take Puka and Nico. I think each one of those guys could finish as the wide receiver one. I believe both of those guys will be a top seven wide receiver to start that way is great. When you're on the turn, it gets really dicey whether or not you give yourself the flexibility of going one running back, one wide receiver. If I was to look at the running back position here, it might surprise you. It's certainly not ADP, but according to my rankings and what I would go, I would go Jonathan Taylor. No Josh Jacobs after the previous discussion. I love Josh Jacobs as well, but I've got Johnny Taylor even higher.

Could Josh Jacobs finish number one overall?

I think Josh Jacobs could, but it would be tough sledding. I look at Jonathan Taylor and Josh Jacobs, I think they're outstanding. I don't really think either one could finish as the number one running back fantasy option because they're not high volume receivers like a Béjon, like a Gibbs, like a Christian McCaffrey. Because I think there's a tier difference, I'm going to do it. I'm going to take the guys that I think are absolute difference makers, set apart at their position. I'm going to take Puka and Nico. All right.

Any Purpose behind the order you took them in?

None. I don't even know which order I took them in.

Because you disrespected Nico is what I'm saying.

I respected Puka. How dare you? I'm a glass-half-full guy.

Half-full for Puka.

It's half empty for Nico.

But I look at the positive side. I'm looking at the water, you're looking at the air.

Puka, Nico. Nico, the first pick of the second round. A second round pick, as you'd call it.

No, first pick.

Drake London goes next. Josh Jacobs, Brian Thomas. I had a group of six players on my board because I know how to use the cue, and there's only one left. And so it actually is interesting. I went I went Henry in the first round. I'm going to come back and take a player that is slipping away too far. Devon Achan is going to be the pick at the 205. The injury has knocked him down ADP. I like him much more than Jonathan Taylor, who goes next, putting Mike on the clock with Jamir Gibbs on his roster.

I will say, if you want to talk about, could X player be the number one? I think Devon Achan has a higher odds to be number one than Taylor because He could catch 90 passes this year.

Okay. Well, Mike, you're on the clock. What are you thinking about?

So I'm looking at the wide receiver. Adp-wise, it's A. J. Brown, Lad, Tyreek, T. So the way that I have it projected out, it would be... It's A. J. Brown would be the clear pick there. At the wide receiver, or I'm sorry, at the running back position, Kyren Bucky, Chase Brown. Man, I love Chase Brown there, but the fact that A. J. Brown dropped to me, I'm just going to take him. Make it easy.

So you split. Jason went too wide. I went too running back. That'll be fun to play out in a mock draft. And Mike with the one-on-one situation. Chase Brown, any temptations there, Mike?

Yes. There's definitely temptations to have him, but I want a top 10 wide receiver right there.

Tee Higgins goes next at the ninth pick of the second round. Kyren at 2: 10. So Booksy stacks the running back, Saquon and Kieran. Lad McConkey going at 2: 11. I found myself having a harder time drafting Lad lately. Jsn rounding out the second round. Any thoughts before we take a break?

Is the Lad McConkey just Keenan Allen-based, or is it shifting philosophies?

Yeah, it's mostly Keenan Allen-based, and just the fact that I think the running game will be successful. And so you saw the second half of the year where they had no choice and no players, and Lad benefited. I have him slightly under his reception and target totals of last year, believe it or not. I love Lad, but I do think that Keenan will have a role.

They really didn't have a lot of options at the end of last year. Lad was really good. Then it was like, Well, we could throw to Kuj on the outside, and we can't run the ball, so let's just keep throwing to Lad.

Yeah. I would say this, too, in best ball league and things you're drafting this weekend, don't forget that Kuj exists. He ends up really low in ADP. If you're in a best ball league, he can score for that team. It's not like he's out for the year or anything like that. He's just recovering from a concussion. We'll take a break after the second round here and come back and continue the mock. Brock Bowers, the Brock of the Mock. Third round, first pick.

They both made it to the third.

Bucky Irving, Tyreek Hill, Omari in Hampton, Trey McBride. I noticed as Brooks' first wideout, Tyreek Hill. How do you think he feels about Tyreek as your first?

Hopeful. If Tyreek is your first, there's only one way you can feel. It's hopeful.

He says he regrets not taking JSN with the second pick after being left with Tyreek. But Mike, you're on the clock. Gibbs, AJ Brown.

So looking at the wide receivers real quick. Adp. We got Marv Evans, Garrett Wilson. So a different tier. Well, the runningbacks are about to deplete. So you have James Cooke, Ken Bone-Walker is there. As much as I love Ken Walker. I do have James Cook ranked ahead of him. So I think the running back is going to be an issue on the way back, and like those mid-round wide receiver, so I'm going to take James Cook.

I have been much comfortable with James Cook lately.

He's been much more comfortable in his 3,000 thread count sheets.

Okay. Yeah. No, that's a good way to sleep. He can sleep at night for many years.

Do they even make those? I don't know. What's the highest thread Thread count.

Does anyone know this? Jason would know.

Yeah, Jay, what's the highest thread count?

How high does it go? It goes to 3,000. No, I don't know.

All right. Mike Evans goes off the board next. Interesting. Evans over, Gareth Wilson over Marvin Harrison I would have. I'm going to pull the trigger here on Marvin Harrison as my wide receiver one after drafting Henry and A-Champ. Marvin at 308, Ken Walker off the board at 309. Al Borland has Josh Jacobs already on the roster. He just drafted Micah Parsons. Wow. In the third round?

I asked the AI Overlord's, was the highest thread count sheets available? Some brands advertise thread counts up to or even claim 3,000. Oh, baby. You're right on. The random number, apparently, is the highest it gets.

Oh, boy. Are those- It's the highest it claims.

Yeah, it claims. Can you even lay on it, or did you just slip, just Overnight, you just slowly slide off the bed.

You nailed it. 3,000. Ken Walker, Alvin Kamara, Treyviann Henderson at 3,11. Too rich for your blood, Mike, or are you okay with that?

I'm I'm okay with him in the fourth, and the Falcon's right there on the turn. I don't think Jason would have taken him.

I would 100% have taken him. Oh, you would have? Yep.

Well, then he made the correct decision because 311 or 4: 02, that doesn't really matter.

Both of you had two wideouts already. It makes sense that running backs are on the docket.

Here's the issue of double tapping the wide receivers at the beginning. It leaves you at a totally different tier of runningbacks allowed, left on the board. Brees Hall, okay, he's next up in ADP. Tuba is a good running back. James Connor is a good running back. But these are not exciting picks that if you compare those to some of the other difference makers that are on the board, There are guys that are just way more important for fantasy. So I know I came in. So this is something where you have to stay water. You have to be willing to pivot. I'm always going to try my best to take difference makers over average guys I need on my I'm not a big zero-RB drafter. I don't like drafting that way. But if that's what the value is when you're on, then that's what I'm going to have to do.

That's a long way of saying George Kittle.

It's actually something I literally never do. I recommend not- Are you the first to want to back off the board?

You're going dub onesies?

I'm going dub onesies. Because I'm on the 12 spot and what's allowed left, I'm going to take Lamar Jackson and George Kittle. I feel like- The George Kittle disrespect.

Because- He's dropping him into the fourth.

No, I wanted him first in that round. I didn't want him to be the last pick of a round.

Yeah, that's a dumb argument.

Anyways, I took Lamar Jackson and George Kittle because my runningbacks are going to be weaker. If I were to draft runningbacks there, I'm weaker than every other team in the league already. Now, I've got a strength over them at a different position.

I want to hear you talk about your runningbacks later.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's going to suck. At the end of this draft, this is going to be more of a zero-RB draft where my runningbacks will look very, very poor. But in a real fantasy league that is a managed league, I'm going to be crazy on the waiver wires. I'm going to be going hard after the injuries. At the end of the draft, I'll be drafting a bunch of the backups.

I'm upset because after Kittle, Connor went, and then Gareth Wilson and D. K. Metcalf. I wanted both of those players. I wanted one of them to be my wide receiver, too. I'm going to pull the trigger here on Terry McLaren in the fourth round, who was dominant last year, just got paid, loved the offense, and fourth round, I can live with it. So Josh Allen, first or second, quarterback off the board to Betsey, puts Mike back on the clock. Gibbs, A. J. Brown, James Cook so far.

It's been falling pretty easy for me, so I'm going to stay balanced. I'm going to take my guy, Teteroa McMillan, here in the fourth round. I thought Betsey would take it for sure.

I have a question for you.

That's a nice little treat for me. What's that?

One of the players that is not moving up in ADP but Maybe, in my opinion, should be much higher because of the recent circumstances. I'm just curious about the temperature you guys take the temperature on Xavier worthy because this is going to be their guy. He was so good down the stretch. There is no Rashi Rice for six weeks. It seems like maybe he's being slightly undervalued.

I agree. I agree completely. He's a more talented player than, I think, the Rashi Rice news and the hype of Oh, he's not going to be suspended this year. It's going to go to next year. Oh, it's going to be in the middle of this year. He carried the cycle. And so the question that what we're doing with the Chiefs has always been, assuming that Rashi Rice is the one. But the truth is, Xavier Steve, you're worthy, could be the one for this team.

Yes, he definitely could be the one.

He projects to be that. I'm torn on worthy because it wasn't until the end of the year that it really came on for him. Although he's a rookie.

That's normal, right? Yeah, it is.

But while it was good for fantasy, it was good the games that he got you a countdown. I have my concerns of-If they throw deep, though, isn't he one of the biggest beneficiaries? Well, they tried to use them that way at the beginning of the year, and it was not working at all.

Worked in the Super Bowl.

Sure. It's not an impossibility, of course. But when you're looking at 11 targets from Mahomes turned into 6 for 46, 11 targets turned into seven for 65. And then the chiefs of Hollywood. Hollywood Brown is there and healthy right now. And the end of last year, they were hurting at the wide receiver position of anybody reliable. So I have my concerns of if he's not getting nine or more targets on a weekly basis, I think you're getting 50 or fewer yards, and then you're just hoping that he scores, which It's my home. Things could turn around in an instant for the Kansas City Chiefs passing attack. I am lower on worthy than you guys are.

All right, Mike, you're on the clock. Gibbs and Cook at Running Back, AJ Brown and Ted McKmillon at wide receiver. Fifth-round pick. You are balanced at the moment. I am. We still got some one top-tier quarterback maybe available. We do.

We got Joey B is still there. The wide receiver position at Adams. Rice is there because of ADP. Worthy is there. Oh, man. So at the running back position, Brees Hall is. Wow. Yeah, exactly. Is Is fifth round punishment enough for Brees Hall?

That is definitely punishment enough.

That we should probably be drafting him there, which I... Oh, man. It still feels bad. It still feels bad.

Take him over, Burro.

Why? What's your plan here?

What's your scheme? My scheme is to build my best team. I don't care about your team, Mike.

I'm going to try it. I'm going to try it.

Brees Hall. It feels bad. I think he likes it. It feels bad immediately. He likes the pattern. What's wild is Devante Adams-Yeah, and then George goes next, who would have probably been my wide receiver pick.

It feels terrible.

George Pickens went next. Yeah, I'm back on the clock. This is the worst. Adams He was there in the third. I thought about it. He was there in the fourth. I thought about it. He's there in the fifth. I mean, I'm taking Devante Adams, Harrison McLaren Adams, after starting Henry Achan. I feel good about that. Xavier worthy goes next to Kirt. I wasn't willing to pull the trigger on worthy over Adams there. It was those two and Devante Smith that were the last names in that tier for me. Joe Burrow off the board. Producer Borland himself, and then Devante Smith goes. You shook your head. I think you maybe wanted him, Jason. I don't know.

No, I shook my head because I was shocked. I just assumed because it was the Falcon that he'd be going after my Caleb Johnson. As a team that needs a running back and I'm on the turn, I might have to reach ahead of ADP.

You're looking for a third stringer?

I'm looking for my- That's weird.

You can't play him in week one.

I can play him in week one, and I have to play him in week one. Oh, yeah, you can. Looking at the other positions, though- The platform will allow it. Like I said earlier, I'm never going to just automatically say, I need a running back, so I have to take a running back. You have to glance at the other positions. I'm looking, I like Travis Hunter, but he's a question mark, Zé flowers, whatever. I don't need a tight end. I don't need a quarterback. So I am. I'm going to double tap the running back position here. Tony Pollard is undervalued right now because he starts the first four weeks of this season as a bell cow on an offense that could be majorly improved. What was it for Spears?

Was it an ankle?

I don't remember, but he's on the pop, so he's gone for the first four weeks. I think it was a high ankle. I'm not even going to bet it. I'm going to take Tony Pollard, and I'm going to follow that up with Caleb Johnson.

It was a high ankle sprain, which... Spears is out the first four games. It would not be surprising for two weeks after that for Spears to still not be remotely close to himself. If you're talking five to six weeks of Tony Pollard as the main guy.

Now, when I look at the difference between Tony Pollard or what I could have grabbed in a James Connor or a Chuba Hubbard, versus now, if I had gone James Connor and Chuba Hubbard and I wanted a quarterback on a tight end, I'd be looking, instead of Lamar Jackson and George Kittle, I'd be at Baker Mayfield and Sam Laporta. I'm very happy that I did the rare double onesie tap.

Still going to need an Rb2, though.

Nope. I've got a fantasy MVP.

All right. Ridley, Kelsey, Swift off the board. That puts me back on the clock.

Taylor? Oh, my gosh.

Kelsey and Swift, back to back.

No. Oh, yeah, you're right. Kelsey and Swift right next to each other.

Well, this is cool. I have not liked the draft more than this one going double running back. I don't know if it's just because of the way other people picked, but I feel like I'm just getting stars at wide receiver every round, no matter how long this draft goes. I'm taking Roma Dunesay in the sixth round. So Harrison, McLaurin, Adams, and Dunesay. Travis Hunter, yes, went next and was on the shortlist as well.

Mike, could you have more opposite runningbacks than you do? Derrick Henry and Achan is a combo. It just feels like- It's just perfect.

I'll get my ground to pound, and I'll get my through the air. I feel good about that.

I see Achan up riding on the shoulders of Derrick Henry. You know I mean, if they were in a pool, they're playing.

Are we trenchoing or are we chicken fighting?

They're chicken fighting.

Who was the two... Oh, gosh, I'm not going to remember his name. When the Titans had Henry-White.

Yes. No, no, no. I thought you were going Chris Johnson.

No, no, no. There was a tiny running back that they had, and I can't remember his name. Kyle will remember.

When Henry was on the Titans?

Yes, because they stood next to each other in training camp one time. And just like Achan and Henry- That's because Mark Ingram looks tiny next to him. I cannot remember the name. It's not Al Borland, no.

Deion Lewis? Deion Lewis. That's what it was. That bet wins that one.

Yeah, all right. Mike, you're back on the call.

Why am I?

Gibbs, Brown, Cooke, McMillan, Hall. Color Cimetry says you want to go with a wide receiver if you want to go back and forth.

Okay. So looking at the ADP, Rashe Rice, the standoff is still going. I don't hate the idea of of taking him right here, especially because I already have A. J. Brown and Ted McMill, and I feel strong there. I can wait, but I got to know the rest of these clowns here as we are going to move into the seventh. I'm in the middle of the seventh round. I'm going to scroll. Don't forget to scroll down, ladies and gentlemen. Do not forget to scroll down because I'm going to take Ameca Abuka.

All right, so you are doing it.

Adp-wise, that is a I don't know. It's not really a reach. That will end up as a reach.

That's right where he's going to be going in league. If you look at best ball, ADP, he's already way above that point. He's basically almost a fifth rounder, which is getting a little spicy. Maybe too much. And he's a my guy. I believe in him. But where you took him, I think, is the perfect spot.

You thought Warren was going to make it to you?

Warren is a seventh round pick in every draft I've seen lately. I know I know early in the offseason, he was almost undrafted.

The people don't know what's going on. Agbuka, Aaron Jones, Stefan Diggs, Zee flowers, Ricky Pearslaw, Patrick Mahomes in the seventh or in the late sixth, Charbonne, Tyler Warren in the seventh round. Crosky-merritt.

Bill Crosky.

Jalen Warren, Chris Olave, Mike back on the clock.

All right. Man, so I got to look at the running back just in case I can make my pattern continue to go. But it's Mixon, Judkins, Tracy, ETN, Skatebu. Jordan Mason wouldn't be the worst pick right there, but I don't particularly love it. Jerry Judy, I think, is fascinating right here. How long does Joe Flack will get to keep that job? Where did you get his temperature check on Jacobi? After the old, I want to make more money, so send me away. I don't think that's happening.

Yeah, I look at him exactly like John Jennings. Necessary.

But I'm saying, do you see him as still the same?

For now, yeah.

Jay, where are you at, Kobe?

It's tough because I think, obviously, if he moves, you don't know. I think the fact that he's necessary is why we like him as a Rater. But then you add Amari Cooper, and it makes me question how necessary he is. Not that Amari Cooper has a ton left, but just having anyone else there. You know, Brock Power is going to be the number one target. So then it's like, if you're fighting over two incoming rookies, Thornton's looked great. You add Amari Cooper. I'm not really in on Jacobi right now.

Looking through the names, I'm just going to take Jerry Judy right here. I'm not 100% confident in Jerry Judy, but in the seventh round, he is someone who could vastly outplay his ADP.

All right, Rashi Rice, 707. How do you feel about that pick? Matthew Betz, take Rice in the seventh.

I like it. He's run with Hero R. B. What Johnny Taylor as his only guy, but this team will get stronger as the year goes.

Jason?

I would rather have other wide receivers that are on the board right now. I will say that, echoing what Mike just said, he is the type of build that Rice works. He's his wide receiver four. I would not take Rice ahead of being my fourth wide receiver.

It's his wide receiver five.

Yes. He can't be one of your top three wide receivers.

All right. We'll take a quick break and come back with the rest of the mock. All right, I'm back on the clock. Henry and Achan at Running Back, Harrison McClore and Adams in a dunes day. A wide receiver. Yes, I had my sight set on Tyler Warren making it through.

He would not have made it past me.

Okay. Well, I'll pull the trigger on what I think would be a more difference-making situation for my team at this point. I could add some depth at running back. I could add... There's nobody in the quarterback tier that I need to fight over. I'm okay with the Jordan Mason choice here. I'm okay going starter, Javante Williams, low ceiling. I think I'm going to pull the trigger on Sam Laporta. I don't think I've drafted him in a mock. He's two and a half rounds beyond ADP. I think Laporta, late seventh is fine. Matthew Golden goes next. That was, unfortunately, my other pick.

He was highest on my queue, so he certainly would not have gotten to you.

All right. Matthew Golden, Jordan Mason, Tyrone Tracy, often ignored and yet starting Tyrone Tracy. I don't know why we ignore him so much because he was really good when he played football last year. Other than fumbling, he was outrageously talented a bad offensive situation.

The reason that we, as a group, don't care that much about Tyrone Tracy is Cam Skatebu. That could be very foolish. Kam Skatebu is a day three running back. The reports middle of camp came out saying, This is Tyrone Tracy's team. It's not Cam Skatebu's team. I think it's just our pre-NFL draft scouting of Cam Skatebu. I believe that's the reason.

For me, it's more of a... Tracy was Tracy was a workhorse. And even though maybe he is the 1A, that's fine. Skatebu will be involved. The offense is not going to be great. And then where you're taking Tracy, I think that Tracy Because the Falcons team, he's got Trevian and James Connor. Tracy's not going to crack his starting lineup unless an injury in week one or two happened. Tracy won't make it into his starting lineup, and Tracy will lose value, in my opinion, as Skatebu becomes more and more involved. So by the time you're like, Okay, I need to get Tracy in here, you've already lost value.

No chance Tracy outperforms Henderson for the first part of the year?

I don't think there is.

I would be surprised by that as well. All right, so I'm on the clock here. I'm balanced. Obviously, I had my two stud wide receiver, Puka and Nico, and my runningbacks are a little bit weaker with Tony Pollard and my MVP, Caleb Johnson. I'm going to go one wide receiver, one running back here because I think there's value at both. Debo Samuel is a little bit left for dead here in the seventh round at the end, and at the beginning of the eighth, I'm going to take Austin Echler. I think he pairs really nice.

Yeah, I think that's a good spot.

With my roster. Tony Pollard, Caleb Johnson, and Austin Echler. I'm actually totally fine with those as my running backs going into a season when I didn't get my first running back until round five.

Hawkinson off the board after Jason's two selections, putting Al Borland on the clock. He's taking his time with it, still searching for Michael Parsons. I don't know if he's going to be able to find him. He begged for an IDP League today.

He can still take him.

He is really struggling here.

Sorry, my computer froze for a sec.

He was adding ads to the show. The draft was frozen on our screen as well, but I'm trying to get that. Okay. Well, yeah, that's Sleeper.

Hey, we fixed it.

Look at that little tiny draft board. Khalil Here. Off the board, Evan Ingram leaving me with the disgusting decision to add depth at running back a starter, Javante Williams in the eighth round. Oh, yeah. I want to draft Javante in a couple of spots when I won't have to start him at all, and I like the rest of my players. Because that's a player I don't like.

I would add a third caveat to that because I agree when you don't have to start them and you like the rest of your players, that's a great place for Javante But I would add the third tier in the 10th round or later.

Oh, and I didn't do that.

No, but two out of three is not too bad. Yeah.

I mean, at running back at this point, you're just picking... If you don't take Javante Williams there, and J. K. Dobbins would have been also in similar situation, but has R. J. Harvey there. If you don't take those two guys, you are just... It's like...

Travis ETN, Kam Skatebu, Ramondre. I mean, come on. Studs.

Yeah, I mean, those guys- You stopped before there was a draftable player.

Studs.

Who? I mean...

nick Chub?

I mean, Chubb. Yeah, Chubb is available. I guess you could go Chub. But Mike, you're back on the clock.

So I'm going to peak over at the quarterback position. Looking at my draft, there are two teams in between this and my next pick who need a quarterback, and they may take the chance. I haven't made an official move to Dax stats, but man, I really think the loss of Michael Parsons could jump Dak into just another tier and move him up. Then I'm looking at one of those teams that needs a quarterback, drafted CeeDee Lamb with their first So if I want Dak, I bet I have to do it here. The fallback would be, I have Abuka.

Kyle is confirming he's- That he would have- Well, all he said was, shove it, Mike. I don't know. I don't know That's what that means.

I'm just saying, like breaking it. He didn't even need to tell me. I knew that Dak would be either... Dak would probably be his next pick. Am I okay risking that and just taking Baker as the fallback? But Baker could go as well. And the answer is, I am not. So I'm going to take Dak.

All right. Dak makes the tear jump right here on this mock. So Kyle can't take him, goes Keion Coleman instead. And I'm guessing, begrudgingly.

Sure.

Bo Nicks goes next. Tyler Kraft. Nick Chubb. Tucker. What did I say? Tyler. That's not him.

You're thinking about Tyler Warren way too much, man. Yeah, I really am.

nick Chubb. Quinchawn Judkins. Okay. Is he on your board at all?

He is Super on my board, but late. Super? Well, he's a target. When I say Super on my board- In big font? I mean, he is a highlighted target for me. I think he should usually be going more around the 10th round. So maybe this is a smidge early. However, any minute. Man, I am just not interested. I'm not either. And I totally get that. He doesn't have a contract. Absolutely. But here's the truth. If he were to sign tomorrow, if the breaking news comes, he signs tomorrow. And it is somewhat likely that in the next week or two, he signs a contract. If that happens, he would be totally viewed completely differently, and we wouldn't be talking about this is too early for him. If he gets a suspension, which is the case was dropped, he might not. But if he does, it's an- He will get suspended. Then it's three games because there's no way that they're going... That's the automatic suspension for that, for domestic violence. They're not going to go over and above the automatic when the case was dropped. If they give a three-game suspension, okay, if they were to sign him now and then he misses the first three weeks, you're still talking about a second-round draft pick talented running back who has really not that much competition.

I mean, Dylan Samson, if Quinchaun Judkins... Maybe Judkins doesn't sign, doesn't play this year. I mean, it's a huge risk. But I do think that the likeliest outcome is that he plays the majority of games this season.

Mike, you're back on the clock. Dak in the last round. We got three picks left for the three of our teams.

We're about to close it out. Kyle, I'm sure you'll be delighted. I was punished by taking Dak there because Tucker Kraft went.

I don't think you're punished. I think you've been rewarded.

To not draft Tucker Kraft? Correct.

Why is Because I think you should stack here.

Oh, what? Jake Ferguson?

I think you should take Jake Ferguson. If you think Dak really leveled up and the offense really leveled up, I would see Ferguson and Kraft in the same. Either one could outperform the other one.

Okay. I still have Tucker Kraft ahead. I do like Jake Ferguson. We just highlighted him sometime this week. But looking at the rest of the Bulls, we got Betz is the only team that doesn't have a tight end. So even if I don't end up with Ferguson, there's still a couple of guys that I really like there. I don't know who's clamoring for Tank Bigsby besides me, but I don't want to risk a starter running back four. That's right, starter.

Yeah. Tank Bigsby, Cam Skatebu, ninth round. I've got to get the taste of Juvante Williams out of my mouth.

That's going to need a lot of mouthwash.

I'm going to go ahead and go Cooper Cooper Cup in the ninth round.

That's the most resigned.

I'm going to wash down this Juvante with another-There's a point where Cooper Cup, who's on the field every play, is dropping way too far.

It could be. It's really ridiculous, in my opinion, to look at... Jacobi Myers and Michael Pittman went ahead of him. Kylian Shaqar went ahead of him. He can put up those seasons. Juan Jennings, Brian Robinson, Jaden Blue. Jason, you have two pics left. Or sorry, three pics left. Two right here.

Two right here. There's a handful of backups. I'll just name them because when I'm in more of a zero-RB build, I'm looking at guys like Trey Benson, Will Shippley, that I think are really good insurance policies. Then you've got Ollie Gordon and Kendre Miller, who might be even more than that. They could sneak their way into- Do you not think that there's a chance that Benson is? Benson could be as well. They've talked about a one A, one B situation as far as playing time. I'm probably leaning towards Trey Benson. He's of that group, I think the most talented back. Also, his starter is old and usually misses games. I'm going to take Trey Benson with one pick. Then here at the very end, it's a matter of... I've only got three wide receivers. I think they're really good wide receivers. If I didn't like them more, I would swing for the fences with Jaden Higgins, but I'm going to play it a little safer here in the 10th round and grab Keenan Allen, who I think will be very, very involved on a weekly basis.

All right, Jason goes, Bence and Keenan Allen, Baker Mayfield off the board at 10: 02. Long wait for Baker. Najee Braille and Allen. I'm back on the clock. I have two picks left. I'm going to need a quarterback, so I'm going to glance in that direction. I could stack Mr. Marvin Harrison with Kyla Murray. I've talked a lot about Jordan Love How much I like him this year. I think Jared Goff, with the emergence of Isaac Tisla.

Oh, wait, hold on.

Cover your ears. Oh, gosh. We did not adjust it, did we?

I did. I knocked it down 25%. Yeah, it's a brain.

That's 25%.

It's scratching your brain for you, man.

You need to increase it 50% from this.

I'm willing to wait until the last round for my quarterback here. I'm going to take Oli Gordon and make sure that I have Devon Achan insured.

I can't believe you didn't Kyler Murray here to stack with Marv. That's shocking to me that Oli Gordon over.

There's only one team that doesn't have a quarterback, and if Kyle wants to disrupt his own franchise to disrupt mine, that's fine. If anybody else takes a double quarterback, I guess I'll miss out.

I guess I just look at Kyler Murray as the clear best fantasy quarterback left, and then you had the stack.

Yeah, I like a lot of these other quarterbacks.

Yeah, the nice thing is if you pivot, it's not like you're going to be wrecked. I know you like Jordan Love quite a bit. I don't like him. Jared Goff.

You don't? No, he loves him.

Thank you, Mike.

It was right there. Even with Mike apart. Oh, yeah. I forgot his name.

I'm not worried about that too much. We all have one pick. Mike has one right now, and then we all have the final round.

I'm just going to take an upside rookie pick. I like Luther Burden a lot. There's a chance of him really making some noise if we get some slot snaps.

We've got Dylan Samson off the board to Kyle, Ray Davis, Kyle Ray-Davis, Kyle Monungai. Jaden Reid, Blake Corum. We are coming down to the end here. Jordan Addison. I love that pick. Jordan Addison in the final round of this mock. Perfect. Donte Thornton off the board. Cedric Tellman.

Great pick, Brooks.

Off the board. I like all three of them. So far, we're on a roll. Horton and then- Good job, people.

I mean, Jordan, Addison, Thornton, Tillman, and Horton, Tillman, and Horton, that is a four-pack in the 11th round that all could... They feel like they could all do something special this year.

I am back on the clock with my final pick. I did not get Kyla Murray. Kyla Murray went to Kyle, but that's fine. Then I don't have to have Kyla Murray. You know what I mean? If you don't take him, you do not have to have him on your team.

The biggest advantage of someone else drafting him is that you can't.

So I could shoot my shot with Jake May.

If Marvin Harrison is good, was your first wide receiver drafted, wouldn't that mean Kyler's better? No. So it doesn't. No, it doesn't mean that at all. So Marvin Harrison levels up, Kyler's worse. Got it.

No, it doesn't mean that.

It definitely doesn't mean that. We've seen that a million times.

We've seen quarterbacks have two good wide receivers, and then that quarterback is not actually functional for fantasy somehow. It works out that way.

We've been there. They scored what? Like, Cardinal scored 50 million points against the bears, and Kyla was in single digits. This team is weird now. So I will take my One of my finalists for fantasy MVP, Jordan Love, in the 11th round to be my quarterback. I'm fine with that. Brock Purdy goes next. Jason, get ready. You've got one pick left. I hope it's a good one.

I've got three guys I love, but Jaden Higgins here in the 11th round. I know he's right now playing behind some other players, but he's a talented second-round rookie that is needed for the Texans.

All right, we are done with our final mock draft of the 2025 of offseason.

We did it. Next time, it's for real.

Henry, Achan, Javante, and Ollie Gordon at running back. Harrison, McLaurin, Adams, Dunzey, and Cupp at wide receiver. Jordan Love, Sam Laporta are the onesies.

I've got onesies of Lamar Jackson and George Kittle, Puka Nakuwa, Nico Collins, Debo Samuel, Keenan Allen, and Jaden Higgins at wide receiver. And then my running backs are Tony Pollard, Caleb Johnson, Austin Eckler, and Trey Benson.

I have at running back, I got Gibbs, James Cook, Breese Hall, Tank Bigsby. My wide receivers are A. J. Brown, Ted McMillan, Emeka Abuka, Jerry Judy, and Luther Burdon. Then I got Dak and his tight-end, Jake turd, Ferguson.

You ended up with the last pick in the draft. Final thoughts you guys have on the way the draft ended up?

I think that it's hard to draft from the 12 spot. You've got to make sure that you're staying open to who's on the board. This was a good group of drafters, so I think it was difficult, but I'm happy how it turned out. I'll just have to scour the waiver wire for the running back diamonds in the rough.

Gainwell is still out there, I think.

Sure. Yeah.

No show.

He'll stay there.

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