Transcript of Trump and Minnesota, Venezuela's Opposition, Trump's Healthcare Plan

Protests are growing in Minnesota after the second shooting by a federal agent in the state.

President Trump is threatening to send in the military on top of the thousands of federal agents already there.

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President Trump has threatened to take military action against Minnesota to stop the protests in Minneapolis.

On Wednesday, immigration officers shot another man, this time in the leg, which sparked unrest on the city's north side.

And parents, Meg Anderson is in Minneapolis and is with us now to give us latest Good morning, Meg. Good morning. Looking at this from the outside, things seem pretty volatile, but thankfully, you're there. So could you just describe what you're seeing?

Yeah, there are now as many as 3,000 federal immigration officers on the ground or arriving soon here in the Twin Cities. That's nearly five times the number of Minneapolis police officers. And the city is sometimes quiet until it is really, really not. And that's because the fierce resistance to this ICE surge continues to be noisy as community members are following immigration officers in their car, honking and whistling. Here's how that sounds. And I should note the observers filming and making noise. Those peaceful acts of resistance, even though they're chaotic, are protected by the Constitution. But ICE has responded to some confrontations over the last week with a lot of aggression. Over the last five days, NPR reporters, myself included, we've seen ICE officers using tear gas, flashbanks, and pepper balls to disperse crowds. But the community here, it's responding in quieter ways, too.

Well, say more about that, if you would. How so?

Yeah. If you drive around the Twin Cities, you'll see parents and other community members standing guard outside of schools and daycares with whistles around their necks. Residents are collecting food donations and giving rides to people who are afraid to leave the house, and people are afraid to leave their homes. I spoke to one woman, an asylum seeker with two young US citizen children. She has to only be identified by her first initial, because she's afraid she'll be deported if she's identified. She has not left her home in several weeks. She said she feels like she can't see a future, a stable tomorrow for herself or her family. And these fears, being afraid to leave the house, they're not unfounded. Npr reporters have witnessed immigration officers stopping and even detaining people of color seemingly at random on the street. I should note that just yesterday, the ACLU filed a lawsuit against the administration, accusing it of racial profiling against Latino and Somali people here.

President Trump also threatened yesterday to use the Insurrection Act against Minnesota. Would you explain exactly what that would mean?

Yeah. So first, the President has threatened to use that law many times before and hasn't. Still, in a post on Truth Social, he said he would invoke the act if state officials don't, Stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the Patriots of Ice. That law is more than 200 years old. It's controversial. Basically, it would give the President sweeping powers to deploy the military here without the state's consent. The last time it was invoked was during the 1992 riots in Los Angeles.

And how are local leaders responding to this?

So, Minnesota attorney general, Keith Ellison said he would challenge the use of the law in court. He emphasized in a statement to NPR that, Minnesotans are responding peacefully. There's no reason for that law to be invoked. Senator Amy Klobechar has said the administration is escalating the situation and not the other way around.

That is NPRS Meg Anderson. Meg, thank you.

You're welcome.

Venezuela's leading opposition figure came to Washington, DC, to meet with President Trump for the first time and presented him with her Nobel Peace Prize.

Maria Corina Machado is making a push to remain part of Venezuela's future after the US military operation that led to the seizure of deposed leader, Nicolás Maduro. Trump has sidelined Machado and is backing Venezuela's acting President, who at the same time yesterday, was in Caracas giving a defiant and at times compliant speech before lawmakers.

For more, we go to Empire of South America correspondent, Kari Khan, who joins us from Rio de Janeiro. Kari, good morning.

Good morning.

Maria Moreno Machado gave her Nobel Peace Prize, at least her citation to Trump. Why?

She told a reporter she presented it to him as, A recognition for his unique commitment with our freedom. Trump did confirm he accepted it on social media. He wrote, Maria presented me with her Nobel Peace Prize for the work I have done. Such a wonderful gesture of mutual respect. Machado has been trying to carry favor with Trump since she received the prize. Trump has long bemoaned not being awarded it. After the US capture of Maduro, Trump shockingly announced he was not backing Machado. He said she didn't have the support or respect Effect within Venezuela. Recent polling by Bloomberg and The Economist show she still has substantial support, and her party is widely believed to have won the disputed 2024 presidential election by a landslide.

Let's turn to the person that President Trump is backing in Venezuela, the interim President, Delce Rodriguez, who was obviously a part of the previous regime. She was giving a big speech in Venezuela at the same time that Machado was in DC. It was an interesting split-screen image. So what did Rodriguez The timing was extraordinary.

Rodriguez gave a scheduled state of the nation speech. She was stepping in for deposed President Maduro. Rodriguez has been walking this balancing act. She tries to appease hardliners in the government with defiant talk while also making sure not to upset Trump. And yesterday, she definitely did just that. She's saying, Look, pretty much our country was attacked, invaded by the strongest military in the world, the nuclear power, so we have to resume diplomatic relations with the US, and we can't be afraid to do that. But then she added, If one day I go to Washington, she says it will be on her terms.

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I will do so standing tall, not being dragged, never crawling, she said. She said she's also open to foreign investment in the state oil industry. The Trump administration has already announced it's begun selling Venezuela's oil.

Did Rodriguez say anything about releasing more political prisoners?

She did say there is a massive release underway and it will continue in what she says is this new era of tolerance of opposition in Venezuela. Families of prisoners are still holding vigil at prisons and waiting for releases. Here's Aurora Silva. She's at a maximum security prison outside Caracas. She's been waiting for days for her husband, who's a member of Machado's opposition party, to be released. He was picked up in the widespread repression following the dispute of 2024 presidential elections. She says they need to fulfill their promise of this massive freeing of prisoners. She says, And finally, end all of our suffering and pain. They've been waiting there for days overnight in the cold and in terrible conditions, waiting for these releases. The government says more than 400 prisoners have been released. Rights groups say that number is in the dozens, and there are more than 800 political prisoners still in jails in Venezuela.

That is NPRS, Kari Khan, in Rio de Janeiro. Kari, Thank you.

You're welcome.

President Trump repeatedly promised a replacement for the Affordable Care Act throughout his first term in the White House. Now, a year into his second term, Trump says he finally has a plan.

Today, I'm thrilled to announce my plan to lower health care prices for all Americans and truly make health care affordable again. We're doing things that nobody's ever been able to do. We're calling it the Great Health Care Plan.

Npr, Selena Simmons-Duffin covers health policy and is with us now. Good morning, Selena.

Good morning, Michelle.

So what are the highlights?

Well, what came out yesterday was a fact sheet. It's very sparse on details, and the policy is mentioned there are not really new. It's like a greatest hits of Republican health policy ideas packaged together. You've got the idea of tying drug prices to what people pay in other countries, health savings accounts, and better price transparency.

But is this the affordable character replacement that President Trump has been alluding to for years.

Well, it doesn't mention repealing Obamacare. Again, it's short on details, but it seems like they'd like to let people use federal dollars to buy plans that don't offer comprehensive coverage. These are sometimes called skinny plans or junk plans. That could seriously weaken healthcare. Gov, which has plans that can be expensive, but they offer essential benefits and don't discriminate if you have pre-existing conditions. Also, there's one idea that was conspicuously missing from Trump's plan, and that is extending the enhanced subsidies for Affordable Care Act plans. The timing is really telling since this announcement came yesterday on the day that open enrollment ended for healthcare. Gov, although it still opened in a few states until the end of the month.

There have been a lot of stories about people dropping coverage. You've done a lot of those stories. Do you know yet how open enrollment went?

Well, enrollment is down for the first time in five years. Obamacare marketplaces have hit records every year since the enhanced subsidies were passed. Last year, total enrollment was 24 million, but now those extra subsidies have expired. And earlier this week, the agency that runs healthcare. Gov released data showing 22. 8 million people had picked a plan as of January. Cynthia Cox of the Nonpartisan Research Organization, KFF, says that surprised her. Honestly, the sign of numbers look stronger than I expected. I thought that more people would have dropped off by now. But she says the numbers aren't final. They show how many people auto-renewed or selected a plan, which is basically like putting it in a shopping cart online. It doesn't show how many people paid their premium, and premiums are sky high compared to last year for a lot of people. Cox also said some people may have signed up hoping Congress would make a deal to revive the enhanced subsidies that make premium costs so affordable.

But how likely is that?

Well, there was a big boost to momentum when the House passed a bipartisan extension earlier this month, but talks in the Senate seem to have slowed down, and Republican senators involved in the talk seem to acknowledge that Trump releasing this plan the day open enrollment ended takes the wind out of those sales. Although Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, for one, says she is not giving up, she told reporters on Thursday after Trump's plan came out, I don't think it's too late to try to salvage something.

That is NPR Selena Simmons. Selena, thank you.

You're welcome.

That's up first for Friday, January 16th. I'm Michelle Martin.

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