Transcript of Pat Bev Return To NBA? Embiid Suspended, Maxey Needs Last Shot & Starting 5 US Presidents As Hoopers

The Pat-Bev pod with Roon. Roon. International Pat. Ip address has nothing to do with computers. That's the international international pat address. Going down easy. Going down easy like a Malbec, a Shablil, a Monte Polchiano, or a Nero Davila, whatever he may be smoking, whatever country, whatever he may be drinking, whatever country he might be in. Oh, nice. It's chigarra.

I keep a stogie on me. They say, ain't no weed out here, so I got to keep a stogie out on me, but I don't smoke anyway.

Right, exactly. Except for the hookah and fools like you on the basketball court. How are you? I'm magnificent, my friend. It's truly basketball season. A lot has happened. We have so much to talk about.

A lot has happened. Thug is free.

Thug is free. Free thug, bro.

Until it's backwards.

No, It's all the way backwards. Yeah, it's backwards. It's all the way backwards. And wow, welcome home to my number one slime. I'm home, thug.

I don't know if you watched the pot, but when they had you in there all fouled, we were sending our wishes. We were saying, free thug. So if you watch the pod, man, it was always free thug, love fire.

I hope he got the money I put on his books, but I'm happy he's home.

Yeah, free thug, a thug of free.

It was the least that we could do. I hope He makes some great music when he gets back. I know that the world has been missing some. Yeah. I wonder if they have autotune in the prison system.

Yeah, but we don't have to worry about that because he ain't in there no more. Thug free. Cheers.

Cheers. Welcome home, my friend. Super excited to have him home. And I mean, basketball is abounding. We have so much to get to across the NBA. We could talk about the Celtics being perfect. We could talk about the Thunder being incredible. We could I'm not going to talk about it. Insane Rookies or new MVP candidates.

You ask the questions, I answer. That's how this pie will be today.

Yeah, that was more of a little preview type of thing, giving people a taste of what's to come, because at first I wanted to let you get it off your chest Because you're fresh off the court after some nice EuroLeague action. Eurocup.

They beat our ass today. So this week has been tough for us because our big man, Jonathan Motley, we were in Shaq. I came to Tel Aviv because I knew he was on a team. All of a sudden, my boy hit us with the pump fake, said he don't feel safe no more. Leaves team unheard of. Our leading score, the best big man in Europe Cup. Oh, I don't feel safe anymore. Leaves team wants to go to your lead team in Serbia.

What?

So now we just out here with no big man, just like, Okay, where do we go from here? So of course, now people ask me, Hey, yo, Pat, what you going to do? Because some NBA teams call. They told me, I can't say who on a pod. Literally, NBA teams told me, I can't say who, so I can't say who.

Can you say who?

I can't. I want to, but I can't.

I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask.

I know. Euroleague teams call, Real Madrid call, a couple of the EuroLeague teams out there to see, okay, are you guys blowing it up? What was going on? Because our big man just scored 30 and left. 30 points, I'm out.

What? That's not right.

I mean, but he's doing what's best for him. What do you think is best for him? But it's the way of doing things. You don't do it like that. But shout out to Mott. He got that bag. Happy for you. See you down the line.

Is there anything behind that I'm happy for you? Do you feel abandoned?

A little bit because he know I came here because he was here. Obviously, I came here for the coach. I didn't know too much about the country, but my initial point of coming here was, Okay, Big Mike, that's my man. We played with the Clippers together. He was my rookie. Yeah, for sure. That's who?

Wow.

We're Shaq and Kobe here. Literally Shaq and Kobe.

Literally.

Rest in peace, Kobe. John Stockton and them alone. It was wild, the school we was doing.

That breaks my heart. Well, it's a different type of hooping, but you were You're doing yourself today.

Yeah, but that shit don't matter when you lose.

You got to win. You came to win.

I came with a team. You got four motherfuckers that was on the team. They ain't on the team no more.

What? You guys are the Big Green now? You're sending out ragtag squads now?

I don't know, man.

But whatever. You can control what you can control, right?

But I'm going to get it together. You know me. I ain't going out like that. I'm going to get it together.

Cheers, brother. I heard that. I'll drink to that, no doubt in my mind. They're doing a fire drill in here right now. The fire marshal is screaming over, talking about an election fraud or something like that.

So I guess for people who don't know, you can't up and leave, right? But since we're in Tel Aviv and since we're in Israel, you can always use war as a reason of leaving.

Damn. So was that his stated excuse?

Yeah, that was his stated excuse, I don't feel safe. But someone else did that on Macabre, a guy named Jordan Lloyd. Oh, I don't feel safe. Thank you for everything. Was able to leave. So guys are getting the money. Israel paid a ton of money, getting the money. A couple of months later, they're using the war to leave to go somewhere else. It's fucked up.

Interesting.

Yeah.

That puts you in a delicate position, I think.

Yeah, because I came here to win, and I came here to be on a specific team. So We'll see.

Interesting. So viewers can stay tuned and see what the next chest moves are going to be?

Yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah, I've been thinking a lot. I've been thinking a lot. What's the next move? What to do? What to not do? Do I go back to the NBA? If I go back to the NBA, do I turn my back on my teammates? That's not my style. I don't operate like that. I'm in it for the long run.

But this isn't the circumstance that you signed up for. In so many ways as well.

That's the thing. I have some decisions to make, and I'm going to make the right ones like I always do. But like I said, I've been truly happy here. They've been making sure I'm straight, so we'll see.

Your next move will be a chest move, and the next move will be your best move. I truly can't wait for that.

Low down, low down.

I'm not low down, bro. What country are you in right now?

I'm in Belgrade. I'm in Serbia.

You're in Serbia right now? Yeah. Damn. How is Serbia? What's it like out there?

Hold on a motherfucker, bro. You can see your sentences when you talk.

They just come out like alphabet soup.

Like, man, I got the pod. That's the thing on NBA, though.

There's literally so much to talk about. The league has fully launched into full swing.

Max, you got to get that last shot.

We got to talk about the fact that Paul George finally made his debut with the Sixers, and he's been injured for a little bit. A lot of strife in Philadelphia. Shit's not good.

Hey, get off me.

Which one do you want to talk about first? Joel Embi getting his three-piece from the league. And I'm not talking about a suit, but there might be a suit involved if the law is on the line. Or should we talk about Paul George and Tyrese Maxi in their current predicament as to who gets to take the final shot? A predicament which manifested itself in the very first game that Paul George played.

Let's go, Joel, It was necessary. I don't condone violence. I repeat, I do not condone violence. But some motherfuckers just need a little... I ain't telling you the whip, motherfucker, but Some people go out their way to try to be bad, be mean, be nasty, and that's not the way to go. First off, you don't talk about the dead. Everyone knows that you don't talk about the dead. Everyone knows that you don't talk about the dead. Anything that has to do with the dead, you don't you speak about. Secondly, you don't speak on anyone's kids. Those are two no-no. Two no-no. Unfortunately, the situation in Philly, Joel did it. They gave him three games. He go serve his three games like a grown ass man. So here's what it is.

I think that it's disgusting behavior by that reporter. That reporter is a card-carrying loser. First ballot, Hall of Fame loser. He's stamped as a loser. He'll go down in the history books, have a Dwyane Wade style statue of his face in the Loser Hall of Fame. Dude, that guy has always tried to be this- What's his name? Marcus Hayes, Philly reporter, has always tried to be this incendiary- Hold on, let me look him up.

Let me look him up. Let me look him up, Ronski. Marcus Hayes.

He's always tried to get under people's skin. He's always tried to have the hot take. He doesn't represent his own views genuinely. I know him. I don't know if you know him, but that is just... He doesn't even talk in the way that he believes.

I don't know him. I haven't seen him.

He just tries to start a fire, and it's disgusting. And the fact that he said that Embiid and his dead brother wouldn't be proud of him, that's so fucked up to say. And he's lucky that he only got a little bit of a forearm shiver, because I think Joel and B would have been just But unfortunately, if you're seven foot, 280 pounds, you're going to look like the bully in that situation when you put someone on the ground who's a bit of a pencil-pushing nerd, you know what I mean? A guy who strokes keyboards and egos.

After they kept pushing the buttons before. Joel came out at the Philly practice facility. Like, man, it's bullshit. I played her. I gave sweat, blood, and tears to the city. You know what I mean? I have my son in the city. I've done so much to the city for you guys to treat me like this and talk to me. It was like, few the guy needed the next time. Like, few he needed. You don't do no shit like that. I'm going to tell you something, though, Ron, Joel better than me. Oh, yeah. I would have gave him Maynots. You know what may not is?

What's that?

May go away, may not. That motherfucker, yeah. He would have got some Maynots. He would have got some Maynots. Yeah, I would have seven to eight games. Yeah, Joel, you better than me. I tell you that.

I mean, he has three, you have three.

Sticks and stunk may break my bones, but worse, you'll never hurt me. Bullshit.

Sounds good on paper.

Yeah, what the kids say? Come join the flow in Titanic.

Bullshit.

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. I tell you.

I think the onus should be on the Philadelphia 76ers to revoke that man's press credential, at least on a temporary basis. They took away our press credential because a producer asked what it was like to play against Pap F, and they took away a press credential. This guy is making- They called us a plant.

They said we planted it.

Bro, just because we're trying to experience growth, suddenly we're plants. It doesn't make sense, dude.

Just because we're- I got three, too.

That's what I mean. So you got three, he got three.

Coming back, I got three at the dough waiting on me. Motherfucker like this.

You got three, he got three. But then they suspended us, and they didn't suspend him. They didn't suspend this reporter who's literally picking fights, making it an uncomfortable workplace for the star player of the team. No wonder he thinks Philly hates him because dudes like Marcus Hayes are the mouthpiece of Philadelphia. It shouldn't be like that. That does not represent anybody. He's just trying to get this sports talk radio fadder going for people, and it's losing.

And he gets it going now. Regardless of what happened, now he's the star. You know what I'm saying? That's the fucked up part. That's the thing with media that people don't understand. It's no such thing as good media or bad media. It's just whatever.

Unless you're Marcus Hayes.

You know what I'm saying? Regardless of what happens, this guy's following is bigger. Shit, I just looked them up. You know what I'm saying? Anything he say has to matter now for some reason. But that's the media. That's the media world.

I mean, I just hope that he goes down in history with the clown nose on. Full makeup, tiny car.

He already got the clown nose on.

No, but for history, not just for this small saga, this little chapter, I hope that he has the clown nose permanently tattooed.

He's a type of motherfucker come back to work with neck brace on. You say his name, he turned his neck all the way around like this, though. He's one of them motherfuckers. You got to watch out for him.

You all saw it. This man accosted me.

Yeah, he wanted a motherfucker, so you got to watch out for him.

He's litigious. Sad state of affairs.

Max, you need that ball.

Why do you say that? Because I know Paul George is your man.

Paul George, my guy, love PG to death. I played with both of them. The shiftiness in the crowd that Max he brings, he's going to bring a double team. A lot of people understand. A lot of shit PG do, a lot of coaches, you'll live with that. That's what they're thinking in their mind. Yeah, we'll live with a contested mid-range for Paul George. It might not have been that case. I don't know.

But he'll make you pay for it a lot of times, too.

Yeah, five, six, seven years ago, it might not have been that case. But like I said, the game is changing. These young guns can go. You just see Tyrese Max get in one on KD flex. And it's his birthday. I'm giving him the Rock just off his birthday. It's going to be great.

And he's also been playing for the first seven games or whatever of the season. He's a little bit more fresh. He's leading the NBA in minutes. He's third in the league in scoring right now. They're running everything through him.

He heard what I said, bro. You heard what I said, bro? You heard what I said? He needs that Rock. He needs the Rock. He got to finish that on your birthday? On your birthday? Yeah, go ahead. Be great. Happy birthday, my boy. That's my gift to you. My Paul Jordan, my gift to Here, this is my gift to you, your world.

Yeah, he should have had the rock. But hopefully, it's a learning experience. But I'll tell you what, Sixers need all the learning that they can get. I was at the game on Friday night, and they lost to the Grizzlies, and they're just not looking right right now. They're in the bottom of the East.

My overseas coach told me, he said, Pat, every team that you play for, it's not looking too good.

The Sixers and the Bucks are in last place. In the entire NBA.

Man, you got to understand, each game that come on this way, it's on one, two in the morning. So I'm like, okay, let me stay up. Let me take a nap to try to catch the game. I watched the Bucks game, bro. It's a whole different team, man. The vibe and the energy look different on a court. It's hard to watch, man. And you got to think. Now, I want people who listen to the Pots, you all I don't understand exactly what I'm saying. For me, I don't know about for any other NBA player, but for me, when I go into a situation, I play for a team, any team, I absorb everything. I absorb the city, the fans, my teammates. I absorb it. It's us against the whole world, regardless if I'm there a month, three, four years, three months, regardless of how long I'm there, I absorb everything. Okay, I'm a motherfucking buck. I bleed green. Fear the motherfucking deer. You know what I'm saying? I was shocked this summer. I was shocked this summer. And that's the way they going. That shit ain't going to work. I knew that.

Why not?

No dogs. You feel me? Ain't no dogs. No dogs. Nobody is going to be like, No, we ain't doing it that way. We doing it this way. You feel me? I'm not even saying I was the voice of the locker room when I was with the Bucks, but you felt me when I walked through the room. You knew when I was on the court, I'm going to impact the game some type of way. Our second unit was fucking rolling when I was with the Bucks. Me and Bobby was fucking cooking. So it's just frustrating seeing them struggle because I know the potential and talent that they I have still. You know what I'm saying? So it's just a frustrating part. A part of me still is like a buck because obviously I just was with them. I was just with them in the payoff in the trenches, knee deep. No Yannis, no Dame. So it hit different. It's me, Chris Middleton, Bobby, Brook, like bees. We're trying to... Pat Connison, AJ Green, we're trying to find a way to be Indiana without our superstars. You know what I'm saying? So it just hurt a little bit more when I see them struggling early.

I tapped into the fan base's pulse last season, and I've tried to keep on top of that. It seems like they're less enthusiastic about Bobby Portis right now. I expected AJ Green to take a step this year. And then I started- He played well last weekend. Yeah. Yeah. And he has it in him. That guy is a great spot-up shooter. He should be able to be very impactful with not a lot of the ball in his hands for a lot of time. And then the deeper I look, I start seeing trade talk. I start seeing people trying to trade Giannis to the Thunder for 21 first-round pics. I got producer Tyler talking about a Dame Lillard for Jimmy Butler trade.

But that comes when you start off slow and start losing. But it's so crazy how the NBA is that you even forget that they're missing Chris Middleton. You know what I'm saying? So don't... That's not...

You like the Dame for Jimmy Butler idea?

Hell, no. I love it. I love Dame as a teammate, man. I love Dame as a teammate, man. It hurt. It's frustrating.

To not be there.

Yeah, to not be there. I ain't going to lie. Because When you go through a season with a team, it's okay, that's different. But when you go through the play off room, when you go on a play off with somebody, you see exactly what type of player they are. You see the weaknesses, you see the strengths, and you get to know people more and more, more and more throughout the play off, bro. And it's fast because you can see a guy who steps up to the spotlight, and you can see a guy who shines away. Okay, cool. You can shine away, but I'm going to pick you back up. It's so much that goes in when you play with a team in a payoff. It's just hard. It's just hard watching them move, man. It's just hard. It's just hard. It's hard watching them.

It seems like you would have a good shorthand with not only the head coach, but D-Han. Yeah. And the rest of the coaching staff. But I mean, those are two guys who- No, three guys.

They even got Greg Buckner, who was my assistant coach at the Houston Rockets on there, too. So they got a whole crew that I'm very familiar with. But it's a long season. We'll see. It's frustrating, man. It's just hard to watch the Bucks, man. Watch Philly, watch Clippers. You know what I'm saying? It's just hard to watch them.

Yeah. The Eastern conference is in shambles right now. No, check it out, though.

I'm going to put this out here.

Okay.

I don't know if I should, but I am.

Do it.

So I signed my deal with the Clippers, right? I got a three-year 50 million dollars from Sacramento. And I'm like, No, I'm cool. You know what I mean? I want to stay Clippers. So I take the three-year 40 million from the Clippers, right? We go to the meeting at the Ritz in Morena Del Rey, and Frank is there. Steve Ballmer is there. A bunch of people there. Doc is there. We agree to the three of your 40, and Steve Ballmer goes, Pat, with that, I'm going to give you 94 basketball courts that you could choose to put all around LA. I'm like, damn, that's fire as fuck. So I think they build two of them. I think I have a bike giveaway of one of them. My name's on a court, Patrick Brevly Court. I give out 100 bikes, and then COVID hit. So I hit my age and like, what's up with those 92 basketball? I see they just built the arena worth 2 billion.

Yeah. What's the answer? Let's go with the courts, Steve.

Do I get my 92 courts? Steve.

Steve can't say 94 and give you two.

Give him your Dukes.

That's like if you said you were Mr. 94 feet and you only guarded the inbound pass.

And we shook on it, too.

So I'm like- Steve.

Me, I ain't a petty motherfucker. I'm always a man of my work. I like to keep my work. I like to honor my deals and my contracts and shit like that. So Steve? I need 92 more courts to overrun. I got a lot going on. I want to do for the city of Los Angeles, man. I got 92 courts. I want to build still.

Damn, that's not right of Steve. I would think that Steve would be a man of his word. I don't know if they could find the real estate.

Maybe he just forgot. I look at it like that. Maybe he just forgot. And you know me, I brung it back up. I was on a pose and saying, I think, Minnesota. I'm like, What the Where the fuck my court set? What's up? Oh, you want to talk to Steve? What the fuck I got to talk to Steve? Where the court set?

Yeah, let's make it happen.

What's going on?

Do they have to be in Los Angeles?

I mean, that was the original deal, but at this point...

He's going to put you in South Dakota.

I don't know. I just want 92 courts, man.

He owes you 92 courts.

I mean, I fulfilled my contract. I was on a team with the furthest we've ever been. That was the team I would start on, Western Conference Finals with the Clippers. That's the furthest they've ever been.

Steve, get it together.

I would think that the deal when we did this, Yeah, blood off. Yeah, I would think that would be honored, but we'll see. We reached out. You know what I'm saying? Maybe. I don't know.

I'm sure Steve won't sweat it.

Yeah. After that $2 billion deal, that's light. This ain't nothing but four, five, six million. It's light.

James Harden, we have 92 courts for you. What the fuck? Yeah.

That threw me off a little bit. I damn. All right. Say less.

They probably had the 92 courts, and then they just added up numbers, added up people's numbers to try and get to 92 to try and make it make sense.

You know what I mean? I'm like, so who do I ask for my courts?

Because that was part of- Can we get the man in his courts?

I just want my 92 courts so I could give to the kids, man. That's all, man. Honestly- I just want what they promise.

No, seriously, give the people courts or we're going to take it to the people's court. No, no, no, no, no, They shook hands.

They already got some shit going. They already got motherfucking suing them left and right, bro. We ain't going to do that.

No, bro. We're taking it to the people's court.

Balmer.

Me versus you.

He a man of his word, man. So I ain't worried about it. I'll get him someday.

Fair enough. Speaking of the Clippers, though, I saw James Harden playing some lockdown defense. Mm-hmm.

Well, shit. Speaking of lockdown defense, when me, nine blocks.

Nine blocks, 5, 5, 5, 5, Who is the best sent down? Bet you said he is on your top five.

But they won. Do have 17 and what? 12?

And the Spurs just can't seem to exactly figure it out, because when you look at their roster from top to bottom, it's talented, it's young, it has veteran leadership. Why can't they figure it out in Wemby's second season? I guess it's a young season.

Fuck all that. Prayers up to pop.

I hope pop gets through it, man. That's so tough.

Pop coming into the arena like, I'm like, Kid in Candy store. I can't wait to pop walk in just to say hello, just to greet him, just to say, what up, pop? He cursing me out. Like, what's up, motherfucker? You playing tonight? You playing tonight? So, yeah, prayers up for pop, man.

Prayers up to pop. He's always been a guy who's not afraid.

I would have had another coach, man, an NBA. Shout out to pop.

Not afraid to speak his mind either. Yeah, prayers up to pop. That's tough, man. And especially with a young team that's trying to build their identity, not having your coach around is definitely a negative... Negatively impacts things around there.

I'm going to tell you one thing about pop assistance. All of them are focus here coaches, so they ain't going to miss nothing. Trust me. They pop train them very well.

Yeah. His coaching trees Insane.

Insane. Insane. Truly insane.

Give Becky Hammond a shot. Give Coach Becky a shot. Let her spin a little bit. But yeah, Harden is playing defense. You got two chips?

You got two chips? Yeah. I ain't talking about potatoes, neither.

No.

Nba bags. Yeah, she held it down.

Yes, 100 %. She's killing it. Harden was playing defense. Russ is playing some defense. Russ filling out stat sheet. Wait, Russ doing beautiful things out there.

One thing about Russ, right? One thing about Russ that people have to understand. To me, Russ is about a seven during regular season. When Russ gets to the playoff, you all go see a whole different side of Russ, boy. That's the thing. Russ is a... He's played so many games, man. He is a big-time, lights-on basketball player, so all his damage is going to be done in the playouts. I can't wait to see Russ in the playouts with that team. We talked about- We talked about- Russ is 41, 42% in the playouts.

From three?

From three. You know what I'm saying? Knocked down free throws. When those guys went down and he was with the Clippers. He held it down. He was killing. So Denver, you watch out for Denver, man. Watch out for Denver.

Christian Braun, we talked about him before the season as being a next factor, and now he's yamming on Gober.

Hey, how go bird didn't get kicked out, bro. That's fucked up. That's a guy looking over Austin Reeve. I bump him, shoulder check him. He fall. Go bird literally gets dunked on, grab a man by his neck, hit him and everything and stays in the game. It's wild to me, bro. It's wild. I don't even understand the balance with it all. Is it the person that's doing it? Is it for real? Because it's crazy. If I would have did that, I would have been suspended five games.

But I don't think that you would have flinched this hard when Russ came over.

That man fell so jumped off his French bones, didn't he? I haven't seen him up for a little like that. I said, I knew it. That's why Draymon choked you. I knew it. That man took a step back, didn't he? Russ ran up on that man. That man like a...

That was instinctual.

Frenchie.

Yeah, Russ did come in like a Pitbull for sure as well.

At a Frenchie.

A Pitbull and a Frenchie.

For real? That's exactly what that was.

Yeah. Two dogs. Different breeds, though.

Different breeds, though.

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That motherfucker twisting the twirl and he doing shit that I had. You see, motherfuckers doing an all-star game.

That was a pirouette.

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He remind me a big zoo. Eedy. Eedy. Can I even talk about the garden?

Big E. He's sick.

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Well, I believe Asian is a part of China. China is a part of Asia. But he's Japanese.

He's from Japan. I just want to make sure I get everything correct. I don't want to disrespect nobody or culture.

You could say Asian is a good blanket term, but I believe he's from Japan.

Okay, cool. That's the Japanese kid.

But he is- I love him. He's amazing. I love him. I got an up-close and personal view of him, and he's not tall, and that makes it all the more appealing of how winny he is as a player.

When you say not tall, you mean your shoulder or your nipple?

I think probably shoulder, closer to shoulder. Okay, say less. But still, though- You're not a tall man at all, either. What does that mean? What the fuck? You're not like a shot. What? What? The fuck was that?

You like 5, 10? No.

What? I'm taller than you. What the fuck are you talking about?

Wrong. Relax. Relax.

Brother, there's photographs Graphic evidence of us standing next to another.

Bro, you're not taller than me.

What?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I mean, are we measuring 100% of every metric, bro? No matter how you slice it, centimeters, inches, feet. I'm telling you.

Not every metric. I got a third leg over here, bro. Not every metric. You hear me? You hear me? I'm balancing now.

Look, mom.

Fuck you mean? No, Not too much. We got kids.

Not too much, but just- Motherfucker five. Put a five-nine on me is- And if you're a kid, listen to your parents.

Christmas is coming up.

Royce work. Grant Williams and Tateum going Head to head. Speaking of going head to head.

This is getting out of hand, Ron.

This is just podcast.

We got to control it now. Now it's getting out of hand. This is where the show gets the dipsy dudes The other way.

You're on the wine, bro. I'm just over here on this body armor, bro. My body armor MVP of the week was Jason Tatum for being the bigger man in this situation where a guy who's your former teammate is starting junk with you? This guy starting some bull junk with a guy who he played with. He don't count, though.

Grant, he don't count.

What do you mean?

Everybody knows he don't count. He's not the type of motherfucker. You even like, Okay, that's Grant. Okay, whatever. In his mind, he's supposed to be the enforcer. And in everyone's mind, he's little fish. He ain't even in the sea. The little thing, you buy your. The aquarium? No, he ain't in the aquarium. He at home, the goldfish. He's a little fish.

Just a single goldfish bowl?

Just alone?

Just a little bowl?

Yeah. So you don't even entertain a little fish.

Interesting because it seems like he thinks he's a big, big fish.

No, but I'm going to tell you, he's a big fish, and I like how he composed himself, Draymond Green, when they played the Washington Wizards.

Because Jordan Pooh was really pointing at his head after those three.

Anybody that know Draymond, Draymond Green Oh, smack hand down. Fuck was you pointing that? Kept his composure. Didn't even look his way. Fuck was we talking about?

He can't punch him again.

But you can't even entertain the motherfucker who you done two-pieced already. I have two-pieced you already. What are we talking about?

Well, it seems like he's doing a lot of talking after the fact, after he already got two-pieced. I don't know. Well, what do you think about the DeMar DeRosen and Drake situation?

I told you.

Remember we talked about this? We did. We said, When you have somebody come over to your house, you put out the spread, you make them a nice Thanksgiving turkey, a nice Boxing Day turkey up in Canada. They come over and enjoy your wine, and they sit on your couch, and they watch your basketball, and they play video games against you. And then suddenly-A son call you, it's your uncle.

I don't understand. Mind you, I'm in the back, I'm walking out with certain people people in Toronto. Oh, yeah, this is your uncle, such and such, and this, this, and that, that, and that, this, and that, that. And then I look up, and them motherfuckers, they not like us? They not like us? What's going on? How does that work? That's why I asked, how is the beef? Because where I'm from, I don't let people play that song around me. Not because it's like hatred for Kendra Lamar. It's like, I fuck with Drake. I just fuck with Drake. I done been in this man house. This man done showed me love. I fuck with Drake. They tried to play that shit in our locker room. I'm like, Man, turn that shit off, man. What's wrong with you all? No disrespect to anybody, So love the West Coast of Dev, love Demar DeRosen. Feel me? Like, love Kejia Demar music, but feel me? I'm team Drake.

I thought that Demar Derozen's response wasn't great. It It reminded me of Ben Simmons' response to you when he's like, I'm probably booing you.

No, no, no.

Well, it'll be a long way to climb up to go get that thing.

But Debo, he different. He different. So everybody in the NBA know. Yeah, he different. Trust me, bro. He different. His family different. His friends are different. So what's said don't have to be explained. He different. Don't nobody fuck with Debo. The reason why they call Debo.

I thought it was because of the movie.

Yeah. And?

I thought he was just a big Debo Samuel fan on the 49ers.

His name's straight.

Debo.

His name's straight in Cali.

Got it.

Top 10.

Yeah.

His name's straight.

No, Craig's pops around or anything like that.

His name is straight. Straight. Up and down. Straight.

Got it. The But still, though, you think- I like the DeMars DeRose, and that's the homie, too.

That's the bro. That's the bro. Straight up.

So then what's your take on the situation?

I mean, shit. You got to ride where you from. Debo from Com, Kendra Lamar on West Coast. You got to ride where you from. There's no disrespect.

But isn't there something to be said that if you have feet in both houses to just stay outside when the two homes start going back and forth?

Man, that man named straight. Nobody's fucking with Demar DeRosa off the court. Nobody. I stamped that.

Same, bro. Honestly, he's good in my book, too. Honestly. I've always I heard that about Debo.

Ain't nobody fuck with Divo, but I'm still team Droid, so it is what it is.

Yeah. I mean, it's a very unfortunate situation. Like that, D waged at you, bro. You saw that? You could say it, bro. The statue sucks.

I can't say that.

He didn't build it.

I know, but I still can't say that.

Why?

I'm not even in that position to be like, A statue sucks. I don't even have a statue up with me, so I can't say that.

So you would take a statue that's not a perfect likeness of you at over- Because the statue look like D.

Wade? No. Does a statue look like Mufasa sometimes? Yes.

Mufasa from the Lion King?

Does a statue look like my uncle sometimes? Yes.

It has an uncle-ish vibe.

Yeah, big hair vibe.

Too much hair.

Too much hair.

I think that they could have just pushed it in a little bit. Too much mouth.

Too much jaw.

How did they get it right at the wax museum. Do you know what I mean? They do it perfect at the wax museum. I just saw a picture of Mariah Carey's statue at Madame Toussaint's, the wax museum. And I couldn't tell the difference between the wax person and the real person. How did they get that so fucking perfect? And then our statues are getting worse. Where are the Michelangelos, the Leonardo's, the Rafaellos? You got to think they probably did that from somebody from Miami.

They probably did it, try to show love, the whole Miami, Florida thing. So it's probably someone in-house.

You got to go to Florence, not Florida. You got to go to... You need someone in Italian or something like that.

Yeah, that's where you got to go.

Like someone who owns a smock and is born in the 1400s.

Whoever did Mike statue and the Kobe statue should be doing all statues.

That's what I mean. There's good statues out there.

All the statues.

There's good statues that exist, and we don't have to pretend that every statue is good.

That was a tough one.

Yeah, Yes, that's fair.

He comes up there and said, Who is this guy? Oh, that doesn't work.

See, even he said it. It's not us saying it.

That was tough.

Yeah, I want the best for D-Wade. I've always said, he's staying. He's solid by me. Ask about D. Wade. But, yeah, he'll be all right, though. Let's talk about some specific players. I was going through the top 25 scoring players, and three names popped out to me. Three names popped out that I want to talk about because I think that these players are making a leap right now. These three players are elevating this season, and I want to talk about them. The first one, the high score of the three, is LaMelo Ball. This man is playing a free brand of basketball.

He's always played well. Right.

An involved version of himself, though. He's always played Well, but there's this creativity.. Yeah, so he's always played well.

So that's not surprising to me.

But I think that if he continues this pace of play, this style of play throughout the entire season, he'll start finding his name in conversations where he hadn't been in a year ago.

Because he's been hurt. That's the only reason he hasn't been in there, because he's been hurt, and he's been hurt at bad times. He'll be hurt in the middle of the season. He'll be hurt at the end of the season where the season is about to be over. So you forget about him, and they ain't going to make the play off. He's able to stay healthy. He's a huge guard, 6'4, 6'5, shoot the trade ball. He's swaggy as fuck. You can't teach swag. You know what I'm saying? That's half the reason why he's so good because he's so swag. He shoots tough shots, he shoot one leg shots, he don't give a fuck. Yeah. Shout out to my dad. It's my dad's birthday. Ball brain. You all know what's going on. All the attention is on his older brother, and he's able to just get through the Okay, cool. I'm hooping. I'm doing my thing. It's light. There ain't no pressure. I'm doing my thing. So it's no surprise why he's been successful. It's no surprise. He can hoop.

If his team were as talented as the team in Minnesota, and if they made it as far in the playoffs as that team in Minnesota- That shit won't happen, but okay. If that were the case for him, would he be in a conversation with Anthony Edwards as maybe a future face of the league?

If was the fifth, God damn it, Ron, we all be drunk. That ain't happening. Hold your nose. They stink. God offer.

But what about the young talent that they have over there?

Great young talent.

Brandon Miller?

Great young talent. That shit's going to last 22 games.

So if you're him, then don't you want to get the fuck out of there then?

No, you can't do that. No, you can't do that.

So you want the max contract?

Yeah, you got to get the max. I'm going to get the max. What the fuck are you leaving for? Get the max. Put some pieces around me. Over the years. This is a project. Over the years, we're going to become better. But no, he ain't in no motherfuck conversation, Anthony Edwards.

I said if they had swapped their circumstances.

If was a fifth, god damn it wrong, we'd be on the ground drunk. I keep telling you.

Well, Anthony Edwards should be glad that he wasn't drafted into that circumstance with the Hornets then.

Yeah. No, because if he was drafted with the Hornets, they'd be a playoff team.

So you think that Anthony Edwards is way better than LaMelo Ball?

I think Anthony Edwards is way better than a lot of people in the NBA right now.

So how good is LaMelo Ball? Is he a top 25 player?

No.

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Get yours today at Walmart or a local grocery store near you. Body Armor. Armor your body right. Let's talk about another guy on the top 25 scoring list. Kam Thomas.

Who?

Kam Thomas.

Brooklyn?

Brooklyn.

I fuck with Kam. I've seen him on Elevate in Vegas. He say he fuck with the pot. I fuck with Kam, but he getting this shit off all spot-ups and penetrating kicks. So yeah, he playing well.

Spot-up penetration kicks.

He's on a USA team. What the fuck? You're supposed to play well.

I mean, that's a guy who could score 27 points a game, and he's- He played well in Phoenix.

He just had to get McKeel Bridges out his way so he can hoop. And I tell him on elevator, I say, Look, man, it's a big season for you, man. You got some people out your way. You can fucking hoop now. I'm going to take advantage of it. He has been taking advantage. I don't know if you listen to my advice or not, but he's been stepping up to the plate. I definitely told him that on other day in Vegas.

Dennis Schroeder is also scoring about 20 a game. For D. S.

Can hoop. D. S. Can hoop. He's just an asshole. He funny as hell. That's my man. I fuck with D. S. That's my dog. Dennis, the motherfucking man. That's my man. I love him to death. But yeah, he ass over. That motherfucking hoop. Dennis, D Schroeder can hoop. He can hoop, bro. He can hoop. And then he sent me a pair of shoes, too. I'm wearing them next game in Germany.

Oh, really? You're going to wear some DSs in Germany?

Just for the culture.

You need some German wine, too. A nice. Would sound great. Shout out to Germany. And the third player I want to talk about.

I was three people already, bro. You named three people already.

No, it wasn't. Dennis Schroeder was in the addendum on to Ken Thomas, bro. We were just talking about Brooklyn at the time.

Okay, say last.

My third one is Norman Powell, who is averaging about 25 a game for the Clippers.

But that's what you go get when you got a rolling big in James Harden. See, that's the thing that people don't understand what James Harden does. He makes everyone around him extremely better. So now not only do you have opportunities to catch and shoot, but you have an opportunity to plan off the close-out. When I mean to close it, I mean you catching a ball and someone closing out to you. You can put on the ground, left or right. You can shoot it. You got defense at your mercy. So he's been in a lot of close-out situations because of Big Zoom and James Harden. He's just reaping the benefits off that.

Do you think that he'll be able to keep up this scoring pace throughout the season?

Yeah, he likes to score. He's the type of motherfucker that'll shoot 2022 shots. Don't feel bad. You know what I'm saying? He He wanted to do that in Toronto. He wanted to do that last year, but Paul George was in a way, and now Paul George is gone. So in his mind, he thinks, Fuck it. I'm the new motherfucker. I'm the new and improved Paul George. I'm going to show you what to do with this motherfucker. And he's been playing well, so you got to give him his credit.

Well, if Paul George gave you 25 points, and he gives you 25 points, that's 25 points.

A quarter.

That's a quarter. How about these rookies in Washington, dude? These rookies on the Wizards?

Roni goes, I ain't going to watch no motherfucking Wizards. I ain't going to lie, bro. I ain't going to lie, you're going to sit here.

You're asleep then, bro.

I'm talking at the wheel, too, bro. Come get me.

No, bro. I'm asleep. Get up, bro. It's the fucking- I'm not getting- No, this dude, Bob Carrington, bro. You're going to love him.

I'm cool.

What? He plays the right way, Pat.

Yeah, you can't play the right way and be getting your ass cooked. I'm cool.

He's not getting his ass cook, dude. Who has a better future outlook than the Wizards? They remind me of the Sixers in 2013, when it's nothing but young players, three rookies who are contributing. That's cool.

We've seen how that worked out.

The Sixers, I mean, yeah, that's true.

Fuck you. We see how that worked out wrong.

Yeah, that's very freaking funny.

I'm going to entertain them. We're not going to talk about them motherfuck Wizards on it. Bob Carrington is nice, bro.

He's nice. Bob Carrington. We could talk about Buddy Heel and the Warriors.

How we could talk about that? Steve Kerr playing 12 motherfuckers a night. I love it.

Well, they have 12 guys worth playing.

Steve Kerr says it's the deepest roster I've ever had.

You think they'll trade Kuminga? They shouldn't. And I'll tell you why they shouldn't trade Kumenga. Kumenga gives them building upside. He gives them a versatile A versatile wing center big man who can help in every situation if you want to switch. If you want to have Draymond on the bench, you can have Kumenga fill in that amorphous role. But for some reason, they want to trade him. I think they could get a bunch of first-round pics. He's not a perfect fit for a team that's only shooters like Steph and like Buddy Heel. But But at the same time, he's such a versatile player. He can really be an identity maker.

I can't argue any of that. They have to be very careful with that move, but they're very smart now to go to state office, so they're going to handle that the right way. Because you can either get a lot or you don't want to lose them for nothing, too. So you got to be careful with that one.

It's so interesting what teams are going to do with their capital because you look at the Thunder record and it's like, Oh, their team is just good Good right now. And I would almost be scared if I was the Thunder to fuck around too much with their 20,000 draft picks. They have so many first-round draft picks in the future that if you try to consolidate them and try to package it for a Giannis or try to package it for a Kumenga, and you wind up messing with the formula of what you have, you might thin out your bench.

No, you're not going to mess with that formula. That coach is really good. That coach is really, really fucking good. Shay is really, really good. Really good. Anything added to them is a plus. With that coach and Shea Gildas, Alexander and Chet, anything else is a plus. They got two unicorns, and Chet and Shay. You're talking about two motherfuckers that ain't... It's maybe somewhere WMDBE who's close to Chet. No one else is like Shay. So you got two people, two unicorns on the same team with a really good fucking coach. No, no. They just need to keep those two and keep moving pieces around and see what fits and see what doesn't fit. And the next thing you know, yeah, the motherfuckers going to be in a second round. Oh, the motherfuckers going to be in a Western Conference final. Oh, they're going to be in a final. So yeah, it's a project.

But they have so many draft picks that they're going to want to consolidate them to make a big move instead of the many moves that will go around these other players.

And that's what comes with doing your work early, like they've been doing for years and years and years. You look back on it, That trade for Paul George to Shaith, to Galanari, who really won?

It's not even a question anymore.

Do you know what I'm saying?

That's why sometimes the And the consolidation of assets, accruing assets is obviously... It's not easy work, but it's the safe part of the work. Whereas when you have to cash those assets in for a player, I think you can take a misstep. And I think the Knicks made a misstep with the way that they cashed in their assets, because now the Knicks bench is like, weirdly thin. You know what I mean? They had depth. They had a nice rotation. I just think that there's certain ways that when- They only play 8, 9 motherfuckers anyway.

So They don't really worry about their bench too much.

But last season, you had to go deep into their bench because everybody's getting hurt. So it's like, if Randall's out, if Ananobi's not playing, then it's like, okay, now these bench players, while you don't use them a bunch, are going to be a little bit important.

Kat, man. Whocat can hoop.

Cat can hoop. I'm not going to lie about that.

They call him the Big Bodega.

The Bodega?

They call him the Big Bodega. Kat been hooping. Who won in that trade? Be honest.

Neither Neither team, honestly. Okay. Cat been hooping. I think both teams got worse in that trade. Kat been hooping. I agree that Kat is hooping in New York. It's probably great for him to play in New York, but I don't like how... If I was the Wolves, I'm trading Gobert as well. I'm not just trading Kat. I'm trading Gobert, and I'm giving Nas Reid and Julius Randolph.

You're usually good with your takes. I don't like that take. Why not? He's literally the best defensive player of on the world for the last two or three years, numbers-wise. The tick, statistically-wise, what he does, all-turn shots, run protection, defensive rebound, offensive rebound. There's no one even close to the history of basketball since he was a gober. I'm not a We're a fan. He gave the NBA code. You feel me? But being real is real. It's no one else like him. It's no one in ultra shots like him besides Wemby, but there's no one else. He done when he defensively over the last, I don't know, five, six years in NBA history.

Yeah.

For a pick and roll, you see Rudy on that bitch, you I know.

It's just scary. It sounds scary. Unless you're Christian Braun.

That white man can jump, huh?

But I want to see more of Nas Reid. I know how talented Nas Reid can be on the offensive end. I know how talented Julius Randall can be on the offensive end. And it's like, well, you can't be playing Julius Randall, Nas Reid, and Gober together. So it's like, now you have... You think you can?

Yeah, the coach is good. Finch is really good. That's going to come down the line.

All three of them together?

Not all three. Somebody ain't going to be that wrong. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Oh, Julius Randall is getting traded.

Oh, what a one is two, bro. You hear what I'm saying? Somebody ain't going to be there. Sometimes NBA teams showcase them motherfuckers just to see what's the stock on, what we can get from them.

Well, that makes me hate the trade even more.

See what I'm saying? Not if they get somebody good from them, though.

But who are you?

I don't know. You know shit. Whoever thought you could pull out a Rudy Go Bird trade. Tim McConley, you got to tip your feet off to him, bro. He gets shit done. So don't put nothing past him.

Yeah. If Danny Anges is asking for four first-round on the pitch or whatever.

I don't know. We'll see.

We're going to see?

We're going to see.

We're going to see for sure. Who'd you vote for?

I can't vote. I'm overseas.

Of course, you can mail a ballot. Everybody else is.

I'm going to come vote when I get back in the States. But have you voted yet?

In 2028, you're going to come vote? Because today's the day.

No, I'm going to be back in 10 days.

That's not true.

I think I'm the first person in my family to ever vote.

Really? I'm sure Obama thanks you. You and I are the same age.

Yeah. I met Obama one day.

For real?

Real talk. I was at the Chicago All-Star Game, and I participated in a skills challenge because I wanted two years before, but I didn't go the following year in Toronto because I sprained my ankle real bad. So I went in Chicago, held it down for the home team. And I went to one of my favorite restaurants, one called RPM, Steakhouse. And my guy who was a GM or Assistant GM or whatever, his name was Hajie, African guy, really good friend in Chicago. He like, Yo, Pat, the man upstairs. Who the fuck the man? Obama. What? He brought Obama upstairs. He, Fuck that. I'm going to get you over right next to him. You for real? Yeah, you're my homie. I got you. All right. Ron, when they say secret service, I didn't understand what secret service was until I seen this. It was 16 dudes in suits there no one knew about. When I say secret, I mean secret. It must have been a guy on every other stair. While I walked up to my room. It had to have been 16 stairs. So that's eight guys. It was four guys on the ground. It was five guys around his room.

Mind you, I couldn't even see in his room. Everything was down. I walked into my room. It's my I'm in a room, it's Barack Obama. I don't mind if this is February 14th, 15th, like Valentine's Day, whatever. I'm in a room chilling. He walked in. I've never felt star struck about anyone in my entire life until I saw this man. I go, Nice to meet you, Mr. Mr. President, sir. Yo, nice to meet you, too.

It's a good Obama impression.

I would want you guard me. I laughed. No, no, no, no, no, Sir, Mr. President, sir, if there's anything I can do, anything, any services you have, giving back, anything I can do to help, I don't know, anything. Please, please, please let me know. I know your owners, and I know your bosses, I know your coach, and I know your owners, Steve Ballmer. We'll work out something.

He was like, I got 94 basketball courts for you, actually, Pat.

Keep making the city proud.

Wow. That's one for the grandkids.

Then I got Negro with birthday in the cut. He like this.

So you had the picture?

What? You know I got the picture? I'm a Senator Tyler. I got a whole bunch of them motherfuckers, too. Barack Obama. And then why don't no like, we win, we go to the White House. It was just me and Obama kicking dust, kicking shit.

That shit was a vibe. Man, shout out to Obama. I don't know if he listens to the pod, bro, but shout out to him.

Obama, if you listen to the pod, man, I know they got a lot of presidents on and former presidents. We would love. It would be an honor to have you on our podcast. I know that might be saying a lot, but just to say hello. Or maybe Obama, you could just say subscribe to the Pat Bell pod, and we appreciate that.

We'd be good with it. We'd be good. Hey, Obama, keep on making the city proud, brother.

For real. Shout out to Obama.

Shout out to Obama.

I would want you to guard me.

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Should we hit this, New Amsterdam Starting Five?

What's the Start Five?

New Amsterdam Starting Five. Top five US presidents, if they were hoopers. Top five US presidents who could hoop throughout history.

All right, Beth. I'm going to Rock One.

Why? Because it's back. What?

What you mean? But I'm going Abe Lincoln, too.

And not playing the two. He's playing the five.

Yeah, he about 6'6.

He's playing the five. Who else you got?

Benjamin Franklin, three.

Okay. Not a president.

He's on a bill, though.

Yeah, he's not a president, though. Sad to say.

I'm putting them up there. All right.

Fair enough.

Benji Franklin. Anything with that cash.

Keep it Keep it 100.

Keep it 100 from downtown. Rest of the Pieces Sweet Soul. The President that took a bullet for us.

Which one? Kennedy?

The one his wife was holding.

Kennedy. You think Kennedy could hoop? I know he was a football player.

I know he was athletic, so I'm going Kennedy, and I'm going the first Bush.

Oh, Herbert Walker Bush. George Herbert Walker Bush. Yeah, he seemed like a little bit gangly, but I know that the later Bush was an athlete because he had an opening pitch that was a seed. He threw out the first pitch after 9:11, and it was like a perfect strike, 90 miles an hour right down the middle. But he must have learned to throw somehow. And I'm pretty sure his dad... Does his dad own the Texas Rangers or some shit like that?

Okay. So I like that five I got.

Okay. Ben Franklin, Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln, George Herbert, Walker Bush, and John F. Kennedy.

You know what? I take that out. I take that out.

I like that.

No, I take Kennedy out.

Who are you throwing in?

No, I got to throw my boy in that bitch.

John Adams?

No, we could take Ben Franklin out. Why?

No, keep him in for the graphic. It'll be good for the graphic because then people will argue underneath it.

All right, but I'm going to take either first Bush or Kennedy me out, and I'm substituting them for the one and only. Bill motherfucking clean.

You think he was sleep with it?

You talk about a motherfucking gangsta. For sure, he know how to who.

You think so?

For sure, he know how to who.

What shit was he doing?

And he's from Arkansas.

That's true. Raise your back.

They asked him who Who was his top five Razorback, and he said my name.

No, he didn't. Where? Clinton did.

Really?

So who's getting taken out? Kennedy or Bush? Take out Kennedy. Let's take Kennedy. Let's take Take Kennedy out. I'm not going to make a joke about him being a shooter because I think that that's inappropriate. Very inappropriate. I wouldn't make a joke. I couldn't figure it out either. You know what I mean? But that's a good starting five. I think that's a good starting five.

Abe, solid, ain't he?

Oh, my God. If Abe had the fucking... Because that was Jesus's time when Abe Lincoln was walking around. Everybody was 4'5. You know what I mean? The doors were smaller.

And he had a top hat on made him look like he was 7'6.

Right. He's fucking scary in the pain. No one's posting up Abe.

Yeah, I got Barack. I got I got Benji.

And you know, Abe was wiry. They called him the old rail splitter because he would split rails and just fucking talk about the law, dude. That guy loved the Constitution. Hold on.

You didn't mention the obvious thing he did.

Be the slange.

Okay. I don't know what took you so long, bro.

We're talking about basketball, bro.

That's it. You're talking about basketball. You got to talk about Black folk.

All right. Well, I mean, Then let them play. Let Abe Lincoln sit your ass on the bench.

No, no, no, no, no. Abe Lincoln. Shout out to Abe Lincoln, man.

Shout out to Abe Lincoln.

Abe Lincoln came through, man. He was, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not going to go to war. No, these motherfuckers getting free. They're not even fighting for us. We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. If you go to war and come back, you're free. Motherfuckers, they signed me up. I say motherfuckers were signing up, didn't even know how to write, didn't even know how to read.

My goodness. I think that Ben Franklin was pretty anti-slavery as well.

He knew he had them hundreds in his pocket.

Thomas Jefferson, on the other hand, though.

That man, Hundred, though, didn't he? That's Benji Franky.

Benji Franky, man. Shout out to him. But he was a portly man. I don't think he might be able to stand in the corner. You know what I mean? He's built like- Anybody named Benjamin Franklin can Benjamin Franklin does sound like a Black dude.

Benjamin Franklin can shoot.

Benjamin Franklin does sound like a Black dude now.

Now, you think about it. Benjamin Franklin.

Ben Franklin.

Ben.

Ben Franklin. Santa Clara.

You know what I'm saying?

Like a 6'7 shooting guard. Ben Franklin sounds like he has bounced.

I think Ben Franklin cash holding up his phone doing this down in front.

Oh, he definitely is cash.

What is?

He's holding up the kite. That's a celebration with the electricity.

And his number is 100. What can you talk about?

That's cold. He's holding up the 100 like Will Chamberlain.

That's cold.

Damn. Ben Franklin, definitely in my starting lineup.

Jones, guy.

That's so sad. How many Grammys did that dude have? 91 years old, though. Great long life. Rest in peace, his sweet soul.

Hey, Ron, let's talk about it.

Okay.

I know the type of following we got, we're going to get a good pushback from this. What age you think you're going out, Ron?

Oh, my God. Jesus Christ, dude. I hope I make it to 100.

Ron, that ain't happening, Ron.

Why?

You ain't going to be 100.

My grandma just lived to... She was 96.

Okay, that ain't 100. That's 96.

Yeah, but with modern medicine.

Okay, so honestly, what do you think you got?

I don't know. No matter what, it's not going to be enough. I'm not going to be like, Oh, that was enough of life for me. I'm always going to want more.

I think I got 94.

94? Then I got 95.

Like Windows.

Yeah, we're 36 now. So another 60. I think I got another 60 in me.

Is the 60, a free willing, I'm healthy, 60, or a 50 of that 60 is free, willing, I'm healthy. Be?

That's a good question. I don't know. That's why I've been doing capoeira breakdance fighting to try and make sure that I'm as nimble and limber as possible. In any case- But what's your record?

You really got 83.

83 years left. Yeah, that's what I think. I think I'll probably get into the 120 range or something like that. So I think 83 more years.

We're going to kick the shoe at 83.

No, I think 83 more years. If I go out at 83, I'm pissed. 83? I'd be sick to my stomach, fam.

No, you wouldn't be sick. You'll be dead.

Yeah, and I'd be fucking turning in my grave. Pissed off.

Listen, we got to make a deal.

If I die at 83, I'm killing myself.

Listen, we got to make a deal. Make sure you're at my shit, and I'm going to make sure I'm at your shit. We have a good friend. We have a good friend.

We get buried next to each other with both of our hands off a grave, holding a basketball, and it'll be like they died doing what they love, podcasting.

No, I ain't going to do that. Hey, one thing I ain't doing. Why? When they When they lured the casket into the dirt, I'm going to have a chair there, and I'm going to get drunk right with you.

You can't even stand up for the pay your respects?

I'm going to be 80, man. I'm going to be old as fuck. Eighty?

You're not going to be old at 80. You're going to be standing up straight as hell. Eighty-year-olds run marathons.

Yeah, no, I'm not going to lie. I don't put too many miles on these knees already, man.

I'm going to be at your shit being like, It's so hard to say goodbye.

And what if I just rise up? Bro, I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.

I knew you was going to be here, bro. What the fuck is that?

Hey, damn, bro. We are closer to death.

What the fuck is this, bro? Why are you bringing this negativity on me, bro?

That's not negativity. That's really been honest.

That we're closer Closer to death than what? We were yesterday? Yeah. Now, we're not closer to death than being born because even if you're saying '83, we're not even halfway then.

Okay, well, we're closer to death than we were before we started the pot.

Okay, well, that's better than the alternative, and that's being dead. If we're not closer to death, that means you're dead.

Who do you think goes first? Me, you, Mike, Tyler, Jordan.

Probably you.

They say the good guy, young.

Only the good guy, young. Why?

Who do you think? How you want to go out? You want to go out like, I want to go out In Castle, in front of grandkids, kids, arms like this.

Why do you want to traumatize them like that, bro? I want people to see me die.

I want to go out like that. I don't want to go out in a car accident.

Yeah, no shit, dude. What the fuck?

If you had one way to go out, what would it be?

I would want to be surrounded by-options are fire, water, car accident, cancer. What the fuck? I guess I'm getting burned at the stake like Joan of Arc, I guess.

It burns.

I would really want to be surrounded by my Samoan family as my 600-pound grandson is just playing a ukulele of Somewhere Over the Rainbow as I slowly drift off into the next realm.

You'll hear me say, Hey, man, bro, tell that motherfucker, stop playing that bullshit.

Somewhere over the rainbow. And my 600-pound grandson is just fucking strumming, dude. You got to be surrounded by Samoans. That's the most peaceful way to go. I've always said that.

I don't know where you got that from.

Samoans? You don't think that the Samoans are beautiful and strong people?

I believe they're very beautiful and strong. I don't know one.

It seems like you never even thought about it, that some moments are beautiful and strong. I don't know one. They're the strongest men you'll ever see play the tiniest ukulele that you could ever find. A proud people.

Who do you think going out first besides me?

No, You have to say now. I said the last one. You're up now. You're on the spot.

I'm sure George.

Why, Jordan, bro? Jordan lives the happiest, most peaceful, and most fulfilled life of any of us.

I'm going to tell you who going to last the longest, though.

Who?

Mike.

You think so?

A hundred %.

That's amazing.

Wow. It's always the wowers that live the longest.

Yeah, that's true. I could see him making an easy 100.

A hundred and seven.

A hundred and ten. At the nursing home.

Cursing people out, talking about why my being's cold.

He'll be at the cursing home.

He'll be cursing motherfuckers out left and right.

And then some Jamaican nurse is going to right-cross him. Shut your eyes up, Mikey. What the fuck are you talking about? I went Irish.

I got that man, Benz from the Bear's Ron.

Yeah, I'm sure that that was our podcast.

We got this ass bitch. I'm happy.

I'm happy. Well, the bear still lost, so they probably could have used them. Light disciplinary action.

Light.

It's not three games like me, Pat, Joel got.

Mom, they gave us a tray, didn't they?

They gave us a tray ball. 3-3-3. Better than 6-6-6, though. We'll tell you that much.

That much. You damn right. You ain't lying. Speaking on death.

Speaking on death. Who do you think that you'll see first? Jesus or Saint Peter?

I hope Jesus. But I be wanting to see people like, I want to see my grandma. She cool up there type shit. Or I want to see somebody that's like, damn, I don't know if he'll make it. Like one of the homies.

Like who? Did he make it?

I ain't going to say. But one of the homies who had a little bullshit and was like, Did he make it up here? Type shit.

You know who I know is going to be there? Tip. Tip of the Dawn.

No, for sure.

He's stamped, bro. He's such a good soul.

Yes. I think that video I showed you guys, I think that girl broke his heart.

I don't remember seeing any video. I just remember his great sweet soul.

Standing outside of moving vehicles.

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