Transcript of GOP Leaders Instantly Fold at Hearing Under Cross Exam

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Better with every move. Of course, today is the big press conference of the victims of Epstein and Ghislaine that's taking place on Capitol Hill. During the various Congressional Committees, the MAGA Republicans are desperately trying to block the Epstein files from being released, and they're trying to cause distractions, and they're pulling all of these stunts. I mean, one of the things that we're getting word about is that the Trump regime is saying that it is a hostile act if you sign on to the discharge petition, which is a bipartisan resolution by Thomas Massey, a Republican from Kentucky, and Democratic Congress member Roe-Kana from California. And because Maga Mike Johnson is not introducing the resolution himself on the floor as of now, they're doing what's called a discharge petition, where you have to collect the necessary signatures one by one in order to pass the resolution and go around the speaker of the House, in this case, Maga Mike Johnson. So the statement from the Trump regime is helping Thomas Massey and liberal Democrats with their attention seeking while the DOJ is fully supporting a more comprehensive file release effort from the Oversight Committee would be viewed as a very hostile act to the administration.

So Trump saying, If you say, Release these files, and you sign to the Massey Kana bipartisan discharge petition to that resolution. It's a hostile act against the administration. But let me bring you inside the House Oversight Committee so you can see what's taking place in the various committees here as well. House Oversight and Rules and what's generally taking place. Democratic Congress member McGovern really exposed this beautifully when he called James Comer, who chairs the House Oversight Committee in front of McGovern. Mcgovern was like, Democratic Congress member McGovern is like, So do you support the Massey Kana Resolution, bipartisan resolution? Then Comer's like, Oh, it's very disappointing you're trying to politicize it. Here, play this clip.

Do you support the Massey counter resolution, yes or no?

We're already doing it. The discharge petition does not have the force of law. We've already subpoenaed. You can say no. No, look, Mr. Mcgarry, it's very disappointing that you're trying to politicize this. We're trying to get answers. We're trying to do everything that's in this discharge petition, but you're trying to politicize it.

No, it's a yes or no question. It's not a trick question. We've already done what the discharge petition is asking. Do you think the resolution saying to keep doing what you were doing is better than a bill that could become law?

The bill has no force of law. It has no force of law. You're just trying to do a political stunt.

Look, ask the question, Mr. Mcdonald.

Well, I was asking a question. He interrupted me. Okay. It's a simple yes or no question.

We're already doing it.

Well, that's not a yes or no. But do you think the resolution saying to keep doing what you were doing is better than a bill that can become law, which It would require the release of all the files.

It doesn't have the force of the law. It's just a political stunt. It's just a political stunt.

This is a resolution. Massey Conna bill would become law. If all the Republicans want everything released, then you could vote for it. Then if he decides to veto it, you could override the veto.

As Roe-Conna says, Massey is a conservative. I'm a progressive. This is about standing with survivors and protecting kids. The people playing politics are the ones not signing our petition to force the release of the Epstein files. Democratic Congress member Jim McGovern says, I asked a simple yes or no question. Do you support the bipartisan Massey Kana bill to demand the release of the Epstein files. James Comer couldn't answer. I wonder why. Because Comer has been ordered by the Trump regime to be part of this cover-up. And the way this cover-up is going down as well is that about what, a week and a half or two weeks ago, the DOJ produced 33,000 documents that they claim are the Epstein files. They're not. The same way back in February, they gave those right-wing influencers a binder that was like, Epstein files. And I was like, That's not the Epstein files. That's a binder with Epstein's phone call list on it. And that's been released many, many years ago. What they did two weeks ago, the DOJ, is they released 33,000 documents that had already been our pages that had already been produced before. Also, 1% of what they produced was actually new stuff.

And that's not the Epstein files of what we know to be out there. The stuff that likely also has Trump's name and all the powerful, rich people who were potentially part of this broader conspiracy taking place. James Comer's asked about Ghislaine Maxwell and should we do oversight regarding why was the Trump DOJ interviewing Ghislaine Maxwell like that, and they moved her to a minimum security facility, and they gave her immunity. And James Comer is like, Well, I think you all are just jealous that Maxwell exonerated Donald Trump. Maxwell exonerated Donald Trump. Do you see what they're doing here? This was the plan that they hatched over the summer. Call Congress into recess. Get Ghislaine to meet with Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney, the number two at the DOJ, Todd Blanch, who is Trump's former criminal defense attorney. Give her immunity, get her to say the right things. Release 33,000 old files, but it's a big number, 33,000. So then tell the people, Look, we released the Epstein files, and Ghislaine vindicated Trump. Wow, we did our job. No, that's just part of your plan to cover it up, and we're staying laser-focused on what's really happening here.

Watch Komer respond to this question and say, You all are just mad that Ghislaine Maxwell exonerated Donald Trump. Play this clip.

Question was whether you would hold a hearing as-We'll have a hearing. Was transferred. Why she was transferred after that?

We'll have a hearing If someone wants to ask that question, they can ask it. You can ask any question. We'll have a hearing.

But it wasn't a hearing on what the question was.

You want to have a whole hearing, a whole entire hearing, not about the victims, not about a government cover up, not about human trafficking, but about who you all were begging to be deposed, and I did this, Fina. Now you're mad because she exonerated Trump. We brought in Bill Barr, who is no... I don't think it's any secret that he and Trump aren't best of friends.

I'm going to reclaim my time.

That's fine. Reclaim the time.

The question wasn't about, shouldn't we do all these things? But this is something very specific that indeed, as I understand, the victims raised today, they're outraged that this has happened. It is indeed a retraumatization when somebody who has done such couple of things is then treated favorably under these conditions. I think that's where it's at.

By the way, she didn't exonerate Donald Trump. Let's be very clear. She said she didn't see things with Epstein. She said she didn't things with Donald Trump. She didn't even know how she met Donald Trump. She's like, I didn't really even have a good relationship. I didn't really know him that much. I've always seen him as a gentleman. That's what I saw him. I'm a little Mary Poppins. It's like a Mary Poppins routine. It was very weird and odd. Then she also said, Oh, Epstein didn't really like the young women, or she called them women. It's girls. Let's be clear what it is. It's like, Yeah, he liked the young women because he was interested in their taste of music. He really wanted to know what the kids were listening to. That's all. Then she went on to say, Do you think that all of these powerful, dignified men would be hanging out with Epstein if he was creepy? He wasn't that creepy. Let's be clear what the hell Ghislaine was saying and what we've been exposing here at the Midas Touch Network. Then you have Democratic Congresswoman Fernandez, and she does a great job cross-examining Comer right here.

She says, Okay, Comer, under the way you're proposing proposing to do things, you become the authority of redactions and what gets produced publicly. If you really want to do this in a bipartisan way, why don't you agree in writing that it's you and Democratic Congress member Garcia, the ranking member, you both do it together so we can have transparency. And watch Comer squirm under cross-exam. Here, play this clip.

Now, Chairman Comer, this resolution would give you, and only you, The power to decide what information in these documents is redacted or withheld. Is that correct?

Well, we're trying to do this in a bipartisan manner.

Our staffs are communicating. I hope Mr. Garcia would agree. I think our staff, he's new to the job, and I think our staffs are working together really well, and hopefully we'll continue to work well. Like I said, I want this to be bipartisan.

Chairman Comer, I appreciate the fact that you said you want to work on a bipartisan basis on this, but the resolution does not require you to consult with the ranking member. The only thing that- If you If you want to be bipartisan, would you be willing to accept an amendment?

I'm making a pledge to work with Mr. Garcia.

A pledge is a wonderful thing, but an amendment that actually puts it into writing would be great. Would you be willing to accept that amendment?

I think the resolution is good, and hopefully we'll vote it out in a bipartisan manner.

Okay, so you're not willing to actually put it in writing that the ranking member will be consulted before you approve that.

I guarantee that I'll consult with them a heck of a lot more than Elijah Cummins and Carlin Maloney consulted with me when they were chairman of the committee.

I'm not asking about past. I'm asking about what's this. This is the problem. The reason why we're concerned about this is, Chairman Comer, I've read accounts of you describing yourself as a Trump man.

I support the President.

You support the President. This is why it would be important to have in writing the bipartisan nature, because we want there to be bipartisan.

So that it is not a- I wanted to, but you all are making a good case up here. But I'm hopeful that Mr. Garcia is going to see past the behavior of the Democratic to the Rules Committee. Chairman Komar was speaking.

Madam Chair, Chairman Komar was speaking. I think that it is important that we have people looking at these docs that are not a Trump man so that we can make sure that everything gets responded to you, because right now we haven't seen it. That's why we want to make it the law of the land. We want to make sure that all Republicans vote on the massive carna resolution so that they can say, We want to make sure it becomes available.

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More from Democratic Congress member McGovern here. Mcgovern makes it clear, Okay, so you're investigating the mismanagement that led to Epstein's death? Who was in office during that time period? Here, play this clip.

Mr. Cormier, this resolution that is before us right now says that you're investigating mismanagement that led to Mr. Epstein's death. Who was the President of the United States when Mr. Epstein died in custody?

I would assume it would have been Trump. Yeah.

I got to give a hat tip to Republican Congress member Thomas Massey. He's been steadfast. He's been attacked every way by Trump and MAGA at this point. And Manu Raju from CNN asks Massey, So Donald Trump's calling this all a hoax? That Epstein's a hoax, the files are a hoax. What's your response, Massey? He gives a brilliant response. Play this clip. The person's called it a hoax.

He's called it a hoax. I hope he doesn't say that after tomorrow when 10 of the survivors to testify in public. That would be very disrespectful.

Next, Monuraju asks MAGA Republican Congress member Lauren Bobert, who, by the way, signed on to the bipartisan discharge petition with Massey and with Kana. Here, she's asked by Monuraju. She says, Donald Trump is calling this a hoax. What do you have to say about it? Watch her response. Let's play this clip. American people have been demanding answers.

I've been demanding answers, and I would like to see what's actually there.

The President has called this a hoax. Maybe it is. We'll see.

But I think that we should have transparency.

More from Thomas Massey right here. Here, play this clip where he says, Look, the documents that the DOJ turned over, it's like 1% of what they possess, and they've turned over 97% of what's already been released. What the hell are they doing? Watch Massey Cooke here play this clip.

It's like only 1% of what they possess, and 97% of it's already been released. I'm afraid, is this going to be like Pam Bondi's binders? People are going to dig into it and say there's nothing new here. They haven't given us anything. They've given us the sleeves off their vest.

Here was an interesting part where you had MAGA Republican Congresswoman Nancy May say she's not worried about crossing Donald Trump on Epstein because she goes, Donald Trump is the one who banned from Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant. He talked to the feds to get this guy turned over. So Donald Trump is a hero in all of this. It's interesting for her to say that Trump was an informant. That's new. But by the way, that's what Michael Wolf, Donald Trump's former biographer and Epstein's potential biographer, actually was saying that Epstein believed that after Epstein and Trump were involved potential litigation. And Trump screwed over Epstein on a real estate deal where Trump sold a property in Southern Florida for twice the purchase price. He scooped the property out of... When Epstein said he was going to buy it, and Epstein was pissed, and Epstein was wondering, How did you get this Russian oligarch to double the price of what you bought it for, Donald? Epstein actually thought that because he and Donald were involved in, let's just say, a a lot of things together. I want to say that things that Donald may have said.

Donald's not the hero in this story. Donald was aware of what Epstein was doing for reasons, and that Epstein was like, Maybe Donald was an anonymous source that told on me to avoid the litigation that may have been coming Donald Trump. It was actually one of the things that Epstein thought like, Whoa, because Trump was there with Epstein and saw a lot of things as well. Let me show you this as well. But Trump was not the good guy. He's very much the bad guy in that story. Anna Paulina Luna right here. Here's what she's got to say. Play this clip. Is there more information beyond these 33,000 pages that needs to come out? There's going to be names. The attorneys kept emphasizing, you need to follow up on the names.

These girls are not just making this up.

These are some of the wealthiest people probably in the world. We'll start from there. More from Thomas Massey. Let's play it.

Look, if my legislation were redundant, why Who would the White House be trying to stop it? It's not redundant. There are things that the White House doesn't want out there that my legislation would cause to be released. Even the White House doesn't believe that the Oversight Committee has released everything.

More from Thomas Massey here. Let's play it.

Jobs, the economy, those are always the big issues. But you really can't solve any of that if this place is corrupt.

What do you mean if this place is corrupt?

Well, if they're going to cover up for rich and powerful and politically connected people, which is still what is happening right now here.

Are you worried about the blowback that you're facing from the White House from the President? He continues to attack you for taking steps like this.

Look, I got three billionaires right now running ads against me in Kentucky, and one of them is in Epstein's Black Book. I'm not worried about it. I've already poked the hornet's nest here. Once you're in for a penny, you're in for a pound, we're going to get these files released.

Here is Democratic Congress member Garcia talking about how the documents that were turned over by the DOJ were all these old documents. Play this clip. Most of the documents that were sent to our committee, those initial documents, were given to right wing influencers back in February. The files and the full report, according to the attorney general, were sitting on her desk ready to be released. We know that the attorney general herself has shared with the President directly that he is also in the files. We don't understand why this cover up by the President continues to not release the full files. And so the discharge petition is an important additional step forward for the Congress, the full Congress, to be on record to release the full files. Here was Democratic Congress member Dan Goldman talking about the massive cover-up. Here, play this clip.

Mike Johnson shut down Congress a week because he didn't even want to deal with these Epstein files. But the fact of the matter is this is a cover-up. This is a massive cover-up. They're not just Stonewalling. They're trying to do it through charade steeds and sleight of hand, so to speak. But they are covering something up. Donald Trump was hot to trot, and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino were leading the charge to release the Epstein files. Now, all of a sudden, they don't want them released. They are trying to hide something. And by releasing these documents, most of which have been released before, others will not have any relevant information. My suspicion is that the Oversight Committee is colluding with the Department of Justice. If you look at a alternative resolution they're going to present this week, it does not call for the witness statements. It goes through many different sections, types of information that should be released, it does include the witness statements. If it doesn't include the witness statements, then it doesn't include the core of the Epstein files.

One more clip here from Congress member Goldman. Let's play it. Congress, do you think it seems like there's nothing really new in these so far?

There's nothing new. This is all a charade. This is all an effort by the DOJ at Trump's direction to collaborate with Chairman James Comer and the top Republicans in Congress to give the Republicans enough so that they have political cover to conceal the Epstein files and whatever it is in there that Donald Trump is so desperate to hide after he was so desperate for it to be released.

On a slightly different topic, here are Republicans on the Rules Committee voting down an amendment that would require the speaker to hang a plaque honoring Capitol police officers who protected members of Congress on January sixth, which is already required by law. There's a law saying you have to post this, but they're not doing it. Why? Because Donald Trump is a vile piece of trash. Play this clip.

Is there any further discussion on the amendment? Hearing none, the question's on the amendment. All those in favor signify by saying Aye.

Aye.

Those opposed say no. No. In the opinion of the chair, the nos has.

I ask for a roll call of the amendment of chair.

The clerk will call the roll. Mrs. Fishback. No. Mr Fishback. No. Mr. Norman. No. Mr. Norman. No. Mr. Roy. No. Mr. Roy? No. Mrs. Houchin. No. Mrs. Houchin. No. Mr. Langworthy. No. Mr. Langworthy. No. Mr. Scott. No. Mr. Scott. No. Mr. Griffith. No. Mr. Griffith. No. Mr. Jack. No. Mr. Mcgovern? Aye. Mr. Mcgovern. Aye. Mr. I am Ms. Gallen. Ms. Gallen. I am Mr. Naguess? Aye. Mr. Nguz. I am Ms. Ledger Fernandez. Ms. Ledger-fernandez? Aye. Madam Chair. No. Madam Chair, no. 4. 4 total. Four yays, nine nays. No, as have it, the amendment not agreed to.

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