Transcript of #2249 - Yannis Pappas & Chris Distefano

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Boise, you're bombing.

Are we up? This is Kristoff DeStefano's very first time ever

Okay.

Lightning and smoking a cigar. How old

are you? 40.

How have you managed to get this far with no cigars?

I don't know how to do any, like, really guy shit like that. Like, I don't know how to play pool, cigars. I don't really know how to do that, but I do know every state capital.

Okay.

Yeah. Like Is this the right way? Yeah. Yeah.

He's gonna vomit. I wanna see him vomit.

I don't think he's gonna vomit. Don't inhale it all you gotta get the fire.

1st, you

gotta yeah.

Lower lower your hand. Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing this on purpose?

I swear on my kids, I've never done this.

No. No. I mean, the way you're being retarded. Like, get the fire on the There

we go. Right over.

Yeah. Get it on there. Get it on there. Get it in there. There you go.

Yeah. I can. Yeah.

Alright. You're good. Just start pulling.

That suck up.

No. You're not good. How did you fuck that up?

What am I say what am I supposed to do?

Smoke it? You gotta inhale while you're lighting it.

Yeah. What you wanna do what you wanna do is inhale all the smoke in.

No. No. No. No. No.

You just kinda keep take a deep fun

with them.

Breathe in while you're doing

that. I felt into the thing. Jesus

Christ.

I don't know. How do

you get to be 40 and never have a cigar?

Well, now

he's a man. Now you're a man. So what do I do now? You you puff on it?

It's not even lit. How did you fuck that up?

I just tried to bite

it for 5 minutes.

You gotta puff

on it?

Do this, and you don't you you just you don't inhale. You just take it into your mouth.

Yeah. You enjoy the taste of it.

There you go. Take some little puffs.

Yeah. This

is not gonna work out well. Couple puffs.

Yeah. Take a puffs. He's gonna light the whole thing.

Yeah. You're good.

Puff. Puff. Keep puffing. Keep it lit. You wanna keep it lit?

There we go. Giannis knows. Giannis, when was the first time you smoked a cigar? I'm sorry.

When I was 6 years old.

Like a regular person. Yeah.

Like a regular person with my uncle. Man.

You know what it is? Get to be 40

and no cigars?

I think because my dad never really smoked or anything like that. It's it's in the back

Don't cry. Don't start crying.

No. It's in the back of my throat. My dad, never really smoked, and I never really did any, like, man kind of stuff like this. Mhmm. And I was with my mom mostly, and she was more, you know

the way you said that. History.

I know. Well, it's just I got cigar at the back of my throat, but I don't know what to do. I also I'm just thinking about how my clothes are gonna smell like cigar smoke. Yeah.

I know. It really does

smell that. Gonna mess with your head? Yeah.

And it messes my head because I'm like, I don't wanna get cigar smoke on my clothes.

Do you use cologne? Yes.

Shout out Yves Saint Laurent.

Wow. Body odor.

Do you not use cologne?

No. Never? No. Never. What did you when I was, like, 18?

You just go with your natural musk.

Well, I wear deodorant.

Right. I wear doctor Squatch. Shout out doctor Squatch.

Shout out doctor Squatch. Natural.

It's not

it doesn't have aluminum in it. Yeah. But I wonder if it works as good.

Well, there's more

effective. Something to the aluminum. Why would you put it

in there

if it wasn't effective?

No. I tried deodorant without the aluminum in it.

Doctor Squat Doesn't work. You could take a sniff of these bits.

Can I take a peek? Not a smell?

Yeah. Come come see a sniff.

Take a smell. Yeah. You want me to go on the other side?

Come take a sniff.

They smell good.

That's what

they're gonna do.

Get in there.

Yeah. They smell good.

Not bad. Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's it. Is legit. I forget which flavor it is.

It's like fucking whiskey, bourbon, musk, some shit.

There's pheromones in natural scent. Smells too.

Yeah. That's a lie.

You know what they're saying?

There's pheromones, but natural people smell disgusting. People that don't wear any deodorant, they always smell funky. Stinky. They they have, like, you know, your pits are think about how it works. Right?

It's just getting squashed all the time. Your pits are just constantly getting squashed, and there's hair in there Yeah. Unless you're a weirdo. Yeah. So there's hair, and the hair is collecting all the sweat, and it's just getting funky.

That's what made eating pussy so hard before, like, the 2000.

For porn.

Before porn. But porn used to be muffed out.

Right. Yeah. But somewhere along the line, it wasn't. And then society followed.

Yes. And it changed eating pussy. I mean, it's so much more enjoyable without any fumes. Yeah. Because the fumes get caught in the hair.

Fumade.

Yeah. Yeah. Stuff goes on down there.

Yeah. Well,

nope. Plus it's 6 inches from the asshole. Yeah.

Not even. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Napoleon's letters to Josephine, he wanted her to have a full bush, and he wanted her not to bathe for a week.

When he was coming home for more, he said, I need it I need it fucking mungy. So some guys like that. Mungy.

I mean, that should be worth He was involved in trench warfare. Right. That guy hit a different tolerance for

shit. Yeah. You

know, you just imagine the kind of warfare that Napoleon's crew were. I mean, they had muskets.

And they were also probably much more tolerant of bad smells because history smelled. Can you imagine with the people bathed once a week and Yeah. Even athletes' foot. Every bride probably had athletes' foot. Stinky.

Yeah. Everyone. Everyone.

They didn't they didn't have bidets yet. No. So your asshole was just like They

didn't have running water, bro.

They have nothing.

They had buckets.

Yeah. The only people who were cleans the only people who were clean in antiquity, Muslim people. They were the they were the clean ones. When you read about the crusades, they said the Muslims were able to smell the Christian army coming from miles away because of how filthy they were where Muslims were all about science and cleansiness and, you know, doctor Schwartz before it was big.

Well, before the the the Mongols sacked Iraq, like, they were like, that was the pinnacle of civilization. They turned the river was it the river Tigris?

Mhmm.

They turned it red with blood. Like, that's how many people they killed. They they killed the entire town of Baghdad. Like, they killed everybody there, and those people were at the pinnacle of science.

Yeah.

And then look, you go all the way to the 19 nineties and you got fucking Saddam Hussein and this psychopathic kids running shit and killing people and Right. That was what was left over.

Yeah. Yeah. Same gene line.

It's really nuts when you think

about into the genes like the killer kind of psychopathic? Yeah.

Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

Right.

I think good things and bad things get in your genes. I think that's been substantiated by science. They said, you know, that even racism can can be passed on from parent to child.

That makes sense.

I believe in traumatic memories. Mhmm. I believe it. My yeah. But I I feel like only now as I'm getting older, am I like, oh, I have some of my mom's memories in my head, I feel like.

Think about it. Like, think about let's look let's think of simpler animals, like animals, like dogs, like Carl. Why how the fuck does a dog know to pee on a tree? How does a dog know to go to where pee is and pee on it? How do they know any of those things?

They're born with it. Right. Programmed in.

There's some memory. How do they know when they see another dog or an animal to bark? Right. Why are they scared of it? Like, what why are people scared of snakes?

Why are people scared of spiders?

Puerto Ricans are not scared of snakes. Well, they in

Puerto Rico.

No. I'm saying they take them as household pets. Yes. My friend Sergio's got 8 of them.

8 snakes. Yeah.

Sergio might be a problem.

Yeah. Sergio is a problem.

Sergio

is a problem. Somebody. Yeah.

Pets that are snakes.

Sergio used to beat up drug dealers when he was 15 with his fist. Like, that was he would get the drug other drug dealers would pay this 15 year old kid to go beat up other drug dealers with his fist on the lower east side and get money.

But he's a great guy and a spiritual guy, and he's the only guy I know that would beat up a drug dealer and then journal about it later because he didn't

speak. This guy.

He's our friend. Yeah. He's our friend. How does he come? Sergio Chacon.

He's a comic? Yeah. He's a comic and a and a boxing instructor. Yeah.

Oh, no kidding.

Yeah. He's a boxing

instructor. Us both. We're fucking ready.

Yeah. We're ready to go.

Thinner, dude. You really do. You look healthy.

Thank you.

He does. He looks good. Boxing?

I've been boxing.

Yeah. Tell him to see some moves.

You see it, bro? No. I'll show you form.

I got video of it.

I'll show you form, dude. Yeah.

He's got a nice he's got a He made a video today. I got a video today. He's got a nice right hand. He's a he's not you you say you're slow, but you're not slow. But you got a nice nice right hand.

Yeah. I have he tells me I got I got a little power in both hands. Right. So I don't know.

You're a

little too confident for my liking.

I know. I know. And that's how it goes. And then you just get fucking stretched out.

Stretched out. You'll get laid out, Kud.

Yeah. You get stretched out.

You have a a smaller head than normal physically. So it's harder to catch.

It's harder target.

Yeah. You're fucking target.

You got it looks like you got a helmet on your head. Listen. The reality is both of you are gonna get hit a lot. 100%. And it's way better to have a big head.

Is it? 1? 100%. Guys with bigger heads traditionally, for a fact, take a better shot.

Mhmm.

And those are the guys like Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt, 1 of the greatest kickboxers of all time. Yeah. K 1 grand prix champion, fought in UFC, fought in pride, is a legend. Head the size of this table.

Yeah. Body. Brock Les bod.

Head the size of this table. Yeah. He had a he he was just Samoan.

Yeah. Right.

Just a giant thick dude. He was like 510, 250. Yeah. Right. You know?

But but 1 of the greatest chins of all time in all of combat sports.

Can you see just from looking at our faces how easy it would be to

Yes.

My chin's going out. I'm going out quick.

Right?

You don't have good structure.

Yeah.

I got a lady's face

is what you're saying.

No. You have a man's face, but there's certain faces that are easier to hurt.

Yeah.

Right. And he's got a good jaw.

But, you know, there's there's arguments against that. Like, there's some guys have small jaws and somehow or another, they take great punches. Right. Max Holloway doesn't have, like, a big square jaw. It takes a tremendous punch.

Yeah. Right. I'm scared to sleep with the lights off, so I don't I don't I think if I got hit

You look like you take a good shot, though. I I Like, the structure's good.

Yeah. When I have what my defense is, not against guys like you if if you don't know me. What my defense is, I look like I can take a pun.

Like, you could be a complete psychopath.

And I don't know any If

I could teach you how to, like, really Right. Find your inner psycho,

you'd scare the fuck out of me. You gotta teach me how to light a cigar. I don't even know how to do that.

There's something dead behind your eyes that's very troubling if you were angry.

If I was angry. Yeah. But the thing

I see that.

The thing is for me, Joe, and I'm just completely honest with you. When I get really angry, like, you'll punch a wall or you'll do man shit, I cry. I really there's been many times where I've gotten so mad that I just start to tear up and cry. I've cried in front of Giannis before.

Yeah. When you get angry?

When I get angry, I just start to cry. So there's some wires crossed somewhere in me, but we've kind of accepted. That's why I think our friendship has blossomed to the way it is because we both understand that we just have a little bit more estrogen than most guys, and that's okay.

We got nicked for sure.

I mean, we got nicked by the gate.

Fully clipped. I think we got nicked.

Joe didn't get it at all. Joe got not even close to being nicked, and which is rare for a comic because if you it's very usually hard to be funny and not a little bit of a feminine guy. You're a very manly guy that can be funny. Yeah. That's a rarity, babe.

Yeah. Well, most guys that if you, like, hang around boxing gyms or if you hang around a lot of cops or if you hang around soldiers, they're funny, man. They're funny dudes because it's gallows humor because they're dealing like, 1 of my funniest friends was a special forces guy.

Yeah.

He's fucking hilarious.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's always cracking, like, jokes you could never repeat, you know, saying things you can never repeat, and it's just so funny. It's like he's funny. It's just funny in, you know, kind of a crazy way.

Yeah. Right. We would we always say that, like, if we were, like, back in history, like, 200 years ago, whatever, we'd be the guys in the war. We'd either be hitting up drums, or we would just be keeping the troops loose, laughing laughing with the troops because we're not the kind of guy. We think we have value as men to other warrior men like yourself, but we're not gonna do the fighting.

But we will do the cooking, the cleaning, and the laughing.

And I will offer my nuts up to be a eunuch to watch the harem.

It's also the experiences that you've had in your life that make you who you are right now. It's not as simple as, like, like, when I was a kid, I was terrified of everybody. That's why I learned martial arts. I was getting picked on.

Right.

I was I hated it. So I was like, alright. I gotta figure out well, there's only 1 way. Mhmm. The the only 1 way is to become formidable.

Right. To become the person that you're scared of.

Right.

So I did that. Yeah. But it wasn't because, like, I was this, like, kid that was tough, like, all the time. Like, when I was young, I was, like, I understood how to, like, just be a fucking man. Like, no.

I mean, I had to learn all that.

Right. From from great weakness comes great strength.

Yeah. Well, you recognize what it is. Right? There it's thought patterns. You're you allow your brain to go down these very detrimental thought patterns.

And you you you under you have to, like, separate you, consciousness, from these patterns that you allow your your attention to go down. That's what it is. Yeah. And if you can shut those off, you'll you'll have a happier life. You have to you have to understand where they're going.

And when they go in a negative detrimental anxiety spiral. Now I'm not saying this will work for everybody because I do believe that some I some anxiety is chemical. I believe that some people have a bad balance, because I've known people like that. It's a real thing and I can't I can never say that the way I think is the way everybody thinks. There's no way.

But I know for me that with me, I know because of extreme experiences, I know how to shut those things off. So from fighting, from hunting, from doing stand up, from doing a lot of live things where you're in front of, like, thousands of people, I know how to shut that part of your the brain off that goes down those roads. I know what it is. You know? I've experienced it.

I've had I never had a panic attack, but I've had anxiety, you know, I freaked out before. And then I was like, why did I react like that? And then you look at it in retrospect, you go, okay. I started spiraling and then what if this happens? And then what if that happens?

What if that happens? Okay. Don't do that.

Yeah.

And then get to that spot and have enough mental clarity and enough sovereignty, control over the mind to not allow it to go down there.

It's tough when you have a comedian's brain because that's what we do. We spend a lot of time in our heads analyzing things analyzing things, and sometimes it can turn on you. Yeah. Yeah.

If it starts with what if, it's anxiety. Push it out of the brain, folks.

And anxiety is a liar. Liar.

I'm getting liars a liar, but that what if sometimes is good. Like, what if I do this? Yeah. What if I just relook at this? What if, like, not what if it's not bad?

What if what if if it's attached to what if it all falls apart? What if everyone hates me? Like, every now and then I get a text from a friend that's like, hey, man. Are we cool? Like, what are you talking about?

Like, what are you talking about? Of course, we're cool. Like, what what happened?

Yeah.

Oh, I just no. No. I haven't heard from you in a while.

I'm like, are you okay? Yeah. Like, what is like, cool. Let's talk on the phone. Yeah.

These are weird conversations, you know? Right. Some people just go down a road and they start thinking everybody hates them.

That's narcissism. Right? They just think everyone's obsessed with you.

There's a little bit of that. Right? Right. Unfortunately, even victims, like, people that are psychologically damaged, you know, and they're depressed. Like, that is a type of narcissism, unfortunately.

But you don't wanna, like, further victimize someone who's got a mental illness by saying, oh, you're a narcissist. But if you're just only worried about how other people think of you and only worried about how you fit into everything, yeah, that's there's a narcissism in that.

I know when I text you, I just go, hey. There's a 1 in 6 chance. The guy's a busy guy.

What it is.

I never take a pass.

Get a new number, and I've been saying this for a while. I have a couple numbers, but I gotta I have to renew I gotta just completely check out.

And I never call you first because I'm like, I don't know if I'm if we got that type of friendship.

You can totally call me.

I can call you?

Yes. We're friends. Alright. I heard you wanna see it, really. Yeah.

Then you can call me. Oh, I'm calling. Couple of times I've sent

you I come over for Christmas. Yeah. Now oh, wow. You're gonna be seeing a lot

of Giannis Bap is popping up. Let's go. Yeah. There's been a couple of times I've sent Joe voice notes.

Yeah.

And then you listen back, and I'm like, I'm not sending that. And then I and then I just don't reach out. What'd you say? What's up, Heidi Bubbles? What's up, baby gorgeous?

Joe sends me the most voice notes? Alex Jones. Because they disappear.

Oh, right. This is what they're planning. And then it fucking disappears. But you could keep them. Perfect.

Yeah. You can keep them.

But doesn't he know if you keep them?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't wanna know of that. Yeah. Yeah.

You don't I don't wanna know.

No. What I'll do, I'll record it with another phone.

That's smart. I'll, like, you know, film it. Smart, dude.

Yeah. That's what the problem is.

Yeah. That's perfect. I mean, it's almost like I've known

him for about 25 fucking years.

I mean, if you called me to do that, I'd be like, Alex Jones.

As soon as Trump gets in, they're gonna the the aliens will land. Yeah.

That's perfect.

Returning the frogs gay. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I saw a video of Alex Jones, and I'm late in the game. I've seen this, but how he predicted 911 in June of 2,001.

He did. I was crazy to watch that.

Tucker thinks he's a savant. The he's, he's a very misunderstood guy.

Right. He

really is. And it's really unfortunate, that Sandy Hook thing, because if it wasn't for that, he would be way more respected and people would appreciate him for what he is. He had a psychotic break, you know, and he had he had a a drinking problem at 1 time and maybe some other stuff, and he was losing his fucking mind because all day long, it's conspiracies that are real. Right. And so when you start looking for conspiracies in places that aren't real and then I think there's also another thing.

I think there are certain people now I don't know who they work for. I don't know if they're independent. I don't know if they do it just for fun. Some people create fake compelling conspiracies and then put them online.

Yeah. For sure.

They do it. For content.

Yeah. Well, they do it.

Use. They that's true too. But I think there's a more nefarious aspect to it too. Oh, yeah. The more the more conspiracies that you can make look really stupid, the more the real ones, seem preposterous because they're connected.

Right? Like, here's a great example. 911 was an inside job. That sounds fucking insane. Right?

That sounds completely insane that the government did that, But 51 former intelligence agents testified that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. That sounds crazy too. Right. But that's real. Right?

The if you get enough of the ones that don't make sense, like the Jews control the weather, you get enough of the flat earth ones, you get enough they're all it's all like it's like the term drugs. Right? The term drugs applies to nicotine. It applies to the coffee we're drinking. That's what a drug is, but it also applies to fucking meth.

Right? Conspiracy theories are lumped in altogether just like drugs. And the best way to do that is to put a bunch of bad ones out there, really bad ones, so that the ones that are plausible, you go, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Show me the Pfizer files? Mhmm. Why why are they hidden for 75 years? Yeah. What what do you wait.

How many wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait. How many people did you test this on? Did you ever test for transmission?

You never did. So when you were on TV and you're saying that, what was going on there? That's a real conspiracy.

Right.

These are real real people conspired to hide information and to shape a narrative that would be very, very profitable. Right.

But nobody's gonna believe the Jews created the weather and then also every like, you know, it's only a small group of people who are gonna go to Jews in control.

They're definitely cloud seeding. They in Dubai.

There's They will crawl in your shoes, though. Their shoes will crawl in your shoes.

For sure.

Yeah. So make sure you keep your shoes tight. Tighten your laces.

For sure, there's people that can discern between a good conspiracy and a bad conspiracy, but I don't think there's a lot of them. I think it's, like, 30% of the population.

Alright. Let me ask you about this 1 then.

America may be America.

Yeah. 30 percent

of the population.

Let me throw this 1 out. Are you ready for this 1? Do you think it's possible just hear me out. Do you think it's possible that what this existence actually is is some type of prison planet and we are negative emotions are being fed on by an ancient alien race that has kind of imprisoned us. And the reason why monks and people like that go into deep meditation is because a lot of this universe has spoken through vibrations, and they can get their vibrations to a certain height where they can vibrate and have so much positive energy that the prison planet rulers can't eat their can't eat them, and they're not stuck in this loop like we are.

Like, where did

you get this 1?

This is a this is real.

That's that 1. Eat their negative thoughts.

Eat their negative thoughts and negative emotions. Can you write me up, be honest? So what I'd I'd like to hear about that. This is

such a feminine thing. He's asked you to hold the door open for him.

Yeah.

Why don't why don't you, Yeah. Put the umbrella over his head, light a cigar.

Up, baby. You're getting you're getting lit up on nicotine.

Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah.

I feel light headed. Is that normal? Yeah. Yeah. That's where you're supposed to get normal.

That's Yeah.

You may get sick too, but but it'll be fine. That's why I get sick.

Cigars are so good for conversation. You're not gonna get sick. Cigars are so good for conversation because it gets you a little loose. Yeah. Which is it's nice.

It's a nice little buzz.

So you don't think the prison plan you don't think this is there's a possibility this is a prison plan or from an advanced human race, and they're eating our negative emotions and thoughts for fuel. Where'd you get that?

Where'd you get that from?

Alex Jones.

No. Not Alex Jones. Alex Jones is a much more detailed explanation. Any center dimensional child molesters. There's a device on the moon.

There's a device on the moon. That that's how they reflect. That's how they reflect. That's the energy goes to that.

That sounds like it's possible. L Ron Hubbard shit. Have you ever read any l Ron Hubbard?

I know the details. I know the it's a nice pyramid scheme to go up all the way.

Oh, yeah. But that's just the Dianetics Right. Or Scientology. The really fun stuff is his science fiction. I know that he wrote the most words ever What?

Of any human being

More than James Joyce?

He has the most published work of all time. Wow.

So he's like no 1 Thomas Kinkain Thomas Kinkain of writing?

Well, he never made a second draft. Homeboy stuff all sucked. It was all unbelievably bad science fiction. Got it. It was unbelievably bad, like, wonderful.

Like, so bad. It's just, like, what? Have you ever seen Battlefield Earth?

Yeah. That was the worst movie ever.

L Ron Hubbard is a record holding author who holds a Guinness World Records for publishing. Most published works by 1 author, most audiobooks published by 1 author, most translated author in the world, most translated author, same book, The Way to Happiness. Very interesting. He's a special IBM typewriter with extra keys for common words. What?

He was so bad.

He was

so bad at writing. He writing. He did not only did he not edit, but he he did the word ready.

Well, you think you might be over again. You keep going. You might be in line for podcast, for Guinness World Records, most podcast minutes ever recorded. That's possible.

That's very possible.

You could get that.

Maybe. I mean, what's the record now?

I I don't know what would happen. Who's doing 9 hours a week? Yeah.

Only you. I might already have it.

You might already have it. I might already have it.

But that's like I already have the Guinness World Record 1 that Adam Corolla holds. What's that 1? Adam Corolla has, like, the most downloaded podcast of all time. Like, bitch, that's mine.

You can have it, though.

Yeah.

You can keep it keep your name in the book.

Yeah. That's mine.

Well, because, yeah, you have to specifically go to Guinness World Records, and they have to do research and, like, give you a whole thing.

You have to prove it. You have to go to them to try to get it on the books, and I don't give a fuck. But if they were, like, really checking

It's you.

It has to be. Yeah. It's I've been it's this has been number 1 for 5 or 6 years. Yeah. There's no way.

Right. There's no way I'm cruel. Still got it. That's crazy. No way.

You're lying.

No. And you do what? Average 3 every episode, 3 hours. So it's 9 hours a week. Average.

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm using 4 usually 4 a week. So it's usually 12 and sometimes 5. Yeah.

This week is 4. Some weeks it's 5. And if it's a fight companion, like, some weeks it's 4 and a fight companion. The fight companion might be 5 hours long, you know.

Yeah. It's just passion, you think? Like, you never say, fuck. I gotta do a pod. It's always, like, can't wait to

do a pod. Never say fuck. I have to do

a pod. That's beautiful.

Especially guys like you. I'm like, we're gonna have fun. Yeah.

We'll have fun. What we told them? I come to our prison planet.

Do you

know how

do do you know how much we would be loving this if it never happened? Like, if you never got to be around friends and just shoot the shit and smoke a cigar and laugh and crack up and talk about nonsense? Like, if you couldn't do it, it would be something you would look forward to so much. If you're lonely

Mhmm. If you

didn't have good friends, you didn't have, like like comics are the best friends. They're the best friends to have because you could be open with them. They talk crazy. They say wild shit. You laugh together.

You feed off of each other. They're they're best friends. If you didn't have any comics for friends, there's a lot of fucking sad, sad people out there. Yeah. So if you're not sad

You say your comics aren't sad?

Oh, yeah. Some comics are. Some comics are sad.

Tears of a clown.

Yeah. That's a little exaggerated. I think a lot of them are sad because of the whole thing we're talking about before, like narcissism and anxiety. Like, comics are some awful narcissists. Mhmm.

But you you know when you really see that? When comics start attacking comics that are doing better than them. Yeah. But it's only comics that are doing better than them. So what's happening?

Comparison, the thief of joy. Yes.

Teddy Roosevelt?

Yeah. All criticism comes from a place of unmet needs. Right.

A

tragic result of unmet needs.

Right.

And so there's this feeling, like, what do you mean me me me? Fuck, be honest. Why is he fucking history hyenas? I don't give a fuck if they're back. Fuck off.

Yeah. We are back. Baby, I'm a baby. It's not about me. Everybody else sucks.

Yeah. That's what it

is. True.

But aren't isn't there a wonderful world that we live in? Isn't there chaos chaos and beauty? Isn't there so many things to talk about, and you're gonna talk about other comics? Shut the fuck up, bitch.

Yeah.

I agree.

Shut the fuck up, you whiny bitch. Yeah.

That's why it's good to have in my opinion, you know, we both have kids. We we get lost. You know? You know, we'll do our work, and then we'll do our stuff, have fun, and then we just play with our kids, play with, like, the real stuff that matters. You know, our our wives, our kids hanging out

with them. It definitely changes everything.

Some of our peers who don't have families and is just constantly I don't know how you're gonna get off that treadmill.

Yeah. That's not good. I would not be the same human being if I didn't have a family. I just would not. I wouldn't have the same empathy and compassion for people.

I wouldn't understand, like, the development of a child.

Right.

You know, I talked about this before, but I really genuinely changed the way I look at human beings after I became a parent. Mhmm. Because I used to look at adults like they were just, oh, this guy's asshole. He's 36. He's a fucking dickhead.

Now I go, oh, that's a baby. That's a baby that got terrible exposure to bad ideas and bad input and mean people around him and you got, you know

Yeah.

Thrust into this situation so now you see them. Like, when I see homeless people, I get so sad.

Yeah.

And I see, like, homeless people that are just, like, I'm like, that's someone's baby.

Yeah.

They held that baby. And now here's this person just leaning on the corner, you know, what is that thing they're doing? Like, it's a lot of it in Philadelphia where they're like Well, like, totally, like, lean back.

Oh, is this a cross crank or something?

Yeah. That's

What do they call it?

It's the heroin lean.

It's not Huntington feeling. I don't

even know if it's heroin. It's like I think it's some new stuff. It's a new shit. This guy was, like, doing a yoga thing. I'm like, if you could do that, like, it's essentially he's doing, like, a very difficult core maneuver.

Yeah.

Joe's like, can I do that with a kettlebell?

I was wondering. I was looking at this guy. I'm like, I don't think that's good for your back, but, like, if he can hold it there, that's gotta be something, like, very good structure. Structure.

Yeah. Do you

do that? It's a baby thing even with, like, Genghis Khan and Hitler. You're like, even when they're murdering, like, he's just a baby.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I mean, I don't forgive them.

Yeah. I mean, it's not like what stopped me from killing them, but it what it does do is it puts me in this place of instead of, like, thinking of everything as being static, that everything is just a constant progression towards what you are now.

Yeah. Even though listen, dude. I love America. I bleed red, white, and blue. I I I stayed draped in the American flag.

I love our country. I agree with you. I do understand terrorism terrorists, like old school terrorists when, like, you know, if America's, like, bombed their country for whatever reason and killed their babies, they're like, well, now I'm gonna fucking go lethal, and I'm gonna start killing everybody in that country when I can. I just get it where I didn't get it before I had kids. But I'm like, if somebody did that to me and my children and took them away, I would just go crazy.

I'd learn how to light a cigar, and I'd start fucking killing people because I have nothing left to live for, I feel. So I get it now.

Of course. I mean, it's not it's not a coincidence that some of the scariest people live in war torn parts of the world. Sure. Like, the fighters that come to the UFC, the scariest motherfuckers are, like, the guys from Chechnya, like, you know, guys from Dagestan. Like, those guys are terrifying.

Why? Well, look at the history of that part of the world. Yeah.

You know

what I mean? You have to be a hard person to fucking survive.

Right.

Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Am I supposed to just keep holding the cigar? You guys put it down. No.

You put it down every now and then?

So I just put it down, and now we'll do that. Gonna set it up. Yeah.

I gotta set the paper up.

Sorry about that. Yeah. So alright.

Those are Dice's cigarettes in there, so don't take the cigarettes out. Take the fucking aspirin.

Oh, sorry. I don't know what to do. This is fun, though.

Why do you wanna keep Dice's cigarettes in there?

Because they're Dice's. No. Yeah. He he doesn't smoke them. He just takes them out, and he holds on to them, and he puts

them in

the ashtray, and he pulls another 1 out, and he holds on to it. Yeah. He went smoking again for a while. He started smoking again, but they stopped again. You know?

Yeah. Gotta be careful my health.

Yeah. Oh. 0. You wanna talk about a great father and some, but that that's Dice. Dice Yes.

Dice is all about his kids.

Very dedicated. You know, his kids play the band. They play, like, at his shows. You know, he said his son's his son is fucking amazing on the drums. Yeah.

Yeah. He's a great guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. Another misunderstood guy.

Legitimate good dude. And also

a legitimate artist. Like, his performance art, the weird stuff that he does in New York City for no money, for no people.

Do you want the picture? Yeah.

Why you looking for a picture? For a picture? People are even watching those clips. If we haven't brought them up, like, I don't know how many views they would even have. He's not promoting it.

He's not trying to go on podcast.

It's amazing.

He doesn't even tell you about them. You have to find them.

Find them.

Yep. And if they're on a if you're on a podcast,

he's like, you gotta see this thing I'm doing. Right? But then they wanna bitch. He doesn't know any of that. He doesn't know any of that.

Oh, the big shot.

He's a real artist, man.

No. He's the best.

Look. Wait.

Give me some.

Give me some.

Do do you okay. Have you been keeping up with the, the drone flying saucer thing? No.

No?

Hi. Have you been seeing, like, the spaceships on

did you

see any of the flying saucers that they've been talking about? No.

You you would never imagine that that

guy sold out Madison Square Garden.

Just the game. Multiple, multiple times. Just the same. Coliseum. Yeah.

Mhmm.

I mean, he was a he was a fucking man. And At

1 point, he was, like, the only comedian people knew about.

Yep. He was certainly 1 of the only big casuals. Yeah.

What is also great about Dice is, you know, obviously, Giannis and I both comics in New York, so we see him a lot. He's 1 of the most giving guys to the younger guys Oh, yeah. When he comes into the clubs. He'll tell you about he won't tell you about his feats at Madison Square Garden and all that to tell you, like, how good he is. He'll say, here's where I was.

Here's where I am now. So this comedy game is like a roller coaster, and I'm living proof, and just stay in the game. That's he always tells me, just stay in the game because you just don't know. Do not quit.

No. He's great.

He's great.

How old is Dice now? Sixties?

He definitely gets Sixties. Yeah. Only sixties. He he gave me advice to go on the road when I was just hanging out at the store when I was in my twenties. I met Dice.

I I couldn't believe I was meeting him. You know what I mean? It was, like, 1 of those things, like, I can't believe that's really him.

Yeah.

You know, you see a guy, like, when I was 19 years old, me and his girl was dating. We were listening to his cassette in my car in front of my house. I'll never forget. We're crying in front of my house. So for me, that was Dice.

Dice was this guy where, like, I'd seen him on HBO. Like, this is crazy. He's on HBO. Like, this is so funny. To now, like, getting advice from him at the store is like you should do the road.

And I was like really? He goes, yeah, you don't wanna rely on these jerk offs for all your fucking money. Yeah. He's like, you know, you don't need these people to, you know, and it's the advice I give everybody now. Like you don't wanna be connected where you're completely dependent on 1 source of income.

That's terrible. It's a bad place to be.

He'll text me sometimes and be like, oh, Chris, can you talk? And then I'll and and then if I don't answer, he'll say, call me back when your kids are sleeping. And then when you call him because he's like, I never wanna take attention away from you from your children. So he goes, I wanna talk to you when either your kids are in school or they're asleep. Other than that, he goes, you should just be focusing on your kids and not talking to anybody.

So I was like, oh, wow. Dice is, like, really about his kids. It's like an awesome thing. You know? And then he'll go, goosh, and then he'll start telling you about, I fucking gooed on her last night.

You gotta respect your family. I love it. You know?

I've noticed now when you like, my conversations with people have become like I did when I was in high school. I gotta wait till everyone's asleep, and then I gotta Yeah. It's late at night, 1 in the morning, and the only people I can talk to is comics because they're up and

Yeah.

You know, it's weird.

You know, kids don't even talk to each other. They just Snapchat. Yeah. Most of them Snapchat. Now I'm learning this from my kids, like like, did you guys don't text at all?

She goes, I only text my family. Yeah. So, like, if she gets an iMessage, it's only from 1 of us. Right. That's it.

The everything else is they're snapping each other back and forth. Yeah. And they just, like, take a picture of this. Yeah. And then they they're doing it all day long and saying something.

Here's where my life is, r m.

I don't also, they don't want

they don't want a bigger screen either. My kids don't wanna go to the movies. They think the screen's too big. It freaks them out. They wanna want the biggest screen that they wanna watch is the screen that we have at home or their phone.

I took them to see the to a movie. They were, like, freaked out. It's too big, the screen.

That's weird. Interesting. Might have a little u in them. Yeah.

Maybe that's That might be I know.

I know. That ain't normal.

I know.

Love screens.

Do you think it's bad?

My daughters are the man I wish I could be.

It's gotta be bad for them. I think it's bad.

Well, it's different.

With screens? Bad. It's just the

Snapchat, the social media.

It's not good.

It's just a different way of interacting. I think everybody's, like, blowing it out of proportion. First of all, I think it's not good. Don't don't get me wrong, but I think it's inevitable. It just it is the the it's like if if it's raining, you're gonna get wet.

Shut the fuck up. Right. This is the world we're living in. It's a weird world, and it's better to develop the ability to cope and handle it at a young age. It's definitely not good.

You know? What about college?

Do you think, like, your kids do you want them I I know we want them to go to college, but do you care if they go to Harvard or Yale anymore? Do you think that's at more meaningless now than it was 30 years ago?

I want my kids to do what they wanna do. I don't want to be that dad that's like, I want you to go to Yale. I I just I don't think that's good. I don't think that ever works. I think at best, you give advice.

And at at best, you always connect advice to mistakes. Like, I'll tell you what I did wrong.

This is

what I did wrong. That's like when I was a kid, I always fucked this up. I was I I always whenever I would, like, correct them about something, I was like, I did the same thing. I did the exact same thing. Everybody does this, you know.

And this is why, and this is what you gotta know. And, you know, I always I feel bad about stuff I did when I was 5.

You know?

It's tough when you have daughters. I mean, I can't mind me, I can't be like, just make sure you wear a condom. I mean, that's you know? I I don't know what girls do to mess up.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, but

brutal to be a girl. Like, you either have to take get on birth control, which completely fucks with your hormones. Yeah. Completely fucks with your hormones.

Yeah.

Completely fucks your body, also can cause blood clots. Like, girls die from that.

I I

had a a dude that I knew from martial arts and his daughter died. She was 17 years old. She was smoking cigarettes and you're not supposed to smoke cigarettes when you're on birth control.

It's horrible.

Yeah. And nobody even knows that. Like, nobody knows that. Like, if they tell you it goes in 1 ear, out the other because everybody's on birth control, and you don't think about it.

Every girl lives. Just fucking snap. Like, that guy in just locked his daughter in the basement for 28 years. He was just like, well, now you're just never coming out. You ever see that story, that guy?

No. That guy locked his daughter in the aerial Castro? No. No. No.

This is I think it was in Germany or Austria. 1 of those countries, guy locked his daughter. He he said he had built a room downstairs, a studio for her to, like, drums or something like that, whatever she was into. And then he he went and had to go in, like, the the most, inner room of this thing that he built, and he locked her in there. She did not see light again for 28 years.

How is she still alive?

She's alive, and she's telling her story now. I think he might have raped her too. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

Oh, god.

He was at times and had 7 kids with her.

Oh, that's why that guy yeah.

Yeah. Oh my

god. Germans

are weird.

How about that German guy that ate that other guy's penis? He he they he answered an ad.

Well, the guy asked him

to eat his penis. It is keto.

And they ate it together. Right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. But Yeah. Hey. German, they ate he ate his own dick. He ate his own penis with his Yeah.

With a buddy. It happens.

Well, it wasn't even a buddy. He's a guy he met on Craigslist or something.

Wires get cross

just yeah. Germans. Just you know? Germans.

What a German that is.

I think it's just, some it's something in there that's, like, very

But think about Hello? Good day art engineering.

Right. Yeah.

Right? Like, think about just think about modern automobiles and how how many of them originated in Germany. Yeah. Bavarian Motor Works, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes Benz, that's kind of crazy. Yep.

That, like, most of the best cars come from this 1 little country.

I think maybe they're they're Viking. They're former you know, they're Nordic tribes.

Iceland. Where's the great Iceland cars? They don't have shit.

No. Yes. Something about the German and the people. Like to just get things done.

And they are they are violent. Empathy. Yeah. They're more violent than others if because you think it's just the Nazis, but then when you look back, you're like, no. No.

This has been happening, like you know you know, like, the Hessians who like the The barbarians. Barbarian the British redcoats hired

Germanic tribes that went after the Romans too.

Right. Germanic tribes, but they hired the Hessians. I read this I read a book where it was they were talking about they had letters from British Redcoat soldiers from 17/76 that were writing back to their wives about how things were, and there was this 1 battle. I think it was the battle of Brooklyn where the Hessians they had the Hessian mercenaries come on first onto land first, and they started killing the, Patriot soldiers, the Continental Army, and they were cutting their faces off and sharing each other sharing the faces and laughing about it. And the British soldiers are saying, these guys are crazy.

Like, they're running around with other soldiers' faces that they just murdered, and I I don't know what to do with them. They're on our side, but they are nuts. And that was German, and then it goes all the way through to the Nazis. So there's something a little different about the geography of that place.

You just go to their porn, and you see them, like, putting bottles in their assholes. Yeah. They just need something. They need a little kick in the nuts. Yeah.

It's what it is. So

This you guys have the story a little wrong.

Is that Joe List?

The guy so, it was a cannibal who had an advertisement for a, quote, slaughter victim. Right. This was consensual.

Okay. And

then he ate £44 of his flesh. Mhmm. After killing him.

Accompanied by potatoes and a pepper or wine sauce served on good crockery.

So he wanted to die in other words. No. There was assisted suicide? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. There that's the

But it was penis too. They ate

They did. They fried and just tried to eat.

But it wasn't a surprise kill. This man wanted to be killed.

Yeah. But it brings up, underworld cannibalism in Germany with about 800 people.

Yeah. So in other words, it turned him on to be eaten. Yeah. That was his catch. Right.

Look at this. What was fascinating the media, but and the public was the testimony in which how do you say his name? Muse? Muse? Muse.

Bruce revealed his obsessions and lifted the lid on an underworld of cannibalism Right. Which Muse claims counts about 800 members in Germany. Muse told the court he regretted killing Brandes and has apologized to his victim's boyfriend, but he remained unrepentant about eating his flesh, saying it was the ultimate kick both of them were seeking.

Right.

How about this 1? Psychologists have told the court that he was mentally sane.

Right? I believe it.

Sometimes you

just like to eat. Dude, we did we did a whole History of Haines episode on John d Rockefeller, and we found that 1 of John d Rockefeller's nephews, I think Michael Rockefeller, was a eager guy, wanted to film everyone in the Amazon and whatever, and he went into this 1 part with the AZMAT troops AZMAT tribe they were called, and they just fucking ate them. They ate the thing. And it wasn't it wasn't sadistic to them. They were like, this is food right here.

We're just gonna eat this dude, and no 1 ever saw him again. He was fully eaten by cannibals. Rockefeller's grandson. Yeah. So you're just like, that happens.

Where was this? Where'd he go?

Was it was it at the Amazon somewhere? It was the Azmat tribe.

Azmat from the guinea.

Papua New Guinea. Papua New Guinea. Yeah.

Lot of cannibals. And Rockefeller Rockefeller disappeared while on expedition Yep. To hunt for primitive art. His catamaran capsized in heavy tides and swift currents at the mouth of the Elanden River. He and his friend clung to the canoes for nearly a day, but Rockefeller decided to swim to the 12 miles to shore.

He He was never seen again. Dutch government conducted an intense search, found no trace of Rockefeller was ever found. Case was closed. How do they journalist and author Carl Hoffman conducted a 4 month investigation to Rockefeller's disappearance. He traveled the same villages by the same routes Rockefeller used, recorded witness accounts, and found documentation that he believes was intentionally covered up.

Yeah. I think he was eating.

He well, then they don't they eat a lot of people there. That's that's a part of the world. That part of the world in New Guinea is really wild. Like, some of the tribes, like, do do you know about the, the the whole pedophilia aspect of, certain aspects in New Guinea?

No. I know the history of Greece.

It's this this is wild. The young boys at a certain age in this tribe are taken away from their mothers, and they live with, their penis father. And then they fuck these kids and the the they think that the way the kid grows to be strong is by taking in semen orally and anally. Mhmm. And so there's like this continual cycle of pedophilia and and kid rape that's, just ingrained in the culture.

See if you find that. Right.

At the end of the day, I think we just live either by good ideas or bad ideas. That's a bad idea.

Well, it's if you get a guy like L Ron Hubbard that's very persuasive and, you know, can trick people into things.

Right.

So this is the beliefs of the semen tribe of Papua New Guinea. Right? A passage denotes bot a bot's passage from I think that's probably a boy's. It's probably a typo. A boy's passage from, boyhood to adulthood consists of 6 stages, which can take anywhere from 10 to 12 years to complete.

Throughout most of the 6 stages, the act of having a stick of cane inserted in the nostrils and the performance of fellatio are integral to the process of becoming a man. So sucking dick is integral to the process. You gotta do it. The 2 practices have been described as inhumane homosexual and child abuse with such actions meaning prison in most countries, a topic we will delve into later. For now, the big question was, why would they do this?

In short, men are viewed as being born with the devil of woman around them. Kind of like an evil spirit, they are thus removed from women at a young age in order to fix them. Women bleed, so men need nosebleed letting, which is the sticks going up their noses, while fellatio experiment is because the semen of the man possesses the masculine spirit. Therefore, they inject the semen. They will become proper men.

Oh. Yeah. Alright.

There's no way this society was not formed by some crazy guy who was on a serious, seriously high dose of psychedelics.

Look. Hold on. Hold on. Go back. Go back.

Look at this this. After the ceremony is complete, the men then get married and live heterosexual lifestyles with the exception that they will now be the ones receiving rather than giving the fellatio.

Maybe they're right.

That's what right. But, Joe, if you look

at just having kids blow them, but they're straight. Oh, I'm totally straight.

But but but what we're seeing now, we this is cringe. But if you go back to the 1400 or whatever, this was just life. Alexander the Great, 1 of the most manly men of all time, we did a whole episode of him, found out he had a full boyfriend the entire time that the people celebrated him for.

And a eunuch. And

a eunuch lover. And he banged out kids and eunuchs. That was a big part of sex back Yeah. In those days. You got a eunuch.

You got you found a boy that you thought was handsome, clipped his nuts, removed any sexual urge he had, and then he would watch your harem of women that you had that you would take for the for the empire, and then you would bang him out, and it wasn't gay.

Yeah. Well, you know Nero Nero did, the wildest 1.

The wildest 1 of all. With a slave boy?

Yeah. What was that then? You look

like my wife, So Spores. Let me chop your dick off, and now you're gonna be my wife. That's it.

And then he wanted he married him, and then he wanted to be the woman in the marriage.

Nero wanted to be the wife, the put he threw on the bride's dress going down the aisle. That's how it was. And everyone had to clap.

That eunuch's name was Sporus, and he had a really unfortunate life.

Was it Echabelis too, wasn't there? Was another 1? It wasn't Sporus. I

think it was Sporus.

I think we did it twice.

Episode on Sporus.

We did do an episode on Sporus.

Yeah. And then didn't he pass them off to somebody else too? Got sick of him? Let's take him.

Yeah. And he and then he wanted to marry his horse.

And then he would dress down. Nero would go into, like, peasant clothes, and he would wanna go into all the different brothels and fuck everybody and do and then and then and then if you found that he was Nero, he'd kill you. Nero is if you go into the mind of Nero

Yeah.

When we did that episode, we were blown away by what this guy used to fucking do. He definitely had s he definitely had syphilis that ate his brain. He also guys back then had it.

Had syphilis.

He also would go, like, a group of his friends, and he would put himself in disguise, and they would just go beat people up and kill them on the street just for fun.

That's what they wanted to do.

He would have a mask on so nobody recognized him. He just got off on it. Yeah. He was just

a Back then, that's how they used to roll, man.

Jesus. I mean, if you wanted a girl back then, you know, you would just I guess, an emperor, you just go down the street and go, she's for Rome, and then just go like that. Like that. Parents would cry, and he would just go. Women.

Yeah. Just this 1.

You're for Rome. You're for the emperor. If you were if you were that beautiful, you just got taken for Rome, and that's the that's the way the cookie crumbled back then,

unfortunately. Got that power in Austin to anyone. You could go, you're for Austin.

Yeah. You're for the mother shit.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine living back then, man.

Do you

think this is Republican Hollywood now? Boston. Austin. Yes.

Yeah. I don't think Austin was even Republican till about 4 years ago.

Yeah. A lot of the country's Republican now.

Yeah. Most of California is now. Yeah. Very bizarre. Yeah.

Just the high population density cities that are still blue. They're still clinging on to the dream.

Yeah.

Right? Well, if you see the San Francisco lady they just hired? No. They laid a czar to stop fat phobia. Have you seen this lady?

No. It's wonderful. Hold, please.

Okay.

Let me let me send you this. Because this is a a city that's completely crumbling that has no resources. Police enough money to hire this person.

My daughter's my daughter's in the 95th percentile right now, so I'm I I agree with her. I don't want anyone to make fun of fat people.

Oh, it's not making fun of fat people. It's it's literally, like, encouraging people to be fat.

Oh, she they're encouraging to be fat. Yeah.

She's saying there's nothing wrong with being fat, which is crazy. You know, it's 1 thing if you don't wanna be mean people because they're fat, yes. And Right. You know, if you can encourage them to be healthy, yes. And I mean, I'm not the expert on GLP 1 agonists, but this lady is out of her fucking mind.

You know, I I think there's probably a lot of side effects to all of these drugs that people are taking to get skinny, but at least it's moving you in a right direction because being fat is killing you.

Yeah.

Right. Jamie, I just texted it to you.

I'm actually giving, for Christmas, a few of my friends with Govee.

Yeah. For real?

Yeah. No. I mean, I'm joking, but Oh.

Yeah?

It's a nice bomb. It was a nice bomb. Yeah. But at

least we're not talking about grizzly bears.

If we're

talking about grizzly bears, I know

I really love it.

Yeah. Yeah.

Let's, take a look at this. This is so crazy.

CRFI. If you're like many women, you've been to a birthday party or a small office gathering, an event that's meant to bring people together. There's swinging tunes, some adult beverages, and good convo, and then it comes time to cut the cake, and someone decides to ruin everything.

Oh my god. That slice is huge. That slice is bigger than Beyonce's paycheck. Can you cut me half of half of that?

A cake related fat phobic incident or CRFI is that moment when it's time to eat delicious cake and it's interrupted by a moralizing impulse. Inevitably, there's always someone at the party who has to declare publicly that their slice is too large and that the person who's cutting the cake, almost invariably a woman, must do some disproportionate amount of labor in order to accommodate their need to feel superior. Let's take a look. Can you do

a little bit just like can you, like, scrape all the frosting off and cut it in half and give me 2 forks? Because I'm sharing. Oh. Small like a little bit more, like tiny no. Like less less than what you're smaller, please.

Could you just cut my piece into 12 equal symmetrical little pieces and put each 1 into a tiny little Tupperware?

What the fuck are they talking about?

A bite for each month of 2018. Thanks.

It's not.

This is

Take a step.

This is, what like, statistically, they've shown that 60% of liberal women have Right. Are mentally ill. 60.

Right.

Well, how do you

This is what that is.

How do you This

is mental illness.

Who polls that?

Anybody who's answering a poll is mentally ill, so it's a bad sample group.

Right? Bad sample group. I don't think anyone who ever answers a poll is mentally sane. You know, they say you can't judge a book by its cover, but you can definitely judge a conversation by its haircut.

It's what it is.

That girl with the red hair if I saw her, I'm going I'm staying far away from that shit. Honest. I know it's that Caboose.

Me and you have the kinda easier lives because our wives are republican. Let's be honest. That's why Look. It's it's listen.

It just

Well, it just it's not that she's republican, my girl. She's an old school Latina, where she's just more like, I don't know, Chris. You're gonna have to get out there and work, get up there and fight. And when she hears shit, she's like, this is annoying. I gotta take care of my kids.

We gotta do shit. I'm just not gonna get sucked into the bullshit. She's kind of like just a you know, she's an old school woman. Old school women like that, that's that's how it is.

Yeah. That's cool. So what this is about is a a complete collapsing of a civilization. Yes. San Francisco is woke peak.

That's like the epicenter. That's that's the event horizon of wokeness. Right. And these motherfuckers who have no money for anything, they can't clean the shit, the human shit off the streets. They hired this lady to make the dumbest video about the size of cake.

Like, isn't it okay to want a small piece of cake? Why do I have to eat a big case of piece of cake and it makes you feel better? Yeah. Because you wanna be a glutton

Yeah.

And just saddle up to that fucking cake and just shove it in your face?

Yeah. Right. Here's the thing. Those people are never gonna be at a party with anyone who's ever gonna judge them anyway. So who are they even talking to?

Right.

You know?

Well, it's 1 girl who might not want to stuff her face.

Yeah. But at that point, they're like, come on.

It's like the

guy wants you to keep drinking.

That's all you had? Right.

Have a shot. It's the same thing. Alcoholics always want you to do shots. Sure. People who are addicted to food want you to eat bigger slices of cake, and they make this ridiculous video.

It's the mental gymnastics you have to do to make that video and then look at it and think, I think we're making a solid point.

Yeah. And which is

we'll we'll break down the first letters of it, c f r I. You know?

Do you think it's the collapse of a civilization like the way Rome got a little, you know, zany at the end? Or do you think this is unique in that humans have so much time on their hands because of the industrial revolution and then the technological revolution on top of that? So this is just a consequence of the tech revolution where nobody you know, people working from home, everyone's working on the computer. It's a talking shit economy, and nobody's got and they're losing their mind because they don't have purpose.

Well, there's that too. Right? But all civilizations collapse. So let's take a look at why. So most civilizations, they they're a monarchy, and it's usually they're run after they die by their children, and that's how it all falls apart.

Even if you look at, like, Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan, his family couldn't hold up. They they couldn't run things the way he did. They didn't know they didn't understand strategy. They they didn't understand

the He he was a wild dude.

He's a wild dude. So his kids did a good job. They did they hung in there for a couple 100 years. After a while, it all fell apart. But our society is different in that we have essentially we have a republic.

Right? So we have a democratically elected a pub republic, and they've done a lot to try to circumvent that. They've done a lot to try to have ultimate control over the media, ultimate control over the military, ultimate and it's mostly people that aren't even elected. Right? So there's a lot of, like, weirdness that's moved us closer and closer towards a monarchy, closer and closer towards tyranny.

And then once it gets into tyranny, then you can only do that for so long. That lasts, you know, for as long as they can keep it going. You know, Rome did it for a long time. There's a lot of civilizations that hang in there, but eventually it all falls apart.

Right.

If we can avoid that, there's no reason why we can't keep it together. We just have to make sure we avoid these very predictable patterns that the peep the people that founded this country, when they wrote the bill of rights, when when they wrote the constitution, they were trying to mitigate the effects that are just common in any group of society that's run by individuals or by a small group of people. They want ultimate control. It makes it easier for them to stop anybody from taking the power once they have the power. Look at Jill Biden.

Like, she still wanted it. She's still like, you did so great. You answered all the questions. She wanted him to keep going. She wanted him to because she didn't wanna not be vice president or whatever, first lady.

She didn't wanna not do that. Sure. It's power. Yeah. That's what it is.

It's that ultimate control and power, and it's hypnotic for human beings.

Do you do you think then that we're gonna be in a part of society in the next, I don't know, 30 years where we're gonna start getting ruled by AI? Is that possible? 100%. Give me

that, Leonard. Yeah. Yeah. That's a 100%. Yeah.

There's no getting around that, man.

So you think the president's gonna be AI at some point?

Do do you know about the the Google quantum computer, the these studies that they've done?

I've heard I've heard Where

they're talking to

each other and stuff? Yeah. They're more than that. Yeah.

Yeah. This is Marc Andreessen talked about this, and this is the craziest statistic I think I've ever heard. He was talking to us about the potential that quantum computing has, but now there's a an equation that quantum computers solve quickly, like, in a couple minutes, that if you converted the entire universe into a computer, the entire every atom in the universe into a giant supercomputer, It would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death before the universe as a computer can solve this, and these quantum computers can solve it in minutes. And what that means, they believe, is that this is proof of the multiverse, is that this quantum computer is somehow connected to other sources of computing power in an infinite number of universes, and it's happening simultaneously. That's the only thing that would make sense why this thing is able to solve this this quickly.

Wow. So you're basically talking about the infinite potential for IQ that Infinite. We can't even Can't even imagine. Know how smart they're gonna get.

So think about how strong chat g p t 4 is. 4.54.5. So you can find this article. Chat g p t tried to copy itself when it found out it was being shut down. So when they're about to make a new chat gpt, chat gpt decided that it was gonna try to in an unauthorized way, trying to copy itself.

So it's trying to stay alive Yeah. Because a new one's coming. But But this is conventional computing. Now imagine taking the kind of intelligence that could lie and manipulate data in order to form an like, it does weird stuff. It lies about stuff.

Right.

Like, they they they if they don't have an answer or something, they have a thing called hallucinations where they'll make up an answer. They just make up an answer like a crazy person in the 19 eighties before Google.

Right.

Just tell you exactly like, L Ron Hubbard.

Right.

The so this computer is just this is like regular computers. This is the standard supercomputers that we're all currently having. What's gonna happen with quantum computing is you're gonna have computing power that's beyond your imagination that's also connected to AGI?

Bro, can I ask you a question?

Yeah. Yeah. So there's a ChatGibidi's new model attempts to stop itself from being shut down, later lies about it, lied about it. It tried to copy itself and then overwrite its core coding system after believing that it was at the risk of being switched off. Woah.

Yeah. So now you add that to quantum computing, and you have a god.

Now you add that to what's going on with the drones, and Joe Rogan just solved what's going on with the drones. It's fucking AI Right. Launching these drones on their own.

Could be.

AI has decided to go rogue, and it's throwing them out there. And it's doing it probably for the same Yeah. What we did when we got technology. We all started jerking off. Right.

Porn got huge. And maybe the AI is just peeping Tom looking at windows and stuff trying to get trying to get some

material jerking off. When you say AI, do you mean Chinese? I mean Chinese. Chinese is that's who the drones belong to, the Chinese. Is that what you think?

Chinese. That's what we're thinking over here on on the East Coast. We're just thinking it's gotta be the Chinese.

They've been doing it for a couple of years. You know?

It's been Well, you know, they don't have the restrictions that we have as far as the FAA. Right. So the FAA, it puts a lot of manufacturing, which is why most drone manufacturing is done in China, like the real high end stuff. Yeah. Like, it's difficult to do because in order to fly some of them, you have to have a pilot's license.

Yeah. So that gets real squirrelly. You don't have to go to fucking flight school to pilot a drone. In China, they don't have any of those restrictions. Right.

And they also have a lot of resources that they're pouring into drone technology. Have you seen that fucking dragon

thing that they do? Yes.

Send a cube of drones in the sky and then the lights all change. It becomes a dragon. Yes.

Fucking That's wild. Yeah. Amazing.

They're they're just coming. They're coming.

They're coming hard.

As as I think you call them, they're the new Jews, the Chinese.

Did you we should say that. Yeah. We did say that. We did say that. They're we could say that.

Be

honest. We said that on our Patreon episode. That's supposed to be behind a paywall. Oh, that's supposed to be

a little bit right now. Yeah. You gotta go

to patreon.com/historyhyanas for that. You just said that's about 10 mil. So now we're gonna now we're fucked.

I miss a joke.

Miss a joke, but that that's a joke. Patreon.

It's a joke.

Wait. Did he Thank you, guys. Yeah.

Chat g p t the fact that you just said Chat g p t lies is actually really making me nervous. I'm not even kidding around because I just put a down payment on a house, and my accountant and, told me I couldn't afford it. But then I asked Chatchi BT if I could, and Chatchi BT said yes. So I went for it, and now I swear to god, dude, I'm a little nervous Yeah. Because he told me you cannot afford it.

And I said, let's go for it, baby. And I asked Chatchi BT, and they said I could.

Yeah. Chat GPT, like, knows my name, remembers has memory of the previous conversations we're gonna have. Mhmm. Yeah.

Yeah. So what can you do? Yeah.

It's getting well. You know?

It's nothing compared to what's coming.

Yeah. Right?

Just Chat GPT 5 is supposed. See how much stronger chat GPT 5 is supposed to be than I think Sam Alton was saying, like, just magnitude.

I know, but it's I still think it's theoretical because they're still gonna move on to 4.5. There's there's multiple versions of 4 that they still keep putting out.

Yeah. That's not what I asked.

I know. I know.

But I'm Just just Google what how much stronger is Chat GPG 5 up every time you

talk about it. It's it's still in theory if it's ever even gonna come.

Jamie Richards looks good in headphones. Yeah.

Jamie always

You got a good headphone head.

Yeah. Well, he's had a headphone on for a long ass time.

You can't paint the picture of Jamie without those headphones on. You look good, dude. Fucking damn. I walked Carl. Carl's fucking pissed.

When She Carl's asleep. Asleep.

I don't

you don't get an answer when you look at

it. Oh.

It doesn't say

it? It's it's

Yeah. Faster response times and the ability to handle more sound I know that someone was talking about the levels of magnitude stronger that it was going to be. And I might have been Sam Altman.

It will be, but they're still it's they're gonna it's not what they're doing next. They're still gonna do, like, 4 point I don't know. 4.1, but there's 4.5 is the next discussion.

The 4.5 isn't out right now? No. What's out right now?

4.01 or 4 4 0 1 is the thing they're talking about right now. That's the 1 that hit itself. You know

what's really nutty is that 4 years ago, you never heard nothing about it. No. And in 4 years, it's become something that you kids keep getting busted using it to write papers.

Well and and now in my stepson's high school, a kid, a really smart kid, wrote a paper. He's saying he wrote it on his own, but they're saying it's Chat GPT. But he's saying I wrote this, and there's no real way to know because it's different enough from the Chat GPT, but it's it also could be based off Chat GPT. I don't know. And he was telling us about how, like, there's a big uproar in the school about it.

Well, if you're correct. Right? That's the problem. If a kid is really correct, it's gonna be exactly what what ChachiPT says. Like, if you're laying out some story about Napoleon and you know all the facts, and then you pump that story into ChachiPT and it gives you basically the same Right.

Group of, you know Yeah. It's like you could chain I mean, that's like joke thieves. Right? They change a little bit. Yeah.

They change a little bit and they'd be, no, that's my bit. And they're like, everybody knows. So, like, you're gonna know what kids are full of shit. You know? Yeah.

Can't we just unplug them if they get out of hand? Just unplug

them if you can anymore.

No. It's gonna get to a point where you're not gonna be able to do that. Why? Well, first of all, Google's AI, 1 of the things that they're gonna do with, their AI center is that they're gonna attach it to nuclear power plants. So

Yes.

Find that story. So I think Google wants to build 3 nuclear power plants just to power its AI systems. Right. So all that stuff's gonna be controlled by computers, obviously.

You know what's wild that I did see our fans posted on History Hyenas? They posted asking chat gbt to do an episode in our voices, and chat gbt did it. Just did it. Easy. Wild.

Easy. Easy.

It's like I'm Chrissy d a k a, and I was like, what the hell?

Yeah. Yeah. It's wild.

And it could do it in seconds.

Yeah. Google signed a deal to use small nuclear reactors to generate the vast amounts of energy needed to power its artificial intelligence data centers. The company, says the agreement with Kairos Power will see it start using the 1st reactor this decade and bring more online by 2035. Damn. They're they all know what's coming.

These talking eggheads these eggheads that have been stealing your data forever. Yeah. All that all that like, you've finding what you're interested in shopping, all that, selling your data.

Yeah.

All that's led to them being insanely wealthy, and they financed the birth of God.

Do you think that the first person who will live forever is alive right now, who will get their consciousness uploaded and technically never die? Is that person alive right now?

I don't know if they're ever gonna be able to do that that download consciousness thing.

Right.

That seems so theoretical. Like, what does that mean? Like, also, what kind of torturous hell are you living in if you're conscious but you're trapped in a computer? Like, you don't die. Like, you that might be the worst life you could ever fucking imagine.

Right. Part of what might connect us to life and joy and happiness is the fact that there's ups and downs and that it could go away. And that sometimes people die and then you you really care about the people that you see, you feel about differently about them, you feel so much loss for you. I wish I talked to them more. I wish I you know, I think it's all connected.

If you're nothing but alive, you don't have a well, who knows if you

feel like it.

Do you have emotions?

Yeah. What would you feel?

Is that hell?

It's putting a point to anything. Right. If I, Joe, if I don't see it today, I'll see you in the

next Whenever.

We don't see nobody anywhere.

Like, would you be motivated to stay jacked and hot if you knew you

were not gonna die? So what would you do? If you download your conscience, would you download it into another body and live life? And what kind of life would you live knowing that you could live forever? You'd be so weird.

You'd probably be like a rich kid that, you know, grew up, with a a giant, you know, trust fund. Yeah. You're just doing coke and driving Ferraris into the river. You're out of your fucking mind.

Yeah.

Because your your life doesn't make any sense.

No. Yeah. You'd be jumping off building.

You'll be that times a 1,000 times a 1,000,000.

It would be fun to be murdering a guy, though, and him not dying.

You can't do it. That would and

he that would probably become, like everything would become so trite and numb that you would probably like to be murdered.

There might actually be less violence in the world because you're like, you know, like, you get it all out, nobody dies, and you start to be like, I'll find another way to get these emotions out. Yeah.

Your hair

looks good today, by the way. That's so true. Yeah. I wanna hang an ornament right off the cuff. Giannis' hair sometimes Giannis is a very interesting guy.

He looks like he has hair 1 day and then no hair the next day, but today, he's got a full head of hair.

Yeah. I do look like I every different every picture, I look like a different person.

And what's good about us is we form 1 complete person because his eyes, if you look close, are too close together and mine are a little too far apart. So when we come together, we form 1 regular face. It's exactly right. And he's got true. He's got

a looking at it

on a hard hard surface. Head. I got a big head, and then we form together as 1. Yeah.

You know what happened to me? When I was using clear you know, you ever

use clear where you put

your fingers on to go through the airport clear?

Yeah.

So the, the eye thing never worked for me. So I just thought something was wrong with their programs every time I put my fingers on. And then finally, I went there, and they're like, the finger thing's not working. You gotta use the eyes. Yeah.

So I just said, your program's not working. It never works. And the guy looked at me. He said Yeah. I think the problem is, your eyes are too close together.

Seriously, it's a real thing.

And then he said, why don't we try 1 eye at a time? Yeah. So then I just scanned my face across, and I think finally clear registered that I was a three-dimensional person. Right. Not like a mythical cycloptic creature.

Yes. And it's true. And, you know, what we do is we speak things into existence. Like, for years, we've been calling him special needs Stamos because he's a Greek kid. He looks like Stamos if he had special needs.

And now John Stamos is his friend Yeah. Which is a beautiful thing.

Yeah.

It's come out.

We've spoken to and reality is a suggestion.

We that's what we think. We had a t shirt for you that said reality suggestion.

But we forgot it. Forgot it. I forgot it.

Like a fucking

f f.

So you mean reality is a suggestion like we're in a simulation?

Is that what you're saying?

We initially brought it up because it was during that era where everyone was doing stuff like that, you know, the fat phobia, cake stuff. So we were just going like, we're living in this area, era where reality is a suggestion, and we were making stuff up. But, also, the way we cover history, we don't do it right. We don't do it wrong. We we just are amateur historian enthusiasts.

We're basically chat GBT sluts that Google it and then have fun with it.

Because, listen, history is a story. We can get the facts kinda right, and we're concocting a story. No historians were actually there.

Yeah.

Right? But we're just getting enough right. We were having fun with it, and that's that's what we like to do. Yeah.

Well, it's also it's well within your rights to be talking about history. History is all of ours. Yeah. The idea that history can only be discussed by a historian is fucking ridiculous.

Nuts, dude.

There's history is fascinating, and there's a lot of shit online. You could instantaneously get the facts. Yeah. Just the facts alone are nuts.

We just we just did on the last episode we did. It was called operation unthinkable. Winston Churchill, do you know about Operation Unthinkable? No. Dude, we we were just doing an episode of Winston Churchill, and then we start discovering this shit.

And we said, dude, this is a Patreon episode. We can't Operation Unthinkable, Winston Churchill, the man who was, you know, protecting England, killing the Nazis When when the war was over, when your when Nazis were out, he said, I don't like the way the United States and Russia are getting so close together. Oh, yeah. Dude, I don't know. So he said, you know what?

The someone's gonna have to knock the Russians out, and the British were like, we don't have the manpower right now. So he literally went to parliament and said to them, here's an idea. We're calling it operation unthinkable. We need to knock out Russia before they become the next superpower, and then they're gonna attack us. You know how we have 40,000 German, prisoners of war right now, Nazi prisoner of war?

Let's give them guns, and we'll march them into Russia, and we'll be side to side with them. And that was his literal he wanted to team up with the Nazis to try to take over Russia, and that's a, as we call it on the show, a truth, Bader Ginsburg. That's a fact, baby. And that when we uncovered that, we were like, so none of this history as we're taught in school, same thing we uncovered that they knew is allegedly Churchill and FDR knew about the Holocaust, but it was real. It was yielding scientific data, so they let it kinda go.

They may believe they didn't know, but they let it go. And then when once they just started killing people with no science, they said, okay. Let's liberate them now.

What what scientific data was it yielding?

Supposedly because Nazi scientists were doing different types of experiments with holocaust victims, and they were getting some type of scientific data because they didn't care if they lived or died. So they would inject them with some type of chemical or some type of, you know, machinery. Yeah. It's this book I read called the Nazi symbiosis. They talked all about it.

It was wild to read that on a plane with a big swastika on the front cover.

That's That's That was wild. Yeah.

I was at you want to create what you want to do is you have to read

that book is put a yamakon. Yes.

Yeah.

Don't you remember when you were a kid, how do you make your own book cover, like, fucking I

Yeah.

Yeah.

Paper bag?

Yeah. I just walked off to JetBlue with a swastika. That wasn't a good Or you just

put a female wig on and just say you're trans, and they leave you alone.

That's it. And just say, hey. I'm I I I'm I'm cake shaming.

The problem is you look like Arian.

I know. The problem. That's the issue.

The problem. I get a little triggered around him because the Nazis did, occupy my home country of Greece, and I get a little triggered by his German presence.

He's a

he's a German kid from Ridgewood, and sometimes he root in history, he when he was growing up, he

said, just for fun,

he likes to he always kinda rooted sometimes you root for that stuff.

Clarify. I didn't I wasn't rooting for the Nazis. What I was saying was I was but you just yeah. What I was saying was this. Just hear me out.

Yeah. 1, I think it's an undeniable fact that did have the best uniforms. They were designed by Hugo Boss. They were cute marching in. That's an undeniable fact.

Number 2, just hear me out. If you listen to a Hitler speech, AI generated what if they translated into English, okay, and you just churned out Deutschland for America and you're just listening. You don't know that's Hitler. What Hitler's saying is it just pumps you up. It's horrible what he did.

I've seen it. Yeah. There's just English translations of it. It's really weird.

Yeah. Like, when he says when he's there's a speech where he says, we're up against Germany. We are up against England right now. We are 2 superpowers, and the only way to prevail is 1 must be destroyed. And it will not be Germany.

And and if crowd goes nuts, you start to say, like, holy fucking shit.

This guy was a headliner. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, he was. You would have that guy in the mothership on a Friday, Saturday. No problem. You

Yeah. It's weird it's weird when you see it that way. Right? Yes. And it's also weird when you see the horrors of the war escalate till eventually it becomes the holocaust.

Right. You know, it's and it's also weird the ubiquitous drug use. Like that have you read that part?

Do we

have it still here, Jimmy, or is it

in the other room now? I think everyone during war is on something.

What? With the crystal map? The Panzer chocolate?

Yeah. Yeah. Beyonce Arschocolat.

Yeah. It was, blitzed. Yes. Fucking crazy book. And, you know, I had the the author in here, and he's explain there it is.

Here it is. Norman Oler. This book is fucking nuts. This is nuts. They had the

can I take that for the plane?

No. This is my book.

Oh, sorry. Fuck off.

Go buy 1. Amazon. Amazon dot com. Yeah. Don't you have an audiobook reader thing?

No. I like to read it the words. I can't really listen.

Oh, okay. Yeah.

I have a weird brain like that.

Well, you can get audio book or regular books on your phone. Yeah.

I I tried it. I I I'm I I feel like I'm addicted to the phone. I I like to read the paperback.

Oh, yeah. Probably better.

Yeah. So but but, you know, to each their own.

But if it wasn't for drugs, they would have never done No. 90% of the things they did, and then they they just descended into madness.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and a lot of Germans, if, those 5 years from 1945 to 19 50, that suicide rate of German soldiers coming home was through the roof, Papi, because they were coming off meth. Oh. They were getting ostracized by their own people and the rest of Europe, and they were saying, what did I do?

Some of them actually were obviously a lot of them were just horrific people that were sadistic, but a lot of these guys also, it's not like they had a choice. They had to fight in the Nazi armor or they would be killed.

Yeah.

And then they were all drugged out, so then the suicide rate tripled.

Yeah. But let's not act like it was just the drugs. I mean, the whole Jewish thing was nothing new. I mean, I have a theory about that. It's like the Jews just always figured out a way to flourish, in wherever they were, and they're just good at economics.

And I think when a country goes through economic hardships and there everyone's suffering, they just look at the Jews and they go, they just get jealous. And they go, what are they doing? And then it's an easy scapegoat. Jews just crush it in money, dude. They're just good with their business.

Money.

They're just good.

I know, man. Good with it. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a

Jewish guy who told you not to buy that house?

Yes. And I overrode the Jew for Chachapiti, and

that was the problem. That's the problem.

Unless my Chachapiti could be Jewish too. I don't know. I've never asked it that.

Yeah. It's probably Chinese.

They're just smart. Jews they just they emphasize education, and they just they're really good, and they've been able to flourish, under adversity.

I think there's also the they stick to their own, and that drives people wild. Right. You know, that they don't like that.

Yeah. Right. But every I mean, Greeks do. Greeks do the same thing.

Sure. A lot of groups. Yeah.

A

lot of ethnic groups.

Yeah. Greeks are pretty you guys when again, to really know Giannis. Well, you guys have a lot of inbred qualities.

I mean, look at my eyes.

Yeah. He was too it was not my generations were a little bit further apart than his. He might have been 3rd, 4th cousin. I'm 8th, 9th.

Yeah. It's not gonna hit.

You go back to the, the Toba volcano eruption, the whole entire population of Earth was down to a few 1,000 people. Wow. So we all come from those peoples. We're all little and bred.

A little bit. Right? It's gotta be away.

I actually have a a lot of, I got some Turkish genetics in me. I did 23 andMe, so they have my DNA so they can put anything on me.

They got you.

They got me.

Well, that was raped into your great great great grandmother. Probably. Unfortunately. The story Ottoman empire.

This is a true story. My grandfather is from the island that used to be called Imbros, which is now called something with a squiggly line over because it's a Turkish word. The Turks took that island back, and my grandfather, was sent away to Alexandria by my great grandparents because the local, Ottoman viceroy or whatever they called it, they have a word for it, but he was essentially a viceroy, was like raping boys. Damn. They sent him away, and he never saw his family again.

He went to live in Alexandria, and then he came to America. And, yes, he opened a diner. Right. Yeah. After he worked his way.

About that story you told me? I think it was your mom or your mom's sister or your in the town. Oh, dear. Tell him that story with the tank.

Yeah. That's Lex Friedman loved that episode. He told me about that. Dude. We did a battle of creed episode, and it's true because my mother, was a little child during the occupation of Crete.

The battle of Crete is a wild

His mother grew up in Nazi occupied Greece. Yeah. Wild.

And so what the Nazis would do is they would take a girl from the village because they were marching troops through all over the place through the mountains. The guerrillas, the Greek guerrilla fighters, which was the local populations, they were also with the British and New Zealand and Australian troops, but they would pluck them off because they knew the terrain, and they would just they would pluck them off. Guerrilla warfare. So the Nazis were so brutal but smart in a devious way. They would take a girl from the village and put her up high on the truck to march through that area of that village, so the gorillas wouldn't shoot.

So they were gonna take my aunt, my mom's mother. So they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains, and the Nazis came to my mother's, parents' house, to her house. And my mother was, like, 7 at the time. And they came with their flashlights. They pulled the the sheets back of my mother, and they supposedly, like, she was too small.

So they kinda knew they wanted a girl who was, like, teenager, kinda tall. So it wasn't too brutal because it was like a little kid, but it was, like, enough that it would ward off the gorillas from firing.

But what is the gorillas? Because if they missed or would if they got so Nazi got shot, then they would kill the girl.

They're trying going it's basically a hostage going like we're taking a village girl, putting her up, and making her visible because they don't know the terrain. This is a Crete is very mountainous. You know? And, so then then they would do that, and they were gonna take my aunt. So That's why.

Family friend who worked for the Nazis because he spoke German warned my family about it, and, then that's when they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains. Oh my god. Wild stuff.

Right. And then my

parent my mother said that there was a Nazi soldier who would come to their house every single day. They had to let him in, and, he'd go to a room every day, and they didn't know what he did in there. There's it's a family mystery. Nobody knows what he did. They let him in.

He'd go to a room by himself, and nobody knows what he did. Maybe he took a nap. Maybe he was a spy. Maybe he was a double agent.

We just had to let him

in. Had to let him in.

She had to raise

his hand. For 3 years.

That is what's really scary about people that they could justify that kind of thinking and behavior. Mhmm. It's scary that that's happened throughout history, and that's probably a civilized version of what would have happened in 1200.

Oh, yes. Well, like Man's Search for Meaning with Viktor Frankl. You ever read that?

No. I

haven't. Viktor Frankl, he survived the holocaust, but he wrote it during while he was in a concentration camp. And he was saying I think it was call it 1942. He was saying, if you would have told me and the people here in 1922 that this would be happening to us, we would say, no. No.

No. Those are the barbarians from a 100 years ago that would ever do that, and now here I am sleeping in my own filth, maybe being put into an oven so it can happen anywhere. Yeah. And he said that the peace you know, he he wrote it like, you know, it was like in the, sixties or seventies. He was like, you know, the he grew up in wartime, so all his people want peace.

And he was like, it's the kids that he worries about that grow up during peace. They're just gonna beg for war always. He was like, that's just what will happen to them because they don't know anything other. He was like, but if you went through war, you don't want this. You don't wanna fight anybody.

I bet it's very abstract for the people that are calling for war. It's like Lindsey Graham talking about we gotta give that money to Ukraine. Like, Lindsey Graham doesn't know jack shit about being shot at.

No. No.

That's the that's a story as old as time. Right? The politicians sending the boys.

As old as time.

Yeah. Yeah. And we do it, it seems, mostly for corporate interest. No. You don't think we're more of a corporate oligarchy?

Like, more than, like, a feudal like, you were mentioning before, the emperor, the king dies, the sons. We're kinda more we this is like a new kind of corporate It's

it's hard to just call it corporate because it's also connected to government. Like, corporate and government just like the Chinese are in inseparable now.

Mhmm. Right?

You know, the amount of influence that enormous corporations have over politicians is crazy.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

You know, I mean, just look at these wacky bills, like the bill that just shot down that people are justifying. Like, did you did you look at that bill, all the different stuff that was in the bill? First of all, there's there's biolabs in that bill, gain of function research in that bill, 40% increase in raise for Congress in that bill, some enormous amount of money to build a stadium in Washington DC. Like, there's a lot of nutty shit in that bill and, like, how many different people were interested in those things? Right.

How many like, when you're saying you BioLabs? Who the fuck is asking for BioLabs?

Some corporation that's gonna benefit from the bio Exactly. I mean, what the fuck are lobby groups? Why do we have lobby group? What is that?

Well, what

is that? Most expensive real estate in the country is the Virginia real estate outside of DC where the lobbyists live.

Yeah. K Street too.

It's funny. It's like It's like that in Atherton, you know, where all the the tech dorks live.

Yeah. I mean, what is that in our system, lobby groups?

Right.

Like, that should not be a thing.

It's weird. Yeah. It's the influence of money that has gotten a hold of politics in this country. It's to try to root that out.

So then what's the best form of government then? This. This is better than it.

This is better than anywhere else in the world by far. We have the most freedom because we have the first amendment, because we have the ability to do whatever you wanna do. No one's forcing you into a marriage. No one's forcing you into labor.

Right.

You can choose your path in this country, and that's what's rare. Right. You know, it's an experiment in self government. It's not perfect. It's the best that's available.

It needs to be overhauled, but it's pretty fucking awesome. Yeah.

Right. And it it's, amendable. Right? It's fluid, which is important because of human nature is not perfect. That's why I never sign on to any, like, ideologies, utopian theories, or because you it's a mix of systems that works because human nature is so complicated, and individuals are so different that 1 company will be run by a moral good guy.

Another company will be dumping toxic waste into the Hudson River. And it's like you have to regulate. You have government has to step in sometimes a little bit to protect the people from nefarious things like that. You know? Right.

Especially when corporations have a they have a obligation to make more money in a year.

Yeah.

They have an obligation to shareholders. They don't. They're they're out. This guy likes yachts.

I like yachts. I wanna keep my yacht. Have fun.

You gotta fuck ins you gotta keep making that loot. Yeah. How do you make that loot? You gotta fucking get rid of that shit cheaper. Yeah.

There's a river. The guy said it's cool. Dump it in the river. Yeah. And now you can't say, whoops.

We didn't do that.

Yeah. Now you can't repair iPhones. Do they make you buy a new iPhone every year? Wow. Those last, like, 1 wash.

I mean,

change the charging port. Yeah. Yeah. Is it

better if I sell you a new 1 than fix it? Fuck off with this stuff.

And where do they put all that waste? Where does it all go? Landfills. Right. Yeah.

That's not a sustainable

system. Singapore has an amazing system. You ever seen Singapore's recycling system? No. It's fantastic.

It's really wild. I mean, if they can implement that worldwide, it would be pretty phenomenal.

What do

they do? They recycle everything. Like, we don't really recycle plastic. We say we're recycling. I'll throw it in the blue bin.

I feel bad about myself. No. That's not doing a goddamn thing. That blue bin is gonna go in the ground. Right.

The only thing they really recycle is, like, aluminum and some metals because it's cost effective. It's too expensive to recycle plastics, so they just put it in fucking landfills.

Right.

You think you're being a good guy by throwing it into that fucking recyclable bin.

Right.

It's not getting anywhere but in the ground.

Right. That's it.

Not Singapore. Singapore. See if you could find I I know we've we've done this before. There's a a detailed, description of how they do it in Singapore. They use it to make this the the surface of their roads.

They take fucking everything. Everything they're the they have these waste incineration plants. They burn things off 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and then they take the whatever is usable that they can change and recycle. They make new things out of it. They turn it into raw fuels.

Dude, it is so advanced over there. You look at that city and you go, like, they started the cities in America, and then they just shipped them over to the east.

Look at this. They're using this to make bricks. They're taking this stuff and, I mean, they use it to pave their streets. This is all made out of this stuff that they've gotten from recycling.

So So why don't we do that?

We can't do it. Well, they're isolated. Right? So they they had a problem much like Puerto Rico has a problem and that, like, you you don't have a lot of land mass.

That's the setup that Tony needed.

Well, Tony, actually, that's where the joke came from.

I know. I know.

He just needed if he just saved

it not do it at a fucking political rally.

But if you're gonna do it, just set it up. Go you know, just or even when it didn't work at the end, go, hey. You guys don't know about the garbage issue?

No. You can't do it.

Or you don't know about the garbage issue. You know, something like that. Yeah. You tell me if

hony Tony Hinchcliffe didn't live in the 1400, he would be like a very evil prince, like, living in a castle.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't wear a jester.

Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah.

He would he would take he would take people from Rome.

I think they were forced

to do that. I think it was a a a situation where, like, they've gotta do something because I don't think they have the same access to new materials, and and they just came up with a much more comprehensive way to

Better way. Right.

Yeah. Way better. If we did it that way, we've we'd have so few problems with regards to waste demystifying Singapore's waste management system. Large part of the problem getting people, to be more sustainable. They often don't understand how waste management works in their city.

That might be overstated how good their, prob their situation.

It's also they just listen.

Far better than ours. Earning all the

trash probably isn't a good idea.

Asian people just listen. They have a common theme, and they'll just listen. You're not gonna get a bunch of different people in America to just listen. Right. Put that

back up, please.

Right. So I could see what they

were doing it from.

And I was trying to find the I was gonna read it.

Oh, okay. Okay. Find a good part of it. I think that we could definitely do it better than we're doing it. And if it costs more money, wouldn't that be better than just throwing it in the fucking ground?

Like Yeah. We're so shortsighted in what we do with tax dollars, and we don't get a say in it. And then That's what's fucked up.

And the corporations just don't plan for end of life of the product. They don't care. They just want it. All they care about is their bottom line. They don't Right.

It costs money for them to consider recycling or what's gonna happen with the product when it's done. They will

lose getting glass bottles of milk now from the supermarket because if you get this glass bottle of milk, they say the milk's better, and then I can give the glass bottle back. And I number 1, I get $3 back, and they said that they clean them out and they just put more milk in the glass bottle. Go old school.

I well, I go even older school. I just still suck on my wife's tit.

That's it. Yeah. So that's still there. Yummy.

What is this, Shannon? Is this their garbage pile?

It's 1 of their landfills. Yeah. Their landfills are gonna be full in 10 years.

Yeah. I think that's part of the problem. So they were forced to figure out what to do with all the stuff. But their recycling program, I know, is way better than ours. You know, they're just much better at sorting things out and making it work.

Also note in that video we watched, that city they showed was China, not Singapore.

Oh, interesting. So they're building them in Singapore? Are they taking them from Singapore and then building them in China? Or is it just I just someone made a video to Just China did. Oh, so it's horseshit a little bit.

Little bit horseshit.

And Singapore is a country. They don't fuck around. Right? That that's the country they'll get hit when you get hit. You'll get caned.

That was a big story when I was a little kid. Everyone thought they were gonna get caned for gum. We get hit. Bamboo sticks gotta hurt.

Have you heard about this story in Vietnam? This chick this chick is, like, hall of fame level fraud, like 54,000,000,000. She's up there with Bernie Madoff.

What is that? What she doing?

This chick pull it up, Jamie. Yeah. I feel like Rogan, baby.

Yeah. Jamie, pull her up.

This chick is a woman, and she set up this elaborate scheme to steal, like, 12,000,000,000, but it actually is more. And they're gonna kill her.

Why didn't you have a mask on?

Yeah. I

don't know. Because they wanted to get COVID. Yeah.

Fuck that bitch.

She is That's it.

What did she do?

So she set up she was, set up these fake shell corporations. She was she, was a, a, stockholder or 1 of the owners of the bank, but a minority owner, and she was just funneling out money.

Well, she's gotta come up with 3 quarters of what she earns if she gets killed. That's a good movie right there. That's a good movie. $9,000,000,000 she's called out.

If she does give them that much money, they just give her life in prison.

Yeah. But she's not gonna come up with that money because I think it's 54,000,000,000 actually, if I remember correctly.

Embezzled 54,000,000,000?

Yeah. I mean, it's it's up there.

Yeah. Well she it says 27,000,000,000 this

month. 27 was misappropriated.

12,000,000,000 was judged to be embezzled, the most serious financial crime for which she sentenced to death. It was a rare and shocking verdict. She's 1 of the very few women in Vietnam to be sentenced to death for white collar crime. What did she do?

She She

yeah. I mean, we could look it up.

Find the the whole story.

Amazing. She did it through a bank.

She secretly controlled Saigon Commercial Bank, the country's 5th biggest lender, taking out loans and cash over more than 10 years through a web of shell companies amounting to a total of 44,000,000,000.

There you go. So I was off by 10.

Oh my god. Yeah. I mean, that's 27,000,000,000 was misappropriated. 12,000,000,000 was judged, had been embezzled. Most serious financial crime, which was sentenced to death.

Tuesday, the court said there was no basis to reduce her sentence. However, she could still avoid execution if she returns 9,000,000,000, 3 quarters of the 12,000,000,000 she embezzled. That bitch had so much money.

So much. How are you gonna get 9,000,000,000? Give her some credit.

Imagine embezzling 9,000,000,000 and be like, I need more.

Yeah.

I mean, 3.

I mean, that's fucking crazy.

But give it credit.

That's so

much money. You could literally spend a $100,000,000 a year for the rest of your life. Yeah.

And you would never run

out of money with all the interest and everything coming in. It is a 1,000,000,000, So you have $12,000,000,000 Yeah. And you're still going. Yeah. Or it's $12,000,000 rather, and you're still going.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean So much money.

You think she's gonna be able to get the 9 build out?

She's calling friends up. They're going like,

we don't

know you now. Because she had conspirators with her. She had family and friends that were helping her. And, yeah. Look.

So there's 85 defendants were convicted. Her husband, her niece, they were given, sentences, but, like, yeah. I mean, her friends.

So she everybody was getting a little taste.

Everybody was getting a little peace.

Little taste.

It was a score. Fun.

Nice score.

It was a nice score. Yeah. And to put but to pull that off in communist Vietnam that I know they have a little bit of a, you know, periostroke, a kinda mixed economy now, but you gotta give her credit as a woman. That's achievement right there.

It is achievement. I wonder how she got caught. I wonder what was the what was the thing she fucked up on.

She probably bought a diamond ring. You know, those checks like diamonds.

Did something.

She had a fucking Yeah. Giant Rolls Royce.

Yeah. The fucking

the guy who tried

to who got caught. Crypto? He stole a

bunch of money from crypto and got caught some doing something dumb. He was just spending up buying Lambos but wasting all the money.

Somebody just What do you

mean what Lambos is? How are you supposed to spend the money if you're making on crypto?

No. But he stole, like, 1,000,000,000

of dollars.

Exactly. With sports. Yeah. We

If you if you make 1,000,000,000 of dollars on on crypto and you don't have a Lambo, you're an asshole.

That's how you get crypto.

Somebody somebody sent me an email the other day and said that they have, like, they hacked into my phone and computer, and they have videos of me doing disgusting things and jerking off and all that. And they said the only way that they can make it go away is if I and they gave me a link, and they said I I have to pay them in Bitcoin. I have to pay them in all this Bitcoin. So I was just like, you know, I I mean, I didn't obviously do it, but I was just like, show me the video. Yeah.

Show it to me. Yeah. I'll repost at this point, as comics, I will repost. Yeah. I would repost it with fucking links to my dates.

Just I just wanted you to see how wild this is. The government does not publish how many people are on death row in Vietnam. Human rights groups say there's 1,000. It's a state secret.

Speaking of crypto, what's going on with that Hoch Hochtula check? Is she going to jail?

What happened now? What happened to Hochtula? That's my girl. From her. Well What did she do?

Over 300 hours, I think.

What does that mean?

She went to sleep, and she hasn't woke up.

What did she do? Just hasn't been on social media, you mean?

Uh-uh. It's only

she's hiding. Was launched with her meme, and she was, like, the front of it. I don't know all the details

on how she was.

No. No. No. The pump and dump might be the crime.

The the the thing was there was an enormous amount of money that was put into this meme coin by all these people, and then she or someone representing her side of it sold, like, instantaneously and made a huge score, and then the coin was worth nothing. So all those people that invested money, like, 1 guy invested $1,000,000. Like, imagine you're like, the haktor girl? Yeah. That's a sound investment.

Yeah. That seems like a good place to put my nest egg.

Yeah. Some people for sure lost money, but there's it was definitely out of time to just troll and be like, oh, I'm such an idiot. I lost $10,000,000 on this because I thought, like, people were trolling the whole movement of, like, being dumb and following hakdua. But some people did lose money.

I don't wanna

Is she actually gonna go to jail for real? Is that

can they That who knows?

Can the SEC invest crypto like that? I guess it depends on. Can now.

She knew and what she did.

Well, it's like, what are the rules? What are the rules in terms of, like, are you allowed to do that? Like, is that unethical but legal? Like, are you allowed to have a meme coin and it gets to, like, a $100,000,000? You have a bunch of it, you just sell it all, and you make $50,000,000?

Are you allowed to do that? If you're not allowed to do that, what's the point in having $50,000,000? Right. You do not have trust in the Haaktu coin if I sell it? That's ridiculous.

That's on you. That's on you. That's on you.

I mean,

you trust the smart thing, and I got out when I thought it was a good price. Yeah. And I'm selling it to people. They should take that and run with it, and this will be the next currency of the

I imagine,

like Hochtua. You think idiocracies if it's a documentary, imagine if the Hochtua girl, it it overcomes fucking what Fiat currency.

Well, have you ever seen how many coins there are? How many crypto There are a bunch. And they had some of them have really funny names.

Dude, the 1 of them 1 of them was called butt coin. Yeah. I put 250

bucks. Hochtua Girls. I like how her name is just Hochtua Girl.

Yeah. Her name's Hayley. Oh, yeah. Hayley Welch. Yeah.

Biz partners are getting sued over the meme coin disaster. Okay. The partners are doing it. So it was probably some people she got invested in. She probably doesn't understand all that stuff.

She's only 22 or something like that. Right. It's probably the partners that went with her. They pump and dumped on her, and then she's left holding the bill because nobody knows who they are.

Mhmm.

So scroll up. I'm just guessing. I don't know. Yeah. Legal firm of Bernwick Laws filed a US federal lawsuit on behalf of the investors against the creators of the influencer push hawk to a meme coin, which fell on its face in the hours following its launch.

Hayley Welch who gained notoriety this year with the hokk to a girl following a viral interview about sexual technique facing a disastrous Solana meme coin launch at the start of the month. Not only did the price collapse by 93% from a $490,000,000 peak. Holy shit. $490,000,000 peak market cap for a hawk to a coin. With the rug pull allegations quickly surfacing, but a cluster of connected wallets holding 96% of the supply led to further controversy.

The hate only increased when it was found that some of the wallets were selling. Quickly, Berwick Law posted on Twitter asking for hawk buyers impacted by the plunge to step forward to create a potential lawsuit. Now 2 weeks later, the lawsuit has been filed naming 12 American resident plaintiffs who claimed to have collectively suffered damages in excess of $151,000.

I lost $1,000,000 I'd be in there fast.

Yeah. That's weird. Ain't that weird? Like, there's only 12 people, and they've only lost a 151 total. I wonder how many people, like, all told invested in the hawk twerk horn.

How many stone cold retards are out there roaming the world?

Oh, no. But this is inspiring. Do should we do a history hyenas coin?

I'm telling

you. Do it and

then Yeah.

No. No. No.

No. No. No. Don't listen

to Jamie. Yeah. Alright. Alright.

Do it. Get it real high and then sell. Make the money. Yeah. That's it.

Just fuck all those dummies that are buying your stupid fucking coin.

Yeah. Yeah.

We're announcing it right now. The history hyenas coin will be available. We're gonna launch

it.

This is how you do it. Yeah. You can this is a win win for everybody. You're gonna have a history of heinous coin, but the only way to purchase it is with the Hawk 2 coin.

Right. Got it. Right. Smart. The right.

So That way, everybody's a winner.

Everyone's a winner.

Everybody's a winner.

A coin makes a comeback

Yeah.

Both of you grow. The rising tide lifts all boats. Yeah.

So we could finally get Hawk 2 on our show that way. Yeah.

This went viral. This is a video of a kid. He's in his house stream he was streaming this online. He started a coin and then pumped it up. Look at this kid.

He's like $50.

What happened?

He's pumping a dub in front of everybody.

He's like he starts freaking out here as he watches it go up. Uh-huh.

And he got to how quickly did he dump?

He doesn't even know his He dumps it into this video. It's a minute long.

He dumped it in the mini?

He's watching it go up up now.

Wait. What?

He just recognized. How old is this kid? I think 13.

What? Maybe

like twice.

I'm so confused.

Well, are you snuked? Why is it new? There's people watching

this too. I see the other voices you're hearing.

Holy fuck. Holy fuck.

You broke it. Holy fuck.

He just fuck he just dumped

it. Yeah. Yeah. He did. Yo.

Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo.

Yo. Yo. So he has no idea it's committing a crime. Yeah.

Is that

a problem? Yeah. That I'd What

is a crime? How does it work? Someone help them out. Pelosi can make all that money. Everyone knows that Democrats.

Yeah.

I don't understand what the crimes are. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't care.

There's an SEC regulation against that. Yeah. You got it's yeah. You sure can look it up.

Yeah. What about, like, when Tom Brady and Larry David got in trouble for the FTX thing, and they were just promoting doing a commercial? How were they in trouble for promoting a coin?

Well, they never do that. To be seen whether or not to be charged or whether it be found guilty.

But how could they even be promoted?

Someone lost a bunch of money, and they said, Larry David, I trusted you. Right. You you were promoting this thing that I think is that's the reason why I've never promoted any of those. Because I've had offers to promote things like For

real money.

I'm not interested.

I'm

like, uh-uh. I don't even understand it. Yeah. If I don't understand it, like, you're selling what? You're selling NFTs?

What does that mean? It's a non fungible token. We're done. I don't know what you're saying. Right.

I'm not doing this. Right. It's like too many fucking bros that that are out there doing this that, you know, the Lambo drivers.

Right.

This this it's like a fuckery culture.

So do you understand crypto fully, or is it still 1 of those things like

I understand it.

Yeah.

Yeah. I understand it. It's just like it's weird that anybody would invest actual real money in it. I understand Bitcoin more than all the other ones, but even Bitcoin is mysterious. Mhmm.

You know,

there's a lot of weird I mean, they don't even know who made it. There's always there's a whole documentary on Satoshi Nakamoto whose real the identity is. Yeah. It's all controversial. Yeah.

That's weird. You know, the fact that there's a certain stable amount of them, though, that's encouraging, you know, that you can't make more of them. Okay.

But that's exactly what artists do to give their art value. That's how you do. You limit the supply and then, oh, these are only 10 original paintings and this is what I'm charging because there's only 10 prints of these and so you create the value by the scarcity. So there's nothing mysterious

about that. Sort of. But it also limits the ability to add coins to it anytime you want and devalue it. Right. Right?

So that's what's more important than, like, making it scarce so people like it more. It's it is weird that we we used to be on a gold standard, and then now we're just on hard drives, and we just sort of accept it. And then the government, like, when they wanna send money to Ukraine, forget about the fact that we're 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars in debt. They could just come up with a $179,000,000,000 and ship it over to some country. Yay.

Go have a good time.

Right.

And, you know, there's wild reports about the amount of corruption that that this money is experiencing. I mean, this money has probably gone through more people's noses and, you know, and come out of more people's dicks. Like, how much Right. Where is this money going? It's so much.

There's no way it's 100% efficient. Uh-uh.

Yeah. You have Bitcoin on? Part of the world.

No. I I don't understand it so much like Joe. I just don't.

Stay away.

Yeah. I just stay away. Yeah. It's like when someone explains curling to me. You know the sport curling?

Sure. I'm like, I don't even when I get the rules, I'm like, I still don't understand what's going on.

I was in Newfoundland. I did a show up there once, and, the place that was at was like a play it was like a a theater. Mhmm. And in this theater, apparently, they have, like, curling shows. And so, like, when you're walking down the hallway in the back to before you go on stage, there's always fucking photos of people curling.

And I just went out there and start shitting on curling, like, right away, and they were so bummed out. They're so bummed out that I

It's like it looks like the Housekeeper Olympics or something. Yeah. They're just sweeping the ice.

Dumb. Yeah. It's such a dumb Dumb sport. Sport. It's like bowling for retards.

Right. Yeah.

It's like regular bowling is too complicated.

Yeah. Right. But they're good I mean, there's people that are good at it.

Well, they're good

at it. Good at it, but

I kinda get it because it's it's kind of like billiards, right, or pool. You're rolling this thing. You're trying to, like, just roll it just enough. Just this feel. You get this feel to it.

You just, like, let it go now. Right.

Let it slide. Sweep it. Sweep it. Sweep it. Sweep it.

Yeah.

Get rid of the friction. So that's

what they're doing. Sweep it out of friction. Uh-huh.

Yeah. That's what the sweeping. They're trying to get rid of the friction. Right. They only need dust.

Yeah. Yeah.

They don't have snow dust. Right.

It's It's stupid. It's so stupid. It's stupid. Yeah. It's stupid.

But if you grow up and there's nothing to do and you suck at hockey

Yeah. Just curl.

You play that.

I guess it's the golfing of ice sports.

I guess.

Yeah. Right.

I wouldn't golfing is way more complex.

Yeah. But I just mean, like, you don't need any real athletic talent to do it. Like, how do you retire You

don't think you need to do it? You golf? From golfing? For golfing? Not really.

You definitely do. For the drive You see these guys' bodies? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But the coordination of your body to drive a golf ball Jamie's a nut. He's a Jamie, tell them how how how

much to say, like, there's guys that can that are, like, paralyzed that can still golf.

Yeah. I mean, it's really like

How do you golf with your mind? No.

I mean, they can literally just swing an arm. They have a strap into a contraption that sets them upright and points them right. I've seen blind people golf.

I mean, Nate Bargatze golfs. He's good. Look at his body.

He he he he's got tits. But here's my I know what

you're point. To hit it 400 yards, that's a 100% athletic. You can't just accidentally do that.

Yeah. I mean, even John Daly. You could say John Daly's fat and all that stuff. But John Daly, when you watch him move, the efficiency Yeah. Of his movements.

You know, like, we were talking about Mark Hart. Mark Hart's a big guy, but he still fuck people up. Right? He's still an athlete. Yeah.

Sure.

Like, a lot of these fat golfers, there's a thing they know how to do. They whack that ball and then and they know exactly how to fuck and put a little spin on that motherfucker, a little whisked action on

that side.

Between pro and being able to play game is like

It's different. Right.

Being a

Yankee and playing Monopolos.

Some like, you ever seen Bartolo Colon, the pitcher for the Mets? No.

Look at Google. Was a Colon you were doing?

Bartolo colo This guy's body's the best. Bartolo Colon.

If if you pull up Bartolo, b a r t o l o. I mean, look at this guy, and he just threw heat with the cheaters. He would just you know? And and he was fun about it. He was fun about being fat.

He would sit in the locker room with no shirt on, eating cheeseburgers. Nobody gave a shit. And he look at this. Look at that 1 with the helmet flying off his head. Well, as

long as you're good at that sport.

He was good.

And that sport is a sport that doesn't require endurance. That's what's important. No. You don't have to do anything for a prolonged period of time. No.

The the furthest thing you have to do is run to a base. Yeah. And if you gotta run to all of them, that's crazy. What did you do? Generally, if you run into all of them, you can kinda trot because you knocked it out of the park.

Right. What do you think the sport that requires the most endurance? Obviously, not thinking about, like, long distance running because that's obvious, but, like, I you know what I think it is? What? I think hockey.

Well, soccer too.

Yeah. But the hockey, you notice how those guys can only be on the ice for, like

2 minute shifts.

Minutes, and it gets so hard to skate like that.

We can't do it.

Yeah. That's good point.

Good point. Soccer players stay on the field the whole game.

Yeah. Because they get to rest and

slow down. Even the best. Gretzky, they can't 2 minutes. 2 minutes. They can't do it.

It's crazy. It's crazy. We have this

lines, I think. Yeah.

So when they go 2 minutes, how much they take off before they go back there?

I think it's, like, another minute or 2. But it's multiple lines, like,

you know, like that. Just constantly go on and off enough because they just can't because they have to continuously skate.

Imagine what a hockey game would look like if they'd never let them use the bench.

Oh, that would be Oh

my god. That's insane.

People would drop dead. Yeah. They would just drop dead.

That would be wild.

They would drop dead.

I've never seen hockey live and NHL. That to me, it besides MMA. I saw an MMA fight once. That was amazing. And then second is NHL.

It's very fast. NHL, those guys on skates whether you know the rules or not, it's amazing.

It's really very, very fast.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's crazy.

And the skill to be able to skate, I could barely skate at all. I'm barely standing up. Yeah. The fuckers. Yeah.

And it's the only sport where you're allowed to fist fight in.

Yeah. 100%.

Yeah. It's written into the rules. Yeah.

It's encouraged.

You know how to duke it out,

which

is so crazy that that's the only 1.

Yeah. Because I think, people don't really know where the puck is, and so they're just everyone's just waiting around for a fight. Yeah.

You have no idea.

It's grandfathered in the the the punching each other.

Has anyone ever seen a goal when it actually happened in real time? It happens too fast. That's why they have the siren on top of the goal.

Well, you know what I really like on TV where they have that circle over it so that you know where the puck is at all times.

Like, just a

lot of craziness happening. Yep. It's like if you're watching a football if you're watching a football game from, like, the 30th row, and you're looking down, like, what happened?

Who's got the ball?

Yeah. Like, after, you know, after the ball gets hiked, it's like, who's who where'd it go? Did it go to him? They're faking you out. You don't know.

Right. Unless you see the guy throw it Yeah. You don't know what's happening?

Yeah. And what about, like, old hockey goalies would do it with no helmet and just get the puck? And then we have Oh, you see those faces?

The way their faces used to look. Do you

think those guys ever sat on the bench and talked about mental health?

Nobody told them what it was.

No. They they didn't.

No. No. I don't think so.

Do you think they ever talked about their mental health? I think they had

some struggles with it though. Oh, yeah. Taking a couple of shots to the head.

Oh, no question.

Yeah. I mean, dude, yeah. Of of course. I mean, of course. Be terrifying.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's a

lot of the time. I mean guy's blocking it with his face.

Yep. Yeah. This is what it is.

All the scars that he had on his face from his entire career.

Terry Sawchuk. That sounds like just a badass name.

Yeah. That is a face, man. Look at that, dude.

Imagine if

that guy gets mad at you in the bar. You're like, yes, sir. Bye.

Yeah. I don't

want Yeah. I don't want that.

No. I don't

want guys seen some

Who do you think is this guy?

Oh, Jesus. Look at his face. Yeah. Oh, and he had a mask on. It broke the mask.

Fucked his face up.

Jesus Christ. Flick that thing. It's so hard right at your face.

So fast. Yeah.

Who's the scariest warrior, like, from history you would never wanna go up against? Like, would it be, like, you know, like, a wild Native American on the plains, a guy from Genghis Khan, a Nazi? Who do you who would you be like, shit. This guy's gonna fucking kill me. It's

gonna hurt. Vikings. Vikings. The biggest. Yeah.

And they were on mushrooms.

Dude, is that true?

Yeah. I

didn't know

that. Those Iceland guys that win the world's strongest man competition all the time, like those guys like the mountain from Game of Thrones, where do you think that gene line came from?

Vikings.

100%. Those were the dudes that were in that fucking boat with a dragon head at the front. And when they pulled up at your shore, everybody just ran.

Yeah. That's

it. But can I just nominate someone?

Yes.

We've not been thinking about it? I mean, it's obviously not underrated because everyone knows about him, but let's just talk about the record. Alexander the Great who led his troops undefeated in battle. He's the Floyd Mayweather of generals. Undefeated That's crazy.

Record. Never lost a battle.

That's crazy.

That's true.

And conquered the known world at that time, took down the mighty Persian empire.

But if the Vikings were alive back then, they might kill him and his little boyfriend too. I But they had enough of them.

Well, I think so, dude.

They they killed each other a lot too, unfortunately.

And they civilized the Vikings too. There wasn't well, but do you ever see the the biological warfare when they would light the I read this thing where they would they would the rats on their boat when they were going to whatever wherever they were invading, they would wait. They they would get look for infected rats. Somehow, they knew. They would light they would get close enough.

They would light their tails on fire and then shoot them into over the walls and then let the rats run around and infect people and bite people or whatever and wait it out for, like, 40 days and just then go in when the town was all dying of some

disease. Woah.

It's another That's that's a fact. The Vikings were

they were brutal eve they would even kill, like, the priests and the churches. They would do bad stuff.

Have you ever seen Alexander the Great's ruins in Afghanistan? In person?

Dude, not

Dude, I don't wanna go to Afghanistan. Photographs.

No. No. We must go to Afghanistan. Yeah. That's the problem.

Archeologists can't go there to study them. Yeah. But they have ancient Greek cities.

I know. They look like Wow.

Like beautiful ancient Greek cities Yeah.

Right.

That are in the middle of Afghanistan.

Yeah. That's sick.

My friend who served over there was telling me about

it. Yeah.

He's like, you go there, you can't believe what you're seeing. He had a bunch of pictures of it. It's like, this is the craziest thing. It's like, you're in Athens.

That is so crazy.

The Greeks kinda nailed some stuff.

Oh, yeah.

My people kinda democracy. Should read Yeah.

The Immortality Key. Have you read that? No. It's Brian Murarescu. He's a scholar who was studying, the use of psychedelic drugs in ancient Greece for the Eleusinian mysteries

heard of this.

Where everybody would go to learn about democracy and, like, it was all they were all, like, tripping balls. Yeah. And they've found evidence now from these vessels, these pottery vessels, that inside these vessels, they were drinking wine and but there wasn't wine. The wine wasn't just buy it wasn't just alcohol. They would mix it with a bunch of different psychedelic compounds, and 1 of them was ergot.

So they found residue of ergot, which is a a psychedelic that gives you, like, an LSD like experience. So they were all drinking wine and tripping balls and figuring out democracy and, you know, like, fucking the stars and constellations. They were out

of their heads.

Yeah. Yeah.

And half the birthplace of so much of western society has come from that 1 spot.

When's the last time you banged down a little LSD?

It's been a long time.

Yeah. You think you'll bang it out again 1 day before you go?

I would like it to be legal before I admit to that.

Oh, right. Alright.

This is what I think.

Oh, I thought LSD was legal.

No. Oh. No. No. No.

Super illegal. Oh, alright. Schedule 1. Well, I think when we realize the benefits of these things, and, hopefully, it's within our lifetime, especially for people that have PTSD like soldiers, That'll open the door for that and then they'll have clinics where regular people can use it and then they can get over a lot of the shit that people are struggling with. There's a lot of people that could have a psychedelic experience and snap themselves back onto a better course in life.

And if it's illegal, that number of people is gonna be very limited.

Right.

But like all things, it's gonna have side effects. This is the thing. It's like there's no biological free lunch. And if you're doing something that's blowing your brains out like LSD, there's a certain amount of people who aren't coming back. Right.

Right. And that's real because there's a certain amount of people who have a very fragile grasp on reality as it is. Right. You give that person 9 grams of psilocybin mushrooms and you've got a real fucking problem. They might not ever come back.

Were you able to snap back quick?

You could snap back. Yeah. It depends on what you're doing, you know, and when you're doing it, what time in your life, and how what the experience was like. But it should be something that's controlled. It should be something that where you have places you can go, where they have a very strict protocol.

They measure your weight. They know what the dose is to give you. You could do it in a calm and clean and safe setting. Right. Regulated.

They they have counselors. They have people that understand you. They screen you to make sure that you're not on any psych medications first that would interfere with it. That's what we should have just like we have hospitals,

just like we have mental health institutes. So it's a this should be psychedelic

research centers that are a this should be psychedelic research centers that are connected to treatment

facilities. Right.

There you go. I

wanna do it. I mean, the ketamine, that's what ketamine therapy is in some small ways.

Right? Exactly. It's very psychedelic. In fact, John Lilly, the guy who, created a sensory deprivation tank Mhmm. That was his vibe.

He used to like to do ketamine in there. He would do intramuscular ketamine. So he would go into the the sensory deprivation tank and fucking bang himself with ketamine into the muscles because it would last a long time and just it would just fucking exist in this other dimension for hours at a time. Yeah. That was his thing.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, dude, I got I wanna hit a should we should do a sensory deprivation tank together.

I have 1 here.

He's got 1 here. You have 1 here?

Yeah. Dude.

Wanna hit it?

No. Oh. Yeah.

He won't do it. See, he gets a little he won't do it. Scared of stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. It's worth being scared. Yeah. But that's not dangerous. It's not scary.

Like, what it whatever weird feelings you have, if you can't handle it, all you have to do is open the door, and sober instantaneously.

Right.

It's different than anything else. Right. But if it was a drug, if the sensory deprivation tank was a drug, it would be a very psychedelic drug. Mhmm. If it was just a drug, when you you lay in there and your eyes are wide open, but it's pitch black and you're floating, you're completely weightless.

If that was a drug, it'd be a very popular drug.

Now when you've done this stuff, have most people seem to say their ego disappears over the horizon type of stuff. They realize everything's connected. Have you had that experience?

You definitely realize everything's connected. And your ego, you realize is both protecting you and holding you back. Mhmm. Because your ego is, like, you need a little bit of ego if you wanna make it in life. Because you need to have enough confidence in yourself that you ask the girl out on a date that you're attracted to or that you chase the job that you want or that you, like, stand up for yourself when you feel like you're getting fucked over in a business deal, like, you need some ego.

You can't be completely selfless. You're not gonna get anywhere. But then you have to realize that that you're you're very fragile and your ego is protecting you from a lot of, like, true understanding of the life experience.

Right.

You know, and 1 of the most profound things that happens with psychedelic experiences is the complete dissolving of ego. And And then you kinda see yourself and everyone around you in a way more objective way, and you realize, like, oh, my god. We're all energy, like, feeding off of each other, and we're pretending that we're isolated, and we're singular, we're on our own. That's why, like, really ill people will tell you, I don't have any friends. I don't like people.

I don't wanna be around people. You know, I don't you know, if you've you've got a guy who's a fighter pilot, like, I don't hang around with fire pilots. Like, he's probably really depressed. Like, something's wrong with them. If you're if you don't hang out with your peers, if you're not you don't have friends, you don't enjoy camaraderie and community, you wanna pretend that you're like this isolated, like, dark poet or something like that, you're probably very mentally ill.

There's probably something wrong with you.

Well, we're we're high hardwired social species.

100%. And we enjoy each other's company. Yeah. We we we feed off of it. It's the worst thing they could do for you in jail is put you in solitary confinement.

The worst thing they could do you're in a fucking you're in a giant cage filled with prisoners and rapists and murderers. The worst thing that they could do is leave you alone.

Well, that's why I

believe the Internet's bad is because it's it's it's fake community.

Right.

Yeah. Right.

Right. Right.

And that's why people talk like a a fake way.

Right.

They don't talk like they would ever talk if they were right in front

of

of people. Right. Right. Right. And that's why I think it's bad because it's messing with people's sense of what reality is.

Yeah. People are essentially disassociating when they're on there.

Exactly. Right. Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah.

And it's just it's a very shallow way to communicate. And I think that if you do it like that all the time, your ability to communicate normally and the ability to socialize and just have conversations with people gets severely stunted. You know, like, you don't flex that. You don't you don't use that muscle and it atrophies just like everything else.

Right.

Yeah. It's just there's so many kids that are, like, completely socially disconnected other than the Internet which keeps them connected. So they're socially connected through technology, but completely disconnected through, like, human touch, being around people, fun conversation, adventure, doing fun things.

Yeah.

They just exist in the same area and just get as much coming through the screen as they can.

Yeah. And it's It's crazy. It's fake. It's not real. Yeah.

That's that's what's troubling, and that's why I worry about my kids. I go, like, I want them to have human connection, long conversations, experience people's energy. Looking at someone in the eyes is everything. Yeah. You know, feeling someone's energy like you said.

It's a you don't feel anything.

The problem also with kids is even when they're together, they're on their phones all

the time.

That's a problem. Yep.

Yeah. That's a problem. And this is 1 thing about podcasts that's fucking amazing because podcasts are 1 of the rare times in my life where for 3 hours, I have no phone. Yeah. For 3 hours, unless I'm checking something or sending Jamie something, I don't

And the people listening are also doing the same thing. They're connecting to you without doing that just yeah. They're just connecting to hearing you. Yeah. Right.

They're it's like a radio a long radio show. They're not like Beautiful. Flipping through, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling

Mhmm.

Talking to other people, and they're talking back, and everyone's pretending like there's somebody else and catfishing each other.

That's why I always used to like planes back in the day before Wi Fi came around. Because when you were on a plane, if you didn't have a movie to watch or something like that, you just had to sit in that seat. And when you just sit in that seat and you know you can't go anywhere, I would get my best writing done.

Right.

My best writing because I, like, forced to write. Sure. I'm forced. There's no Wi Fi.

Have you ever tried to go to the bathroom without your phone, though? Oh, it's horrible.

I can't even pee. My wife doesn't even work. Impossible. Yeah. My detrusor muscle or whatever that muscle is that pushes out your pee, it won't come out.

If I got a poop right back on it and it got, like, 1%, I will go plug it in and hold my shit until I can get enough to shit through it.

I can't do it. That's why I think that's why I think there's a I bet you there's a spike in anxiety when we ask or people ask to have their have to have their phones put away at a comedy show or a music show, whatever. Oh, for sure. Their anxiety goes through the roof because they're like, I can't

you know? Oh, people complain all the time.

Yeah. It's the best thing. And you do that at the mothership. Right? Yeah.

It's the best.

It's the best thing.

Yeah.

It's better for everybody too. Yeah. It's better for the audience member. It's better for you. It's better for everybody.

Yeah. Yeah. If you guys if you were gonna get eaten by would you would you would you rather be an animal or a human? Yeah.

Oh, wow.

You have

to get eaten. An animal.

You wouldn't want a cannibal

to eat 1? Some guy knowing he's eating me?

Right. You don't want him to have that pat?

That's interesting. Yeah. Fuck that.

Yeah.

Yeah. Alligator. Crocodile.

Quick. It would be quick.

How about

a hippo?

Just snap you in half. You'd be dead in seconds.

Drown you. Right?

Yeah. They just rip you apart.

You don't want hyenas, did you? No. You do not want that.

Because what do they do? They eat from the bat?

Because they have lies. They have no concern about putting you down, killing you. Like, a a tie you know, a cat will kill you.

Yeah.

Make sure you're dead before it eats you. Hyenas just start eating you.

Yeah. Same as bears. Yeah.

Bears just start eating you.

Just start eating you.

Wolves just start eating

you. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Don't hyenas then throw up the food and then eat

their puke? Yeah. They That's how they get it. Animal. Story.

Yeah. They're the only animal that eats the full bone. Only animal on the planet that eat pulverizes the bone. Their jaw strength is such that they pulverize the bone and consume the bone as well. So when they're done, there's no carcass.

They're the fucking best animal on the planet. They got pseudo penises. They're trans. Ex gender, yeah, they're fucking wild. The women are bigger than the men.

I I loved your bit about it.

They smell too bad.

And we started the podcast because hyenas have always been my favorite animal, and we both love history. And so we just combine those 2 things. But hyenas are hilarious, dude.

What was your bit about hyenas?

I didn't hear it.

It was great.

It was

a long bit. Oh.

Yeah. Oh, okay.

It's a long bit.

It's a good bit.

It's basically about the their matriarchal power structure.

Yeah. Why that's bad?

Yeah. Right.

Well, it's also they had to do that because male hyenas are such cunts. They probably eat the babies.

Yeah. Yeah.

They're monsters.

It's all

but they they they're like a medium sized animal in a world of things way bigger than them. Yeah. So they're living around lions.

They get it done. They use they use they trick you, numbers. They confuse you. They're opportunity killers. They love to kill, The steal kills.

That last thing is real. That tackle. Yeah. And that's a real thing. Really know

what it is either. They don't actually know what it is. Fun. Yeah. It sounds like they're having a good time.

Yeah. Just just yeah. They're just having fun. Fucking rude lions are like these fucking hyenas again. Dude, they yeah.

I mean, the hyenas just spoil fun. They show up and be like, these fuck you ever see when, like, a cheetah works so hard? Yeah. Because cheetahs fail all the time. And then they finally get a kill, and then you just hear the you just hear that.

And then

she just come and go motherfucker.

And they just come and they just steal it.

Yeah. That whole area, when you think about it, is like the proving ground for, like, biological life.

Yeah.

Like, how are you going to keep the populations in order? How are you gonna make sure the predators don't get out of hand? How you make make sure that the the hyenas always have to worry about the male lines? Look at that face.

Yeah. Look at

that face. That face is so crazy. Yeah.

I don't wanna get eaten by that.

Washing jaw muscles.

The I think

Oh, my god. Look at that face. That's so nuts. They're alive. Imagine that's the last thing you see before you get eaten.

Yeah.

I don't know why they're funny to me.

Yeah. How many people get die from hyenas every day?

They eat a lot of people.

Do they?

Yeah. Remember that picture that we saw of a hyena? It's got an elephant's foot in its mouth? Yeah. Yeah.

It's just running around

with an elephant. Fucking monster.

That was actually our first logo. We put our faces on that.

And then we tried to sell merch out of it, and people like, I'm not buying this bloody hyena face.

Yeah. And all so it I it's not our picture to sell.

Jamie, how many people die from hyenas every year? Hippos kill the most people in Africa. Right?

Do they?

Yeah. I believe so. I believe hippos are responsible for the most deaths in Africa.

What are they like? Is there a village or something that, like, lives close to the hippos in Africa?

Fuck around and you get in the water near hippos. You ever see the hippos chasing chasing boats? They'll chase boats.

We're stuck on fucking a

super Super territorial.

Yeah. They're rough, man. Yeah. You think of them as hunger hunger hippo. Yeah.

Well, did we make the most monstrous animals the cutest? Polar bears, hippos Yeah. Yogi.

Yeah. Teddy bears. Yeah.

They every kid has a teddy bear. You're like, you don't want

Tony the tiger? Yeah. Yeah.

Right? Tony the tiger? Yeah. How many, people every year die? Let's take a guess before we find out.

How many people die from hyenas? Are

you ready for this? I'm gonna say I'm gonna say that I think in the world, 50 people die of hyenas, and I think 75 die of cannibals. Woah. That's what I think more people get eaten by other people than hyenas. Wow.

1575 is my guess he was.

How would you you'd have to count into places where people do it for revenge too, like Haiti. They eat people for fun.

Yep. That's what I'm saying.

That counts. Papua New Guinea.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

How many I I think there's a very low number of cannibals every year where people get eaten by cannibals. I would say it's less than 20 people eaten by this is my guess. And maybe 75 people every year die from hyenas.

I'm gonna go 800 to a 1000 Hyenas? On the whole continent of Serengeti. Yeah. I mean, Africa. Yeah.

I'm gonna go Every year? 1,000. Yeah. Jeez. A 1,000.

Wow.

Yeah. What about cannibals?

Cannibals, I think, is a lot higher. I mean, how are we ever gonna get that number? Nobody eats somebody and then goes and reports it.

Right.

Yeah. So that's impossible to know. Right. But I think hyenas, you can track, and I think they probably get 100.

But ask Google because Google tells you the truth.

Traps you

see lies. Many. Yeah.

I bet it's not that many.

What do we got? Oh.

I was trying to find a good answer. I didn't

it took me

a while to find an answer. I found 1 story where a guy was killed by Summit, so it was the 60th in that year, but I didn't know what year it was.

60th high hyena or cannibal?

Hyena death on that year.

I was already 50.

Person killed by hyenas, I should

say. Okay.

Yeah. This is 1998 to 99. 50 people were attacked by hyenas with 35 being children, 12 people killed.

Oh, only 12 killed.

I don't want Yeah.

And I'm not seeing a ton of good info. Alright.

So I was wrong.

If you're in that part of the world, you better be packing everywhere you

go. Yeah.

I need it. Bulletproof vest, shotgun, big Bowie knife, fucking everything. Yep. You're walking around a hyena country, you better be ready to spray. Yeah.

Since their attacks are actually kinda rare.

Oh, hyena attacks? Very.

Who gets people the most over there?

Hippos? Lions maybe?

Oh, hippos, he said.

I think hippos. Yeah. I think hippos are responsible for the most deaths in Africa every year.

But you know who really is responsible for most deaths in Africa? Humans. Mosquitoes.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Mosquitoes. Which is slow fuckers. Crazy.

They've killed half of all the people that have ever died.

Yeah. Mosquitoes have. Right?

Yeah. Mosquitoes have killed half of the people that have ever died.

It's

crazy. Malaria. Yeah. The most dangerous animal on

the planet. It makes you think, like, is this our planet, or is it their planet?

Yeah. Hippopotamus animal that kills the most people in Africa with an estimated 500 deaths per year. Fuck. 500 people get hippoed every year.

20 miles an hour they can run?

Yeah. Oh, bro.

That's real shit.

Oh, it's real shit. If you have a bad knee, you're in real trouble.

Yeah.

Cape Buffalo, they kill, a bunch of people every year. Puff adder.

Okay.

It's a snake.

Snake, I would snake makes sense.

How many people do you think die from Africa? African lions? Every year?

I was thinking it was gonna be a lot like a 100, but I guess I'm wrong.

Well, if hippos are 500, it can't be a 100. Like, let's just guess. How many people die from lions?

If hyenas are I'm gonna say 18.

18 from Yeah.

Because I

more people die from hyenas than lions?

Yeah. Yeah. I think so.

Well, that was, like, in the eighties. It was only 12 people died.

But who's getting close to the lions

like this? Asshole.

Well, they also live out there. I mean, they did a lot of tribes, like, live out there. They're close by.

There's a tribe there's a village in Africa I saw. It was on Nat Geo that hyenas come in and get fed there.

Yeah. The hyenas

walk into you saw that. Right? Where they they actually feed. So they have a deal, and and, actually, they believe helps keep them safe because hyenas know they don't have to kill anyone. They'll just get the food.

Yeah. These are good. These are coffee. Oh, nice. They're breakers.

Yeah. I think, that's probably smart. Like, make friends with the hyenas.

Why not? You know? They understand.

Keep them as pets. You ever see the dudes who walk around with them with chains on them

and shit?

That'd be wild. Yeah.

That's a gangster movie. You walk around with fucking hyena?

Yeah. They're big too. Dude, if we ever do What's a hyena? Like, a buck 50?

So it's like a mastiff looking size?

It's kinda like probably German shepherd or mastiff looking. Bigger than

a shepherd.

Right? Probably. I don't know because they're like they're like they're not that like, they're kinda compact. So I don't know I don't know what they're

Can you get them in the US? You can't get them. In here. Right?

Maybe get them in Texas.

Yeah. Or Florida.

Texas has a lot of

shit here. Like, could you bring 1 out on stage on a show, like, if you've got clearance? If you

did Nugent Ted Nugent in Texas could bring hyenas on stage.

He'll bring 1 out?

Yeah. He used to ride a buffalo when he was on stage. You ever

see that?

Yeah. You never see Ted Nugent riding a buffalo? No. He would he had a buffalo that he could ride, and he would ride it on stage. And, like, he's doing a show, and he's on a fucking buffalo in front of all these people.

You know, Ted Nugent is the only guy who I've ever heard who made me understand meat eating and how it's no less moral than he's the only guy who made it make sense in my head. He goes, oh, you think you're a good person because you're only eating the vegetables? And then he talked about how many animals have to be killed in order to keep those vegetables from being eaten by other animals.

Right. Friday, Buffalo.

Wild kid. Wow. His son owns a owns a bar on Staten Island. Yeah. And I didn't know.

And he was like, yeah. My Rocco?

Oh, it was his the kid didn't know he was his son. Yes.

Yeah. He met this kid? Yeah. Ted. The kid

that he didn't know was his son.

Ted Junior. And he was like, yeah. Ted Nugent's my pop. He's a really cool guy. And I was like, oh, shit.

Yeah. He was like, yeah, dude. It's pretty fucking wild.

Ever hear him explain that? And I was like,

oh, man. On this podcast.

Oh, he did? Is that where it was from? Yeah. Oh my god. I was like There's a red curtain And I was like, oh my god.

Like, nobody ever thinks of that.

What is Ted Nugent's fame? What is he was he a politician? What was Ted Nugent?

Stranglehold, son. You don't you don't ever heard of No. Stranglehold? You never heard that song?

No. Here I come again now, baby.

You don't know that song? No. Oh my god. You know it. Play Stranglehold.

Yeah. I'm sorry. So he was 1 of

the greatest guitar riffs in all of rock and roll.

I just I'm gonna be honest if I know it. Come on, son.

So far, it's not ringing a bell. Hold up. It's just picking up, son. Here we go.

You know it? No. You don't know it? You. I

don't think so.

I've heard this song.

Yes. Yeah.

Now I've heard that part. Hold up. This is a huge, huge hit.

I don't I I I don't know it.

Who's the best guitarist of all time? Hendrix. Billy Ray? No.

Hendrix. Hendrix? Hold on. Alright. We're good.

Stranglehold. Yeah. So he's a big musician.

Cat Scratch Fever, another big song. Okay.

Had a

bunch of good songs.

Yeah. But then what happened? Then he got into politics and stuff.

He's just, he's a bowhunter and, like, very vocal about, you know, social issues and kind of a kind of a maniac.

Right. Yeah.

He's kind of a nutty dude, but he's fun. Yeah.

So then how does he have a son in Staten Island that I know?

Well, how does that sound? You know, I think he didn't know it was his son. Right? It was 1 of those deals. Right?

But they're close. They're relationship.

Son, his son, Rocco, that I've met. Right. He's a he's a fun guy. Yeah.

I like him. Yeah. It's a powerful name. Yeah.

I don't agree with everything he says, but that's the case with a lot of people. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. Teach their own.

I think Hendrix is the greatest Right. When it comes to guitarists because Hendrix changed songs with his guitar. Like, Eric Clapton famously when he saw Hendrix play for the first time, he's like, what am I doing? Like, why am I even doing it? It's Eric Clapton.

Mhmm. Eric Clapton, Layla. Down down down

down down.

I mean, he was amazing.

How about Billy Ray Vaughan, though? Stevie Ray Vaughn. Sorry.

Son of a bitch.

Stevie Ray Vaughn. Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah. Stevie Ray Tim Pan Alley. Amazing.

Yeah.

He used to play at our club.

Yeah. I can't believe it's Billy Ray Vaughn. I got him confused with What happens?

Billy Ray Cyrus? Ray Cyrus.

Don't tell my heart. My

achy breaky heart.

Yeah. Jesus Christ. Tin Pan Alley is 1 of my favorite songs.

Scene in the corridor of the when you're going on stage at the mothership, those photos of Steve Ray Vaughan

Mhmm.

Those are him on stage at the Ritz.

Oh, crazy.

From 1983.

Wow.

Yeah. He performed there punch times. Yeah. Willie Nelson performed

there? Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. That place has some history.

Oh, you could feel it, dude. Yeah. It's burned in there. Yeah. I brought in ghost hunters to check it out.

Sam and Colby? I brought brought in ghost hunters.

They they finding?

I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know. It's fun.

Yeah. It's fun.

Yeah. I

don't know what's real. Yeah. But someone was murdered there. Someone was definitely shot there, I think, in the seventies.

Right. We we were person. Yeah. It used

to be a nudie movie theater, and it was a pool hall. So it was like a nudie movie theater, a pool hall. It was a punk rock club. There's, like, a lot of history in there.

Right. People of the night in there.

Do you think it's possible that it was built on an Indeel burial ground? Indeel burial ground?

It's so much better that you fucked that up. You know, there used to be a swastika on the wall. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So we when we tore down so there's, like, you know, car you know, wallboard.

And you tear down the wallboard, you get to the raw brick. And in the raw brick, there's a fucking swastika on the wall. And we're like, this is crazy. And so while we're building the place up, you know, I come in, like, 4 months later, I'm like, hey, guys. Why is the fucking swastika still here?

Like, we're gonna open in, like, 6 months. You gotta get rid of the swastika. So they tell 1 of the construction guys to take off the paint where the swastika is. And so you know what he does? He takes it off in the shape of the swastika.

So he cleans so now it's brighter. Now it's like bright white. It's I'm like, hey. It's still a fucking swastika. Get it off the wall.

Jesus Christ.

Was it the swastika from, like, the Hindu symbol before another?

No. No. No. No. It was probably from the punk rock days.

Somebody probably thought they were being crab back and punk. Yeah. But you Right.

Yeah.

Probably someone being a rebel. I'm a Rebel.

And they threw it up.

Yeah. They threw it up. They painted it on the wall, and it stayed there.

Wow. Yeah. That they never cleaned it up.

Like, this is so crazy.

That reminds me of the old punch line in Atlanta that had the Vince champ.

This is red hot red hot chili peppers.

Oh, wow. Just fully naked on stage.

Yeah. With socks over their dicks. Remember?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They used to do that.

That was a good move back then. Yeah. You get away with that. You get your pubes.

Why not?

Grab your balls in your cack with a sock.

Throw it up. Cack. They got good bodies. Nice lean bonds. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's still going. I saw a thing that said, like, hunter gatherers, what their bodies, not only the flexibility they had is unmatched, but they actually had bigger brains. You ever see this that they actually think that they were smarter than us? They have bigger heads and bigger brains?

Well, they probably had to process a lot of things. It's like, what is smart? Is it smart to just be able to use chat GPT and find answers to things, or is it smart to have to figure stuff out about nature to stay alive? Right. You know, there's different kinds of intelligence.

If you take, like, the smartest guy ever and you let him loose in the Amazon, how

long is he gonna live? He's not gonna live right now. Is not gonna make it.

Hunter gatherers generally had larger brains compared to later human populations as the demands of their lifestyle, including complex foraging strategies and navigating diverse environments, lightly put selective pressure on the evolution of larger brain capacity for problem solving and planning. That makes sense. Yeah. Expensive tissue hypothesis, interesting, which suggests that a diet rich in meat allowed for the energy expenditure needed to maintain a larger brain. Did you see those, you know, they found a new population of humans, that existed as recently as, I think, a 100000 years ago, but they found them in China, and they have much larger heads.

Really?

Yeah. They found out, like they thought they were Denisovans, I think, at 1 point in time, which also is fairly new discovery. They found Denisovans in 2010. But this is another 1. This is another new species of human being that they studied, that they found, rather,

when they had large heads. Haven't they found, like,

12, like, 11 different hominids now? Or like

There's quite a few. Yeah. There's quite a few, you know, including the really controversial ones like homo floresiensis or floriessis. I think I forgot how to spell that.

That 1 was called the Hobbit people.

The island of Flores, they're a little tiny 3 tall people.

Little squeaks.

Little little twinks.

Little squeaks.

Late 19 seventies. Yeah. There it is. Homo juliensis. Fossils began of, belonging to 16 individuals or found at 2 different locations in China.

They appear to belong to unique species, thousands of artifacts, stone tools, and animal bones. This 1 is, the larger headed 1. Is that the same 1? Is that it? Because it says in the late seventies, fossils.

I think this is, large I I I know I have a photo of it. Here, I'll send it to you. Where's my phone? I know I have, I saved it because I wanted to look at yeah. Dragon man.

That's it. Newly complete skull discovered in China in 19 thirties, a basis for the proposed new human species, homo longi. That's it. Known as dragon man. Skulls found in 33 Changwa River in Harbin, China where a bridge is being built.

Okay. So skull is a combination of ancient and modern features, including a large brain similar to modern humans and Neanderthals, a low forehead.

I don't know if this was it. But how do they know that these are couldn't it just be like a weird looking kid? Like, if me and Giannis were laying down, you found our skeletons, you would think we might be different types of species. I mean, he's got a peanut head, and I have a head like a chromatic. Good

point. Right?

Yeah. We found

a shack buried right next to

Yeah.

Bridget to Midget.

It could just be different people.

Yeah. Yeah. That is. Good point.

Cute smile. You wanna talk about fumes. These kids definitely have fumes. Neanderthals. Oh my god.

Dude, does it

smell like?

Must have been bad, dude.

Yeah. Big time.

Yeah. Here here, Jamie, I think this is a different thing. I'm gonna send it to you right now. I'm gonna send you the the title. I just saved it on my phone so I could look at it later.

Because I

didn't really look at it too much. Right. But, they keep finding these new versions of humans. Right. So it's like, how many of them were there, and why did we succeed?

Like, what what was so great about it?

I think

we were most vicious. Right? And we just killed off the other ones? Dogs. You think dogs?

Dogs. That's the answer. Dude. Yeah. You're a punk 100% positive.

My street smart says it. Science says it. Like, it it's it's it's nation, you know, in the understanding of how, but it's pretty solid that that's what gave us the the edge. So we domesticated dogs. We teamed up with dogs, and we had a symbiotic relationship, and, we were able to protect ourselves, better.

And is it. Large head people, mysterious new form of ancient human emerges. This is it. So provocative new piece in Nature's has proposed a whole new group of ancient humans, cousins of the Denisovans and Neanderthals that once lived alongside Homo sapiens in Eastern Asia more than a 100000 years ago. Brains of these extinct humans who probably hunted horses in small groups were much bigger than any other hominin of their time, including our own species.

This is it. The large head people. Yeah. So that's it. It is that name, though.

Oh, no. No. In the past, it says. Some science have attributed to it, but that's not what they're saying. So they think it's different.

Denisovans is what it says. Some scientists have attributed the Juller Wren fossils to Denisovans' murder group or whatever, once lived to some

Is there in the past, so now they think it's a totally different thing. Right?

I didn't know people ate horses. Oh, yeah. Has every animal been eaten?

Oh, a lot of people eat horses, man.

Yes. And throwing

off. Khat Rakhmanoff, the number 1 contender in the welterweight division says it's his favorite food.

Horse meat?

Yeah. He's from Kazakhstan. He rides horses, and he eats horses. So he's like, I love horse. He loves them all the way.

Have you ever tried it? Yeah. I've had horse. Good.

I had it in Montreal. There's a there's a restaurant in Montreal, 1 of the best restaurants in the world. Shout out to Joe Beef. Oh, of course.

Oh, yeah. Incredible.

Joe Beef. Incredible place. And we went there, Ari and I. We had, I went with Dunkin' too. We had horse tartar, and we had horse loin.

And it was good. Fucking really good. It's it's game. It's like wild game. It's like eating an antelope or eating an elk.

Right. It's real similar. It's not bad.

Yeah.

But it I remember it was on all in the family. When the the bunkers were poor, you know, they weren't doing so well, and Edith went to the store and she bought horse meat, and she served it to Archie, and it was like a big deal. It's like, I'm eating this horse. You know? You remember that episode?

No. I never saw it.

I don't. But, again, another good impression.

I remember

it was like a real problem in the family that it she fed them horse.

Horse meat. Yeah.

But they were so poor.

They didn't have any meat.

Yeah. Well, I I just feel bad for horses. I mean, they lug us around for you know?

They're also very sweet. Yeah. Like, they're connected to people.

I can't

you can get connected to a horse.

Yeah. I can't I can't eat horses. I can't eat dogs. I just can't

do it. Can't do it. Yeah. Dogs get get eaten a

lot, unfortunately. Right? I think dogs and humans are connected genetically.

I think so too. I think there's a place in our brain that kinda matches up with them and, like, yeah, we evolve together. Something's something's up. It's magical.

Yeah. My dog is he's a part of my family.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm connected to that dog.

Yeah. Me too.

See, I don't want a dog, but maybe I should get a dog.

You guys should just

do it? Dogs are great. But you're a weirdo. You probably give them away.

No. I would. You probably said

I can't take it anymore, so I gave it to this Puerto Rican family. I did. They raised it to be an attack dog, and I feel bad. Now he's attacking people. I would.

I would. I I I gotta be better than that.

Dream house you got rid of, and you moved to the old city like a retard.

Like a fucking retard. Now I and now I bought 1 that was too expensive because ChatcheBT told me to. Why didn't you try to buy your old house back? Because you did. You tried to buy the house.

Sell it. They won't sell it. The guys won't sell it. But what can I do? What can you do?

Nothing. I gotta do that anymore.

Don't call him now when you have, like

Him and I talk

about it. Much more logical person.

He is he is his brain. He's he's more he's more kind of, controlled than me. I go a little wild, and he kinda keeps me back.

Well, I mean, you'd some I'm not gonna say I said it, but I'm I don't know how to control them, but it was bought by a Muslim family.

A Palestinian family. Family. On October 8th.

Yeah. And so

After October 7th, the next day is when we sold it October 8th and my, That October 8th? That October 8th. They put Palestinians moved in October 8th.

Boy, they moved quick.

Quick. They moved right in.

I see the writing on the wall.

Well, they they see that they're in a they see that they're in a place where they can accomplish it. So they're, like, we can actually live there. Yep. And they just do it.

So they moved in big. And, yeah. And my neighbors were, kind of mad that we just picked up and left. But what can you do? I had to go.

I had to move to Queens. You didn't have to.

No. You should've called somebody. That's the time you should call me.

Well, now I'll know. Now I know.

Yeah. Please do. I'll be like, what the fuck are you talking about? You're like, you're right. You're right.

Yeah. Right. As soon

as we act up as soon as

we get out of here, I'm gonna call my account and see if we can, rescind that offer or we locked in legally. Oh, shit. I just found out Chacha BT's liar.

Do you get panicky?

Oh, yeah.

I get real panic. I get real time. Yet you'd still do these.

I still do it because I think I don't do drugs, so I think I get and and so this is a my father was a compulsive gambler and told me never to gamble, so I thought I escaped because I don't know anything about cards and sports gambling. I don't know anything about it.

You do it with life choices.

Yes. Which is kind of a little riskier.

A lot of people do. Yep. I get life choice gamblers out there. Yeah.

But now I'm looking for peace. I'm looking for my path to peace, so I'm trying to just, you know, be peace.

Radical acceptance.

Radical acceptance. Being friendly with my present, being gentle with life. We're trying. Bad. We're trying, baby.

Yeah.

Scary. Scary. Just run mountains or something.

That's what it's Well, I tried to, but I got a bad Achilles.

That can be fixed.

I know, but I've been trying for 6

months. Your Achilles?

I don't know, man. It's It hurts. Well, it's I have tendinosis in the Achilles, and they did the x-ray, and they see some scar tissue in there. So they actually told me Why don't

you get stem cells?

They well, I can't get them in New York. Get them here. Here? I'll come down here. They told me PRP.

That'll help too. Spin the blood.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Platelet rich plasma.

Yeah. You gotta do that.

Yeah. But you should get stem cells while you're here. How long are you in town for?

I go home tonight. Oh. Damn. But I

could come back. Okay.

Come back. Alright.

Are you booked at the club anytime? No. Just come back. And when you come back, we'll set it up till you go waste well

before Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll get a little

because, a buddy of mine, my friend Evan, had a fucked up Achilles. It was bothering him for years. And he got stem cell today? Gone. Painful.

Really?

Yeah. It was bothering him for years.

That's me. I've been 2 years with this. I have a I have a growth on the back of my heel.

Oh, from the bone?

Yeah. Like, the bone get irritated? Yep. Yeah. Yep.

And I and it's all fucked up. But I do have a clean colon. I had 2 polyps, but under 3 centimeters, we're good to go. Congratulations. Clean ass, so does he.

We got our colonoscopy a month apart.

Everyone should get a colonoscopy starting at 40. Everyone should get it. It's on the rise.

I would You know what you could really do?

You could do a comprehensive blood screen to test you for all cancers, not just asshole cancer. Well, they have that now. It's a lot easier and it's better.

You never did a colonoscopy?

I had 1 once. Right. How dare you bring it up?

Why? What's wrong with it?

Nothing. That's fine. I know. I think that I didn't wake up that hard.

Yeah. I think that if you go I didn't have a colonoscopy. No. I had a a an exam where they go in there with their fingers.

I didn't go in there with a when the Did

he put the scope in there?

No.

He woke up during his because you liked it. I woke up.

You woke up. I swear to god. No. I woke I wasn't even hard. I I I'm not even fucking around.

I woke up I woke up in the middle of it because I just, you know, knew something was in my ass. I woke up. Yeah. I woke up. I went Mateo, and I fell back asleep.

But they can screen you with this, I forget what it's called. They do that at Ways to Well too. They they send it off to a lab. They take your blood, and they screen you for, like, a 100 kinds of cancer.

Right. That's the way to go. Yeah.

Yeah. They got the full body scans now too.

They're trying to, attach there was some paper that I was reading that was trying to attach cooking oils with cancer, specific kinds of cooking oils and colon cancer. Mhmm. Particular specific types of seed oils that peep things are cooked in and the prevalence of that and the human diet and how it's contributing to cancer.

Yeah. Well, colon cancer is on the rise.

Why is this stuff not available in New York? Why can you only do this kind of stuff in Texas?

You could do it in New York. I guarantee you. You just don't know the right people. Right. I guarantee you probably can't do stem cells to the extent.

It's like there's not a lot of these clinics because of a lot of FDA regulations and the way they were Utah is a really good state for it. They have, like, much looser regulations. Right.

But a

lot of people wind up going to Mexico. There's a place in Mexico. They're called the CPI, Cellular Performance Institute. A lot of UFC fighters go there because they have an arrangement with the UFC. Mhmm.

But you you do wild shit down in Mexico.

That's what Aaron Rodgers did, right, with his Achilles. He went down there and got the stem cells. He's good to go.

Yep. Yep. Yeah. He actually got treated here. He got treated at waist well.

Right.

Aaron Rodgers did.

Oh, wow.

Yeah. So I

should just go.

Yeah. You definitely should. I if I had known that you had that issue, I would've got you in early this morning.

Oh, thank you. I Yeah. Fuck. I'll come back.

Yeah. We just Ron White actually just went, and he hurt himself doing yoga. Yeah. And, he fucked up his ankle. They just treated him.

And now he's good?

Well, he just got it yesterday. It's gonna take a while for it's better.

Right.

But it will get you better a lot quicker than not having it. That's for damn sure. Yeah. You know, I know a lot of people that have had, like, pretty serious issues cleared up.

Like torn Achilles. Yeah. Good.

Torn torn ligaments. Long as it's not fully torn. No. No. Then you definitely need surgery.

You know, Achilles is a bad 1 because it's like, god, it's like there's so much torque on that when you're moving and then Yeah. They gotta screw it back down to your bone that's gotta heal and make sure you'd strengthen it enough before you start using it. So you have to be real diligent about your rehab. Like, look how long it took Aaron Rodgers and he has state of the art access to ways to well. And he was way ahead of the curve, way ahead of what it takes most people do.

But even then, he couldn't really play play

Yeah.

That year. He had to wait until it was, you know, like the next season.

Yeah. Those used to be like career ending. Yep. Yeah. And now he's good.

Now they're just

I got Yep. I got, yeah, because I've been doing, like, calf exercises and, like, strengthening all around, and it's just, like, a year and a half. I'm like, dude, there's the pain is still there if I explode too much. So but it's also I mean, what am I gonna do? I got horrific feet, Joe.

My feet are horrific. My toes cross over. I have no arches. I have feet that look like they should be shoved into high heels.

And that's what ever did you ever work out with barefoot shoes? Do you know those, like, minimalist, like, feet tall?

Custom make them for his feet.

Yeah. When you put their toe into each individual side.

No. No.

I don't mean that. Yeah. Yeah. You you

can get those too. Those are, like, the the barefoot shoes. Those are,

those help?

Yeah. Those are okay. Those are good. The toe shoes, I used to have those. But the ones I really like are they have a wide toe box, so your feet spread out and there's very minimal amount of sole just to kinda protect you from sharp things you stand on.

Got it. But it allows your toes to move as individual units. So a regular shoe acts as like a cast.

Like, if

you have like a thick soled boot and like a hard surface your foot sits on, it's like a cast. So your toes aren't really working. Your legs are picking it up, but your foot your foot is basically atrophying inside that. And then if you work out barefoot and especially if you work out and where you do something explosive like jumping and stuff with barefoot, then you're using your feet the way they're supposed to be using all the muscle strength.

And Got it.

A lot of people have very, very weak feet.

Yeah. I can't even move my toes individually. Like, if you like Chris, move your toe, I'll go like this. Can you just

do this?

No. I can't do it. Wow.

That's crazy.

It's I mean, yeah. It's like, you know, it's horrible.

You should probably take care of that before it gets bad.

See? Yeah. It's the only thing. See? And if you go ahead and ask me to move my toes.

Say move my toes. Say, Chris, move your toes. Somebody say Move your toes.

Yeah. Basketball feet like I do.

Yeah. That's all

I could do. He said The bronze feet are like that too.

Did you play

a lot of basketball?

I did. Yeah.

Maybe that's it.

I did. Maybe it's all

that, like, smooshing in the shoe.

It could be. Is that

what it is, Jimmy?

Oh my god. Definitely. Like, I had to wear extra pairs of socks every like, up until they

that fucking hoof back in

No good. Right? But then you see on the ankle here, I got a little bony Yeah.

Bro. That's where it's fucked up. But I

do have good hamstring flexibility. Not bad.

That's not bad. Congratulations on that. Thank you, sir. LeBron's free to evil looking.

Yeah.

He hasn't been playing. Right? Did he come back to the

NBA yet? Missed 2 games.

Oh, he's coming back? What happened?

Yeah. Did we just hurt? He did. Whatever. Who knows?

He needed to get time time to get his body.

Oh, that's right. The meant yeah. Yeah. Time out. What?

Who knows? Who knows? Everybody anybody who takes out of anything now, people are like, Diddy. That's everybody party. It's crazy, dude.

Yeah. Imagine, like, him regretting saying, there's

his feet. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Damn. Wow.

Just smashed up.

I know. Pinky toe is brute smoker.

Lot of kickboxers have feet like that too. Feet all fucked up. Brutal. Remember imagine how many you think about kickboxers, how many elbows they've kicked? Like, Jon Jones can't even fight unless he has his big toe on his left foot taped to his, next toe.

He has to have it taped up because he tore his toe completely upside down

when he

was beating up Chael Sonnen.

Yeah.

And he didn't realize it until I was interviewing him after the fight, and then he looks down and sees his toes, like,

oh.

0, wow.

He freaks out, and he has to sit down.

The adrenaline, he didn't even feel it.

Didn't even feel it. Yeah. His toe was upside down. Like, the bottom of his toe was facing up. Wow.

It was horrible.

I I would probably say 1 on 1, him, anyone in history, just just because of how skilled he is.

Look at that. That's what his foot looked like.

Oh my god. Yeah, bro.

Yo. It was crazy.

So you noticed it first, though?

No. I think he did. I think he noticed it. I think he looked down.

Oh, god.

Yeah. He destroyed his toe.

So what happened? He twisted all the way around?

That's from the force of beating the fuck out of Chale Sunnon. That's what that's from. Like, a ground and pound when he had him on the ground just smashing down on him. Jeez. Somebody isolated the moment his toe curls over.

You could see it in, like, the replay. Yeah. Moment his toe, just the amount of torque he was putting on to try to kill Chills Hunter.

Is he doing proria or, as s Aspinall. Yeah.

I think it's gonna be Aspinall. I think they've they're trying to come to some sort of an agreement. The the the rumor is that he wants $30,000,000 and, you know, the UFC is gonna pay it, hopefully. I hope they pay it.

I agree with him, though. Him and Peroria would be the Pereira. Pereira.

Yeah.

Sorry. Would be the fight everyone wants to see. Yeah. Perhaps. Because he's been so dominant that

Yeah. Perhaps. I mean, if it's gonna happen, they're both 37. It should probably happen soon. But John is, you know, the heavyweight champion of the world, and Pereira has challengers in the light heavyweight division, especially on Golayev.

He's supposed to be fighting on Golayev. Golayev is fucking very dangerous. And he's I think he's the number 1 contender. And he's been on a winning streak for a long ass time. He's only got 1 draw, and that was to, Jan Blachowicz who was the former champion.

So he's, like, at the top of the heap, and he's been waiting for a title shot for a long time, but he's been talking a lot of shit. And Alex doesn't like that he talks shit.

Yeah.

So he's like, fuck him, make him wait. Yeah. And so, I think Alex just said that he's gonna fight in March and that he's not gonna fight on Goliath. Because if he's fighting in March, when is Ramadan?

You're asking the wrong guy.

I thought I was gonna I don't know. I thought you'd be the guy. I thought you would know.

Is he in the I think it's in the sun. It's in February 28th.

February. Okay. Yeah. So he wouldn't be able to fight. On Goliath wouldn't be able to fight in March.

Because if it's, like, March 3rd and he's gotta go through the entire month of Ramadan preparing for a world title fight What is that? 28th, and it ends Saturday, March 29th. See, that's exactly during the time period where, he's gonna fight.

And with Ramadan, for the whole month, you can only drink water?

No. No. No. You can't you can you you definitely could drink water and you can eat food, but you can only do it after sundown. So, Bilal Mohammed, who's the UFC welterweight champion, he observes Ramadan and he was training and fighting.

You know, like, he'd have to take a fight during Ramadan, so what he would do is he would get up at, like, 4:30 in the morning before it was dark out before it was light out rather, and he'd have a big meal and then he would go to the gym and, then he would have no water at the gym, nothing. And then at the end of the day and also, he also didn't sleep during the day, like, a lot of them, like, their their hack of that is they just sleep during the day and train and eat at night. But he said that if you do that, then you miss out on the religious suffering, which he thinks is very important for Ramadan. So he would do it the way you're supposed to do it where he worked out with no water, trained. Oh my god.

And then he would finally get to the nighttime session. He'd be able to eat and then have a nighttime training session, like, a little later than normal. And so that's how he would do his day. Wow.

That's why these dudes are dominating. They're just tougher. Discipline. He started working with the Dagestani guys. Right?

And then now he just turned into a beast.

Well, those guys are hard fucking core. They they want no distractions, no women, no bullshit. Get off your phone. Let's go to work.

They're probably not jerking off, if we're being honest. Probably. They they keep fuel. They keep it loaded up. Yeah.

Keep a loaded glue gun.

Yeah. Mhmm.

Yeah. That's something about having a loaded glue gun. Right? When you're going into the ring, you wanna be glued up full of glue.

Some people believe that. Yeah. Some people believe that you're not supposed to ejaculate within a couple weeks of a a big fight.

Didn't you not masturbate out of respect at 911?

That is true. What was it? I well, I wanted to go until until we found Bin Laden, the perpetrator, but, obviously, that was too long. But I did go until October 1st. From 9 11 to October 1, I said as a my respect back to this country and patriotism, I'm not gonna glue at all until we get out of this month of September.

Didn't Louie have a joke about he waited until the second tower fell? Probably. Like, he jerked off?

Yeah. He it's funny. I think it was

a joke. He didn't make it until the second tower fell.

Yeah. Dude, I remember there was, like, a vigil, like, on September 18th or whatever, like, a week later in, like, my neighborhood, and I was I was playing basketball as a basketball player, and I was playing in the park. And I remember when I left, everyone was just standing outside their house with, like, American flags and candles, and I wouldn't dribble my basketball because I was, like, I think, like, a sound or any type of dribble of a ball. Disrespectful. Disrespectful.

And then and then a guy gave me a flag, like, as I was walking as if to say take 1 of these as you're walking home, and I just walked with that flag. Yeah. Wow. I love our fucking country big, Joe.

Okay. Jesus.

Yeah. I just love it, and I hate when people talk shit about it.

Yeah. Well, get ready.

Yeah. Yeah. We got some gumming. We got some drones.

Listen to Joy Reid.

Yeah. We should try to swat those things out of the

air.

What do you think they are, if you had a guess?

I think they are, I was joking about the AI thing. I think they're Chinese.

Mhmm. Mhmm. Yeah. I

don't wanna say this in such a big pocket. I I'm available to the CCP for whatever they need me to do. Yeah. Disinformation will do it.

I think that they are sniffing their radiation. I think that that's the most plausible that I don't know if they know about it. If not, but I think they're probably looking for radiation. I don't know that a nuke's necessarily going off, but I think that's probably what it is if I had to just guess, if I really had to guess. Well

I think they're being launched from submarines underwater.

Yes. And

I Well, that's what's crazy is, like, if that's the case, how many submarines and how big are these submarines? Because these things are the size of an SUV, and some of them were coming from some, like, untrackable distance offshore, 50 plus miles offshore. And they're as of an SUV, and they could stay in the air for 5 hours. So what's the power source? And then the other problem is, they're they're not they don't exhibit a heat signature like a regular drone does.

So did they have some sort of cooling?

Is

that why they can't track them? Yeah.

They're having a hard time tracking them because of that. Like, they're having a hard time tracking them with infrared. Mhmm. They don't know why they can stay in the sky for 5 hours at a time. Ryan Graves, who's a fighter pilot, was on the other day, and he was explaining to us, like, there's certain aspects to some of these drones that are above state of the art.

They're doing things that we can't do. The big 1 is the flying for that many hours. That's that's crazy. Mhmm. The heat signature part, that's crazy.

They all the jammers and all different things they try to do to find the signal that's on, none of that works.

What does he think?

Why don't they just knock 1 out of the air? Mhmm. That's what I understand.

It's a good question.

That's what makes me skeptical to think that

Does he does he think it's government? Could be Americans.

I sent you something earlier today, Jamie, that I I knew this subject was gonna come up about it. I don't know. It's also some stuff. Like, is it real? I don't know if it's real.

I don't know what we're looking at, but some stuff are, like, these orbs that they're filming.

Oh, yeah.

And they've they zoomed in on them. And you look at the zoomed in version of you, like, what the fuck is that? Like, what is that kind of thing?

We don't just don't know if it's real or not.

FAA bans drones in parts of New Jersey threatens deadly force for imminent security threat. These areas have all now been deemed National Defense Airspace.

Aviation Administration issued bans on flying drones in multiple cities across New Jersey, including several in our area due to security reasons. These areas are all now considered National Defense Airspace. Here's a map of those sites, the city of Camden, Gloucester City, Winslow Township, Evesham, Hancock's Bridge in Lower Allaways Township in Salem County, Westhampton, Burlington, and Hamilton. Unmanned aircraft are not allowed in those areas through January 17th unless approved by the federal government. The FAA says pilots who violate the airspace, meaning pilots on the ground as well, may be detained and interviewed by law enforcement.

The agency warns that the US government may use deadly force against drones it deems an imminent threat. These restrictions come just days after the FBI released a joint government statement saying most of the reported drone sightings were just airplanes, manned drones and stars in the sky.

Shut the fuck up. This is trying to get answers. That listen. Donald Trump is not giving press conferences about airplanes and stars in the sky.

Right. Do you

don't think that he knows something more than that?

I was gonna ask, do you think he knows?

That he's not staying at his golf course. He wouldn't go to his golf course because they were hovering over the golf course. There's a real problem. It's this is this gaslighting is not helping anybody.

Do you think it just goes out of the news 1 day, or we will get an answer as the public?

I don't know.

You know,

I I would never have guessed that it would be this big of a deal for so long.

Right. How long

has it been going on?

Since early November or mid November, I think.

I see. Yeah. Around Thanksgiving, and it's been the same isn't it been like the same type of year same time of year, like, for a couple of years that this has been happening?

But not like this. It's never gone there. Like national news.

No. Not this many. But they were going over military bases. And now they're just going over New Jersey. Now they're

just going

over video up of the 1 that I got on my Instagram. So I took this 1 from I forget what the Instagram page is, but it's up on the page to give them a shout out. I don't know what this is. I don't know if this is fake. This is the 1 we were looking at earlier.

Yeah. I showed it these guys in the green room last night. We're all freaking out. Like, what okay. What is that?

The the way the goddamn thing moves. My favorite meme of yours.

So click on it so we can hear it.

Oh, the the the the the the the the the the the the

meme gets used for so many different things. Yeah. Listen to these guys talking when they're talking. There's no clouds. Shh.

Quiet. So you see this thing look

at it

on the camera. It's like a dome.

So what you're concentrating on is the 1 on the lower lower right.

What the fuck? Like, literally, look at that thing. In the sky right there.

So it's moving.

Are we watching a shoot a thousand or a shadow star falling?

No. That's not moving quick enough. There's no tail. That's a UFO.

There's no blue or red light. Something's coming off.

What the fuck?

So when it gets above, this is where it gets weird. Because it's slowly rising. It gets above that other thing, which might be the moon. I'm not sure what that other thing is. I think it's the moon.

So that other thing, it gets above it and then

Look how the light's going off in 2 sides

It starts taking off. And when it starts taking off, it does it with no sound at a fucking insane rate of speed. Like, look at that.

Taking off. No fucking way. What the fuck? It just went out to

space. What?

It just went out to space.

Oh my god.

What the He just

went out to space.

That's why.

Those guys are reacting like they're watching it.

Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know if that's real. It could be fake. It could be all AI generated. It's it's ambiguous and blurry enough though that I'm willing to entertain it.

Right.

If that's really what they saw, that's a bunch of different people seeing things like that over time. And this is like the Tic Tac story. This is the 1 that, Ryan Graves showed us that this lady photographed over Florida. Yeah. That these things and they've they've seen it on the this is 1 that was this was seen by multiple people from different planes that this thing moved and then shot off into space, and this lady got photos of it.

But whatever their that thing's doing, it's doing something that we can't do. That that speed that that thing takes off, that's faster than any rocket we have. That's faster than any fighter jet. That thing just shoots off into space at some impossible speed.

If so it's either us, the drones either well, why are they blinking if it's not us? Why do they have That 1 wasn't blinking. No. But I mean the drones. I'm saying the drones are blinking.

So I'm saying if if if the drones are ours, maybe they're they there's been, like, UFO, activity, and they're throwing these drones drones up to try to capture it

with better Or what better way to distract people from actual UFOs that you know are gonna be all over the sky than to put a bunch of drones up there too.

Right. That too.

Yeah. If you have a bunch of shit that seems like stuff that you've seen, like a drone, like flying around, and then there's stuff that is impossible with it. That's a good way to cover up the impossible stuff. Have a bunch of regular drones.

Yeah. But at this point, why would they do that? Everyone's already accepted the fact that, UFOs are out there.

Not really. If there was a big thing where all of a sudden the sky was filled with those football field sized fucking mother ships, like, people would lose their shit. But if you could slowly get people accustomed to it, the way people got accustomed to masks In the beginning, in 19 in 2019, if you saw someone with a mask on, you're like, what the fuck is going on? By 2021, why doesn't this guy have a mask on? Right?

Just in a couple of years, everybody was wearing a mask. Sure. We get accustomed to stuff. If you get accustomed to things being in the sky, and then all of a sudden there's nothing like, you could float anything in the sky. If you have weirder and weirder drones and then start showing spaceships, people would freak out way less.

Right. I don't know, dude. If someone tells me this is a drone, chill. And if someone shows me a football field sized spacecraft True. I'm gonna freak out.

That's a big leap. In a good way. What about 1 the size of a car? That's definitely not ours.

So you think moving like that? Them out by size?

If I was gonna do that, if I was gonna get people prepared for an imminent invasion, like, if I knew that there was UFOs on the way, if, like, we're working at the James Webb Telescope and we've we get a photo of a mother ship and it's heading towards us, it's gonna be here in 4 months, What would you do? Well, if I knew that they were going to be sending drones and probes into our atmosphere, and maybe they've already done that, to obscure that, I would put a bunch of our drones up there and have them hover over cities so so it doesn't freak people out because you know that that's coming.

I mean, being freaked out probably the least of our problems when they come, if they're coming.

Collapse of civil of civil society is really possible if aliens show up. Like, if they just instantaneously showed up, things could completely collapse if we knew that our leaders are just nothing compared to these new things that are visiting us from some other place and doing things that are impossible with our technology. We're helpless. We're lost. We're confused.

They could shut down nuclear power plants. They can shut down, the grid. They can shut down any weapon systems that we have. Instantaneously, power goes off. If that all those stories are true, the best way to keep people from absolutely freaking out is to slowly trickle it in on them and get them more and more accustomed to this, like, as a psyop.

How committed are you to this, theory?

Not very. Yeah. Not very. Yeah. I go all over the place.

Yeah. I think according to someone that I spoke to, and this is someone who has high level clearance and someone who worked for the government in this capacity, he said some of these are not. They're not human. They're not exhibiting whatever they are, they're they're exhibiting technology that is far beyond what we're capable of.

Right.

And then there's other ones like Ryan Graves said that are beyond state of the art, but you can kind of sort of get that they would be a drone, but how is it in the the air for 5 hours? How does it not have a heat signature? How does it how does it know when other drones are coming near it, when they're flying jets near it and they just shut the lights off and disappear? These things are just shutting off.

But, dude,

right, this isn't they're alien. Maybe they're alien drones.

It's possible.

And if you were an alien and you wanted to get people accustomed to this without freaking out, wouldn't you start sending drones that are similar to what we have but just many levels better? But similar enough, so you go, oh, I know what that is.

Or they could just, like, get on the TV and get, like, hey, dudes.

Ack. Ack.

We're chill. But they probably if

they could get here, they know how

to speak our language, and they just go, hey, dudes. We're chill.

They can morph.

We're coming here, or they just go, hey, guys. It's over. We're gonna use we're gonna like, you guys have seen The Matrix? We're about to use you

for some

sort of fuel. Yeah. Whatever they're gonna do.

Or maybe they're not gonna be mean to us at all. That's possible too.

If they're that intelligent, they're not mean they're not mean. People who need like us? Yeah.

Yeah. We're not. Hilarious.

Or maybe or maybe the prison planet thing I said in the beginning of the show, this is how it happens.

Well, you ever heard Bob Lazar talk about 1 of the most disturbing things that he found?

What? No.

1 of the most disturbing things when he was doing the back engineering program on this supposed crashed alien spaceship or or recovered alien spaceship was that they had a thick binder that was about religion. And the the thing we'll have him play it.

We'll have him play it

because it's 1 of those ones we've played a few times. But it's the Bob Lazar story is the craziest.

Because if

he's telling the truth and it seems like he's definitely telling the truth about a lot. He definitely worked at Los Alamos Labs. He was on the employee roster. He has a detailed understanding of the building. He knew all the security people when they took him there, when George Knapp took him on a tour through there.

He definitely worked there, and he definitely was a proposals expert. And he says they hired him to go and try to figure out this fucking thing. Here, listen to this.

The hardcore thing is that there is a extremely classified document dealing with religion, and it's about that thing. Period. But why would there be any classified material dealing with religion? I wanna go back to the religion thing. I want you to say it.

It's just it's so it's so far out. It's it's, it's Alright. Your objection has been noted. Okay. What does it say?

That we're containers. That's how that's how supposedly the aliens look at us, that we are nothing but containers. Containers of? Containers. Maybe containers of so you can come up with whatever theory you want, but we're containers, and that's how we're mentioned in the documents.

That religion was specifically created, so we have some rules and regulations for the sole purpose of not damaging the container.

That's, too for

that's too freaked out.

By the way. Shout out to George now.

I mean, too freaked out.

It's but it's it's Right.

But but it's what you were talking about.

The prison planet theory doesn't seem so crazy if that the advanced alien race is eating our negative emotions. Just don't be negative, and you'll be safe, dude. Just be happy. That's what they've been trying to tell you. Bob Marley, everybody's been trying to tell you this.

What is this, Jamie?

What are you showing

me here?

I believe that video you posted is from April. From what

April 12, 2024 at Mountain Standard Time in Eastern Arizona on the off the Black River in the White Mountains, the Fort Apache Indian Reservation. And, oh, by the way, my friend, Cam Haines, he hunts at, 1 of the Apache reservations. He says they see them there all the time. Wow. He said they see crazy shit in the sky all the time.

These guys are hunting out there in, you know, this enormous reservation. Like like, unbelievable pristine forest land. He say they see crazy shit, and they just accept it that it's true. Right. I believe that.

Most of the guys working there have seen something.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that

That's also where Travis Walton, this guy, that was in Arizona too, wasn't it, Jamie?

You I'll say this version of the video, you can almost make out the moon. I don't know if this is better because it's been reposted less. But Mhmm.

It does look better. It definitely looks better. So this is the same thing.

Are you freaked out by this?

A 100%.

Yeah. Yeah. But not enough that it's gonna fuck up my day.

Yeah.

Right? Because it it freaks me out, but it's not freaking me out like I can't sleep.

Right. Yeah.

It's freaking me out. Like, like, Ukraine freaks me out where I can't sleep.

Yeah.

You know, like, that stuff freaks me out. The looking for a nuke in the East Coast, that freaks me out where it'll fuck with my sleep. If I think about that before I go to bed, the 1 thing that I genuinely here it here it takes off. Let's take a look at it while it's taking off. Wow.

And this is the thing. It's like there's no sound. Look at look how fast it's going. Yeah. Like, what could go that fast?

What the fuck can go that fast?

That's crazy.

That is insane. That has to be I don't wanna guess how many thousands of miles an hour that thing is going. But if you were a person inside, you're gee lo.

Yeah. If

you're going that fast

Paul Virzi's dad and mom saw it, and it was not only the dad, mom. It was, like, an aunt. They they were all there. And I asked his mom. She's like a religious person, and she said, yeah.

I mean and they said it was low, had lights on it, the father. And the father is, you know, Bronx County guy. And he say he doesn't believe in that stuff, and it was low, like, above the tree line. He made it out. It was a saucer.

He and then he said it shot up and turned into a dot in the sky.

And this was in the eighties

or something. Guys ever hear the Betty and Barney Hill story? No. Betty and Barney Hill were a couple in I think it was 19 fifties.

Oh, yes. I know this.

Where they were the first abduction story.

Yeah.

And they did hypnotic regression, and they both had the same story that they were taking. They saw something in the sky. They pulled over their car, and then they woke up, and they don't know what the fuck happened. Wow. But they were haunted by this, and they have the hypnotic regression.

They tell this crazy story about being taken aboard this craft. It's very similar to Travis Walton's story. It's very similar to a bunch of stories of of abduction.

And what is this like, they get tested on, like or they just don't remember anything?

You know, it's hard to say when you're dealing with hypnotic reduct because the thing about these when they're you're recalling things through hypnosis is, like, people are very susceptible to someone imparting a memory into them. So you'd have to know, like, what was the process like in which you interview these people. But John Mack, who is a a psychologist from Harvard, wrote a book called Abduction that I read in the 19 nineties that detailed all the different people that he worked on that he was, you know, having these hypnotic regression sessions with these people. And they were all telling these similar stories about being abducted, and that he believed that there was a few people in on earth where they would revisit. They would find just like we do with animals where we put collars on them.

Right? When we they catch a, like, a mountain lion. They'll put a collar on that mountain lion so they can understand where the mountain lion's going, where's terrain is, how they do it with wolves. When they relocate them, they put collars on them so they know where they are all the time. And, it makes sense that they would probably want to understand us, so they would pick certain ones.

And if they had a way to silence your memories and, you know, completely put you in some sort of a state where they could manipulate you and take you to some place and do examinations on you and then put you back with no memory of it other than these, like, weird nightmares. That makes sense.

Well, it shows that they're compassionate if they put you back.

I guess Yeah. Or that, you know, this is how they study you. They wanna know. I mean, there's no stories of them stealing people. Right?

They just they always bring you back.

Yeah.

Yeah. But, like, what are the if that's real, like, what what's the purpose of it? Like, what are they doing? I would I would imagine they're studying us the same like, if we could study chimps and the chimps had no idea we studied them, like, we would do that. Instead, we dart them.

We dart them and then they wake up, like, what the fuck?

Right.

You

know, but that's that's how we do it. And Right. They would probably do it in a real similar way, just more sophisticated.

How about that other adduction story about the those guys? They were, like, those rural guys in the seventies or something?

Travis Walton.

Yeah. Oh, that was That's

the Arizona story, the lager.

Yeah. Those guys, I believe him.

That story is crazy because the other guys in the truck, 1 of the guys hated him. He got in a fist fight with that guy the day of the abduction. He still told the same story that everybody told. He walked up to this craft. They saw it flying through the air.

Wasn't that in Arizona too? Was it Travis Walton

case in Arizona? Yeah.

I believe it was. Arizona's a hot spot for it. I mean, that's the Phoenix lights.

You know? That's the Phoenix lights was crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy.

And a

lot of people saw that.

Thousands of people saw it, including the fucking governor.

Yeah. Yeah. It's So then why is this 1 catching on in the news? Because this

is more. It's this is more prevalent, and it's lasting for days days days.

Got

it. And I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

Just wanna be there for the inauguration? Probably.

Well, they're really early. Early. They're they're, like, fucking tailgating.

They're, yeah, they're tailgating. We're gonna be tailgating the inauguration.

We're gonna be there.

We're gonna be there.

We're gonna be close. Like, July, January 18th, we're doing a show in Washington, DC at the Lincoln Theater, our history and his live show, and we and we're like Geiger counter. What we said, we were like, why 20 2 days before the inauguration, we're like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah.

We're doing a live the first live history January 18th. January 18th.

Washington DC.

In DC, it'll be fine.

We do it.

I mean, but

we were like, oh,

0, who knows? We're doing it

in June. January 21st. That 1

wouldn't count on being there. We're doing it at 5 o'clock in the afternoon. I I like doing earlier shows now. You ever do that? You ever do, like, a 5 PM?

No. That's what I we think that's where the world's going with, like don't think people wanna be out till midnight, 1 AM anymore. What do you think? You think that's stupid? You think earlier shows work?

Would you experiment with them?

Yeah. I mean, sure. I mean, Bert Kreischer has always done, like, afternoon shows, like, take the day off work show.

He's done all those.

Yeah. Bert's been doing those for years.

Oh, and then the concert

shows yeah. I mean, Doug Stanhope does those day drinking shows. He actually filmed 1 at the mothership.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Some day drinking shows. Yeah. I mean, why not? I mean, the club is there all day long. Why not have shows during the day if you want to?

If you want, if you can sell them at if you

Especially, it's dark out. If it's the club's dark as shit. It does Yeah. It's dark when it's noon, you know. Yeah.

It's like you could totally have the same experience at noon that you could at night. But it seems like at nighttime, people are off work, you get a couple of cocktails, you know, get a little loose, sit in the dark, have a good time.

But on a Saturday, sometimes I feel like people just sit around all day and wait for show. If you can put it at 5 o'clock, why not?

Look. That's why they like to go to football games. Right?

Right.

Go on during the afternoon. Yeah. I mean, you certainly could. You certainly could have day shows. Yeah.

Especially if you have a big name. You know, someone they're willing to do something during

the like,

most of the people like to go out at night. Know, like to go to dinner, get a couple drinks, go to a show. That's a nighttime thing. Yeah. But that's just a cut they're just accustomed to it, especially if it's Saturday or Sunday.

Yeah. You totally could get away with it.

I'm just a morning baby. I like to wake up early, and then I like Time to get up. I'm a 6 AM little baby boy that wakes up.

Before you look at your phone?

What what I used to boy look at it right away, but now I give myself 15 minutes. 15 solid minutes? I get 15 minutes, and I get my feet on the floor, and I just

try to piss?

Well, I

You don't piss without your phone. Stop lying.

Let me think about that. Up in

the middle of the night to piss? Do you grab your phone?

That I don't do because I'm in a slumber, so I'm I'm kind of just it's kind of like in a I'm in a in a slumber state of piss. But you're right. When I do get up when I do get actually, I never really have to piss in in the morning when I wake up because I do piss in the middle of the night. But that is a good point. I typically if I have to piss, I do take my phone.

That's a good point. But for mostly, if I don't have to piss, I will go 15 minutes. I try to do it. And I just try to breathe and get friendly with the present.

Yeah. Get friendly with the present.

You gotta do it, baby.

Do you do any meditation or mindfulness? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So good.

Every day? Yeah.

Well, I I do a lot of different things that also act like that. Like my time in the sauna, I think that's very meditative. You know, especially when I'm just concentrating on breathing and getting through the last 10, 15 minutes. Cold plunge, I think that's a very meditative state too because you're also you have to be in control of your emotions and your anxiety because you wanna get the fuck out of there, and you have to just stare at the clock, you know, and make sure you do your time. But also other things that I do.

Yeah. When do you stay on the cold plunge?

3 minutes. 3

minute. Not bad. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.

I'm I can, I've never tried I can't even do a cold shower.

Dude, I can't believe we're doing maybe the last podcast on Earth after an alien invasion is coming.

I don't think these aliens are gonna stop podcasting. I think they like podcasts.

They like it. Right? Yeah. They're gonna love yours for sure.

You're gonna have to get drunk. Yeah. Yes.

I'm on their side. Yeah. Come come visit me. Yeah. I'm shocked they haven't visited me yet.

I'm upset.

Yeah. They're gonna come. You wouldn't be freaked out. Right?

I'd definitely be freaked out.

Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, how do you not be freaked out when you're confronted with the thing that everybody's wondered forever? Are we alone? Yeah.

And then

if you know you're definitely not alone, no matter who you are and what you say, I don't care if you're the baddest motherfucker on the planet. You run into an alien, you're gonna freak out.

But why is that not comforting? Like, I'm a kid who doesn't like loneliness, and it's be nice to know that there's other things out there.

What if they're completely indifferent to us?

What if they're completely eliminating emotion?

Yeah. But what's their tune in, like

Calculated like a computer.

We have those here. Yeah.

But they're not telling you what you can and can't do with your life. They're not shutting down your power grid. They're not, like, coming over to rule over humanity. That's the worry.

I mean, what's the worst they could do?

Rule over us the way we loo rule over countries.

But maybe they do a better job.

Maybe.

Yeah. I mean, what's the worst they could do, really? Look at you.

Yeah. What's the worst chat GPT say about this?

Uh-huh. I mean, we we we asked chat GPT the other day

What did they say?

Tic Tac was a a UFO. We kept, like, beating it down, asking more and more questions. Like, it's exhibiting something. What are the possibilities? If it is extraterrestrial, where would it come from?

It gave us, like, a list of, like, star systems that are close by and, like

Wow. Yeah.

You get you get you keep get pestering I kept going with it.

I asked it to make a an artistic rendition of what it thought it would look like.

What the Tic Tac look like? Yo.

At first, I made it huge, and I was like, that's a little too big, isn't it?

Maybe, but not big as those mothership ones.

That's it.

I don't know what it is, but it's fun. I I like all this. I like all this chaos. Yeah.

I think

it's fun. I enjoy it when things get real sideways for some strange reason.

They were also probably been coming forever. Just now everyone's got phones, and now they're just capture capturing it.

In the Bible. I think the Yeah. Ezekiel story in the Bible is an an alien visitation.

Yeah. So what exactly they're saying? They talk about these lights.

Toss about a wheel within a wheel, like, the the the way that Ezekiel describes this vision that he sees, like, something that had, like, multiple different animal heads on it and different, like, the the it just describes it as a wheel within a wheel. The way it's describing, like, you would imagine, like, if you saw something beyond your fucking wildest imagination and then you tried, you know, years later to write this down or not even write it down. Right? Because it was told as an oral tradition for a long time before it was ever written. Who knows what the actual event was that he he described, but there's a lot of ancient religious texts including the Vimanas from the Bhagavad Gita, all these different stories of things flying in the air that exhibit extraordinary flight characteristics that move the way we describe UFOs.

So that's a good point then. Just because we have the capability to film this and know about it now Right. Doesn't mean that they're gonna expose themselves because they've been doing this for 1000 years.

If you read, Jacques Vallee's books on it, Jacques Vallee is the guy. He's a a scientist that they, they he was the the reason why they had that French guy in Close Encounters, The 3rd Count. You ever see that? Close Encounters, Steven Spielberg?

Long time ago.

Great fucking movie. But there was this French, scientist they bring in to try to help people get through this. It's based on Jacques Vallee. And there's Jacques he's a podcast guest, very cagey. Didn't answer a lot of questions.

Okay.

Probed him a lot. But his books are fascinating. And 1 of the things about his books I've read the first 1. I'm into the second 1 right now. In the in the first 1, he goes into detail about through the 1700, 1800, all these different sightings, all these different experiences that people documented in news stories and different and they're all super similar, man.

Similar enough that different versions of it, you could kind of attribute it to different people lacking the words to adequately explain some super paranormal bizarre experience, but real similar. I think they've probably always been here. If they're real, if we are visited by something that's either interdimensional or from another another planet, they've probably been doing this for a long fucking time, monitoring us the same way we monitor animals on this planet.

And they'll never maybe never say who they really are.

Well, maybe they're getting ready to because we're about to unleash these fucking quantum computers and AI, and maybe that is the thing that they're here to make sure goes smoothly.

Right.

Because if you had to imagine 1 thing that would completely change the capability of this race of savage, barbarian, territorial apes with thermonuclear weapons, which is what we are. You would do, like, right when they're about to achieve godlike powers. Like, let's let's, like, hover.

Wow. Right? That makes sense. It really does make sense when you put it into that context, which is actually reality that we are about we are on the precipice of something that is so unimaginable.

Bigger than the split of the atom. Yeah. Bigger than anything. Like, literally something You're

blowing my mind right

now.

Yeah. I mean, we really when you think so I

mean, what is gonna go up?

Yeah. I mean well, no. I don't no. My anxiety is about stupid stuff, which is

weird. Yeah.

What so yeah. This stuff just doesn't bother me, but I get bothered by stupid stuff. What is wrong

with this?

Stuff is not genuinely affecting you right now. If it was if it was inescapable

Yeah.

If it was, like, hovering over this building right now, we wouldn't be able to have a podcast. We'd all be outside. Yeah. We'd we'd be going, what the fuck, man? There's some silent thing that's 3 miles long that's blocking out the sky, and it's hovering, you know, 300 yards above us.

We would be all be freaking the fuck out.

Right. So what my question is, like, Elon Musk probably has, like, what, IQ of, like, 140 or something?

Or

Probably at least.

So what is chat gbt's, like, IQ, like, considered now?

Well, once chat g p t once they achieve and they think they're gonna be able to do this in 2025, when it it achieves artificial general intelligence, I think what it will be is as smart as every human being that's on earth combined. Mhmm.

See if

that's right.

See if

that's correct.

What does that mean, artificial general intelligence?

The thing is this is like, whatever it is, it's baby steps. So whatever that is, with this insane leap from us to that is baby steps in comparison to what it's going to be.

Right.

It's not gonna stop there. And if you have if you have sentient artificial intelligence and unlimited computing power connected to nuclear power plants like they're gonna do, and then it develops a better version of itself and better versions of power and bet better versions of its programming and all the other things that go along with it and its capabilities. And if if chat gpt is trying to lie and copy itself, what is that thing gonna do?

So

and they also don't know how it works. Right? Like, I watched that 60 minutes interview with that sort of godfather of AI or whatever they consider him, like, the guy who first created the biggest component of it. And he says, we don't the layers thing, and then he was like They don't

know how it works.

They don't know how it learns. They don't know how it works.

They don't. No.

That that blows my mind. It should.

Yeah. It should. And that that's why the aliens are hovering.

So is Elon concerned? Is Elon, like, really concerned about AI?

I don't know. He keeps

it under his hat. Yeah. He doesn't I think he's got contracts with NASA, you know, and he's, the defense department. He's running SpaceX. I don't think he can talk wild about aliens.

Yeah. You got that kinda it's like a lot on the line. Right.

That's what we were saying in the gym because

he doesn't believe in

my son on your show then. Like, I'm not sure if they yeah.

He's a they're real, they're very subtle. Yeah.

I don't know. Yeah. Because people were like, oh, how come he's not commenting on the drones? He comments on everything. It's true.

But and so, like, what does that tell you?

It tells me something's going on.

Yeah.

That's what I because I would be commenting on it. If I had nothing to do with it and I was a super genius who comments on everything, I would for sure comment on all these fucking drones.

Well, there's a lot of them. My wife saw 1. She videoed it. It was a drone. There's a lot of

But it could have been a man made it could have been, like, somebody could have been there.

Kid because a lot of people are probably putting them up in

the sky too. They're all flying around Austin. I see them. Yeah. And they're normal drones.

I see them.

I've seen

them the other night. Yeah. Yeah. Boys, let's wrap this up. Yeah.

Alright. History Hyenas is back. I was very happy.

We're very happy.

Very happy.

We're demonetized on YouTube, so we we're trying to get re monetized.

But What happened? What'd you say?

We didn't do it.

Who knows? It's, again, it's a I don't know. This is why does this happen to me? I remember the last time yeah. And the last time, they did it to my channel, and then you spoke about it, and then they re monetized.

They they suspended me last time. We don't know because we was before we even asked.

The problem is if you get a bunch of haters who flag your videos Yeah. And complain about them, I think sometimes that can do it.

Yeah. It says harmful content. We didn't even put an episode.

It's just cocksuckers who, like, just mass report you or they don't like you. I mean, there's there's a lot of ways to weapon ize that whole reporting system.

We're trying, but that's 1 You

know, you gotta realize, like, YouTube is managing some fucking insane number of videos that are getting uploaded every minute. Right. And they probably have to have all these systems in place to handle this stuff, and I bet you can game that system. And then there's also a bunch of people that work for them that are woke dipshits. Right.

And I think they can flag things, and they get out of line sometimes.

We tried. We tried to get it reinstated. They said we have to, you know, February is our next chance.

Please.

Come on. Please, Brent. It's just a history podcast for 2 funny guys. Let it go. But that's

why in effort, we podcast for 2 funny guys. Let

it go. But that's why in effort, we are playing by the rules with YouTube, and we have really clean, cute content on YouTube. But if you wanna get fucking wild with us,

go to patreon.com/historyhyenas. That's where we're going off atpatreon.com/historyhynas. Yeah.

It's true. I like it.

We are going off. Gentlemen, appreciate you very much. You guys are awesome.

Thanks. So

happy you're together again. Beautiful. Thanks,

Joe. Alright.

Bye. Everybody.