Transcript of Ep.43 - Exploring Haunted Spaces and Energy Clearing with Psychic Medium Joseph D'Airo

Welcome to the Drop the Needle podcast, your backstage past to the Mystical realm. I'm your host, Jim Allstott, and here, gifted souls, step up to the mic sharing their spiritual journey. We're heading the high notes and the low notes of their awakening, creating a symphony of enlightenment. This isn't just another interview show. This is where divine insights are channeled and universal truths are revealed. So crank up your stereo and sit back Because who knows, this just might help you compose the next transformative chapter of your soul's purpose. Are you ready? Let's go. Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Drop the Needle podcast. I'm your host, Jim Allstott, and I'm so happy you all decided to join us. We have a special treat in store for everyone. We have Joseph Dyro joining us again on the show today. If you remember from episode 39, Joseph is a psychic medium from Long Island, New York. The amazing Ms. Pat Longo was Joseph Joseph's mentor, teacher, and coach. God bless Pat Longo. Pat Longo, also, if you remember, has mentored and taught some of the world's most recognizable psychics. We're in some pretty elite company here on the Drop the Needle podcast with Joseph here with us today.

In the last episode, Joseph quietly mentioned that he clears homes and sometimes businesses of unwanted afterlife visitors. Others. Everyone, please join me in welcoming Joseph Dyro. Welcome, Joseph.

Hello, Jim. How are you?

I'm doing very well. Boy, it seems like it's been quite a while since we've seen each other.

Yeah, maybe. A little bit.

Yeah, it has been. It has been. Life been treating you well?

Life's been great. Overall, yes.

Excellent. Excellent. I'm happy to hear that. As I mentioned in the intro, we get to talk about house clearing, business clearing, Joseph's clearing experiences. This is going to be really awesome. I was going to do some hokey who you're going to call.

Well, you could do that with me because I'm obviously a big fan of that.

Yes. Let's talk about the the whole clearing of the residents or businesses. Okay, I know this is going to sound funny, but how does it even start?

Most of the calls I get are people who feel like... Because either something's off in their spaces, maybe they just feel like it needs a clearing, they feel maybe there's negativity there. It's not every situation. Because it's not always spirit. Sometimes energy gets cluttered and it needs somebody to tell it what to do. There are the other instances where it is spirit, and it could be anything where they're causing a little problem, causing trouble, making people anxious, making the lights flicker, making noises. Because I've had people describe that to me, too, and I walk in, I'm like, Oh, yeah, there's a lot of people here doing stuff.

Holy cow. You said energy getting cluttered. What do you mean when you When you say energy getting cluttered?

And let's see, trying to simplify it, it's just because there's spirit, but then let's just say there's just energy floating around. And sometimes- Residual. Residual energy. We create energy, we give off energy, We exchange energy. Sometimes our emotions, our moods leave stuff behind. And just like dust in the corner, eventually collects where enough for you to notice it.

You can't sweep it under the rug anymore.

No, you can't. Sometimes the energy of the space is it needs either a clearing or I also do the blessing when I do this just to charge things up. It just needs someone to... Because energy wants to be told what to do, where to go and what to do. If you tell it to leave, it will go and do that. But while I'm doing it, I'm also talking to spirit, whoever's around. Let's see, if it's not the spirit, I necessarily tried to sweep out the door, it's often the relatives of the residents of who I end up speaking to. Or it could be spirit that just is hanging around from a previous lifetime, previous owners, just people associated with the property. Especially where I live on Long Island, there's a lot of history. A lot of places, a lot of locations that have people who've been living there for a couple of hundred years, if not going back to the natives. Sometimes it can get quite interesting.

I bet when you're starting to mix, if it were natives and then the other people that would come in after that, crowded would probably be the best way to How do you describe that. So with this, I'm curious to know that, I guess it's like a car, right? Or when you go to the doctor, you could be really sick. And then when you get to the doctor, you go, Oh, wow, this is weird. I'm feeling better. Has that ever happened to you when you go in there where they said, Well, just before you got here, this was going on, and now everything's quiet?

It has happened. I've also had situations where clients tell me stuff was going on up until the moment I arrived, and then everyone went quiet. It's just like, really, they all knew the teachers coming into the room and. Scatter. Cheese it.

Yeah, right.

I mean, those are usually, I'll say, entities or spirits that know they're causing a problem. How this works is... Because whenever I enter the space, I have a chat with the owner, whoever's let me in. Usually then when I start doing my thing, I have a chat with spirit. Just like, I'm here on behalf of the owner. They're giving me permission to do so. Because I necessarily can't just walk into someone's space and clear up the energy. I have that verbal mental permission to do something. That's usually... Then I just go about what I'm supposed to do.

Okay, so let's talk about that. When you walk through the door, you get the go ahead from the owner, then what?

Then I start actually chatting More often than that. I just start chatting with spirit. I usually do a little setup. It depends on the household. If they let me, because I usually bring out a few candles, I usually make a crystal grid. It's not always necessary. It's based on how I feel like I usually have a bag with me, and it's just like, take out all the goodies. Anything I feel like it's going to be beneficial because the crystals I bring, I usually charge them up. I do a meditation of who am I bringing today. It's just setting up the intention that we're going to do something energetically here.

Okay. Then once you start the ceremony, is it called a ceremony or is it just- We We could call it a ceremony or like a ritual. Okay. Once you start that, do they ever get pissed off?

Oh, yes.

Okay. What happens?

But it will see Some of the stuff or some, let's just say, relatives of the family or hangout, they get interested in why am I here, what am I doing, and can I get rid of them? Usually, but that's why I'm having a conversation is like, Well, if you're family, no, I'm not getting rid of you. If you belong here, then fine. But if you don't belong here, you got to go and easily to filter out who belongs and who doesn't based on how I'm talking to everybody. Because spirit has to be truthful. It's, think of it like a They can't lie. They can try to deceive, but they can't lie.

Okay. Are the homeowners or business owners there with you when you're doing this, or do they vacate?

Usually, no. Most of the time, they let me leave me be. Occasionally, I'll say, I tell them, You can go do whatever you need to do. I'm going to be walking around. But I've already explained to them, I'm going to be in every space, in every nook and cranny of the house, the building, wherever I'm at, I'm going to open closets. I'm going to open closets, I might open drawers. I've been there for a second. I'm not lingering in somebody's closet unless they have a really big closet. I've been in houses where they have really big closets, and so I had to spend a little time in there by the time I got around and walked through the spaces. But on most of them, pretty much everybody leaves me alone to do my thing.

Cool. Which makes sense because then you can just get down to business rather than... I would be, Okay, so what is that doing? And what is that doing? I could just say, You would not want me anywhere near what's going on because I'd be like, What is that supposed to do? Let's talk about some happenings then, some stories about that that you can share with us.

A lot of stories I mean, I have a few on the island, but a lot of them I've done this work in New Jersey and Manhattan and I think in Brooklyn and Queens. I don't think I've done. I don't think I've specifically been in the Bronx yet with this. But the city locations tend to be very interesting because the city, it's a lot of people coming through, a lot of people coming in from all different places, bringing things with them, bringing energies with them, bringing their relatives, bringing even even from hundreds of years ago, because it's just the location of where we happen to be. I did a house, and that was in Queens. I remember there was a spirit there that did not want to leave. I want to say, if I cornered them in one of the bedrooms and they started throwing stuff at me.

Oh, really?

Because the homeowner came in and it was like they heard it and Something flew across the room as they entered the room. Of course, once they were there, nothing happened, but they saw the thing fly across the room towards me because I'm just like, this spirit wasn't... They weren't family, so they didn't belong there, but they didn't want to leave. But there's a way to do it where they have to.

Okay. I won't have you give away your secrets. With all those people coming in, I know that I have heard or seen through different programs that sometimes, like antiques, are supposed to be something that you should be very careful about bringing into your home. Is that true, too? I mean, is that where some of these things might come from when people are coming, they're not their relatives or family members?

In my opinion, yes. That is something that needs be taken care of before you bring it into your house, if not shortly after you bring it into your house. Even if it's a family members item, because first of all, it doesn't have your energy. It's bringing in someone else's energy. If someone else's older, you're bringing in basically their personality into your space. Every other person who has ever been the owner of this thing, and let's just say if it's an Antigo, it might potentially have a lot of owners and a a lot of lifetimes and a lot of events that have happened around it. And solid objects record and absorb everything around them. From my understanding. If you hold an antique, it's like there's stories that could tell. Sometimes objects could be, I'll use the word haunted, some of them are. Again, we just need to... There's just a procedure to do to get the spirit to move on, go somewhere else. My thing is, because I learned from Pat longer that you send them into the light. If they don't want to go, you ask for assistance. There's a couple of other things to do, but it's to help the spirit along if it's confused a used or sometimes even walking through a house, sometimes some spirits are not aware that they've passed.

They're really not aware. And time doesn't matter on their other end of it. So what could be 60 years for us could be a day for them, so they're not aware of it, and they just need to have the explanation and again, assistance and guide them into the light, which is what I end up doing a lot.

Okay. So let's use the example of something being thrown at you. Do you ever get freaked out by that stuff?

Not so much anymore, honestly. I mean, I used to get freaked out. When I was younger doing this, I'm like, Yeah, that's new. I don't like... It wasn't At that time, I was describing it wasn't big stuff, but we were in a bedroom. I think they threw... I think one was a book, another was just a tiny, a small box that was on, I think that was on the dresser. Stuff like that. It's like, okay, if it hits me, it's like it's not going to do very much.

Yeah, but still, I don't care if it was a wadded up piece of paper that nobody else was in the room all of a sudden got pitched at you. That That might do something to me. It might freak me out more than a little bit.

Yeah.

That would be something. So let's hear some other stories that you have.

Let's see. Another one was a place in Manhattan. Now, that place, we'll see, this particular was an apartment building, but that place was haunted. When I say haunted, there was a lot of spirits from... I remember my impression was like the 1800s. It wasn't a big building, but when I say apartment building, I don't mean like a 12-story thing. I mean like a three-story building. But I think there was 10 units in this place, and every spot had spirits in it who didn't need to be here anymore. But what happens when... Let's see, initially, these things are not always a bad thing necessarily, but what happens is when people who are alive, they collectively all start believing a location is haunted and it perpetuates the energy to act on that. So it's not necessarily the spirit's involved, but now it's the collective manifestation of everyone's thoughts towards something that makes it more of what they're thinking about. Because when I walked in, I remember, I'm like, They don't feel that bad, and I'm not getting that vibe. I think it's the other energy involved because everyone now thinks it's haunt it, so now everyone believes it's a bad thing, and it builds upon itself over time.

You get enough stories and everyone just associates that's what it is, and that's what it becomes.

I could see that they maybe feel like they have to live up to the billing a little bit on that. It's funny, as you started to describe that, I was going to ask you if the spirit energies picked up the people, the living energy there, too, so it amplifies and gets them worked up. That's what you're saying, right? It could potentially do that.

Potentially do that. Sometimes just the living collectively believing that it's a haunted location and it's a bad hunting thing. The spirits may necessarily not be doing anything, but then I'll say that the extra residual energy can do something. To perpetuate that belief. It's not actually spirit doing it, but it's the energy beyond that. Because we manifest, everyone who's alive can manifest a lot of things into existence.

Right. Is there a difference then between a haunted or haunting versus some of the other things that you were talking about with the energy clutter, and things of that nature?

On things are more about that spirit or people who once were here, once living here, who are no longer. They've transitioned, but they never went to heaven. For whatever reason, they've attached themselves to the Earth plane, and they don't understand what's going on, or they don't want to leave, or there's something that's keeping them here, and so they just never left. But some of them are just completely confused confused. From that confusion, there's some anger, and there's some people who just... Some spirits who just really choose to be angry. Whether they didn't get to do everything they want to do, they were ready to transition, and they feel cheated out of feel cheated or just hold some resentment or some... I've encountered a few bad people. I've been doing this for over 15 years, so I've been doing a lot.

Holy cow.

Especially since I'm in the vicinity of the city. I think New York City, Manhattan is a little over an hour on the train. I've had many clients there. I guess I have a lot of experience with this. But sometimes I say it can get scary because I remember another place in the city I walked into, and I didn't know exactly what I was walking into. The owner just told me that they wanted to sell the place and they really needed it cleaned out and blessed. I remember walking into that and everywhere were shadows. It's like, where shadows don't belong, or it didn't make sense. The realtor was with me, too. This woman also, she was uneasy, but she stayed behind me, which was fun. I feel like it's like the Scooby-Doo murder mysteries, where she's just trailing behind me watching what I'm doing. That was one of the few times someone- Yeah, you slinking along. One of the few times someone was behind me, but all I was doing was chit-chatting with spirit before I really got started. But I remember everywhere I could see, there's shadows everywhere. There's a lot of people here, but they're not happy.

If they're not happy, maybe they're a little afraid and they'll try to stop you if you're doing something because they don't know what you're doing. What we consider like hauntings is often sometimes spirits just interacting with us, or they're just doing their own thing. We just happen to be in the way.

Okay. Have you ever had to go back?

I have never had to go back to any location. I've told people, Hey, if you feel like something's not right, I'll come right back at the earliest possibility. If I have to come back, that's not an additional charge because I'm like, No, I'm here to complete the job. I guess in that sense, everything turns out good.

Well, that's good, right?

I don't think I've ever... I mean, unless they never told me, I've never had callbacks.

I think that'd be something someone would share with you pretty quickly.

Yes, I feel. I I feel that, too. I mean, some things took longer than I would expect. I'm remembering it was a house in Connecticut, and that happened to be... It was a big old house. It was one of those, I think it was in Greenwich. Because Greenwich is a lot of three-story, really old location. There was part of a family who was still residing there, and they really had no idea that they transitioned, but they didn't want to leave either. That took a lot of effort because the entire time, they're talking to me and I'm like, No, you got to move on. They had no idea what I was talking about. There was some pushback. Sometimes, every so I have a situation where I'm like, Maybe I should have brought Pat with me on this one because it would have been nice to have some backup with, I'll see, the healing process. But usually when I do this, I call in my angels to back me up on all these things. I'll say sometimes, which is I find this also hilarious because I always wonder what it looks like to my clients because all they see me doing is walking around.

I'm not talking out loud. I'm talking to spirit in my mind. They don't know the conversation They don't know what I'm getting from all this unless I start talking out loud. Because I'm always like, to anybody, I'm just walking around staring at stuff and I'm like, Oh, no, I'm having a conversation as I'm looking around.

That would be interesting, too, because if you're the bystander or the homeowner and you're watching that and you're just like, Well, what's he doing? He's just standing there being contemplative or something as a Well, let's get to work.

And you're doing that. That's pretty interesting. I remember with the... I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, room that had a lot of activity, and the owner didn't tell me, but they told me I walked right into the room and said, This is where they spend a lot of time, because it felt like it to me. It just felt like everybody's in this room. It wasn't the bedroom. It was on the second floor. I'm trying to remember what the room was. I think it was just a sitting room. But they thought it was hilarious. They didn't tell me. They said, You walked right up and said, Everybody's in this room. They said, That's where they felt most of the whatever was going on was happening in that room. Even though the whole property was hauled. It was just specifically mostly in that sitting room on the second floor.

Must have been a gathering place for the family then or something.

Perhaps something like that. They had a couple of kids. The kids didn't really give me the problem. It was the one parent, and there was another, I'm trying to remember, another gentleman who was with them, but they were all family. It was my impression. But they really thought me mentally on this. We're not going anywhere. I'm like, No, You have to. It's like your past, you don't belong here anymore. The whole everything I got to do to get them to move on.

Well, I would think that was their home in their last living memory. It would seem like somebody may be lying to them or trying to trick them and say, No, this isn't your dad. No, I'm not. No, you're really dead. No, don't believe it. No, I'm not listening.

Their attitudes change a lot when they start seeing the light or I ask for that to come in at some point and they're like, What is that? It's just like, it's everything. It's like, You really want to go there. Sometimes that takes a bit of effort because sometimes if it's a quick, I say a quick clearing, maybe I'm there, depending on the size of the place. Maybe I'm there for an hour to two hours. I think like that. A couple of these. I've been there all afternoon trying to get these spirits out the door.

So this is definitely something that you have to do in person?

Yes.

Okay.

I personally wouldn't do it remotely. I think I need to be present in the space.

I think it would help, but I've heard of some folks trying to do that, and then they put the onus on the homeowner to do the ritual, which doesn't quite seem right or safe necessarily, because you don't know what energies you're dealing with or it's stuck to you.

I wouldn't do that to a homeowner or the owner of a business. It's like, yes, they're not as familiar of all this as as, let's just say, as I would be. Also, like you said, they may not even trust what they're doing. If you're not trusting what you're doing, it's not going to work.

Oh, absolutely not. Oh, did I forget something? I got to start over.

That would be It might be intimidated to try to do something like this without a professional with you.

I can't imagine. I'm hesitant to do the old smudging. I can't imagine. Anything else besides that. Now, have you ever had any of those spirits or energies come back with you, come back home?

No, but they've tried.

Really?

Some of them tried, I think, for the most part, I successfully get them to go to the other side or go away or get them to go somewhere else, say as best I can. But I've had spirit follow me home. Let's see, I see. If you were in my family, you would find this funny because they've experienced it, where I have this rule where they can't enter my space unless I say so. I've watched them follow me home, and when they get to my space, they hit a wall and can't proceed any further, which on some level, I find hilarious because some of them literally hit it a visible wall, they can't come in. I remember, because it's also a rule I have with the spirits who are waiting for their people to come when I'm doing reading. I remember my father came to my door one day and he just said, There's a line of spirit waiting to come in. I said, Yeah, they can't come in until their person is here because what do I need a crowded room for?

It's going to get too loud in here. I don't even hear myself think, so I'm done. I'd like to know, have you ever watched any of those shows like Ghost adventures or Paranormal State or anything like that?

Yes, I have.

Okay. You know Kim Ruso had a whole series, and Kim Ruso was one of Pat's students, too.

Oh, and Kim's amazing.

She is something else. Pat turned me on to Kim's programming and talk about being able to just spend a marathon of those episodes because they're pretty interesting. And it is similar to what you're talking about Typically, there would be somebody there and try to get to the bottom of it, which is very cool. I was just curious to know what your thoughts were on some of those shows that sometimes they can seem a little sensationalist in their approach.

To keep in mind, it's a TV show, so they got to give you a reason to watch. That's true, too. There There is sensationalism, but my feeling with what... I haven't watched a lot of them. I do find them fascinating because I'm all into that stuff. But more often than that, it's funny because I've sat next to my sister and we've both said it, too. It's like, they're looking over there for the ghost, but the ghost is over there. It's like, That's both of our feelings. It's like they're looking in the wrong place sometimes. But some things there's just nothing present. That's where I think the sensational is It's like there's stuff. But in my experience, sometimes spirit has the ability to just banish, and you don't hear from them, see them for some time, and they're quite literally not there. But then they materialize, let's say, again at a later time. Because sometimes I'm watching those shows and I'm like, There's nothing going on. They're like, This is completely boring.

Right. Did you hear that? And then they check their EVP. Well, I You've got to be completely transparent, and I do watch the Ghost adventures. I don't know how many seasons of that I was hooked into, and then finally started to go away from it. When I started to watch more of the Kim Ruso things where I know that there's... I don't want to say legitimate because those guys are doing something completely different, right? Yes, they are. They're trying to prove that there is an afterlife, whereas you are trying to clear something out that's unwanted or oftentimes could be viewed as being malicious.

Yes. Of course, they're doing it. They're taking a far more scientific approach than I am because they're trying to record everything now. Because I'm a nerd, and my father, being also a nerd, has all these gadgets because he let me borrow an EKG meter from a lot. It's a very old machine because it has one button and a dial on it. Just to tell you how old this thing is, but it detects electromagnetic fields. Unfortunately, if you point it at the refrigerator, it will click. But if you're in a basement, there's nothing like that going on and it's clicking, then there's something, then there's an electromagnetic field happening. I used to bring it with me for kicks. It's just like, Let's see if I point this in. It's where I feel something is. Sometimes the machine and I would agree with each other.

So funny story. In Illinois, there's a tourist town called Galena, and it's a very, very old town, rich in history and everything. And Grant, Ulysses S. Grant, His home is there, or was there. No, it is there. He's not there. But the home is there. I, too, am a sucker or nerd, what have you for those types of things. I went on a tour. It was just my wife and I went on this tour, and we went to a cemetery, and then we went to a haunted home, and then we went somewhere else. Oh, a haunted bar, believe it or not. So there's hotels and bars that are haunted in Galena as well. And that little EMF meter that you're talking about would go to the red when anything was near the electromagnetic field. Well, we were in the cemetery, and I was fumbling around for my phone so I could record that. And phone was in the back pocket, and I turned towards a large headstone, and all of a sudden, the thing turned red I tossed the EMF meter thing and started frantically trying to grab my phone so I could... And by that time, I got my phone out of my pocket.

It was gone. So I probably scared whatever was there worse than it scared me. But yeah, I was wondering how you felt with that, because I know my first run in with something like that was a little less than gallant. It freaking me out a little bit.

I'm always fascinated with walking through cemeteries with something like that. But I want to say I find it really interesting because I'm not saying spirit doesn't hang around cemeteries. There are some that do, but I'll say, but it really doesn't hold a lot of that. What cemeteries hold is what I call death energy because it's still holding… When someone transitions, there's death energy. The body holds on to that and still has it by the time they're buried. So cemeteries are filled with death energy, which is not a bad thing, but just to get when it's every couple of feet is another source of that. Collectively, it gives you maybe an uneasy feeling because we're not transitioned. You're feeling the difference is what makes people uncomfortable. As much as it's a park and it's sometimes nice and nice, like lush greenery. But also similar to a hunting where people collectively believe it's haunted, therefore it becomes that. A similar thing with everybody knows what a cemetery or a graveyard is. Walking into that, you're feeling the death energy, and it can attract spirit because people walk through there.

Sure. Well, I mean, here's the other thing, too. It's a lot different walking through there at 11: 30 at night than it is 11: 30 in the morning. Let's be honest, because you're right, because all of a sudden you're, Oh, look at that stone. Oh, look at the date on that. Everything is pretty cool.

Because more than likely, the person you're reading the headstone of, they're not there. They've long gone. Rarely would they be there. In my experience, at least, maybe someone else has a different experience. Rarely, in my experience, is the person still there. But To me, more often than that, darker stuff is hanging around a cemetery.

Sure. Well, I mean, here's the thing, too, right? Because if you go on these tours, they want something to happen. So if they know that something's going to happen when you're there, whether it be what you're talking about, death energy or what have you, they want that because then somebody is going to give them a good rating, and then they're going to want to come, and then they're going to be busy. The one that got me a little bit, though, there were two of them. The one was at a home we went to where there were no electrical outlets. It was gas. They had the gas lights still working in the home. Beautiful. We went in there, but there were only a few of them, right? So it was pretty dark. Then they said that there was a child that would come out typically when women were present, which made sense from a mom type of thing. Yeah, it makes sense. Of course, makes you sad and all of those feels. But when... See, it didn't go off when I held it. It went off when my wife held it. It went over towards the corner, and they said, Well, usually it's over in the corner.

If he's going to come out, it'll be over in the corner. And it did. And she reacted much better than I did. She was excited about that. And we're talking about somebody who doesn't believe in any of this stuff. She was like, Oh, my gosh, look at that. That's how cool is that? And then she starts waving it all over the place, trying to find it again, but it wasn't happening. The other one was in a bar that they said was back by a pool table. And they said that if you were sitting When you were sitting at the pool table, sometimes you would just all of a sudden get pulled off. So going back there, they didn't have the EMF things, but what are Those little rod things?

Oh, dowsing rods?

Yes. Okay, thank you. Those dowsing rods. And the gentleman who was leading the tour was using that. I gave him a side eye with that thinking, Okay, well, you're twisting it around. He said, Okay, put your hands, make two fist. He just shoved them in there, the rods in there. He said, I'll ask the questions. You just stand there and look I was like, Okay, I can do that. I was surprised that it did that. They would move. I had no control.

They move and answer your questions.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. But you don't need any of those gadgets when you're doing your thing.

No, but it's fun to have, obviously.

Yeah, I would imagine, especially if you have people.

I mean, a couple of times I wish I had somebody with me with some recording equipment because I'm like, Hey, if someone wants to record something flying at me, it's like, That would be great to put online. Wouldn't it? That would be great. Usually when they I think almost 99% of the time I'm solo when I'm doing this stuff.

Man, you know what? That's when the old Ghost adventures throw up that camera, that stationary camera in the corner and gets the room. But sometimes that gets knocked over, too. So you never know. Any other stories for us before we wrap it up?

Let's see. I'm recalling one of the jobs I did in Manhattan. It was a building, I think it was another apartment building, but it was not under construction, but I guess under construction, but also falling apart at the same time. That's why I think there was renovation. But that place had some dark energy around it. I remember because there was the open staircase that in some of these buildings, it's one staircase that accesses every floor in the center. This thing, whenever I felt like it kept changing the rooms just ahead of me until I'm like, Okay, you got to stop it. I got to at least see what's going on. At some point, I eventually caught this thing, and it's how it appeared to me. It was nothing but tentacles, but just tentacles sticking out of the ceiling, I think, with the intention of creeping me out.

Oh, my God.

Which because I'm like... Part of me is like, Do I run? But at the same time, I had the feeling it can't do anything to me. It's all the imagery it's giving me in my head to, I guess, scare me off. But at the same time, I'm like, yeah, this is pretty creepy.

Well, yeah, that would- I'm not saying my hair doesn't stand out on my neck when I do some of these things.

But I think I've built such maybe a stab at first. I'm not saying I never get scared. I'm just like, sometimes I'm like, I think I built something. Because there's also a general cosmic law, it can't touch me if I don't want it to.

Which is another reason why I prefer that homeowners don't do that because they don't know what that is.

Even if you tell them, they don't understand the concept or maybe they don't believe it in the moment or don't trust it. If you don't trust it, then these things could do more with the intention of being intimidating. But to be real, there's dark stuff out there.

Oh, I would imagine. Then when you leave a place, do you go through then your own cleansing ritual for yourself? Oh, yes. Okay. To make sure nothing follows.

Usually, when I get home, I have I have some things I do to shake off whatever could have hitched a ride or whatever, or just to get dirt on your shoes. Just pat myself down and clear all this out.

Wow. I would love to accompany you on one of those, and I would record it for you.

That would be cool.

I can't say that I wouldn't if something I wouldn't go, Oh, fuck. That I couldn't promise, but it would be legit. Whatever was happening, it was... I'll be honest, too, that sometimes I think, Oh, gosh, that would be so cool to go on one of those overnight things where they stay all night. And then I'm going, Okay, that's pitch black. You can't see shit. I'm Is something touching you and there's nobody there? Because you hear about that type of thing, especially in homes where like They don't want the homeowners there any longer, where they'll scratch, push, move things, hide things. Is that some of the stuff that you get when people are calling you for that?

Occasionally. Honestly, it's not a lot, or at least maybe not as a lot as you think, because a lot of people, they're interpreting it as maybe a haunting. I don't consider it actually a haunting, as I said maybe in the beginning It's just flundered energy that just needs to be told, that just needs to be cleaned out today.

Got you.

Because I'm trying to... I've had situations where I've walked in and I'm like, Let's see, there's no spirit causing an issue. But I can tell when, let's just say family members have really, really good arguments that get maybe pretty heated, and I can feel that. That's what's causing the residual energy to stick around and do something that maybe people are not appreciating in that space. But I'm talking about a lot. I don't want everybody to be like, Oh, my God, I can't have a fight because I can't have a shouting match because it's going to happen. It's like, no, I'm talking about this is a lot in either the current owner, maybe the previous owner, or maybe they just had somebody stay there and they were just a problem. Because when we're in a low vibrational place, we attract it. So somebody around us is in a low vibration, they're attracting that to themselves. So it becomes It becomes a complicated situation. I also wanted to say, but where I live, specifically on the island, and I can only speak for that because this is where I live, there's a lot of haunted or crazy locations.

Because you were talking about a I've been to a bar before. I've been to a bar, but just recreationally in Smithtown. I wasn't there to do a job, but everyone's like, This place is haunted. I walked in, I'm like, No, I don't feel it just yet. I had to walk into the basement. I'm like, Oh, yeah. Okay, down here, I can feel it. I didn't feel it upstairs.

Really? Yeah.

No. There's locations, I think it's, forgive me, Long Island people. Is it Sweet Hollow Road? Is just a crazy spot to drive down in the middle of the night because there's, I can't say it's hauntive, but there's a lot of energy that wants to show you something interacting there. I never quite investigated it. I've been there, and it's just like, Yeah, it's a little crazy in what I can see in my head with this. But so specific locations could hold energy that will act on it, act on, I'll see, in the lure of what everybody thinks it's going to do.

Okay. Well, and just so everyone knows, one of our podcast frequent flyer guests, Irene DiReste, actually happens to know Joseph and knows about his ability as it relates to clearing homes and businesses. And she said, Joseph, and she referred to you as Joe, but she said, Joseph is incredible. He is, hands down, one of the best at doing this. Oh, thank you. Coming from her, I believe that 100 %. One last thing, I keep seeing one last thing. So let's say that someone has a feeling that there's something just not right in their home. Is there anything that they can do on their own? Because let's just assume not everybody that listens is on Long Island and New Jersey can call you. What could they maybe do?

Something like this, I want to try and keep it simple for them as possible. One, I really want them to understand that it's their space, they're in control. If they don't want it there, it can't exist with them, but they got to wrap their minds around that. It's a little bit of ignoring it and a little bit of you got to tell it to leave you alone. It might stop its feet over there, but it can't be in front of you. It has to be over there where you told it to go. It's first and foremost, I promise everyone, you're in control. It can't do anything if you don't want it to. Very good. Second, though, I also want to say whatever they can do to make them feel better about the situation, if they feel like there's something intimidating, whether it's if lighting a candle makes you feel better, if I'll say putting religious symbols around it, if that makes you feel better, do it because that does help. Very good. Whether it's, let's just say, a good spirit that's just being annoying if you do all that stuff because the intention behind it is, I don't want you crossing this line for me, and it has to follow that rule.

Very good. I think the kiss methodology in this instance would be very Very good. Keep it simple, sucker.

Keep it simple. If you really feel like you're having an issue, you can call me.

Oh, there you go. There you go. We have Joseph's... Well, his website will be on the show notes again, so there is no problem in getting in touch with him. Well, it's just about time to cue the music for today's episode, but don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe to the Drop the Needle podcast to stay up to date on our latest episode. I'd also like to take a moment to thank everyone again for tuning in, and I hope you enjoyed this episode of the Drop the Needle podcast. I'd also like to thank our very special guest, Joseph Dyro, for being on the show today. Joseph, how can folks get in touch with you again?

Let's see. You can contact me through my website or email, my phone number. I'm on a bunch of social media. I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram. I'm also on TikTok. I don't know what I'm doing on TikTok, so forgive me, people. But all of them, everywhere, possible way to send me a message, I'm out there somehow.

Fantastic. And as a matter of fact, if you can send me all of your social handles, I'll make sure that they get put on the show notes.

Okay, I'll do that.

Excellent. And I invite you to head on over to our show notes, where there's going to be a link to this episode with all of Joseph's socials. And also on there, you'll be able to book a session with Joseph, if you'd like. He's got so many offerings, like we said before. It's not just house clearing. We have cards, we have one-on-one sessions, we have Reiki, we have Feng shui, we have all sorts of things. All right, my drop the needle posse, like Billy Joel says, from the highs to the lows to the end of our show, this is the end of our show. Until next time, this is Jim Allstott, wishing you infinite health and happiness and the perfect playlist for your life. Thank you again for being the best part of us. Catch you next time.