Transcript of The Big Suey: Titling Your I's

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings.

Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, Fatface and the Pitchou a Liar.

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Let's get some real football expertise to answer some of those questions that we didn't have answers to earlier. We'll do that in a second with Dominique Foxworth. But before we do that, Roy, can you please tell me who the nuttiest fan of the week was brought to you by Hampton Farms? We got to send Dominique some peanuts so that we're literally paying him in peanuts.

Yeah, congratulations to Texas Tech Tortillas. They are this week's nuttiest fan, presented by Hampton Farms, the official snack of the tailgate.

Well deserved. Been doing that for 30 years, we just noticed.

That's right. And we're celebrating it by making... You shouldn't throw away tortillas. I think they should be penalized for that. Not rewarded, but I'm not in charge around here. A couple of stats from the Dolphins game last night and in general, okay? Last night was the first Dolphins drive with multiple third down conversions of 10 plus yards since week eight of 2022. And Also, Mike Renner of CBS Sports is going to hit Dolphin fans right in the groin region with... Tua's cap number is higher than Josh Allen's in 2025, 2026, 2027, and 2028. That's a structural flaw in your division.

He competed in the Bachelorette.

Dominic, what can you tell me and welcome, sir, about what you saw last night and how you felt about it? Because I was arguing that's about as well as the Dolphins can play.

Yeah, I mean, we don't do moral victories, but that was a chance that you guys could have been looking at an overhaul after that game, and it feels like it was slightly encouraging. The stat about the multiple third down conversions is an interesting one because that's one thing that jumped out to me in the game is how many drives they had that were just empty, like three and out drives, relative to the Bills, who I felt like never really went three and out, which they did. Scoring every drive, they missed a field goal, they weren't perfect either. But the Dolphins really put a ton of pressure on their not that great defense by going three and out. So they have a long, beautiful, they had a nine-yard drive, a 16-yard drive that ended in touch downs. And that's like, this is good football team stuff. And Tua was excellent in certain situations. He was able to get out of pocket and create and do unorthodox outside of the structure type of things, the things that Chris was looking for him to do in the past. And I was impressed with him. But then those three and out drives are really killer.

And then, of course, there's penalties and late game turnovers that kill you guys. But the talent, it's just a reminder, the talent differential in the NFL Well, is so minuscule that any team can find a way to compete if they put together some good drives and don't have stupid penalties and inopportune turnovers at the end of the game.

Dominic, it's hard for us because we're watching on TV and you can't see down the field. But what can a diva- See, that's where you're wrong.

Amazon, baby. That Thursday night game, you watch the next Gen joint. Oh, so much better. What do they do? Really? Yeah. So they have a next... When they first came on Amazon, they had a bunch of different sidecasts. It was like Dude Perfect and some others just trying to pull people in that were just boring and terrible. But they also had the next gen telecast, which is a NextGen telecast, shows you the whole feel, saves me so much time. I don't have to do too many rewatches because I can see the whole feel from the beginning to the end of the game. It's great, but I still had to rewatch because last night I was teaching my son about exponents.

All right, so help me out here then, because I didn't know about that. Now, I'll also tell you, I'm probably still not going to watch that. But anyway, I didn't know about that. So what is a defense doing that is preventing the dolphins from even attempting anything over the middle or downfield or Waddle and Hill. It was screen pass after screen pass.

We were saying before you came on here, Dominic, that Tua had more passes or as many passes behind the line of scrimmage as past the line of scrimage.

So it's a combination of things. They're playing deep zones. They're forcing them to do that. They're giving extra attention to Tyreek Hill. They're only rushing four, and Tua doesn't have a super strong arm. So the Dolphins blitzed a lot, but they also did some of this deep zone stuff to try to take away the big play in their tiny little windows. And Josh Allen can rip it into those windows. And so when they are small windows to get deep downfield, if you have the arm strength in the accuracy and the anticipation, which is what Tua used to be, like the end cuts on anticipation, then you can hit it. But I think that a lot of teams have decided that the way that they want to play Tua is challenge him to be able to tack down the field. Challenge his team to have a really long drive without making a mistake by forcing them to check down and try to take Tyreek Hill out of the game. And if you're going to attack us downfield, you're going to have to squeeze it into a small zone with a quarterback who is not known for his arm's strength.

But is that new? Were teams not doing that two years ago, or you think it is a drop off from Tua?

No, I think it's somewhat of a change. They ran the ball well last night, but they ran the ball better in the pass, which then that would cause the guys to come up and be a little more aggressive. And also, I think the anticipatory throws and the Tyreek Hill rolling out of these cuts into the end cuts, I think it was slightly different. It was a little newer. And I think combining all those things in Tua has taken more and more hits. So I think that's also part of it where they're like, We're going to make him stand in this pocket. And we assume that he doesn't want to hit. We know you don't want them to get hit. So we're going to try to make this play take as long as possible. Because if you extend the play... And I haven't talked to the Bills' coaching staff, but when I'm watching that tape, that's what I'm thinking. They're like, Please, the more times we make you do this, the likely you're going to make a mistake. So whether it's make you check down or make you try to squeeze it into a zone deep down the field or keep the coverage so long that you have to flush out of pocket and create something on your own, either run or throw in a run, you are going to make a mistake.

And Tua actually made fewer mistakes last night than I think the bills expected him to, but the defense couldn't hold up.

So you're saying that the Miami Dolphins, structurally, one of the flaws is, I'm guessing, you You don't want Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen to extend the play, but you do want Tua to extend the play?

Yeah. I think that's what they're hoping for. They're daring him like, All right, you need a big chunk sooner or later. That's one of the things explosive plays are really important to winning. You're going to need a big chunk. Do you have the arm strength and accuracy and faith, honestly, to let it rip down the field into this tight zone multiple times a game? If you don't, then you're going to have to roll out to force us to distort our zone. And we know, and no one would say this publicly, but in a football game, we know what you don't want as far as injuries concerned. And I think the opponents know that no one wants Tua to get hit. They don't want Tua running the ball, even though for whatever reason they do these zone reads where I'm like, There's no way you're actually going to let this man keep it on the zone read, are you? The backside in should not respect that zone read. But I think that's what they're thinking. It's like, Let's put Tua in a position that is uncomfortable. And even if it's not about exposing him to more hits.

It's also like he's not great in that outer structure. So we're going to force you to do what you don't want.

Is he missing things this season? Because what you're saying, I noticed the past couple of games when he was the fastest to get rid of the ball and he was just throwing passes where he thought people were going to be. They were effective. This season, it seems like he has the ball longer. I mean, numerically, he has the ball longer, where people would say, great, he has a better line, but it's been less successful. Is it just coincidental? Is he missing things or are they just not there?

Yeah. So I think time to throw is one of those tricky ones that people assume means that your O-line is protecting you well, which I guess it could, but it also does mean that you are not playing within structure or you're not comfortable. So I think that it's part of the fact that it's not a secret. That was the big move is we're going to do these motions for Tyreek Hill and do these anticipatory deep in cuts. That was their offense. And that, again, is a shorter throw. So I think taking into account to us limitations with arm strength, The challenge is, and he did it, I think twice last night, that he hit the outside deeper outcut throws. They're going to challenge him to do that because with that ball in the air for that long floating, they feel like that is to their advantage because he can't rip those throws.

Well, what else here, though? Because, Dominique, when you talk about margin for error in this sport, it's a bit crazy. But can we simplify this, too? When Tua was throwing the ball faster, getting rid of it, faster than any quarterback ever, faster than Tom braided, he was. They had the best offense in the league, statistically, when he was getting rid of the ball faster than Tom braided. Now, he's literally taking one second longer. That's the difference between best offense in the league and a team that can't throw the ball down the field.

I mean, Dan, one second is an eternity in football. I think it's like two and a half seconds is the average time to throw. A whole second is forever. It's going to change all the dynamics. And also I also think that it's a... I want to say it's an oversimplification, but I think that makes it seem like that stat doesn't matter. I think that stat matters, but there's so many other confounding variables that will play into how effective this offense is. I think explosive plays are the currency of offense in football. If you get a lot of explosive plays, then you're going to have a lot of success. Creating those explosive plays are sometimes dependent on other things that are less interesting or less attractive to talk about, which includes the running game. That was the key to the Eagles last year was they were able to consistently create explosive plays without the high risk of throwing the ball down the field. So throwing the ball downfield is a lower probability of success. So you don't want to do it all the time, even though you need explosives. Handing the ball off, and also throwing the ball downfield opens you up to turnovers.

Handing the ball off, worst case scenario, we're going to get a two-yard gain, a one-yard loss. We can live to fight another day. Best case scenario for the Eagles last year was we're going to get a 50-yard countdown. And that was the same way that the Dolphins' offense was at one point, was they were getting explosive plays from the running attack, which then causes teams to not be comfortable to sit back in those ridiculous zones. And then that opens up Tyrie kill. You have to isolate Tyrie kill if you're going to try to be aggressive in the running attack. And all of that stuff happened so fast that it protected the offensive line. They don't have those advantages right now because teams are not concerned as much about the running attack, and They're forcing Tua to make those throws that they weren't really taking away that ends those deep end cuts as much as they've decided to now. But honestly, having said all of that, they were actually much better on offense than I anticipated that they would be. But the Bills defense is really injured and not all that great.

Dominic, what did you see on the interception?

I think the defensive tackle won really fast, which I think put pressure onto it. That was definitely a pass-rush win. It was less than a second. It felt like he was into his face, which gave him trouble. I think there was an anticipation that he, to a new, where he wanted to throw that ball before the snap happened, which I don't think is a problem. But there's something that Tony Romo said to me a long time ago in a joint practice that we had when I was with the Broncos is we were doing one-on-ones, and I had a really good break on the ball, and he threw it super high, so I didn't get the interception. And I was like, jokingly, you got lucky. And he was saying he never looks at the receiver receiver in that situation. He's not throwing to a receiver. He's throwing away from the DB. And I think that when you know where your receivers are supposed to be, your eyes should be on the defensive players. And it was like an inside linebacker who wired his zone more quickly and wider than he normally would. And Tua didn't anticipate him doing it.

He didn't see him doing it. And that's like, I'm not a quarterback. It seems ridiculous to say, Don't look at your receivers, look at the defenders. But it makes sense. If you know where receiver is supposed to be, you need to be looking for threats, not looking for opportunities. This episode is supported by FX's The Lowdown, starring Ethan Hawk. Allow us to introduce you to Lee Raybon, a quirky journalist rare Bookstore owner/unofficial truth seeker who's always on the tail of his latest conspiracy. This time, his most recent exposé puts him head to head with a powerful family that rules Tulsa. Meaning only one thing, he must be onto something big. Fx's The Low Down premieres September 23rd on FX. Stream on Hulu. Don Levatard. I took my son to the barbershop, get a haircut, and my man gave out some limp dap. Oh, no. Damn, damn, damn. Stugatz. I disowned him. I threw him right under the bus. I was like, Whose kid is that out here dishing out Limp Dap.

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz.

I want to speed him up and get all around the league talking. No, I know, but I want to go all around the league. You're doing good. You're doing great. Take your time. Nice and slow, baby. We've got a gimmick. No, we got- You're a quicky guy. We want quicky. I'm not a quicky guy. We want all football quickiness when we leave the Dolphins. But before I do that, I just wanted to ask a question to all of you. I noticed today, I I had not noticed it before I was driving, and I saw a library in a place that I had not noticed that there was a library before. And I got to thinking as I drove by it, I'm like, How is the library not extinct by now? Are people just using it for the internet? How has the library not yet gone extinct because you can get all this stuff without leaving your home. What are your thoughts on the library before we speed you up and bounce around the lead?

That's amazing. I haven't given much thought to the library, but my guess is the reason why it's not extinct is because it's not a for-profit business and it's supported by government funds. The library is probably adapted to having programs, would be my guess. People who can't afford to send their kids to camp, can't afford to send their kids to all types of classes and expose them to different things. My guess is that public libraries probably provide a lot of different services, and there's still the Internet. I don't think that a lot of people are checking out books necessarily. But also, I think people who don't have access or can't afford to buy a bunch of things who still like to read, they probably go there and get books. That was a weird change-up.

I went to a library yesterday, Dominique, since this came up, the library. And what you mentioned, the library does have programs. During the summer, they have things where they have guests come in, and they have readings to kids, stuff like that. So my wife would take my daughters once a week to the library in the summer. And when they would go to the library, they'd listen to the readings, and then they would check out books, and they'd come home and read them the books or whatever. I found some of those library books, and I was like, We got to return these to the library. But she would take them to different libraries. So there's this one branch that they would do it on Tuesday, and another branch, they would do it on a Monday or whatever. Then I was trying to figure out which library did these books come from. We thought it was this one branch, but I wasn't sure. I was calling my wife, but she was at work. She wasn't answering. I'm like, I'm just going to go in and talk to the person at the front desk and figure out if this is the library these books came from, if I can return them here.

I asked the woman in Spanish. I asked the woman, Did these books come from here? I have to return these books. My wife and daughter are like, I'm so sorry. They checked out these books a while back. Are they from this library? You know what she told me? She goes, It doesn't matter. You can return it at any library, and then we'll figure it out. I was like, Whoa, okay, hold on a second. I can just return these at any library. That's very convenient. I don't like that. I don't like that because then... She's like, Then we'll just send it to the right library. I'm like, That is, I'm sure, going to money. Where is that coming from? I don't like this. I feel like there should be accountability here, and I should know where these books should go. Not me, my family, the delinquents, not me. But regardless, I'm responsible for this family. I should have to drive to that library, not one of the employees here, however they do it.

How many libraries do you guys frequent? I feel like most people are like, You got your neighborhood library.

I think we got three down a day.

There's a good amount of libraries. Yeah, different sizes. Some are the main libraries, and there's smaller ones and little shopping. You do the West Chester? That's the one I was at yesterday trying to return these books, but they were from the library that was by the Home Depot on like 117th, where there used to be an all-you-can-eat pizza buffet. Anyways.

I mean, no disrespect, but when I think of South Florida, I don't think of the most well-read community. I'm sorry.

Okay, well, I will take that disrespectfully.

How dare you.

How dare you. I will take that disrespectfully, but I will move on nonetheless. Then I said to the Librarian, I said, Again, I'm so sorry. She's like, They were from here, but they It shouldn't be from anywhere. It's fine. I said, Okay, again, I'm so sorry, but I know these are past due. How much do I owe you? Pink cocaine. You know what the Librarian told me when I said, Again, I know these are past due. How much do I owe you? She said, Nothing. We don't charge late fees anymore. I was like, This is bullshit. This is absolute madness. There need to be consequences for my delinquent family holding onto these books longer than they were supposed to. There's no accountability anymore in the library system. You could just take the books wherever you want. You don't have to pay if they're late. Bring them back if you want to. If you don't, no big deal. This is insanity.

That's how you know that they're losing. That's how you know that they're losing is because I know it doesn't make sense. You would think that an industry that's under stress would capitulate to everything, or would not capitulate to anything. They'd say, Well, give me this, give me that. I need it. I need help. But no, when you're losing, you'll do whatever. I'll take whatever. You're going to bring me some books back, please?

My kids need to learn about deadlines. If I need Kids need to learn about accountability. This is where it goes. I mean, they don't drive yet, but this is where it goes back. This is how much you have to pay if you don't meet this deadline. She told me, she's like, No, we don't really charge if they're late anymore. If someone needs the book, we'll call you and we'll ask for you to bring it back. I was like, You're not calling me to ask me to bring this book back? If I go to a library, the book's not there, I'm like, That's a book's lost, or whatever. But I've never gone to a library and be like, When are you expecting this back? They're not doing that. The library right now, and I'm not endorsing this, but the plan that she laid out for me Free books forever. Just go in, take a book off the shelf, scan it out if you want to, don't scan it out if you don't want to, bring it back if you feel like it at any date and time. It doesn't matter. Here's a date four weeks from now.

Here's a suggestion. If you don't bring it back, it doesn't matter. We're not going to charge you regardless. There's no consequence. This is a lawless society, and it starts with the libraries. Someone needs to come in and be a library enforcer. I said that if it's my mission in life to do that, it's not my calling that I thought I would be called for. But if I have to come in and I have to clean up the library system, I will do it. Not today, but at some point, I will do it if I have to. I know what you guys are going to say. This was a Seinfeld episode. There was Bookman who would go in there, and he took the job very seriously. The world could use more of those guys that go in there and respect the library. You can't just be taking books off the shelf and never having to return them. I agree. That's insanity. When you do, just return it wherever you want, and maybe we'll figure it out, or maybe we won't.

Might I add, you were right to take that disrespectfully because literacy rates in Miami Dade County far exceed that of the Greater DC area. Mr. Glasshouse, you're like Jess Smetana telling me how bad Miami is while she's in South Carolina.

You shut your mouth. I didn't say Miami was bad.

You were cracking jokes at our literacy.

I said we were stupid.

Which, by the way, felt a little racist.

I thought you were mentioning cocaine also. What?

I was going to accuse him of racism.

Because how could all those hispanics down there read? That's what that gave off.

Mike, I took it the same way you did. That's what that gave off. I That's when I came off. Mike, I took it the same way you did. That's when I came off.

All right, let's turn our higher to Billy instead. It feels like he's on a slippery slope to authoritarianism.

No, accountability. You're fixing it. There's rules.

This is a weird apology. That's a weird apology.

Okay, hold on. I apologize that I associated Miami with things more fun and interesting than reading old paperbacks. My apologies. You guys are a very learned culture. Unfortunately, you use that education to do crypto scams and whatnot, but you're smart people who read a lot.

No, things look chill in DC right now. You're right. We're the center of corruption. That's our bad.

How?

How could I confuse DC with corruption?

Dominique, let me ask you something. If you had a podcast recording and you just didn't show up because you didn't feel like it, and they're like, It's okay. Just show up whenever you feel like it. If you want to come next week, it's fine. If you want to come the following week, it's fine. It doesn't matter. If someone wants to hear your podcast, we'll call you, and then you can come in and you could do the podcast whenever they want. You would never do that. What were you saying? You're teaching your kids factors yesterday? Exponents. Exponents? You're teaching them exponents? I'm sure your kids know when a library book is due, they take it back on time, and they know where to take it back, correct?

Yeah, they do.

All right.

They take out books from the library school, though, so they just take them back to school.

Why is it so crazy for me to want my kids to need accountability. My delinquent children who did not return their books, and then I have to figure out where to take them back and offer to pay for it out of my money, and then no one will even take it. I wanted to be punished yesterday for the sins of my family, and the library system wouldn't give it to me.

I've heard Chris Cody read.

That's fair.

I want to give Chris some credit and chastise you. There was a couple of days ago where Chris Cody made an incredibly smart and funny joke, and you all just blew by it, and I was hurt. I called Chris personally to tell him that was a good joke. He said that Ken Rosenthal looked in third person, and I thought that was funny. It was a good joke, and you guys just didn't expect for it to be anything smart or funny to come from him. I guess you expect funny things, but you expect to laugh at him, not appreciate the man's funny, smart joke.

I think we're well within our right to not expect smart from him.

He's earned that disrespect, and he can be funny as long as he not reading, or he can be intentionally funny when he's reading, he's unintentionally funny. Let's put these poll questions up. Should the library raise your children and teach them about accountability? Are you surprised the library isn't extinct? And do you love the pizza buffet? I took my take to my wife the other day about the library and learned that she had recently not only been to the library, but stunned the librarians who was suddenly radiant when she asked for a library card, which evidently someone hadn't asked for in weeks, because we're not doing that very much anymore. The asking, the getting of a library card, I can't imagine is happening a whole lot these days.

I appreciate that you are trying to pay with cash, and your wife is trying to get a library card. We are just turning back the clock in a leventary household.

That's right. We got to the library, horse and wagon.

You guys didn't know that W was spelled out. I'm sorry, I didn't think that you guys were cutting edge of literacy. How do you spell it? You didn't know the history. How do you spell it? I mean, you spell it like W, obviously. Actually, in French, I believe they call it a double V, which you guys talk about. Double V. Yeah. You talk about how it should be a double V because that's what it looks like, but it was originally a W. In French, it is the influence why we say Z instead of Z. Because everyone else in English says Z, we say Z, and I believe that's also French influence.

How do you spell W? The word double and then a U?

That's how I would have spelled it.

You don't know how to spell it.

You don't need to spell letters. They're letters. They're not words.

You know what the dot over top of the I and the J is? You know what it's called? It's not a dot. You're not crossing your T's and dot your eyes. You're crossing your T's, titling your eyes. Got to title them.

That sounds sensual. That sounds like you do that slowly. You're a titler.

I I did earlier, man.

I had someone reach out to be able to have the P's and Q's conversation yesterday if you want some info on the P's and Q's.

Dominic, stop. You've barely let Billy talk this segment.

P's and Q's.

We were doing that thing where he's talking and I'm doing another thing. No, that needs a very long.

I can't get a word in edgewise. I got to tell you, no one finds it as funny as you do. We're going to be here until 4: 00. Dan is going to tell us we're talking over each other.

Dan Levatard. Go ahead, Billy. Ask him your question.

Is gymnastics possibly good?

Oh, wow. Stugatz.

I got some phlegm in my mouth. It's okay. Is gymnastics possibly corrupt? This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugatz. P's and Qs refers to when printers use letter set presses and would have to set letters backwards when they were setting up for the printing. It would be easy to confuse the two letters since they are nearly mirror images. So they said, mind your P's and cues.

Oh, so it's not thank you.

No, that information was bad yesterday. That was Jeremy. I'm glad we were able to clarify that. Billy, always a model of efficiency. Thank you for taking care of that for us. I'll see you in that four-hour meeting after the show. We'll talk about everything that happened.

Talking over to each other.

Let's speed up Dominic Foxworth here and get as much football information as we can. Get your football questions ready. We're going to go as fast as we can here. True or false, the Vikings will be better with Carson Wents.

False. I think the assumption that Carson Wents will function on time, even though that's never been his style of play in this offense, is a faulty one. I think the issues that Carson Wents has had are not going to necessarily be rectified by the fact that he's with KLC. But bringing back Dersha. I think Dersha is healthy again. That will change the offense.

It's early, but Bo Nicks is presently rated the worst quarterback in the league by pro football focus. Now, I will apply context. They also claim Baker Mayfield has been the second worst quarterback in the league, and we know that to be false. So what do you make of this?

I think the Bo Nicks stuff is simple. Their offense is designed around short passes, like screen type passes, and deep shots. And Bo'Nicks has thrown a lot of interceptions on the deep shots so far this year, and it's really slowed down their offense. And if the only passes that they're going to allow you to take downfield end up in interceptions and incomplete passes, they're going to have to rework that offense in a way to allow Bo Nicks to make some plays.

Can you explain the Baker rating then? Because he's played pretty clean for Baker Mayfield. He always has a healthy amount of interceptions because he's taken the shots. He's done things without tackles. Isn't PFF supposed to apply context? That one confused me as a Baker Mayfield homer.

Yeah, I have a hard time with that also. But my assumption is they don't factor in the result of the play as much as they factor in the process of the play. So if there's someone open that he misses, they'll count that against him if there's a bad play. Or if there's an interception that's dropped where it won't count against you in QBR or stats or it won't hurt you if you lose the game, they will count as a intercepted or turnover-worthy play.

He had one of those on Monday night, no doubt.

Yeah, so I think that's probably why.

Why are we talking so much about the push-push?

Because it stinks. It's boring and no one likes it. But I understand why the Eagles like it and they want to defend it and their fans want to defend it. But my biggest frustration with it is I want to see football players play. The opportunity cause of Saquon Barkley not having the ball or a fade to A. J. Brown is I get to see a bunch of guys push each other. That stinks.

You just struggled with that word, the way that Tom braided struggled with Kareem Hunt.

You should go faster. What do you make of all the overhead camera angles that make it look like the Eagles are cheating on every push-push with every single offensive lineman lining up offside?

You're right. They are. But they're not trying, I guess, right? That's what they said. And I like what I like, man. I'm sorry that sometime I had a Freudian slip.

Thoughts on Travis Hunter so far?

Yeah, it's a complicated situation over there. He's still an incredible athlete. Obviously, I see it out there. I don't like the way that they're using him. It seems as if a player with that frame is not someone that you want to get short passes over the middle of the field, but it feels like that's what they do with him offensively. And defensively, he just needs more and more reps. He's obviously comfortable over there. He's going to be fine.

Chiefs of Giants on Sunday night. Any way the Chiefs fall to 0-3?

I mean, it's possible. I was I was on Dan Patrick the other day, and he said it, and it blew my mind because I never considered it as a possibility. But we saw what happened last night. It was a very winnable game for the Dolphins. The talent differential was so close. But I have a hard time thinking it'll be a blowout, and I'll have an even harder time picking Russell Wilson in a close game over Patrick Mahomes. So I don't really see the path to a win. It's just neighbors going absolutely nuclear. It's the only way they could win that game.

The Dominic Foxworth show with Charlie Kravitz. He does a preview episode Charlie.

He don't got no damn with. What are we doing? That's a producer who I gave a microphone with Charlie Kravitz? Get that man's name off my show, Dan.

The Dominic Foxworth show with Charlie Kravitz does a preview episode every Friday this season with Mina Kimes, a recap episode every Monday with Bill Barnwell. And sources have informed me that on your show, you had the opposite Vikings take. You said they'd look better with went, and you're being accused of being stugats.

Oh, yeah. You got to mix it up, man. You got to put a little seed here, a little seed there. But it's okay to Don't change your mind. I learned from the great Mike Ryan is when you were wrong, and it's okay to admit that you were wrong. I was wrong yesterday, and now I'm right.

What's the conversation around the bears if they fall to 0-3? They're hosting Dallas this weekend.

Yeah, the only conversation is going to be around Caleb's development. I think that's the thing that matters the most. It depends how they fall to 0-3. If they still have difficulty running the ball, I think the conversation is going to be about addressing that position. But the defense, I think, is pretty bad right now. The way they want to play, they need a dominant defensive line, and they don't have that.

Does that Monday night performance say more about the Chargers defense or Geno Smith? Because that was very confusing.

The Chargers defense is great. It's another team that they like to play a lot of quarters, which allows the safeties to get in the run game. They surprisingly give up a lot, or not a lot, but more explosive plays than you would expect for a good defense. But I think that's the most important part. They're going to be a contender. I don't think anyone thought or thinks the Raiders are going to be. So I find the charges far more interesting.

Will the Dolphins have a top five pick in the draft?

Yeah.

Do you agree with Zazlo and Colin Cauhert that Jim Harbaugh is an all-time great already, or in Colin Cauhert's case, that he's the best football coach there's ever been if you include college and pros and exclude Pete Carroll?

No, I do not agree with that Baluga-ass take. It's a lot of head with a lot of brain, a really weak-ass take. I mean, it's sad that Colin Cauhert stole steal it from you. Yes. That was good for you to come up with. He did steal it. So it's an interesting discussion, but an all-time great. Let's stop it, man.

Outside of the Green Bay Packers, which team, which Kraft got hurt yesterday in practice, too. So they're doing their annual thing of getting really banged up here. Outside of the Green Bay Packers, though, who is the team the Philadelphia Eagles want to see the least?

Well, I mean, I assume you're talking about in the NFC. Yeah, in the NFC.

Because there is one team down south that has their number.

Yeah, I mean, The Bucs, I think, is the right answer to that question. The Bucs are the team that they probably are... They beat them in the playoffs a couple of years ago, and they don't even have, to your point you made earlier, they don't even have their best offensive linemen in Tristan Worf. They're moving people around and making the best of it. I think that defense is going to get better as the season goes along, and they're already pretty good. So I think that's probably the team that... Actually, no, take it back. Rams. That'll play out this weekend. Have you guys seen what Matt Stafford is doing?

For the record, he is the top-rated quarterback, according with BFF?

The throws that he's making, it's incredible. There's no defense for a perfect throw, and he's made 10, not just perfect throws, impossible, impossibly perfect throws so far this season. And they have the personnel on defense, I think, to give the Eagles some trouble. So we'll see this weekend.

Joined our good friend Dave Damosheck on Football America this week, and we had a debate, Greatest number nine in NFL history. Now, we agreed that it's Drew Brees, but if Matthew Stafford gets another Super Bowl, does it become Matthew Stafford?

I mean, I laughed at Dan Orlovski when he said that Matthew Stafford was in the Hall of Fame after he won the Super Bowl, but he might get in there eventually because of the way that he continues to play. Yeah, I don't know. Sure. He can have it.

Or are you a Sonny Jurgen'sen guy?

No, I'm Rodney Pete. Give me Rodney Pete.

What's real and what's not real on Daniel Jones?

I think it's all real. I I think it's a lot of help. I think Daniel Jones is a serviceable quarterback, and there are a number of quarterbacks that I think that are around the middle of the league as far as talent is concerned, and in the right situation, they'll have a lot of success. Of course, there are going to be some bad games. I feel like it's a very Sam Darnold-like situation, where it's in the right situation, which they have a good offensive line. That dude, Warren, he's incredible as far as athleticism is concerned at tight-in, and they have skilled players and tailors running the ball well. So I think it's more about the situation. I don't think that Daniel Jones was ever just terrible. He just was mediocre in a bad situation. Now he's mediocre in a good situation, which makes him good.

You're not terribly surprised by that because you thought the Colts would indeed be good. What has surprised you the most this season?

Surprised me the most. I mean, the week one ridiculous game in the bills was shocking in that moment. That surprised me. I think this sounds silly because I know how you feel about this, Dan, but I I'm a little surprised that the Chief's offense is still as pedestrian as it is, especially with Josh Simmons playing that tackle spot as well as he planned, because I thought that was the problem. I thought Patrick Mahomes, if you could protect him, and the protection elsewhere is not perfect, but if you could protect him with a solid left tackle, then he'll be able to make other things happen. But I think the connection that Patrick relies on with his receiver's down the field, that's been off. He hasn't had that. You see, sometimes people are open and he'll throw it to a spot, and they a couple steps off. And it seems like even with Travis Kelsi has happened a couple of times. So that's weird. And then watching Patrick Mahomes try to run people over, it's like, does he just want to get hurt so he doesn't have to deal with this season anymore? He's just three times in the first two weeks, he put his shoulder down and ran people over in unnecessary situations.

I think you guys are framing me unfairly as it regards the Chiefs. He's just been a dink and dunk quarterback because of circumstances. It's not because he's not good.

I I don't think we actually helped you find that because of circumstances, Lyon. And I shall remind you that a phrase that was uttered on this show earlier today was, They made Josh Allen do that Patrick Mahomes thing. You just knocked the two best quarterbacks in the league.

Because Allen attempted only one pass over 10 air yards yesterday.

I came with this guy. Patrick Mahomes is great, and so is Josh Allen.

But I don't think... So when you say that Patrick Mahomes thing, I was with you. I don't think I was mischaracterizing what you were saying. I agree with some of the things that you were saying. But when you say that Patrick Mahomes thing, the thing I identify with Patrick Mahomes is not Dinkin' Dunkin'. If anyone ever says you're doing that Patrick Mahomes thing, I'm going to say thank you. I'm not going to be like, Huh?

Me? The last two, three years, two years, he's been someone who throws underneath by design because that's what the defenses are doing, and that's what the limitations of the offense are. And that's what happened to Josh Allen last night. Josh Allen was not throwing the ball down the field. He wasn't.

I can't wait till you have a sit down with Mike and you also learn to admit when you're wrong and back off.

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Bye.