Transcript of Hour 2: Make Saturday Nights Great Again

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This is the Dan Leventhal Show with the Stugats podcast.

David Samson is pissed at us because he was supposed to be on today, and we've flown in Darren Ravel to do that business off with him. But now we've got to cancel it because Stugatz is fired up about his weekend observations. He hasn't had a chance to do his weekend observations, and he is coming in roaring. You have to understand, all right? Stugatz has not been able to get off his takes here in a couple of days because it's gotten crowded around here and he wasn't here in the beginning of the week. Well, that's the reason. But he just said under his breath in a way that Andrew Hawkins agreed with that made me feel like that is Stugatz in his prime, that is the best Shugats can do in the giving of takes. He just said Saturday nights used to mean something.

It did. Yeah, different time, man. You had such great television on Saturday night. You had fantasy Island, you had Loveboat. Then if your parents were nice enough or if you could sneak away into doing it, you would stay up until 11: 30 to see Saturday Night Live. You would actually see it live. That's when Saturdays meant something, back in the '80s.

Steve, you 138 years old. The Loveboat. Are you kidding me?

It's a good show.

When did The Loveboat air? I've only ever heard jokes referenced by my grandparents about The Loveboat.

Or on South Park or something. I feel like, though, you've captured the essence of why SNL feels different now because it's not cool to stay up late and watch it. You're an adult. I agree with you. When I was a younger person and I stayed up late and watched Dick in a Box, it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my entire life. Sketch. Someone's dick in the box happened last month on SNL, and I just wasn't watching.

That is a great sketch. I can sing Chronicles of Narnia word for word, bro.

The performance that the Lonely Island had.

Lazy Sunday, wake up in the late afternoon, call Parnell just to see how he's doing. Yo Sam, what up, Pon? Yo Samberg, what's crackin'? You thinking what I'm thinking, Narnia, shit is happening.

The whole thing. That's in the last 25 years.

That's in the last 25, bro.

Take it from there, Dan.

The concert did a whole lonely island montage. It was so good. It was really good. They had Eddie Vedder play the Michael Bolton role.

That's amazing, man. Loveboat. So SNL shouldn't be Saturdays. It shouldn't be at night, and it shouldn't be live. It should be what? Thursday evening, taped?

Perhaps. Yeah, the last episode of the Loveboat, by the way, was 1987.

I was born in 1986.

The first episode was 1977.

Are you kidding me, man?

Captain Steubing.

To get to the point that Stugatz is making there, though, because he does come from a time, as do I, three channels, Saturday Night is the Love Boat and Fantasy Island, and then Saturday Night Live. And Saturday Night Live was a treat, but The Narnia skit is like the- Lazy Sunday. It's almost at the... It's the original point of this stuff goes viral. You no longer have to be somebody who watches it when it happens. It's where late night television got destroyed. It is you can get it whenever you want to. You don't have to wait to get it live.

That's an amazing development. I appreciate that. 1977, the Loveboat, Alabama's first black football player was 1971. This is how long ago This is how long ago it was. There was nothing but Cooper D. Jeans back then. You understand what I'm saying?.

Times changed. America longs for that time. You're over here trying to make America great again.

I'm just trying to make Saturday's great again.

We're just trying to get somebody to schedule.

I'm on a love boat.

There should be a mashup there.

I'm on a boat.

There you go.

Time now for Stugatz's Weekend Observations. It is time for Stugats to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my voice, too.

Weekend Observations brought to you by Miller Light. Then in 1980, in a little town I like to call Lake Placid. They captivated the country's heart when a team of scrappy college kids went and shocked the world and toppled the Soviet juggernots. Sure, there's an occasional TJ-oshi moment here and there, but they really haven't had another moment that compares since. But Saturday, that all changed. Really? When they beat our neighbors from the north.

Do you believe in Miracles?

Rills. And now, this time, it's their tournament to lose, and they're taking the ice with a chip on their shoulder. And Dan, just like that, make no If you make a mistake about it, USA Hockey is back.

Jessica rolling her eyes at this.

I thought the Yukon Huskies would be back this week. I'm not going to lie. But that one's a good one.

Do you have that as the second biggest American hockey moment, them beating Canada in a made-up tournament?

Yeah, I did. You don't?

No. Sochi- Give me some more moments. The gold medal game against Canada.

I have Lake Placet, a little town I like to call Lake Placet.

The '96 World Cup of Hockey.

Right. And Osi goal here, and Osi There, there, and this.

We're a couple.

Dj Sochi.

The stars didn't play in the last two Olympics, right? This is patriotism is bad. Patriotism.

Yeah.

But they have to win because if they lose a championship, then it's all for nothing.

Terrible.

But we're also fighting I mean, they did beat Canada.

They beat Canada at their sport.

That's what I'm saying. They won in Montreal. Yeah.

You got to do it on the road.

You got to do it on the road.

You got to do it on the road. Then you guys brought P. K. Sabana that same day. Then you guys brought P.

K. Sabana on that same day. Stuff at all.

At all. At all.

I lived in Montreal in the height of P. K. Saban. You talk about a superstar, bro. You talk about a superstar in a city. He knows you're good-looking. I was poor. He was rich. I was poor.

I thought, Look at me, Louis. That's it. We've cheapened it.

I lived with a roommate from Craigslist.

We've cheapened it. I need a look at me, Louis. I need more look at me. All right.

Speaking of back, St. John's. The Johnnies. Top 10. Big win over Creighton over the weekend. You watch it, Dan? I did not. Great team, tenacious defense, senior guard play, experience coaching. Don't be surprised if the Red Storm find themselves in the Elite 8. March is coming.

March is coming. We played some Patino sound yesterday from the lockerer. Patino is back.

He is back.

So back.

I like him now.

So back. You've been making fun of him having sex. Not anymore. For 10 years, you've been doing it. I don't know how Patino got back.

St. John's. Top 10. Went over Creighton. Congratulations to Adam Silver. He somehow replaced one bad All-Star game with three bad All-Star games. What are we doing? What was wrong with East versus West? Huh?

Put it on the poll. What was wrong with East versus West?

If Dalton Connect is playing in your All-Star game, guess what? Not an All-Star game.

Put that on the poll as well. If Dalton Connect is playing in your All-Star game, is it an All-Star game?

If you want to see change, commissioners should be up for election every four years. They're skating by, Dan.

That's a good take.

I don't mind that at all.

The new commish. That is a good take. Yeah.

But who votes?

I don't know.

The players. They'll just keep voting for the guy that does what they want them to do.

That's exactly how it works.

Yeah, exactly.

Credit to Victor Wembenyama, the rare player giving effort in an All-Star game. Wembe. He'll stop giving effort in two or three years, right? It's just a newness for him. He thinks he has to go out there and try. He doesn't. I'm glad he did, but he doesn't. Who is asking for this much Kevin Hart?

That was a take from the weekend, right? Did we all arrive there at the same time? At the same time now?

Put it on the poll. Kevin Hart or Mr. Beast?

Number one, Auburn. Visiting number two, Alabama. The Iron Bowl. That's a put the kids to bed game. 4: 00 PM tip off. But I was serious.

I think Jessica's feelings just got hurt from how little effort you put into that fake laugh for her Mr. Beast It has no way he knows.

Do you know who Mr. Beast is?

No. That's what I thought. But I supported you. You did. Marshawn Lynch? Yeah. Valid. Beastmote? To me.

It's my Mr. Beast.

I called Emma in Australia, and I told her to go to bed. It was 11: 00 AM. No show on President's Day.

Put it on the poll. Have you ever put the kids to bed at 11 AM because you didn't know it was in Australia?

I forgot she was in Australia. I thought she was in Syracuse. I called her, I told her to go to bed. She said, Dad, it's 11. That's what happened. No show on President's Day. The Ellen Lebitard stands for Loves himself a long weekend. Dan Lebitard, taking President's Day off despite hating the current President. Dan, the Stugats is strong in you.

It's a federal holiday.

Is it? He's the President of the Company. You took a week off.

You took an extra Tuesday after the Monday off.

Friday and Monday, that's it. I mean...

What was yesterday?

Tuesday. I don't know.

I mean, he's... Was it Tuesday? He doesn't know time zones in Australia.

Monday, President's Day. Dan said we're all taking it off. Tuesday, LaCroce I didn't say anything.

It's a federal holiday. If I showed up, you wouldn't have been here.

I was here. You weren't.

It's a federal holiday. I didn't choose to make it a federal holiday.

You were literally not here the next day.

You weren't here or any of the days before it.

Interesting.

If you need someone... I was here Thursday. I mean, that counts. Thank you. If you need someone to play a flamboyant man from the south, your first call is to Walter Goggins. And your second call is to Walton Guggins to offer him even more money.

Why did you just say that?

I got mixed up. Walter, Walton. It should be Walter. It's Walton. Walton Guggins is the guy you call. And if he says no, you call him again and you offer him more.

I'm starting to think that you're not writing these.

Draymon Green.

Because he's watching so much White Lotus?

I love White Lotus. Are you kidding me? Draymon Green saying, The Warriors will win the title. That's all I got. Draymond, don't write any checks that Steph Curry can't cash. Draymon, should thank Steph Curry every day for making his career. Draymon Green in Detroit is Rodney Book route her. Rodney. There he is.

That would be good for Roy to have there.

It would be, but I'm doing too much stuff right now.

It's been in place. It's buttons to push. Leave Roy alone.

I mean, the Rodney. You wanted the Rodney there, didn't you?

I said it.

Would have been nice. Heads up. It would be really nice for a producer.

I mean, he has the script. Taylor's script.

It's there. It's right there. I don't have it.

Are you manually pushing the beep?

Yes.

That's great timing.

William Byron, one back-to-back Daytona 500, the Great American Race. You know what the B in Byron stands for?

No.

Back-to-back. You know what the W in William Byron stands for? Who the fuck is William Byron? I thought Lagana was back-to-back, Billy.

No. It's the end of the year.

That's the whole champion. Exactly.

The whole kid in Kabuto.

William Byron, do it at Talladega. Dega Buz Peterson is advising UNC on who to hire as their basketball GM, and his first move was to tell them to interview Buzz Peterson. Buzz the Joe Bailey and Stugats is strong in you.

That's a good story. Hawkins, just real quick. Joe Bailey, Dolphins CEO, didn't hire Mike Tomlin, went with Kam Cameron instead because Mike Tomlin was too hip hop. Too black. He was hired by the Dolphins to do a national and international search for the next Dolphin CEO, and he found him in the mirror, and he named himself CEO of the Dolphins. That is the joke that he's making there.

Well, he knew that candidate the best.

He interviewed well. Yeah, he interviewed great. Killed the interview. Wow.

That's exactly what I would have said. Stash this away in the something to ponder file. Viggas star in their respective sport? Jimmy Johnson, the football coach, or Jimmy Johnson, the NASCAR driver. No need to discuss now. Just stash it away for a rainy day. The only Kyle Bush you'll get after a race is a frustrated Kyle Bush. That's all he's got.

Take your word for it.

I mean, win a race once in a while. Even then, he'd be frustrated.

Which Bush is the one that hung up on us?

Kyle.

George W. I mean, that was a good guess. 50% shot. I don't recall. They were both surly. It was Kyle.

I think.

I don't think you're right.

It feels more like Kyle, but Kurt was It was Kurt.

I think it was Kurt. Did you just need to hear the name? I think it was Kurt. He didn't know who the second Bush was. I was pretty sure it didn't sound like Kyle. I was like, I think it's... But I wasn't sure it was Kurt either.

It was Kurt.

Royal find it.

Hey, other sports watching. The Four Nations tournament. Take notes. That's how you All-Star break. Dan, you know what you say if you have Four Nations? I do not. They say you have a great tournament. They do? They don't say you don't have one nation. They just say you have a great tournament. This Four Nations thing is the greatest thing to ever happen to hockey in All-Star games.

Jessica is skeptical. I don't think she thinks you believe in anything you're saying right now.

How many games have you got? None of it.

You can't get one.

When you start a game with a fight, you've got a good one.

It was Kyle Bush.

Told you.

Do you have this out?

I It's 52 seconds.

All right, we'll do it at the end. Okay.

Dan, this Thursday, USA Canada, the best three words in sports, winner takes all. Top five best three words in sports. Oh, wow.

That's an important list.

Number five, touch them all.

Number four, for the win.

It's a stunning development here on the Kyle Bush front. What happened? We hung up on him. Well, Dan did.

Dan did the- We did not join here.

The Vegas Blackjack dealer thing. He was like, All right, we're done here.

That's crazy. You go from, We, Kurt Bush hung up on us to, We hung up on Kyle Bush.

To, We hung up on Kyle Bush. That's how we just did it.

That's right. Now, I see why you don't respect black history. Shit talker. You like to change it.

Number three, first and goal. Number Number 2, Defense Wins Championships.

Wouldn't it be fourth and goal?

Number one, Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Why would it be fourth and goal? Because it's stakes. You love first and goal. No one likes fourth and goal.

No, but it's stakes.

No, but if you have first and goal and you get yourself to fourth and goal, there's a big problem.

There's stakes.

All right, put it on the poll. Better three words, first and goal or fourth and goal.

First and goal makes me happy. Fourth and goal makes me nervous.

I know, but why are you only thinking offensively? I don't know.

Fourth and long is probably even better than fourth and goal, but whatever.

It's my list.

It is your list.

To everybody that does mock draughts, we don't need your mock trades. Enough.

But when the mock draft comes out that's all trades, that one is electrifying every spring.

Saturday Night Live. Uh-oh. Get over yourselves. The only anniversary you should have been celebrating is the 25th anniversary since the last time that show was funny. You know what the S in Saturday Night Live stands for? Sorry, we haven't been funny in 25 years. Snl, do it on a Saturday. Lorn Michael, do it this century.

Michael's.

I don't care. It's got an S on it. Make me laugh.

But I mean, Lazy Sunday is in the last 25 years.

Nobody loves a chirp like Dan Hurley loves a chirp. It's true. What happened to him?

He's really funny and arrogant. Seriously? They won twice, back to back, like Lagano.

Lazy Sunday was 16 years ago.

Okay.

They made it.

Dan Hurley calling a fan Baldy while being bald himself. Hurley, the Stugats is strong in you. Bald on bald crime. I thought they stuck together. No? You don't call another bald guy Baldy?

Sure you do, man. No, you don't. Absolutely. Really? I call Kevin Hart short.

Yeah, but it's not an insult to say, Hey, baldy, if you're bald yourself.

That sounds like a bald person's take.

Jessica's got some Kevin Hart takes. Like, Jessica speaks for the internet. I don't know how it happened. Kevin Hart has been over exposed for a long time. I'm surprised that this is the moment that people are objecting to it.

He's not wrong. It's Black History Month, though. I can't.

He sells underwear with his face on it, doesn't he? He does.

He's a short king. It's hard for me to just rail against it.

He wants to be a billionaire. That's why he works that way. He wishes to be a billionaire.

I'm not saying people haven't mistaken me for Kevin Hart in Airports more frequently than I'd like to admit. I think it's the style, too. It's very similar. I don't know, man. I agree. Maybe not at the All-Star Game. We're in agreeance, Jessica. Don't you worry.

Rick Pitino says you need a PhD to play at St. John's, a passion, a hunger, and a drive. Goosies. I'm back in on him.

Yes.

I mean, you got a root for the vampire.

Societal shift. You have to.

Societal shift. That's fine. We're good.

I think you want to read some of the details of his past, but also some of it is just like, The FBI got there before the NIL stuff.

I read them all.

Passion, hunger, and drive. Pretty redundant, though, right? Yeah. Okay. Just making sure we are- Goose bumps, though.

Seriously.

Is it dead drive or drive? Which was the deal? Just drive. Okay. Got you.

That pro-choice was surgical, Jessica.

I didn't say that.

I don't doubt it. It has to be, almost. Well, not anymore. Most countries.

Mac McClung, the best dunker ever. Please, the hell are we talking about? Speaking of hell, Art Bryals. Dan, those are the weekend observations. He's He's not the greatest dunker ever.

It's absurd. Does he have some of his most trophies, though?

I don't care how many trophies he has. Do it against John Moraya, do it against Jordan.

If a slam dunk contest happens in the forest.

No, but I'm simply asking. I'm asking more, and I'm not objecting to his intake here. I'm simply adding- No bad ideas.

Write that down for Adam Silver. That would be interesting. Slam dunk contest in the forest.

I like it.

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Common thread was Stugatch chumming it up with Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah, I met my quarterCorderback.

Yeah, as you know, as you know, Stugatz didn't talk to Aaron Rodgers. No. Stugatz thought country music superstar Jake Owen was Aaron Rodgers. They had a 20-minute conversation.

Identical twins. I mean, Jesus. Stugatz. Listen, I will never have the relationship with Aaron Rodgers that I have with the guy that I thought was Aaron Rodgers. I mean, that is the greatest conversation I've ever had with my cornerback.

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Can we watch the Kevin Hart video now? Because as a self-proclaimed Short King, I do want to know what your reaction would be if you were in a situation where there are several extremely tall women, like, locking you for being much shorter than they are and trying to take selfies with you.

Let's do it. Let's take it.

Who are the women? Rukia Jackson is one of them. Dijonk Harrington is one of them. It's a bunch of WMBA players.

Okay, that makes sense.

That's not fair.

All right, hey, Now we got here.

That's funny, man.

Come on, babe. Wait, wait, wait.

What's all these dumb things? We look so stupid.

Look at that shit, that picture.

It was so stupid. Don't hold the phone from that angle, Kevin. It doesn't help the situation. It looks like a toddler grabbing a phone. I love this video. They're so tall. They have on heels, too, which I'm sure makes them even that much taller.

Heels do that.

They do, man.

But when you say toddler, I mean, He looked like Brad Williams. He looked so much smaller than them.

I have a number of... Some of my best friends are former women's basketball players, and they are super tall, and we hang out, and they put on heels, and we are walking around me at 5'8 with my heels on and them at 6'4. It is a sight to see. I have pictures. Maybe we could put that on the poll.

No, we need to normalize this, by the way, because this whole thing of women can't be taller than their husbands or men or whatever. It's just wrapped up toxic masculinity, and it's a terrible mindset to have. You should be able to date or be with whoever you want to be with, regardless of who's taller or shorter. However, it is very funny in this video seeing how tiny Kevin Hart looks.

It's funny watching Kevin Hart get bullied by women's basketball players. And then I didn't see that video, but now his post on Instagram makes more sense where he has a picture and he's cut off all their heads purposely. I did not know he was getting bullied.

He is very likable. Kevin Hart, I don't know, has mastered anything quite as much as he has mastered that he can sell all things because you like him like it is. I don't know that a lot of people would say to him that you're one of... I don't know people would put him in the highest of the high classes of comedians respecting other comedians. But as a businessman, you can make the argument he's the best there's ever been at making money through comedy.

If you ask me, would I trade the injuries for the money that I made as a professional football player? I would tell you no. I would ask you, would you trade being 5'3 for a billion dollars? I would probably tell you no if I was that, too. I mean, that's a solid trade-off.

It's life. You just take it two inches off, you're giving me a billion dollars? Yeah, man.

Was he the first to sell out football stadiums as a comedian? He has absolutely mastered popularity, but I was surprised to see it turned this weekend. He's been this for a long time and has masked whatever is the greed of capitalism with enormous charm.

That's his gift. The issue is he's become the easy button for everybody. It's like, just throw a little Kevin Hart on it. I remember Kevin Hart when he was doing indie films and he was hilarious. But to Jessica's point, he shouldn't be in on everything. There are certain places where the joke does not correlate.

Wait, I don't even remember saying that. Was that my take? That's a good take.

I don't know. I thought the sentiment was we had too much Kevin Hart a part of the weekend of the NBA.

She has voiced, like a lot of people this weekend objected to Kevin Hart having to be a part of everything. Yeah.

Maybe Lucy said it.

I don't- Jessica's like, Do not put that on my name. I actually don't remember saying it, but I like that. I would still like to be in a Kevin Hart movie one day if the opportunity presents itself.

There's a lot of Kevin Hart. He's just one of those actors that you always see.

Oh, yeah. He's everywhere.

He's everywhere.

Too much. His resume says, I'll do it.

I wanted to ask you, Hawk, about a news item here that came across on a very slow sports week. Shay Gilgis Alexander has let go of his agent.

Well, he's hosting SNL next week, so that's a weird time for him to be doing it.

He's let go of his agent, and this is the best team in the sport, best point differential in the sport. This is the worthiest challenger to the Boston Celtics, and he's let go of his agent. When he did that, I thought to myself, well, he doesn't need to give an agent a percentage of what will be a Supermax contract because Oklahoma City has rigged the game so that they got the draft pics and they can lock them up and you can pay them more. It's going to be hard to get any free agents to ever do what Durant If Harden and Westbrook escaped from OKC, this guy could stay there for life and be paid Supermax after Supermax. What does he need an agent for? Can you answer that question for me? I can't.

I cannot sit here and explain why you need an agent. If he is like, Hey, I'm going to be here and we're just going to Supermax this thing out until we can't supermax it out anymore. There is a point in time for athletes, in my opinion, where you don't need an agent.

This is the time for him because the max deal is a slam dunk, right? He's going to get that. Why give up 15 to 20% of that money to an agent?

It's not 15 or 20%, but why give up 1%?

Why give up any of it?

I wouldn't want to be a part of your agency for sure with those prices. But also, if he knows that he's going to stay there and it's going to be a super max, yeah. If you need to eventually be like, Hey, I got to get the hell out of OKC, I'm going to need an agent to do so, then you'll sign it there. But you don't have to give up the 3, the 4, the 5%, whatever the hell it is.

They'll line up to sign you.

But think about what the money is we're talking about because we've arrived at a place in sports where the numbers are so astronomical that what he's giving is, what is it? Tens of millions of dollars that you'd be giving an agent on a Supermatch?

Probably more than 30 million bucks if he signs a 300.

I don't think it's 10%, but even if it's 5%, it's more... Even if it's 1%. It's a guaranteed deal. He needs a business manager, though. He needs people. Because right now, I saw the other day, Steve and A Smith, they were discussing during a slow time, face of basketball stuff and making the argument on behalf of Anthony Edwards, and then talking about how a foreign player can't be the face of basketball.

It's Kevin Hart.

But if this player wins the Championship this year, toppling the Celtics, he will catapult, and that's the best team in the league, and they're young, and they're going to lock him up, and he doesn't need an agent. If he does not get hurt, they can be running the sport soon, and it's going to feel a bit like it came out of nowhere. Not to basketball people, obviously. But his stardom has not yet arrived. He's basketball famous. He's not any other famous.

Not yet. I mean, he has the potential to take probably the spot that they were... It felt like Ja Morant was ascending into as the face of basketball, but Shay has continued to play really well, doesn't get into a lot of trouble, doesn't have some of the headlines that you saw from Ja in that moment. If he wins the Championship, it validates him in that way. I'm with him, man. I don't think he needs an agent.

Agents normally take home 4-10% of a player's annual salary, just so we all were all clear on that. But you're right with Shay, Dan. He has not crossed over yet. This This is how I gage it. When I ask my wife, Do you know who SGA is? And she says no, then he's not a massive superstar. She knows Ja Morant. Maybe, perhaps because he got into trouble, but she is aware of who Ja Morant is. She has no idea who is zero.

I will say in terms of however these things matter on who presents well, because Jalen Brown is saying some form of, What do you mean, criticizing me that I'm not interesting enough to be face of the league? This is generally what it looks like if it plays in the right market in terms of style of play, dominating a team, young person, but does not have some of the imprint that you might want for AI style. When we talk about Ja Morant, when we talk about- What a pro wants I didn't do it for you? When we talk about what it is gets to inherit the league, I would be curious how Shay Gilgildias Alexander is being managed because he's an entire economy. Lebron's passing this league over to the young people. They're going to fight for whatever remains of the stardom and the money and the sneaker power, and he's in line. If he wins a championship, what has to happen next for you guys to be able to anoint him as something better than Anthony Edwards, something better than Luca, something better than the young stars in the league?

He doesn't have it for me. I don't know what it is. Probably a championship and probably a really good performance in a championship if I'm watching that championship.

There's no it factor?

Yeah. That team is fun, and they fool around in interviews. They're purposely young. They connect with a different audience.

But that guy has to win five championships.

I think so. He does. I think so. Sga's vibe is a lot like turn-of-the-century Spurs vibe to me. I'll take your work for it. He's a great player, no doubt. I'm just not that invested. If I were Canadian, I'd get it.

But who gets to decide this, though? Mike, where it relates to young people?

No, I'm not. Well, thank you very much.

Put it on the poll. Does Mike get to decide to face the basketball?

Mike thinks he gets to decide.

I don't get to decide to face a basketball. I'm with you on this though. To me, it's very clearly Victor because I think Victor is going to be that. No. It's still LeBron. You know where I'm at with basketball? I read KD's tweets, and I'm like, I don't think he's being sarcastic or an a-hole. I think he's being serious. I'm like, Okay, I agree wholeheartedly with every single thing that KD is saying. I think he's genuinely saying, Hey, man, we don't have the passion that you're looking for. Go watch hockey. I know his reputation is such. I know this is hard to believe, but I think he's coming from a pretty genuine place. If you're questioning our effort, it's a different sport. Please go watch hockey. You will like that. I don't think he's saying like a jerk, well, it's more fun to complain about our sport than to watch it. I think he's being serious. Yeah, he knows the game right now. You turn on first stake. They're talking more about the drama around the game than the actual game itself. At the end The NBA has benefited from that for a long time.

But now that the games aren't as compelling, there's more blowouts to the games because of the style of play, it's hard to work myself up for a game.

Why can't Anthony Edwards be the face of basketball? I know he said he doesn't want to be that. The team's not good enough. That's what his take was? My team isn't good enough for me to be the face of basketball?

No, he wasn't saying... I'm not sure he wants that. He just said, Wemby's got that handled. I think he's saying that Wemby cares more about how all of that is marketed as well. I don't think Anthony Edwards is so interested in some of these trappings.

I think he will be the face of the basketball.

There's a pressure that comes with that, Hawk.

I know there's a pressure. I don't think he cares about it. I think in today's day and age of what the face of basketball is, is going to feel a lot different going forward than it has in the past. Almost him saying that puts him directly in line for it, because when you watched him in the playoffs last year, tell me you didn't feel something, Stu. Tell me you didn't watch Anthony Edwards talk to KD, his idol, in those moments. Oh, I did. You'd be like, Man, this is someone who does not care about his friendships. He doesn't care about LeBron. He doesn't care about any of these people. That's what you want from the face of basketball, someone that cares about it, like the way Mike is saying that KD admitted that most players don't.

But the face of basketball has always been, basketball is pretty much, basketball's best player. It's been Magic, it's been Michael, it's been LeBron, right? Those are the faces of basketball, correct? Anthony Edwards is not there, man.

Well, but no one's allowed to be where where we've been for 20 years. They've hogged it, right? Lebron and Steph have hogged it, and KD have hogged it for 20 years, all of it, and now it's time for the young people.

I feel like it's Caitlin Clark right now.

She's not wrong.

Good shout. That's right. Good show.

American Whites, man.

You're so right about that.

It's tough. Cooper Flag coming up. That's what they're making the way for, man.

I do think that there might be a correlation between the general Look what's happening with tennis now. Tennis, it's starting to get a little bit more attention because American males are starting to be better at tennis. And you see what's happening in basketball. That's why everyone got behind Ja Moran so much. Like, Okay, finally, a marquee American star player here. Mvps throughout this decade, European, trailing back to the end of the last decade. I think that there's something there. Marketable US superstar in his prime the way that LeBron was. I think that that's the disconnect right now with the audience in part.

Probably. Billy. You got Dan saying, Jokić is better than Michael Jordan. That doesn't help what we're trying to do here in America.

During Black History Month.

During Black History Month. Something he's been on record saying he does not have respect for. I know, man.

Nine days left. Billy, I saw during this segment on the face of basketball that we somehow stumbled into accidentally. I saw that you seemed distracted by a... Was that a bowling ball? What has happened?

Not just any bowling ball.

It's a big surprise for tomorrow.

What do you mean? What do you mean? What has happened here?

We don't want to give too much away here.

Someone decided to mail Greg Cody a present that appears to be a bowling ball that was made just for him years ago as a promotional tool with a Dolphins logo on one side and a Miller Lite logo on the other side. There are no holes drilled into said bowling ball. Greg, when he comes tomorrow, if he's coming tomorrow, whenever he comes again, can have this bowling ball seemingly personalized for him and use this bowling ball moving forward should he want to. Wow. That's solid. That's what I was looking at.

Is it something that has holes in it?

No, it has no holes drilled in it. Yeah, and he can have it personally.

Exactly right.

Have you opened it? I want to open it.

That's the thing is I'm conflicted. Do we open it or do we leave it for him?

It's not gifrapping. It's his gift to open it.

It's got the old-school Dolphins logo, which probably means it's got an old-school Miller light logo. It does.

You got to make sure. Oh, it does. Make sure it's not something that'll put you in jail because you can't just be opening random.

No, I can see the logos through it. There's a Miller light logo and a Dolphins logo.

We're good, Hawk.

We've been meeting basketball this week. Can we all go around the room and say our favorite basketball player. Mine is Josh Hart. Who's yours, Stugatz?

Michael Jordan?

Yeah.

All time or today?

Right now.

I was going to say all time, Josh Hart, favorite basketball player is a crazy take. Not all time. But I wanted you to drill down into.

I love him so much.

I liked him for my time at Chelsea.

What's it, Chelsea? Stugatz, you're up.

Brunson.

I've got a legitimate question. Is it and can it be a bowling ball if it doesn't have holes?

That's legitimate. Yeah, but he's going to get it fitted for his fingers.

A car could have no wheels.

But is it a bowling ball if it doesn't have holes?

Wow, this is pretty dope.

What would you call it? A marble? Big marble.

They sent him a big marble.

I still have PTSD for marbles.

Make bowling time.

That is beautiful. It is beautiful. Wow.

He's going to be so happy.

It's beautiful. But it's not a bowling ball. Where do you finger it? It's just an orb. I will not respect Black history.

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