Transcript of #163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition

Gary Breca, it's an honor to have you here, man.

Dude, it's such an honor to be here. I can't even tell you, man.

Thank you.

This room is incredible. Like I said, it it's full of, like, knives and guns and bullets and but the but the stories on the wall in here, it's like the energy in here is so good. You feel safe. Like, you feel protected.

It's Thank you.

You got an awesome spot,

man. Well, I appreciate that. There's a a lot of history in here from, from a lot of our guests and and from my prior careers. And and, and, but, hey, I had a great time at your podcast too. I mean, we were joking downstairs.

I I, I've never been talked into getting in another man's bathtub. So

Yeah. We became we became best friends that day, brother.

You're like, you gotta get in here. It's hydrogenated water. And then I did it, and I'm like, I'm sitting in there. I'm like, I can't believe I got in this fucking guy's bathtub. And, and sure as shit, like, you told me, hey.

If you have any aches, pains, it's all gonna go away. And I was like, yeah. Right. And I'll be damned, man. Like, I didn't notice it right away.

I noticed it the next morning

because that's how

it usually hurts the most. And no shoulder pain, no back pain, no knee pain, and I was like, okay. There's something to this. Yeah. And, and I took like I told you, I took pictures of all the little devices that hydrogenate the water and started googling around and got in touch with 1 of the companies Yeah.

And and, and really started researching it. And so I'm gonna get all that stuff.

There's a there's a there's a website called hydrogen studies dot com. You can go there for for free. It's all the consolidated research on hydrogen. Hydrogen gas, using hydrogen to increase, circulation, reduce inflammation, improve cognitive function. I mean, just just go there and read it.

There's animal and and human studies on there. You can select out the animal studies and read the human clinical trials. I think it's the it's the best kept secret in in all of modern medicine. I mean, for for athletic performance, I mean, you you talk to like a Jon Jones or a, Michael Chandler or, you know, some of these other athletes that I've I've I've worked with, simple changes to their regimen, like having them bathe in hydrogen water, having them drink hydrogen water, and and the reduction in pain level and the improvement in performance, because of the reduction in inflammation. But most people that are in the kind of pain that you were in, knees, hips, shoulders, rotator cuff, low back, they're on corticosteroids, you know, any inflammatories, like a methotrexate or dexamethasone or, prednisone called medrol dose packs, or they're taking pain medication.

Mhmm. When you can actually take a warm bath in hydrogen gas and get the same effect, and it not only can last longer, it can potentially permanently reverse those conditions.

No kidding.

Oh, yeah. I mean, after,

you know How did you you know, I don't wanna get too far on the weeds because we're just starting out.

Okay. Right.

I know we'll get more into this, but I am I don't wanna forget this question. I mean, how how the hell did you even like, where did it who comes up with, like I mean, to me, this is, like

You asked, like, 4 questions.

To me, this is, like, psychedelics, like Yeah. Who picked the who picked the who picked up the toad and rubbed it and ate the venom? Yeah.

That's what I wanted to know.

Venom. You know, who came up with that? Right.

Because

and so I wanna know, like, how did you how did you find hydrogen and and its benefits?

You know, my my undergraduate degrees are in biology, and my postgraduate degrees are in human biology. So I've always been, like, crazy fascinated with the human body. And the more I study the human body, the the the more it's actually strengthened my faith, the more I believe that this was created by, a divine being, and it wasn't by accident. Like, you'll never convince me that 2 bacteria banged a 1000000000 years ago in a mud puddle, and a lizard grew out, and eventually we became homo sapiens. And here we are.

Right? And, it doesn't it doesn't even make sense evolutionarily because there's huge gaps in the fossil record, but we we could talk about that later. But but I've been fascinated by the human body, and I just believe so much more in what God gave us than what man makes us.

Mhmm.

And we become a society that's just become so dependent on chemicals, on synthetics, on pharmaceuticals. But when you really start to look at the the research, which I'm fascinated by like, my heroes are the the scientists and the PhDs and the MDs and the researchers that are doing real work, studying real human beings to try to extend life and and and and and improve humanity. And what you find in in most of this research is that we're just getting back to the basics. Right? Sunlight, grounding, breath work, whole foods.

So hydrogen's been I mean, you're probably 60% hydrogen by weight. I mean, think of the percentage of water you are. And it's harmless to human beings, but this gas has anti inflammatory process, properties. It feeds a whole class of bacteria in our gut. It's, it's, improves circulation.

It improves the absorption of our, supplements, our our nutrients. So, you know, simple things like switching to drinking hydrogen water, like using a hydrogen water bottle or hydrogen tablets, bathing in hydrogen water, you know, water that's been circulated through a machine that just adds hydrogen gas to the water. Game changers, Psoriasis, eczema, and and don't take my word for it, you know, Google around. Go go to hydrogen studies dot com. Read read the research for yourself.

So, and this is 1 of those things I studied, you know, after our, I really kind of got into the biohacking space because I was in the mortality space for decades, you know, predicting predicting death. And as I've really started to go down the rabbit hole of what is truly extending life. Like, how do we not just add years to our life? How do we add life to our years? Like, how do we not grow old and have to deal with all the consequences of aging?

Well, the way you grow old and don't deal with the consequences of aging is you give the body the raw material it needs to do its job. Right? And and and if you look at the broad research on this, like, look at blue zones, for example, right, where you have these centenarians, people that live way beyond age 100. If you look at all of these blue zone areas of the world, you won't find continuity between diets. Right?

So the dogmatic dieting is not the answer. So it's not vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, carnivore, keto, paleo, raw food. It's not these hyper dogmatic diets. It's whole food diets. Right?

You go to you go to Sardinia, and you see that it's 1 of the highest carbohydrate consumptions in the world. Well, how are they eating so many carbohydrates and living to a 117 years old? Well, they make their bread from scratch. They make their pasta from scratch. These are all whole foods.

You go to the Mediterranean, and that flies in the face of of, you know, modern medical recommendations. High amounts of, fat, fatty fish, lots of oils, cheese. So and then you go to you know, the French are screwing the whole thing up because they're smoking cigarettes and drinking wine and eating cheese. And and some of those areas are they're they're living forever. Go to Singapore.

It's 1 of the highest meat consumptions in the world, 1 of the longest life expectancies in the world. So what's the commonality? The commonality is a whole food diet. You know, in the United States, 67% of our diet is highly processed foods, which are not even foods. Right?

So I have an intellectual curiosity like a child. Like, I'm I'm absolutely fascinated by the human body. And I think that we are just barely beginning to understand what God's created. And I believe more in its ability to heal itself. I believe more in its ability to heal the environment around it, than I do in the, you know, chemical industrial complex.

And so, you know, we should be studying things like that. Hydration, nutrition, hydrogen water, hydrogen gas. These are things that are readily available for us. So so when you when I asked you that day if you had any aches or pains and you're like, do you do you have some time? Yeah.

You're like, like, everything hurts. I go, you're gonna wake up tomorrow morning. Nothing's gonna hurt. I remember you. I could see the doubt in your face.

You were right. You were right. But, we'll we'll get into that Yeah. Here in a bit. I wanna everybody starts off with an introduction here.

So, Gary Breca, you're a human biologist, biohacker, and longevity expert with over 2 decades of experience in optimizing human performance and wellness. Previously, you were a mortality modeling expert in the insurance industry using medical records and demographic data from 360,000,000 lives to predict lifespans with remarkable precision. Determined to transition from predicting lifespans to extending them, you embarked on a quest to optimize biomarkers and unlock the secrets to a longer healthier life. Since this transition, you've founded the ultimate human media platform and podcast where you share insight with celebrities, athletes, and scientists. You're a consultant to high profile individuals, including CEOs, professional athletes, and celebrities such as Dana White, Jon Jones, and Stephen a Smith, working with a team of experts to optimize mind, body, and spirit through science backed methods.

You're also a husband, a father, and probably most important of all, a man of faith and a Christian. Amen.

And I know

I'm missing a ton of other information.

Those are the highlights. Those are great.

But, and 1 thing we do is, we have a Patreon account. They're they're our top supporters. Many of them been been with us since the beginning, and, you know, this whole thing kinda started off in my attic as, as a hobby. And, and they have enabled me to grow this into what it is today.

And,

so 1 of the things I offer them is, I give them insight into who's coming on the podcast Mhmm. And, offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question.

Cool. So they knew that I was coming on to see if there's a word specifically for me.

Alright. This specifically for you. So this is from Jesse. What do you believe is the most underestimated factor in optimizing longevity and cognitive performance, and how can individuals practically integrate this into their daily routines?

So the most, underutilized overlooked area, in all of human optimization, as we talked about a few minutes ago, is sleep. If you're not sleeping, you're not healing, you're not repairing, you're not eliminating waste, you're not toxifying. And so if I was to just pick 1 thing, to optimize in my life, to improve my cognitive performance, it would be it would be sleep. And then followed by a second, 3rd, and 4th, and I'll just lay those out for Jesse. The second would be movement.

Again, going back to the discussion we had about the blue zones, 1 of the things that was common between all of the different blue zones, which was not diet, was mobility until later in life. So sitting is the new smoking. Sedentary lifestyle is now the leading cause of all cause mortality.

Wow. Yeah. The leading cause?

It is the leading cause of all cause mortality, meaning the the greatest impact on the total number of deaths, what's called a modifiable risk factor, is sedentary lifestyle. I have a saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. And and and most of us are aggressively pursuing comfort, we are accelerating the rate at which we age. We have to stop thinking about stress as being a negative. Alright?

Stress can be very good for us. If you don't actually load your bones, they will not strengthen. I don't care how much calcium you take. If you don't actually tear a muscle, it won't grow. If you don't challenge the immune system, it will weaken.

The worst thing that came out of the pandemic, second maybe only to the vaccine itself, and we can talk about that, but, was residential quarantining, masking, and social distancing. You took human being beings out of contact with other human beings. So what happens when that occurs? The immune system weakens. Right?

The body's very efficient. If you stop using something, it will forget about it. Right? If you put a cast on your left arm, even if it's healthy, and you take it off in 6 weeks, and you compare your left arm to your right arm, it will not only have lost muscle mass, but you have lost actual you will have lost a lot of tissue. Right?

Not just fat, muscle, tendon, ligament, bone, will start to demineralize. Because if you don't use it, you will lose it. And so when when we stopped challenging the immune system, the immune system weakened. And then we woke up from the pandemic, and everybody went back to, quote unquote, normal society, and now you start hearing about things like, well, we're on our 8th version of Omnicron. We're, monkeypox.

What the hell is monkeypox? Where did that come from? Well, it's always been around. It's just been so weak that it never manifested itself. But you globally weaken the immune system, and now you've got a weakened society without a a a strong immune system, and you're seeing the consequences of that.

So, you know, sleep first, and and and and mobility second. And I don't care how deconditioned you are. You know, you don't have to go out and and and do, like, you know, HITS, cardio, and super Spartan races. You just need to move. And 3 15 minute walks a day, apply stress to your body.

I mean, if you the the simple fact is if you wanna live a long time, lift heavy weight. No kidding. Mhmm. No question. I mean Lift heavy weight.

Lift heavy weight. Challenge your body. Tear your muscles. Buy stress to the body. Lift things that are are heavy.

No not so heavy that you hurt yourself. I don't believe in loading the spine. But, if you can walk, that's excellent for you. It's probably the most underrated exercise in the world. But if you only had time to do cardiovascular training or weight training, I would do weight training.

Right? Really? Even if it's just bodyweight exercises. No question. Because weight training beats cardiovascular training, hands down.

Muscle is not only our metabolic currency, but muscle is, in my opinion, and probably Gabriel Lyon would share this with me too, is the largest organ in the body. Like, what does muscle do that we don't know that it does? We know it holds our skeleton up and it, you know, moves our moves our bones around, but makes us look good if we're physically fit. But the truth is that muscle is a sponge for glucose. Right?

I mean, it absorbs glucose. It uses the sugar in our in our bloodstream. You wanna lower your blood sugar, move your muscles. It also holds our our skeletal system erect. The greatest risk to longevity in the elderly is frailty.

Right? That's why grip strength is is actually directly tied to longevity. No kidding. When you look no question. I mean, the the elderly, why what happens is, you know, falls are enormous risk to the elderly and to the frail.

Why do why do people start falling in older ages? Is it because they're losing their balance, or they're disoriented, or they trip more often? No. You probably had 6 incidences in the last month where you would have fallen if you didn't have the grip strength to stop yourself. Right?

But you can hold on to your door handle, you can grab the railing of a stair, you can brace yourself on the wall, and you just moved on about your day. When you're when you're frail and you can't stop the momentum of a fall, then you end up with a catastrophic injury. And then without loading our spine, without sorry, without loading our skeletal system, it begins to weaken. You know, how many of us know we used to call it the triad of death in the in the mortality space when I was doing mortality research. You know, someone would break their hip and within 36 months, they were they were dead.

Why would a hip fracture lead to early death? Because the majority of hip fractures in the elderly are not elderly people falling and breaking their hip. The majority of hip fractures in the elderly are the hip breaking, and then they fall. And there's a difference between the fracture causing the fall and the fall causing the fracture. So when your skeletal system is so weak that it can not only support its own weight, grandma's standing at the kitchen sink doing dishes and her femoral head cracks, and she falls.

And they go, oh my gosh. Grandma fell and broke her hip. No. She didn't. Her hip broke, and then she fell.

And so we we have pursued comfort so aggressively that we become so frail that we can't even essentially Wow. Protect ourselves. So so those would be my my big recommendations would be start a, you know, a process. I mean, Sardinia, for example, in the blue zones of Sardinia, their life expectancy was directly related to the grade of the slope they walked up. The steeper the slope, the longer the life expectancy.

No kidding. You got 93, 97 year old men and women walking up 30 plus degree slopes, 10 blocks to go to church, 4 blocks over to the market, 4 blocks back home. There's no such thing as elevators there. There's no such thing as assisted care living facilities. Assisted care living is mom and dad move back in with the kids until they pass away.

And what does that do? It gives mom and dad a sense of purpose. Even if their only purpose is to go out to the garden and get vegetables for that night's dinner. Right? Or they make, you know, dad's a 105 years old, and he still make belts for the community.

They have a purpose. They have actually some some some meaning. And so sense of purpose, mobility to into later in life and whole foods. That's what you get from the blue zones. We should adopt those philosophies here.

Not be dogmatic about dieting. Right? But but eat whole foods and move our ass. Right? I mean, we we regulate everything.

Our air temperature, our lighting, our temperature in our car, the temperature in our office, the temperature in our home, the you know, we if you wanna make your house the surface of the sun at 1 o'clock in the morning, you can. Just turn all the lights on. Right? I mean, it's very unnatural. We've gotten so far out of just the natural circadian rhythm of life.

So when when Jesse was or Jesse or Jessica was asking about, you know, my tips for living a long life and improving your cognitive function, it would absolutely be mobility, whole foods, focus on sleep.

Interesting. So no more escalators.

Dude, I have a thing, man. My team, like, when we travel, like, you get on an escalator, you better have a shit ton of baggage that you can't carry up the steps. Right? I can't stand it, dude.

I I won't take them just because everybody gets on and they just stand there, and the phone comes out, and they look at it.

It's like, man, I get it. Walkway. In flight.

You know? But, but,

wow. Did they just get on it, stand? Yep. Get on the escalator, stand. Literally everybody.

Do you stand? Everybody does. Yeah.

We do, like, intermittent standing. It's just great. Yep. Intermittent standing.

Well, Gary, I wanna get into your work with the insurance companies Mhmm. And and kinda what that what what kind of insurance was it? Was it life insurance?

Life insurance insurance. And annuities. Mhmm. You wouldn't believe the number of financial services instruments that are actually based on mortality. People don't realize how many how many tens of 1,000,000,000 of dollars a year of financial services products are sold and put in force based on when people are gonna die.

I mean, life insurance being the obvious, reverse mortgages, annuities, you know, so an annuity for example is you write a check to the insurance company, they guarantee you an income stream for life. What do you think they do use to guarantee how long they're gonna pay you? Your your mortality. When a life insurance company puts 10,000,000 or 25,000,000 or 50,000,000 or $1,000,000 worth of risk on your life, only 1 thing matters. How many more months do you have left on earth?

So insurance companies don't care where you are on an actuarial curve. Right? Everybody listening to this podcast is on 1. If you're a 34 year old male, you have a life expectancy of x. If you're a 51 year old female, you have a life expectancy of y.

You go apply for a jumbo life insurance policy, which is the area that I worked in, you know, above $10,000,000 on face value. If you if you ask the insurance company to put $10,000,000 or 20 or 30,000,000, 50,000,000 of risk on your life, you better believe that there's somebody in a back room. They're not putting you on an actuarial curve. They're looking at your specific mortality, telling the insurance company how many more months does this person have left on earth. And I get a lot of flack for this because people say, well, if you could predict, you know, we were talking about this earlier, if you could predict mortality to the month, you know, you would have won a Nobel Prize or you'd be Jesus, but I promise you I'm not Jesus and I've never won a Nobel Prize, but it is it is some of the most accurate science in the world.

If you wanna know how accurate insurance companies are at predicting death, just look at what happened during the 2008, 2009 financial services crisis. We had 364 banks fail. Not 1 life insurance company failed. Shit. Not 1.

Right? They're some of the most solvent institutions in the world, and yet, they will take tens of 1,000,000 of dollars worth of risk on 1 variable. How many more months do you have left on earth? If you die early, they lose. So they're very accurate at predicting life expectancy.

Well, what do they use to predict life expectancy? I'll tell you the 3 things they don't use, which is modern medicine hates this. They don't use randomized clinical trials. They don't take big pharma's trial that says that LDL cholesterol leads to cardiovascular disease, which leads to early death, and so you need to be on this this pharmaceutical. They use big data, 100 of millions of lives, and they know the day, the date, the time, the location, and the cause of death for 370 +1000000 lives.

And so when you know day, day, time, location, and cause of death, you can triangulate that back into the record. And you can say, okay, what are what are the sequence of events that lead to early death? So if I got 10 years of medical records on you and 10 years of demographic data, we could tell the insurance company how long you had to live to to the month. And and based on these life expectancies, institutions would take 100 of 1,000,000 if not 1,000,000,000 of dollars in in risk, and they were very very accurate. And so, when when you look at that data, you know, the epiphany that I had was, you know, I sort of woke up 1 day and was like, what am I doing?

You know, I'm reading medical records for a living. I've read 100, if not 1000 of times more medical records than a practicing physician because they're practicing medicine, they're not reading records, I just read records. I'm not a physician for the record, I'm not a licensed practice medicine. I'm a human biologist. But I just read medical records for a living.

1000 and thousands thousands and thousands of medical records, and we would put these into a model, and we would use it to predict the onset of death. And what became glaringly apparent was that the reason why the majority of people are not living longer, healthier, happier, more fulfilling lives are because of something called modifiable risk factors. So had it not been against the law for me to pick up the phone and contact the patient or contact the client, I could have on average added 7 years to those people's lives. No kidding. No question.

Because because we have lost faith in humanity and mankind, in the body's ability to heal itself, and and and the expression of deficiency in the body. So for example, if if you were to pull the blood of all your listeners, you'd find that there's hundreds of vitamins in their bloodstream. Their body can only make 1. When God made us, he made us with the ability to make 1 vitamin, single vitamin. So how important do you think this vitamin is to human health if it's the only 1 that we make on our own?

K. This vitamin is called vitamin d 3, called acalciferol. We make it from sunlight and cholesterol. You don't need to eat. You don't need to drink.

You don't need to do anything. You need to expose your skin to sunlight and have cholesterol in your bloodstream to make vitamin d 3. So 50% of the world's population is clinically deficient in this nutrient. 85% of the African American and Latino populations, darker complected populations, clinically deficient in this nutrient. So what happens when you're missing the most important, in my opinion, the most important single raw material in the human body?

Well, vitamin d 3 deficiency was the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID. Vitamin d 3 deficiency is highly linked to brittle bone disease, osteopenia, osteoporosis, autoimmune conditions, also compromised immune systems. And so here's a nutrient that we make on our own. It's very easy to supplement with, by the way. And deficiency in this nutrient has this all of these expressions of these different diseases.

So, you know, your listeners might not be aware that the the number 1 killer of human beings in the world is cardiovascular disease. The number 2 killer of human beings in the world is cancer. The number 3 killer of human beings in the world is modern medicine. It's medical error. Number 3?

The number 3 killer of human beings. The 3rd leading cause of death is medical error. If you wanna look look up the 2016 study, it was done by Harvard University. Just Google 2016 Harvard University, study on medical error. It was repeated by Johns Hopkins, I think in 2019, and it got worse, so they published the Harvard study.

So what does this mean? It means that medical error is the 3rd leading cause of death. And now, when you realize medical error is a third leading cause of death, it's like, wow, that's kinda shocking. Until you realize that it's the 3rd leading cause of death in the industry designed to prevent death. Like, if you translated that to any other industry, it'd be laughable.

Right? I mean, if you sold home security systems, but you were the 3rd leading cause of home invasion, you'd probably be out of business. Right? I mean, if if you were a roofer, but you were the 3rd leading cause of roof collapse, you know, it just it'd be laughable if we if we applied that to any other industry. But this is where we go to get our advice on on how to be healthy, optimally healthy, when we should be going there for catastrophic medicine.

We're very good at heart attacks, hemorrhages, know, gunshot wounds, knife wounds, broken arms. We're we're very very good at crisis medicine. What we're not good at is is, keeping people healthy. And and and and so just to take this 1 step further. So you have this nutrient, vitamin d 3, which we get from sunlight and cholesterol.

We've been totally taught to fear the sun. Right? The truth is most of us are not getting enough sun. It's not we're getting too much sun. We're not getting enough sun.

We've been taught to just absolutely shield ourself from the sun. And what's interesting, if you actually overlay the incidence of skin cancer with the parabolic rise in the use of sunscreens, these are superimposable. Right? Since 2018, 23 brands of sunscreen have been pulled from the market for directly causing skin cancer, and yet we've been taught to feel the sun. And so we don't get sunlight, our d 3 drops.

You know, like, we we developed sayings around this, like, don't go outside in the wintertime, you'll catch a cold. Okay. There's no such thing as catching a cold. First of all, that's a fallacy. Going outside in the wintertime is substantially safer than going outside in the summertime, because there's a lot more pathogens in warm weather than there are in cold weather.

There's not bacteria lying around the surface of a 15 degree handrail waiting to infect you. The reason why we associate cold with getting sick is because when it's cold, we layer up. When we layer up, we get less sun. When we get less sun, our d 3 drops. When our d 3 drops, our immune system's compromised.

So Wow.

Yeah. So Wow. It's, it's it's just the opposite. It's the antithetical way that we've been taught to think.

What is this how is this is this through marketing? Is that is that how we've been taught?

Think about it. Yeah. Absolutely. It's through marketing. You know, a lot of this is fear based marketing.

I mean, I mean, I don't wanna get cancer. So I'm gonna put, bisphenols and and, phthalates and all kinds of things on my skin to stop the sun from from reaching my skin. But you gotta realize, your skin is not a barrier. It's a gateway. So if you put it on your skin, you should be prepared to eat it.

I wouldn't put anything on your skin that you wouldn't eat. And so when you think about the amount of disruption that comes from chemicals just being on the skin entering the bloodstream, it can wreaks all kinds of havoc. But what I saw in in when I was at the insurance agent, when I was in the mortality space, was in the record you would see this clinical deficiency in vitamin d 3, long term deficiencies in vitamin d 3. You could see it in the blood. Eventually, these people will present with rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms.

So what happens when you have a clinical deficiency in vitamin d 3 for a prolonged period of time? Well, your immune system's compromised, first of all. The second thing that happens is you start to develop rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms. The soles of your feet are sore and ache when you get out of bed in the morning to walk to the bathroom and take your first pee. You wake up in the morning, you feel like you had a really hard workout the night before when you haven't.

Your your knees, your hips, your shoulders, and your low back start to ache constantly. Eventually, it's hard to even make a really tight fist. Well, if you go to the wrong primary care physician and you describe those symptoms, they're gonna tell you that you have rheumatoid arthritis. Do you know how many thousands of times I saw diagnoses of chronic condition like rheumatoid arthritis with no testing, no RA factors, no blood work, no said rates? They would just say, you know what, Sean?

Based on what you're telling me, you've got rheumatoid arthritis. But don't worry. I'm gonna put you on a corticosteroid. K? And then a corticosteroid, not steroid like muscles, a steroid for any inflammation like methotrexate or prednisone or methylprednisone.

So now they put you on a steroid. The sad thing is for a period of time, it works. Pain goes away. Right? But steroids, first, they're anti inflammatory, but then they eat your joint like a termite.

So it was so predictable that we knew that 6 years and 1 day after you started taking corticosteroids, you were gonna have a joint replacement. And as soon as you had a joint replacement, you were gonna reduce your ability to be mobile. As your mobility reduced, I could bring in all the diseases that exacerbate with reduced mobility. So now you had a vitamin d 3 deficiency, got diagnosed with a disease you didn't have, put on a medication that wasn't required. 6 years later, forced a surgery that was unnecessary.

That surgery reduced your mobility. As your mobility dropped, all the diseases came from your future to your present. You succumbed to a disease you never would have had because of a condition that you did not have, because of medication that wasn't required, because of a simple nutrient deficiency.

Holy shit. So it's a snowball effect.

It's a snowball effect. But had I been able to pick up the phone I get goosebumps even just telling you the stories, but, because I I think about it a lot. You know, had I been able to just pick up the phone and call these people and say, hey. Listen. I'm not a doctor.

Stop taking the Methotrexate. Take 5,000 IU of vitamin d 3 with 80 micrograms of k 2. Weigh 3 bucks. You know, then then I could have a demonstrative impact on these people's lives. And so, at some point I just I just abruptly resigned from that industry, and I went home and told my girlfriend at the time, who's now my wife, I said, hey.

I'm I'm gonna quit my job today, first of all. Thought I'd throw that at you. And, I wanna start a wellness clinic. I wanna start a functional medicine clinic. She's like, you're not even a doctor.

I was like, I'll find a doctor. And I did. Doctor Camberborn, if you're listening in in, in Naples, Florida. He was he was 1 of the longest practicing anesthesiologists in Naples, Florida. And thank god for him because he took a he took a bet on me.

You know, if you don't mind, I'd like to divulge a little bit more into that because, Sure. And and and we don't have to. I don't, you know, we don't want to. But but when I went on your podcast, you kinda told me the story a little bit more in-depth, and and I just wanna say, like, it's very commendable and and, very noble of of you how you left the insurance company. Yeah.

And, it sound like it came down to a single patient, or maybe not a patient, but a a 1 of the insurance customers. And so could you go into that a little bit more in-depth?

Yeah. It's a tough 1. But I was working on a case on a woman that was getting a she was she had a large life insurance policy. She was actually selling. And, she was transferring care between cardiologists.

She was in the Midwest, and she was, transferring to her winter home in Miami. And, there's something called the Medical Information Bureau, and it's meant to catch, like, people that are pain medication surfing, narcotics surfing, or or or or contraindications between meds. And the physician in, Miami had put a script into the record that was a contraindication, meaning it was gonna cause a a a high chance of causing a thrombolytic event, like a blood clot, stroke, an embolism. And, and so I saw what she was taking. Saul was waiting for her.

And so I went into human resources, you know, at the time and and said, hey. I'm I'm contacting this lady. Right? I mean, we were not allowed to have any contact with the client, the applicant, the treating physician for the right reason. Again, I'm not licensed to practice medicine.

So, you know, having me call up and try to make an opinion on their medical care isn't isn't right. But they were very, not only disinterested in having me contact that patient, I got threatened with prosecution. And, so I knew at some point that this lady was gonna get on a plane, go to her winter home. She's gonna pick up that script, and she was gonna have a thrombolytic event. So she was gonna either have an embolism, blood clot, you know, stroke, some kind of clotting event, and and just the callousness with which I was told not to contact the patient and and, you know, that I would be potentially prosecuted if I if I did, that was the final straw for me.

That that's really what forced my resignation. And I think about that lady a lot. I still to this day don't know what happened. I don't know if the physician caught it, but I also think about how many years I gave to that industry, and I was just so myopic. You know, I was I was very selfish.

I was just concerned about trying to be wealthy and, you know, and, I was doing very well in that industry. So I had kind of a lot of accolades and and things, but I was doing nothing in service for humanity. You know, I had real knowledge on how to help people live healthier, happier, longer, you know, more fulfilling lives, and I was just watching these train wrecks happen. It was like it was like sitting behind a thick glass wall and just watching blind people walk into traffic. And and when you read a certain number of medical records, you see these patterns start to emerge, and you're like, you could just start the record, and you just knew exactly where the record was gonna end.

Like, oh, here comes the joint replacement. Oh, here comes they're they're on the they're on the beta blocker. There comes the blood thinner, and the next thing to follow is the antidepressant because of the cholesterol medication. And now they're on an SSRI, and then it comes to suicidal ideations. There comes the therapy.

Like, you could you could just map out the consequences in in the medical record and say, gosh, this person had a little bit of elevated level of LDL cholesterol, then they got then they got put on a a statin. It started to drive the cholesterol down. Then then the brain fog and the short term recall and the and the cognitive function starts to decline, and then the depression starts to creep in, and now they're on an SSRI. And as they become less mobile, their hematocrit viscosity of their blood seem to to to to go up. So then they're on a blood thinner, and the pressure starts to rise.

And then they're on a a beta blocker, an ACE inhibitor, or calcium channel blocker. And the next thing you know, it's just this massive chemical soup. Right? Just trying to regulate all of these processes in the body. Trying to regulate blood pressure over here, and mood over here, and blood viscosity over here, and pain over here, and cholesterol over here.

And nobody's ever really studied the the consequences of putting all of this into the same biome. We study things in isolation in medicine very often. You know, randomized clinical trials are isolated trials where we're only looking at 1 medication for 1 outcome in a control group, but we're actually not studying human beings or their cells in the environment that they exist. Right? These cells exist in communities.

You can't take cell out of the body, put it in a petri dish, look how it behaves in a lab, and then assume when you put that cell back into the body that it's gonna behave the same way. Nothing is further from the truth. And this is why we run-in these 20 year cycles, where we we do a randomized clinical trial, drug gets approved, we we push the drug on the market, then 10 years later, we realize we made a really grave mistake. We got 100 of thousands of people dying from this drug. We got 100 of 1,000 people now addicted to this drug, and now they can't get the drugs.

So now they're on the street. Like, they say that opiates is a is a rich man's addiction, and heroin's a poor man's addiction. And and it's very true. You know, a lot of people didn't they didn't wake up 1 day and decide they were gonna be an addict. They woke up 1 day and wanted to feel normal.

And in the search for normalcy, they developed an addiction. And now they're running from a low, they're not running towards a high. So most and and so I saw these cycles, and I was like, this shit is all wrong. I mean, you know, if if we could if I could have just picked up the phone and called half of these people and said, you you you need to you need to stop taking this, in my opinion. Stop thinking the corn goes through.

Get get off the statin because we we use big data. So there was a lot of, popularity of marginally increased levels, for example, of LDL cholesterol, which has been vilified, in my opinion, wrongfully. You know, and and if you had high levels of LDL cholesterol, you are automatically had this crazy risk high risk for cardiovascular disease. So we would smash the cholesterol down in these really low numbers. We'd put you on all kinds of, cholesterol mitigating drugs.

And what we would see, not infrequently, in in nearly every case, is you would downstream, you would see the consequences of not having this this, compound in the body. Cholesterol, by the way, is made by the liver. 85% of cholesterol in your blood is manufactured by the liver. It doesn't come from diet. Only 15% of cholesterol in your blood comes from diet.

And most people don't realize that cholesterol is not a fuel source. It's it's a construction material. We use it to build every cell wall, every cell membrane. We use to make hormones. We use to make vitamin d 3.

We make, choloccalciferol from cholesterol. So when you drive this down, the brain the majority of the brain is cholesterol. All of a sudden, you start to see cognitive impairment. You see erectile dysfunction. You see hormone dysregulation.

Why? Because you make hormones from cholesterol. And yet, we're linking it to cardiovascular disease, but but there there's no clinical evidence that it just seems to jump out of the bloodstream and magically stick to the arterial wall or magically pass through the arterial wall. It has to be called to that location. There has to be an inflammatory cycle.

There has to be something that initiates its arrival. You know, cholesterol is kinda like the fireman. It shows up when there's a fire. It gets called to the site of inflammation. It didn't start the fire.

So the notion that if we had fewer firemen, we'd have less fires doesn't make any sense. But that's what modern medicine would want you to believe, that if we had fewer firemen, we'd have fewer fires. That's not true. And so we found no correlation between elevated levels of LDL cholesterol and, cardiovascular disease or early death. In fact, we found the opposite.

We found in most of the centenarians, in fact, all the centenarian death claims that I processed, people living above age 100, without an exception in my career, they had clinically elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death, because many of them died in nursing homes when we had blood work on them. So if people that had the highest cholesterol were living the longest, then why are we trying to push this compound down? Well, I mean, cholesterol medication is 1 of the most profitable pharmaceutical compounds, but until the vaccine came along, 1 of the most profitable compounds to ever hit modern humanity. I mean, in in in the fifties sixties, the, you know, cholesterol levels were in the 2 sixties. That was the optimal level of cholesterol.

So if you were to ask me, what's the optimal level cholesterol today? 260. But what do what do lab results say? Well, LDL cholesterol shouldn't be above, you know, 99. As soon as it gets above 99, you get to a 120, you're on statin.

And now you're taking away 1 of the compounds that not only forms the brain, but produces inflammation, which repairs damage in the body, which makes hormones, which makes, cell walls and cell membranes and vitamin d 3, and you're and you're getting rid of it. Well, there's consequences to that. Right? So this is what I mean. It's like we've gotten so far away.

We've we've created an industrial complex that is built on a profit center of disease. You know, type 2 diabetes in the United States is a $110,000,000,000 industry. 110,000,000,000, in profit a year from type 2 diabetes. So just imagine whether or not there's there's a meeting going on in some boardroom to to put that industry out of business. There's not.

Right? We want people to suffer over a prolonged period of time. We don't want you to die early. We want you to suffer for a prolonged period of time. And if you look at how pharmaceuticals have crept into the hamster wheel of society, at younger and younger and younger and younger ages now, we start we start on the hamster wheel of of of of pharma.

You come out of the womb, and you have barely even taken your first breath. You got erythromycin in your eyes, and you're being given a hepatitis b vaccine. Well, what's hepatitis b? It's a sexually transmitted virus, or it's transmitted through intravenous drug usage. What are the chances that a newborn fetus is going to be having sexual intercourse or using IV drugs?

None. What are the incidences of hepatitis b in in in, prepubescent, teens all the way down to infants 0. Unless the mother had it at birth, which you know, because you can tissue type them. And I can give you hundreds of examples like this, but we we have we have just bathed our cellular biology in a toxic soup. We we are on the the the pharma bandwagon from the time we come out out of the womb.

I think there's 79 vaccines on the vaccine schedule now. This time in the fifties, there was 8. We have pandemics of autism, pandemics of chronic disease. We spend 4 and a half $1,000,000,000,000 a year on health care, and we are the sickest, fattest, most disease ridden nation on the planet. We lead the world not only in medical care spending, but we lead the world in 6 major categories, infant mortality, maternal mortality, the lowest life expectancy at birth of any other civilized nation, the next 60 civilized nations.

We lead the world in morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, and multiple chronic disease in a single biome. And yet we spend 4 and a half $1,000,000,000,000 a year on health care. 77%. By the way, I will I I will put the links to any of these quotes that I say, because we're gonna get hammered for this by the media. If if if I make any 1 of these statements, I mean, I'm I'm gonna give you the links, you can put it in the show notes.

Thank you. Right from the Department of Defense, 77% of our military age men and women cannot pass a simple physical exam to enter the military. 77%. That means 3 quarters of our military age population cannot serve in the military, because they are not physically capable of entering military service Wow. Passing a basic exam.

Wow. Why is that? I mean, how did we get so deconditioned? How why is it that the majority of, of teenagers can't do a 30 second dead hang, can't sit on a 1 foot high box jump and stand up, can't run a mile in less than a 9 minutes, can't do 20 unbroken push ups or 20 unbroken sit ups, it's it's because we are aggressively pursuing, you know, comfort. So I don't know how I got down this this this tangent.

I got on a real soapbox there, and I apologize. But what's happening now is, like and I think this happens in all areas of society. It's like the pendulum just swings too far, and I think people say, enough. Right? I mean, pretty soon, when we don't have any men and women, they're physically capable of entering the military, or when we realize we have the highest rate of childhood cancer in recorded history, when we realize that for the first time in recorded history, our life expectancy is going backwards, then somebody will take a hold of our public policy and begin to implement the kind of simple changes that could save us from this pathway that we're on right now, which includes a lot of things like getting rid of the corruption in our, our, you know, our research institutions.

I mean 93% of of of of the FDA's board has a conflicts of interest with big pharma and big food. When you look at our nutritional research, 74% of this is funded by food and pharma, which is why Lucky Charms is is shown to be more nutritious than grass fed steak. It's why they say that highly processed foods, we don't have enough data to say whether or not highly processed foods are having a, you know, negative effect on on society. So we highly highly process our our our foods. And and and and yet we have an industry that is profiting 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars on the backs of the pandemic of disease that this this, you know, food supply creates.

And so, by getting us back to the basics, we can circumvent that entire system.

You know, I mean, I'm gonna plug something. Okay. And, I don't get paid for this. We we had a conversation downstairs about about plugs and elements and all that kind of stuff, and, I just wanna say, you know, what you told me. I mean, for anybody listening, Gary is 1 of the most authentic people I've ever met.

And, you you stand behind every product, and we had a long conversation about that downstairs. And and, you know, I've been talking about this YouGov. I think I brought it up on your podcast, and I brought it up on Mhmm. Joe's pod Joe Rogan's podcast. And I actually reached out to try to partner with them, and they they don't have the funding to to do it.

But I don't I don't fucking care, man, because whatever they're doing, you know, is it's helping edgy reeducate the population about Yes. You know, hey. This is all the shit that's in your food. All you have to do is download that app. It's free.

You scan a barcode, and it first thing it tells you is, these are all the additives. This is what it does in your this is what it does, and, you you know, and then all the other health stuff is below the additives. But I've been me and my wife redid our entire kitchen on that, and it's just a great way to educate the population. And I know that's, I mean, that's your whole it's what you do, and, you do wanna help people. And so I just I wanna plug that.

But but moving on, you know, you we were just talking about vaccinations in kids, and this is something that my wife and I go round and round about. We don't know what to do. We don't know who to trust. Mhmm. We ever since COVID, I have I have 0 0 confidence in anything that the US government tells me.

Nothing. Yeah. In fact, it's so bad, and I know this isn't the right thing to do, but it's almost like I do the opposite. It's like, they say do this, fuck that, I'm doing this.

Yeah. Yeah.

You know? Like, they're obviously lying, I'm not doing it. Mhmm. You know? Oh, you say that's good for me, it's probably fucking horrible.

Right. And, you know, but but with that being said, it's it's it's atrocious. Nobody really knows where to find truth in in in a variety of of of topics and genres. And Mhmm. But at the forefront of all of this, in my family, because I have 2 little kids, and, we don't know what to do with the vaccinations.

Yeah. And I'll send you

a good book on on on the good vaccine schedule. I mean,

what what is are there any good vaccines?

Yes. So first of all, you know, we have to take a step back for a second. And and and the way we before COVID, the way we defined vaccines was, you know, these these were designed to prevent the infection and the spread, which initially we were told it would prevent the infection. Then we're like, oh, people are still getting COVID. And then we were told it would prevent the spread.

And then we're like, oh, well, that's still spreading COVID. And then we said it would reduce the severity of symptoms, and then we actually found out that it didn't. And so we used to make vaccines. So first of all, vaccine used to prevent the infection and prevent the spread. If you get the polio vaccine, you not only don't catch polio, you also don't spread polio.

Right? But, so we redefined that to mean that it it prevented the severity of symptoms from, you know, from that virus. The other thing we used to do is we used to make vaccines, in some in some cases we still do, out of what's called attenuated viruses. You know, virus is not a living thing. It's it's it's an envelope.

Right? Like a nucleocapsid protein. So imagine an envelope, and it has DNA inside of it. K? But it's not living.

What it needs to do is it needs to go up to a cell, a healthy cell, and sort of attach to that cell and inject its DNA. K? When the it's it's it's like a zombie on us. I mean, it's pretty pretty medieval. Attaches to the cell, injects its DNA, and sort of takes over the function of that cell.

Now that cell is infected. So what we used to do is we would attenuate the viruses. We would take the DNA out. Right? And then we would still put the envelope into your body, and so we would put the polio virus in your body without the DNA.

So you couldn't actually catch polio, but your immune system would see that that envelope, that nuclear capsid protein. It would manufacture an antibody. So then we said, somebody with been pharma came up with the idea that we could do them cheaper and in mass if we actually made synthetic copies of the DNA. So just if you if you if you just a quick basic lesson on cellular biology. If you if you look at a cell, if you go through the wall of a cell and you cross the cytoplasm, you find the nucleus.

Inside the nucleus is the DNA. And the DNA is the boss. That's the head honcho. Right? The CEO.

DNA is running the show. It has 2 broad, roles. 1 is replication. It makes an exact copy of itself. K?

But the other 1 is called transcription. It literally writes messages into the cell. It tells the cell what to do. Just like the CEO has given orders to the board and all of the minions in the company, it's telling everybody what to do. The DNA is doing that through.

2, It's sending messages from the nucleus of the cell out into the cell to tell the cell organelles what to do. Those messages are called mRNA, messenger RNA. K? When they're organic, they leave the nucleus. They go into the cytoplasm of the cell, and they give a command, and they essentially dissolve.

What we did was we made a synthetic copy of that message. And I haven't I'm I'm not currently up to all of the research, but I know that, we have been able to pick up those synthetic copies at least 2 years after being vaccinated. So what does this mean? It means that the message to make the spike protein, which would normally come from the DNA, has been synthetically copied. And so that message goes to the cell, and it says, make the spike protein.

You make a little spike protein. That organelle comes back to its desk. The message is still there. Make the spike protein. It comes back to its desk.

Make the spike protein, comes back to its desk. Make the spike protein. Make the spike protein. Make the spike protein, which spills through the cytoplasm of the cell, out into the serum of the blood, can embed itself into the arterial wall, causes a diffuse myriad of symptoms called diffuse vasculitis, which is essentially a term for or dystonia vasculitis, inflammation of the blood vessel. It can also cause things like thrombolytic thrombocytopenia, which is abnormal platelet clotting.

It shows up generally in the heart first because this is the most bio you know, this is the most active area of the body. So you get myocarditis, pericarditis, which is the first symptoms that we saw. But now we're seeing downstream consequences because what happens when you take the surface area of the lining of your blood vessel? Most people think that the skin is the largest organ in the body. The skin has the surface area of about half a tennis court.

The inside lining of your blood vessel, of which you have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body, has the surface area of about 6 tennis courts. So it's 12 times the surface area. So what if you get inflammation in all of this surface area? Well, now, you've interrupted the most important barrier in the body. The you cannot get contents from the blood, nutrients from the blood into the tissue.

You can't get waste from the tissue back into the blood. So this exchange leads to this diffuse myriad of symptoms, which we are not linking, in my opinion, to the vaccine. Imagine the vaccine being the hub of the wheel, and you have all of these symptoms. You have mood disorders. You have cardiovascular conditions, trigeminal neuralgias, transverse myelitis.

You have hormone imbalances. So you have all of these spokes, right, leaving the hub of the wheel. But what's the commonality between them? And, you know, now we have conditions we're calling long COVID, which I think is synonymous with vaccine injury. And and so we have this diffuse myriad of downstream consequences where people have mood numbness, weight gain, water retention, joint pain, neurological symptoms, memory loss, impaired focus and concentration, mental, conditions, which we're diagnosing as other mental illnesses, fatigue.

And then we throw these blanket diagnosis at them, like chronic fatigue syndrome or fibromyalgia. And we're not linking this back to, the vaccine, which very often it can be. So the whole point with the vaccines is, I sort of felt like this was like a gene experiment, almost, like, because we were we're we're we're copying the the the DNA, and using a synthetic copy of that to send a message without knowing what the long term consequences of that were. Now I'm not qualified to make that statement either for the record, because we don't have enough data, but neither is anyone else. There's no scientist on the planet that can tell you what the long term consequences of mRNA vaccination is because we just don't have the data.

Operation Warp Speed waived the safety trials. It didn't waive the development of the vaccine. It waived the safety trials that normally protect the public from these things being released before we actually have a suitable data set. And, again, I'm not pointing the the finger on these. You know, we're in a pandemic.

I assume everybody was trying to do the right thing. But this is why we have such a distrust for the elites now because we realized, hey, maybe they don't have our best interests at heart. And this is why I'm saying that, you know, I believed more at the time in what God gave us than what man made us. I was like, well, what is the mortality rate? Well, the the the the survival rate of this is like 99.7%.

I mean, so they they they a 100% don't have our best interest. We just went over those with the insurance companies. You know? They're they're

the Well, they definitely don't.

You know? So, I mean, they're the elites. Yeah. They do not have our best interest.

You know, it it's I I I sit on the board of the NFL Alumni Association Athletica, and and, there's, like, 20 20 or 22,000 members in in the NFL Alumni Association. These are retired NFL athletes. I remember when the when it when the pandemic first started, and I was like, k. This is a very nonscientific, non, nonmedical opinion, but, you know, there are nose tackles, retired nose tackles that I know, that I've met. These guys are 6 feet 6, 6 foot 7 inches tall.

They walk around about £320. And and I also had a 5 year old niece who's £47. I go, you will never convince me that these 2 people get the exact same dose of the exact same thing and have the exact same reaction. This guy looks like he ate a water buffalo for lunch. You know, she's £47.

You mean I put the same thing into both of their bodies and they and they both have the same reaction, same amount, same bodies, same reaction. You'll never convince me of that. That was that was just my initial, you know, filter. I hadn't even dug really into the science, and then I just went deep down the rabbit hole of the science of the spike proteins and and synthetic messaging and and, you know, really didn't like what I see. But, again, I'm not a physician, not a virologist.

Not really qualified to take that position. So I didn't vaccinate the family or let any of the people that I loved get get get anywhere near it. And I started messaging people about, listen, you guys should be taking zinc, methylated multivitamins, high doses of vitamin d 3, getting sunlight, moving your body, you know, hydrating your body, building building the defense mechanisms that the body has. Because in my opinion, that's our best way to, you know, combat what what was going on. It turns out that herd immunity actually turned out to be what ended the pandemic.

I mean, what what what would your advice for for for for parents be like me? I mean, here here's what I deal with. We go to the pediatrician. They tell us, you have to get these vaccines or we won't see your kids.

I know.

Now my kid's not in network. What the fuck am I supposed to do if he gets really sick or he breaks his arm? Or where am I going? Yeah. Well, that's Nobody will take me.

That's the shame because Because majority of that pediatrician's office revenue is driven by those vaccine visits because they're on the schedule. So they know every kid is gonna have a certain number of visits, that that that they can bill for. And and they bill those those visits for vaccinations, then they shame parents and, you know, through the public school system and through, you know, the pedia your pediatrician will shame you into what's not doing the right thing for your kid. But when you start to drill into, well, why was my infant given a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease that's also transmitted by intravenous drug use when the mother didn't have that hepatitis b at the you know, the tissue typed my wife, the the viral test of my wife, she didn't have hep b. Why did why'd you vaccinate my kid against the non statistically nonviable risk?

A lot of these, the same thing is true with with tetanus. I mean, if you look at the at, the the number of, kids or or or sub 45 year olds, I actually think it's sub 72 year olds, that have died from a cut from a rusty nail, it's 0. You you you the to to see any statistical validity, you gotta be over 70 to 75 years old. We're we're vaccinating against these. Why are we vaccinating against, shingles?

Shingles is not something that you catch. It's not a virus that you catch. It's a virus you've always had. It's it's, shingles is is, you know, mono as a child, coming back as as shingles. Just like Epstein Barr is not a virus that you catch.

Epstein Barr is, I'm sorry. Epstein Barr was, mono as a child, coming back as Epstein Barr. Shingles is chickenpox that you had as a child coming back as as shingles. So I think a lot of times we're led to believe that we catch these viruses, that these viruses happen to us. They don't.

They happen within us. If you look at a strand of human DNA, only only 60% of an average strand of human DNA is human. 40% of our DNA is viral. 40% of every 1 of our DNA strands is viral. So what does this mean?

It means that every time your DNA unzips and rezips, we silence those viruses. How is it that you could have had mono in 8th grade? And I can still tell when you're 50 years old that you had mono. So I can actually look for the antibodies. I can look for something called IgG antibodies.

What are those antibodies doing? And and so what happens is that when the DNA unzips and it rezips, those viruses are silenced. What happens is our immune system weakens. As our immune system weakens, we become more susceptible to these viruses not happening to us, happening within us. So when our immune system is weak, wow, we get shingles.

We didn't catch shingles. We always had it. It was the chicken pox virus. We got Epstein Barr. And what happened?

How did I get Epstein Barr? Well, mono came back as Epstein Barr. I assume you could go through a whole sequence of these. So by strengthening the immune system is the best way to build immunity to these, pathogens. You know, when you weaken the immune system, you start to come up with things like autoimmune disease.

You know, if if you if you have an autoimmune condition, for example, what let's say, Hashimoto's or, Crohn's disease or chagrins or any number of autoimmune diseases. What you're led to believe is you woke up 1 day and your immune system decided to attack this tissue in the body. So if you have Crohn's disease, for example, you woke up 1 day and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to the colon. Well, why did my immune system just decide to attack the colon? First of all, I think we should take a step back and say, I'm gonna assume that God didn't make a mistake.

I'm actually gonna assume that the immune system's acting properly. And I just need to figure out why is it attacking the colon. I'm not just gonna assume that my immune system went haywire 1 morning and just decided to attack my colon. Or went haywire 1 day and decided to attack my thyroid, now I have Hashimoto's, or attack my lacrimal gland in my eye and I've got chagrin. What I'm gonna assume is the immune system is there for a reason, and I wanna figure out why it's there.

And if you look at functional medicine, a lot of functional medicine doctors will tell you, and again, I'm not a physician, that there is only a single cell layer separating you from your inside world from your outside world. So your intestinal tract is outside of your body. The tube runs through your body, but it's external to your body. It's actually contiguous with the back of your forearm. You could follow the skin inside your mouth all the way down and right out the rectum.

So what separates you from your outside world is a single layer of cells. 1 1 cell layer. If this cell layer is disrupted, contents from your gut will leak through the gut, and they will get into it's called leaky gut. They will get into an area of the body, the outside the luminal wall of the gut or into the bloodstream where it doesn't belong. And where's your immune system?

70% of our immune system is sitting right outside of our gut. And the reason why 70% of our immune system is sitting right here is because that's where all the action is. And so if you have leaky gut and you have pathogens and bacteria and contents from the gut leaking into the bloodstream, the immune system shows up. And when something hides in your like like, just to sort of give you a a visual. If if this is a heavy metal, or a virus, or a pathogen, k, and it's gonna hide.

Right? It's and it leaks out of your gut. And this is a healthy cell. It doesn't park itself next to the cell like this. It parks itself right there.

It hides inside the cell. So what happens when you have these contents move into a cell? The immune system is chasing that. Right? Now it's inside the cell, so what does it do?

It manufactures an antibody to that cell. Not to kill the cell, but to get to that. Right? So if you help the body find this, the heavy metal, the mold spore, the mycotoxin, the virus, the bacteria, and you support the immune system and seal and heal the gut, you see very often these these autoimmune diseases that people are diagnosed with, where they're put on immunosuppressants and they're put on massive amounts of corticosteroids or or or or or steroid anti inflammatories, is because we're holding the immune system responsible for a crime it didn't commit. It's actually there acting in your best interest, and we're suppressing it.

So, you know, in in Crohn's disease, and I'm not saying this for all Crohn's disease, I don't know why I just picked that 1, but, you know, you you you interrupt the integrity of the gut, pathogens leak out, the immune system attacks them, and now we go that you've got an autoimmune disease.

Wow.

Instead of saying, hey, listen. Why don't we do the viral testing, the bacterial testing? Why don't we do why don't we actually heal and seal and fix your gut? And and and we know now, for example, that the gut is the gateway. It's the the see, we even call it our second brain.

And the reason why we call it our second brain is because our mood and our emotional state, our focus, our concentration, our awareness, our alertness, these are controlled, amongst other things, by neurotransmitters in our brain. The majority of which are made in our gut. You know, for decades we we followed something called the serotonin hypothesis of depression. So the serotonin hypothesis of depression, which was the widely dominant hypothesis in depression was, if you are low on serotonin, you are by definition depressed. Okay.

So if the definition of depression is low serotonin, then why isn't the fix to raise serotonin? Right? Because that's not what we do. For the most people that are depressed, we put them on selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. We put them on SSRIs.

And SSRIs, for lack of better words, they bind to a receptor in the brain. They slow the uptake of of of serotonin. So basically, they're rationing what little serotonin you have. So it's a form of rationing. So because it's it's not allowing the brain to uptake it.

And the theory is, well, if you don't use it too fast, you don't go off a cliff. Right? But if we just took a step back and said, well, where's serotonin come from? Well, 90% of the serotonin in our bodies is in our is right here. If you don't have it here, you can't have it here.

So is it possible that depression actually begins here rather than in our outside environment? Interesting. Right? And so if 90% of the serotonin, which by the way travels up the vagus nerve, goes into the brain, creates mood, creates emotion. If you said to me, what's a mood?

What's an emotional state? I would tell you it's a collection of neurotransmitters. If you're deficient in a neurotransmitter, you can't manufacture a mood. And now you have a mood disorder. You have a mental illness.

You don't have a mental illness. You have a deficiency. Right? If I if I went to any of the pod Anybody who's listening to this podcast right now just magically sucked the dopamine out of their body or sucked the the, I sucked the serotonin neurotransmitter out of their body. Any mood that required that neurotransmitter, they couldn't manufacture.

Well, they would be told that they had a mental illness, or they had a mental disease, or they had a mood disorder. The truth is they have a deficiency. Why wouldn't we look to fix the gut to restore the serotonin, so that the brain has adequate levels, so you can express normal mood? Instead of just slotting people into these categories and saying, you're mentally ill, you're mentally unstable, you have a mood disorder. As soon as you say that to somebody, they accept that.

And now they accept that they need to be on a lifetime of medication, because something's wrong with their brain. Or, you know, or something has happened to them that they can't control. Right? And people are walking around suffering from anxiety, from depression. No 1 even tells them what it is.

You know, I I I bet there's a vast percentage of your listeners that at some point in their life have either they either are suffering from, or they know somebody who's suffering from severe anxiety. And I bet they don't have never even been told what it is. They'll you ask most, practitioners, you know, most physicians what's anxiety. They're gonna tell you that they're gonna tell you the characteristics of it. It's a sensation of fear without the presence of a fear.

It's a sensation of impending doom without there actually being a threat. You know, I'm I'm I'm taking a scenario in the future to worst case scenario when when that scenario has never happened. Well, those are all the characteristics of it. The truth is anxiety, at its genesis, is a rise in a class of neurotransmitters called catecholamines, which creates a fight or flight like response. So if you were able to regulate catecholamines, you wouldn't feel fear.

Right? If you ask most people that suffer from anxiety 3 questions, you'll find out very quickly that it's a deficiency and not coming from their outside environment. You know someone that's suffering from anxiety and you say, have you had it on and off throughout your entire lifetime? They'll say yes. If you say, can you point to the specific trigger that causes it?

They'll say no. I can be sitting in a podcast right now with Sean Ryan, and I can just all of a sudden be overwhelmed by anxiety. And number 3, if you say, well, if you've tried anti anxiety medications, did they work? They'll say, no. They made me feel like a zombie.

You get those questions, you know that it's not coming from the outside environment. It's coming from right here.

Wow. Wow. So real real quick, just rewinding. What what advice do you have for parents like me on vaccinations?

I'm gonna put a link, because it's gonna be too much to go on here. I'm gonna put a link to a vaccine schedule, a book that was written by, in my opinion, 1 of the top MDs, PhDs in the world on what are the what are the viable vaccines and what are the ones, to avoid. So you just take his, opinion, and he's got all the research and all the cited things, and let's just put it in the show notes so you're all all the families can

have it.

Do you know the name of the book? It's it's, it's either called Bornimmune. I think it's called Bornimmune. We'll text you then. It's either Bornimmune or Born Immunity, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put the link in.

It's it's it's excellent, and it's all evidence based, and it's not fear mongering, and it gives you the actual statistical variables, like, you have a point you have a like, if you get this vaccination, your son or daughter has a higher chance of dying in a motor vehicle accident on the way to school than they do of of dying from this pathogen. So you decide if you wanna vaccinate against it or not. Because some of the things that we're vaccinating again are statistically completely irrelevant. Right? There's you have a near 0 risk.

We don't vaccinate against near 0 risks. There's a risk every time you put your child in the car and go to the grocery store, there's a risk. You know, every time you get in a commercial airplane, there's a risk. It's a quantifiable risk. But you you we should apply the same kind of just common sense standard to vaccination.

Another question, follow-up question. Lot of people took the COVID vaccine. Lot of people regret taking the COVID vaccine. I can't even believe I'm men admitting this. I took the COVID vaccine.

I was worried. My son was about to be born. Hospital rules. I was like, there is no way in hell I'm gonna miss the birth of my son. Mhmm.

So I took it. Mhmm. Because I was worried I would they would they were required, and I would miss the birth of my son. And with all the other shit I've done in my life, I went into the drugs, all that stuff on your podcast.

You know,

I was like, well, if that didn't kill me, this isn't gonna fucking kill me. Right. But, you know and I don't feel I don't feel like I have any side effects.

Mhmm. And most people don't. I mean, just if you got 1 or 2 and didn't go down the sequence of boosters, it's very likely that you're you're you're fine, but I can tell you what you can do.

So what I wanna ask is is there is there any reversing that? Is there anything that people can do? I've I've heard a lot about this, actually, I'm gonna go do plasma exchange.

Mhmm.

There'll be

a plasma exchange.

And, is is there anything people can do to clean their blood or or clean their system out with with with with prior vaccinations?

Yeah. So so there are less expensive versions, and there are very expensive versions. Plasma exchange is is expensive. That's called therapeutic plasma exchange or total plasma exchange, and essentially what they do there, and I've had it done, it feels amazing by the way, is they they pull your blood out, they run it through a machine, they separate your plasma from your whole blood, and they actually take your plasma out and they replace it with sterile albumin. And so you actually replace the plasma with albumin, which is a a a sterile fluid that's safe to replace your plasma with.

Because in your plasma, aside from platelets and other things, are mold spores, mycotoxins, if you have them, viral pathogens, heavy metals, glyphosate, you'll you'll find, microplastics, and also spike protein. So there are lots of things in your in your plasma that kind of hang out in the plasma that can be pro inflammatory and cause consequences down the road. And by exchanging the plasma, the the theory is that,

you can get rid of a

lot of those consequences. There is also doctor McCullough, formulated a an over the counter capsule that has Hato Kinase, bromelain, and thymeline in it, which are are very safe, and these are ways of of binding spike protein and carrying it out of the body. You can actually see urinary spike protein levels drop after taking these, and they're they're inexpensive. They're regular over the counter, and there are formulations for spike protein detox. You can even Google spike protein detox, and you'll find ones with a nattokinase, bromelain, and the thymolininum.

Those are those are the higher quality spike protein, detoxifications. And you can do pre and post, urine spike protein analyzes, and you can actually see that you've you've you've reduced it. Wow. If you have severe long hauler COVID syndrome, and this is not FDA approved, but it's I've seen the clinical evidence on it. There are clinics outside the United States, some in Tijuana, other parts of the world, where you can do a blood filtration, which is similar to, very similar to, dialysis.

Right? Where you take blood out of 1 side of the body, you put it back in the other body, and it either runs through carbon filtration or heparin binding filters, or other types of of filters, and then it puts the plasma and blood back into the body, and it actually can pull certain toxic chemicals out. So there's plasma exchange, which I've done. There's blood filtration, which you do generally out outside of the United States, which I have not done yet, but I'm doing it in in December just for general longevity, purposes. And then there are over the counter spike protein detox you can take with the nattokinase, the bromelain, methionine.

Wow. Thank you, Gary. You're awesome. On that note We'll

get another quick break.

Let's take a quick break. Alright, Gary. We're back from the break. Yeah. You are blowing my mind here with all this information.

Let's let's switch gears a little bit.

Okay.

You know, you're you'd brought up something about evolution at the very beginning, and we're kinda talking about faith. And so I want you to dive into a little bit about evolution. I've never I've never covered this. Yeah. So I I would love to hear, you know, what you have to say about that.

Well, I'm a I'm, not a believer in evolution, at all. And, you know, I've I've a faith faith based background. You know, I I actually, was raised Roman Catholic and and oddly, me too. Were you really?

I was.

It was the worst. I'll be honest with you. It was like, I hated church when I was a kid. Stand up, sit down, kneel, shake hands. Half of our mass was in Latin.

But, my my dad always made me, like, put on a suit coat, you know, when I was a little kid and go to go to church. So I got pretty far away from the church in, like, high school and and college. But in grad school, an attorney of mine, brought me to a a Promise Keepers convention. There used to be a Christian men's I might still be around. I don't I don't hear much about it anymore, but there was a huge Christian men's movement called Promise Keepers.

And, there was an, they were hosting an event in Soldier Field. This is about this was in 94. Why did he bring you? Was there something going on? He just no.

He just thought that you know, he thought, like, every young man was kind of searching. And, you know, I was in grad school. I was at National College of Chiropractic, and I was getting my human biology degree. But I think I was probably like every other grad school kid. I was partying and, you know, going out and wasn't particularly responsible.

And and, I had actually just started dating my my first wife, and, and he was he was my attorney for a, actually, for a, car accident. I got rear ended towing a boat on a, on the highway, and, we actually struck up a really good friendship. He was a really good guy. He's kind of kind of a mentor to me, and he convinced me that there was, like, this motivational speakers event happening in Soldier Field, and, he invited it to me. And he invited me to it, and it turned out to be a Promise Keepers convention.

And it was this Christian men's movement, and, I'll never forget. Like, we we we were standing in Soldier Field, and 70,000 men, joined hands and started to say the lord's prayer. And I need the lord's prayer because I was raised Roman Catholic. And something happened to me. I mean, first of all, I had this just overwhelming sensation that 70,000 men couldn't be wrong.

Like, it went from feeling very odd to feeling, like, very right. And then for some reason, I just broke down and just started, like, bawling uncontrollably. And I wasn't sad. I don't I mean, you know, now I think that was the holy spirit, but I I I just started crying uncontrollably, and he was calling people down to the stage to give their life to Christ.

And Was it like gratitude?

I think it was gratitude, but I think it was also like a sense of relief. You know? Because I I remember leaving there thinking everything I thought about my upbringing in the church, because the the the church that I went to, and this is not to, you know, this is no condemnation of it, but it just made you feel like a sinner a lot. You know? The some of the mass was in Latin.

The priest was much older, very I I felt very narrow minded, and I was, like, every time I left church, I felt bad about myself. And this movement, this march was like, you can have a direct relationship with Christ. You can lay your problems at the foot of the cross. You don't need all of this, superfluous surroundings. You don't need a church or an institution or a group of people.

I mean, you can get on your knees and just have a direct relationship with Christ, and that to me seemed liberating. And and I like the idea of faith because it's it's the idea of delayed gratification. And, I think that's dramatically missing in this world. Me too. You know, because everybody's into, like, the instant gratification.

And the idea that we're all heading to a better place, and that there is a higher purpose. And so I gave I gave my life to Christ, and I won't say that I've been the best Christian ever since 1994. Definitely done some non Christian things, but, that to me has been very liberating. You know, I I I, you know, I wake up every day now, and I go outside. I do my breath work.

I do some sunlight, and I always just take a minute to thank God and just say, hey, listen. I'm not here to ask for anything. I'm just here to say thank you because I feel for the first time that he God's revealed his purpose to me, and I feel like my passion and my purpose, you know, my career, my calling is all kind of aligned itself. And it it takes away the law a lot of the fears. I think Christianity, if you realize that if you wanna shrink your problems, you just grow your purpose.

And so it's helped me grow my purpose. And so the friction in my life has seemed so much easier to to deal with. Wow. And and I'm not any more righteous than anybody else. I but I I feel such a level of conviction now with my messaging.

And, you know, I've had I've had tough partnerships in the past. Not certainly not all my partner's fault. Lot of lot of it my fault, but I just know now that my my purpose on this Earth is to get this message to the masses.

Well, it's working. You know? Thank you. It's working. And, and I just you know, we we haven't really covered this because of you know, I don't I don't really know where to put it, and I don't know how much you wanna talk about it.

But when we talk about you know, when we're talking, you know, friendly business, how I do things, how you do things, and and when I hear, you know, you talk about you've walked away from businesses, you've turned advertising deals down, you have you you only you only talk about what you believe in, whether you're being paid in or not. I mean, you just had, you know, you you just mentioned, you know, a lot of the things that you're shouting out, pretty much all of them, that we've spoken about, you get you get nothing out of. You know? And and I I think it's you know, this takes a very authentic person to do that. And, you know, and then and

Thank you.

It's and I I we share a lot of the same values, and, there's not a lot of people out there that share those same values.

Mhmm.

And, it's just it's really cool to see. And and, you know, I I keep bringing up the UK thing because that's my Yeah. That's my latest thing that I'm really excited about that I would, you know, love to be in some type of thing. But I don't care. You know?

Because it's like I had mentioned I do believe that, you know, it all comes back around. And if you inject good into this world, then it's going to come back around to you some other way somehow some other way. Yeah. And, I think that's important, you know, for people to, I know it happens to me.

Mhmm.

You know? And, whether it's it's it's you know? 1 of the things that I really like doing on this podcast is being able to I mean, this is how it started because I couldn't I couldn't reach people Mhmm. Like you or, you know, people that have made a big name for themselves, and and I've always rooted for the underdog. And so I'll find the guy that's you know, like, we were talking about Tyler Andrew Vargas with his knife company and, Yeah.

You know, to bring his story out and then display what he's doing now to give him a fucking jet launch into

So awesome.

Into the business world. I mean, I get nothing out of that. Yeah. I mean, I get a friendship and, and a and a new connection. I love Tyler.

Yeah. Wish the best for that dude, and I Anybody's keep in touch with him. But, you know, but that comes back around. You know? And and and you do that too, and that's just really fucking cool to

see, man. No. Thank you.

I mean I wish more people knew that about you.

Yeah. You know, I I when I first, you know, I I I founded a wellness clinic, which in, with my now wife, girlfriend, in 2017. And, you know, it did very well for itself in 2021. You know, we sold it and took on took on some partner partners and took on a minority stake. We just we recently exited that.

And and then I started a media and and then I started a media platform, and the reason why I started the podcast was because, I didn't want the message to be controlled. You know, I wanted to very often give without the expectation of receipt, but I also don't wanna create the illusion that, you know, I'm just running a philanthropy. I mean, I've done I've done very well for myself financially. I mean, god's been very, very good to me. But, also, the, you know, the messaging is is not about any 1 product or any 1 service or, you know, wearing a certain t shirt or only messaging about this is the sole and only path to, you know, a state of optimal health or to solve your problems, and it happens to be through my supplement or my testing or, you know, only only through my clinics.

There's so many people out there that are doing incredible work. Like, my heroes are the PhDs and the MDs and the researchers and and and the scientists that are actually really making making an impact. And 1 of the things I decided was I'll I I wanna build a, you know, podcast, a media platform, to find the best products, the best services, the best people, and try to give them a voice. And, unfortunately, that sometimes conflicts with your other, you know, business endeavors because it may not be the supplement that you manufacture or the test that you require your clients to do. And and I think that gets very myopic.

Right? Be when you say there's only 1 way to optimal health, and it's through my company, through my supplement, through my testing, through you know, there's there are so many people that are doing amazing things for this world. Some of them I have financial relationships with, like echo water bottles and and, Perfect Aminos and Baja Gold Sea Salt, but I believe deeply in those companies. And then others that I find that deserve a voice, that that I get no financial reward from of any kind. I mean, half the brands I've shouted out on the podcast so far, I have no relationship with at all.

They thank me all the time. I I get tons of their you know, I sipping tons of stuff to the house, but but other than that, and it's because I wish more of us thought about that because the tide raises all the boats. And I think that we've been given an a gift in my industry. You know, the wellness, functional medicine space, you know, longevity, whatever you wanna call it. And I think that post pandemic, there's such a trust distrust of the global elites.

And people realize that, you know what? Maybe maybe our government and the elites don't have our best interests at heart. And I need to I need to take this decision. You know, I need to take optimal health into my own hands. I need to become my own citizen scientist.

But the question is, where do they go for messaging? There's if you get on the Internet, you'll get paralysis of analysis. I mean, 1 person tells you the eggs are gonna kill you, the next person tells you it gotta be eggs every day. You know, 1 person tells you the carnivore diet is the be all end all, and the next person tells you it's the fastest way to get cardiovascular disease. So what I'm trying to do is sift through the noise and and be as authentic about that messaging as possible.

And a lot of that, there's no way to to to monetize. And but I think that, again, that's what that's how I know that I'm on on on God's purpose because this information does not belong to me. Right? It belongs to humanity. I'm just sort of blessed enough to have it flow through me.

And You're a conduit. Yeah. Just a conduit. Right? I'm not I'm not I'm not the genius.

I didn't come up with it. You know, it's it's I don't have anything special. It just you know, but it but it it very often flows through me. And and, you know, like, I made a couple of public announcements on on on Instagram the other day. It's still on my Instagram.

My wife and I sat for 3 days almost in tears because of the thousands, and they're still up on my Instagram, the thousands and thousands of messages we got from people whose lives had changed, and we didn't know who they were. We had no direct contact with them. We'd never benefited from anything we'd done. Just the message hit them at the right time, and they either started doing breath work, or sunlight, or grounding, or cold plunging, or, you know, eating whole foods, or they got on some of the supplements that I recommended. They stopped believing that they had autoimmune disease or mental illness or, a psychiatric disorder, and they actually started focusing on their gut, and and and their their life completely changed.

They're like, I don't have Crohn's disease anymore. I'm I'm, you know, I've I've I've finally, you know, started, started to hack my sleep. You know, I don't I don't have the mental illness. Anxiety has gone down 85%. We're able to conceive now, because I talk a lot about folic acid and the right supplements that that that young women are trying to get pregnant on trying to conceive.

Because miscarriages, especially in in young females, are highly linked to a gene mutation called MTHFR, affectionately called the motherfucker gene, but it stands for methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase. About 44% of the population has this gene mutation. And, you know, the first thing that that women are told when they're when they get pregnant is to take high doses of folic acid. And most women don't realize that folic acid is is not a natural compound. We've been told it's vitamin b 9.

It's not. We make folic acid in a in a laboratory. Folic acid doesn't occur anywhere naturally in nature. You can't find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the earth. Yet how yet it's necessary to have a healthy pregnancy because it reduces neural tube defects.

That's actually not true. Folic acid doesn't reduce anything. Folic acid has to be converted by the body into the usable form called Methylfolate, in order to prevent a neural tube defect. In order to not have the cell go into something called s phase arrest. So what happens is, if 44% of the population has a genetic mutation called MTHFR, where they can't process this folic acid And by the way, I'll put the link to this to to the clinical study that supports what I'm about to say, because I get a lot of flack from this too.

When you take a synthetic compound that didn't even exist until 1993, and you make it a requirement to have a healthy pregnancy, what you're doing is you're assuming that the body would have a deficiency in folic acid, which can't. No 1 no 1 can have a deficiency in folic acid. You can have a deficiency in folate. But you can't be deficient in a synthetic nutrient. And you pump the population full of this, folic acid.

If you don't have the gene mutation, you can create the raw material the body needs, called Methylfolate. If you do have the gene mutation, then all the folic acid in the world doesn't matter, because your body can't create the usable form of that nutrient. And when you can't create the usable form of that nutrient, when your DNA is replicating, it goes into something called s phase arrest, which is essentially where it stops the the replicating at that level. And what are the consequences of that? Well, if you look at what this gene mutation, which is essentially results in a deficiency in methylfolate causes, it causes the intestinal motility to slow down.

So these people have gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, and cramping. And then they start going down all the usual roads. They start going and getting food sensitivity testing and food allergy testing, and yet nothing works. They eat the same thing on Monday, and they're fine. They eat the exact same thing on Wednesday, and they blow up like a tick.

And they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense. I ate the exact same food Monday morning, and I was fine. I ate it again on Wednesday, and now I'm blowing up like a tick. So right there, it should tell you that you don't have an allergy. Right?

Because allergies are consistent. They're not transient. Right? People are not allergic to milk on Monday, unallergic on Wednesday afternoon, and reallergic on Saturday morning. Allergies are are very easy to spot.

Look, there's no adult listening to this podcast right now that has a shellfish allergy that doesn't know it. Right? You don't make it till adulthood and not know that you have this allergy. So what what we what we fail to realize is very often, a nutrient deficiency, specifically Methylfolate, because your body can't break down folic acid. This nutrient deficiency can interrupt the pace of the gut, the peristaltic activity of the gut.

So what happens when you interrupt the the that peristaltic activity in the gut? Gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping. Well, what else happens? Well, this is where neurotransmitters are manufactured. This is why to this day, in in in 9 years of being in this industry intensely, I have never met a patient that tells me they suffer from severe anxiety that does not also have gut issues.

Not once. Because the anxiety is not coming from the outside environment, it's coming from the gut. And so, and these poor people go down the road of food sensitivity, food allergy testing, they go on a carnivore diet, they go on keto, paleo, what have you. Sometimes carnivore will solve it, because they happen to get to the Methylfolate. And when when you realize that these are just nutrient deficiencies, and so women, for example, that, become pregnant and take high doses of this folic acid, they all of a sudden they can't process folic acid.

So they're taking the folic acid because their doctor tells them to take it to prevent a neural tube defect. So like a good mother, they take it. And then, they don't realize that they can't convert it. So it's actually not preventing the neural tube defect and helping the fetus the way they want it to, and this high amounts of folic acid rise in their blood, and it causes all kinds of psychiatric conditions, including postpartum depression, which begins during pregnancy, even though it's called postpartum depression. And eventually, what happens to a lot of these women is their pregnancy ends, they stop taking their prenatal vitamin, and their symptoms go away.

Mhmm. So they blame it on the pregnancy, not on the vitamin. And so, you know, 1 of the messages that I really try to get out there is that, if you have, ADD, ADHD, OCD, focus and concentration problems, or your kids have behavioral issues, or they have issues with focus, concentration, completing assignments, paying attention, not being disruptive in class, for 1 week, get the folic acid out of their diet. Get them on a kid's multivitamin that has Methylfolate. Just do this for 1 week.

And you tell me if you don't have a completely different child in the house. The reason for this is 44% of the population, including children, have this gene mutation, where they can't process folic acid. Well, where do we find folic acid? Well, in the United States, which is what's this is what's really screwed up about our chemical and food industry. In the United States, by law, all white flour, white rice, bread, pasta, cereals, grains of any kind are sprayed with the chemical folic acid.

It's not called sprayed with folic acid. It's called fortified or enriched. So when you spin a box of crackers around, or you see flour, or breads, or pastas, or cereals, or grains, and it says enriched bleach white flour, fortified whole wheat, fortified or enriched grains, fortified cereal, enriched cereal, that means it's been sprayed with folic acid, which 44% of the population can't process. You take a little child that has this gene mutation, which 44% of them do, and what do we feed them in the morning for breakfast? White bagels, full of folic acid.

Cereal, full of folic acid. Pop Tarts, full of folic acid. Any of these things. And you dub 1800% of the daily allowance of folic acid into that little body, it's a full contact sport to get that kid in the car to go to school in the morning. And when they get to school, the call comes home, and it says, hey, little Johnny can't pay attention.

He's disruptive. He doesn't follow, instructions. He doesn't complete assignments. We need to bring in the riddle in to solve this. And that's where the hamster wheel starts.

If you just got the folic acid, the synthetic compound that does not occur naturally in nature, and gave them methylfolate as a as a supplement, and just got the fortified or enriched foods out of their diet for a week, you'd have a very often have a completely different wild house. And there's so many people that are dealing with this. You know, the the these kids that are, the I mean, the rates of not just autism, which have gone from 1 in 5000 to 1 in 32, in the in the last 40 years. The the the rates of attention deficit disorder are on an absolute parabolic terror. I mean, you wanna put talk about a pandemic, but no 1 really tells you that attention deficit disorder is not even a a deficit of attention.

Attention deficit disorder is is is not, an inability to pay attention. It's actually an attention overload disorder. It's it's too many windows open at the same time. Right? So people that have ADD or ADHD don't lack the ability to pay attention.

They lack the ability to pay attention to so many things. So why is it that you're opening windows faster than you're closing them? The reason is that in the human mind, we don't just create thought, we also dismantle thought. We break thought down. We break down emotion, we break down mood, we break down thought.

If you degrade thought at a slower rate than you create it, then your the mind becomes very clouded. Right? You're you're you're, you're you're thinking about a vacation you a job you're working on, let's say. You're thinking about a job you're working on, and you and your friend walks up. And now you're thinking about a job, you start talking to your friend.

And you notice logo on your friend's jacket that reminds you of a vacation you want to take. So now you're thinking about a job, looking at the logo, talking to your friend, thinking about a vacation you wanna take. Mhmm. Like, all at the same time. And and then your friend says something to you, and you're, like, not with it.

You know, like, you know, hey. Are you there? What's happening is, you're creating thought at a faster rate than you're breaking it down. Very often stimulated by folic acid, and driven by a lack of methylfolate. And so, when you put these compounds back in the body, very often, thought process returns to normal.

Right? In other words, the degradation of thought returns to normal, and you start sequencing thought normally. Because you didn't have an attention deficit disorder, you had an attention overload disorder. You were opening 2 window too many windows at the same time. You know, modern medicine says, hey, if the mind's racing.

Right? If you're opening all these windows. Right? So the mind's the mind's racing. Let's put an amphetamine into the body to race the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind.

That's what Vyvanse, Adderall and Ritalin are, they're basically glorified amphetamines. So now you're taking the system, the central nervous system, which is not broken, and you're breaking it to match the system that is broken. Right? Which is a terrible idea. It's like it's like it's like getting a flat tire and then getting out of your car and slashing your other 3 tires Yeah.

To create equilibrium. So, you know, 1 of the messages I don't even know how we got on this path. I'm, I'm like way down the road.

We were talking about faith.

We were talking about faith. I've been to U-turn somewhere, dude.

I'm sorry. And eventually I'm gonna bring it back.

But it was methyl folate, guys. Take methyl folate. Get the folate gaffe that out of your diet.

Let's, wow. I'm glad we covered that.

I grew up I'm glad we are too because, I mean, that's the really, if you got moms and dads listening to this podcast that have little kids that have those issues.

I have those issues. I grew up taking Adderall Yeah. And Ritalin. Yeah. Still took it all the way up to psychedelics and, and stopped it.

But I do have too many windows open.

Yeah. So Most people do.

It's never been explained to me like that. So, you know

Degrade. We gotta degrade thought. Same thing happens to people with with sleep issues. We're gonna get into your labs in a second, but and I'm gonna explain why people that are the most exhausted, why they sleep the worst. Because you because you think it would be the opposite.

Right? You you think that people that are really exhausted, the only thing they do well is sleep. But, actually, the people that are the most exhausted sleep the worst, and I'm gonna point out where what they need to look at in the in in the labs to fix that. But the majority of people that are listening to this podcast right now, that have really poor, sleep patterns or have just a really tough time sleeping. The reason why they have a tough time sleeping is because when they lay down to go to sleep and they're body tired, their mind is awake.

You if you ask them, they will tell you, I'm not sleeping because my mind is awake, not because I'm not tired. So what happens is, as their environment quiets, their mind wakes up. So why does your mind wake up at night when there's no stimulus? It's because they there's there's a category of neurotransmitters in our brain called catecholamines. K?

These are fight or flight neurotransmitters, dopamine, norepinephrine, ephedrine, adrenaline. When these neurotransmitters start to rise, what they do is they create a wakeen state. If they continue to rise, you'll feel anxious. If they rise further, you'll feel anxiety. If they continue to rise, you can have paranoias or even a full blown panic attack.

So if we realize that as a certain class of neurotransmitters rises, our mind enters a waking state. And if we realize that if we don't have the right raw material in our body, specifically the right complex of b vitamins, Methylfolate, a form of b 12 called methylcobalamin, just which is just a form of the the light metal b 12. Then what happens is we have a difficult time breaking these neurotransmitters down, quieting these neurotransmitters. So at night, our mind wakes up. And what we'll do is we'll ruminate on the most innocuous little shit.

Like, you you you will lay there just thinking, did I get everything on my grocery list? Did my belt match my shoes? You know, should I have a Thanksgiving day party with my family? You'll just ruminate on the most nonsensical things, and it will just eat away at your sleep for hours. And people get frustrated because they realize I'm exhausted, but I can't fall asleep.

Soon as you put the right raw materials back into the human body, methylated nutrients, very often their mind starts starts to quiet down at night, and they don't have to tranquilize themselves to go to sleep. And so, a lot of the conditions that we, accept as a consequence of aging, Or, you know, little Johnny's just got attention deficit disorder, but everybody's got attention deficit disorder. You know, I have a hard time falling asleep. But I'm, you know, I'm in my forties, and I got 3 kids, and I shouldn't fall asleep. But none of that is true.

These are not consequences of aging. They are consequences of missing raw material in our bodies. And these raw materials are very easy to put back in. So back to faith. Sorry.

No.

That's that's I struggle with all these. Yeah. So this

go to a lot of your major 0,

yeah. It's a I mean, 1, I have 1 of the biggest veteran audiences in the world in the in the country. So we all struggle with sleep. So that was Yeah. Super informative.

And, and and, you know, the

the the challenge with sleep very often, and I wanna get into it in your labs because I think we can solve this issue for a lot of your listeners. Number 1, they should be looking at taking methylated vitamins, taking methylfolate at night, taking magnesium at night. The light metals that that create the deficiency that that make it hard to quiet the mind. The second thing they ought to really think about is, getting their blood work done and getting some data and looking at their hormone levels in in men, very specifically testosterone. Because it's it's it's very hard for for most physicians to link deficiencies in in a hormone like testosterone to poor sleep patterns.

What happens is testosterone, and we can we we talk about this further with your labs, with testosterone, 1 of its primary roles is actually not male characteristics. That's why women are afraid of testosterone therapy because, they think it leads to facial hair and aggression and big muscles and a deep voice, and that's actually not true. 1 of the primary roles of the hormone testosterone in men and women is to actually put pressure on the bone marrow to create new red blood cells. So, this is called erythropoiesis, right? The production of new red blood cells.

Same thing happens when you go to altitude, for example. So let's say you have low testosterone, and you have low production of red blood cells. You don't have anemia, but you have a very low red blood cell count. So what does this mean? You have very few vehicles in your blood to transport oxygen.

K? And this hides in plain sight. So people that have sleep issues or energy issues should listen really closely, because you'll go get your blood work done by a physician, and there's a range for red blood cells. So it will be within range, but you'll be down in the bottom 10 percentile. Then there's a second thing on your labs called, hemoglobin, which is kind of like the fluid in the red blood cell.

Tells you how much hemoglobin is in that cell. And that's in the bottom 10 or 15 percentile. They're in the normal range. What happens when I start to delete red blood cells from the bloodstream, and when I start to drain them of hemoglobin, and I'm oversimplifying this for a moment, is I have less fluid to carry oxygen. And what's the result of that?

I'm tired. I'm tired because I'm I'm hypoxic, and I'm hypoxic because I'm low on red blood cells. And I'm low on red blood cells very often because I'm deficient in the hormone testosterone. And so when somebody says they're low on energy, if you convert that statement to physiology, they're almost saying I'm low on red blood cells. I'm low on hemoglobin.

May maybe because I'm low on on testosterone, which is why I really believe that people should get hormone panels done. And not everybody needs to be on testosterone. There are lots of ways to raise it without taking the hormone. My point is, now if you're tired all the time. Right?

Because your your blood doesn't carry oxygen well. Well, what happens when you go to sleep? You lay down to go to sleep. Your respiratory rate gets very shallow. Right?

You take shallow breaths. So the oxygen level in your blood drops. Well, your oxygen's your your your blood's already poor at carrying oxygen. So now as your respiratory rate drops and the blood oxygen level drops, you're marginally suffocating. And so what happens is, as you start to get into a deep sleep, your brain wakes you up.

You will pulse cortisol at night to keep your body out of a deep sleep, because your brain is keeping you from suffocating. Then people do the worst thing. Instead of fixing their hormone and raising their red blood cell count, they actually go to their doctor and say, doc, I can't sleep. The doc gives them zolpidem nitrate, diazepam, Xanax, you know Ambien. Lessa, Ambien, whatever it is.

What a lot of these drugs do is they essentially blindfold the brain's view of blood oxygen. And it allows you to get into a sleep because your brain won't wake you up. But then you wake up in the morning and go, man, I hate taking Tylenol PM because it it it it it just it's still in my system the next morning. Or when I wake up from Ambien, I'm really groggy and I'm foggy. That medication has been out of your system for hours.

You are feeling the effects of having suffocated for 6 hours. That's why you're groggy. That's why you can't focus. That's why you're sore and stiff and achy.

Wow.

So if you went back and fix the hormones very often, you would fix the signal to the bone marrow. You would fix the red blood cell count, which would fix the oxygen transport, which would not only give you more energy, but it would deep in your sleep.

Fascinating. Yeah. Makes a hell of a lot of sense. You got a great way of breaking things down. Thanks.

You really do. Yeah. Even for somebody like me to understand. So but, but, I would love to hear you disprove evolution. Can we do that?

Well, the main issue with evolution is the following. The main issue with evolution is we have taken enormous scientific leaps in the fossil records. Right? So if evolution is true, then you find single celled or multi celled organisms. Right?

And you go from single celled or 2 celled organisms to 4 celled, to 8 celled, to 16 celled. You go through a progressive, evolution, if you will, of these organisms evolving into an increasingly more being like creature. So evolution says basically that some bacteria got together in a mud puddle, and they mated, and we went from single celled organisms to multi celled organisms, to quadracellular, to hexacellular, to multicellular, and then these organisms began to form into systems that created organ systems, and then you basically had what is a rudimentary, non air breathing, organism that's that was in the water to an organism that had gills, and then those gills moved out onto land, and then they started to breathe oxygen, and then this whole lineage of species evolved from this. The problem is, there's 0 evidence of that. The problem is you have these single celled organisms and multi celled organisms, and then there's just a giant gap in the fossil record.

And you have animals, and then you have man. But we don't have a fossil record that takes us from single and multi celled organisms into an entire species, and we just simply ignore that.

And so I didn't know that.

We ignore the science that would let it validate that evolution was and and, 2, for me, when I when I start to when I really study the human body, and and by the way, we have barely scratched the surface of understanding, you you know, this this thing that God created. It is it is fascinating in its ability. You know, modern medicine will say, well, that was a miracle cure. It's not a miracle cure. It's when when people are miraculously cured from things, it's because they figured out the deficiency, or they figured out that we're an that we're an entire being.

We we've lost, faith in the ability that this has over this. The, medicine treats our our mental health and our physical health almost as separate, creatures. And so, you destroy somebody's gut health, their mental health will follow. You will not have Again, I've never met a patient that suffers from anxiety that didn't have gut issues. So what I'm saying is you have this perfectly beautiful organism.

You have these communities of trillions of cells. God gave us everything that we need to thrive. Everything that we need to thrive. The best research that is being done on the surface of mother earth right now is being done on the basics that god gave us. Magnetism from the earth, oxygen from the air, light from the sun, whole foods, minerals from, like, that you would get if you scooped water out of a flowing stream, grounding by discharging into the earth and changing the polarity of of of your body, repolarizing the surface of your blood cells, learning to actually allow sunlight into your eyes and to touch your skin.

We're very photovoltaic beings. And so what happens when we start to disconnect from mother nature? What happens when we start to disconnect from what God gave us and replace it with what man man made us? We get this is this is how we become sick and diseased and pathological. And the reason why I say that is that this whole ecosystem was meant to, work as as an entire ecosystem.

You can't take pieces of it out and expect to maintain a state of of optimal health. So for example, if you look at our circulatory system, you you don't very few people realize that that only 30% of our blood is circulated by our heart. Right? Your heart's only responsible for 30% of the circulation in our body. 70% of our circulation is actually not done by the heart.

70% of our circulation is done by an activity called vasomotor. K? This is microvascular circulation. Nobody listening to this podcast has a heart that is strong enough in a single contraction to pump blood all the way to the tip of your toes, to the tip of your fingers, through all the capillaries in your brain, your liver, your lungs, your pancreas, your kidneys, none of us. What happens is, we pump blood to the entrance of these capillaries, and then an activity called vasomotor takes over.

Think of a snake swallowing a mouse. And so, what happens as we age to this these capillaries, to this microvascular circulation? Well, as we deprive it of sunlight, which we very often do, it becomes deconditioned, if you will. You lose the vascular laxity. Blood flow begins to decrease.

The reason why most people start wearing readers in their fifties is not because their eyesight is physically changing, but because the blood flow to the back of their eyes is changing. When we, when we don't change, when we don't vary our temperature, right, expose ourselves to cold temperatures, expose ourselves to hot temperatures when we just keep our temperature perfectly normal, we stop exercising our vascular system. Our our arteries are smooth muscle, they can actually contract and expand. We don't think about exercising our vascular system, but it's actually very good for you. 1 of the reasons why I love cold water exposure, taking a cold shower, getting in a cold plunge, or cold tub, is because you're exercising your vascular system.

You're causing a peripheral vasoconstriction and a vasodilation, which is actually very very good for maintaining this microvascular circulation. But we just maintain our body temperature, and air temperature, and our car temperature, and our temperature in our office, and our temperature in our home, because we don't like to be uncomfortable. We gotta stop telling grandma not to go outside it's too hot, not to go outside it's too cold, just to lay down, just to relax, just to eat at the very first pang of hunger. This is collapsing all of our natural defense mechanisms. And so, 1 1 1 of the reasons, you know, getting back to to evolution, is you look at how this human body is is is structured, and you you see that, for example, an artery will have a certain diameter, and it carries this warm oxygenated blood away from the heart.

And then wrapped around this artery, comprising the same diameter, but divided into smaller little pipes are the veins. And the veins are smaller in diameter, and they're wrapped around the artery to improve the heat exchange. And so you start, like, digging into this, and you're, like, this is like the most sophisticated engineer in the world designed this system because the warm fluid that's leaving changes the temperature of the cool fluid that's coming back. And the way you change the temperature is you divide the same diameter into smaller pipes and you wrap it around this other pipe. You don't see arteries and veins like this.

You see artery and veins like this. And so it's and I could give you a 1,000 examples of this. It's just it's just incredible how the the body can you you know, when you fast, for example, your body goes into the state called autophagy, where it actually starts to, eat cells that are useless in the body. It recycles them. Right?

You look at any faith in the in the world, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhist, Hindu. You look at any, major religion in the world, they all have periods of fasting. And they have periods of fasting because fasting wasn't just to deprive you of, you know, pleasures of the flesh. It was to heal you. It was actually designed when we didn't have the medications that we have today.

It was designed to cleanse and heal the body. Because when you go into a fasted state, this miraculous condition starts to emerge where your body efficiently go sends the immune system out into the world, and it starts to eat the useless cells in your body and break them apart into the amino acids that we use other places for energy.

Oh, so

Incredibly efficient. It's it's like, you know, like, the greatest PhD chemist in the world designed the chemical component. The greatest architectural engineer in the world designed the architecture of it. The structure of it is is is so incredible. If you look at how we take the same minerals and create bone, calcium, phosphorus, form hydroxyapatite, create this this bone, and then we warehouse a factory inside the bone that creates the the the red blood cells.

And the red blood cells are responsible for shuttling the, the gasses around in the body. And this this ecosystem is so intelligent, and it couldn't in not in my opinion, but in the scientific evidence, it could not have been put together by accident. It didn't happen by happenstance. And don't tell me about genetic evolution because, you know, genetically, you know, we've been told things like, you know, we pass disease from generation to generation, which is in most cases is patently false. Like, you know, you have a lot of listeners right now that you will either have type 2 diabetes, or they'll have hypothyroid, or they'll have high blood pressure, or they'll have drug and alcohol addiction runs in their family, or depression and anxiety runs in their family.

And they have been told that these are genetically inherited diseases. Right? Because something runs in families does not mean it's genetically inherited. This is another farce that has been promulgated on the the the the populace. Because if I can convince you that you have a genetically inherited disease, I can convince you that you need to subscribe to a lifetime of medication.

So you come in to see me as your doctor, and I look at your blood pressure, and I go, Sean, you have high blood pressure. You go, well, why do I have high blood pressure? I go, well, I don't know. You have a normal EKG, you have a normal EEG, you have normal heart sounds, you have normal lung sounds, you have a normal dye contrast study. I did all these tests on your heart, and there's nothing wrong with your heart.

Why do I have high blood pressure? Well, because your grandfather had it, or your uncle had it. So it's familial. It's genetically inherited. The next time a physician says that to you, you need to look them dead in the face and say, what gene did I inherit from my ancestor that gave me that condition?

Watch their face go blank. Because things run-in families does not mean that you have a genetic disease. What we pass from generation to generation is, for the most part, is not disease. It is habits. Habits and nutrient deficiencies, both of which are fixable.

Right? Go to Google right now and say, what percentage of hypertension is idiopathic, meaning of unknown origin? 85%. You mean to tell me 85% of the time they diagnose you with high blood pressure, they have no idea what's causing it? It's exactly what I mean.

So what do we do in the 85% of cases where we don't know the origin of high blood pressure? We medicate the heart. What do we do in the 85% of cases that we don't know why you have, hypothyroid? We medicate the thyroid. And so you wanna talk about a pandemic in this country.

We have a pandemic of holding organs responsible for crimes they're not committing. So many people that are listening to this podcast right now either have high blood pressure or they have a loved 1 with high blood pressure. And the type of high blood pressure they were diagnosed with is idiopathic hypertension, unknown origin hypertension. Then they were told because an ancestor had it, they inherited it. But there is no gene for that condition, so it cannot be genetic.

And so the same thing happens with with with with thyroid. We diagnose people with low thyroid, and I'm gonna point this out on your labs. Generally, broadly because they have low T3 hormone. Right? So the thyroid makes 2 hormones, t 4 and it makes t 3.

But the little known fact about the thyroid is that it only makes 20% of the t 3 hormone in your blood. So if t 3 is low, there's an 80% chance it's not your thyroid. But what do we do when t 3 is low? We call it hypothyroid, and we medicate the thyroid. So the question should be, where's the other 80% come from?

The other 80% comes from outside the thyroid. It's deiodinized in the liver, which is about 2 thirds of the thyroid hormone t 3. The rest of it comes from the gut and the periphery. But the point is, between the liver, the gut, and the periphery, this is outside of the thyroid. We just hold the thyroid responsible for crime it's not committing.

Instead of looking at, well, what nutrients? Selenium, thiamine, zinc, which are very very common, selenium, very common deficiencies in in thyroid conditions, less often iodine. But before we look to see if the body has the right raw materials, the right nutrients, we assume disease and pathology. And now we're whacking a perfectly healthy organ, accusing it of a crime it's not committing, and people subscribe to a lifetime of the medication because they were told it's genetic, because their grandmother or their uncle or their aunt had it, and there's no gene to pass it on to them. And so these are the the the kinds of of you know, again, this brings me back to the discussion about faith.

Because God gave us everything that we need to thrive. If you can't find it on the surface of the earth, you probably don't need it to live a healthy, happy, long, thriving life. Right? It's when we start picking up the things that God didn't give us. We start eating highly processed foods, glyphosates, preservatives, pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, fake foods, dyes, you know, the MSG's, the genetically modified foods, which are not even foods.

And we start putting these non natural compounds into the body. Now we become diseased and sick and pathological. And now we're relying on chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals to fix the pathology that was caused by the chemicals, the synthetics, and the pharmaceuticals. It's it's it's such a vicious cycle. But but if we go back to what God gave us, meat, fish, chicken, eggs, vegetables, sunlight, grounding, breath work, exercise, nature, water that is free of, you know, glyphosate and free of, chlorine and free of, fluoride and and microplastics and pharmaceuticals, you'd find that we could fix this entire pandemic or chronic disease in the country.

Just going back to what God gave us. Wow.

So you're not eating Bill Gates' fake meat?

This lab grown meat? Italy banned that shit. That was crazy. I mean, you know, stem cell grown meat, I mean, that's that's wild. Out.

It's it's it's pretty wild. And now we wanna blame green you know, greenhouse gasses on cow farts, and I'm like, this

is Well, that's a that's a fascinating conversation we just had. I got a couple of questions. 1 was the fasting. I remember, I think we had lunch at at your place, for the podcast, and you were talking about you had mentioned something about how fasting I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but it sounded like fasting is great for fighting and or preventing cancer.

No question. How so? Well, because, everyone listening to this podcast at some point in their lifetime, whether you've had cancer or not, has had cancer cells in your body. All cancer has the same origin. It was at 1 time a healthy cell.

Right? So is the liver cell, a lung cell, pancreatic cell, you know, a brain cell? That cell's metabolism shifted. Right? So it it went from a healthy metabolism, which is usually using oxygen, and to produce an energy source called ATP, spitting out carbon dioxide.

Healthy cellular metabolism, it's eliminating waste. It's repairing. It's, you know, it's detoxifying. It's regenerating. You know, it's replicating.

So that was at 1 time a healthy cell. Something happened to that cell that shift its metabolism to being sick, if you will. It shifts to a different source of energy. Uses sugar, it uses acid. It creates acid as a as a byproduct.

And so why is it that we think that a healthy cell can become a sick cell? But we don't think a sick cell can become a healthy cell. And so, you know, the theory is that once a cell that was healthy now becomes sick, the only way to fix this cell is to kill this cell. Now, very often, there are forms of cancer that have, what's called a DNA mismatch, where the where the immune system actually recognizes, the cancer as a as a foreign body, and it and it begins to wage war on it. This is the whole basis for something called immunotherapies.

We've had a lot of clients, and again, I am not a physician, and I'm not an oncologist. So I wanna make that perfectly clear, and I'm not recommending that you just fast if you have cancer. Although I am recommending if you have cancer, you should fast. Maybe not just only fast. But in the body, we can create an environment that's very hospitable for cancer.

We can create an environment that's very inhospitable to cancer. So let's talk about a biome that is inhospitable to cancer. It's not really inviting cancer. Number 1, it has few areas of focal hypoxia. It has few areas of the body that are deprived of oxygen.

Healthy circulation, movement, sunlight, things like red light therapy. So we have healthy circulation, we have healthy levels of of of oxygen in the blood. The second thing is we don't have an environment that is very acidic. You know, the pH range of the blood is very narrow, so about a half a point. As you get more towards the lower end of that scale, you get more acidic.

As you get the higher end of that scale, you get more alkaline. We know that alkaline environments tend to be disease free environments, acidic environments tend to be disease prone, environments. The other thing is we can talk about removing the unnecessary assault on our cellular biology. So things like pesticides, herbicides, glyphosates, insecticides, preservatives. So eating whole foods in their natural format, avoiding things like seed oils.

And if you still don't believe the research on seed oils, Paul Saladino just did a great short documentary on it. Doctor McCullough has done lots of exposes on seed oils. The evidence on seed oils is absolutely valid, even though you will see that NIH research says that that, these polyunsaturated fatty acids are not bad for you, and you should be eating Wesson oil, and corn oil, and canola oil, and safflower oil, and sunflower oil, and all of these seed oils that are highly toxic to our cellular biology. And and very often, it's not even the it's not even the, the origin of the seed itself, like a rape seed or a canola, which is the same thing, or a sunflower or safflower seed. What we do is we we take these canola plants or rape seed plants.

We put them in a commercial press, and the and the the oil comes out very gummy. So we degum it with something called hexane, which is a neurotoxin. Then we take that neurotoxic degummed oil, and we heat it to 405 degrees, and we turn it rancid. Okay. So now you have a putrefied rancid oil.

So then we have to deodorize it. So we deodorize it with sodium hydroxide, which is a known carcinogen. And then we, in some cases, will even bleach it, then bottle it, then put it on the shelf. So it's sometimes, it's not even the food. It's the distance from the food to the table.

So if you're listening to this, I would make today the day you get seed oils completely out of your diet. It's very hard to do. Sunflower, safflower, canola, rapeseed, and I would replace those with 4 or 5 different oils. If you're cooking, use coconut oil, which can take high temperatures. Use, grass fed or ghee butter or or, tallow.

All of those can are stable at high temperatures. And then at room temperature, use either an avocado oil or, an extra virgin olive oil. Those are the only fats and oils you need in your house. You can make everything with those. You can cook everything with those.

You're safe. They're from nature, and they don't denature at at high temperatures. When you take these seed oils, and you put them in deep fryers, and you start frying foods in these, you get all kinds of carcinogenic compounds that just spike inflammation in the body. And so, so, you know, I would if if you're if you're listening to this, I mean, I would make seed oils 1 of the 1 of the things that you tap water and seed oils get out of your life and your inflammatory cascade will come down in your body.

I'll start doing that.

And I hate to sound like such a fear monger, but the truth is, you know, because we started this whole conversation about evolution is it's the fear is just trying to get back around the system to get back to the basics. Right? That's that's what it is. There there's a lack of fear in whole foods and the basics. Fruits, vegetables, meat, fish, chicken, eggs from whole food sources.

When we take those things and put them through the industrial process before they hit the table, this is where this is where things go wrong. Right? I mean, cattle are not meant to eat soybean oil and high fructose corn syrup. They don't encounter these things in in nature. They don't take steroids.

They don't take antibiotics. They don't get vaccinated. But when we and when you look at commercial feedlots, if you've ever seen an aerial picture of a commercial feedlot, there is not 1 blade of grass on the ground. Those cattle are standing in 4 inches of mud, and I'm not kidding you. Just Google it.

You'll see images of these. 1000 and thousands of acres, as far as the eye can see, they're standing in in in mud. Very often, they're they're they're eating, grains, which they don't encounter. They're eating soybean. They're eating, and even in some cases, high fructose corn syrup.

Sometimes their teeth are rotted all the way up to the gum by the time they're slaughtered. Lots of them were dying of type 2 diabetes right before they're slaughtered. And so but if you take a cow and it's on a pasture, and it's eating 6 or 8 different varieties of grass and cloves, and it's eating the grass from the top down where the most nutritious part of the, of the plant is, and it's living for 6 or 7 or 8 years before it's slaughtered. It's a full, grown, animal. These are highly nutritious whole food sources, instead of the, you know, the commercially processed versions of these.

So you have a big veteran population. A lot of these veterans, you know, sadly are struggling with mental conditions as a part of their service to our country. And then they come back, and they're put on the pharmaceutical hamster wheel, but nobody's telling them, how do I get the neural inflammation out of my brain? How do I restore my mood into my emotional state to to normal? Nobody's talked to me about fixing my gut to get my neurotransmitters right, so my mood stabilizes.

Nobody's actually talked to me about getting, seed oils and and these, processed foods out of my diet to reduce the amount of inflammation in my brain that could be causing the chronic migraines that I have, the ruminating thoughts, nibbling away at my sleep, making me feel like I'm I'm I'm actually losing my mind. A lot of these men and women are not as sick or diseased or as mentally ill as they have been led to believe. They don't need chemical intervention in their brain. They need a reduction of the inflammatory process that is causing that to exist. And I'm not saying that in every case.

I am not, by any means, purporting therapy, or or or counseling, or any of those things. I think that I I I think they all have their place. But if you're not talking to these clients and and and patients about getting these these, compounds that incite inflammation out of their body and fixing their guts so they can create the neurotransmitters that manufacture healthy mood and healthy emotion, we're missing an entire gap in how we could treat them. Right? Yeah.

They they develop dopamine deficiencies, which is the genesis of addiction. The absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction. What happens when people's dopamine gets low? They engage in dopamine seeking behavior. Nicotine, alcohol, promiscuity, gambling, risky behaviors, what have you.

But they're actually not seeking the high, like we talked about earlier. They're seeking the normalcy. All these people just seek normalcy. Very few addicts are like, I wake up and just wanna get really banged up. They wake up and wanna feel normal.

What is causing the absence of normalcy? Deficiencies in dopamine, imbalances in neurotransmitters? Where the majority of these come from? Gut issues.

You know, it's interesting. I mean, I think about cancer scares these shit. It's probably my biggest fear. And, it's like every day, somebody else got cancer, somebody died of cancer, somebody's mom got cancer, somebody's brother got you know, it's it's every day. I hear it, and it's where I'm ramping amongst veterans.

And we're getting all these weird cancers, and I'm you know, I just think about you know, I spent 14 years in and out of war zones and breathing in

you know?

I mean, Kabul, Afghanistan is a it's in a it's in a big valley surrounded by mountains. How do those people keep warm? They burn tires all winter long, breathing that shit. I remember spitting in the sink, and my fucking spit was black. You know, water bottles sitting out in a 110, 115 degree weather in Iraq.

Plastic water bottles and drinking that for 14 years in the in the jammers. Now it's coming out while, of course, government's suppressing this, but Of course. The jammers, jammers being the things that disrupt the the signals, to trigger an IED. It'll block any cell phone radio transmissions, anything like that, which could detonate an IED. Now they're saying that they're saying that Ionizing technology.

That is causing that's why so many veterans are getting brain cancer because they've been running jammers Mhmm. Sitting there while it's pulsing. You know? And and and then, you know, all the ordnance, the explosions, everything. That's why I was asking about that's why I'm so interested in blood filtration

Mhmm.

And and and plasma exchange to

see if

I can get some of these heavy metals and all the shit out of my body that

Well, you know what a lot of these guys should be doing? Because, I mean, first of all, plasma exchange is amazing. These blood filtration are are amazing. I'll put links to places that they can get both. Right now, I have no affiliation with them.

I've actually done them myself. I'm a big believer, but they are very often outside of the price point for a lot of people. So what can people do that are listening to this podcast to activate their natural detox pathways and materially reduce the risk of cancer? Number 1, you know, like we talked about just getting tap water out of your diet. But number 2, you know, our natural detoxification pathways, like sweat, for example, regular sauna sessions.

Not only I mean, the the evidence on on dry saunas is in. I mean, an extension in all cause mortality, a reduction in cardiovascular risk, a reduction in cancer risk, significant, reductions in in in autoimmune conditions. And why is this? Because the skin can be used as a secondary route of waste elimination. And so regular sauna sessions, 20 minutes minimum, 3 times a week.

They have saunas now that are, you know, that are inexpensive enough that you don't even have to have the big, you know, cedar cedar room. They have saunas you can sit in. They have single saunas that you can get online. My preference is dry saunas. That's where most of the the the the evidence is is sitting in a dry sauna, activating those pathways.

Taking things like glutathione, liposomal or transdermal glutathione. Glutathione is is the most powerful antioxidant in the human body. It resides inside of every single cell in our bodies. There's not 1 cell in your body that does not contain glutathione. This is an antioxidant that's actually made by the liver, and, it's called the mother of all antioxidants.

We actually can do intracellular tests for the level of glutathione and tell exactly when a cell is going to die by its intracellular level of glutathione. It's that linked to cellular health. So you can supplement with glutathione. You can do it via IV drips. There is a transdermal glutathione, that you can spray, that you can rub to the skin, which has the right folded proteins to go through the blood and enter the I mean, through the skin and into the bloodstream, and, doing regular, sauna sessions.

These are all ways for us to decrease our susceptibility to cancer. I also think, although there's not a direct clinical studies stating this, drinking hydrogenated water, and reducing the inflammation in the body, also makes us less prone to cancer. If you actually want to look at, and you can you can repeat this at home, and you you can order a $6 ORP meter from Amazon. It's called an ORP meter, oxidative reduction potential. What this meter will do if you put it in a glass of water or any kind of fluid, is it will tell you what the potential is of that fluid to reduce oxidation.

To to to lower inflammation. I think I showed you this at my house. You did. So you take this little meter. You you you run tap water.

That's gonna be like plus 140, 160. Right? Meaning it's going to cause inflammation. You take filtered water. It's still gonna be plus 110, 120.

It's also going to cause inflammation. You take and add hydrogen gas to the water and it will drop to minus 600. Meaning, minus 600. Minus 600. So if you take that little hydrogen water bottle that we were drinking out of, and you and you fill it with bottled water, and you put the ORP meter in there, you'll see it'll be about plus 110, plus 120.

As soon as you turn the hydrogen gas on, it will drop to minus 600. So it is 7 times more reducing of oxidation. So when when something is reducing oxidation, reducing inflammation, what is it doing? It's it's neutralizing something that's causing inflammation. So when you put hydrogen water into the body, the hydrogen gas into the body, It's reducing inflammation.

So adding hydrogen water, regular sauna sessions, glutathione is an excellent supplement for people that are worried about detoxification. The primary problem that most people have when they detox from anything mold, or viruses or heavy metals, is the body's detoxification processes are not working. So they take something to detox or cleanse themselves. The body dumps all this stuff into the bloodstream, and they get sick as the devil. Well, that's why you wanna be doing regular sauna, regular glutathione, regular exercise, lots of hydration.

Get the body's natural detoxification, processes working. And these are things that everybody can do. Like, folks that don't have the money to go out and buy a cold plunge, just start taking, Tupperware containers in your kitchen, fill them with water, put them in your freezer at night, take it out the next morning, you'll have a block of ice, put that in your tub and swirl it around. And in 25 minutes, 30 minutes, you'll have a perfect cold lunch. You don't even have to go to 7:11 and spend, you know, whatever, $4 buying a bag of ice.

Which gets expensive if you're doing that every day too. And just keep rotating these Tupperware containers to your freezer and putting them into your into your tub. Start changing the temperature of your body. Apply a hormetic stress. Stress the body so that it strengthens.

Get your circulation, you know, working. And you can do this if you're deconditioned too. People that are handicapped or have reduced mobility, exposing yourself to sauna, exposing yourself to cold temperatures changing, the temperature of the body mimicking this level of circulation, increasing the the heart rate without moving a lot. You can be in a wheelchair and go into a sauna and your heart rate will rise. Right?

Some of the best research ever done on what's called multistep oxygen therapy or eWAD, exercise with oxygen therapy. I think it was doctor Otto Warburg. This research was done by taking deconditioned people. I did this with my parents 3 times a week. Putting them in the sauna, allowing that to raise the heart rate, and having them breathe a little bit of, oxygen.

And, just from a nasal cannulus. And what this does, the perfusion pressure of the increased heart rate gets this out into the periphery, gets their circulation working. Get oxygen to the brain. Get oxygen to the tissues. That's the enemy of cancer.

You know, healthy circulation and oxygen and low a low sugar environment, low glycemic environment, and a and a relatively high pH environment in the blood, higher end of the pH scale for the blood. That's a cancer free environment. Wow.

Thank you. You're welcome. Alright, Gary. We're back from the break, and, so I did a a I I I gave a bunch of blood, when I was down there

for your

podcast, and we're gonna go over that. And I'm a little nervous, but, you're doing fine. You're gonna give me a life estimation? Yeah.

I'm not gonna predict your life expectancy. Alright. That's fine. I've only done that once since I left that career, and that was for Dana White. But, but I will tell you how you're gonna live a longer, healthier, happier life.

Dude, you're not you're not bad at all. You're not bad at all. And first off, when when we when we look at blood work, I I wanna preface this by saying, I'm not a physician. I'm not licensed to practice medicine. I don't wanna give anybody medical advice.

It's also important to to just note for the podcast that a licensed physician did meet with you before the podcast. Doctor Carrie Sarta went through your blood. The recommendations I'm gonna talk about are her recommendations, and she is a licensed to practice medicine. What what I would prefer to do is is talk about how how do you how do you read these? How do you interpret a lot of these numbers?

What should people look for in their blood work? What should they be asking their doctor to look at? Blood work is excellent because blood gives you data, and it's hard to put any kind of actionable plan in place until you have data. Right? And most people when I talk to them, I speak at a lot of conferences, stage talks, you know, podcasts, whatever.

If you ask people, what's more important, your business or your health? 99% of them will say my health. If you ask them, what's more important to you, money or or your health, your your wellness, your well-being? They'll say my well-being, my health. But then when you really dig deep and you go, well, do you own your own business?

Yeah. What did your business make last month? Oh, $622,000. What was your net profit? 700 79,400.

How many employees do you have? 17. What's your average revenue per employee? 58,400 per head. Okay.

What's your hemoglobin a 1 c? Blank. Where's your testosterone? Blank. What's your vitamin d 3 level?

No idea. So you realize very quickly that while they think they prioritize their health, they really don't. People have been, guilted, in my opinion, into thinking that being selfish, like putting themselves first is very selfish. It's actually very selfless. I really encourage people, and I do this as a as a practice, to give yourself a certain time during the day.

So for me, the first 90 minutes of every single day belongs only to me. It doesn't belong to my family, it doesn't belong to my spouse, my my clients, my career, my partners, no 1. It belongs only to me. After that 90 minutes, I give the rest of my day away. So I really cater to my wife, I cater to my kids, I cater to my my business, my clients.

I have a lot of private clients, and I really pour myself into them. But my my staff knows that all of my meetings and travel get scheduled around sleep and exercise. I didn't get here today until 10 o'clock this morning, but I got up at 6:30 this morning. I flew in last night at a decent hour, so I could get decent sleep. So I prioritize my meetings and travel around sleep and exercise, and always the first 90 minutes of my day belongs to me.

This morning I did some breath work, I got some sunlight, I had a really good breakfast, then I went down to the gym and got a 60 minute workout at the gym. I think if people just made that 1 shift in their life, because in in veterans for some reason are especially prone to this. It's called caregiver syndrome. It's where they prioritize the needs of everybody else in their life ahead of their needs. And I think this might stem from the training, where when I'm certain in seal training, and I don't pretend to have any view into that, but very myopically, you're if you're thinking about the needs of your comrades first, and they're thinking about your needs first, that's an excellent recipe for survival.

But in the real world, we have to prioritize ourselves. And putting yourself first is not selfish selfish. It's very selfless. And so the best place to start is with the blood work. Right?

Because what's not in your blood is somebody else's opinion. And if you ask an opinion about why you're not sleeping, why you have weight gain, water retention, you know, depression, anxiety, poor sleep, any number of things, You're gonna get a 1,000 different opinions. This will only tell 1 story. It will only give you a fact pattern. And there's 3 things you should look at in your blood work.

You should look at your hormone balance, your glycemic profile. How well are you controlling your blood sugar, which is your glucose, your hemoglobin a 1 c, and your insulin. And you should look at nutrient deficiencies. I'm gonna point those out in here. Specifically vitamin d 3, b 12, some of the big ones, DHEA.

So when you when you when you look at, blood work, and hopefully this will be up on the screen, it usually starts with something called the CBC, which stands for complete blood count. So this is where we go into the contents of your blood, and we count up the contents of your blood. How many white blood cells do you have? How many red blood cells do you have? So in your case, your white blood cell count is in the normal range, which is great.

I'm gonna come back to that in a second. But at the top of of this, you see that your, we're starting to look at how well you control your blood sugar. The first thing we look at is fasting glucose. So your fasting glucose is 99. It's a little on the high side.

But the most important 1 is this 1 right here, hemoglobin a 1 c. This is the 3 month average of your blood sugar. If you ate a box of donuts the morning you took this blood, it wouldn't have moved this number. You fasted for 2 days before you did this blood work, it wouldn't move this number. It's a 3 month average.

You really want this number to be around 5.2 or lower.

What is

it? 5.5. At 5.6, you become pre diabetic. 44% of this country is pre diabetic. 18% of teenagers have pre diabetes.

And so I'm sorry. 44% of teenagers have prediabetes. 18% of teenagers have fatty liver disease. So if you wanna talk about what is the most controllable factor in our lives that is the biggest contributor to all forms of disease and pathology, it would be rampantly uncontrolled blood sugar. And it is silent, and you don't feel it, and it causes you to overeat, causes you to gain weight, causes you to retain water, it it causes an increased risk of cardiovascular disease, causes inflammation, all kinds of things.

So hemoglobin a 1 c is the 3 month average of our blood sugar, and then in the in the latter part of your labs, you'll see, insulin. Your insulin is the breakdown in the single low single digits at 6.3. That's good. You're not insulin resistant. You are insulin sensitive.

So what are a couple of ways that I could go about lowering the 3 month average of my blood sugar? There's a route that you can take called berberine, which has actually been shown in similar side by side clinical trials to be as effective, if not more effective than metformin, which is what they give to type 2 diabetics to control blood sugar. You aren't at the place where you need medication or anything. Berberine would be excellent for you to take with with meals. The other thing to do is to watch your high glycemic foods.

High glycemic foods are foods that you eat that are not the obvious sugary sweet foods that actually spike your blood sugar. Ideally, you want your sugar to look like rolling hills throughout the day. Most people's sugar looks like a heart monitor. K? When your sugar spikes, your insulin spikes.

When your sugars fall, you get very hungry. On the way down, we trigger hunger. So the more your blood sugar travels, the hungrier you are more often, the more you overeat. This is why people that eat the most sugar have the highest blood fat. People that eat the most sugar have a tendency to gain weight the easiest.

The other thing that happens when we eat a lot of high glycemic foods. What are high glycemic foods? Like white flour, white rice, white bread, pasta, potatoes, and then the obvious cakes, cookies, pastries, pies, brownies, the obvious ones that taste really sweet. The ones that aren't so obvious are the are the breads and the pastas and the rices and things that we eat a lot of, that we don't combine with proteins that that spike our blood sugar. So I tell people, for 10 weeks, just try to get the whites out of your diet.

Flour, rice, bread, pasta, white potatoes, sweet potatoes are fine, and then the obvious sugars out of your diet. The other thing you can do is take berberine, which is a root, which helps really, really, really is very, very good at controlling, blood sugar. So lowering your hemoglobin a 1 c is 1 of the best ways to, put yourself in a state of reducing all kinds of consequences down the road. The other thing that is excellent for blood sugar is muscle mass. The sponge for glucose in the body is your muscles.

Our muscles are a sponge for sugars. More muscle mass you have, the better you are absorbing and maintaining and controlling your blood sugar. People that are very frail, very susceptible to type 2 diabetes, to rampantly high high blood sugar. So, there's actually some evidence that instead of doing 1 45 minute walk in the morning, 3 15 minute walks spread throughout the day right after meals is better at controlling your blood sugar than that. A lot of things that we can do that we have control over, like eating a meal, going for a 15 minute walk, are really recipes for longevity.

As you move down in your blood work here and you see these this little section here looking at your kidneys, you'll see something called bun, creatinine, and eGFR. This is looking at your kidney health. Blood urea nitrogen and creatinine, for lack of better words, they're kind of the kidney waste products that you want to filter out of the blood. You don't like to see these rising in the blood. In your case, they're not.

So your kidneys are doing a good job filtering the blood. The question is, how much stress are the kidneys under? And you can get that number from something called eGFR. This is your glomerular filtration rate. This tells you the rate at which blood is moving through your kidneys.

K? The higher the filtration rate, the faster the blood's moving through your kidneys. So think about this. The full volume of blood in your body goes through your kidneys 15 times every day. What happens if your kidneys get inflamed or irritated?

They they you have inflammation. The filtration rate slows down. As the filtration rate slows down, the poison level rises. So your kidneys are actually very, very healthy. 1 of the secrets to maintaining healthy kidneys is just staying properly hydrated, controlling your blood pressure.

So this is why I tell people, you gotta hydrate and mineralize your first thing in the morning. You know, 10 ounces of water, quarter teaspoon of Baja Gold Sea Salt. Then you get your electrolytes. So what's really interesting about these is, very often when your sodium levels get too low, below 136, I have seen very often in our clinic system, patients complain of regular morning headaches. There's an interesting study I'll put the link to below on migraine headaches, which found an inverse relationship between sodium and migraine headaches.

What does this mean? That as sodium levels went down, the frequency of migraine headaches went up. I've seen this in hundreds of my clients where I actually give them mineral sea salts in the morning, and their migraine headaches go away. I'm not saying every migraine headache is related to sodium deficiency. But when you think about it, if you have a headache, k, where is that coming from?

It's not coming from your brain. There are no pain receptors in the brain. The brain is not capable of transmitting a pain signal. So when you actually have a headache, it's not coming from behind your eye or from the the brain's temple or occipital or frontal lobes. It's not coming from the brain.

Where is it coming from? It's coming from the covering of the brain. It's called the dura. The dura hates 2 things. It hates being stretched, and it hates being contracted.

What determines whether or not it's stretching or contracting? Sodium gradient. We have been taught to fear sodium. We've been told sodium is very dehydrating. Nothing could be further from the truth.

K? Not an iodized table salt. I'm not talking about that junk. I'm talking about a good mineral salt, like a Baja Gold salt. And why why is that?

Well, they're just think about this way. If you were if you were so dehydrated right this moment that you landed in the emergency room, the very first thing they would give you is a saline IV. Why would they give you saline if it's dehydrating? Well, because it's not. If you had life threateningly high blood pressure and you called 911, when the paramedics arrived to your house, they would start a bag of IV fluids, and they would squeeze saline fluid into your bloodstream to lower your blood pressure.

So, the fear of salt, in in my opinion, is is is misguided. And this will tell you where your sodium is so you don't have to guess. Your sodiums get low. Adding a mineral salt is excellent. You can also see your magnesium levels, your potassium levels here.

Those are super easy things to supplement with. So yours are all within range. When you get down here and you see this word alkaline phosphatase. Alkaline phosphatase, for lack of better words, is a is a liver waste product. So we don't like to see this rise in the blood either.

The liver should be keeping this level, at the low end of the range. So your alkaline phosphatase levels are fine. But when I look at the liver enzymes, they're elevated. So liver enzymes, alanine, transaminase. AST and ALT are liver enzymes.

So what does this mean? How irritated or how inflamed is the liver? So 1 of the supplements that doctor Sartre recommended for you is milk thistle, selenium. Maybe we can even put the supplements she recommended right in the show notes. So if people have these kinds of conditions.

The other thing that's really good for elevated liver enzymes is glutathione, the master antioxidant in the human body. The liver makes glutathione. It's the master antioxidant in the body. It resides in every single cell in the human body. And when the liver gets stressed, it reduces its production of glutathione.

So the milk thistle and the, and and the, liver support that she's putting you on from Thorne, it's a company called Thorne, which I have no affiliation with, should help to address this slight amount of inflammation that you've got in the liver.

What what would be causing that inflammation?

So the main offender is alcohol. I know that's not the offender in you, but the main offender for, liver inflammation is alcohol. Because it's not the alcohol itself, it's what the alcohol becomes. Alcohol is converted into something called acetaldehyde, which makes your blood pH very low, very acidic, and this irritates the the the liver. But don't forget, the liver's filtering out everything.

The liver is like if you want any organ on team Ryan, you want the liver. Right? It can take over the function of other organs. It makes cholesterol. It it breaks up, amino acids.

It takes, sugar out of the blood and stores it as a storage form of sugar called glycogen. It can take stored sugar, turn it back into sugar, and put actual glucose into the blood. If you're low on blood sugar, it can actually feed sugar into the blood by taking stored sugar called glycogen through a process called gluconeogenesis. It can create, sugar. The this this is filtering out pharmaceuticals, Acetaminophen, Tylenols, Ibuprofins are very difficult on the litter liver.

Lots of pharmaceutical compounds put pressure on the liver. And then, of course, all of the major offenders like the seed oils and the highly processed foods put a lot of pressure on the liver to filter those things out. Pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, glyphosate, glyphosate, preservatives. This is why I tell people try to shop the perimeter of your grocery store. Stay out of the aisles as much as you can because that's where you're gonna get the processed nonsense.

And as soon as you have any amount of financial flexibility in in in your budget, just start to buy organic. Right? As much as you can. Mhmm.

Did you did you say sugar too

on the liver? Sugar, not so much of an offender for liver enzymes. That's gonna raise your hemoglobin, a 1 c. What sugar will do is actually cause your cholesterol levels to rise. So think about this.

When we eat sugar or things that raise our our blood sugar very quickly, which people know that sugar is the offender, but they they don't think about, like, the breads and the pastas and the cereals and the grains and and the things that don't taste sweet, but spike your your blood sugar. So when your blood sugar rises, insulin rises. The thing about insulin is majority of people think that the primary role of insulin is to lower blood sugar. That's actually not true. The primary role of insulin, although it does lower blood sugar, it allows blood to go into the cell.

1 of the things that insulin does as its primary role is it blocks any other form of energy use in the body. So what does this mean? This means when insulin is high, you cannot burn fat. So if you've eaten a high sugar and high fat meal, and your insulin spikes, what's happening to that fat? Where does the fat go?

It goes into the bloodstream. It shows up in the bloodstream as a triglyceride. High blood fat and high cholesterol is a recipe for disaster. Low blood fat and high LDL cholesterol is a recipe for longevity. So in other words, if I want to maintain healthy levels of cholesterol, I wanna maintain low levels of triglyceride blood fat.

The way I lower my triglycerides is I lower the amount of sugar. Sugar is the enemy, man. I'm telling you. The bible should say, sugar is the root of all evil, not the love of money. Because people are not dying because they love money.

They are dying from blood sugar. And it kills you slowly over time.

So for me, with the liver, it would probably be

processed foods. Yep. Highly processed foods. Yep. Highly processed foods.

A form of, vitamin b 12 called cyanocobalamin can be very irritating to the liver. You know, we put a lot of shit on our skin that not only disrupt our disrupts our hormones, but it also has to be filtered out by the liver. Everything from colognes and, and shampoos, and conditioners, to all kinds of cheap lotions, sunscreens that we put on our skin. As that stuff enters our bloodstream, the liver has to filter it out. So if you reduce the toxic load on your body, you reduce the toxic load on the on on the liver.

So, hydrogen water, the supplement we're gonna put you on with the milk thistle and some other, herbs to really ease, the liver. Glutathione is excellent for your liver. These are very inexpensive, supplements that people can get right right over the counter. Your iron, looks good. You have healthy amounts of iron in your blood.

It's also binding to the right sites very well. Your total iron there's something here called TIBC, total iron binding capacity. I kinda I kinda think of this level as a dump truck. As as you empty out a dump truck, right, its capacity actually goes up. So as you reduce the iron, as you use it up, then your total iron binding capacity increases.

As you empty out the bed of the truck, the truck has more capacity. So, your your levels of iron in your blood are fine. Most men don't have iron deficiency. Women very often, especially if they have heavy menstrual cycle, will sometimes need to supplement with something called iron disglycinate, which is an iron supplement that helps negate the effects of of heavy menstruation. Men, for the most part, shouldn't be taking iron.

It

has a tendency to build up in their bloodstream, not, not the opposite. You got a little bit of excess b 12 here. It's usually not something to worry about. B 12 is a metal, light metal in the body. It's also water soluble, so you have a tendency to urinate it out.

And what is your d 3 level here? 30? Wow. 99. That's actually not bad at all.

So vitamin d 3, this is another 1 that, you should have. You know, if if you're if you're watching this podcast right now, you wanna get your d 3 level checked. Functional ranges for d 3 are between 60 80 nanograms per deciliter. Lots and lots and lots of research on this. That 60 to 80 nanograms per deciliter is the optimal range for vitamin d 3.

There are studies that link this to reduced incidence of breast cancer in women. It's linked to all kinds of improvements in immune function. The range is from 30 to a100. Most people are actually below 30, but your doctor will tell you if you're at 30.1 that you're good. But that's not true.

You don't wanna just be normal. You wanna be in the optimal range. So that's 60 to 80 nanograms. So here's something that's gonna sound really controversial. So your cholesterol is 238, which most physicians are gonna consider high.

This is where I'm gonna run into a lot of conflict. Your LDL cholesterol is 170, but your triglycerides are just over a 100. So very often, and this isn't a full cholesterol panel, it's not the amount of cholesterol in your blood that matters. It's the size of the cholesterol molecule. Most people think more cholesterol, more cardiovascular disease.

That is not necessarily true. Higher LDL cholesterol on its own is not the link to cardiovascular disease. If you have high LDL cholesterol and high triglycerides, this is very bad. Keeping your triglycerides low and the particle size of LDL cholesterol large, this is a recipe for longevity. There are also other markers that were not tested in here, lipo little a, lipo b, which I I won't get into on the podcast.

But in general, you want low triglycerides, below 149, and slightly elevated levels of LDL cholesterol. This, in our mortality space, was a marker for longevity. The people that lived the longest had low triglycerides and high LDL cholesterol.

Is that what I have?

Yep. That's exactly what you have. Your HDL cholesterol, your high density lipoprotein, which tells me you're getting healthy fats, you're not afraid of avocados, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts, probably grass fed butter. I can see those things in your diet. Those that's your healthy high density lipoprotein.

That's your healthy levels of cholesterol. Your numbers are excellent. So, I mean, dude, overall, you're you're you're you're doing well. We wanna try to control the blood sugar a little bit. It'd be nice to lower your your, it would be nice to to, lower your hemoglobin a 1 c.

Here's a couple other interesting markers. This 1 is called c reactive protein. It's generally considered a marker for cardiovascular risk. If you're above 3, you have a high risk. If you're between, 2 or 1 and 3, you have a moderate risk.

If you're below 1, you have a very low risk. But you're at point 47. That's great. C reactive protein. If there again, if you're listening to this podcast, you should have your c reactive protein checked.

It's a nonspecific marker of inflammation. It's kind of the liver's reaction to inflammation somewhere in the body. It doesn't tell you exactly where it's coming from, but you can take a deeper dive if this number is high. 1 of the things that we found in our clinical practice to lower c reactive protein is using something called a gut binder. Activated charcoal, silica clay, or a zeolite binder.

Those things have a tendency to get into the gut and absorb histamines, absorb inflammatory factors and help carry them out. We've seen very good results. Ken, I'm not a physician. I can just tell you what we've seen in our clinical practice. Using gut binders, activated charcoal, silica clay, zeolite binders, has had a very positive effect in in my experience observing, patients in in our clinical practice.

This is the silent 1 that nobody looks at, homocysteine. We really want homocysteine to be in the single digits. What is homocysteine? This is 1 of the easiest markers for you to control. And so many people have high homocysteine, and they're suffering because of it.

Homocysteine is an amino acid. It's in everybody's blood. As it's cruising by the inside lining of the artery, if it gets too high, it irritates the artery. When you irritate an artery, it clamps down. And if you make the pipes smaller in a fixed system, that system is fixed.

Right? So if I make the pipes smaller, pressure goes up. So is it possible that your blood pressure is high, not because there's something wrong with your heart, but because you have this elevated amino acid? The research says yes. Because if I make the pipe smaller, my pressure goes up.

And now I'm medicating my heart when really I could take an amino acid called trimethylglycine, which we're putting you on, TMG. This amino acid helps the body metabolize homocysteine. As homocysteine drops, there's a lot of evidence that it relaxes the arterial and vascular system, and pressure returns to normal. This is what happened in Dana White. We treated Dana White.

His blood pressure was really high. Nothing wrong with the heart. Lowered this insanely high level of homocysteine, and his blood pressure returned to normal. Again, I'm not saying that's the only reason for high blood pressure, but you should have that number checked because it's very, very easy to treat. Homocysteine's lead are linked to increased, you know, headaches, poor circulation, poor eyesight, increased blood pressure.

It causes endothelial damage. It causes damage to the lining of the artery. When you get damage to the artery, cholesterol shows up. Cholesterol shows up. You start getting the narrowing, but it's not because of cholesterol.

It's because of the damage. So homocysteine is 1 of the simplest things that you can measure and very easy to control. So you're taking something called TMG for that. And where am I at on that? You're 11.6.

The high end of the range is 14a half. ICD's in the twenties. High twenties, low thirties all the time. You really want this in single digits. Okay.

Right? Very easy to get down into the single digits. Then we get to to thyroid. So here's here's what's interesting about thyroid. So just a quick quick lesson about the thyroid.

The thyroid doesn't determine how much hormone it secretes. K? It has a boss, like almost everything in the body. The testicles don't sup don't decide how much testosterone they secrete. They have a boss.

It's the same boss, it's the pituitary. So there's a master regulator up here, puppeteer, that's kinda controlling everything. So the pituitary sends a signal to the thyroid called thyroid stimulating hormone, then the thyroid starts to produce 2 hormones, t 4. I'm being a little simplified, t 4 and t 3. What these do is they control your metabolism, your body temperature, they regulate the amount of, the pituitary also regulates the amount of, testosterone that your body produces.

In women, it men it regulates their entire menstrual cycle. There's something called luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormone. It will move a woman through the 3 phases of their menstrual cycle. So, the signal from the pituitary to the thyroid is fine. The question is, what is the thyroid doing?

Well, it's producing these 2 hormones. It produces the majority, close to all of the thyroid t 4. It only produces 20% of the t 3. The rest of that t 3 is t 4 converted into t 3, which happens outside of the thyroid. This is what we talked about earlier, but it's important to know this.

That it is in deiodinized in the liver, the gut, and the periphery. So the majority of your t 3 hormone is not produced by your thyroid. So when it is low, do not assume that your thyroid is dysfunctional. Assume you have deficiencies outside of the thyroid. Before you start taking thyroid medication and medicating the thyroid for a crime it didn't commit, try supporting healthy metabolism of thyroid t 3 outside of the thyroid.

So selenium, thiamine, iodine, all levels that you can check. Methylated multivitamins, methyl folate. These are all excellent things to help with the process of creating this hormone outside the thyroid. I can't tell you how many thousands of patients have come through our clinic and thanked our doctors for fixing their thyroid, and the doctor has to remind them, I didn't fix your thyroid. There's nothing wrong with your thyroid.

I fixed, the turnover at t 4 into t 3 outside of your thyroid. Wow. Okay? Wow. So it very often, this happens in medicine, blood pressure high, must be the heart.

Can't find anything wrong with the heart, medicate it anyway. Thyroid hormones low, must be the thyroid. Can't find anything wrong with the thyroid, medicate it anyway. Then we follow this sequence of events very, very often. Mental illness, imbalance in neurotransmitters, medicate it anyway.

Don't fix the neurotransmitter imbalance, medicate. You know, blood viscosity is too high. Don't just do regular blood dumps. You know, thin the blood chemically. You know, the so very often, we if we just get back to the basics and understand the physiology of the body, we can fix a lot of these things without having to rely on chemicals and synthetics.

Some good news for you. Your prostate looks great. You know, PSA, prostate specific antigen, it's kind of a measure of the inflammation in the prostate. Lots of men have something called BPH, benign prostatic hyperplasia, which is where you get inflammation in the prostate, get some urinary flow issues. Things that are great for this are turmeric, curcumin, lots of prostate supplements that are very, very good at reducing prostate inflammation.

You do not have that. 1 of the things I caution people against is taking the some of the oral forms of these medications, like finasteride and Propecia, which a lot of men will take for male pattern baldness, but then it just kills their sex drive and it knocks out their libido. So they're trying to grow back their hair to attract the ladies, and then they can't get an erection or can't maintain an erection. So if you are taking Propecia or finasteride for male pattern baldness, just know that you can get it in liquid format and apply it directly to the scalp and not have so much of it go into your bloodstream. Very it's much better to apply topically, you know, in my opinion, than than it is to take it orally.

It's designed to to reduce the level of something called DHT, dihydrotestosterone, which binds to the hair follicle and chokes it out. So, as we traverse down here a little further, there's a marker here called IGF 1, insulin like growth factor. Amongst other things, this is a secondary marker of growth hormone in your body. When this number gets low, instead of taking human growth hormone, you can actually take a peptide. There are there are, legal and some FDA approved, peptides to raise your growth hormone level naturally.

Remember when I said that when you produce hormones, usually, there's a boss that determines how much hormone you produce. So growth hormone is produced by the pituitary. But the pituitary has a boss called the hypothalamus. And what it does is it turns the pituitary's production of growth hormone on and off. You can mimic this signal with the growth hormone peptide.

These are amino acid peptides that will rewind your pituitary to a more youthful level of growth hormone secretion. They're generally considered safe. 1 of the oldest ones is called surmoorlin. I think it was first approved by the FDA in 1983, so we have decades of experience with these peptides. They're amino acids.

They're metabolites. The body recognizes them. They have a tendency not to create a dependency, not to create tachyphylaxis, which is a desensitization response. I think they're they're, generally considered to be safer than taking growth hormone from outside the body and putting it in. You can cycle them very safely, 5 days on, 2 days off, according to the research.

So talk to your doctor if your IGF 1 is low about raising your own production of growth hormone from your own pituitary. I mean, I don't care what anybody tells you. There is no better hormone in the human body than 1 that the body produces on its own. And so, if I can get you high on your own supply, rather than taking it from outside the body and putting it in, that's a win. Right?

You're already clearly on hormone therapy. Your body is behaving the way that it should because you raise testosterone, you raise free testosterone, the pituitary shuts down your own natural testicular production. How does it do that? It lowers these 2 hormones, luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormone. So this is a very natural response that you like to see.

As testosterone goes up, the pituitary turns the signal down. So that's what happened. You inject testosterone, pituitary turns the signal down. Perfectly normal response in in the body. DHEA, believe it or not, this is another 1 that, is really good to check because lots of men that have low levels of testosterone are clinically deficient in DHEA.

DHEA, dihydryepiandrosterone, is basically the precursor for testosterone. Amongst other things, we make testosterone from this compound. So when this is low, it can lead to low hormone levels, even though there's nothing wrong with your ability to make hormones. You just don't have the raw material to do it. So in men and women, DHEA is a great 1 to check.

It's also super easy to supplement with. When you're on testosterone therapy, there are powerful compounds called aromatase inhibitors that they usually put you on to lower your production of estrogen, anastrozole, exemestane, other ones. But a very natural way to get test estrogen out of a male or female bloodstream without, pharmaceuticals is something called DIM, d I m, diindolomethane. It is synthesized from cruciferous vegetables. Synthesized from something called 3 indol carbinol in cruciferous vegetables.

So taking dim, which is over the counter, if you have elevated estrogen or you're trying to control your estrogen, that's another thing to talk to your doctor about. Much safer than being on, pharmaceuticals. Alright. I know I'm throwing a lot at you. My wife says I just eat people's face, so I feel like

she's like, literally, you just

I mean, god forbid you sit next to me on, like, a commercial

flight. I eat your face.

We we actually flew from, from Miami to, to to Dallas, a while ago. And, and so my wife and my son and my daughter sat in the row of 3 seats behind me, and I sit down on the aisle seat in front of them, and there's a dude sitting in the middle seat. So I sit down. I'm like, oh, hey. You know, I'm just making some old talk.

I'm like, well, what do you do?

And he goes, oh, I'm a family medicine practitioner. I'm a sleep apnea specialist.

Oh, man.

I go, oh, are you? And, my wife literally sandwiches her face between the seat, and she goes, he's gonna eat your face. And I did, dude. I put the tray table down so he couldn't get out. I had a 3 ring binder.

I pulled it out.

I go,

let me ask you a few questions, Doug. It was so funny. 3 hours, I just hate that poor dude's face. He actually wanted to work for me what time it ended. So it ended up pretty good.

Okay. Last few things here, man. Another thing you wanna look at on a hormone panel, which is very often overlooked is this guy right here, SHBG, sex hormone binding globulin. Stands for sex hormone binding protein. It does exactly what its name says it does.

It it is a protein that binds to sex hormones. Why is that important? Because when this rises in men and women, it inhibits the conversion of testosterone into free testosterone. And what it does is it makes it look like your hormone levels are low. When they're not, you're producing adequate levels.

It's just this nasty protein is binding to it and carrying it out of the bloodstream. They use SHBG as birth control in women. So, you know, whenever you look at labs on a female that's on birth control, very often their SHBG is through the roof. K? That's normal.

When that protein rises in a man, if they don't check it, they put them on hormone therapy unnecessarily because SHBG, binds to the testosterone and basically carries it out of the bloodstream without it being utilized. So how do you lower SHBG? There's a couple ways to do it. 1 of the best ways that we found to lower SHBG is by taking the mineral boron. It's over the counter, and lots of supplement companies produce it.

So our clinical team puts men that have high SHBG on boron. As their SHBG comes down, women too, the free testosterone rises. So it's almost like being put on hormone therapy because you get your own natural supply back. So when you do a hormone panel, you've got to look at luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, testosterone, free testosterone, DHEA, and SHBG, sex hormone binding globulin. Because if you're not looking at those, you're only looking at the hormone.

This is where very young men, 21, 22, 23 year old men that should never be on testosterone get put on injectable testosterone. Now they're relying on it for the rest of their life, and they can't get their their their wife pregnant when it's time to have kids. Because taking testosterone also loads the sperm count. Right? You you think of the testicles kinda like a yin and yang sense sign.

1 produce 1 side produces sperm, 1 side produces testosterone. Pituitary usually drops the production of both in the presence of testosterone. So once you start injecting it, it lowers luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone, which lowers the production of testosterone and sperm. Right? So 1 of the ways to avoid that is getting your SHBG checked.

Then final thing here, man. Your white blood cell count is in the normal range. I wanna call your attention to the next levels here. RBC, hemoglobin, hematocrit. These are super important.

Because remember I talked earlier about how your red blood cell count, this is what carries oxygen in your blood. Everything that you perceive about energy is nothing more than oxygen in your blood. If you told me, Gary, I had a lot of energy today. Physiologically, what you're saying is, I had a lot of oxygen in my blood today. So if oxygen equals energy, which it does, if I'm gonna raise your energy level, I need to raise your oxygen level.

How do I do that? I improve the amount of red blood cells in the bloodstream, and I improve the amount of hemoglobin in the bloodstream. How do you do that? You restore testosterone levels to normal, and that will increase the production of red blood cells. I have hardly seen I don't think I don't know if I could say I've never seen it, but very rarely have I seen a client that had very low levels of testosterone, clinically low levels of testosterone that did not have clinically low levels of red blood cell, and also complained of fatigue, exhaustion, poor short term short term memory, poor focus and concentration.

If if you want the latest research, Google American Journal of Urology, which is considered the bible for male endocrine therapy. Just put into the Google search engine, American Journal of Urology Space Testosterone. Scroll down to section, 13, and it will say, clinical guidelines for testosterone therapy. Read from 13 to 21, you will be sold on male hormone therapy. They dispel all the myths in this journal.

It's a peer reviewed clinical journal. All the research is cited there, don't take my word for it, that low testosterone is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, not the other way around. Testosterone does not increase your risk of of or hormone therapy does not increase your risk of cardiovascular disease. Hormone therapy does not increase your risk of developing prostate cancer or exacerbating prostate cancer. It can improve erectile dysfunction, anemia, bone mineral loss, mood.

All of that research is right in there between sections 13 and 21. Journal of American Urology, Space, Testosterone. That's 1 of the most revered journals in in in the world, which is why I send people there. If you're a physician and you disagree with that, go to that journal and all the research is cited. So you want your red blood cell count to be in the upper end of the normal range.

And then you wanna keep an eye on hemoglobin, which is the fluid in the red blood cell. You want that towards the upper end of the range. And you keep an eye on something called hematocrit. Hematocrit is a measure of your blood's viscosity. It tells me how close is your blood to water, or how close is your blood to motor oil.

As your hematocrit rises, your blood is thickening. Easiest way to reduce the viscosity of the blood without blood thinners is to do regular blood donations. We call it therapeutic phlebotomy. If you are taking testosterone therapy, your doctor should probably be recommending that you do regular blood donations. This for men is very healthy.

Right? If you look at the incidence of cardiovascular disease between men and women, you'll see that men lead women by a huge margin until women stop menstruating. Then there's a parabolic hockey stick spike, and they begin to approximate men in the incidence of cardiovascular disease. Why is that? Because they stopped turning their blood over.

Right? So doing regular blood donations for men is very healthy, unless you have something going on.

Not doing that. Does it show that I I'm not doing that? I should be doing that. Yes. What is it?

What is regular?

Every 3 to 6 months.

Okay.

Yeah. Your hematocrit is 50.2, which is considered pretty thick. At 51, you're a tenths of a point away from being clinic having clinically thick blood. Okay. Right?

So being clinically out of the range. What you will notice, you'll feel better right away. Okay. Lots of clinics will also if you're 1 of those people that gets lightheaded from donating blood, you're not getting lightheaded from the loss of blood. You're getting lightheaded from the loss of pressure, because the amount of pressure in the system is fixed.

So if I pull a pint of fluid out, the pressure drops, you get lightheaded. So the way to solve that is to talk to your doctor about, running an IV. Put 500 milliliters of just thin clean fluid in, then put the bag below the level of the heart. Pull 480 to 500 milliliters of thick old tired blood out. The pressure will remain the same.

Okay. The viscosity will change. So, that's I see our clinical team do that a lot. Last thing I'll point out is at the bottom of your white blood cell count. This goes overlooked very often.

These are in a specific order for a reason. Neutrophils, basophils, lymphocytes, monocytes, eosinophils, all these fancy names for white blood cells. You should see these numbers, like we do in you, be highest at the top, The next number should be lower. The next number should be lower than that. Lower than that.

Lower than that. And eventually, they should come to a 0. That v shaped pattern is a very important pattern. It says how well oriented your immune system is. We judge the strength of the immune system amongst other things by how it lines up and gets ready to fight.

How many soldiers do I have on the field of battle waiting for the enemy to show up? Your front line of defense right here is your neutrophils. You have plenty of neutrophils. The numbers get smaller and smaller and smaller, and they go down to 0. As the numbers towards the bottom get elevated, it usually indicates some kind of chronic problem.

Metals, mold, mycotoxin, viruses. Okay? That's when you wanna make an inspection. You've got zeros at the bottom, that's a great sign. If you've got numbers at the bottom of your white blood cell count, talk to your doctor about digging into why you have, potentially, have a chronic infection.

You will find that lots of people that have viral infections are misdiagnosed with neurological conditions. It is very common for Parkinson's to be misdiagnosed when it can be a West Nile or a Lyme disease infection or another, virus. It's well documented in the literature that the symptoms of a lot of neurological diseases parallel the symptoms of chronic viral conditions. So it's always good if you get diagnosed with something chronic to say, let's check for metals, mold, mycotoxins, and and viruses. And let's just see if my body is not behaving properly because I have pathogenic invader.

So I would always talk to your doctor before you accept any of those chronic diagnoses about looking into whether or not you have some underlying condition. Like Okay. Like viruses. Dude, overall, I I got man, your age of kill to have these labs. Given your history that you disclosed to me on the podcast, I hear you.

Well, that makes me feel good.

You're doing you're doing really well, brother. Thank you. You're doing you're doing very well. Thank you. K.

Last thing we'll do is, look at these, look at the genetic testing results that you have. Oh, boy. This may come as a shock to you, but you have the motherfucker gene. So next time somebody calls you on, say, as a matter of fact, I am. So, these genes that are yellow.

Okay. When we look at genetic reports, they come out all kinds of different ways, but we generally wanna see our, our genes green, which means neither the mom or dad passed the mutation on to us passed that genetic predisposition. When they're yellow, it usually means that 1 parent gave us the gene mutation. When they're red, which you do not have, it means that both parents gave you the gene mutation. So in a nutshell, you have a genetic predisposition for 3 things.

Then you have a genetic predisposition to be very poor at processing folic acid. You would be 1 of those people that would be really good to get folic acid out of your diet. This does not mean that you can't eat bread pasta cereal grains. It means you have to eat the organic, non fortified, non enriched versions of those. Okay?

So if you see fortified or enriched on the label, just get it out of the diet. This is the thing I warn a lot of parents about too. Just get fortified or enriched foods out of your kid's diet for 1 week. Watch what happens. You're gonna be shocked at the behavioral changes.

So what would this cause in you? Cause your intestinal motility to slow down, so intermittent gut issues that can't be explained by what you're eating. It also inhibits your ability to, metabolize homocysteine, which is why your homocysteine is slightly risen. At the high end, you have a gene mutation called COMPT, catechol O Methyltransferase. This gene mutation makes it slow for you to break down catecholamines.

You are absolutely 1 of those people, which probably 70% of your your listeners, when your environment quiets, your mind wakes up. When you lay down and go to sleep at night, you have 1 of 2 types of sleep patterns. You either lay down tired and your mind keeps you awake and you have a hard time falling asleep, or you fall asleep and once you wake up at night, that's it. You just sort of lay there just ruminating, and you will think about the most innocuous nonsense. It will not be like a life changing or shattering thought.

This is not like divorce, bankruptcy, financial ruin, change of business, career. It's none of those big life changing events that should keep you awake. It's little innocuous nonsense. Just runs through your head. The best way to quiet that is with magnesium at night, 5 Methylfolate at night, and there's a supplement called neuromodola complex.

Excellent for quieting no squirrels and just allowing your brain to calm down at night.

Okay. Cool? Perfect.

But, dude, I I'm telling you, I got 42, 43 year old men that would kill to have these labs.

So, that makes me feel good. You're in. Thank you.

Yeah. You're in. Thanks, Jay. And I hope that wasn't too much of a science lesson because a lot of times they're especially, like, in presentations, they're like, you know, don't talk about the science. Well, they say don't talk about science, religion, or politics.

And I think we're talking about all the science, religion, and politics. Man.

Well, Gary, we're wrapping up the interview here. I know you got a flight to catch. Yeah. This is amazing, man. Man, what a I'm gonna have I never go back and listen to my podcasts, and, very few have I done that with.

And and, I'll be listening to this probably several times just to just to remind myself to to keep on the right track, and and, it's just so full of information.

And Thank you.

And, you know, it was an honor to meet you and have you here, and, and, I hope we remain friends.

Yeah. Oh, we're definitely gonna remain friends. I mean, it was a real and honor, you know, real honor for me to be here too, man. I super appreciate you inviting me, have me on your show, exposing me to your audience. You know, my intention was to add some value today, so I hope they got value out of it.

But We definitely got plenty. I wanna come back to the new studio too, brother.

Well, I'll invite you.

Built the woods, and we can fire off some weapons.

Oh, yeah. We'll we'll have you out. We'll blow some shit up, and Yes. And, it'll be a good time. Should be about 6 months, but, we'll definitely keep in touch.

And For sure.

Love to have you back. So Thank you, Sean.

Thank you. Appreciate you, brother. You too. Appreciate you. Hi.

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