Transcript of Chiefs Magic, Bird Bowl & Bill Murray on Iconic Career, Best SNL Host, Prank Calls & More | Ep 113

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why don't you tell the people? We got an exciting 1 this time.

No. I mean, this is this is probably the most exciting episode we may have ever done. This was electric. We got an incredible episode for you guys. You're not gonna wanna miss this 1.

We're gonna talk about the Chiefs Black Friday nail biter, the Eagles winning the Bird Bowl. But first, we're gonna get into some little bit of that new new well, actually, before we get into that, we have an incredible guest waiting for you guys. They're probably gonna put out a promo, so I don't even have to act like it's a surprise at this point. Yeah. We have Bill Murray.

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any of this. I mean, the guy is just as smooth as fucking the other side of the building.

We're gonna make sure to put it at the end of the episode so you guys have to watch this entire beginning portion. So, first, we're gonna get a little bit of new news.

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Order by December 9th. That's right. And you can get it by Christmas. That's for that section. This is also not really new news Not really new news, but, we have received, a demand about what our next film club movie should be by a celebrity mystery fan.

Travis and I have not heard this intern Brandon and Jet Shaikh

mystery fan.

Or

who screens these voice mails? Just so I know. How many voice mails do you listen to on average a week?

We are up to 735 unlistened to voice mails.

So how many listen to voice mails?

Nobody listens to these.

Oh, 30. Brandon.

I'm trying. They won't stop calling. They text now too. For those of you that haven't heard, we have 730 unread voice mails, which is similar to probably what I have in my voice mail.

Because who does voice mails anymore? Everybody texts.

I don't listen to voice mail.

Voice memo. I don't wanna fucking go into my voice mail

box and fucking

get some shit. But, if you guys wanna keep sending in your, your Heights hotline Yeah. Voice mails, I'm sure we'll eventually get to them.

In turn, Brandon will get to them before he dies, hopefully. Alright. Let's get

let's get to

the point.

Can we

hear this mystery 1, please?

Play this 1.

Hello. I'm just calling because

I know that voice.

I I don't have a need for relationship advice.

I can give you a relationship advice, Kylie. But,

what I do need is to nominate a movie for the next, movie review. I think it's the holiday season and that It's not Jumanji. I'm gonna

be so mad.

Love Actually? Come on.

Yeah. You could really go down with your significant others and enjoy.

Love Actually.

Because it's not like 1 of your significant others hasn't asked you to watch it multiple times and you said no every time, so this would be a great excuse to get you to watch it. Okay. I hope you take this into consideration. You guys are great. Love you.

Bye.

Love you too, Kai. Alright.

Well That was Kylie.

That was Kylie. That was Kylie.

She did actually. I know

that voice.

I didn't yeah. I haven't heard her voice over the phone.

So Yeah. It's a little bit different. Love actually. Is that with Gerard Butler? Is that what that 1 is?

No. We got a Hugh Grant, Liam Nielsen Neeson. Sorry.

Liam Neeson? Yeah. Is it like a Taken film?

Not even close.

No? I I would have been in if it was, like, Taken. Oh, mister Bean? Mister Bean?

No way. Roman Atkinson? Nice.

I think we can both probably agree we're not doing Love Actually.

Yeah. Probably not. I'll do, like, a really good Christmas movie, though.

Alright. Look. We'll open it to a fan vote as always. There's no there's no favoritism played here even for my own wife. Please submit your favorite holiday films.

And just for the record, before millions of moronic people submit die hard, die hard is not a Christmas movie. We will not be doing die hard. But, yeah, any other Christmas film which is in the spirit of Christmas or the holidays, doesn't have to be Christmas. It could I mean, I like 8 Crazy Nights, great movie. We will review it, and we look forward to it.

I did drop you 1 note.

Did you drop me a note? Yeah. Oh, Kylie said she would come on if we did Love Actually.

Is that

Does that change anything? We I

don't think it really changes how we feel about it.

She has her own podcast now. She could just do Love actually. Right? What do we what does she need us to do love actually for?

Once yeah. Kai, why don't you do love actually and then put it on not gonna lie?

There you go. How about how about I come on not gonna lie, and we can do a movie review of love actually?

Yeah. Don't fucking torture me. Torture

me. Travis is not a part of this.

This is not a stereotype.

A

stereotype. Don't fucking come for me.

Well, you know Hugh Grant. It's not even gonna hit the same. You guys are, like, best buds now.

I'm not gonna lie, though. I've You

do tequila shots with Rich.

I've watched, like, 2 or 3 movies with Hugh in it since, and I fucking love all of them. He's just he there's something about knowing the guy, man.

Yeah. Makes you like it more?

Yeah. I think so. Either that or I

do that. Love, Actually? Now you're talking me into it.

I'm I don't I never said we wouldn't enjoy the movie. I just said I don't wanna review it.

Okay. That's fair. Intern Brand has given me a lot of side eye right now.

Just just do it.

Just do what?

Add Kylie on with the movie.

I know what you're trying to do, Brandon.

Yeah. Everybody knows what he's doing.

Everyone knows what he's doing. To hide it.

How about this? We'll I'm gonna I'm gonna offer a barter system.

We'll do 2.

We'll do a double movie review episode.

So Brandon gets what he wants.

So Brandon gets what he wants. Well, do love actually, and we'll do a fan because I don't want it I think the fan should have some say in this voting procedure 100%. For the film club. That's the whole point of this.

The fucking point of it. Yeah.

Yeah. We're gonna do love actually and another film that you guys will vote on and tell us which holiday film you guys would like us to review. Again, new news brought to you by, ESPN on Disney plus.

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Did you actually think that the show was good? You were watching Monday night. You were giving me

Dude, I was fucking dying.

I love getting texts, man. Yeah.

I was

dying. Laughing with me, though. Right? Not Apple. Right?

Yeah. I mean, that's life is laughing at Jason Kelsey, but you laugh with everyone when they laugh at you. So That's right.

Perfect. Alrighty. Let's move on to, maybe something that we can find some laughing with while we're doing it. And that's a bold topic to wrap up week 13, which really because of the bill. Because of bill, we're only gonna get into the Chiefs and Eagles.

We're not gonna get into talk too much of the NFL landscape this week because we're gonna get right to the stuff that we think is gonna be highly entertaining. But we will, give you a little Chiefs recap. Travis, you faced off against the Raiders, and, you guys snuck out the victory. It was tight. There was some end of game shenanigans, which I think all of Twitter was, debating back and forth on what happened, and I don't think anybody really fully knows exactly what happened.

But

I know exactly what happened. What do you mean?

Alright. Well, the Chiefs won 19 to 17. We know that. Yeah. There was a end of game procedure.

I guess we'll get right into that. It's not the start of this, but we'll just talk about it. End of game procedure, O'Connell receives a snap, doesn't know the snap is coming, fumble. There's a flag on the play. 1 official is running into the frame, clearly signaling false start, and the officials convene, decide to say it's illegal procedure or snap infraction.

How do they say it?

No. It's illegal, what do you call it? It's like,

illegal information. People are in motion. Right?

Illegal information. That's what that's what it is. It's not it it wasn't a false start. It's not like everyone got set and somebody jumped off sides. I agree.

It it was the entire team wasn't set. And Correct. Because of that, the play then goes on, and it the the play doesn't stop right there on the snap like a false start would.

So yeah. For for those of you that don't know, false start is not an accept or decline penalty. If there's a false start, the play never existed. It's blowing dead right away. So this is why there's a controversy because there is 1 official running on the field, 1 of the side judges who is signaling false start.

He's signaling the the false start, which is this, that when they talked about it, they realized that it wasn't a false start.

I agree. It's not a false start. The 1 way you could say it's a false start though, the center never gets set. What? Like

The center is set. His hand is on the ball and

his side. But he's moving his head.

Now the center can't move his head?

So because actually

His head wasn't even moving.

Never mind. I changed I changed my I changed my mind. I retract. I retract. I thought he did like the little, deal with his head.

It is what it is. And I'm not pointing blame on anybody. You can't put that kind of call into the ref's hands. It is what it is, and I'm and I don't think you you know what I mean? If you're the Raiders, you don't do it because we get all the calls.

You just never wanna put a fucking be in position where you're relying on the refs to make a call, whether it's right call or wrong call, a call, that takes the ball away from you or or or ruins your chances of winning. And it just it is what it is. You know? I've I've been in situations where I've put it in the ref's hands, and I've come up, you know, empty handed like that as well.

I agree. I think that that's not a false start based on what I just saw, and they got and they got the call right. But for those of you that don't know, O'Connell talked about this. Why did the snap happen in the first place? There's a little bit of miscommunication.

The Raiders are on what we call silent account. Brandon intern Brandon, could you bring up that clip again? Whenever you're ready, intern Brandon. Jesus Christ. We gotta get some new interns.

Come on, bud.

A lot

of stuff. So pause it right here. When the when the guard goes to tap the center, pause it. So you see the guard look back and he taps the center. When you're on silent count, that tells the center the go it's on the guard to tell the center when the quarterback is ready for the ball.

Typically, the guard gets an indicator from the quarterback. What happens here is O'Connell is clapping his hands to try and get people lined up. When the quarterback claps his hands is another cue for most teams on silent count to the play clock is going down or there's an unguarded receiver hurry up and snap the ball. So the guard thinks we're trying to go quickly. O'Connell is just trying to get people lined up.

All of a sudden, there's a snap when he's not ready for it, and we have the ensuing fumble recovery and game clinching fumble recovery for the Kansas City Chiefs. Pretty critical air, and it's unfortunate. I kinda joked on Twitter, like, this is 1 thing I don't miss about playing center. These little procedure things come up so much, and it's regardless of whose fault it is, it's so infuriating Yeah. When something like this results in a seriously negative play and something like this actually costing them the game.

Because let's face it. If they don't fumble the ball, they're in field goal range. They're gonna get a opportunity to at least kick a field goal to win the game. So it's just you know, it sucks for these guys. This is, you know, 1 of the things about playing.

I mean, we've seen it with Chicago Bears. You know, teams that are good teams don't make these mistakes, especially in critical moments. This is something that the Chiefs have been unbelievable with. It is a big reason why you guys have only lost 1 game is that you guys just are very, very smart in the most critical moments of it.

I can't tell you that 1

of the good team, though. I hear you on that. Like, you're saying the good teams, by the way. You know, that's that's something that, you know, you just have to learn to live with and learn from, and and it is what it is. Even great teams, you know, slip up and have those mix apps.

And, you know, I think, they play this great all game. You know? This dude Brock Bowers is having a fucking Holy cow. Legendary season. And he, and he really turned it up on us, especially in the second half and and late in that, late in those past those last couple drives, man.

The guy seems unstoppable, man. I'm just like I'm sitting here just watching every single snap is, and he's finding ways to get open through and everybody's their eyes are on him. Everybody's kinda like, oh, he's a rookie and, you know, no eyes. Everybody knows how good this guy is. He's a 1st round draft pick.

He's literally been 1 of the best, if not the best tight end in college football since he was a freshman. The guy is an absolute beast both as a route runner with the ball in his hands and and making plays for in the run game. And it's it's showing, it's showing up each and every single week, man, and it gets me excited to watch, you know, the tight ends, the all the young tight ends in the league and then and, you know, how much of a a of a impact they all make on their team, man. And he's definitely the in the at the forefront. But this team, I mean He

was from

the last chop, man.

They have for whatever reason, their defense did have a good, they had a good understanding of what we were trying to do and how to stop us and how to slow us down or eliminate so much of the big time plays that we had. And on top of that, keep us out of that end zone. That was the biggest thing for me was, and where I take a lot of pride is once we get in that red zone, man, I get a little hungrier. And and right now, I just, for whatever reason this year, I just can't find my way in the in the end zone. I'm just not on the same page as Pat.

And, and it's, it can get frustrating. It can get fucking frustrating. That's for damn sure.

I think the play you're talking about is that covers 0 blitz where

It was more than

just 1 play. Okay. Alright.

Yep. That

play. Play. Clearly, Pat thought you were gonna continue on that path. You thought he was gonna kinda throw it up field for you. But

I was just trying to that that play specifically, it's cover 0. I'm thinking if I don't have it right now and the ball is still in Pat's hand, I need to do something else to get open for him. And

Gotcha.

I just, I went 1 way. He threw it the other.

Yeah. The Raiders are a great team, especially defensively. I think Patrick Graham, is that pat is that the defensive coordinator for the Raiders, Patrick Graham? I played him against him a bunch in New York. Very smart guy.

Like, he always I feel like when he knows you individual games are difficult because there's a lot of familiarity.

Yes.

And I just think that he is

he he's

just a very smart quarterback.

Games that you know you're gonna get, so the coaches start game planning those specific, details and the scheme way in the off season before the schedule's even released. You know exactly who you're playing in your division. Let's get really good at playing those guys knowing that's what? 6 games that, yeah. 5 games 6 games that we play right there.

Yeah. Yep.

It's a it's it's it's over a quarter of the actual season. So it's like, let's get really good at those those games. So you go into the off season preparing for those teams specifically. And, you know, that doesn't that's not saying that we weren't preparing for them all off season. You know?

They played us really well last year in the, last year.

Listen. We heard about it we heard about it from Raiders fans all week in Tahoe.

Yeah. We're

talking about ruining Christmas. They knew that they had your number.

The year next year ago.

You know what I mean? You guys won this time.

I hear you. You're right. Still gonna hear from the Raiders. I've been be They're

not gonna say fortunate

enough to be I've been fortunate enough to beat the Raiders my entire career, and

Yeah.

I've heard of

the numbers you know, the time I get. Yeah.

That's the

1 thing. It's a good fan base for you.

What is the feeling? Why are you guys able to close out these games? Like, what is do you have an explanation for everybody who's asking these same questions on every sports show where we just regurgitate the fact that you guys find a way to win? Is there something more to it? I don't know.

You can call it luck. You can call it fortune. You can call it guys just playing their ass off until the last second is off that clock. And, we know a lot of weird shit happens in this league. I think both sides of the ball do a great job of that that is the coaches do a great job of, making sure the players know how wacky things happen in this league, let alone in this game.

You know, we've seen a lot of the weirdest shit happen. And so I think it's just been coincidence that we've seen a lot of it happen this year just to us. Right. Typically, they'll just on the offensive side, we'll watch, I don't know, every college football game, every 2 minute from the NFL, every single week, and we'll get caught up on what's possible, what could possibly happen at the end of a game with these types of scenarios. And when you understand that that that's you know, when you understand the possibilities and you you start to become more familiar with, you know, man, anything really can fucking happen if we just keep playing hard until the until the end of the game no matter, you know, no

matter what's happening.

What's happened, you know, no matter, you know, situation at hand, if there is a chance to win, if there is still a chance on that board Yeah. You keep playing, man. You just, you keep playing, you know, to respect the guy next to you for for him giving him giving everything he's got too.

Let's get into the game a little bit more into some of the other stuff. You know? Listen. I know you hold yourself to a really high standard. I think you're being a little hard on yourself.

We did get a number of good plays from the big Yeti, including another Travis lateral, which, I mean, who doesn't love a trav lateral? Again, to Peron. You guys have, like, some type of chemistry here. Look at this. Bow.

Yeah, man. Right place, right time. I'm just, I'm happy it, it worked. I think coach Reed's under, unquote saying either today or yesterday that, you know, yeah, if you're gonna do it, it better work. If I have a little bit more awareness, I I don't even have to pitch it, though.

I can just get vertical up the hash and get the first down myself. So as I'm always watching the film, how can I make a play better? How can I make, you know, more of an impact on the game? Yeah. And, if I could get the first by myself without latering lateraling the ball, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna try and do that.

This is kinda just an instinct that, that I had, and I'm lucky that, you know, we completed it and we we were able to get a fresh, set of downs there.

Well, I think you might, be starting a trend now with the laterals you've done for a number of years now. Don't start this. What do you mean start this?

I'm the I'm now I'm the guy that fucking invented the lateral or made it

Well, now I'm not gonna say you invented it. Don't give yourself too much information. I

said Howard. Said that something about me. This had Yeah. This was nothing like what I've done. This is just a guy in the backyard playing football

Oh, fair enough.

Like the way he has.

Yeah. This is this is

a lot

of the best play out. Yeah.

That just came yeah. Exactly. This was just instinctual.

This was very instinctual.

They got me. They don't have you. You take it. Yeah. Well, let me ask you this.

The play.

As an expert of laterals, should we see more laterals in the NFL?

It's the most underused rule in the game of football. Yes.

God, I love that answer.

I love that you're fucking saying that.

I think I heard Rich Eisen mention that, early on in my career and I was like, damn, he ain't lying, man. That shit would be sweet if we were out here just fucking flipping it around every single play. And that's what football used to be.

Are you saying that you are taking your football playing advice from Rich Eisen?

I mean, I'd take a I'd take any type of advice from Rich Eisen, man.

That's a good point.

He's a pretty awesome

dude Yeah.

And smart.

Well put together. Yes.

That's right. Alright.

It's a man right there.

This was also officially scored as a Josh Allen 7 yard touchdown pass to Josh Allen, which Yeah. It's pretty cool. Should they start, like, giving

Assist?

I feel like they should see an assist. This should be in a version of an NFL assist. Right?

The thing is I just don't think

it happens enough for them to even create a category for it.

But you could do this now even, like, when people pitch the ball, like, in the backfield, like, on a reverse or something like that. That's an assist by the guy who I feel like it needs to be tracked. This should not go un unaccounted for in the stat category. I like assist. It feels like it's an assist.

Yeah. Alright. Well, hopefully

by Josh, man. The old 3 man weave, dude. Follow the smash.

By dude. And I was watching the we're gonna get into the Eagles Ravens game. I was like, dude, they should definitely design a no joke. Before this game happened, I was like, they should definitely have a play where Lamar I think after you lateraled it, where he runs after, like, a hitch, like, the slot area and just, like, catches a hook and lag. Like, I don't know.

I feel like it'd be an awesome play.

If you can get a defense to play soft enough coverage where it's a guarantee hitch and the play doesn't just ride

on the to be the right situation of, like, 3rd in, like, 25 or, like, a 2 minute type situation.

But then you're even yeah. I'm telling you. It's I've dreamt of all of these situations. I promise you. And I I feel like I have a decent grasp on on when a team's playing soft enough to be able to catch the ball and evaluate and be able to throw a pitch

or a

lateral out there. I mean, clearly you do. Or you catch him in man to man and you just, you beat your defender. Now all of a sudden, you know that there's only 1 there's 1 guy for every other, like, route around you. Yes.

You know? And that's what happened in in Buffalo ironically, last year.

The good news from that win, the Chiefs are officially in the playoffs. I know that you guys are really worried about this, but you have officially clinched a playoff seed in the AFC. Travis will be playing extra football as well as the rest of his teammates, and the Chiefs. So, congratulations on, making the 2024 NFL playoffs trip.

Thank you, man. And as shitty as, I've played, you know, it does feel good to be, you know, in my 10th year in a row making the playoffs, man.

10th year in a row. Dude, that is fucking insane.

It is. Absolutely insane. That is so crazy. You're having fun, baby. Let's make the most of it, man.

Let's make the most of it. 1 goal has been reached. We gotta win the division. That's another goal that we gotta reach and then, secure home field advantage, which we have the keys to the car in that race as well. So we, we just gotta finish strong, baby.

Just finish strong and, and then, you know, get get violently accurate with our intentions.

I love that. Alrighty. Speaking of the division, the Chiefs will host the, Los Angeles chargers in Arrowhead this week against Jim Harbaugh and company. That's right. Do you like playing, divisional opponents first at their place and then second at home, or do you care?

I don't even know why I'm asking this question. Interbrand and put it there.

No. I don't think it matters where we play them. I'll play them in a fucking CBS parking lot, man. I love the divisional games. It's a it's a complete it's a whole new sense of, like, competitiveness.

Yeah. And it's a whole new, like, focus. The intricacies of the game, the the fundamentals, the what move did I use last time, what move what play did we use last time, what look did we give them last time? All those things start to play a little bit more, and it's even more of a chess match. You know, it's the closest thing to to a playoff football game that it that I feel like you really get.

And when there's a playoff potential team, in your division that you're playing, like the chargers or

Dude.

Like the Broncos that we have at the end of the year, you know, it it makes it even more of a of a, I don't know, just like excitement. It's exciting to get ready for these games, man. And, I mean, the chargers got they're a new team. They are way more motivated and and and way more focused team than I thought they were in the past years. And sure enough, their quarterback's playing really fucking good right now, and that defense is is got some absolute beast that we gotta be ready for.

That's right. Yeah. Harbaugh has him playing much better. I mean, it's largely the same team, but they got a lot of confidence right now, and it's evident. And the quarterback is playing with that level.

He is making some big time throws.

They're playing with some fucking heart, and I hadn't seen that in the charges in a long time.

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What do you say, Trav?

Let's do it. Hey, Eagles. 24 Ravens, 19. Eagles come out on top in the bird bowl.

That. I bought that.

Bird bowls in the league. Initial thoughts, Jason.

Huge win for the birds. And by birds, I mean the eagles, that bird.

Nice.

Listen. The eagles have been playing a lot better since the bye, but this was a win in my opinion that I you know, I think myself and a lot of people think the Ravens are among the best teams in the NFL. From a talent perspective, they have so many, like, very good pieces. This was a huge test for the Eagles, the Eagles' defense, and, them as a team, and, you know, they largely answered the bell. I thought they they put together a great game.

The front is playing so good between Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis and and the edges. A guy like Jalex Hunt stepped up big time in Brandon Graham's absence. Linebackers, the Kobe Dean and Zach Bond, are playing and flying around. They're just they're playing very aggressive in smart football, and I love watching it right now. The DBs, they've just, like, been able to shut teams down, quite frankly.

Yeah.

Cooper DeJean, rookie has come in and played lights out, Reid Blankenship. You know, we still got our man Darius Slay. He was out this past week, but, you know, Quinion Mitchell, the other rookie that we drafted in the first round, was playing great football. Offensively, they've had they found an identity. Right?

They have Shaquan Barkley, which he's been unbelievable. We're gonna get to that in a second. But, you know, I think with the pieces they have, I I don't know how you defend them. I really don't. If you play I talked about this a little bit.

I'm running into football. But if you play man coverage, AJ Brown and Davonte Smith are going to annihilate you if you're gonna try and live

in that world.

If you play shell, Shaquan Barkley is gonna be a heavy dose.

It's gonna

be a heavy If

you wanna play if you wanna play these zones, they're the this is really what worked very well against the Ravens. They ran the zone read plays, the RPOs, and the play actions were all so synchronistic.

Okay. Synchronistic.

I don't know how you defend the Philadelphia Eagles as an offense. And the Ravens, I mean, they didn't allow that many points, but I think it's it was an impressive performance for the Eagles.

It's been a impressive impressive performance for, for just about all season long, man, especially, since they got Saquon Barkley back there

No doubt.

Running the fucking rock and even more so in the second half. He's been fucking amazing, and it's fun to watch him kinda take over games there in the second half. And you tweeted about it saying, Jason, tweeted on on x, Saquon has been so good in the Q4 this year. How many enormous game leading or ceiling big runs has he had? It's insane how clutch he's been with an exclamation point.

You don't always see Jason use punctuation like that, only when he means it. And it's, it is it's true, man. It's true. It's it feel like whenever they need a huge play there in the second half, who better than Saquon Barkley to give that fucking ball to, man? He's like 0 to 60 faster than any other fucking human that I've ever seen, man.

And he's he's such a big dude, quads enormous. So you're trying to tackle this dude or slow him down or get a arm on him. Or if you don't get a a a thick solid hit on him, then, you know, he's he's liable to fucking break 1. And you saw it, like, 2 plays in a row. It was it was it was an outside zone to the left where the safety just fucking got his cleats, and he was kicking himself.

He was like, man, that was it. That was it. Let alone, but little did he know he's gonna get another chance, later on that drive to to really break 1, man.

And that's where the MVP kinda chatter really fits in. I mean, obviously, the yards, he's the leading back in the in the NFL right now with the chance to break the all time Russian record, which would be completely electric.

Yeah.

The thing that makes him so valuable and so unique is these second half big explosive runs that have either sealed games or put games out of reach. For instance, the the the run from last week on the tackle pool play, he had to run through a couple arm tackles, which might not seem like much. Sure. But maybe if it's another back, you get down at the 5, and you don't end up getting in the end zone there. And, like, the defenses have been very staunch in the red zone.

Saquon being able to run and finish these plays off in the most critical parts of the game, it's been such a huge determining factor in the Eagles' late in games and why they've been able to win games

It's been arguably Washington. Most valuable factor to have.

I think he's up there. I mean, I again, it's obviously a quarterback driven stat, but if Saquon Barkley breaks a record that's been in the n I mean, when did Eric Dickerson set that record?

80 4.

80 4. The record's been since 1984. If he breaks that record and the Eagles somehow end up being the NFC champions, I don't know how you don't give it to Saquon Barkley.

I really don't.

If if even if he doesn't break the fucking record, if he's the best player on 1 of the best teams in the league and he's proven it year in, year out in the biggest moments, what are we even fucking talking about?

It's a good point. Alright. I think that makes sense.

What are your final thoughts on this 1, big dog?

My final thoughts are the Eagles prove that they are legit Super Bowl contenders unequivocally with this win. If they stay healthy, I don't know that there's a more talented team than them in the NFL.

I might be able to argue that.

Well, at okay. Can I say NFC at least? Will you at least agree? I mean, well, the short lines are pretty damn talented.

Yeah.

That's the 1 thing, man. I I really just as a football fan, as a fucking offensive line fan, there is nothing more than I would like to see than the Detroit lines face off against the Philadelphia Eagles. Like, I want that game to happen so bad.

I think all of the NFL wants this to happen, Jason. Who doesn't wanna fucking see that?

This is how the this is

how the NFL fucking got where it is today. It this seventies, eighties handing that fucking thing off to guys like Eric Dickerson, You know? The guys like Jim Brown. Everybody wants to see that thing in someone's hand, and everybody try and stop that man.

I'm with you. I will say this. I I'm talking a lot about the Eagles. Mark Andrews had a touchdown in that game.

Dude, Mark is a fucking dog. Dude, right now, him and Likely, that is a fucking scary dynamic to have in the tight end room to have to fucking get ready for.

Dude, that first touchdown that Andrews caught where he just, like, caught it above his head and, like, held it there He's a fucking beast. It might be the most man touchdown

down I've ever seen. Like, it was like it

was like, I'm bigger than all you other motherf it was like a like, he went up for a rebound and just like it was Dude, I'm telling you.

I thought

he was about

to pop the ball.

Mark is a fucking Like a Yeah. Like Little Giants?

Like a Little Giants moment. I'm like, he is squeezing the fuck out of how big are his hands. That ball looks so small. Yeah, dude. It was Dude,

he's a

legend, man. I don't know why that stood out to me so much.

Mark right now is playing, like, you know, 1 of the best tight ends, if not the best tight end in the league right now. I know him, George, and Brock Bowers. Those dudes are absolutely playing fucking ball right now. Yeah. And, it's fun to watch.

Next week, the Eagles are gonna face, Bryce Young and the Panthers, not just Bryce Young, a new and improved Bryce Young who is playing his ass off right now. They've I mean, quite litter I mean, they they they nearly got the win against the Bucks. It's 2 weeks in a row that Bryce Young has been playing really well. The Panthers might officially be good. I know the Eagles should for sure be worried about them because they are playing everybody tight.

I can tell you. They've officially been good for at least the past 2 weeks. Yeah. If not before that, they we were kinda seeing that, we started to see that thing kinda build and mold together before their bi week before we played them, and then sure enough, they play us just as good as anybody.

Honestly, they've been playing better ever since I made the joke that they were the worst team in the NFL.

That's what happens, Jason.

It's like the kicker's thing. Like, I just gotta stop. I gotta stop talking.

I mean or just keep shitting on people and watch people fucking turn turn Maybe

that's what I should do. Shit on people, and then all of a sudden, they play better. And I can take credit for that even though it makes I had no impact in it whatsoever. Sounds like a typical media person. Right?

The universe is weird like that, man. Start shitting on the Chiefs.

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Nice. My no dumb question is if you could have been on any team from kids movies or TV show, which would it be and why? Interesting.

Any kids movie or TV show? So she's looking for a kids centric team, essentially.

I think it's just like kids movie from But

it's not like remember the titans. Is it or or I guess they're teenagers in that. That's a high school movie, so that's still couch.

Right? Any team from a kids movie or a TV show.

But is it a kid's TV show or is

it just a

regular a TV.

Specific if you want somebody like Jason to answer your question.

Yeah. But don't forget we are dumbass. Travis just told you we are very stupid. But who are you going with? We can't pick Sandlot because they just pick Sandlot.

So, Valerie, thanks for taking the fucking answer that we probably both would have picked. From kids. Alright. Let's think kids movies that are sports. Teams, Space Jam.

We talked about it with Bill. I mean, could you be on the Monstars? Would you be on the Monstars, or would you be on Jordan's tune squad? I might go Monstars. That'd be a fucking electric group to be a part of.

Yeah. Except that you wouldn't be the 1 controlling your Monstar.

I might be a Monstar if I'm on the monster.

Be 1 of those little fuckers, the little little fetch hits. That's who you wanna be.

Not when I steal whose talent would I steal? I wouldn't okay. So I can't steal I'll

I'll play that game with you.

Yeah. I would steal

monster. If you were an alien I

would steal Shaquille O'Neal. I would steal Shaquille O'Neal's talent.

Goddamn. You would be.

That's right. Who the fuck is stopping me with Shaquille O'Neal's talent?

I don't know. Greg Cobble, bitch?

I don't know.

Tim Duncan? Yeah.

Shaq didn't Shaq was unstoppable. Wasn't it? Yeah. That wasn't the issue. No.

Stopping him was impossible.

All right.

I think I'm going space champ. Who are you going?

I'm going to go, man, it was just as a kid, I just loved Major League, man.

That's not a kid's movie.

It is in my book.

All right. Fine.

What is it? Does it is that

Hayes, rookie of the year. There's so many good ones. Angels in the outfield. I'd love to fucking feel what it's like to

I kinda feel like you guys are the angels in

the outfield. Angels in the outfield?

There's some unknowns, like

here you go with this fucking Tamed Voodoo

shit. This

dude's such a dickhead.

Who you going with?

Kicking and screaming? Goddamn. These are all fucking golden. I'm gonna say the fucking, the little giants, man. Yeah.

The I

figured that's where you're gonna go.

Fucking unstoppable out there. Spike would have no fucking choice but to eat eat shit.

I'm taking you against Spike any day. Alright. I like that. There you have a great question, Valerie Jean Louis. So, yeah, if you're interested for something to watch with the kids, you can check out my Google TV list, Lilo and Stitch.

We got a Brink. How electric is Brink?

It's a classic.

All those I love all those.

Rollerblading period. When's the last time you saw a fucking kid rollerblading, man?

Dude, I wanna get back on When's

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If you never scrape your knee, how are you gonna know what life is actually like? Born. He was born. Well done. Oh, gosh.

How are you gonna know how to put a a butterfly band aid on? You know? These are fucking essential skills that you're gonna eventually need in life and need to get outside and fuck some shit up to go figure

that out. That's right.

If

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I might be biased, but I definitely have the best watch list out. Alrighty. Our guest today, you might know him from his run on SNL. Legendary movies like Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Space Jams, Lost in Translation. My personal favorite, Kingpin.

Basically anything with Wes Anderson. He's an Emmy winner, academy award nominee, and of course, a winner for the Mark Twain prize for American humor.

Yes, sir.

And he's also now my official, golf competitor.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Please welcome Bill

Hello. Laurie. Yeah. Woo hoo. Thank you.

Woo hoo. Baby.

How many movies did we miss? What about Bob, Groundhog's Day?

Yeah. I

I don't think I mean, we'd be here all day listing.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we got it's are you guys on an hourly, or is this a flat rate?

Honestly, we we will take whatever you give us.

There's a there's a lot of them, but, you know, some you know, people have their favorites. You you did yours. We're good. I'm fine.

Let's start let's start off with your favorite, dude.

Well, I always say I like this. I like it.

Would have done over. Or

Well, you probably like a game that you played really well and you lost or something like that. Is that possible? Yeah. So not that they lost, but I made a movie called Broken Flowers with Jim Jarmus. So I thought it was a great movie.

Broken Flowers.

And I made another movie called, The Man Who Knew Too Little with a director named John Amiel. That had it was had some really, really funny stuff and some really great actors.

That's another 1 of our favorites.

Yeah. That 1 has some really funny stuff.

When you're on

the side of the building and they're shooting up at you and oh my gosh. Yeah. The freaking Russian dancing scene with the the doll. Oh my gosh.

My knees have never been the same, and I really did too. I don't those were real Russian dancers. Like, thank god. What the hell is that guy doing? He's actually doing it.

Of course. Yeah. I never walked again, but, I mean, it was it was I really went hard for that 1. So

That's awesome. We're gonna talk a little bit of golf. We're in Georgia at Georgia. Cobb. What's the name of this?

Cobb?

Cobb County.

Cobb County. Cobb Town. We're near Cobb Town. We're in Cobb Town, Georgia. 2 b's.

Oh, Hoopy. 2 b's in Cobb Town.

You guys are over at Hoopy? Yeah.

Yeah. Onion Town? Onion Country?

That is I I don't know if that's Is

it the onion the official

The onion is definitely the logo.

Do they grow onions here, Gil? Is that the deal? We're talking to Gil Hansel. Onions? 1 of 5 onions?

1 of several people I take you credit for designing the golf course.

Yeah. Jim Wagner. A beautiful golf course, man.

Have you been down here?

Hell, yeah. 2 off 2 off seasons ago. Saw the what is it? The zebras off in the distance?

Yep. Zebras. They got they have zebras. They have wildebeest. What else do they have out there, Bill?

And they have my caddy, Eric, who's off in the distance.

Yeah. Offering 0 help. Yeah. We had a great time out there today. Yeah.

Eric, we had a Gray, the other caddy. Gray's a jerk. You didn't like Gray?

No. I'm sorry. He's from Alabama.

Heavy accent. Heavy accent.

He's on he's on the comeback trail.

Played safety at Auburn. He's pretty

What? He's an interesting guy.

Played safety at Auburn, and he's caddying for you. Yeah.

I love it.

You have somebody that you really like playing golf with. Who are your favorite golf partners you've played with through the years?

I I kinda like playing with, women. They're more fun. They're sort of less, threatening to me.

Okay.

But they're they just seem to be having a better time, most of them. Yeah. I play golf with this good golfer who lives up north and south named Bridgette Rooney. I had a good time playing with, Larry David is actually a funny guy to play golf. I have

to believe that.

For I mean, it's kinda it's not bad to play golf with a total curmudgeon. But he's he really enjoys the game a lot, so he's not, like, all

That's cool.

He didn't get all mental when he hits a bad shot.

Were were you always a golf guy? When did you get into the sport?

God, what a setup that is. Were you always a golf guy?

Guy. Yeah.

Yeah. No. I I did some I did my share of exotic dancing, but then I I started as I mean, I I began as a caddy. I mean, I was a child before that, but I I started as a caddy and Okay. Okay.

Kinda what happened. I was a shag boy and then I was a caddy. And you kind of you know, once you caddy for years, you know, you kind of you're in.

You know,

it's like baptism without, you know, approval. You're in. So that's sort

of what just like the summer job? Or

Yeah. Well, in my family, you had to like, if you wanted to go to high school, if you wanted to go to the the Catholic school, you had to pay for it yourself. So, not that I I necessarily wanted to pay for it, but, I just my eldest my elder brothers had gone there, so that's what I was gonna do. And they'd done the same thing. Ed and Brian had both paid their way through high school, CAD ing, and gambling, learning the the intricacies of cards.

Yeah.

And so I had to do that too.

Nice.

What is it about golf that you like so much?

Well, if I'm trying to stick up for it, you know, like I often am, like a lot of people go like golf. Oh, you're chasing your little white ball around and your funny little clothes. But it's really, you know, maybe 1 of the only games that's a game of self report where you have to say what your score is. Yeah. So the problem today was I had no idea what my score was.

Comedian. I was neither did you. I'm looking at my caddy, and he's going,

we relied on Eric's

doing was Yeah. Well to a fault. I don't I don't think we got a wait. I think We'll never know if we got a We checked.

We tied by Eric's account.

According to Eric, we tied, but that's because someone sitting in 1 of these chairs gave Eric $700 at the church. Jesus. $700 in small, small bills. And I'm not talking 5.

Bills? Yeah. Throwing ones at them every every shot. But

that's 1 thing about golf is it's just a game of self report where it like, your honesty is, like, a key thing. You know? And, you know, I don't know if you play with people that cheat at golf, but, like, you can cheat on your income taxes. You can cheat on your spouse, your your lover. But you cheat at golf, we're done.

Yeah. I

got No second chances.

I understand the impulse to cheat it on taxes or or, like, another guy another woman, but you cheat at golf. I don't even wanna see your face in. It's the golden rule. So there's that. So there's like a code.

You know, there's a code, which a lot of, you know, every sport has a code, but that that I think that has a fierce code. It's a game of it's a body attention, you know, self awareness kind of game. You know, you have to I don't know what football is like beyond the, like, freshman year of high school level, but, you know, you really have to be, you know, composed to play it correctly, to play at your best. You know? Yeah.

Quiet inside and, you know, the most efficient use of your body and everything. So it's like that. It's Man I like it.

Tell you what

It doesn't look like that.

1 of the most uncomposed people in the fucking world is Jason Kelsey in Tahoe. Oh my gosh.

We did that. Seeing

Jason absolutely

his best year.

Spiral in his first round at Tahoe.

Was he, like, diving into the lake or what?

He was he might as well.

I might have

He came out, like, he came out the gates hot.

I think he was, he was I think he was plus 4. I think he was, like, in the red for the first, like, 3 holes, 3 or 4 holes

in Memphis. This is very nice of you to bring this up, Travis.

Double double double double double double double.

Brothers for. Yeah. No. It's good.

Keep your composure, man.

I'll tell

you what.

You got uncomposed. I took you out of your game. Then, what was that? The 2nd or 3rd day. That's right.

I was playing so bad. It was either

you or the lucky beaver. I can't figure out which 1 it was.

The lucky beaver might have did it. Yeah. What so how many how many courses are you involved with? Like, members with

how many lucky beavers do you guys know? Well, I know 1.

I only know 1.

I know 1 officially titled lucky beaver.

In in Nevada?

In Reno. Yeah.

I listen.

Highly recommend it.

I didn't see any in there, but I was, I was in there grabbing some drinks.

Yeah. Oh, is that the name of a bar?

It's a bar.

So what were you guys playing as a team in Tahoe? Were you against each

other's rivals? No. Tahoe's individual scores.

Yeah. Individual. Yeah.

It's a point based, though. You can the max is double bogey, and that's minus 3 points, I believe. And then from there, it kinda just Were

you playing together? We were playing. We were paired together, but we weren't.

Yeah. Like

yeah. We were against each other.

Yeah. You play with a different group every day, different twosome or something?

It's typically a round of 3 guys just so they can keep the pace up.

We play with Andrew Whitworth, a tackle that played in the, in the league for a long time in Cincinnati and

I hate Dan.

You don't like Andrew? I

don't know. I know. He's a very hateful guy. He's a tackle. You've played in a bunch of tackle.

If he's not holding, I don't know who the hell he is.

He ain't lying, man.

So true. Lying.

That's some good shit, man. The camera of shame. Shame that man. Show his face. Show us his face.

Yeah. I'd like to see someone. So if you take off your helmet, do you have to come off the field? Or

That's a flag.

It's actually

a a penalty. It's a flag? Yes.

It's a flag. If your

helmet comes off, you have to

leave the field for a play or something?

I believe you have to leave the field to have it, like, put back on or something like that. But, if you take it off, that's penalty. So, yeah,

you can't

do that.

Bill, you've been invited to a bunch of Pro Am's. Tahoe hasn't gave you a shout yet? Have you ever even been out to Tahoe?

Yeah. Back when it was just a pond.

They still got that. That's for sure. Yeah.

No. I read the Mark Twain. I read it. Yeah. I've had some good I've had a nice time at Tahoe.

It's but I like to swim in it. Yeah. The golf always stay those guys always seem a little too serious for me. I hear you.

That that crowd seemed

a little too serious.

It is pretty serious.

Yeah. I played with those guys once, and that was enough.

Let's get let's touch.

And I did play a with my kids, I played a we got trapped there playing a couple of, slot machines.

Hey. Oh.

Marino and I got stuck on 1 that it was the Bonanza slot machine. And and if you got 2 out of 3

shit down.

If you put in $3 and you got 2 back, it played bum badda bum badda the Bonanza song. You know? And it was like, hey. You feel like you're winning while you're losing a dollar at a time for, 7 hours. I don't know.

I think that's the most fun I have in in titles when everybody goes from being done with playing golf, and we just jump over the casino.

Yeah. What's your dumb game? What's your dumb game?

Travis plays roulette.

Roulette. I fucking

love it. Goddamn. It's so stupid.

It's so fun. Jason says it's stupid. The only time he's ever played with me won BUCOB Bucks.

That's because you were having fun.

Well, I know how that is. It's like if you're if you're flush and you got a lot of money on you, you go, like, what's your number? You know? And you gotta tell everybody what's your number. And I remember having, like, a lot of per diem going there for some goofy thing and what's your number?

So I had, like, 7 people's number. We were winning, like, all the time.

Meanwhile, I'm

the only guy putting up the money. So I'm losing it 6 times, and 1 of us is losing. And it's not me. It's never me. I'm like, so happy for you.

Yeah. Anyway, I was pretty much broke in about a 120 minutes. And, but other people were walking out with, like, big bags of pockets.

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Let's take, let's take a trip down memory lane, baby.

Oh, I thought you're gonna say let's take some phone calls. Yeah. Call them.

We do have a Heights hotline.

We could Hey. We got somebody here from Houston.

That might be

a little bit. You grew up in Chicago. Chi town, baby, with, 8 siblings.

What number are you in the I

was 5 of 9. 5 of 9?

Yeah. Okay.

Well, there were 9

of us. Nice.

And boy, girl, how many brothers, how many sisters?

I don't know. I knew their names. Susser. There were, there were there were there were 6 boys, and there were 3 girls.

Okay. That sounds like a

mess. We had 9.

Guys could feel the you guys could feel the whole the whole whole diamond.

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Did you

guys you guys ever just go family versus family out on the diamond? Yeah.

We had some cousins that we had some cousins, the Collinses. They had 9

too. Wow.

At least I think they had 9. They were they were not they're not as tall as we were. So they could have more or less. It was it was I couldn't tell. Very odd.

We like to play them in basketball.

There we go.

That's we that was our game. We played a lot of sports. We played everything. Basically, I would spend the winter, long winters there, hitting rocks with a baseball bat over the fence of the backyard

Oh, yeah.

Until I would hear someone go, ah. And then my my neighbor getting into his car. Jake went right in the forehead. Holy shit.

Who'd you who'd you get your sense of humor from? Your mother, father, siblings, like Well,

that's well, my siblings are are humorous. I got some funny brothers and sisters. They're all funny.

Yeah.

We used to think our dad our dad was a really, really tough laugh. So if you could make him laugh, that was like you you looked at your your brother and sister going, see that? Yeah. That's gonna make me laugh.

See that?

But, oddly, when when the the bunch of us that went sort of continued being funny for a living sort of, It turned out we were all doing our mother, that we actually like, when we went into, like, a silly goofy mode, we were actually doing our mother.

Oh, wow.

So she

was more of a character than my dad was. My dad was, you know, he was hard to read because he was not a easy lap.

Would you call yourself the troublemaker of the family or what?

No. I was I was the good 1. I was the good 1. Yeah.

You were the good 1. Nice.

Heck yeah. No. I was the worst. I was the worst.

Fucking sad we have you bear trap me.

You'd ask me a question.

Yeah. What did your old what did what did your father do?

Sold lumber. Sold lumber.

Sold lumber.

But he, just when he started to make real real money, he he died. He died very young. 46 years old, he was. So nowadays, that's really young. Even then,

he was really young.

But to leave 9 kids, it was a it was a tough tough moment

Yeah. For her. Absolutely.

Yeah. He was a great man. But then my mother sucked it up and went to work as a cement finisher. So Wow. No.

Not So I

don't see. I'm like, there's no chance She worked in the mail

room, Lydia. She got it.

She got it. I got you emotional, and now you're now you're We're a puppet.

I do. Fucking reeled

me in. You're a professional. Sorry. That's She

also had 9 caddies running on the side. Yeah.

She had

her in

the kids going in. And then she went, but she but she took a job and

Yeah.

You know, she was a quite a strong woman.

You started off in improv when you started getting into comedy? Is that accurate, or should I

say that? That's right. That's right.

Did any of your siblings also do

Well, my brother Brian was the first 1 to go. Yeah. He it's so bad. Yeah. He was the first 1 to go.

He started going to Second City.

I was gonna say Second City. Yeah.

Taking improv class and so forth, and then he kind of progressed. And before you knew it, he was in the show. So I would go down there and watch watch him and watch he and Harold Ramis and Joe Flaherty and Volusia and all these guys. They were all ahead of me, and I would just go there to hang out, really, because it was sort of a safe zone for me.

For sure. Nice.

But I got it was an accident. The first time I tried it, I tried an improv class. I was so bad. I, like, walked out on the street and walked about 60 blocks south, which is probably the wrong direction for me to be going back then. It was and all of a sudden, I was, like, at 63rd in Stoney.

I'm like, what am I doing here? I don't I don't I I'm I'm now I'm now I gotta run. So I felt like I was scared of the dark. Yeah. It was that's how bad I was, and that's how how disturbing it was to think you're good and not be good.

But then years later, I got, you know, someone it was, like, kinda very poetic. Underneath the clock at Marshall Field's, I've stepped out and the but, you know, bells are ringing at 6 o'clock Christmas Eve. And there's the lady who teaches the improv. She's, you're Brian's little brother. Yeah.

Do you know how to paint? You mean, like, houses? Yeah. Yeah. I'll give you a scholarship if you come and paint my kitchen.

And so that's the story. But, anyway Okay. What? Yeah. That's all crazy.

It's no. It's a it doesn't have a happy ending. Turns out she's 1 of those ladies that has, like, cats Uh-oh. And everything she wears is purple. Yeah.

You know? I don't know if these people exist anymore.

No. They do. They definitely do.

So, anyway So

a lot of them listen to the show actually. Yeah.

Anyway, no. Some of them are I I've known I've known more than a few, but, but this 1 had to have the kitchen painted purple. And, she

used to live in a kitchen,

what they call it, garden apartment, which is, like, below the ground level. So all the pipes of the whole building came through her kitchen ceiling. So I had to paint all those hot pipes. So I was purple for about a week to 8 days or so. Oh, nice.

It's gone. And burned the 2. What is so

And from that point on, you knew you wanted to do improv. That's crazy.

You know, I don't know if I ever you've ever been speckled with purple paint, but

it puts

a fire it lights a fire in you. It lights a fire and you gotta keep going.

What so I went to actually, so in high school, we went to 2nd city. I played in the jazz this is kind of embarrassing to say. I played in the jazz ensemble. We were tour different cities. And 1 of the cities we went to was Chicago.

Nerd.

Went to 2nd city. It was awesome. That was my first experience with improv. I've recently have been back to an improv show for the first time since then, which was 2004. I went to Upright Citizens Brigade in LA, and I did their Ask Cat show.

Are you familiar with that? Where they invite, like, a a guest who does, like, a monolog. And then from that monolog, the crew just Just

takes off.

And I mean, just some of the the funniest Did you do a monolog? I did a monolog. I did a a show. What was

your theme?

We just took questions from like the audience and then you'd go into a story from there. I told the story about how I got lost at the county fair, and mom had to try and search for us.

But Classic.

Just watching how people how they could play off of each other. I was mesmerized just watching the whole show take place. How do you I don't know. I I now that we're talking about improv, I just I wanna ask you. How do you learn to do that?

Like, are there techniques? Are there things that happen behind the show where you build, like, a chemistry with the per like, it just it seemed insane to me that they were able to make all

this stuff. Gonna be yet another career change for you?

Another 1.

1st year of jazz music and then This is football thing.

I think this is after good.

The podcast.

Well, the guys that are really good, I don't consider myself a great improviser. There were people that were far that are were always better than I was. Yeah. But people that are good at it, and my and my brother Joel is very good at it, is listening to what the other person says and trying to figure out they're giving you information. What do you do with that information?

Right.

You know, bad improvisers are people that have an idea what they're gonna do, and they just sort of try to barrel through it. Well, that's a 1 man show. You know? It's not a team game. And it's, you know, the the dictum is yes, and.

You know? You say something to me. I agree with that, and, and I I come back with that. You never deny what someone says. You you you build on what they give you.

You're starting with building blocks of information. That's how it goes. And, you know, the better people can make something that's really, really magical, you know, because if you really connect to the ideas that are being shared, especially in like a group improv, like a 9 person, 12 person, like a they call it the Herald, you know, where you could take an idea that's over that this group over here brings up and and and weave them together into something that's an amazing amazing experience.

I love it, man.

But what is interesting about improv, it feels like they do oftentimes do make great actors. They do make great writers. Like, all the people on the wall in that second city when I was there back then to see all these wonderful Well, they

only put the good people on.

Let's start with that. That's true. That's that's very There are

hundreds the squad and the

rockfish station. Yep. Dozens that are buried in a shallow grave just the other side of of North Avenue.

It feels like improv as opposed to, like, stand up. I would like, it feels like there's, like, a a natural Well,

I'm I'm naturally, prejudiced towards towards our team. You know? Yeah. I I we always feel like at at Saturday Night Live. Yeah.

You know, those people were sort of most of them were kind of improvisational players. You know? Right. And the ones that could do that just seemed to be able to, like, work together better and, most especially because you'd write the show on a weekly basis. She only had a couple days to write it.

Yeah. So those those actors that had that had that kind of training could sort of solve the puzzle of the sketch on on the air almost. You know? It'd be like, you know, you could be like, hey. Wait.

This what if and and you just sort of go there in the last hour or 2 just to make it right. You know? You could rewrite just because you were aware. You you had all that all that information, what scene could be or what it was supposed to be.

And

you could figure out an ending. So that's When you see those actors, they basically make it do better. The ones that were standup guys were you know, sort of made more like stand up pieces, more solo pieces that were spectacular. You know? You know, Eddie Murphy in the hot tub or whatever.

You know, those guys made those kinds of performance pieces. But the ensemble pieces and they they're actually doing really great ones now. They they do some really you know, people always give me a hard time about, oh, god. The original show was so great and it's lousy now. I'm like, no.

It's not. The show that's on now, they do stuff that's just as good as anybody ever did all the time.

Oh, I love it, man. SNL is still 1 of my favorites. What do you I do before we get into your your SNL career, what do you what do you do?

Talk about me all the time. You guys can talk about

Travis did SNL. Absolutely. You did it. Right? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I hosted, 2 years ago. Yeah. After the

the I saw I mean, I saw some of it. I recorded. So because because I'm I usually go to something else, but I saw some of it. It was funny.

I appreciate that, man. It was it was an absolute blast. So you just buckle up and you just enjoy that ride, man. And it and like you said, the the scenes, the sketches can change last minute because somebody has a has the brilliance of mind to to either take something out or put a punch liner in, man.

And the damn producer's gotten so good. He's gotten so damn good at it. He's just ruthless.

Who's that?

I forget his name.

Yeah. What's what's the what's what's the

no. He's he's born mic

for that show? Yeah. He's been

on he's been drawing a paycheck for 50 years. He's on a

I just,

that was 1 thing.

The Apple TV movie, Saturday night on their first Oh, yeah. First ever, show, like the 90 minutes leading up to that first show with Belushi kinda going crazy and, just all the madness that happens in there and the magic that happens as well of, it finally coming together and them going live, man, and the rest is history. But, for those SNL lovers out there, man, make sure you check that 1 out. I did I I really do wanna know what do you what do you think it is about second city that prepares so many people? Because it's almost like a pipeline or at least it was for SNL for

for quite a while. Well, it sure was. I mean, now it's a now it's like a, it's like University of Phoenix or something. There's, like, 1,000 of people there. They've got like a they have, like, a high rise of of, like, classes of people taking the thing.

But it used to be sort of a gritty kind of you know, practice squad, 3rd string, 2nd string, 1st string kind of thing. Yeah. And you had to you know, you knew who was better than you loud and clear. You know, it was very clear who could do it and who couldn't. And if you weren't as good as that person, you just had to just keep chewing.

Nice.

So and that's how it was pretty much. I mean, recently, I don't know who's on First Aim or about coming out there, but, I mean, they had a great run of people that came out of there, like, when Chris Farley and those people came out of there. That that was a good group and the original, like, Belushi and, you know, myself, Gilda, Ak Wright, you know, those those people. You know? So it comes like probably the same deal comes in waves, you know, but now there's so many I don't know what to make of it, but it's it's a great thing to learn how to do.

It's great way to if you're gonna

live life like that too. You you talked about this. I think the improv thing, if you like, you you would bring up this, like, a team game. If you're working with other people in, like, a collaborative experience. When Travis was on SNL, that was the 1 thing that stood out about SNL is the amount of people that make that show possible.

And, you know, you brought up Lorne. I didn't know what to expect from Lorne going to it. I didn't know that he was still, like, doing the whole thing in, like, a very active manner. Like, even up until, like, right before the thing goes live, right after that first rehearsal, he's cutting things Oh, yeah. And changing bits.

Like, all the people, all the the the the makeup, the the wardrobe, everybody's got, like, their own pit crew. It felt the most like a game day for football outside of that experience.

You ain't lying.

Yeah. You see that when people win a championship, they say they'll they credit the whole organization. And it really is that way. Yeah. Mhmm.

And I've said this, you know, this is old news, but like when Lorne got that show together, he demanded from NBC that they give him the best sound man, the best sound mixer, the best technical director, the best lighting guy, the best prop man. And all those guys that were on that show were the best in the business at doing it. So that when, you know, Mickey Mouse here comes up and, like, blows it. And, Willie, the prop man says, Billy, I was there waiting for you at the door. I had the pistol in my hand.

You didn't get there on time. Like, and he kills you. He's just he looks at you like, you're not there yet, son. You're just not there yet. And he was like, wow.

But I also credit those people because And they were there on the original shows, like Your Show of Shows and like Milton Berle. And they've been on the, like, the biggest shows of television in the early days. And so they'd seen people go from being unknown to being famous

Yeah.

In a short amount of time. And they saw they'd seen how big a jerk you can become in just a miraculously short amount of time. Yeah. And they they just, you know, they it was the same look like. They just look at you going and you knew that somehow you'd screwed up like many people had screwed up before.

Yeah. And

it was sort of up to you to you to figure it out. So they were they were incredible teachers. Yeah. They I'm sure they were still the same. Yeah.

They made it extremely comfortable for a jabroni like me to come through and, and have some fun, live out 1 of his childhood dreams, man. In terms of the hosts from when you were on, when you were working for SNL, who who was the most memorable or the 1 maybe that, that blew you away with their ability to go from 1 world into the, SNL, like, hosting?

There's only 1 that stands above all others. The man that, when they made the song, we are the world, I don't know who it was, said, hey. The Statue of Liberty just walked in. And it was Ray Charles.

Oh, wow. Oh. Holy cow. Nice.

Ray Charles completely buries every other entertainer I've ever met or worked

with or

read about.

Why is that? In what way?

I'm a make it do what it do, baby.

Ray Charles, that night came on, not only did he memorize all his lines. I mean, I is it is it is it I don't wanna say Ray Charles was not using cue cards. Okay. I wanna say that. Ray Charles was not using cue cards.

Ray Charles knew all his lines cold. Ray Charles came on and played solo. He played with the Raylettes. He played with his septet, and he played with Saturday Night Live Orchestra. And he may have played with his quintet as well, and he killed and murdered every single 1 of them.

I know you Yeah.

I got

that. Show, they play that song. They play the song. The saxophone's playing. You're like, hey, man.

I had a great week. You're up there on the stage. You're waving to people. I did not wanna stand on that stage. I had no business being on the stage with Ray Charles.

That's awesome. Wow.

That is so fucking cool, man. That would I would not gonna lie. I wasn't expecting Ray, man. That's awesome.

He was the coolest, man.

Well, you got the, the 50th, season celebration coming up. You, you're gonna go back to the old stomping grounds?

Yeah. Certainly. Yeah. Actually, I I told him I'd like to host 1 this year. So maybe if I get organized, but I think that I I think I did it 2 other times and when I was there.

So I'd like to try it 1 more time. Is that it might be the last time to try it.

When you go back, do you have, like, skits that you would have in mind?

When I go back, the guys down at the desk say, do you have a photo ID, sir? And I gotta go, would you mind dialing this number and seeing if someone would come down and get me? I mean, we used to breeze through that place. You know, we that was our goal.

We were giving me a hard time. Yeah. And

I can't get through security. I cannot get through security. They're not kidding around.

I love it, man. Well, hopefully, we'll be able to see a host 1 this year.

Yeah. Let's let's transition a little bit to the movie career. What, you know, we talked about some of your iconic movies earlier. We just golfed, so we gotta bring up Caddyshack. You talked about being a caddie earlier.

Was your character based off somebody? Like,

when you

were when you were on the course?

Yeah. My character, my my character originally had 1 small scene in the movie. And I I did have 1 line in the movie. I can't remember which what it was exactly. But there was another greenskeeper, a Scottish man.

But they end up liking my stuff, and they kept asking me to come back down and shoot more stuff.

So that's stuff, was it? Yeah.

My stuff wasn't in the script. No. That is fucking gold, man.

They're like, you gotta get more of this guy. Well,

I we were I was having fun, you know, and I had the spirit of it. You know, I was a caddy too, so and I'd been a greenskeeper. I'd actually been a greenskeeper as well. So I had that thing nailed, screwed, and glued. You know?

I could come in and and be powered You keep those positions.

Keeping the lawn you keeping the lawn

in the back looking nice and tight? Just just in case you need to take a few wedges back there? No. No. No.

No. Mine mine mine is a waste area.

Did did you realize at the time that that movie would be the icon that it ended up becoming even before?

No. Back then, you were just doing it to have fun. Yeah. You didn't think about Gosh. You didn't you were just having the most fun.

You know? And that was that was a crazy that was a bunch of really, really funny people in 1 place. That was that was a dangerous group of funny people. We, you know, we lost some people on that movie. There's some people that tried to compete on that movie and just, boop, there they go, downstream.

The other 1. But there were that was, you know, think about who those characters were. You know? Absolutely. Ted Knight and Rodney, Chevy and

Chevy. So cool, man.

It was a great bunch of characters. It was really Brian. Like, I'm I'm forgetting most everybody, Michael. Yeah. But it was a it was a nice bunch.

We talked about this out on the course, Ann, earlier. Kingpin is a Lain Johnson and I would just rave about that movie and quote Ermacraken. Is Ermacraken the best movie villain of all time potentially?

Dude, he's saying

some of the cruelest things.

I mean, just like talk about just a bad guy.

Oh, just a bad guy. Hey, you. Yeah. Not not you. Not you.

Not you. Not you. Not you. Not you. I had to change hats here.

This is the caveman. This is the official logo of the of the the design team, the the the builders and grinders. Yeah. That was a cruel the 1 the cruelest thing I ever said professionally. They're doing a scene we're doing we're in a coffee shop scene, and I'm just playing this total creep.

And I think I'm stealing bags of sugar at the time or something. I don't know what I'm doing. But I put it in. Look over at some women at the next table and I

said, hey.

How are you? And, 1 of the ladies, they were just like day players. They they didn't have lights. She said, I'm okay. I said, no.

Not you.

Not you. You. You.

And it was just the meanest, meanest thing I could do.

Are you so mean? And there

was this silence that was so So so horrible. It was so horrible. And the director, they're fairly they just let it go. They just let this horrible thing just sink in. And finally, after about 99 seconds, they said, cut.

And I had to like go get on my knees in front of this woman saying, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. I'm just playing a horrible person. You're very, very beautiful. You're very beautiful.

If I didn't have to work right now, we'd leave, you know, we'd leave everybody. It was so horrible. I was just like, oh, God. Please say cut so I can get this apology over over with. It was so bad.

I gotta know how this movie came about, man. Did you, like, know exactly the character and, like, how to portray him, or did you kinda just, like, fall into it?

I kinda well, they've certainly I mean, the fairies wrote a really, you know, pretty great sketch of it. But to their credit, they kept saying, and I can't pimp them now because it worked, but they would say, how about if you say this? And it would be I'd say, let me try something. And because they would they'd sort of throw 1 up there on the wall. They were throwing spaghetti on the wall all the time.

Yeah. But it made you always think more like, okay. No. It's the opposite of improv. But yes, and yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That idea, but something. So it made it just really fun, and it just kept getting better. And and the more they said they would suggest ridiculous things, you go, okay.

Do you wanna go in there? I

I'm going I got that I got that area, but how about if I knock down a 5 iron instead? Sorta like that. It was sorta like, yeah. I know where you're going here, but let me see what I can do.

It seems like you're a natural athlete. Were you always a bowler as well? Or? Yeah.

I'm I'm a I'm a natural athlete. Just a natural

athlete.

That today.

With that. Actually, I'm very proud of that. All those strikes I rolled, I rolled those live. I rolled all those strikes live.

Did you nail those last 3?

1. I rolled

them live. Last frame?

I rolled them live. Against Roy? That's awesome. And I nailed them all. They couldn't you know, because all they're thinking is how many takes is this gonna take?

Yeah. Yeah. So Every single 1

I rolled with a professional.

Every single 1 I rolled, I rolled a strike. That was my that may have been an athletic peak for me. I got that. That was pretty good. Of course, they're editing of that movie.

What's that song? Who is with us? Well, Showdown. It's like ELO. Is it showdown?

The music of that that that pull off thing

and that hair thing? Yeah.

Yeah. The hair thing was a really good thing too.

You nailed that.

Also a meme. Oh my

yeah. Yeah.

I send those memes and that that little short video out to everyone when I'm just feeling unstoppable. Either turn at the right dude, it is fucking gold.

So good.

When I get my special Oscar, when they wheel me out, that's the footage I want. It's

so good, man.

Yeah. That was I I and I like to say the first day at work in the in the makeup trailer, I said, there's I'm next to Woody Harrelson. I go like, Woody, what are you gonna do with your hair? He said, I'm going with the comb over. And I said, Me too.

My comb over guy was the comb over guy. Yeah.

Nice. Yeah. That's so cool, man.

We both had some pretty funny comb overs in that 1.

There was some great hair scenes.

I had to go to I'd had to I knew I didn't see the movie. And I and I only really saw I only really saw what I shot. I didn't see, like, all this other stuff that they'd done.

Oh, yeah.

Like the landlord stuff with the lady.

Oh my gosh.

Oh. This is so gruesome. Just so horrible. Sade, I'm gonna send you a VCR.

Mister Mutzine, I took Oh.

And this stuff was so rough and so raw. And I took my son Luke to it and he was 10. And I never I didn't see a lot of this stuff. And there

was stuff Oh my gosh. Stuff. Oh my god.

There was stuff that was in the movie that, when we were doing it, I said, no. No. No. You can't use that.

And he said,

no. No. No. Just say it. We're not gonna use it.

I'm like, no. No. You're not gonna say it. And they they cheated, and they cut things together that were inappropriate.

Yeah. Yeah.

Inappropriate. Selfishly, I thank them.

I was so stunned. We walked in silence. I'm walking with my 10 year old son. We walked in silence about 2 and a half blocks to a parking garage to get to the car. I hadn't said a word and he said, You were good, dad.

Yeah. He's

Did he ask any questions about the The designer told us.

That wasn't obviously your fault. You were good, dad.

Classic man.

You know

what the Bible says about forgiveness? It's against it. Which time?

It's against it. Okay. You mean the eye for an eye thing or the other thing?

Well, Speaking of people that you've worked with, we talked about, you know, your favorite on SNL.

That is true. Movie. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Who's your favorite, I don't know, actor or person you've worked with in the film industry? You did Space Champ with Michael Jordan?

I well, he was probably the best shooting guard that I worked with.

Larry Larry, the best move forward.

And, it's actually, Larry was the best he was in that movie too. He was the best move forward.

So good.

Yeah. That was fun. That was a very fun movie. We got to we shot we played golf in between scenes. It was a lot of fun.

I don't wanna go get too much into Space Jam, but it is 1 of the childhood favorites of ours, and so many others, man. How how did how did Space Jam come into play for you? Were you you just like because you were so in the sports world as well, like your fandom and your your ability to kinda dive into all these sports, Did that did that play into getting the role? Or

So I knew, Ivan Reitman who I'd made a couple of movies with already, Ghostbusters and Stripes and Meatballs. He was a producer on it. It was a Warner Brothers movie, I think. And they had to build a basketball court for Michael on the line. And they built like a serious basketball court with a weight room.

Yeah. For And it was

like the game. Like if you were an American basketball player, you had to suck your way into that that game every night. And Michael would play after work when they were on on location on the set on on in in the studio. And it was like a real serious wood floor gym and the whole deal. And that was a real like, every if you no matter what team you played for, you had to get into that game because that was who was who and who wasn't.

That's so cool.

But they I don't know. I just like to say that about 9 people said, you know, Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam, which is like I get a kick ass saying this all the time. I like pimp Michael all the time, whatever I can. But Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is not.

That's all you gotta do is do it. Because it just means you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number. Yeah. Right. I bet you if he sets his mind to it, he could find my phone number.

Yeah. Or he could find out where I live or even, you know, walk up on the street.

Nice. Not a hard road.

So, but basically, I know there are people like that in the world, and you'll meet them. They feel like they never wanna be indebted to anybody for anything. They don't wanna know anybody anything. So, they'll have their people sort of ask something. Have you ever noticed this?

Yes, of course. Yeah.

So, they'll have someone else ask for you. Yeah. So, I knew exactly day 1, I knew exactly what was coming here. I heard it from everybody. I probably heard it from like 13 different people.

And the more people, the more I enjoyed it because I knew it was like, that son of a bitch is just twisting knowing he's gotta ask me himself. But it was good. He finally, he did. God bless him. And it turns out

the golf course?

Where did

he find you? I don't I don't really remember. Down there?

I don't really remember, but it was good. I was glad I was there, and, I I contributed to that movie.

You had you had to have gotten in at least 1 of the games.

Oh, no. I I had no. No. I mean, I don't think I I may have just only shot a basket before the game. That that game was like I mean, they were emptying prisons to get into that game.

They were they would never be allowed to play in the NBA. They were playing in that game. There were just some amazing athletes Wow. In that game. And like like the best high school players that try to show up there and they just Michael just kicked their ass.

He would just

Oh, I

love it. When people would come in there thinking that they had game and Michael just murder him. He was he was a killer.

You just you just don't have, like, stories or, like, a legend like that anymore. Like, everything is just so social media forward that it like, stuff like that just gets posted, and the story of it, the legend of it never, like, rides anymore. And I just love stuff like that, like, like stories of doctor j playing on the on the playground or stories of Michael Jordan having these, like, basketball gyms everywhere he goes so they can stay on top of his game while he's working, man. And

it was never a thing like Michael Jordan called up someone and said, hey. I'm having a basketball game. It was the same deal. It's like Michael Jordan is having a game. You know?

And and the and it was not like anyone at all was invited. And you could tell that no 1 was invited. You could tell that, like, Reggie Miller wasn't invited sort of, but he was he had to be there. Yeah. Because he was Reggie Miller.

He's like, wait a minute. I'm the best shooter. I got him. All these guys it it wasn't like any like Michael was particularly friendly towards anybody. You know?

It was like, I'm gonna kill you. It was it was fun. To see. It was like a line out

the door at Warner Brothers are just NBA stars just with their gym bag, just waiting

to stay safe.

Every level. I mean, like every 9 PM. Every yeah. Like, all of UCLA, Southern Cal, every historic guy was there thinking that they could still play. There was a grimness about it.

You see that, like, that dream team doc, you know, where Oh, yeah. All of a sudden it gets real serious.

Oh, yeah.

Well, it was like that You where you go like, oh my god. There you know, it wasn't exactly blood, and it wasn't exactly fighting, but it was, you know, it was

I would assume that Michael set the tone for that because when you watch The Last Dance and you watch the dream team and you hear his competitive nature, you know, you you would assume that he he definitely set that tone when everybody walked in that in that gym. Like, this is for, I mean, for lack of a better word, this is for killers or, like, guys that that love to compete so much that they're gonna get you're gonna get every ounce of it tonight. Like, I feel like that that's what's just how

Don't ever play golf with them. Don't ever play golf with them. Now I'm telling you.

Alright. We're gonna get to this last section. You've

What is this last section?

It's called we gotta ask. We ask you a bunch of questions. There's only a couple in here, but you don't have to ask me. Haven't asked you. We gotta ask, but

you don't

have to ask me.

Well, you can absolutely ask any questions you want.

I don't know if I'm that way. We'll find out after you ask me.

Alright. You don't have to answer it. You can tell us the fuck off. Please, let me finish your question at least first. So we recently reviewed Roadhouse, the original Patrick Swayze film.

Yes.

There is a legend out there that, you used to call the husband of Kelly Lynch, who plays doctor Clay anytime, a particular scene came on with Patrick Swayze on the television. Is this rumor true?

1 of the hardest things I ever had to do was to call a friend. And and at a at a late hour, I mean, very very and not without some some back and forth. Should I? Should I? Should I?

Should I? And as a friend

You had to do it.

I did not I did not identify myself, but I just hey, as a friend, I think you should probably turn on TBS right now.

Because,

that son of a bitch, Pat Swayze, is slam it to your wife.

Oh my gosh.

Well, who from what? Swayze Swayze, may you rest in peace to a lot of wonderful things. A beloved guy, but that was wrong what he did.

Dude, this is why you're you're the legend.

God. That's so good. That's right.

Thank you for this gold, man.

He's he's wrong. He's wrong. Are we done now?

Bill Murray, ladies and gentlemen.

Bill, thank you so much for coming on our show.

Pissed I missed this 1, man. Fuck.

Okay. I'm sorry you weren't here for this, but Yeah.

You also missed out on the best energy bar I've ever been given in my life from Bill.

You got some good energy?

The best, like, pre round like, in round snack.

I think I still got the Yeah. It's street. It's you got it. What's

the street healthy?

Dude, I'm

telling you right now. Plax snacks.

Yeah. It's some Plax Snacks? This is a it's the it's the mini version. Bar. Fruitcake.

It's Claxton Fruitcake. Dude, I'm telling you And it's made in Claxton, Georgia about 20 miles there.

You some.

This is an amazing sideline. People have gone to war like in Europe over fruitcake. This is the greatest fruitcake ever made, and it's extraordinary. It's so damn good.

I'm gonna be honest.

And it was We stopped there. We stopped there last 2 years ago, on the way. A bunch. It

it's real quick. Do deliver.

And these guys are golfers too, which is even more more wonderful.

It's in the realm of, like, energy bar on the course.

Well, it's a fruitcake, but it's it's the best tasting 1 you've ever had. Am I not you are not exaggerating by it at all. It's very good. And it's just a burst of energy.

These guys are gonna

be thrilled with this marketing. But

it is It's really good. Are are the people paying for the ads? Basically, they're gonna be very

upset with how good this ad just was. But damn it.

It's a damn good fruit bar, so they deserve it. Fuck.

It's it's really good. And if you have I the have these in your golf bag is a great thing because it's like you get weaker on 14, you know, too much beer or whatever. Yeah. Son, I'll take the 5 iron in 1 of those clacks down here. Well, hey.

Yeah. David, it's so

Well, thank you so much for joining us. Missus. This was awesome. Thank

you. Thanks, New York. Alright. Okay. Well, enjoy that Kansas City experience.

So who's gonna win the Super Bowl?

Come on now. Trav thinks it's gonna be Kansas City.

Who's gonna be your competition? Let me put it this way. Who's gonna be your competition in the Super Bowl?

I think a little Eagles rematch. They're getting hot at the right time.

They are getting hot at the right time.

They're getting hot at the right time.

It'll be I think it's it's it's in the AFC at the Chiefs and the Bills. And then in the NFC, Detroit and Philly seem to be the top. Well, hell, I coulda

come up with that. You guys are supposed to be pros. Oh, welcome to the The Lions and Eagles. Oh, nice work, fellas.

And that wraps up another episode of new heights. That's right. Thank you to our incredible guest, Bill. Dude, this is I think this is the outside of talking to you on a weekly basis because we obviously enjoy doing that.

Yeah.

I just I can't believe that I fucking played golf today What the fuck? And did a podcast episode with Bill Murray.

You son of a bitch.

What the fuck are we how do we get all the

fun shit in season, don't you?

Well, you keep playing football. I'll keep having all the fun out here. By the way, never leave. Never grow up. Stay as long as you can.

It's a little dark.

Although, it is pretty cool when you get to have days with Gilmer, but I don't know that that's happening again. Alright. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube to the New Heights channel and follow New Heights on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcast. No. No.

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Yeah. Thanks, guys. Jake, you wanna come in and talk about that jet skin? Do Bill's response to the Roadhouse question?

I'm so glad that we did that movie because it had Bill.

It was a good

Like, it was just teed up so well. It

was a good job, intern.

Ernie McCracken himself.

I wanted to just rip off quotes the entire episode, but I felt like

Anytime you have, like, an aster for that, he's just kind of

wanna talk about himself.

It's not his vibe. Although he he appreciated when you brought up some of the quotes. Are you hanging on? Are you still upset about that? I said I was sorry, and I meant it.

It's 1 of my favorite lines of that movie. Are you still upset? Fuck.

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