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New DNA evidence ties Charlie Kirk's suspected shooter to the scene, as the FBI says it's now looking beyond the primary assassin.

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I promise you, if there's a larger network here, we're going to get that out to the public as soon as we can.

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I'm Georgia Howe with Daily Wire executive editor, John Bickley. It's Tuesday, September 16th, and this is Morning Wire.

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Zoran Mamdani scores a major endorsement for New York mayor as he puts forth a controversial public safety plan. I've actually found support for this vision of the DCS, of this idea of the removal of mental health crisis from the NYPD's set of responsibilities.

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And the White House threatened Brazil after its Supreme Court sentences the Trump of the Tropics to 27 years in prison.

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Thanks for waking up with Morning Wire. Stay tuned. We have the news you need to know. As Conservatives rally together following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the FBI says they're investigating radical left-wing groups for potential ties to the killer.

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Daily Wire senior editor, Kabbit Phillips, has the details. So Kabbit, we already have a suspect in custody, but now we're hearing about some of his potential ties. What do we know so far?

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Yeah, authorities seem totally confident right now that Tyler Robinson acted alone in pulling the trigger. Dna evidence found on a screwdriver and towel left the scene have matched with the 22-year-old. But now they want to know if he coordinated this attack with anyone else or even shared plans ahead of time with potential collaborators. Among those being investigated by law enforcement is the far left pro-transgender group, Armd Queers, Salt Lake City. They deleted their Instagram account shortly after the shooting, but a membership form online listed their core principles, which included, The armed and militant protection of queer and trans communities, trans liberation, and an organized revolutionary movement. The bureau was also looking into a number of social media users who seemingly displayed potential foreknowledge of the assassination. For example, one leftist user on X wrote beforehand, It would be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September 10th. Again, that came a week beforehand. Another post read, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow. I really hope someone evaporates him, literally. Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow. Then according to FBI Director Cash Vatel, Robinson told at least one person beforehand that we of what he planned on doing.

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He had a text message exchange. He, the suspect with another individual in which he claimed that he had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and he was going to do it because of his hatred for what Charlie stood for.

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Patel then went on to say that Robinson wrote a note ahead of time detailing his plans. That note was destroyed, but thankfully, recovered by the bureau.

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Now, we also heard from a number of Trump administration officials yesterday. What did they say?

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Yeah, Vice President J. D. Vance filled in to host the Charlie Kirk Show Monday, offering encouragement to listeners, vowing to carry on Charlie's legacy, and sharing an emotional tribute to his fallen friend.

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Books that I've read to my kids, going up to their bedroom and kissing them and hugging them before bed. I just realized that all of these moments that I get to have, Charlie is not able to have them anymore. Charlie's kids and his beautiful wife are not able to have them anymore. Maybe the best way that I can contribute and the best way that I could honor my dear friend is to be the best husband that I can be.

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Then it's also brought on Caroline Levin and other White House staff, including Deputy Chief Stephen Miller, who vow to channel his, Righteous Anger to go after those responsible.

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It is a vast domestic terror movement. With God as My Witness, we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security, and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy these networks, and make America We're safe again for the American people. It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.

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In a really just powerful moment, VP Vance offered strong words for anyone celebrating Charlie's death. Have a listen.

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There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family lost a dear friend. There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination. There is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree.

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To that earlier point that Steven Miller made, it's worth reiterating something we've talked about on the show, and that is the legacy media's just clear reluctance to address the shooter's political ideology and the role that it could have played here. To Despite the now overwhelming evidence that he was a leftist who hated Charlie Kirk for his conservative views, a nationwide poll conducted this Sunday showed that more Americans believe the shooter was on the political right, not the political left. So clearly, the truth is not getting out. Fbi Director Cash Patel once again sought to clarify that point on Monday.

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His family has collectively told investigators that he subscribed to left-wing ideology, and even more so in these last couple of years.

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So it seems obvious that the The muddying of the waters from the media in those early days after the shooting is clearly playing a role with average Americans. As we continue to see so many folks still celebrating Charlie's death, it's worth going through some of the polling data on this topic. For example, a recent YouGov poll showed that only 3% of self-identified, very conservative Americans view political violence as ever acceptable. For very liberal Americans, though, that number is 25%. So they're eight times more likely to say that political violence is to fight.

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Well, that's a trend we saw really accelerate since 2016. Kabbit, thanks for reporting. Absolutely.

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Radical left candidate Zoran Mondani just got a major endorsement for New York City's mayor. Meanwhile, he's just dropped his new plan to replace officers with mental health teams.

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Here with the details is Daily Wire reporter, Amanda Presta-Jacquomo. So Amanda, Momdani just landed a major endorsement from New York's Democrat governor, Kathy Hochul, Hokal. First, why is her endorsement so significant?

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Well, this could get the Democrat Party establishment behind Mamdani. Hokal notably kept her distance from him during the New York City mayoral primary. Mamdani is an open democratic socialist, and he has some extremely far left ideas, including government run grocery stores. With this endorsement from Hokal, there's a lot of speculation that we'll see other prominent Democrat leaders throw their support behind him, too, now.

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Why is Hochul backing Mamdani, has she said?

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Well, she didn't say this in her New York Times op-ed, but she's facing the political reality that she needs to be on good terms with the future mayor. It does look like Momdani is probably going to win, barring some major shakeup. So this is someone she'll likely have to work with very soon. She's also running for re-election in 2026. Some politicos think that she's just so disliked by folks in the suburbs and most of upstate New York, that she's really going to have to lean on the urban vote, and that's where Momdani has really strong support.

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Now, in the op-ed, what were the reasons she for why she's supporting him?

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Well, Huckle said that she's backing Mom Donnie because he's focused on affordability as she is. And unsurprisingly, she also really zeroed in on Trump. She said that she wants the next mayor to be someone who won't surrender one inch to President Trump, and she complained about the abhorrent and destructive policies coming out of Washington every day. She added that they must not allow Trump to control New York City like the, quote, King he wants to be.

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So some familiar rhetoric there. Has Trump responded to this at all?

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Yeah, he did. On Monday morning, he said that Hochul endorsed the, quote, Little Communist Zoran Mamdani, and he called it a rather shocking development and a very bad one for New York City. In this recent post, Trump said that Washington is going to be watching the situation, and he added that he sees no reason to be sending good money after bad. Now, that right there does suggest that there'll be less cooperation with the feds when Hochul requests federal dollars for her state or New York City, specifically. It was just months ago that Hochul was thanking Trump for billions of federal dollars that she had asked for to help reconstruct Penn Station. That relieved New York taxpayers of a $1. 3 billion burden. Perhaps that federal help is not as easily obtained in the future.

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Now, just a day after Hochul's endorsement, Mamdani dropped a new version of his controversial plan to replace police officers with mental health teams for some emergency Community Calls. What do we know about that plan?

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Yeah, Mamdani first announced back in April that he wants to create a citizen-led Department of Community Safety. Now, this agency would deploy social workers, so-called violence interrupters, typically people with criminal history, and mental health teams to respond to non-v violent 911 calls. It would cost the city about $1. 1 billion total, and it would shift some NYPD funds as well as adding new costs. His newly refined version of this agency, which was announced yesterday, it tries to moderate this idea somewhat. For example, Mamdani clarified that he wants to keep police staffing where it's at instead of making any cuts. His opponents, by the way, want to boost police forces. Mamdani is largely viewed as anti police, and he's trying to combat that image. Back in 2020, he called the NYPD, Racist, Anti-Queer, and a Major Threat to Public Safety, and he demanded that they be defunded. Now, this idea of community policing, it was widely panned by law enforcement experts back in April. For one thing, they say a mental health crisis might start out as non-violent, but that could easily escalate if ill-prepared people attempt to intervene.

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While Democrats need to tread carefully because they were really punished for the defund the police movement. Amanda, thanks for reporting.

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You're welcome.

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After a two-week public trial, Brazil's five Supreme Court justices sentenced former President Jair Bolsonaro to 27 years in prison for an alleged coup attempt. The Trump administration is now threatening severe consequences.

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Joining us now to discuss is Andres Martínez Fernandez, Senior Policy Analyst for Latin America at the Heritage Foundation. Andres, thank you so much for coming on.

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Thanks for having me.

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We've seen Brazil's former President, Jair Bolsonaro, who many have likened to Trump in the past. He was convicted late last week. First, for those who have not been tracking this It's a pretty remarkable case. What was the argument against him?

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Well, what the Supreme Court in Brazil was alleging is that the ex-president of Brazil was organizing a coup to undermine the electoral outcome from the elections in 2022 that would perpetuate him in power. The allegations are that he utilized the military and other public institutions in an effort to affect that change and preserve his mandate.

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For this, he's now sentenced to 27 years in prison. There are already reports about government officials considering amnesty for Bolsonaro. That's something we've seen with past leaders in coup attempts in Brazil. Why is amnesty on the table and what would need to happen for him to go free?

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Well, there's a significant amount of discussion around amnesty in this case, in particular because it's highly controversial. There's really a lot of doubt about the veracity of these accusations, a lot of questions about the evidence being insubstantial and the conclusions that were drawn from that by, again, a court which has also been at the center of a lot of controversy, really being brought into question by the public and the Brazilian political class in general. Because this is a case which has a lot of question marks around it, and particularly with this sentencing, which is dramatic over 25 years for this person who just a few years ago was occupying the top office in Brazil, is very controversial at the moment. So a lot of Congress in Brazil and others are exploring very actively the need to take action to bypass this sentencing.

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If that happens, if Bolsonaro is granted amnesty, will he be able to run again for office in the future?

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So under this conviction, he is no longer able to run for president. That's certainly significant as as its impact because he remains the most popular figure on the right in Brazil, certainly, and was certainly in discussions for being a leading figure. Again, this is part of why there are a lot of questions about whether or not justice was being followed here in this case or whether there was a political motivation around these upcoming elections.

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Speaking of that, the political criticisms Secretary of State, Marco Rubio said in response to the ruling that the US will, and I'm quoting, respond accordingly to this it's witch hunt. That's the language they're using. Why does the administration view this as a witch hunt and what actions do you expect them to take?

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Well, like I said, I think that there's a lot that hasn't been answered as to the gap between the allegations which the Supreme Court has brought and the evidence that has been revealed as far as the complicity of the former President of Brazil. At the same time, there are a lot of very serious questions about political bias by the court itself, which has not just in this case, but in several others, shown itself to be a very political entity, including with a high-profile battle with Elon Musk and the platform of Twitter then. But really, there's a disconnect, I think that a lot of people see, and this administration certainly sees, between the pursuit of justice and the political priorities that we see the Supreme Court in Brazil pursuing. That's what the administration administration is really seeking to counter, leveraging the United States economic heft and influence in that country. But it's clearly going to be a very significant challenge here. We'll see if the amnesty path is an out here, but there's a lot of political interest really at play here.

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Indeed. We'll see if this talk of amnesty actually turns into action. Meanwhile, it appears economic sanctions are in the works in the White House. Andres, thanks so much for joining us.

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Thank you.

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The FBI broadens its investigation into Charlie Kirk’s assassination, New York Mayoral hopeful Zohran Mamdani scores a major endorsement, and the White House threatens Brazil after its Supreme Court sentences the “Trump of the Tropics.” Get the facts first with Morning Wire.

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