Transcript of Episode 616: Spooky Games That Will Ruin Your Actual Life Vol.3 With Special Guest Bridget Marquardt from 'Ghost Bunny'

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Hey, weirdos. I'm Elaina. I'm Ash.

And I'm Bridget.

And this is a very special Morbid.

Yas. We have Bridget Marcourt in the house today. Did I say that right? You did. Yes. I'm not going to lie to you. I was practicing. I was so nervous to say it wrong because I've said it wrong for years. I'm sorry. That's okay. And then I listened to Ghost Bunny and I was like, Oh, that's so much simpler than I thought. Yeah.

It's just like court, like basketball court.

Yeah.

That makes sense. My last name is the same way where it looks a lot scarier and intimidating than it sounds because mine's Urkart, but it's got the Q-U-H-A-R-T. So it's like people are like Urkua Hart. And it's just like, no, Urkart. You're like, no, it's so simple.

It's the Q use.

It does. It is.

It throws you off. It does. There's not that many Qs in the world.

There isn't. No. We're rare. We're rare gemstones, us Q people.

And you got extra points in Scrabble for Q, don't you?

Oh, you do. That's worth like 10 points or something.

Yeah, hell, yeah. See? Boom. Look at us. I know.

We're even worth more. You guys are out there. All right. So let's get into it. Your new show is called Ghost Bunny, which I love the title. Oh, it's so good. And we know it's early. You have six episodes out?

Yeah, six So it's like, yeah, I think so.

By the time this comes out, you'll have 12 out. But so far, what has been your favorite episode of Ghost Bunny to research or record?

Oh, gosh. You know what? Every time I do one, it becomes my new favorite. I'm like, Oh, that was so good. I love that one. I love that guest. I love the stories we talked about. And then the next week I do another one. I'm like, oh, no, that's my favorite one. So it's really hard to pick one. It is hard. I think one that's special to me is just the very first one, and it's why I made it the first one. But I like talking about the Ghost of the Playboy mansion. I feel like there's very few people who have experienced that and can speak about it. So I had Brian Alea on. He was guest service manager for, I forget how many years now, 20 something years. Love Brian. And so he We were talking about all the different ghost stories there and his experiences, the staff's experiences, and then my own there.

That makes sense because that's from the 1920s, right?

Yeah, it was built in 1927. Started in 1926, finished in '27. What an era.

Yeah. There's lots of ghosts there, I bet.

Yeah. And I mean, just all the energy that's been through there, all the people. And it's the Playboy mansion. So it's not just normal energy either, like a hotel or somebody's house. It's really heightened energy and expectations and hopes and dreams and so much that has gone on there that I just feel like it's extra. I feel like you feel it when you're on the property.

Oh, I bet. Yeah. I feel like it would be tangible.

Oh, yeah.

And I wish so bad I could go back. I know. And walk around and just feel it and see it go in my old room.

Imagine and investigate it too.

I would. I wish.

Because to be able to have, especially now, to be able to have free reign to just investigate it how you want to would be incredible.

Yeah. It's so frustrating. Well, I mean, back in the day, I had free reign to investigate everywhere and anything I wanted to do, but I wasn't that sophisticated with all my technology or my skills because it wasn't really I know. That's the thing people were doing back then. I know.

You were like, ahead of that. You were really ahead of that. Yeah.

So I had been doing stuff, but back then, investigating was more like going somewhere in the middle of the night and carrying your camera with you, walking around your pajamas, hoping you see something in the hall. There wasn't tons of- Rembods and all this other stuff that you could- Yeah. I did. While I was at the mansion, I did start my first kit. So I had an EMF meter and a couple of things in there, some motion detectors, but it was very, very basic. Yeah.

That's so cool, though. Did you have any favorite haunted experiences there or something that really stuck with you?

Yeah. So one of my biggest things is seeing a full body apparition. Stop it. Out of the corner of my eye. That's the dream.

Oh, my God.

Where in the mansion, do you remember? Yeah, in my room. So it was the day that I... So my sister and I had gone to North Carolina to see my brother in ranger school. And on our way back, we stopped in Atlanta to get my dog. I remember this episode.

We had to put Wednesday on your chair, by the way. I see that, yeah.

We specifically did that. I love that.

And we got home that night. It was buffet dinner in a movie, so we did that. And then we came back up to my room. My sister's dead tired, just wants to go to bed. But I'm a social person, and my friend Stacey was in there, and we're having a glass of wine. We got the TV on, and I'm telling her all about our trip. And the puppy, Wednesday, is in a little fenced off area at the end of my bed, sound asleep, because that's a big day for her. Are you exhausted? Totally exhausted. And I have all her little things in there, her water, her food, her pad, all her little toys, everything. And I'm telling Stacy, so I'm sitting on my bed facing this way. Stacy's at the end of the bed. My sister's over here trying to put in earplugs and ignore us and grumpy. And then the doorway to my closet, which then goes to my bathroom, there's no entrance or exit in or out of the room from there, is right there. And all of a sudden, I see a woman standing in the doorway. And I went, and I turned to look, and my sister immediately put her hands over her head and started to cry a little bit because my sister's a scaredy cat.

And then Stacey is also a scaredy cat, but she was just like, Oh, my God, I saw something. I don't want to know what it was. What was it? She was like, you're like, all saw it. All saw it. Wow. And I probably saw the best, or at least I'm the only one that admits to seeing it the best. Everybody else is like, I just want to pretend that just didn't happen.

I feel like I didn't see anything, actually.

Yeah, let's just go to bed. Forget it. But it was a woman. She had long, dark, stringy hair. She was very pale. She was a more modern day go. She was wearing black, acidwashed jeans and a really oversize white T-shirt. And she was slumped to one side, and she was staring. And I recognize who that person was. Before I even moved to the mansion, a couple of years before, I had gone there test for Playmate, and I stayed there for three days. And I met this woman named Joni, and she was one of the social secretaries. And we stayed up one night just talking her and I really late. And she was like, I know you're going to get it. I just feel it and everything. And she was really sweet. And I could tell she was very much the house mother. Girls would come in and vent. There was a party going on outside, and some of the playmates were working it. And one of the girls came in and was venting to her about some rude guy outside and stuff. And so everybody really liked her a lot. And when I finally came back to the mansion, she wasn't there anymore, and I found out she had passed away of cancer.

And so I'm pretty sure that was her. And I think she was just coming to see the new puppy in the house. Does that make sense? Does that make sense?

And to be like, You're here. She's probably been like, see, I told you.

It was long after I had been there, so I don't think she was necessarily popping in to see me or to confirm that I told you.

You never know, though. You sat up all night together. Maybe there was a connection maybe. Maybe.

Yeah, it's true. But I definitely think she came to see the new puppy. I love that. That's so cool. Other than feeling the shock of something standing in your doorway, it wasn't a scary experience. She didn't seem malevolent. No, not at all.

I love that. That's crazy. How long did it take for you to recognize who it was? Was it instant?

It's instant because it's out of the corner of your eye. And then when you turn, it's gone. This happens to me anytime I've ever seen a full-bodied apparition. It's always here, and then you turn, and nothing. So it's It was just what I saw quickly.

Yeah. Wow. That's crazy.

And I don't even know that I knew for sure that it was her right that second, but I was thinking about it after and I'm like, know who that reminded me of? And then I went down and I told the office what I saw, and they were like, That's Joni. Wow. And then even when I just did my podcast with Brian, the first Ghost Bunny episode, I was like, I'm not going to tell you who I think it is. I'm just going to tell you what I saw, and you tell me who you think it is. And so I told him what I just told you guys, and he goes, That was Joni.

Oh, I love that.

To have that. That much confirmation around it, too. Yeah. Had anybody else ever seen her at the mansion before?

No. But here's where there's a little twist. So the OG ghost story of the mansion is that Mrs. Letz, one of the original owners haunt the Playboy mansion. And when I was telling the office that I saw Jony, they were like, Well, that's interesting, because a lot of people used to tell Jony she looked like Mrs. Lets.

So what do you think it could possibly be Mrs. Lets?

No, because I don't think the real Mrs. Lets would ever Never be caught dead in jeans and a T-shirt.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

She was very formal, social light, and from a very different era.

But very interesting.

Yeah, that two people who looked so similar would end up at the same place. Yeah. Freaky.

I always feel like there's something to do with that. Because you're like, is there some energy there or is there some reincarnation there happening? What is that about?

That is interesting. I love that. So it sounds like you've seen other paranormal things.

Yeah. Well, my very, My very first paranormal experience that I can recall was a full body apparition. Really? Wow.

And can you tell us about it? What else happened?

Yeah. I saved up my babysitting money. I was 12. Bought a Ouija board.

Okay. Hell, yeah.

First thing I've got a buy. I've always been spooky, though. I'd always loved ghost stories. I'd always love scary movies way before I should be watching that. My parents didn't care. They're like, whatever. That's Elaina. Yeah. Did not care at all. I would scare all my cousins by making them stay up and watch these movies with me and stuff.

Elaina made me spooky. Yes.

So I finally get a Ouija board, and I'm making my cousin, who's a little bit younger than me, play it. My brother, who's really little, sitting next to us, freaking out, watching us do this. And at 12 years old, you just don't know that many people that have passed away. No. So the one person I did know that we could try and talk to was my great grandfather. He had just passed away not that long before. So we're playing it. We're asking questions, and it's answering, and it's moving. But I'm accusing her of doing it. And she's accusing me of doing it. And then we get bored because obviously, one of us is moving it. So we put it away. And well, first, before I go on to the next part, my cousin had these weird Xs indented into her leg after we got done playing, and she has never recovered from that. As far as mentally, she's so rigged out by that.

She's like, something touched me.

Something marked her.

Yeah. It was just like indents. You pressed on something for too long. And I was like, was it the game? Bored?

On your leg?

But we had it on the floor between us, so it wasn't like resting on our knees. But she was so freaking out. Later in the day, we went to the movies, and she left the movie to go to the bathroom to take her pants off to see if there were still marks on her leg. Oh my God.

I would be freaked out by that. Coming to Marla.

She's like, what touched me?

To this day, she's still like, I don't even want to talk about it. She's so freaked by it.

Because you're like, what was the purpose of that? Why did that happen to come back later?

And it's like, depending on how you look at it, is it crosses? Is it X's? Depending on the angle you look at it. So anyway, then a few days later, I came home from school, and we live way out in the country. You can see a neighbor's house, but it's way off, and seven and a half acres. And so there's nobody around. I come home, I come in through the back door like we always do through the laundry room, go plop down in the living room, probably to watch TV. We'll say do homework, whatever. And I hear the back door fly open. I'm like, oh, obviously, I didn't And close it tight. So I get up, go back to the laundry room, shut the door again, go sit back down, and I hear it fly open again and hit the side of the house. And I was like, that's weird. So there must be something wrong with the door. Go back in there, checking it out. So close it. No, it feels tight. Look around outside a little bit. Is there anything weird going on? No. Shut it. I'm not scared or thinking anything's weird yet.

I love that you're not scared yet. Immediately, I'd be crying. I know.

I'd be like, intrusion. Someone's in the house.

Exactly. So I go sit back down, and then it flew open again. And this time, I'm scared. And I got up, and I remember just locking my heart being out of my chest. And obviously, there's somebody here or somebody's doing that. So I walk into I walk out of the laundry room. There's nobody there. I go out onto the back porch. I look around. I can't see anybody. I close the door and I lock it really quick. And I'm pushing on it, and it's locked. It's closed. So I turn around and I start walking out of the laundry room. And when you walk out of the laundry room, to my right, it's just a long hallway all the way down to my parents bedroom at the end. And as I'm walking out, I see my great grandfather standing there at the end of the hall. And then, of course, I turn and look, and it's gone. But I definitely recognized him and saw what I saw. And after that, I was tormented for, I want to say it was probably two years, maybe even a little bit more of nightmares, feeling like I was being watched, weird things happening, just all kinds of stuff.

So I think whatever it was came from the Ouija board, and I don't think it was my grandfather at all. I think he just came disguised as him.

I was going to say, that's what I thought, too.

A trickster.

Is that what Rachel Stabler tells it?

A trickster. Yeah, totally. And my family are not into the paranormal, didn't know anything about all of this stuff, and are just tripping out, and they didn't know what to do. So half of my family thought, I need speak to our pastor at our church, and the other half of the family thought, I need a psychiatrist. Oh, God. So we did both.

You're like, You might as well cover both sides.

Yeah. And I don't think either one of them necessarily helped, except each had a good advice for me. The pastor, I feel like, did not believe me at all, but he did tell me to keep a diary of everything. So I started doing that, and I think that's a great idea for anybody who's having experiences, because I wish I could find that diary now, and we can't.

That would be so fun to look back on.

But it would be amazing to go back and read what I was experiencing.

Especially with your podcast now. Oh my God.

You could sit there and read that. Oh, my God, you could do an entire series just reading that.

I think so, too. Oh, we got to find it.

I know. Let's manifest that it shows itself somewhere.

Yes, let's do that. And then the psychiatrist told me that I should go to his grave and ask him to make it stop. And when I told her that I didn't think it was him, she said, It doesn't matter because he might be able to do something from the other side.

Wow. It's like she believed you and actually gave you honest advice.

Or at least gave you real... And that was like, I can't believe how next level you were at that point to be like, That is not my grandfather. Yeah. Because a lot of kids might be like, Oh, it's grandpa.

No, because it was nothing warm and fuzzy. It wasn't like a guardian angel. It was scary.

It tells you that the energy was clearly really palpable for you to be able to be like, No.

Definitely. So I did go to his gravesite, and I did ask him to make it stop, and it did eventually stop.

Did it take a while?

It took a while.

Yeah. Maybe he did what he could. I bet he I bet he was like, oh.

What a scary first experience. And I love that you still dabbled after that. You're like, no, it's fine.

Well, for me, it just intrigued me more. I was more hell-bent on experiencing this again, proving to myself that it was real because Because when you're seeing a psychiatrist about it and the pastor doesn't believe you and your family is just like, we don't know anything about any of that stuff, nor do we want to. You're like, wait, so am I crazy then? Does that not see that? Am I just making this up? And that's when you start... I really started thinking, did I just make that up for some reason?

Yeah. Because your logical brain is trying to convince itself. Yeah.

Because you're, no way. Your brain is like, that can't happen. Yeah.

And it gets worse as you get older. I feel like when you're a kid, you're more like, you're able to combat that part of your brain and be like, no, I saw that. Because you're more open. Yeah. But as you become an adult, it's so much easier to be like, no, I didn't see that. No, that was fake. I was just tired. I'm just seeing things because I'm tired. That's it.

I used to see so much more when I was younger, and now I don't really see anything. I feel things for sure, but I haven't seen anything since... I don't know. Maybe the lady who didn't have a body, she was just made of bones.

She didn't have a body, she was just made of bones.

She was just made of bones.

She was a theme song.

She was one of our earliest episodes.

Ash literally in one of her old apartments when you were how old?

I was in kindergarten, so I was five or six.

Yeah. She saw a woman. Sounds like the scariest thing you could ever see.

Yeah. She used to just sit outside. My mom and I, it was like a loft apartment. So there was a downstairs and then upstairs was just a really big bedroom. And there was a big closet. And then my mom's bed was here and my bed was over there. But I never slept in my own bed when I was little. So I would sleep in my mom's bed. And I woke up one night and this woman was sitting there in front of me, just bones. And she had a face. Her face wasn't a skeleton, but her body was. And she was just haggered and had this... I think I described it as cotton candy hair last time we talked about it. Which horrified me. I think she did used to say things to me, but I don't remember what she said.

Yeah, I think I remember you said... Because she brought this up when it happened. I was a creepy kid. So I remember she was little telling me this, and I was like, That is a nightmare. That's awful. I don't know what to tell you about that.

But it happened over and over and over again.

Yeah, it was always the same thing.

And I drive by that apartment sometimes because it's local to where we are, and I still get weird fucking vibes from that place.

Yeah, She seemed like she was up to something. She was scary.

I don't like that. Well, that just reminded me... So I say that that Ouija board experience was my first paranormal experience, but I feel like it might not have been my first one. I think back to my grandma's house, And we used to go up in the guest bedroom when we'd have family gatherings, all us girls. We had so many cousins that were all around the same age. And we'd go upstairs and we'd play games or we'd just talk about everything or whatever we were doing up there. And I remember the door. And we used to have a creepy feeling up there. It was definitely haunted. That house is definitely haunted, I don't know for a fact. But I would be like, If there's somebody here with us, open the door. And it wasn't totally closed. It was like, slurptive open, but we would watch it slowly start to open.

Oh, wow. So see, that was probably the first one.

Yeah, but I never thought about that really as so paranormal. I thought about it as more... I loved it because I was scaring the crap out of all my cousins.

And you had some Matilda power over the door.

You would help from the other side.

Yeah, exactly.

But that's what it is. It's like little kids are just like, it's not what we see it as. It's wild to see how little kids handle things. And they just accept it. They do. My youngest had a skeleton that she said was in her room. She called him Skeleton. Skeleton. She had this little accent with it when she would say it. She'd be like, I saw Skeleton last night. And we were like, Skeleton?

What is that? And she said it. It almost sounded like French.

Yeah, it almost had this... And she would say... She would do this accent when she would do it. And I was like, Skeleton? I was like, Was it a skeleton? Is that what you're saying? She was like, Yeah, but he's Skeleton. And I was like, Okay. And I was like, Is he nice or is he mean? Does he scare you? And she was like, No, he doesn't scare me. And I was like, Okay. And I asked her. I remember asking her, I was like, Where is he? And she was in my room and he sits on my bookshelf and just looks at me. And I was like, Okay. And I was like, What does he do? And she goes, He does this. And just leaned out, just this little pose. And I was like, Okay, you're not scared? And she was like, No. And I was like, All right.

I feel like the fact that she wasn't scared of him means... I feel like we know Skelton.

You know what I mean? Or Skelton was just a nice guy because she said he'll leave sometimes and come back. And I was like, Do you know where he goes? Because I'm like, Tell me everything, girl. What's his lour? Tell me. And she was like, Well, he leaves to go see his family. And then he comes back. That's fascinating. And I was like, Nice of him to see his family. That's very nice. And I was like, Cool. And then one day she said he went to see his family and he didn't come back. And he's never been back. I was like, Well, that's nice. What a nice ending to Skeltome that he just went to see his family and stayed there.

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Yeah, she had another one after that.

Named The Mister. Just in and of itself, how scary is that?

Yeah, that's the name of a horror movie.

I literally want to write a scary book about The Mister.

Yeah, you should. Honestly.

I'm like, TM.

I'm taking it.

But yeah, she used to bring up The Mister, and she brought it up to my husband once. They were playing Hide and Seek, and I think they were hiding under a blanket together from my other kids. And then my youngest was like, Oh, this is where I hide from the Mister. And he was like, I'm sorry, what? And she was like, The Mister. And she said, he doesn't have eyes.

She said he doesn't have eyes. And then John was like, well, then how is he going to find us?

And she goes, The Mister always finds you. And I was like, isn't that a scary- I got like a chill. I got you even saying it. And didn't she laugh? She did. She laughed. She thought it was... She was like, oh, he always finds you.

And John was like, moving on. And he was like, I don't want to play anymore. Let's go downstairs. And it's funny because I was saying earlier, I feel things. And that area of your house, it feels off to me.

Yeah, you always say there's some vibe down there.

Yeah, it's in the... It's one of the guest rooms, and I've slept in there before. And I have to watch my laptop, watch TV on my laptop until I fall asleep. I can't just close my eyes and go to sleep in that room.

It's weird because even we're going to be talking about some creepy paranormal games at some point. And I was looking some up last night, looking at more of them. And I started to fall asleep a little on the couch downstairs. And speaking of seeing things out of the corner of your eye, I see things out of the corner of my eye a lot. But when I look, it's nothing's there. So I'm always like, am I just I'm doing the adult thing I just imagined it. I'm just tired. And I was falling asleep after researching all these games. So I was a little on edge already. And out of the corner of my eye in my hallway, something ran by the hallway. Really? To the point where I sat up and was like, oh, one of the kids is downstairs. Oh, shit. And I got up and literally went into the hallway. Nothing was in there. I went up to the girls room, checked on all of them. They're all fast asleep. And I was like, I swear I saw something run by my hallway.

There's vibes in here. I saw a double of Olaina once in here.

That doppelganger. Yes.

And you did, too. And Mikey also saw one.

I don't know why it's me.

I think it's because your energy is so satiated in here, but it was freaky.

The doppelganger thing is so weird to me. It freaks me out. I haven't experienced that yet, but I've heard so many stories about that.

It's so weird. It's very unsettling.

I had never experienced it before. I walked in here- She was pale. After I saw it, and I was literally pale. And I was like, shaky, You walked in and I was sitting right here and she walked back in from the bathroom.

Well, that's what threw me off. You were sitting right here. Yeah, I was sitting right here. And I looked over and I was like, Are you okay? Are you sick? Because she had just come from the bathroom and she was literally like, Sheet white. And I was like, Oh, no. Are you sick?

And you were like- Did she just barf?

You were like, Have you been sitting there the whole time? And I was like, Yeah, I'm just sitting here.

I was like, You didn't just walk by the bathroom? She's like, No. And I was like, Oh, yeah. And you're not wearing a white sweatshirt like I saw you in. And it was just like a flash. It was super fast. But it was you because your hair is so stand-out. I knew it was you. It was scary.

Yeah, those are interesting.

I don't know what they're all about. I don't know.

I'm good.

But just to back up for a second, the skeleton. Skeleton. And your skeleton. I think that that's so interesting that you guys both had a skeleton thing because I feel like that's very rare. I don't hear. I know. I've heard so many stories on my podcast and stuff that I feel like I haven't heard. Like, skeleton. I haven't heard that before. A skeleton.

Why did I never put those two us together.

And my youngest said her skeleton, too. I was like, oh, that makes me think it's old because she said... I was like, so he's like this white bones. And she was like, no, they're brown. And she specifically said they're brown.

That's so much more authentic, too.

And that's why I was like, oh.

I was like, that's from the Earth, being buried. And for her to come up with...

She was like three or four. Yeah, she wouldn't have known.

At that point, she had no idea. No, because the only skeleton that she would have seen is a big toy one, which is a pure white.

The classic skeleton. And she was adamant. He has brown bones.

Bones. And I was like, whoa. That is weird. I don't know why I never made that correlation.

Yours seemed scarier.

Mine was threatening. Yeah, they definitely seem different, but it's interesting that they're both skeleton.

Yeah, how they present. It is interesting.

We need to do some research into that. I know.

We need to look into that more. We need to figure that out.

Yeah, I guess so.

Yeah.

Well, and turning, like keeping obviously, paranormal, but turning a little bit, is there somewhere that you haven't investigated yet that you are just like, it's on your list that you I have to get to.

Girl, my bucket list is so long. I love it. I mean, there's so many places. And then every time I hear about a new one, I'm like, oh, that's going to go to number one.

We got to shift this around.

Yeah. They're always everywhere. I want to go anywhere that's haunted.

Honestly, me too.

I mean, Waverly is high on my list.

Oh, it's so high.

I want to go so bad.

I'm dying to go to Waverly.

That would be so fun. I've had them on my podcast. They gave me a virtual tour, like literally walking through with their phone. Wow. That was amazing. But I need to go there. And I want to see the creeper.

Oh, my God. Yes. That's what I'm dying.

I'll freak out. That's scary to me. That's way more scary than seeing a full body apparition or something. The creeper is freaky. Absolutely.

I hate that. Just the name the creeper.

I can't. Yeah. And I've been virtually in the body shoot.

Oh my God.

With the tour that they gave me. Oh my God. But I want to go. I want to go really bad. I do, too.

That place has to have dark energy.

Oh my God. Definitely. You must have to wade through the energy in there. I think so. You have to like, Bushwack your way through. Yeah.

What other places?

There's so many. I really want to go to the Crescent Hotel. Me, too.

I don't know if I've heard of the Crescent Hotel. They follow Morpheus. Oh, shit. They're always saying like, Please come. And I'm like, Girls, I want to come.

Where is the Crescent Hotel? Arkansas. Arkansas. That's not that far. Yeah, let's go. I don't even know how far it is, to be honest.

I follow them on TikTok, and I'm obsessed with watching their- I follow them on Instagram.

They're more. I'm like, Someday I'm going. We got to go.

Out of the list, yeah.

We got to go to that one. Have you been to Lizzie Borden? Yes.

But I didn't spend the night. I've done the tour twice.

We spent the night twice. Yeah.

And it's the energy in there is Definitely palpable. Yeah. There's something in there. We felt it for sure. We actually went with two girls, one ghost, both times.

I'm like, If you guys are going to go again, I'll go. You want to come with us?

We will absolutely go again. That's one place that when you So the first time we were there, we were there with other people in the house. We didn't have the house to ourselves.

We got to rent the whole house.

That's what we did the second time. We rented the house the second time. That's when we went with Corinne and Sabrina. And we just stayed up all night walking around by ourselves.

It was so scary.

And It was... None of us would go to the bathroom by ourselves. We were like, you have to stand outside the door. We were sitting in the kitchen at one point, like the dining room area. And we were reading from the guest book where people write their experiences. And Corinne was reading them out loud. And some of them were like, The Ghost was pissed at me because I had done this. No, Sabrina was. Was it Sabrina who was reading?

Yeah, because then you and Corinne.

Yeah, because that's what happened. So she's reading it out loud. And from upstairs, and we have video of it. I need to find it because you can hear the audio. A woman's voice says something from upstairs.

Didn't she say, Is someone down there?

She said, hello, or she said, Are you there? Something like that. And it was a woman's voice so clear. And I was videoing her reading those. And you can see Corinne and all of our heads went like this because you could hear it, clear as day. That's so cool. And we went through there. No one was there, but it was the clearest voice. And you can hear it on that camera. It's scary. We had little kids talking to us through the little thing.

Like that ghost. What was that ghost, too? What was that ghost, too?

What were you play with me? And are you friends?

And they said, Don't leave. And are you friends? They didn't want us to leave.

So that's probably coming from the house next door because you know that he's in the house next door. Yeah.

And they say that the kids like to play in that top.

That attic area.

We were in that area.

So the first time that it was just me and Elaina that went together with other people there, our room was up there that we were supposed to sleep in. We weren't staying in. I was like, I'm not staying in that room. Absolutely not.

She wouldn't go to sleep. It's the attic one that belongs to the maid? Yes. Oh, yeah.

No freaking way.

She was like, We're staying up all night. So we sat on the Andrew couch in the living room.

And that was better than sleeping.

All night. Every time I would conk out, she'd be like, No.

I hit her. Because I feel like if you're sleeping in places like that, the energy energy can get to you easier and seep in.

I mean, you're vulnerable.

Yes. Have you had that happen? Yeah. So the Myrtle's Plantation. I wanted to go there for so long. Another one? Yeah. St. Francisville, Louisiana. I had read all the books about it, seen little, I don't know, travel channel, documentary things on it. I'm like, I want to go here so bad. Finally, oh, gosh, it was probably seven years ago now, we went for my birthday. We were going to New Orleans, and I was like, We have to just rent a car and go for the day or spend the night one night right there. And my husband, he's not... Well, he's more of a believer now because I've dragged him to so many places that he's had things happen now. You're like, How can you argue this at this point?

You have no choice.

Yeah. At that time, he was a good sport, but not... He was very, very skeptical. And so I bring all my ghost hunting stuff, and we're staying in the room. Have you guys ever been there? No. You covered it. No.

You covered it. We covered it on the- I want to go. And it's on my list.

So there's one room when you rent it, you You get this huge room, plus you get this whole sitting area upstairs. The stairs are yours, and the whole entryway is yours. Those creepy stairs and the creepy mirror that's supposedly haunted, all of that is yours. And nobody else can come into that part of the house.

That's really cool.

We got to do this. So we rented that room. And so we're downstairs, and I have my kid out, and he's got the K2 meter over by the mirror. He's being a good sport and everything. And I'm sitting on the 17th step because a man was shot and died on the 17th step. So I'm sitting on the 17th step, and I have my voice recorder and another K2 meter, and I'm asking questions, and nothing is happening. You know how the K2 meter usually blips a little bit, like green to darker green? It was just doing nothing.

Which is shocking in and of itself.

Yeah, because usually it teeters. It does something.

So I was like, are my battery's dead? Are the things even on? We did that for an hour and a half, and finally I was like, I guess nothing's going to happen. So we'll just go to bed. Totally disappointed. Yeah, bummed. Yeah. Bummed. Yeah. Go to bed. And they don't have TVs. I love watching TV at night to go to bed. Me too. I have in the same way. So I was like, I'm just sitting there and I'm listening to that. The silence is so loud. No, it was loud outside because there were frogs, chirping in the pause.

Really loud. And that's such a creepy sound.

That can be unsettling.

I was just listening to them, though, and just trying to go to sleep listening to that. And then all of a sudden, they just stopped. Peer silence. And I felt like the room got super heavy. And all of a sudden, we could hear kids running around, and we heard like, boom, boom, boom, boom, open the door, nothing. We could hear furniture moving above us. We were on the top floor. And it was so insane that, like you said about the bathroom, I had to go pee so bad that I was too scared to go to the bathroom. And it was three something in the morning. Of course. The whole time we were holding on to each other, and he's like, Did you hear that? I'm like, Yeah. And then I'd hear something. Did you just hear that? He's like, Yeah, I heard it. We were just holding on to each other freaking out. It's scary. And my voice recorder... Well, I didn't know it was my voice recorder. All of a sudden, we heard an electronic noise, and we both sat straight up. And my K2 meter, he had left it sitting on the night stand next to us, and it was lit up all the way to red, and it kept turning off and going red.

Turning off, going to red. Just freaking out. And he's like, your K2 meter is making noise. Well, it doesn't make noise. So you're like, No, it's not that. So then later the next morning, I realized that what happened is my voice recorder was laying on the floor over by my suitcase, and that had turned on, but it didn't record anything. I was so bummed. But it made that noise.

The fact that it turned on, though.

Yeah. It was like, We're ready now. Yeah, let's go.

And this happened. This went on till four or something, and then all of a sudden, it was just over. You could feel the whole room lighten up. All of a sudden, it didn't feel scary anymore. Wow. The whole energy changed. That is terrifying. And I was like, I still have to pee, and you still have to come with me, though.

You're like, I'm still feeling it.

Something about having to pee in those situations that you're like, no.

It's those situations where you always have to pee the most, too. You're like, I really have to go. Oh, all four of us would just walk over to the bathroom and just huddle outside the bathroom for each other because we were like, no. Even the bathroom is spooky. It is.

Yeah.

And it wasn't close. The room was here, then you had to go down this little creepy hall that was all dark, and then into the bathroom.

With all that happening, no. Yeah.

There was no way I was going to go to the bathroom by myself.

No. And especially when a skeptic, a healthy skeptic, is hearing these things and see it's like- And they're scared.

Oh, he was like, I can't deny after that. There's definitely something. And he got his hair pulled at the Stanley Hotel, too. So he's like, okay, that's what happens.

He's like, okay. The Stanley Hotel is so creepy. You need to go so badly. I know.

That's another one I got to hit.

I went once and we just went to bop around. We didn't book the tour or anything. And even just the energy in there is weird and dark.

You can always feel. Yeah. You can always feel.

Yeah, you would love it.

What's on your guys' list?

Honestly, Waverly Yeah. Is a huge one in Myrtles. And I want to hit the Whaley House, too. The Whaley House is one I really want to hit.

Are you talking about the John Proctor house? Oh, yeah.

I think we're going to try to hit that soon, actually. Oh, they're really nice there, too.

And they're encouraging of all the parental stuff. Oh, that's awesome. So Oh, that's cool.

That's great. Yeah, because I think we actually are trying to book it right now with them. Trying to figure that out. Oh, yeah. We just did the S. K. Pierce mansion in- It's in Gartner? Gartner, yeah. It's in Gartner. Massachusetts?

Yeah. Oh, okay.

That's a wild one. Oh, yeah? Yeah. We did the case on the podcast, but there's a lot of stuff that happened in that house.

And it's huge. It's a literal mansion. So there's the basement, the main floor, and there's an upstairs and then another upstairs. It's not even... Yeah, it's not even really like an attic. It's just like a second upstairs. And there's one room. I forgot what they called it. It was the room where all the guys would go and play games and stuff and women weren't allowed.

Like the billiards room or something.

Something like that. And the energy.

They call it the... Yeah, they call it the R-Room.

Oh, yes. Trigger warning. Yeah. Somebody may have been raped in that room, so they call it the rape room. And it's got that like, dark, dark energy.

It's a very aggressive vibe in that room. Walking in there, you're like, oh.

And there's a closet that they said, I think somebody was killed in the closet or something like that.

Or assaulted in some awful way.

I forget who went in the closet. It might have been Payne because- I think it was. I think it was. I think it was. Boyfriend pain was with us. And he walked in and he heard something as soon as he walked in there and literally just bopped right out. He was like, No, I'm out. And there was this weird... That's where that flash of light started. There would be this weird... It was like a rectangular beam of light that had dots of light, almost. And that's where it first appeared in that room.

It kept showing up on the camera. Yeah. But it would show up in different spots.

And it would be over people sometimes or next to people other times.

See, another thing I have to add to my list now. Yeah. That's the place I didn't even know about. You would love that one.

You would love it. We won't tell you too much more. You got to experience it on your own. It's got a lot to explore.

Have you guys been to Velasca or anything like that?

That's another one on my bucket list. Actually, that's a very recent one that I know.

I'm so on the fence about going there. Why? I teeter back and forth between, do I want to go and do that or do I not want to go? Because I just feel like the energy there is like- Oh, it must be the heaviest. Crazy dark. Oh, it must be the heaviest.

That one, I just need to see the house. Because that's another one we've covered. And I went deep into that one. I got sucked into that case because it's just so horrific.

And unsolved. When it's unsolved like that, it drives me crazy. Me too. No, I need to know who did this. Yes. Like, who would do this? That's the thing. And why? That's the thing.

There was no seeming... Like, there was no... Not that there's ever reason to murder, but like, some people come up with reason. Yeah. And there was no real motive.

You had a good theory, though. It was like, somebody... Wasn't there somebody on a train or something?

There's a railroad theory that there was a lot of ax murders that happened on the railway. On that route. Yeah. That was one of them. But even that, it's like...

It's not the strongest theory.

The children and everything. And it just like the way- And covering their faces and everything. The The brutality of that one. Yeah. I mean, and it's just like, that house must be wild to see because there's still evidence of what happened in that house. Like, there's, it's awful, but where he raised the ax and it hit the ceiling. Like, there's still the marks in the ceiling, which would just be- I think that's part of it, too.

I think that's part of it, too.

Bunkers to see. And it would just be very interesting. I don't know if I could spend a night in there.

I don't think I could spend the night. You could get me to go, but I don't think I could spend a night there.

I think maybe I I could Lizzie board in it and just stay up all night.

I'm always down to Lizzie board in it. I'm never sleeping at any of our locations that we go to.

I feel like the staying overnight increases your chances of experiencing something. It's true.

No, that is true. The further you go into the night, the more it happens.

Well, because the veil gets thinner and thinner the closer to three that you get.

Not only that, but I feel like whatever's there gets used to your energy a little bit. It starts testing.

It gets a little more comfy. It gets a little more boundaries and everything. I feel that way, too.

Well, that was when we went to the Lizzie Borden house. We didn't really experience anything crazy for probably two hours. And then it got later and later and we started experiencing more. And then it died down a little bit, probably at four-ish. We were like, All right, we're going to head out. And we said we were going to head out and started packing up. And it was like you said with your story, this energy just lifted from the room. And it almost even felt like it got brighter in there.

I think it did.

It definitely did.

The lights kept doing these weird things where it would dim and then it would turn off and then it would pop back on again. And we were asking I'm like, do you have motion detectors or something? We were testing it being like, okay, let's stay out here and see if it turns off without motion. None of it worked. None of it made sense. And then we'd just be sitting there and it would just dim off and then flick back on again. And we were all like, what the fuck is going on?

Yeah, it was weird. But when we were leaving, it was like they were guiding us out of there.

It was crazy. They turned on, they were like, lights on, get out.

. And don't come back. They were like, have we scared you sufficiently?

Did you guys experience the cat ghost there?

No. And I wanted to. No, they told us about the cat ghost. Yeah, you were hoping to.

I think Sabrina might have. Sabrina from Two Girls. Oh, yeah. I think she might have. And I also... Oh, wait.

I saw it. Now that I'm thinking about it, remember? You saw it?

No.

I couldn't remember if I'd seen what I had seen. I saw a cat walk across. Oh, shit. Now I'm remembering it. I don't know why I didn't remember that at first. We were in Abby's room. Oh, yeah. The stepmother. And we were standing there listening to... Because we had a tour guide come in and give us a quick tour first, and then they left. Shout out to Amber. And Amber, our awesome tour guide, was giving us this whole spiel about it. And I was just looking around the room and out of the corner of my eye, in the doorway, I saw a cat walk around the doorway. And I remember being like, what was that? And I was like, what? And later she told us there's a ghost cat. And I was like, that was the cat.

Because I think you thought it was a kid or something at first.

Because I also saw a kid at some other juncture. You saw a lot when we went to Lizzie Borden's house. Yeah, and it was always out of the corner of my eye. And I would look I'm going to be like, Am I just on edge here? And that's why I'm seeing these things. That's how it works. But it felt too real.

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Yeah. I'll start, and then We need to... We'll start with these two games, and then we have a game that we can... We're not going to raise anything paranormal. We have a funny, Would You Rather? Paranormal game to play. Yeah, Spooky Edition.

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I'm going to start with this little one. It's a very short one, but I thought it was too Too fun and too scary to not mention. It's called the Devilface Game. And so this is a little like Bloody Mary, where you need twelve black candles. Okay. Everyone's got those lying around. I actually do. But I don't know if everyone else does.

I have an abundance of taper candles.

Yeah, I have too many taper candles. All in black?

All different colors. I have black, white, and red, I think.

You can do so many rituals right now. Exactly. Got it covered. But you need the twelve black candles. You need a timekeeping device that will alert you to a certain time. We'll have an alarm on it.

So just your phone.

And you need a bathroom. I got that. I have that as well. And you need a mirror in that bathroom. Okay. So just before midnight, you're going to lock yourself in that pitch black bathroom, which I'm already out. I was going to say that I'm not. Not happening. And you're going to light all twelve of those black candles. So you're going to have ambiance, some ambient lighting in there.

Be careful. Don't bump into them.

Yeah, it's a fire hazard. So everybody be careful when you do this. Yes. Stand in in front of that mirror, close your eyes. And this is where that time keeping device is important because you're going to set it so that it tells you as soon as midnight strikes. And as soon as midnight strikes, you're going to open your eyes and in front of you in the mirror is going to be the face of the true devil staring back at you. What happens after that? The world may never know. No one knows. I don't know if you just blow out the candles and get the hell out of there and just be like, cool, I've seen the devil. The devil has seen me. And live with that information. But I'm not going to be doing this.

What if this one is just a practical joke and you open your eyes and you see yourself and it's just somebody trying to get you?

That's what I'm staring back at you.

But you're going to see a warped version of yourself because your eyes aren't going to be adjusted and you're going to have all the candle flickering light. So it's going to look like a weird version of yourself. That's going to freak you out. And you're going to be like, I am the devil.

It's me. It's going to give you a complex. It sure is.

For sure. It reminds me of Bloody Mary because did you do Bloody Mary when you were little?

I've done it. Yes. I always get so scared.

That one's scary.

It is scary.

Because it was never clear what happened. What was supposed to happen. There was all these different versions. Like, is she going to scratch you? Is she going to kill you? Is she going to grab you and bring you in the mirror? Or is she just going to scare the shit out of you? None of them sounded good to me.

You did it, though, right? We did do it. Yeah. Nothing ever really happened. But it does distort what you see in the mirror by doing all the things, like the pitch black and all that stuff.

And you're so focused, too. You always end up seeing something weird because your eyes do distort the reflection in the mirror.

Well, and then there's scrying, too. So you're doing this whole scrying thing while you're sitting there doing that. So you never know what you're pulling up.

So you're like, what did I pull up?

Yeah. Yeah, that's freaky.

It's scary.

I think I was in second grade the first time I did Bloody Mary, and I got in so much trouble. My mom was like, no, don't be doing that. No Bloody Mary. Because I ended up screaming because I went through with everything and then nothing happened. But I was so scared that I was screaming. My mom's like, what are you doing?

Well, and it's a rough game to play because they don't tell you... You should be closing these things after you open them properly. And it's like with Bloody Mary, you're just like, oh, where that is. All right, see you later. And it's like, what am I doing here?

She's following me around now.

I know. That's what probably happened when you were twelve with the Ouija board because you probably didn't know how to properly close or close that.

No, it definitely didn't close anything.

And I feel like that's when shit goes awra. When it can't be closed. Definitely. Everywhere we always leave, we're like, Don't follow us. Stay We always do this whole thing.

We do a dance. We shake everything off of us. Yeah, we always shake it out.

Oh, that's nice. Yeah. We always shake it all off. We have to. So that is the devil face game. But the next one is a little longer, has some more steps to it. And this one scares the shit out of me. Oh, no. I will not be doing this one. All right. So this one is referred to, if you go, there's a really good website, and she also has a very good book. It's The Ghost in My Machine is the website.

Oh, that's where I got my game from.

Yeah. And we talked about her in our last week. We did episodes about scary Games, and we talked about her a lot, Lucia. And she has an amazing book. We'll link it in the show notes. Go buy it because it's so interesting. But she was the one that I found this out from her website. She refers to it as the Bath Game. So this is a Japanese game originally, or originates from Japan. It can also be called the Daruma san game. And I'm so sorry if I'm pronouncing that like a shitty American. I apologize. But it's essentially high stakes tag with a really with an angry ghost.

Oh, I don't run, so no. Yeah. No. I'm out immediately.

It can also be looked at as deadly, possibly deadly red light, green light with an angry ghost. Oh, God.

That sounds like a nightmare.

So here's how you play, you're going to fill a bathtub with water. You're going to take a bath.

Oh, no.

You're going to get naked. You're going to get that bath. You're not naked. You're going to take a bath. Have yourself a tub.

Do your thing. You're going to get in a relaxed state. You're going to get in a relaxed state.

I like it so far.

You know, relaxation Can do it all. But you got to turn off all the lights. No candle light, nothing. Pitch black, you have to sit in that.

That'd be weird. No, I would not be able to relax like that.

Me neither. Door's got to be shut. So you're sitting in the pitch black naked in a tub. And according to Ghost in My Machine, you should sit so that you are facing the faucet and the little handles. I do want to sit that way. And now you're going to close your eyes.

It would be very uncomfortable to sit the other way.

I was going to say, I feel like you should sit that way. I don't know your life. I don't know if people like that feeling of that thing in their I don't know. And if you do more power. Yeah. But this way, sit the comfortable way.

It's important.

Yeah, not for this one. You're going to close your eyes, and now you're going to start washing your hair. In the bath? With your eyes closed. So eyes closed, start so wrong. Up that hair. Start going.

Then you're just sitting in your own hair filth.

You sure are. But that's the least of your worries at this point. And as you do this, you are going to be repeating out loud, Daruma san fell down over and over and over while you wash your hair. You're going to do this like the ritual is happening as you're saying this and as you're washing your hair. You're not going to stop saying that until you are done washing your hair. And as it's happening, you're going to get an image in your mind of a Japanese woman standing in a tub.

Okay.

You will watch behind your own eyes as she slips and falls, and she will impale her right eye on a rusty faucet.

What the fuck?

And you're going to watch all this. That's crazy. Yeah. As you're taking a tubby, you're going to be watching all this.

Impaling your eye with a faucet. Like, think about how big a faucet is. A rusty faucet. Get your tetanus shot.

Tetanus. Yeah. So that's even worse. So, I, you're out of there. The eye is gone. And the faucet has that eye now. You might actually hear things in the bathroom as this is happening, but you cannot open your eyes.

Okay, so this is all just a mental video.

You are all seeing your mind and you will hear things in the bathroom. You may even feel movement in the tub with you. No. But you are not to open your eyes.

My whole legs just got a weird shiver in them.

Mine did, too.

Mine did, too.

I don't like it. I I like it.

I'd be out. I am out. I'll be out way before then. As soon as you turned out the lights and I'm sitting in the tub, I'd be like, No, I'm not playing.

I feel like even after hearing this story sitting in the tub is going to be less relaxing for me.

No closing those eyes on the tub.

I've always had, even when I was a kid, a fear of closing my eyes and washing my hair. Me too. Then something's going to be in the shower with me or something.

I'm still that way. I cannot do the whole just close your eyes and let it all suds down.

I'm like- That's insane.

Yeah, no, I got to keep my eyes open because the second I close them, something's going to appear.

Something's coming in the shower with me.

And I always rub the fog in the shower, too, if it's foggy. Oh, you're like, no, I got to see out.

I need to be able to see what's going on. Yeah, you're going to feel some movement in the tub, and that's a boundary I'm not ready to cross. Loathe. Can't open that eyes. And as your eyes are closed, as you're feeling the movement, hearing the things, you have to ask her out loud why she fell in the tub, which is rude, to be honest.

Because the tub is slippery.

That's self-explanatory. People fall for a myriad of ways. Maybe she doesn't know. Why are you asking her that?

My clumsy ass asking her. She'll be like, Fuck off.

I'm like, Everyone falls, girl. But apparently, whatever. There's a reason. She's not going to tell you that reason, but you have to ask it. Okay. So then once you have asked it, everything should chill out. Then you're going to stand up with your eyes still closed. Got to keep those eyes closed. You are going to leave the tub while your eyes are closed. So take your time. Make sure there's a mat down. You're not going to slip.

You have to be very slow, very methodical.

You're going to don't drain the tub. Keep the water in the tub. Leave through the bathroom door. Close the door behind you. I still closed. I still closed. Do not turn on any light. You are going to go to bed like a fucking maniac and just go to sleep.

And apparently naked because you can't see it.

And wet hair. Because you didn't dry it.

Going to sleep.

That sounds terrible.

You're going to wake up the next morning and you're going to go about your day right off the bat. But you are going to feel something the second you wake up. Second you wake up, you're going to feel something with you. Somebody's going to be following you. Somebody's going to be watching you. You're going to feel it the whole day. And what you're going to feel is the presence of this woman behind you all day. And when you look over your shoulder, you're going to get little snippets glimpses of her, and she's going to be terrifying. She's going to be missing that eye. She's got long, dark, really the ring hair, like that style. And she's going to be wet Like she's just been in the bathtub. Is she dripping onto you? No, because she can't get that close to you. That's the point of the game. Can't let her touch you.

Oh, that's where the tag comes in.

This is where tag comes in.

I forgot about the tag.

Good call. So you don't want to let her get too close because if she catches you, she's not letting you go. So you just got to keep moving. So you're going to see her. And once you get glimpses of her, you can't let her get too close. So you have to yell to her, tomade, which means stop in Japanese. Whenever you catch a glimpse If you're in a car, you have to yell tomade.

So do this on a day where you're not going to work. Otherwise, you are going to get in trouble.

There's going to be questions.

Hr will be contacting you afterwards.

You'll just be screaming random Japanese commands, and people are going to be like, Do you want to go home? Yeah.

Should you see someone? Yeah.

So the whole point is you have to stop her and keep her away from you by midnight. If she is still following you at midnight, you lose. And losing is bad. Because if you look over your right shoulder and you lock eyes with her, it's important to lock eyes with her. She needs to see you. You need to see her.

I was just going to say lock eye. I was literally going to say it.

I was just going to say your right eye, her left eye. That's That's where it needs to go. So if you see her, it's fine. You yell, Stop. But you need to lock eyes for this eye, for this one to happen. When you lock that eye, you need to yell, Kita, which means I cut you. And you need to make a chopping motion with your hand, and then she will disappear. If you lock eye and yell, Kita, and chop in the air, she should disappear. If you did it right. If you did it to altaplan, you win. What a life experience. You get to take with you forever. Good job.

You're crazy.

If you lose because she will try to hide from you, like when she sees that you are trying to lock eyes and say, quita, she will try to hide away.

The thought of this woman dodging me is horrifying.

If she manages to hide from you until midnight, you better skip the planet because it's not going to be good.

On to the next one, babe.

Midnight hits, you have now given her permission to come into your dreams. She can catch you. Now she's become Freddy Kruger. In that you can't do anything about that.

And she just lives in your dreams forever.

Then she'll somehow get you in your dreams.

She can kill you through them?

And you'll probably... You'll die. Fuck. Oh, and stay out of water. She's in dark places. If you go to the water in dark places, she can get you quicker. Yeah.

What?

Yeah.

She's nimble. Or just not play this game.

Don't play it. Or don't play.

I recommend- Yeah, there you go. The moral of the story. I recommend not playing this game.

Yeah, I also recommend. I second that recommendation.

It's very high stakes tag.

It is very high stakes. It's so weird that you picked that game because mine is a little bit taggy, too. Oh, yeah.

Well, that scares me. I'm one of those anxious people in tag where I'm like, Oh, God, just hit me. Okay. I hate it. I don't like being chased.

I'm like,. It's like us in the haunted house, Elaina and I always walk through this, and I'm like, We need to not do that because instinct makes you want to hit someone.

I'm just always in punch position. I'm going to hit you. Oh, no.

But yeah, I would do that, too. And then I hit the Looky-Looky girl. Or what was her name?

Daruna Son. I don't even want to say it.

I'm too scared. But I would hit her and then it'd be bad.

Daruma San. That is the name. And I guess, apparently, usually these figures, there's like Daruma San dolls that are good luck. Oh, they're good luck. But this is a whole different take on it.

Because you're entering her world. I guess the doll is just entering your world.

You're summoning her.

Yeah. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don, don, don, don, read something like this and you picture the steps of the game, do you picture it happening in your own environment?

Yes, I just pictured it in my bathroom.

I just pictured it in my bathroom and then dodging her in my kitchen. Yeah.

You know what? I didn't for some reason. I pictured it in some random bathroom that I've never been in. Oh, that's funny. That's funny.

Yeah. You guys got to tell us, listeners, what did you picture? Yeah. I'm interested to see how people process stories like that. Yeah.

But then I never take a bath in that particular bathroom.

Yeah, I pictured the bathroom where I take a bath.

Because I'm a shower girl.

I'm both. If I do a bath, then I shower you're after. You got to. Or else you're just in your own soup. There you go. But that's a story for another day.

That's another scary story.

Yeah, exactly. So I have the Looky-Looky game. Hated already. Which is also known as the Look Seaman game. It's very scary. So this game is when you have to play alone, which already makes it very terrifying. And to play, you need one candle, matches or a lighter, a white paint, and a tool to apply that white paint. I got all that. Something to keep time, like your phone or stopwatch, like an alarm, like you were saying. An indoor location where you can play, and somewhere inside of that location needs to have a room with no windows where you can shut a door behind you. So you're not going to start until it's dark out. We need to do this at dusk. And once it's dark out, you're going to walk around wherever you're playing, and you're going to count every single window within that space. And you need to be super, super careful not to miss any windows. I would suck at this because I miss count things all the time.

I'd just be too much pressure. Yeah, I'd be too scared.

So once you're confident that you've counted correctly, you're then going to walk around and use your white paint to draw an eye onto every single window. Like an eyeball. Not in my house. Yeah, no. Don't you draw an eye on my window. And you need to do it on every single window. It needs to be a large eye. You want to double check? Make sure you don't miss a window because if you miss a window, you automatically lose the game.

I need you to quickly picture getting up to get a midnight snack or something and you just look out your window and you see your neighbor just drawing eyes. Oh my God, you're like, I knew they're playing the looky-look game.

Oh my God. Now you'll know. They're summoning a demon. That's so fun.

That's crazy.

I think I'm going to go somewhere else tonight. Wow.

I wonder if they'll make it to the barbecue this weekend. Crazy.

The block party is going to be crazy. Good luck. Yeah. So like I said, if you miss a window, you automatically lose. And we'll talk about what happens if you lose at the end.

You know what I always do, too? I always go, But does that qualify as a window? Or is that Yes.

I always think you're like, Is that a door or a window?

Yeah, it's like those things where you're not a robot. Like, how many stoplights? I'm like, Well, there's a little square. Like, part of it in here. Does that care?

Is that what that is? I found this game on Ghost in My Machine, and it said, you know how windows will be split into panes? You don't have to do each pane, but you have to do each window.

Okay, so they get a little more specific.

They do. Yes. I'm glad you said that. Yeah.

I need to know those things.

I was thinking, too, even your garage windows, how they have the little ones. You got to get those, too. Oh, shit. Any window that you think is a window, count it, eyeball it. Too much work. Yeah, honestly, what a way to live to some of a demon like this. But once every window is adorned with that huge white eye, you're going to go around and shut every single light off in your playing space. You're going to grab your candles, your matches, and your lighter, whatever you're going to keep the time with, and you're going to head to the room where there's no windows. And you're going to walk into that room and close the door behind you and wait. And you're going to wait until the clock hits midnight. And then at that very minute, not any minute before, not one minute after, stroke of midnight, you have to light your candle. And you have to say out loud, Looky, looky, come and see. Looky, looky, you won't find me. And you have to say this aloud three times for it to work. And you have to make sure that candle's lit at exactly midnight.

Then you have to leave your windowless space and move throughout where you're playing continuously. You can't really stop for too long because now the looky-looky man is looking for you through the windows.

Fuck that.

Fuck that. If you think he might catch you, you can move somewhere to hide. But you can't stay in one spot too long because that's just asking to get caught. And all this time that you're moving throughout the house, you can't let your candle go out.

No. If it goes out, you lose. This reminds me of, is it the Midnight Man?

Yes. It's very similar.

Vibes? Mm-hmm. Not without the... There's no eyes in that one.

There's no eyes. There's in this. We're not even done with the eyes. More eyes. So after six hours or when the sun comes up, whichever happens first, you're finished and you can blow out your candle. And they say, the looky-looky... When he leaves the looky-looky man, you're going to know and you'll feel different. Some feeling will wash over you. That's because you've just won the game, and now you have the gift of seeing into the future.

Oh, shit. Well, at least this one has a real reward to it. Yeah, it.

Kind of. Not just bragging rights.

Nobody's sure If it lasts forever or how far into this future you see or if you see good future things. I know.

I was just going to say maybe you see negative things, not what it be.

Then you go, Coo-coo.

But at least you didn't die. But if you lose at any point, the Looky-Looky Man rips you out of your playing space, drags you back to his lair, rips your eyeballs out, eats them, and then leaves you there to die.

So the risk-reward is disproportionate here, I feel.

And then at the end, I just wrote, XO, XO, XO. Gossip girl. Xo, XO. Looky-looky Man.

Wow.

See, I have a fear of when I'm walking around, and I don't know how hot it gets here at night, but sometimes it's really hot in California at night. We leave the windows open, and I always feel like there's people, or not people, but somebody looking in or something. I always get that sensation of, Am I being watched right now? Is somebody peaking in the window?

And especially in the dark.

In the dark? When it's nighttime outside. Oh, to the daytime, no big deal. But at nighttime, because they can see in, but you can't see out.

And that's the worst. You just see your reflection. We have a slider door and we need to get curtains for it so badly because any time I look at the slider door at night, a I'm like, what if something's staring at me and I have no idea?

And you're just like, what if you're looking at it and you see your reflection, you see something behind you? I hate that.

I don't like that at all. No. That'd be absolutely terrible.

These games where it's like, shut all the lights off in your house and summon a demon and then try to outrun that demon for a few hours.

I'm like, who the fuck is doing that? You know what? You know who's doing that? And I was thinking about it when I was preparing this? Kids. Kids at sleepovers are doing this. And I'm going to scare the shit out of my kids because if my kids bring a demon into my house someday, I'm going to be so mad. I'll be guess, please. Because I've tried really hard not to bring any shit into my house. Even if we record at my house and we talk about something spooky, I follow Santo the shit out of that room whenever it leaves.

Kids will bring demons into your house.

If a Ouija board in my... I'm like, very anti Ouija board. Oh, you're anti Ouija board? Yeah. I won't play. It's just too much for me. If the day I see my kid bringing a Ouija board into the house- I loved Ouija boards. I'm heating that thing out the No.

See, I swore them off after my experience for a really long time. But then I was at this place one time, and they had a Ouija board sitting out, and I was like, Oh, do you play the Ouija board? And she's like, Oh, no, it's more out for decoration. I mean, sometimes we use it, but it's more decoration. And she's like, Why are you afraid of them? And I was like, Yeah, I had a thing, and I don't really deal with them at all. And she was like, It's no different than... Wait, you use the pendulum. You'll use the dousing rods, you'll use the voice recorder. You're communicating no matter what. What's the difference?

Sabrina literally just said that to me. Our friend Sabrina was here and I was using the pendulum. She's like, And you won't do a Ouija board?

She was like, it's the same thing.

It feels different. But it's not. But it is because there's not really steps to closing out the pendulum. I think there is.

I've never closed. I think you can close out a pendulum session.

I'm sure you can, but I feel like nobody ever stresses the importance of it. People really heavily stress the importance of closing out the Ouija board game, and I'm not good at steps. So I feel like I'm going to miss one, and I'll just fuck up my life.

I think you would love it if you did it.

It would blow your mind. Well, I went and bought one. Hell, yeah. I'm back in the Ouija board club. The problem with the Ouija board for me is that it's too slow. Really?

I know it is. I would rather- You need patience.

Yeah. Like, oh, my God, we have to sit here and spell out everything I'm asking?

I've never played one, ever.

That's the thing.

It's like your dying dream to get me to play Ouija board.

Because it's like the energy of a Ouija board. I was always pretty neutral on Ouija boards, but thinking about it when I used to do it when I was younger, I was like, Man, there's nothing like when that thing moves for the first time or spels something out that you're like, That's a word. Why did that spell that out?

I don't know why it creeps me out so much because I would do a seance Which really isn't different. Which is way worse than a Ouija board. It's probably worse. I don't know.

It's 100 % worse.

It's just a point system in my head. Ouija boards, no.

I feel like we'll get you at some point.

You probably will. I'm very easily pushed around.

Well, we can go stay at the Lizzie Board and house and play with the Ouija board.

Yes. They won't let you there. Oh, they won't? No. So crazy story.

Oh, actually, they had a crazy one.

So they... I forgot about this. You could. When we went the first time, I was like, anti it. And they had them. They had multiple Ouija boards there.

Yeah, they had multiple.

And the next time we went, Elaina and Sabrina wanted to do it, and me and Corinne were like, No, we're good. And they asked if they could do it, like the people that run there. And they said, No, we actually banned Ouija boards because somebody stole a Ouija board from when they did have a collection.

It was like an old Ouija board.

I think it was the oldest one they had. And then it was missing for months and months. And then one day, the Ouija board, somebody came to work and it was just sitting on the steps of the house with a note. What did the note say? Make it stop. The note said, Make it stop.

Oh, I just got chill.

I did, too. I got chill.

Yeah. So, ever since then, you can't do Ouija board.

They literally returned the Ouija board after sealing it.

And we went to the S. K. Pierce's mansion, too, and they won't let you do Ouija boards.

I also think that was just bad vibes. It's like you stole a Ouija board. Like, you steal it from a crime scene. You're fucked up, right? From a You're totally right. Don't steal one from a crime scene.

I forget what happened to SK that they won't let you. There was a story.

I think they... Yeah, I think that was just like...

They're just against it.

Oh, because they think there might be portals in that place. Oh, yeah. Or somebody created one, I think, with a Ouija board because they had banned them out right from the beginning. I think they just didn't want to deal with it, essentially.

I think that's the thing about Ouija boards.

Somebody did it against the rules, and they said they opened something up that they can't. They definitely won't.

That they can't close. I think that's the thing, too, is you always hear about portals associated with Ouija boards and opening up something that you can't close.

I think that's when it's not properly closed. I think it's when people fuck around. But that's my fear.

If I was doing a Ouija board with people, they would need to be very serious. Yeah. You know?

Very serious.

Very serious. Very serious situation. But that leads us into would you rather?

Because that's not summoning anything. Exactly. Except for funny That's good clean fun. Yeah.

So Bridget, would you rather spend the night alone at the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River or at the Whaley house in San Diego?

Alone.

Alone.

I would rather probably the Lizzie Borden house. Yeah.

What would you do if you had the whole house just to yourself?

I would probably just sit there and see if I could experience anything, just not even necessarily with equipment or anything. Just see what I feel, what I see, just what the What the emotion is, what the house is doing itself.

I feel like the Lizzie Borden house would be cool to experience alone. I might. I couldn't do it.

I couldn't do it by myself.

And the Lizzie Borden house is set up more as a bed and breakfast type thing. And the Whaley house is not. It's strictly a museum. So I feel like it would be way more comfortable to stay at the Whaley.

That's true.

You could lay down if you wanted to.

But logistically, the Whaley house is much closer for me. That's true.

But we're going to get you back for Lizzie Borden now. We're going to set this up.

Yeah, we should, It's like one of those things that I feel like I should have done.

I should have spent the night there by now.

It's such a different vibe.

Next time you come out, tell us and we'll set it up.

You rent that place out.

We'll rent it out. Okay. I've gone to her grave. I've checked out the house next door. I checked out the house that she moved to. Maplecroft. Yeah, Maplecroft. So I've been all around it and done everything except for actually spend the night.

Now it's rent the house out, get everybody out, just us in there. It's such a... And you just have such free reign to go around and invest in how you want.

And now they're familiar. They're familiar with us. I wonder if it would change the experience at all.

The smell is coming. Yeah, maybe. We had a lot of rempod action.

Lots of rempod action.

Where they would be going off like, insane. And it was always the touch one.

Same in the SK house, remember? Yeah.

We had a lot of- We had a lot of- That was crazy.

Holly and I put up the rempod at the Queen Mary. We were in a suite. So we were out in the living room part. We put the rempod in the bedroom area, and it would not stop going off. Yes. So creepy. Not stop. We had to just turn it We couldn't even record anything because it's just so loud and constantly beeping.

And once it started, that was like we did the the USS Salem. Oh, God. In Quincy. Oh, yeah. And we did it with Sam and Colby.

That's the scariest place I've ever been.

And that was a wild one. And we went into the mess hall area. And as we were going in there, Sam jokingly said, everyone report to the mess hall. And they did. They put down the little the lullaby box thing. It was like that little Essentially it's like the rem pod where it's like the motion. He put it in the doorway and we all sat down. And as we were sitting there, it just went off like dozens of people were walking into the room.

And it was toward the end of the night. It hadn't really that specific thing hadn't been that active.

Hadn't really gone off. And it was going off. Literally like a herd of people were walking in the room and we were all just watching it. It was almost like he called for everybody and everybody was like, Oh, to the mess hall. It was like We tried to debunk it. We were trying to do it. It was so spooky. That thing went off for 10 minutes straight.

It was insane. Yeah, that room, specifically the mess hall, that was where somebody blew in your ear. Yes.

I felt someone blow into my... I could feel the hair move into my face. Yeah. It scared the shit out of me.

I got poked in the back there and a little girl spirit, tagged along with us and was talking to me. Yeah. Not like I could hear her, but she was talking to us through the ghost tube. That was crazy.

That one's a cool one, too.

And then we got chased out of there.

We sure did. Yeah, that was scary. They didn't want us there anymore.

It was me and Elaina. And there was one specific room where one entity or ghost there didn't like women and didn't want them. And in that area. And of course, we went in that area. And we had the ghost pod or the ghost tube up. And what did it say? It's a contrition.

Yeah, because Sam and Kolby went to a way other part of the ship because they wanted to see if leaving us alone, something would happen.

We were down. They said they were like, Are Are you guys cool to do that? Yeah, we were like, Absolutely. We were like, Hell, yeah.

I think it said...

It said contrition at one point.

Yeah, and it said...

And then it said, Repent. Repent.

At one point, and it said something about like, like, sinful or something. It kept saying like, very biblical things at us, like over and over. And then at one point it said abort.

And as it said abort, something fell in the other end of the room. Super loud. And it was so loud. We booked it out of there.

Oh my God.

I ended up He was knocking something over. Kolby was like, What did you knock over? I was like, I don't know. I'll pay for it.

I'm terrified.

Oh my God. It was so scary. It was so scary. But it was crazy.

Yeah, that was wild. All right. Second would you rather question is so random. This one's my favorite. I found these on Google. It said, Would you rather have plants that whisper dark secrets or become a werewolf every full moon?

Plants that whisper dark secrets. Me too.

Yeah, I know. That's pretty great. Mikey was like, Are they my dark secrets? Or are they just dark secrets in general? Up to interpretation.

Yeah, I'd rather that. I don't want to turn into a werewolf. That sounds painful. Yeah.

That's the only thing stopping me from picking that one is I'm like, I feel like that sounds painful.

Yeah, you'd be sore the next day, I feel.

You're right. Yeah. Probably. And I enjoy the full moon. So I just want to appreciate it. Me too.

I just want to buy crystals.

Yeah. Yeah. Drink the moon water.

I don't want to have to go like- And listen to my plant's whisper. Yeah. I'm whispering dark secrets that aren't mine.

You're like, whoa, that's crazy. Wouldn't you do?

Tell me more.

You just walk by your plants and they're like, Hey.

And you're like, Oh, shit. I have something to tell you.

What is it?

And then last one, this one's crazy. Would you rather have nightmares every single night that came true or live a life where you cannot distinguish between reality and your dreams?

I mean, not being able to distinguish might be a cool way to live.

I know.

That's just tripping through life. Yeah. Yeah.

Literally.

Honestly.

I think- I I don't want nightmares to come true. Those are so frightening sometimes.

That's the thing. Some of my nightmares are way too gnarly to be coming to life.

I barely remember my dreams, but when you say the word nightmare, the one that comes to mind is I was on this cliff edge, and I was trying to hold on with just my fingernails. And I was so on the edge, and people are like, You have to walk back this way. And it would mean I'd have to turn around. I'm not this... I'm barely holding on, and I'm literally peeling my fingernails back, trying to hold on to the side of the cliff. And it was freaking me out. So I think of things like that. I'm like, That's a nightmare to me. And that just becomes true. It just comes true.

That's scary.

No, thank you.

I have a recurring nightmare that I've had for years and years and years. I get it once a week, I swear. Where I'm outside and I hear a plane very loud. And so I look up and a plane crashes in my yard, right in front of me. And I can see it getting bigger and bigger in the sky thing, and it crashed. And then I wake up.

I don't like that you have that every week.

I have it so much.

Like, is somebody trying to tell you something?

But it's just me witnessing it. And then I wake up.

That's scary.

Because I hate the idea of that. I think it's because it's one of my biggest fears is seeing that happen. I don't like big things. Yeah.

Yeah, you have that. I forgot what it's called.

There's a phobia associated with that. I hate big buildings or statues.

Freak me the fuck out. We drove by a boat once that had a bunch of airplanes on it, and she like, freaked out. I don't blame you.

It just makes me uncomfortable. I don't like it.

That's interesting. I don't like limps. Oh, I got that. They freak me out. When I see them hovering like that. Yeah, they're too big. Yeah, I don't like that.

Yeah, there's just something about them.

And they just hover like that.

And it's just that little compartment, the big I feel like I need to go on one so I don't think negatively anymore. So you could be like, it's fine.

Negatively with them anymore. But every time I see one, I'm always like, Euh.

I hate you. I hate your energy.

Or nick will send me a picture of one and be like, just ask for funny. Like, he's driving to work, he'll see one, take a picture of it, send it to him. I'm like, No, I don't need to see the Good Year blimp today.

That's disgusting. I hate that.

I think Hindenburg.

Yes.

John will send me pictures of these huge statues around the world. Oh, no. In other parts of the world, there's statues that are just not natural. Like, they should not exist. No, it's true. They are far too big. And he's always like, look at this one. And I'm like, I can't.

We could never take you to Dubai or something because all the buildings are crazy top.

I would lose my mind.

Oh, that's like my dream.

I would lose my I love heights.

I feel like this is too much.

I was just in Scotland and they have what's called the kelpies. And they're these giant horse heads coming all the water. Oh my God. You would hate them?

That sounds horrific.

Oh my God.

They're bringing you to them.

Scotland is my ultimate bucket list place. It was, yeah. It was my ultimate bucket of this place.

Yeah. There's a castle called Irkart Castle. It's not our family's.

We got to see it. We got to see it. We don't own the castle.

I'm like, what's not ours?

It's ruins now. But yeah, that'd be fun. It's right on Loch Ness.

Yeah. That'd be crazy to see.

It's one of the stops when you take a bus to Stamper.

Yeah. It's one of the stops. Oh, yeah. We got to do that. We should definitely do that. I know because my dad's like, We got to go to the Highlands. It's his side of the family. Yeah.

We went to the Highlands. Super Scottish.

Did you go?

We didn't go to that castle, but we went into the Highlands and everything. We went to other castles and we did tasting to different things. Scotches and Scottish salmon and chocolates and all their things, meat pies, all their things.

That's been amazing. So fun. I really want to go to the Isle of Skye.

Oh, yeah. We didn't do that.

It's supposed to be very like, I feel like the girls would just go nuts over it. Definitely. It's all the fairy rings and like, fairy pools and all that. I feel like it would just be like, insane.

Yeah, I definitely want to do that.

Scotland. Is calling me. Yeah.

It was awesome. We just got back like two weeks ago. That's so cool.

That's so much fun. How long did you spend?

We were four days in Scotland, then we went to Switzerland and Paris and London. Oh, what a trip.

So it was a bigger trip. That's awesome. Have you ever done a Ripper tour? A Jack the Ripper tour?

Yeah, we did that back on Girls Next Door when we went with Hef. Oh, yeah.

I do remember that. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Oh, my God. I remember that episode. I was like, We have to do the Jack the Ripper tour. That would have been me. And we went to, what is it called? 8 Bells or 7 Bells? Yes.

Oh, 7 Bells.

7 Bells, yeah. That little bar. I mean, we walked in and everybody was like, Hello.

Like, How are you doing? Yeah.

Then the whole place went quiet.

And then we also did that. Oh, I'm blanking on what it's called now, But it's like a set up place where you walk through. Yes. And they have the Jack the Ripper section. They have a plague section. They have all the different horrible history that happened there. Yes.

When we go to Scotland, I feel like we need to do London, too. Yeah. I got to.

Yeah, I got to see White Chapel.

Yes, definitely. I was disappointed because it wasn't all foggy. I know.

It's not like you think it's going to be.

They're like, Yeah, we don't have fog anymore. That was the industrial revolution and pollution.

That was 1888.

We're like, We actually figured that out.

We got that under control now.

You didn't import some in? It's better for you to breathe here now.

Can you do the fog machines? Yes.

Can you make this feel more authentic?

Yes. I need it.

I love it.

Well, this has been so much fun. Oh, this has been great. We We're going to do one of these again. More haunted games together.

We're getting the Lizzie Borden house happening.

I totally thought you guys were going to bring up light as a feather stiff as a board. Oh my God, yes.

We did that one on our last installment. We did. I swear we research things and then they just fall out my brain afterwards. I know because it's too much. Same. But as a feather stiff as a board has a dark history, actually.

So I've never had success with it. Really? I think people don't take it seriously enough when I'm playing it. No. But I've heard people that have and have actually levitated people.

I feel like when I was younger, and this is probably my memory just feeling as a kid that we did it. I feel like we had a little success, at least slightly lifting someone.

That's good. I feel like.

But I don't know if that's just me as a kid being like, We totally did that. Yeah. But we used to it all the time.

We used to try and play it all the time, too, and I don't think it ever worked. I was recently in Canada, and I was shooting a movie. It wasn't scripted or anything, or at least not my part. I just had to go there and be the Paranormal Investigator and literally do Paranormal Investigating with them. Oh, I love that. That's cool. And it was just shot reality show style, like no script or anything. And we did table-tipping.

Oh.

And it worked. I would love to do it. And the table was moving like across the... Like moving.

Holy shit.

Wow. And this was not set up. I know the people who are doing this movie and everything, they're friends of mine and stuff. This is not set up. It was a card table. I watched the card table be set up. We put two fingers each on it. We had 2K, 2 meters on the top. Both of them were lighting up at the same time, and the whole table was moving.

Where was it that you did this?

In Canada, in Winnipeg.

That would be so much fun.

That would be outrageous to see.

There was this haunted hotel room, and we were in the room. Stop.

Oh my God. Oh my God. That would be insane to see.

That I would do. I'm like, no eat your birds, but I'll table tip. Let's go.

Seance? Yes.

It was so cool. That's so cool. And everyone was freaking out and jumping up and letting go the table, but it's still moving. Wow. And it moved back. And it was crazy because at first I could feel it. I could feel a vibration happening.

Some pulse.

And then almost like a tapping from underneath. And then all of a sudden it's like... And it starts sliding.

Oh, that's so weird. It's so creepy. Is there some way to make stop? How do you close it out when you're done?

Everybody just lets go and...

And then it just sits still.

It's like the chain is broken.

Wow. That is freaky. I did find my light as a feather stiff as a board document. It's not as dark as I remember, but it dates back to the 1600s. But back in the 1600s, they used to say, behold a dead body, still as stone, cold as marble, light as a spirit, we lift you in the name of Jesus Christ. Which is way darker than light as a feather.

Way scarier. Yeah.

But they've been playing it for... I mean, people have been playing it for ever and ever.

That's how the witch trials started.

Yeah.

Honestly, light as a feather stiff as a born chip.

I remember when we did this episode, I don't want to go over the whole thing because obviously people would be like, You did that. But It was something about how little girls have a fascination with death and the other side of things. I think because women were persecuted so often back in those days.

They were like, I should know about this.

Yeah, exactly. They were fascinated by it.

That makes sense.

But yeah, so creepy.

It is creepy.

Let's play that version instead. Yeah. Maybe it'll work for you if you do it that way. Maybe. Do it like the O-G way.

It sounds so much more serious, too. It does.

Yeah, that's business.

That is business. When you bring dead bodies and Jesus into it. It's business.

Any time you bring Jesús into it, that's scary. Next time you come, we'll play. Okay. All right.

We'll do it.

But to end this off, do you have anything that you want to plug? Obviously, your new pod. Plug, plug, plug.

Yeah, just the new God. Ghost Bunny podcast. We have a YouTube channel and the podcast.

Yes. I love it. It's so good. Check it out, you guys.

And Girls Next Level is so good, too.

Girls Next Level is so fun.

I listen to it all the time. Oh, good. Thank you. I'm totally caught up. Oh, good. Thank you. And the cover of Ghost Bunny is gorgeous. I love that. Oh, thank you. I'm obsessed. We were just talking about it yesterday. We were like, Stop. Thank you.

Your dress is so pretty. I love it.

So good.

And I feel like you would picture somebody running, wearing a white dress. I love that yours is pink. It's the Bridgette touch.

Yeah, exactly. I love it. Exactly.

Well, guys, thank you so much for listening. We hope you keep listening.

And we hope you...

Keep it... Keep it... Weird. But not so weird that you don't go listen to Ghost Bunny, Bridget's new pod.

Do it Bye.

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