Transcript of 'Gutfeld!': Why are 'armchair Marxists' celebrating the murder of a CEO?

There it is. Happy Wednesday, everyone. I'm excited too.

I'm Tom

Schalloo in for Greg Gutfeld on this very special edition of Gutfeld. He has an excuse. Let's kick things off with a couple of jokes. The famous Rockefeller Center Christmas tree has been lit, and holiday shoppers are filling up Fifth Avenue, but there are other signs the Christmas spirit is alive and well in New York City. For instance, instead of chalk, the police are outlining bodies with festive garland.

Disgraced former congressman Anthony Weiner is considering a run for New York City Council. Yeah. That means citizens over 18 may once again get to vote for him, and those under 18 might get this in their DMs. Caitlin Clark acknowledged her white privilege in Time Magazine. Hopefully, this move will lead to more African Americans having the opportunity to play pro basketball.

Unabomber's brother expressed concerns that alleged assassin Luigi Mangione may have been influenced by Ted Kaczynski. He also expressed concerns that people will always refer to him as the Unabomber's brother. Cher has reportedly fled her Malibu home as wildfires rage nearby. It's a smart move since plastic has a low melting point. A British member of parliament has argued against a proposed law banning marriage between first cousins.

1 American observer asked, why stop there? Okay. Now to my searing monolog. Doomscrolling is a fairly new word, and it is appearing a lot in the news lately, mostly in articles about how to avoid it. Like this 1.

Wait a minute. Isn't rotting our brains a bit much? Even articles about doomscrolling are filmed with doom. This is why I try to approach the news of the day in the spirit of my mentor, Greg Gutfeld. Here was his reaction to the Daniel Penney verdict on Monday.

Hooray for Daniel Penney and those heroes who risk everything to help others, and a more than deserved f you to Alvin Bragg. That's how you do it, Greg. And kudos on only swearing once, Greg, unlike Dana Perino. This is the way Greg does it. You look for the good in the news, but you don't ignore the bad stuff.

Just don't get bogged down. Call out the BS and move on. This week started with great news on 2 fronts, Daniel Penney's acquittal and the capture of the infamous suspected CEO assassin. The opening of A Tale of 2 Cities reads, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I quote from the Dickens classic because sometimes it feels we're living in a tale of 2 narratives.

After the news broke on both those big stories, the inevitable social media opinions followed suit. On the Daniel Penney acquittal, New York City council member Tiffany Caban said this, Jordan Neely deserved better than the violence of being denied access to stable housing and health care and then dehumanized for it. But then astute readers gave her a bit of a fact check via X's community notes feature. They pointed out how Neely got a plea deal after punching a 67 year old woman in 2021 and actually did get free access to housing and health care, but he bolted from the facility after just 13 days. And like clockwork, Tiffany locked down her ex account Yeah.

So only her followers can see her posts. Too bad for us. Then after the made for social media outburst from Luigi Mangione while in police custody, we have a lot of armchair Marxists celebrating the murder of a CEO as kind of payback for capitalism. Meanwhile, you got people hawking merchandise glorifying an accused killer. And then there's the always rational journalist, Taylor Lorenz, on Piers Morgan show.

Why would you be in such a celebratory mood about the execution of another human being? Aren't you supposed to be on the caring, sharing left where, you know, you believe in the sanctity of life?

I do believe in the sanctity of life, and I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately, you know, because it feels like

Seriously?

I mean

Joy in

the matter of execution?

Maybe not joy but certainly not no certainly not empathy.

No. Definitely not empathy. But something with path in it. Sociopath? Psychopath?

Pathetic maybe. But it seems that it's not difficult to find people sympathetic to the idea of executing CEOs. Right, Liz Warren?

Look, we'll say it over and over. Violence is never the answer. This guy gets a trial who's allegedly killed the CEO of UnitedHealth. But you can only push people so far. And then they start to take matters into their own hands.

So is violence bad or not? I guess it all depends on who's getting hurt. I don't know where the line is for Liz, but I'm assuming it stops before you get to politician. And then you've got talking heads on CNN who lamented the suspect's newfound fame and a host who couldn't resist asking the graphics guy to, quote, take down the banner so they could see Luigi's abs.

The man accused of killing United Healthcare's CEO going viral. Images of Luigi Mangione seem to captivate the attention of online masses. So much of, you know, the clips we were watching at the top of the segment are driven by the fact that this is this is an attractive You know, we gotta drop the banner to show why.

The guy, he did drop the banner.

When you see the reactions to these 2 very different events, it can give 1 pause. We have people calling for vigilante violence after the penny verdict, and we're seeing an assassin celebrated on social media. 1 might think, how can I possibly be sharing the planet with these people? But the evidence is everywhere that most people see through this foolishness, and that is a reason to celebrate. People like Taylor Lorenz are outliers.

Just like the trolls who are talking about how cute this newly famous murderer is, those same people would be calling out his toxic masculinity the second he criticized Obamacare. You can look at these posts online and think the modern world has absolutely lost its mind. But we have to remember, this has happened before. We do romanticize killers. It happened with the Menendez brothers, the Boston bombers.

Even John Dillinger had a fan club back in the 19 thirties. People are captivated, titillated by murder. But in the end, most of us can tell the difference between a hero and a villain. Let's welcome tonight's guest. She spent more time on the sidelines than Colin Kaepernick, host of the Michelle Topoia podcast, Michelle Topoia.

Progressives avoid him like he's a student low payment. Comedian Lou Perez. This is the first time she can't fit in a kid's clothes. New York Times best selling author and Fox News contributor, Kat Timm. He's far too tall for mistletoe.

New York Times best selling author, comedian, and former NWA world champion, Tyress. That's it. Okay. Michelle, what do you think? Are you at all surprised that there are people out there who are celebrating this guy?

I am. I I I I just am. He killed someone. We see it on video. Right?

And so this is bizarre. You know, there were people comparing and contrasting, Daniel Penney and and this dude.

Yeah.

And here's the comparison. They're both 26 years old. That's that's it. Yeah. There after that, there's no comparison.

I find it really bizarre when people kinda romanticize these people. There's got there's gotta be a term for that. Is there some sort of pathology that describes why people do this? I don't get it. But as you pointed out, the good news.

So Daniel Penney is unanimously, you know, he's, acquitted, and all the BLM people came out and said all the awful things they said, which was amazing to me. But unlike 2020 in my hometown of Minneapolis, we did not see the big protests and the demonstrations that I think that BLM really wanted. So I do get the sense maybe that we're starting to turn that the fever on that has broken up.

Well,

yeah. Well, to be fair, BLM ran out of black people. Oh. Did you not see the march? It was just, like, white liberals and 1 brother looking for the subway.

And what do you do you think it is this case, or do you think it's just that the the air has run out of the the the BLM movement?

You can only piss down our backs so long and tell us the rain. Eventually, we're gonna go, that's not rain. Americans just got tired of it. You can't group us anymore. And the 1 thing this the 1 thing the unintentional thing of this administration is is we all felt the hurt together.

We all felt the electric bills. We all felt the the missed justice. We all said, like, wait, they're charging him for a crime that doesn't exist yet? That resonated with everyone. But nothing's ever gonna stop the the keyboard cowboys.

It's so easy to be like, yeah, I got killed because they're not affected by it. It sounds cool. They get likes. They get attention. But when you if they were actually gonna walk up to say somebody's face, like, oh, yeah.

I'm glad he got shot. If you said that and and there's consequences. So on these online count, there's nothing new. They all talk tough on their little keyboards and say, I'm glad he got but show me what was tough about him. He shot this dude in the back, and I I'm sorry.

There's never been a time in history where anybody said shooting a guy in the back is brave. It's literally the most cowardly thing you do. He didn't turn him around and face him and all these other things that they try to make this guy out to be. He shot somebody in the back in cold blood, period. There's nothing about him that's honorable.

But because he gets on because he's good and we see this all the time. If somebody's good looking, especially you know how lonely people are, if they're willing to wanna go on a date or fantasize against a guy who would shoot you in the back. That says more about them than it does anybody else. The problem is is we should stop echoing it. We should literally when those people do that stuff, you should just block them and move on because they their voice does not matter.

They're not in the game. Yeah.

Lou Perez, did you I I wanna make a, you know, kind of a put a line between the people who are talking about him being good looking and then the people who are justifying his actions. They're looking they're saying like, the way Liz Warren I'm surprised that somebody I mean, someone who's such a prominent figure that she comes out and says you can only push people so far. And then she says, we're not, you know, we're not advocating violence. But it it kinda sounds like she's approaching that line. Right?

Yeah. It's a really cynical move because, in a in a way, it's like, is she trying to kinda protect herself? Because when you really get, you know, dig into the details about, you know, the health care system, look, incentives are there due to regulations, government, regulations and policies and rule makers. So, if somebody were going to take the assassin, you know, way, I mean, there's there's gonna be insane amount of bloodshed because you have a whole industry that's, you know, that that has a lot of powerful people behind it.

Yeah.

Yeah. It is really, it is gross. I I I hate to see it. And you're right. I mean, when it comes down to, like, the stuff you can get away with if you're good looking.

Right? In the eighties, John Hinckley junior tried to assassinate Donald Reagan Yeah. To get Jodie Foster. And it didn't work because he's not good looking and Jodie Foster is gay. Gotcha.

So he's had a lot of hurdles in me. Yeah. A lot he had he had to get over a lot.

And and I'm really upset too because I think, you know, this guy has a manifesto. Right? And it just shows, like, the state of, like, publishing that we're in where it's so hard to get people to read your books that you will go to insane lengths. And just so everyone knows, I have a manifesto.

Exactly. It's

called that joke isn't funny anymore. Don't push me too far.

Yes. Okay, Kat. On the Daniel Penney thing, I mean, you're you're seeing a lot of people. I only had 1 reaction there. But there there are people out there.

It wasn't just the BLM people standing on the steps of the of the courthouse. There are people out there now, and if you listen to talk radio, left wing talk radio, it's not all left wingers, but there are people that are trying to take the Daniel Penney thing and turn it into what was Ferguson, you know, or what was you know, their heyday seems to be over.

So what I think is that, to me, it seems impossible that anybody would actually believe that Daniel Penney was a racist man out for blood. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. I feel like if you know the facts of the of what happened, then you could have no other opinion other than the fact that this man does not belong in prison. Right? The fact that if you were on that subway car, you would have also been afraid, the fact that it wasn't just white people helping him restrain the guy, all the things that all of us here know.

Right? But I think that perhaps these people heard something about it, and they had their worldview already set. And they're like, okay. Well, I think it must be this because that's what I've already decided things are. And they don't wanna it's the sunken cost fallacy.

They don't wanna go back on it because I don't know how anyone could possibly think that at this point. Yeah. I I I really don't know how anybody could be honest and know all the facts and possibly think that at this point. To me, I I I honestly just don't even really believe it. Maybe that they're they're being willfully obtuse and haven't looked into it anymore, or they're trying to twist their brain to some kind of pretzel rather than admit that maybe they were wrong or this wasn't what they assumed it was, because it's impossible to look at the facts of what happened here and have any other conclusion except the 1 that was reached.

Although you gotta follow the money too. Like, the father of this guy,

now That too.

Filed a civil suit. What? And to say that to say that, you know, this shouldn't have I shouldn't be going through this. My son didn't have to die. Did he even know his son?

I mean, this father of this of this man, this is a homeless guy with schizophrenia. I don't think the father was anywhere in his life.

Real quick, if if you wanna go with the racist line Yeah. If a racist man walked on a subway and saw a black man threatened to kill more black people, he would just say, well, go ahead and where's the popcorn? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, it's a good day for me.

Exactly. You know, it just makes no sense. And this guy stepped up and then, you know, he suffered the consequences. But he said if he could do it again, he would do the same thing. Before we go, I'll be appearing this weekend at bananas in New Jersey.

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