Transcript of Okay…These Text Messages Are Crazy! | Candace Ep 307

Okay, you guys. I'm sorry that I'm running late today. Just so much that I wanted to cover our last show before we go off air next week, preparing for our limited Erica Kirk series. Now, we had received a large influx of emails because Baren Coleman had a bit of a viral episode regarding a seemingly weird relationship that Erica had with a then 15-year-old girl named Gillian. Erica was 25 years old at the time, and they developed a relationship that some people believe amounted to a type of grooming. Now, Baren Coleman was very clear. He gave specific instructions to his viewers not to reach out to Gillian, who is now an adult, about the situation. I, for some reason, was unable to follow these simple instructions. I reached out to her immediately. I don't know what's wrong with me. But I had a great chat with her about her dynamic with Erica. So welcome back to Candice. Okay, shout out to Nimi Skincare for sponsoring today's episode. It's the only skincare brand that I've actually stayed consistent with and what my routine is built around. Winter is when skin really takes a beating and that dryness can make fine lines show up faster.

You can find them by visiting nemyskincare. Com and use my code, Candice10 at checkout, and you'll get 10% off your order. Okay, so today, obviously, like I said, is our last episode before we take a week off air, pulling things together for our Erica Kirk biographical series, working title, Fatal Attraction. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Maybe I'm kidding. We don't know. Speaking of a fatal attraction, something that has been doing the rounds on social media, thanks to, first and foremost, a YouTuber by the name of Nicey. So full credit to Nicy. Then, of course, Baren Coleman picked it up. I love it. We're all pooling information, and here we are, is regarding this relationship that Erika had over, it looks like social media, a lot of it played out over social media. I'm just going to actually cut to Nicey here, who's going to unpack it for you. To give you a little bit of background, it's 2013, and therefore, Erika has just completed her year as Ms. Arizona, and she's 25 years old to the time Erika is. Now you're going to learn how she met Gillian. Take a listen.

Back in 2013, Erika was 25 years old, and she was in a relationship with a basketball player named Joshua Harrelson. So at the time, he was living in Michigan, and Erika moved out there to be with him. On the evening of September 15, 2013, Joshua Harrelson and Erica met a 15-year-old girl named Gillian Falcon. And I know this because Gillian tweeted about it. At 3: 53 PM, Gillian tweeted that she was out for sushi with her friend, and Two hours later, she tweeted, Just met Ms. Arizona and Josh Harrelson. Hard eyes emoji. Now, I'm not sure if Gillian coincidentally bumped into Erica and Joshua or if they were introduced. What I do know is that Gillian had a friend, and the friend's grandparents were renting a home to Erica in Michigan. So I'm not entirely sure if all of these people just bumped into each other, coincidentally, at the sushi restaurant or if they were formally introduced. But nonetheless, they met and Erica struck up what I view as a very odd relationship with the 15-year-old girl named Gillian.

I can help clarify. I can build on that. Like I said, I spoke with Gillian, and that information, part of that information is very accurate. It was about payment for rent, and that is how Gillian meets Erica Kirk. She opens the door. She's presumably living with or visiting her boyfriend at the time, and she sees Erica Kirk and she thinks, Oh, my gosh, this 25-year-old girl is so beautiful, and Erica is extremely kind to her, and they start speaking. Somehow, and Gillian does not recall how this transpired, somehow during this rent arrangement, Erica and her exchange numbers. What happens next is they begin messaging each other, a texting relationship, and across social media making comments on each other, one another's posts, and In the beginning, it seems fine enough, I guess. The conversation is polite, maybe something that you might expect to see between someone who has some level of notoriety or Fame and one of their fans over social media. But then it picks up, just as Nicey indicates it. It picks up, and I'm going to allow you to listen to her explain what then transpires. I would also, again, like to reinforce the fact that this girl, Gillian, is 15 years old and Erika is 25.

It's worth mentioning that at this point in her biography, Erika is also working with sex trafficking charities. This is that year where she says that she got involved with a sex trafficking charity over in China. I'll have more for you on that next week, but take it away, Naisy.

On February 13th, 2014, Gillian replied to one of Erika's tweets by saying, @ErikaFrancevi, gorgeous as always. A few hours later, she then tweeted, Why did @ericafrancevi just send me this? Laughing emojis. And there is a photo which says, This Valentine's Day, I am going to touch your butt. Gillian posted this tweet on March 6, 2014. So Erica says, Let me call you. Hold on, sweetheart. Give me a sec. Wow. And then Gillian says, Okay, and puts laughing emojis. Erica then says, Sec. Sex too, but not from you. L-o-l. Holy laughing emoji. You always make me laugh. I don't bat for the other team just yet. On March 13th, 2014, Gillian shared another screenshot of her text messages with Erika. Erika says, I forgot to tell you, hydrate tonight. No alcohol, and don't eat a lot of salty foods. You don't want to look bloated. Gillian then responds, Thank you. Erica says, No alcohol. Really, Erica? Age recognition, you twotwaffle. Apparently, I haven't had my coffee yet. What the hell, Erica, laughing emoji. Well, on that bite, dot, dot, dot, Note, damn you, Siri. Come on, hashtag the struggle. What are you trying to say, laughing emoji?

Spit it out, you twotwaffle. On the morning of March 26, 2014, Gillian tweeted, I just want to be somebody's woman crush Wednesday. Is that too much to ask? That evening, she then tweets, Thank you at Erica Frantzvi for making my whole week. And she shares this photo, and the photo is of a gnome, and it says, I want to be inside your lady garden. Noem saying, On April third, 2014, '1989, Gillian tweeted this picture and said, I miss this goon. A few minutes later, she tweeted, Did Erica just text me #NoNewFriends? Oh my fucking God, I can't. A few days later, on April fifth, 2014, Gillian posted this tweet, Getting this in the mail from Erika Frantzvi. In the photo is a red box of chocolate-covered strawberries and other chocolate desserts. And the card in the photo says this, Happy sweet 16, beautiful girl. Keep strong in faith and know that you're loved. But most of all, never forget that You are perfect and amazing just the way you are. I am so proud of you. Today is the first day of another 365-day journey around the sun. Enjoy the trip, boo. Love you, E.

On June seventh, 2014, Gillian shared this tweet, This has to be the most heartfelt compliment I've ever gotten. And she attached a screenshot of her conversation with Erika. So Gillian says, Thank you. Erika says, You have the most stunning features. Gillian says, Best compliment ever. Erika says, Your eyes, your lips, your skin, you're absolutely beautiful. Gillian responds with the crying emoji, You're making me cry. In February of 2014, Gillian went on a family trip to Puerto Rico, and Erika was liking and commenting on her Instagram posts. So Gillian posted this photo of the beach, and Erika says, Unreal gorgeous. And then Gillian responds, This is by far my favorite picture I took. My mom wants to get it blown up at Erika Frantzvi. Erika responds, I could see why, boo. Gillian responds, So perfect at Erika Frantzvi. Erika then responds, Yes, I know you are.

I'm just going to follow that with a little bit of silence. I just want us to all contemplate it. Let's actually contemplate it for the people who are going to try to explain it, the Eric explainers, who are going to be like, That's not weird. No. What? Never been a 25-year-old sending chocolate-covered strawberries to a 15-year-old? That's not weird. You guys haters. Oh, come on. You've never, as a 25-year-old, decided to message a 15-year-old about their lips and their skin and how perfect they are. You never decided to message them when they posted a photo of them with a person that's their age and said, No new friends. Almost like territorial. That's obviously all just a joke or something like that. By the way, just in general, going back to how they met, I'm trying to rationalize in my head. Under what scenario, if you opened the door and a 15-year-old was there, would you exchange numbers with them? I'm trying to rationalize. Maybe if they were with their parents and the parents were like, He was looking for a job. I don't know if you need a babysitter. You guys want to go to dinner for a couple of hours, a thing, maybe.

But I'd probably take the parents number. Yeah, I would definitely take the parents number. I actually can't rationalize that. I'm throwing that out because sometimes people in the chat can be more creative me, and they could say, Oh, no, it's totally durable to exchange numbers to 15-year-olds and then have this relationship with them, where you're commenting and making lesbian jokes. I don't swing for the next team yet. Is that appropriate to say to a 15-year-old in your 25? Come on, where are my Eric explainers in the chat? I want to hear it. It's a time to be alive. Everyone's explaining Jeffrey Epstein and all of his friends. Go ahead, go for it. I think it's fine. Go I want to hear it. There's so much that disturbs me about that. But again, when I first was going, Everything is wrong here, that's my natural intuition, I didn't want to then extrapolate and jump to conclusions until I spoke with Gillian. On the off chance that maybe it is my personal sense is, having learned everything about Erica's background, maybe my personal sense is about Erica might be clouding my judgment. Maybe there was a perfectly reasonable explanation for that relationship.

Maybe she really is just such an amazing person by the time she's 25 years old, such a strong and faithful Christian that she wants a 15-year-old to feel sexy or something. I also want to note that this particular 15-year-old, at this time, what we know based off of Gillian's tweets, is that she doesn't have a father in her life. She tweeted this in June of 2014, I haven't seen my dad over two years. The reason why I want to point that out is because Charlie Kirk and I did a lot on the road discussing father absence and how these teenagers and children are instantly more vulnerable to tons of things getting involved in the wrong networks, criminal activity. You need a father in the home. I just find it interesting that it's a good fact to know about this girl at this time. Maybe her father's in her life since. I don't know. I didn't ask her. But I told you I called her. I I personally reached out because sometimes I just can't follow instructions the right way. I asked her about how she felt about it, 10 years removed from a situation, and she responded exactly how you might expect.

She said, At the time, as a 15-year-old, she was blown away by this amazingly beautiful, older, semi-famous person that was giving her all of this attention. For clarity, I am completely empathetic to that position and experience as a younger girl, obviously. I correlated to how I felt. I think I've told you guys in the past about Christina Aguilera when she first dropped, and then I was obsessed with her when I was 13, 14 years old. My mom put me on punishment because I was so obsessed with Christina Aguilera. Christina Aguilera, at that point in my life, Maybe if my mom had not punished me for idolatry, but at that point in my life, I'm racing home to watch TRL because I got to make sure she's number one. If Christina Aguilera had then given me tons of attention, I'd be like, I can't even believe this. Christina Aguilera is giving me attention. She probably could have manipulated me into a lot of things because my brain would not have been developed. This is normal tween to early teen emotions and passion. It's precisely, if you track my work when it's always been my biggest gripe with Taylor Swift, even though I like her music, it's because I find that she harnesses the power of that tween emotion to get business deals done.

Yet she's 36. Anyway, I digress. That's the point of that. We know that they're reactive, they're emotional, and her fans will kill somebody if they have to, right? But hindsight is 2020, as we always say. Gillian today is now 27 years old, and she fully appreciates how absolutely weird this was and how absolutely weird it is. She's going back and she is wondering, what exactly was this all about? What exactly was Erica harnessing her teenage emotion for? Why is she continually telling her that she's beautiful, that she has perfect lips. Why is this 25-year-old who's not even from Michigan interested in this dialog with her? Something she points out is, I was with my friend when I met her, but she never had this relationship with Shayan. Shayan is mentioned elsewhere in that video. Why was it particularly Gillian that she was interested in? Curiously, get this, she tells me that she and Erica actually never hung out in person beyond that first meeting. This was purely meant to be an electronic, a platonic relationship where Erica said stuff even like this to her on Instagram. Gillian, that dime piece beside the car, though, she's referring to Gillian, just so you...

She's referring to Gillian beside a car as a dime piece. Again, if this was two 15-year-olds speaking to each other, I'd be like, That's totally fine. I actually tend to agree with Nicey's assessment. Elsewhere in the video, just put in your mind this is a 25-year-old man referring to a 15-year-old girl. What would happen? What would you be thinking? Again, Erika did not actually hang out with her beyond that. So what exactly was her stated goal. Well, I can at least tell you what that last weird text exchange was about, the one where Erika tells her not to drink and to suck her stomach in tonight, wherever they're going tonight. People assumed that they had gone somewhere together, but no, that exchange is actually in reference to Erica then having sent this 15-year-old to have photos taken.

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Insane. She sent this 15-year-old to have photos taken. She's helping her because she's just so beautiful. Get into maybe some modeling. That's at least how she presented it to her. So after telling her how beautiful and perfect her lips were, she then sets her up with a photographer, a friend of Erica's. Erica, she says, arranged the entire thing. This person she had only met once. Then after her, maybe love bombing her, we describe it, then sends her to meet up with this male photographer. Gillian said that this photographer was creepy. She's trying to remember his name. She says she remembers it began with an R, and he was shorter, chubbier, and Yeah, I'd say, Yeah, Gillian, that's pretty creepy. Any photographer who is taking photos of a 15-year-old without their parents' consent is a creep. Find me this. I am looking to find and discover who this person was. I would also similarly say that any person who is arranging for photographs to be taken of a 15-year-old girl without explicit permission from that person's mother is a total creep. Erica, having done this is completely and utterly creepy. It's creepy. It makes no sense.

It makes no sense. I will not allow people to say that it makes sense in some context. It just doesn't make any I asked, Did she speak to your mother? She said, No, she never spoke to my mother. This was happening on the phone. Her mom was probably thinking, She's just on Instagram speaking to whoever, and she's not even considering that this is happening. So what does all of this sound like? It sounds to me like every parent's worst nightmare. Your kid has a phone, they get social media accounts, they're making friends over the internet. The next thing you know, you find out that there's a man at night, if Erica's message is to be believed, who's taking photos of I'll ask the question, the obvious question here. How much smoke before we are allowed to confirm that it seems there may be a fire? Because everything in Erica Kirk's story, which we will more thoroughly present to you in the weeks to come, has proximity to child trafficking scandals and proximity to charities and involvement with charities that had trafficking scandals and abuse scandals, sometimes literal proximity, by the way. I think I've mentioned this, Turning Point USA's headquarters, incredibly, maybe I haven't mentioned it, they're almost directly across the street from the number one human and child sex trafficking location in Arizona, a place called Arizona Mills.

If you're in Arizona, everyone goes, Oh, yeah, I know what that is. Everybody knows about Arizona Mills. Who picked this location for a student activist organization? Who is the real estate agent on that deal? I feel like when a good real estate agent comes around, you're like, Oh, is this a good spot? They'd say, You know what? You don't want to be close to Arizona Mills. No, it's not a great spot for a student activist organization. Was Eric a real estate agent? Actually, I do know who handpicked it. I was around for that. It was Tyler Boyer. He's a proud fifth generation, I think he says, Arizonan. He grew up in its backyard, Chandler Gilbert area. I'm going to go ahead and assume that he was familiar with the reputation of Arizona Mills. Tracy Martin, Erica's best friend, she also has been involved in charity work for trafficking victims via Dream City Church, which we mentioned to you. That actually makes sense because Dream City Church runs Phoenix Dream Center. Phoenix Dream Center, according to their website, is a center that provides residential rehabilitation, shelter, and care for victims of human trafficking. Wow, everyone is so amazing.

So amazing. It just can't get enough of trying to help these trafficking victims. It says that they provide affordable housing for men and women that are in transition after having been trafficked. They give them food, they give them clothing. Nothing to see there because it's a charity. You can't question a charity. Turning Point USA is a charity. You can't question a charity. Stacey Sheridan, who has been playing the role of Erica Kirk's mother, we recently discovered, worked under Jeffrey Epstein's friend, Kenneth Starr, at Pepperdine University. By the way, I can't find a trace of her actually at University, aside from her resume where she says she worked there for eight years in Ken The Star's office. But the point is that for almost a decade, she worked for Ken The Star at the exact same time that he was working with Jeffrey Epstein. But Stacey Sheridan is not Erica's real mom. Lori is Erica's real mother. We had mentioned to you this desert spirit tech company that she was running. Lori was running on a Native American reservation. And boy, were we hit with a lot of emails about, you guessed it, high instances of children and girls being trafficked off of that specific reservation where the office is not located because somebody went.

They said, This address does not exist. But all of that, by the way, we'll get into in the weeks to come. In the short term, we can confirm that this just must be all one unfortunate coincidence, all of it. You are a monster, by the way, for even noticing this. For even noticing this theme. You are a monster for wondering if Charlie also began to notice this theme in the end, because what exactly happened the night before he died. Why was Erica being so weird about providing a sensible alibi for her whereabouts on September eighth? Why did nobody see her when somebody else believes they did see her at Fort Huachuca? Speaking We have September eighth, by the way, it's also an important date to flag. I think it's a little weird, but it's a fact that Erica chose that date in particular to break her years-long Twitter silence. Did you know this? Erica had not authored a tweet since 2023. She had retweeted a couple of things. Who knows if somebody did it for her? But she herself had not offered a tweet. Suddenly, 48 hours before Charlie's death, on September eighth, at 10: 49 AM, Arizona time, she decides to break that silence with this tweet, Scripture.

Ephesians 2: 8, For by grace, you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing. It is the gift of God, not a result of work, so that no one may boast. Okay? And suddenly, she then was on a roll. She then tweeted again on September ninth, 9: 44 AM local time. She tweeted, Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good. Blessed is the man that takes refuge in him. Then again, on the day that Charlie is assassinated at 9: 44 05: 00 AM, Arizona time, which is an hour and a half. An hour and a half before he's killed. Erica tweets, God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. People ran like, Wow, I can't believe this. This godly woman happened to have tweeted this right before her husband got assassinated. Like I said, you're a monster for noticing. If you're thinking that, No, she just really did suddenly want to break her Twitter silence. She's very, as we can see, she's She is committed to the Lord. Every sentence, every sentence that comes out is about God, so how could you question it? Anyway, before we go off air for next week, I want to be thorough and again put out an APB for certain information.

A couple of things before we get into what we're looking for at more tips at kandastones. Com. The reason Gillian is speaking to me is because she's asking people to stop messaging her. She doesn't want all these people messaging her. She's like, I'm already in communication with you. We're trying We're trying to figure things out. We're trying to figure out who this photographer was that took photographs of her. We're on it. We're on the case. You guys no longer have to slide in her DMs or hunt her down. I am fully on this and we'll have more information for you. I suspect, in the coming week. Now, pertaining to what we're looking for, please email more tips@cannisowns. Com. Again, guys, we're a very small team, so I appreciate the emails about, Have you seen this? Have you watched that? I would just Please don't send those. Just tag us on TikTok. Tag us in something that you want us to see. Do not clutter our inbox with, Please watch this, or random things. We really want to use this to get information or answers to questions that we're asking on this show. Here are the questions that we are still looking for answers to.

One, who was it that Erica knew that was at the Batman Colorado mass shooting? That theater, remember that happened when the Batman movie came out in Colorado, Erica tweeted and said that she knew somebody that was in that theater. Does anybody know who that is? Has anybody heard any more? Is there an interview out there where she discusses that further? I would like to know more about that information. Secondly, does anybody know or remember Erika Frantz Fay from Ohio. Doing her biography, it's almost as though she suddenly just appears in her high school years in Arizona. The backstory is that she's from Ohio until she gets into high school. Who attended middle school with Erica in Ohio? If that's you, we want to hear from you more tips at kannesowens. Com. Did you attend elementary school with Erica? If that's you, we would like to hear from you. You guys in Cincinnati, Ohio, please check your yearbooks. Maybe you didn't know that it was her because it's a long time ago. Please email us. Also, does anybody remember her at Loyola Maramount? This is also the same school as she shared and went to. People who went in that same year as her say, I don't remember We have not had a single person that has come out and said that they remember her, despite the fact that she is mentioned in a program.

I'm looking for somebody who says, Yeah, I took a class with her. She was a full adult by then. You would remember this. Oh, I went out with her for something. I don't know. If you attended school with her at Loyola Maramount. We would like to hear from you. Again, we will ask for more information just to dot our I's and to cross our T's, even though I think we have the information we need. If you have any information pertaining to Erica Kirk's whereabouts on September eighth, when she broke her Twitter silence, the ninth, or on the 10th, when Charlie was assassinated because the story goes, turning point employees were told that she got the news when she was with her mom, and then she drove herself back home. Thus far, nobody where they live remembers seeing Erica, but she apparently met Stacey Sheridan and a couple of other people, and then they went to the airport together. It's a pretty The big assassination the entire world would have been looking out for her in that moment, especially people who knew who Charlie Kirk was. These neighbors said they knew him, they knew his wife, they knew his kids.

And thus far, nobody remembers seeing Erica Kirk on the 10th. Maybe you work at the airport and you saw her bored. That would make sense. Yes, I happened to work at the terminal, and I saw them all run in looking frantic in Scottsdale. I would like to try to confirm that story on September 10th. Anyway, we will pause there. We will be right back after the break. All right, you guys, NemeSkincare is the only skincare brand that I have actually stayed consistent with. It's what I use, it's what I trust, and it's what my routine is built around. A lot of people think that anti-aging is about finding the strongest product or the newest trend. But the reality is aging does not happen overnight. It happens slowly over time when your skin loses support, protection, and consistency. That's why Neme's three-step anti-aging routine is the smart choice long term. It focuses on the real drivers of aging, things like collagen breakdown, environmental stress, and a weakening of the skin barrier, instead of just these quick fixes that are available. The routine uses proven actives like vitamin C, peptides, and retinol. But the bigger difference is that they are designed to work together.

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A TikTokeer went viral discussing it. Take a listen.

If you don't know, during the Charlie Kirk assassination, there was a significant number of young men wearing maroon shirts. Originally, Candice Owens was the first person to point this out, and everybody called her crazy. However, I found proof that she was right. So after she made this claim, a lot of people caught her crazy. But then there was also a good amount of people from the military that were saying, That's absolutely a thing that the military does during secret operations in public areas. They choose a color of the day. I started thinking, right? I was like, What if I search in the DOJ files the term color of the day? And What do you know? I find 40 results of different FBI briefings talking about a color of the Day, and every single one is unredacted. You can see what the Color of the Day was for that day for whatever military operation was going on. Now, most of the details for the military operation is redacted. However, on the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination, the morning of before his death, they established a Color of the Day for a sit rep, which is It's just a military situation report, and the Color of the Day is redacted.

Out of 40 different files mentioning the Color of the Day for secret operations, the day of Charlie Kirk's assassination is the The only one that has the color of the day redacted.

Like I said, I'm just out here doing common sense. I noticed also, by the way, it wasn't just maroon. I felt like they were organizing by battalions. Some people were all wearing white hats. Some people were wearing their socks in a certain way where I was like, Never seen this many people wear their socks this high before. I'm a person who likes to organize her pantry. My pantry in my kitchen is a high point for me. Every day I go in there, it's so organized. I organize my seasonings. I had to buy a label, a label maker, so I could organize my seasonings. For those of us who are that in the weeds on organization, thinking about how you might organize a military operation, that seemed pretty obvious. I just recognize organization, even when it's supposed to look like chaos, it's got to be organized. That's what was going down on that day. I have a folder of the... I call them the white hats. This and that that was happening on that day. Very obvious. Now, who knows? He said he's going through the DOJ files. Who knows if that particular reference was pertaining...

It could be pertaining to any number of military operations on the 10th, and they could be covering it because there was maybe another FBI operation and military operation that was taking place, I don't know, in Canada or whatever it is. People might notice that a lot of people were green, and so maybe that's the reason they're blocking it out. I don't know. What I do know is Maroon, the Maroon Boys were somehow involved. That seems pretty obvious to me that there was some coordination happening. Also, they were all alone, which was weird. Also, whoever wore Maroon wanted to go to this event alone. They had no homies with them. Anyways, moving on. After yesterday's episode regarding Photogate, Turning Point issued a statement about how Now, the wedding photo, which was curiously there when Charlie was hosting his last show and then was suddenly removed when Erica was speaking to Glenn Beck in December, they're always panicked, and then they issue a dumb statement. That's their move. They never take a deep breath and think about whether what they're going to say makes any sense. The issue was, Erica was like, This is my first time.

She's on Glenn Beck. The exact sentence I think she says is, I haven't been here in forever. Sorry if I keep looking This is a note that he wrote. Okay, how long is forever? It sounds like it's been a long time since you've been in this particular office, and you obviously have not even seen this desk. Anyway, to account for the now missing photo, They went to Newsweek. I think the editor at large is Josh Hammer. They just can't help themselves. They just want to look guilty in everything that they do. This is what they told. This is what they told the newsweek. A post has gone viral online that appeared to show Erica Kirk having moved or or removed a photograph of her and Charlie Kirk at their wedding. While a Turning Point USA spokesperson told Newsweek, Erica moved it to a lower shelf when her daughter asked to see it so that she could hold and look at the photo. It's still on the studio shelf. It's just lower down where her daughter can look at it whenever she's in there with her mom. There's just always so much obvious emotional manipulation I don't know how you guys feel, but I feel like they should have went with the Andrew Colvette went rogue excuse.

I think it's stronger. I like that. It's my favorite one. I said, to go with Andrew Colvette went rogue. I love him being rogue. It's more believable. It certainly is more believable that Andrew Colvette went rogue. Because I'm feeling now like I got to start Justice for Gigi. They keep dragging this poor toddler into every possible alibi regarding Erica Kirk. I'm just not going to stand for this much longer. We're out here treating Gigi like Puerto Rican moms treat their daughters. Okay, Latinos, you know what I'm talking about. Their sons can do no wrong.. The daughters, they do a lot of wrong. That's how I'm feeling. Like Gigi's getting some treatment here that I'm not cool with. She's always in the alibi. Remember Gigi kicked Charlie out of the bed the night before because she was doing gymnastics. Oh, Gigi wanted to move that photo to eye level, so they had to move it. Gigi wanted to go for a walk, so Erica couldn't have been at some Fort in Huachuca because She was with Gigi. Leave Gigi alone. Obviously, that did not happen because it makes no sense to bring a photo to ground level in a studio that is not occupied by the toddler.

Is this her first time seeing the photo? If she wanted the photo, if she was like, I want to hug the photo, you would just give it to her. You were allowed to take it. This is your home studio. You would say, Yeah, take it out of the office because it's no longer serving us. It's not in the background. Take it out of the office and put it in your room. You can have it. It's not serving anyone. It's supposed to be design. That's my granddad behind me. That's a photo of my granddad. Why would if Lulu, who is three, came in here and was like, I want that photo, why would I be like, Okay, puts it on the floor where my daughter should not be because it's a studio and this is not a playroom. It's just, Stop. Please just stop. I want Turning Point USA to, for once in their lives, do the right thing and pay me a monthly retainer to consult them on PR. To just say, No, no, no, no. Because I would have said to them, I said, Look, here's what you're going to do. Blame the housekeepers.

Blame the unknown housekeepers. You're rich. You've got money, a lot of money. We're talking billions from Pierre type money. Just blame the housekeeper, Erica. We didn't even notice that. We just had someone in to clean. I am going to fire the housekeeper. That's all I've ever done. But nobody pays me. Nobody pays me the big bucks. Even though they are lying about Gigi, we can now debunk my earlier suspicion that Charlie himself moved the photo because he did not. It is likely that he could not have moved the photo himself. The reason that they're lying is because they want to protect a person that is truly amazing, a person who is so terrific, who is so spectacular that we dare not even say his name without an He is he who must not be named without an adjectif. You know who I'm referring to? Because, broadly, despite the fact that this is Charlie's home studio, in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination, before Erica got in there, Mikey began doing media hits from it. What's he doing at the house? Nobody knows. What does he do for Charlie? Nobody knows. How did he become chief of staff?

Nobody knows. Anyway, one of our mommy's slews did find Mikey, McCoy, the Amazing, the marvelous Mikey, on November eighth, giving an interview to Real America's voice. You can see in the corner, there is no photo. There's no photo. It was already moved. If Erica was really seeing the notes on his desk for the first time in December because she hadn't been in the office in forever, as she told Glenn Beck, the marvelous McCoy could not relate. He's been there. He's been sitting at Charlie's desk. But then on top of that, and here's where we get to debunk the idea that Charlie moved the photo, they were hard launching Mikey. Remember I told you that Mikey was slated to take over for Charlie. They were doing it very hard and very quickly after Charlie's assassination. So hard and so quickly that another slew found him on September 22nd, seated in Charlie's chair at home. Now, this is just 11 days after Charlie's assassination, and it It also happens to be the same date that Erica was on that Zoom call telling the employees to button it up, get back to work. There's merge sales, there's hat sales.

It's what Charlie would want. Charlie is dancing in heaven, but only if you're at work working hard, you better work. If you want Charlie to dance in heaven, when she was given that whole sermon on that exact day, Mikey, the Amazing, shared a similar message with Martha McCollum on Fox News. You can see, just at the end of that, this little screenshot that Mikey, you see the photos in the background. I think Mikey got ahead of himself. Mikey the Amazing. Mikey the Marvel got a little ahead of himself, and it was messing up his vibe, and he moved it. That's Probably what happened. He's like, I can't really vibe out with Charlie's. He probably even put up his own photo, and they said, No, too hard, too aggressive, too soon. Anyway, we're only interested. There are so many red flags in this story. We don't need to pursue ones that potentially are not. Yeah, Mikey. I'm starting to like him, I think. When you start using adjectives to describe someone, the sci-op works. I don't let anybody say anything bad about Mikey, the amazing. Mikey, the Wonderful, Mikey the Spectacular. I stand the amazing Mikey McCoy.

The question now is whether or not they're going to keep gaslighting us and lying to us about Charlie and Erica. I still feel very strongly they had a light on the ninth. Also, I feel strongly that they probably will keep gaslighting us, at least at the Epstein file situation is any indication because we have been so aggressively gaslit over the last six months that sometimes you forget how audacious and how absurd and how positively traumatizing the manner in which our government just routinely lies to us actually is. Regarding the Epstein files, we should probably be in the streets revolting. We're probably due for a revolution or something. It's so bad that Republicans are sharing democratic tips. It's actually bringing us together because I think we all just hate the elites so much. The quote, unquote, elites, really the occult and the ball worshippers. I'm clearly not a Democrat. I'm actually not even a Republican. I retired from politics the day they took out Charlie Kirk and lied to us about it. But this Democratic representative, Jared Maskowitz, did a really good job recapping exactly What the Trump administration put us through with the Epstein files, gaslighting his own supporters after insisting that day one, they were going to give us access, they were going to tell us the truth, they were going to be the most transparent administration ever, holding up the binders.

Take it away, Jared Moskowitz.

It's been 12 months since you gave Republican Influencer's part one of the Epstein files. You said the list was on your desk. Then a memo came out and said that there was no list. Phase two of the Binders never happened. The President of the United States says the Epstein thing is a hoax. He blasts his own base for wanting the release of the files. He blamed Barack Obama. Republicans voted against the release of the files in the Rules Committee. Then they refused to even return to the Rules Committee until they could be protected from future It's 100 votes on the release. Speaker Johnson sends Congress home a day early before break. They sent the Deputy Attorney General to meet with Maxwell. She says something favorable about the President. Miraculously, she gets transferred to a minimum security facility. No one can explain explain why, miraculously, the leaks to the Wall Street Journal stopped. We come back from break. We have the Massey Discharge Petition. Republicans drop a rule, a non-binding resolution, trying to kill the Massey Discharge Petition. The White House says, Passing the Massey Discharge Petition is a hostile act. Trying to stop the necessary 218 signatures, according to Republican members that signed it, the White House brought them into the situation room, the place where the President goes for time of war, promising things like appropriations or maybe even to primary them.

People in the room say you were there. It didn't work. We get the 218 signatures. We eventually pass the Massey petition. You guys didn't release the files. You were forced by Congress. Every member of the House except one and the The entire Senate. The reason the President signed it is because it was a veto proof majority. We can't agree on anything. And yet the entire House but one member and the whole Senate forced the administration to release the files. Cash Patel, under oath, said to Senator Kennedy, The FBI is not in possession of any credible evidence that Epstein trafficked girls to anyone but himself. We know now that's not true. According to documents, Epstein had a worldwide sex trafficking ring. Girls from Poland, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Paris modeling agencies sending him girls. He even had a relationship with a summer camp where he groomed girls at a picnic table. Ghislaine Maxwell says 29 Epstein associates cut secret DOJ deals. Turns out there is a list. Six names readily available if you unredact them. Co-conspirators named, but we got them when you unredact them. Maxwell recently tells a house oversight committee that she wants Clemency to release more names.

Cash Patel under O said, Trump's name appears less than 100 times in the files. We now know that's not true. Trump's name appears more in the Epstein files than God's name appears in the Book About God. Okay, by the way, this is the Trump Bible. Move over King James. Trump's name also appears more times in the Epstein file than Harry Potter's name appears in the seven books about Harry Potter. Lutnik says that in 2008, he went to Epstein's home, says he had a massage table in the living room. But Epstein said he got one every day, that it was the right type of massage. He and his wife decide to leave and say they'll never be in a room with him again. Howard then says, I'm sure the Epstein stuff is on video. He was the greatest blackmailer of all time. Well, how would Howard know that? But now the fire is a public. And in 2012, we found out that he and his family are on Epstein Island after, after, after Epstein pled guilty to state charges. I'm from Florida. I take my family to Disney World, not to Epstein Island. There are documents in the files that dispute the President's claim that he kicked Epstein out of his club.

Allegedly, the President said that he asked Epstein to leave, supported now that that's disputed, though, by statements from the manager of the club. Now, Madam Retourne General, I have 25 seconds left. Because I'm curious, and I'd like to see, flip to the Jared Moskowitz section of the Binder, I'm interested to see what staff provided on the oppo on me. Because we're in the Olympics, I'm going to give it a grade. I just want to see how good it is. Give me your best one.

First of all, nothing is funny about locking the Bible and holding up a Trump Bible. That's what you did. You made a joke, and I find it nice. That's all I have to say.

I want it from the burn book. I want it from the burn book, which is the best one. What you got?

That's all she had to say to him. Shame. Shame. Shame on you for telling the truth about what we have put the public through, what we have put our supporters through, the people that believe in us who wanted to get to the answers, who took us to this line because we wanted to see how power works. Instead, we're protecting people that are in the files, Howard Lutnik is practically running Trump's administration, Bibi Netanyahu, I mean, Howard Lutnik is all over the world with Jared Kushner. He's just been protecting his homies, and she's got shame on you because you didn't. Actually, he did not mock the Bible in any way. That's what she's got. She's got a little bit more, too, by the way, because I guess she thought this was going to work. I actually appreciate this response, this next response from Pam Bondi, her perspective on it, because I think it's I appreciate it because it's honest. Take a listen.

They are talking about Epstein today. This has been around since the Obama administration, this administration, released over 3 million pages of documents, over 3 million. Donald Trump signed that law to release all of those documents. He is the most transparent President in the nation's history. None of them ask Merrick Garland over the last four years one word about Jeffrey Epstein. How ironic is that? You know why? Because Donald Trump, the Dow, the Dow right now is over... The Dow is over $50,000. I don't know why you're laughing. You're a great stock trader, as I hear Raskin. The Dow is over $50,000 right now. The S&P at almost 7,000. And the Nasdaq smashing records. Americans 401ks and retirement savings are booming. That's what we should be talking about. We should be talking about making Americans safe. We should be talking about what does a Dow have to do with anything? That's what they just asked. Are you kidding?

It's simply amazing. It's as amazing as Mikey McCoy, right? She She's just out there like, what is wrong with you guys? Okay, we're guilty. Guilty is charged. Yeah, Epstein is trafficking. It's a whole network. Everyone at the top is a monster. Yeah, they've been trafficking children, harming children. There's all this ball worship. We're referring to you guys as goyum and increasing your taxes, making things more dangerous, stealing from you effectively. Money has gone missing. But have you checked your 401k's? Guys, gas is down, 10 cents a gallon. Why do you care if we're harming children on islands? Why do you care so much? Are you good? That's what we should be talking about here. Gas. You know? You can get petrol now, and it's like 10 cents cheaper than it was during the Obama era. What's wrong with you guys? How much more do you need to be distracted so that we can go on worshiping Satan? I just don't understand. Please, let's talk about the Dow. Incredible. That's where we're at right now, guys. Up is down, down is up. Like I said, we are pretty much due for a revolution. I guess the Empire, it's supposed to be every 250 years before it crashes and burns.

It seems like we're doing that. I recommend you pull your children out of these schools. Very clear that they are everywhere and they are a cult of military. They are dangerous people. You don't deal with psychopaths that have this a conscience when you're talking about harming children, that they genuinely, she does not compute why they don't care about Dao. She doesn't even compute it. She's like, What do you mean? What do I mean? What do you mean? What do I mean? Yeah, you don't want to hand your kids over to people like that. Anyway, so much more that we will be uncovering and always interested to see with that same energy, are they going to continue to gaslight us about Erica Kirk? Are they going to continue to do the thing? I refer to her as a widow who's never done anything wrong? Some purity test. How dare you do this? How dare you destroy the empire of Turning Point USA? It's all Charlie was. It's all he was. He got up every day, and this is what he wanted to build. He was not a person outside of this. How dare you even question the very questionable things.

Have you seen gas prices lately? You have questions about Erica Kirk's background? Have you seen the Dow? Have you even opened your 401k? What's wrong with you? You're all monsters. Anyway, speaking of Turning Point USA, I got a very funny story about how as a part of how they wanted to get back at me, apparently, Alex Clarke demanded that Dylan Call, my sponsors, Paleo Valley, one of our show sponsors. We didn't hear this from our sponsors. We heard this from people that were fired from Turning Point USA and demanded that they decide, they pick me or Alex Clarke, because I had gone after her for dressing up in boots and standing over the memorial site of Charlie to pose for what was it, the Washington Post, whatever it was. I thought that was weird. That didn't feel right to me. She was upset about that, and I thought that was very funny. Anyways, this feels like a really good time to jump to ads. I feel like it's a great time to tell you guys about Paleo Valley, something that my team and I are always craving are their beef sticks. Paleo Valley makes their meat sticks with 100% grass-fed beef sourced from small-scale regenerative American farms so that you can feel good about what you're eating and what you're supporting.

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But if you got a tip, an actual tip, please give it to us. Getting into some of your comments from last episode. I'm sorry, the top comment from last episode was from Alia. She wrote, I don't know about anyone else, but if my husband was assassinated and I did not sleep beside him on the last night that he was alive, I would be absolutely shattered. Yeah, but have you thought about the merch sales? What's wrong with that person? Why did she even write that comment? That was a terrible Have you thought about the T-shirts that you'll sell? No, clearly, she didn't think about the T-shirt she would sell when she wrote that comment. Be better. We'll get into some more of your comments for today's episode. A reminder, we will be dark next week, so we will not see you until Monday, the 23rd. Comments from today's episode. Jess writes, How about this? We pray that in 2028, we see an Owens and Carroll or Coleman ticket. One can dream, Candice Go Max, Christ is King. It won't be Owens. I'll tell you that for free. It will not be Owens. I just think there is nothing authentic and real in DC.

The reason why I get along with these people so well, Carol and Coleman, is probably because they're not in DC and they're real people with real lives. I mean, does Coleman have eight children? I think he actually has eight kids. I'm not even making that up. Baren Coleman. I CZ. Fd writes, Candice, I follow your book club only, and I am buying and reading the books that you suggest. I think that you should add the book, The Tavistock Institute. Stop, stop. Yes, I want to read every book. That's the problem. I already know about Tavistock. I already know about the Beatles thing. The entire decade of the '60s was one big sigh up. But it's enough, I think, that we started with chaos. Then I encourage people to, If you want to go down a darker hole on this, you should read this and that. If you tell me about this book, then I'm going to be the one that goes down the dark hole. I'm already going down so many rabbit holes. Fine, you got me. I'll read it. I know how they social engineer their masses, and I know what Tavistock Institute was, and it's all very real.

It's all social engineering. Even making us watch an assassination, that's part of how they know we're going to feel and how they can all then get us to behave in a certain way. That's like 9/11. You watch it, and then they're like, We're all in this together. We've all experienced this trauma together. We're a family. That's that Erica stuff, to turning Point USA. We're a family now, and they can just engineer people to do things based off of their emotions, their raw emotions in those moments. It is a tried and true methodology. Next, we have Conor Finn writes, Thanks for selecting my comment yesterday, Skyler, making Candice laugh was priceless. Go on and buy yourself something nice. Thank you for that, Connor. I was just trying to be cool yesterday. Mary Everett writes, When someone leaks the info about the bullets being inscribed with trans stuff to Steven Crowder the day after the 10th, do you think that he was just a useful idiot, or do you think he knew he was shoveling out fedslop? I think he knew he was shoveling out fedslop. You also recall that he was the person who, after the Nashville shooting, magically got information and got the notebook, and that was another trans shooting.

It just keeps falling onto Steven Crowder's lap in the same way that TMZ just gets these things, and you wonder, okay, like I said, I'm just here to recognize patterns, and I I did not think that that was an accident at all. Want to glorify guide rights. I can't help but wonder, has there ever been a death investigation in history where the spouse lied once about the key details of her husband's death, much less many times, and was not, at the very least, considered a person of interest or suspect. Zero reason to lie. I agree with you, but we are a team Common Sense. Like I said, it's just time for them to bring her in. There's just so much smoke here. It's crazy. The stories are adjusting and changing, and they've got crisis PR team, and they're like, Andrew Kolbett did it. Gigi did it. Poor Gigi. What's happening here? And by the way, still nobody, not even on Tyler Robinson's defense team, you would think I would be number one they'd reach out to. They'd be like, her inbox the tips. I've got the names, the people who said this person lied. Here's where it was.

No, they're not interested. They are just not interested. They got their guy. They have got their guy, and it is Tyler Robinson with not a shred of evidence. They're the ones really going off of vibes in a dream, if we're being honest. Us flag pull writes, In Jesus's name, I command the truth to come forth now. May there be no defense that stands regarding Charlie's death. Starting now, all God's people say, Amen. Amen. Emily, an Irish writer, just to let you know you are a true inspiration. Your voice and messages all around the globe. I have been following you for He just, Keep up the good fight, sending prayers, strength, and love from rural Ireland. You should visit. I would love to go to Ireland. I would. My husband was like, Why do you guys, why do Americans have such a romantic idea of Ireland? I'm like, I don't know. Same reason that we have a romantic idea of England. That's why I married I don't know. You guys have beef? Is it still going on? Ireland, more than Ireland? I don't know. I'm not getting in it. I love Ireland. Nattie Nicole writes, I am sick.

Here I was thinking that I knew the full story already, but pictures, you have got to be kidding me. Well, someone will explain it online. It'll be a spokesperson will reach out to Newsweek and they will say, Oh, Gigi wanted the pictures. Gigi needed, I don't know. She wasn't here yet, but it'll be some weird thing about Gigi or Andrew Kolbett. Those are their two preferred methods of shoveling BS to us, it seems. And dear Libby writes regarding me saying, she's quoting me, I don't know what's wrong with me? I know. When I did it, he was so clear. I sat there and I watched Brian Coleman. He was so clear. He said, Do not, again, I'm going to say, Do not reach out to Gillian. I was like, What's wrong with me? Seriously. My mom is so correct. When I was a kid, I'm hard-headed. I am so hard-headed, man. I want to be better, and I'm going to be better when I come back. Just kidding. We'll see you guys Monday, the 23rd.