Transcript of More EXCLUSIVE Footage! Another Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Timpanogos Hospital… | Ep 400 New

All right, you guys, happy Thursday and also happy episode 400. I don't know, that just feels like a fantastic milestone, um, on this independent endeavor. I feel a little bit of pressure to make today's episode special. And Blakey Poo, I'd like to dedicate today's episode to you, girlfriend, because like, totally OMG, Candace is just like upset that Erica is a white woman that murdered Charlie or whatever. What? Honestly, in retrospect, the craziest part of his little rant yesterday was the random insistence that I hate white women. That was just so random. It just felt like an elephant clipping original fresh out of the Latvian nerds factory. Anyway, today we must sentence Blake Neff, right? I feel we must do that appropriately, of course, for the crime of speaking while being Blake Neff. That is illegal. And in this courtroom, the sentence is always the same: sentence you to more truth. And you know what, guys? Some more funny things happened on the way to the hospital on September 10th. And according to Frank Turek's recently dropped book— did you know that he dropped a book last month? I'm not so sure he remembers any of them.

Welcome back to Candace. You know what, guys? Blakey hurt my feelings yesterday. He called me so many names. I mean, he completely violated one of Charlie's cardinal rules of never engaging in ad hominem attacks. I mean, called me all sorts of things in that X space. He said I was wretched, nasty, absolutely awful. Claimed that I dislike other pretty women. He also called me illiterate thereafter on X. I just feel sad on the inside. I sad, Blake. Why do I have to deal with these elementary insults? I'm 9 months pregnant and still the attacks are unceasing. Where are his manners? Now I'll have you know that I'm actually an exceptional reader and a writer and an effective communicator, but most of all, I think my chief talent He's researching. Researching and creating official timelines, gathering intel. You know what, unfortunately for Blake, I've been researching September 10th extensively, and there are things that took place that day that register to me and the broader public as anomalies. I, I just cannot shake this feeling that we are not being told the entire truth. Also, um, Blake Neff, his existence in general, everything about what he says that day.

He can't remember what he was doing in Salt Lake City. Why was Danny Philip— another question I have— why was Danny Philip driving Blake like he was in an Uber ride? Blake in the back seat? That doesn't make sense. And after Charlie got hit, one thing that I cannot make sense of is why Blake Neff and Danny Philip didn't just immediately book it. To the hospital, to drive themselves over to the hospital. I mean, what, what other value add is Blake? You think he's gonna help with the investigation? Now, I wanna jog your memory here because first we were told by Blake the story about Mikey McCoy's quivering lip, a lip that quivered in a way that Blake would never forget, followed by an intimate conversation with Erica, followed by Mikey transforming into a battle Hardened general. Take a listen.

It was clear in the moment that he, he was profoundly freaked out. What I'll always remember is the way his, his lip was quivering, which I'd never seen before. And you, you very rarely see from someone that he was freaking out. And then I think he literally said to me, I, I might be imagining this, but I think what he literally said was, he's— and then he was looking around and then he says, I, I need to call Erica. And then he takes his phone, and he begins calling Erica, and I don't want to disclose how that call unfolded, but he did that— this, you know, your mind extends all of this, but that is happening within a minute of all of this occurring. I remember he calls Erica. I, around the same time, I pull out my phone and I call my mom just to say, Mom, there's been a shooting. You're going to see it on the news. I'm okay. You know, pray for me. I've got to go. And I remember that call. And around the time I put that phone away, and then he immediately calls his dad, he calls Robin McCoy, and he says, Dad, someone shot Charlie.

You need to call all of your pastor friends. Charlie was hit. We need everyone to pray right now. And that's what he told him. And I guess it's just, it's very disgusting for me as someone who witnessed this, who saw Mikey hugely distressed and then step up in the moment, because after that call was over, I saw Mikey like get total mastery of himself that he realized he had to step up in this situation. And he, from that point, he was like a general directing a battle where he was grabbing people and saying, okay, we need to get to the hospital and we need to do these things and you guys need to wait here. I need to get in here to get information so that I can get it to Erica. And when we learned he was dead, he came out and he told us and then he says, And he says, now, none of you can say anything that you've heard because it is, Erika is not going to hear about this from anyone except me.

Okay. So he's how old, Mikey? Early 20s, right? I think he did, like, was going to go to Liberty University and then decided to be Charlie's chief of staff. So we're talking really early 20s. Mikey is, uh, started working for Charlie as the chief of staff. Well, he was promoted in 2023. And I just always struggled with this version of events that Mikey somehow was the nucleus, right? This kid is, I gotta figure out what's happening, what's going on at the hospital. I'm gonna be the one that communicates to Erika. Who are you? Who are you? Also, who's communicating with you at the hospital? How are you getting firsthand updates from who, particularly at the hospital? Um, and when I hear that description, we gotta figure out how to— he's— you've gotta go here. It sounds like they were then going to immediately go to the hospital, right? We gotta figure out how to get to the hospital. And I, by the way, wanna say that that sounds like a journey that would have been really easy to figure out because they had 3 additional black SUV rentals in their possession. Here's a refresher on that.

Here's the map of cars. Okay. Now we know that that Yukon Denali is gone. Which was being driven by Christopher, but we have a Jeep Wagoneer, which was a security vehicle that was being driven by Alex Faria, Dan Flood. We've got the Lincoln Navigator, which was being driven by Justin Davis. You've got another Yukon Denali back there that was driven by Danny Phillips. So what's the issue? Why do we need to figure anything out? Let's go. Let's get to the hospital. We have no other value here. Check up, make, I guess you could say, you could check on the employees. That's not what they were doing. Then we discovered and revealed to the public that no, Mikey did not immediately go to the hospital. He actually gave an interview, a statement of sorts, to a woman from ICAC. ICAC stands for Internet Crimes Against Children. We had wondered out loud why that would be the correct person to be taking a statement from Mikey McCoy. Is he a child? Is he on the internet? By the way, I can tell you this, that woman, that officer has since left her position. By the way, her name is, uh, Fia Assisi.

Fia spelled F-I-A. Full name is Lafayette Assisi, and she is no longer doing that. But after that interview with her, what Mikey does is he dips into an SUV, presumably to make a phone call someplace quiet. I bet it was noisy. And when he reemerges, it's time to go to the hospital. And I was thinking still, You've got all of these extra rentals. I'm assuming the crew is just gonna jump in them. No, that's not what's gonna happen. But what other option do they have? You're probably imagining. I mean, can we all agree that it would be kind of weird if they instead tried to call an Uber rather than taking these very expensive per-a-day rental SUVs? Doesn't make any sense. It would make zero sense for them not to direct the remaining personal security team to drive them, or at least one. Of the remaining members of the security team to drive them to the hospital. But as we all know, nothing in this story actually makes sense. I mean, the story itself features magic bullets, Man of Steel necks. It can only continue upon a path of absurdity, right? So what happens next, I can show you, is that Blake and Danny Philip reappear upon the scene just before 1:00 PM local time, by the way.

Where were you, Blake? What were you doing all that time? Do you remember where you went, Blake, after Mikey's quivering lip? Because Mikey came back. Mikey's giving a statement. Where did you and Danny go? I want you to think about that. I know you're watching. I want you to think about that. In the meantime, I'm, I'm gonna explain to audiences what happens after you reemerge with your little group. What? Reemerge? You guys reemerge and then what happens is they are escorted by what appears to be federal officers into completely different vehicles. It's like Uber, but where the driver is a fed, is the best way I can describe it. And I don't want you guys to take my word for it. I want you to watch it. Seeing is believing. Here is Blake at first returning to the scene. You're going to see Danny McCoy and Nate Walker with him. And I mean, not Danny McCoy, pardon me, Danny Philip and Nate Walker with with him, and you're going to pay attention to that top right quadrant of your screen near the caution tape. We're going to go full on this. I'll let you watch it.

Take a look. And just so you guys know, we slightly enhanced this to make the images a little sharper on your screen in case people want to download this stuff. You can see, there you go, there's Blakey and Nate. And Danny and an officer. And that actually looks like that might be Jeff Long, Chief Jeff Long that's there. You can see the security. There's an open vehicle. Looks ready.

Okay.

Next up, we find our characters Blake Neff, Danny Philip, and Nate Walker, and security members Blake Harreth, Blake Gibson, and Charlie's driver, we, we have identified as Christopher Rhodes. More on him later. They're going to begin a group walk toward the back parking lot. It looks— it's a, um, employee parking lot that's just behind the Hall of Flags. Uh, and then you're gonna— they're gonna traverse through the admin lot, through toward what is a federal car lineup. And I'm calling this a federal car lineup before I show you guys this because they're— all the vehicles are white. And this, I have learned, is a federal officer thing. They drive these unmarked white vehicles. Um, you know what, Skyler, let's actually first take them through the map so they can see. Visually what's going to happen. Okay. So let's, uh, get into where the cars are initially parked right there. Okay. And then what they're going to do is they're going to come down. Yep. And you see that's a parking lot that's going to be right there. That L1 employee parking lot, they're going to kind of run through that over past the tree line.

Into, if you want to just kind of make a circle here, yeah, like past the admin parking lot. And there, there's going to be a ton of cars where you see that roundabout, a ton of like white vehicles all around here that are lined up. Okay. Again, this is just before, uh, 1 o'clock PM. We're going to show you that. And I'm showing you this because it's going to be a bit blurry. So let's, uh, first do this in a labeled slideshow and then I'll show you the actual videos.

Okay.

Here we go. So what you have here is there's Mikey McCoy, you have Nate walking toward him, and you also have Blake Gibson. And just behind him, let's go to slide 2, you're going to see that's Chris Rhodes, Charlie's driver. That is Danny, very easily identified because of his, his backpack. And that is Blake. So they're just behind them. Get to this next slide. This is what I was showing you sort of going toward the admissions lot. You— and they're kind of all just kind of under that tree. This is the route that they are taken— taking. You've got Nate Walker, Danny Philip, Blake Neff, and Mikey McCoy in this shot. And then making up the tail end, you have Christopher Rhodes and Blake Harreff. And we can go to the next slide. And then what happens is they divide into 2 Separate white vehicles. A lot of white vehicles. They divide into 2 separate white vehicles, which we're going to, we're going to show you. Vehicle 1, you've got Mikey, an officer, Blake Neff, Nate Walker, and Danny Philip. And in vehicle 2, you have the security team, Blake Gibson, Blake Carref, and Christopher Rhodes.

And again, the vehicle is being driven by an officer. Now we're going to watch this. I'm sorry if you're listening to this on audio, you are going to have to switch to video. It's a lot happening on the screen. We're going to watch them walking. I've already told you who the characters are. I'm just going to take this full screen. Let's first watch them begin to move away from behind the Hall of Flags. Take a look. You can see they're all starting to walk there on the left. Nate, Blake, Blake, a lot of Blakes in the story, 3 Blakes actually. And then you see Chris is making up that tail end, top left quadrant. Uh, that's Charlie's driver. Okay. Now let's go to video 2. You can see them coming across that back lot I just described to you. That's the employee lot. You're going to see Nate run up to Mikey. Mikey puts his arm around him. They're walking, and you can see Danny is making up that tail end with, like, Neff and Chris. They're going to keep going across this lot, and that's going to bring them to the admissions lot where you're going to see them just in the tree line.

There we go. There they are on that right-hand side, the whole crew. And in the next video, you're going to see that they're going to split and get into 2 Separate white vehicles. There they are. I probably put a, should have put a little circle for you guys, but I think you can see that where they are at least. And splitting to the left are Mikey and Blake Neff and Danny Philip with the federal officer. And on the right, getting into that white vehicle, I definitely should have given you guys a circle there. I'm sorry about that. What I can do is I can play it again for you so that you have it. Well, I guess you guys can rewind and you can see there are 2 white vehicles and then they're going to take off straight. Left hand, look at that top left quadrant. You're going to still see that that's Mikey and them getting into that white vehicle right there parked on the side. And then they're going to pull off and go straight. And that white car that's behind them is actually going to come around is where the security members, the car that's featuring the security members.

Guys, while I'm live, could you mind just circling the 2 cars they get into for like an honest still somehow so that I can show that to them later so they know what they're looking for? Um, the next time they run it back. That's totally fine. Yeah, take your time. Anyway, so in car number 1, by the end, as I stated, we have Mikey McCoy, we have Nate Walker, we have Danny Philip, and what appears to me to be a federal officer given the car. And we can confirm that they went straight to Timpanogos Hospital because the local news caught them arriving, and that's exactly who arrives. And it's about 1:10-ish PM. Take a look at this.

We have a lot of news still to cover here.

We want to show you live pictures which we've just gotten into the Fox 5 Atlanta newsroom out of Utah, where we're continuing to follow developments surrounding the shooting of Republican activist Charlie Kirk, who was on a campus nearby talking to students as he frequently does.

He is the leader of the Republican youth movement. President Trump called him instrumental in getting him reelected as president.

There was a shooting today, and Charlie Kirk's representatives confirming that he was shot and is being treated at this hospital. By the way, if anybody recognizes or— and can ID that police officer that's walking them into Timpanogos, who drove them, um, please email us at moretips@canisones.com. We would like to identify every single person in this story. My question, however, is where did group number 2 go? We've got missing security people that got into the separate white vehicle. We have Blake Gibson, we have Blake Harreth, and we have Christopher Rhodes. Can we actually pull up the, uh, map of the security team so people can refresh themselves on who Blake Gibson and Blake Harreth are? Um, Charlie's driver is not in the shot, but you've got Blake Gibson. He's the one with the slicked back hair. Um, and you have Blake Harroff, and they're in that car and they're with Chris, who was Charlie's driver. Where did they go? They weren't driving. It looks, looks to be another federal officer. And we don't see them arriving at the hospital with Blake, so we can safely assume that they didn't just follow them to provide further security.

Yeah.

They weren't like, okay, we're gonna make sure Charlie got hit, but we're gonna make sure that, you know, Blake, Neff, and Danny are safe. They're not with them walking into the emergency room. Where did they go? Especially since their rental cars are left behind at the UVU scene. And more crucially, I, I just want to point out, this is now after 1 o'clock PM. What, what's going on if they're not going straight to the hospital and escorting them and walking with them inside? What's going on? Why are 2 out of 3 of those security members— and this is the biggest question— why do they come back wearing scrubs? Remember, Blake Hereff, um, and Blake Gibson are going to come back wearing scrubs. That evening. But Christopher Rhodes, Charlie's driver, will not be wearing scrubs if they were all together. Christopher Rhodes, as we know, is the one who mysteriously went up to the rooftop with Nate Walker just before the shot, um, rang out. And he leaves his car wide open. Presumably he does not change into hospital scrubs. Why not if they're all together? I'm starting to wonder, and I will do so out loud, were the hospital scrubs actually even given to them by the hospital staff, or did they go somewhere else?

Were scrubs in general, which you can get your hands on and just purchase, handed out to them by federal officers? I'm wondering regarding the security. I'm wondering, maybe people have information about that, but I'd like to know where they went. Maybe they gave statements. They, maybe they went to a federal office and gave statements. Also, um, I'd also like to ask out loud, wonder out loud, why on earth these virtual kids, right, just fresh out of college— Nate Walker is like, what, the second assistant? He just started working. Mikey McCoy, okay, he's been there longer. He's super young. Danny Philip just started working in May. Why are they receiving this level of treatment at all? Why? If you're a federal officer and the assassination takes place, why would you be speaking to these first, second, and third assistants? Why are they not being immediately forced out of the investigation? If they want to go to the hospital, you got to find your own way there. Why are they being treated in this way where they are being personally escorted by officers to the hospital? Think of any other scenario, any other event. I've never seen that happen.

I'd be like, who are you? I'm sorry, this is a federal investigation. You're a third assistant, Nate Walker. I'm sorry, who are you, Danny? Why would I— why would I put you into a federal vehicle? And don't say, oh, because there are witnesses. Tons of people were witnesses, okay? They're not— they're going to the hospital to go see Charlie. How does that make any sense? Who, who made that call? That would make sense for his wife to receive an escort, not his third assistant. They're all— what are they all listening to, Mikey? The federal officer is listening to Mikey dictate? Okay. Who ordained him? I'd like to know who ordained him in that scenario where suddenly he's calling the shots like a general and you have federal officers escorting them to the hospital? And why? Doesn't make sense to me. If there's an obvious answer, please share it. Another note, by now you have probably caught on to the fact that we did make a positive ID on Charlie's driver, Christopher Rhodes, spelled with an A, R-H-O-A-D-E-S. I also want to be clear that there is another security member by the exact same name that works for the new security team at Turning Point USA, FRG Security.

That is not him. Do not email me about him. It's just the same name, 2 separate people. Rhodes is obviously a very common last name, so that's not suspicious at all. Uh, but the one we were looking for is Christopher Rhodes, and from what we gather, he appears to be from Texas and he is working with Brian Harpole. Um, I'll— I will leave it at that. He's working with Brian Harpole. Still weird, I will say, because that was the very first person that we've ever tried to identify on the show. with so much difficulty. That— I know he's involved in private security and in that world, but that was very, very strange. More on that later. I mean, I'm sure some people must have grown up with him in Texas. If you know anything, I would love to get in touch with Christopher Rhoades. If you can establish some connection between me and him, please reach out. I'd love to get answers as we continue to investigate this. More tips at candaceowens.com.

Calm.

Anyway, your move, Blakey. Your move. 'Cause you, you just, it, it sounded like you guys were rushing to the hospital, and I don't think that really was the circumstance. Actually, I, I can verify it wasn't the circumstance. So was Mikey coordinating the fed stuff? Was it Danny? Was it you? Think carefully before you answer. You guys, we are gonna be right back after a break because Frank Turek has dropped a book that we need to go over because his memory is, it's getting spotty again. We'll be right back. All right, you guys, do you feel like you're working harder than ever but still falling behind every single month between grocery prices, bills, and credit card debt growing? It can feel impossible to get ahead. Minimum payments are not designed to get you out of debt. They're actually designed to keep you stuck, but PDS Debt can help. They can reduce up to half of what you owe on credit cards, personal loans, and medical bills. And it starts with a free 30-second assessment at pdsdebt.com/candice. Stop juggling multiple payments and get one lower monthly payment. If you're carrying any balance on your credit cards, it's costing you money every single day.

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And when I say slight, I mean not slight at all, massive changes. Let's read this first excerpt. I hear a loud pop and see Charlie go down. I yell, no, no, no, as I take a step toward him, but a security team is already there, so I run along with them to the SUV that we had arrived in. Meanwhile, my son and daughter-in-law are hearing all of this live as I instinctively shove my phone into my back pocket without hanging up. Fearing this would happen one day, I told myself in advance that if it ever did, I would do whatever I could to help Charlie. He was like a son to me. So I crawl into the back of the SUV trying to help in any way I can. Charlie's security team, Justin, Dan, Brian, and Rick, men who loved Charlie too, are much cooler under pressure than I am. They calmly but swiftly do exactly what they were trained to do. While I'm perched over the back seat looking down at Charlie and yelling, that was my special skill. Justin is driving. Dan is in the passenger seat holding his phone with directions to the hospital.

To my left, Rick is in the back with Charlie's head in his lap, and Brian is to my right. At the other end of 6-foot-4 Charlie, whose feet are hanging out the open back right door. I'm not sure how Brian manages to stay in the SUV as we yank and bank our way to the hospital. Just gotta get it in there. Door open, no sirens, no emergency lights, just raw adrenaline. When we get about halfway there, an ambulance is barreling toward us in the opposite direction from the hospital. We debate stopping for half a second, but think better of it and press on. Justin hits the gas as we barge through intersections like traffic laws were merely suggestions. That's when someone recalls just enough self-preservation to yell, let's get us there in one piece. In the back, Rick and I are praying out loud while urging Charlie to respond. All 3 of us in the back are trying to stop The bleeding. Wait, hold on. All 3 of us are still trying to stop the bleeding. That's a problematic statement, Frank, because you did not try to stop the bleeding. You've never made that claim that you tried to stop the bleeding.

Brian Harpole certainly has never made that claim that you tried to stop the bleeding. Um, this is actually, I would say, in stark contrast to Brian Harpole's account. This is not something That you can tell us that you forgot or simply got wrong, or you had different accounts. This describes some— someone is lying. Okay. You either tried to stop the bleeding, which we were told it was just Brian. He says he got to work, he's packing the wound, um, said that there was no CPR, that he's the one that's trying to stop the bleeding. He doesn't even say Rick Cutler is trying to stop the bleeding. But you wrote in your book that all 3 of us are in the back. Trying to stop the bleeding. That's weird. That's wrong. You were supposed to be just praying in the backseat. Now you claim in a published and an edited book that no, you got to work on Charlie. That's a discrepancy that I cannot allow. Let's listen to what Brian Harpole said on Sean Ryan.

The problem is we're going down the road and Charlie's so tall that his leg, his left leg, is down in the door and the door won't close. And so I'm on my knees with the door open with my butt hanging out of the side, and I'm on my knees doing the medical. And Justin's driving, you know, we're going 60, 80, 100. And Rick has me across the kit and my shirt so that I can use both hands to do the medical on. So you don't fall out of the fucking car. So I don't fall out. And I just look at him and I don't need to say, you got me? He's got me. I know he's got me. Rick's a brother. He's got the tattoo. And so I was like, yeah, he's got me. And so I'm just working medical and Frank's praying out loud. Rick's praying out loud.

When did you try to stop the bleeding, and how did you try to stop the bleeding? Because now we have to imagine that Brian blacked out the entire ride. Like, that's the only way for him to have completely forgot that you not only helped to stop the bleeding, but also for the last 30 seconds, Or so, the last minutes, couple of minutes, whatever it is that you said. You also said you provided CPR, but Brian was distracted. Well, how distracted was he? He didn't even notice that you were trying to stop the bleeding first. Again, does not make sense to me. Let's keep reading. All 3 of us were in the back, are, are still trying to stop the bleeding. I switched to CPR. So we're supposed to imagine 3 of them are trying to stop the bleeding, and then Frank switches to CPR. Brian's gonna black out at this point. But Charlie isn't there. His eyes are fixed. He isn't looking at me. He's looking past me right into eternity. We burst into the hospital yelling for help into what felt like an empty emergency room. And for an agonizing minute, no one seemed ready.

We're yelling for help. Then within a couple of minutes, a medical team descend on them, descend on him. They get a pulse, a flicker of hope. They rush him to an operating room. Okay, so couple of things right off the bat that registered to me as odd. This is now in a published book. You had no recall or mention of a fire captain doing CPR, which was revealed by the independent review. Where, where's that part? You, by the way, I do wanna say I fully believe you on the hospital being empty. As we said, it's been alleged that they moved everybody out a couple of hours before for reasons that are not yet clear. Also, if you're saying, and again, you're writing this, you're editing this, you're thinking through this, we can't— this isn't a simple mistake. It's not like you're speaking it. You, you are writing a book and documenting your experience. You say you switched to CPR. Nobody else remembers, but you curiously leave out the fire captain. Who's the fire captain? Who is the fire captain? Where is the fire captain in this narrative? And then you tell us that a medical team descended on him and they, they got a pulse.

There were—

there was a flicker of hope. They rushed him to an operating room. I remember learning that that was actually what Brian did. Brian. Found the room, that Brian— and I don't think he could do this in 2 minutes— cut the shirt, got there ready for the defibrillator, that Brian then escorted himself out of the room. I don't know, these details are getting a little bit hazy for me. Let's keep reading. I'm also going to correct a typo in this book. He says, I embrace Don. He's misspelled it for this little section. He's referring to Dan Flood. I embrace Dan Flood. The head of Charlie's security, and tell him that this is not his fault. Dan's team only had jurisdiction over Charlie's immediate area. That is a printed lie. That's a printed lie. The local and university police were supposed to have secured the larger areas, including the rooftops. That is a printed lie. Dan later showed me a text confirming exactly that. Similar breaches of security that we saw in Butler, Pennsylvania tragically came to Utah that day. Rick and I continue to pray out loud. Now, we had showed you, um, a few days ago when he went on to Brandon Tatum's show and he said sort of this narrative and then quickly shifted.

He said, yeah, in the hospital Dan showed me the text between him and, um, Chief Long. And they said he actually showed it to me a couple of days later. That seems to be like a crucial detail. When did he show you this text? Because It shouldn't have been that soon. We didn't know that it was Lozi rooftop. Nobody at the hospital should have known that the shot came from a rooftop that quickly because they were still investigating. It could have come from the audience, it could have come from the side. Nobody knew anything at that time. So it would be very odd if Dan showed him that message at the hospital. But of course, with Frank, the details change. It gets hazy. He says later, we don't know how much later. He continues, soon Charlie's chief of staff, 23-year-old Mikey McCoy, arrives at the hospital. Like Charlie, he carries a maturity far beyond his years. Mikey has already sent a plane to get Erica and is on the phone with the United States Vice President, J.D. Vance. About 30 minutes after our arrival, the surgeon from the OR steps into the hallway Where we're all standing, his expression's like stone.

He sternly announces he's dead. No, no, I'm sorry. No, we tried everything. Just the verdict delivered with all the tenderness of a brick. He then demands to talk to Erica on the phone, perhaps hoping to practice the bedside manner he seemingly forgot to use on the rest of us by delivering the news to the grieving widow himself. Now, when Blake tells the story, it makes it seem like Mikey is the one that delivered the news to Erika. Blake just told us, he said, no one's giving any information to Erika. I'm gonna be the one to call her. Uh, Frank is not clear here as to whether or not, uh, Mikey is there when they find out the news from this surgeon that Charlie is dead. According to my timeline, Mikey should not have been there for that announcement. So I'm not sure if this is meant to be chronological, but Mikey and them shouldn't— should have arrived just after, according to our timeline, because Victor Marx had already tweeted out that Charlie was dead, um, announced rather that Charlie was dead onto his social media accounts. And like I said, this just in general conflicts with Mike— with Blake's earlier assertion that Mikey was the general.

Mikey was the conduit of information. Everything had to come through Mikey, and he was the one that was providing the updates. For what it's worth, between the two of them, I believe Frank on this. I, I think the surgeon was the one— that's, that's what I was told, that he was the one that called Erica with the news. And yeah, I'm gonna keep it at that. But there are a lot of conflicting stories in this narrative, and it makes me very uncomfortable that Frank just cannot remember what happened on the way to the hospital. It makes me uncomfortable. That seemingly, uh, a VIP, um, red carpet was rolled out for effectively a bunch of just graduated college kids doesn't make sense to me. It makes me wonder why it took so long for them to get to the hospital. And I'm referring to Nate and Blake and Mikey. If you're going to be his assistants, why are they hanging around? And like I said, Who ordained Mikey on that day? If the story is true and he was the point person for all things, the question is who permitted that? And that keeps happening. It's like, it's like the feds were listening to the team rather than the other way around.

'Cause don't forget, Frank then tells a story that he's the one who told the feds that he'll be taking Charlie's necklace from the car. That's what he said. We actually received a different tip about that necklace, and I'm told it was a totally different version of events that took place at the hospital, not, um, when Frank went back to the car to grab his backpack and then said, there it is, there's the necklace that we've all been looking for, for some strange reason. But I'm still hunting down information and I wanna make sure that I'm 100% when I deliver it. So I will ask anybody. Regarding Timpanogos, again, if you know who the fire chief was— the fire captain, pardon me— fire captain that administered CPR to Charlie at the hospital, please, we would like to hear from you. Again, we want people that have information. I know we know how to research, and we obviously have it down to a very small pool of individuals that it likely was. We want concrete information. Who was the fire captain? That I work with him. I want somebody to say I'm married to him. I'm— it's— he's my cousin.

He was the one that did CPR that day. That's the information that we're looking for so we can confirm. We are down to 2 possibilities, but we want an absolute confirmation. You can email us moretips@candaceowens.com. Um, we'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, imagine it's 3:00 AM, you're fast asleep, and suddenly you hear a noise in your house. What's your move? I mean, naturally you'd freak out a little, start fumbling with the keys to your safe, and maybe think, okay, where did I put my firearm? And that is exactly why I started using the Stopbox Pro, and it has been a game changer. Stopbox makes secure storage simple and accessible, so there's no temptation to leave your firearm unsecured just because a traditional safe feels like a hassle. No keys, no batteries, no electronics. It's completely mechanical with a 5-button interface that's designed for muscle memory. Your firearm stays secure while you maintain controlled access when you need it, and it's made right here in the USA. And if you need more storage, check out the new Stopbox UCan, a same mechanical locking system with more room for your firearm, your ammo, and the rest of your gear.

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Um, that's— these are— that's the police undercover vehicles, fed vehicles. And we know that they get into 2 of them and pull off. Interesting. Why? Why can't the security drive themselves? Why is everyone being treated like a federal VIP on this day? For what reason? Why are they coming back in scrubs? We need answers. And I think we have some answers. Top comments from yesterday's episode. Blake speaking again on a live murder. I meant to say— I said married. Okay. Blake done neft up. I love that. Blake done neft up again, every single time. So Andrew said guilt instead of grief. We're processing our guilt. Erica said grift instead of grit. That is true. Blake said murdered instead of married. I wonder who will be next to make a slip. God does work in mysterious ways. The truth needs no campaign. It always comes, comes out in the end. Absolutely, I agree with you. I can actually show you guys, in case you never saw that— we didn't show it on the show— when Erica said grift instead of grit while she was Introducing the president of UVU, Caleb Chilcutt, at AMFest 2025. Caleb Chilcutt, a rising senior and chapter president at Utah Valley University, has been involved with Turning Point USA since 2023.

Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same grift— excuse me, gift. Grit. It has been a long day. Trust me, you're not a grifter, honey. It's all good. Yeah, it is something when they misspeak. It sure is something. Comments from today's episode. Alaska Dog Lady writes, happy 400 from your OG gang. The Qatari money crowd seems to forget hand-signed Kistandis cups. I have one. And Manect, I remember that. This is the OG crowd. Way to grind. Truth grows organically. God bless, and Saint Joan of Arc, pray for us. Christ is King. Thank you so much for being along on the journey. We have more exciting news that I'll tell you in a bit, but, um, we're just really grateful for the audience and the loyalty that you guys have given us. Someone needs to take away the internet from Turning Point at this point. It's great to see you laughing. I feel like you get the giggles every time you're pregnant. God bless you and your family. We ride at dawn for Candace. You have an army. They have She who must not be named.

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Actually, this is true. I walked into your kitchen and there was some lady from behind who was like making something on the counter or something. And I was like, oh dang, they got a little thickie in here. They got a little lady from Atlanta working over here. And then I didn't— I forgot you were pregnant and he turned around.

And it was me.

And it was you.

I didn't even hear you say that. I'm a little—

no, I didn't say it out loud.

No, I don't mean it in your head.

Yeah, I said, oh dang, they got a little—

now you said it out loud. Dang, girls love you. What the heck?

Yes. Where are they?

There's a lot of them. I get like text messages, I get Instagram stuff. God, you're, you're in your prime. You gotta go out there.

I gotta get out there.

Yeah, you gotta find your— you gotta get out there.

Shit, I was gonna take a nap later. I'm not now. I'm getting on my bike. It was like kind of a farmer's only dating thing or whatever, but I think it was— Oh, farmer's only. Not dark, darker farmer women. Or tanned farmer women. And you were like the most tan on there.

Oh, me?

Yeah, it was just a conservative female dating site or something.

What?

Having to count on darker farmer women?

Look, I don't think it's a bad look.

No, that's so crazy.

No, pull that up. You make it sound very negative. No, it's a good place for people to meet people.

Why are you on these websites?

I'm not on them all the time.

He is absolutely hilarious, truly. And yeah, thank you to the millions of you guys who have already watched that episode. Um, where was I? Namari. Namari, I hope I'm saying that right. God bless you, Candus, your team, your family, and everyone who has come forward to share information. I pray people stand for truth, for truth lies in Jesus Christ. You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. Amen. John 8, everyone. Candus, I'm so confused with the behavior of Blake Neff, Andrew Colva, and Erica Kirk. It's almost like they don't want facts about what happened to Charlie. Blink twice if I am close, LOL. Enjoy Enjoy the little one. God bless you and yours. I mean, from the beginning, that's what it's felt like. It's like they just never wanted it to be investigated, and people obviously register that as weird. And that's why I say a war on reality is an appropriate title. I just don't think Frank Turek should be the author of that because it— they have been the people that have launched this war on reality, trying to tell us like, no, what she's doing is normal. Everybody— or everybody grieves differently, and by not grieving, she's actually grieving.

And it's normal that she's taken over his company and she has no experience, and it's normal that she didn't— feel any fear right afterward, or that she didn't want to keep her children away from it, not knowing, um, who the killer was. It's normal that she forgave the killer and can't forgive Drewski. None of it's normal. And so that is the war we're fighting. That is, we are the people that are seeing reality for what it is, asking questions, and their response is just, well, we've got the power and we know people in government. We know the officials. We've got the president on speed dial. We get escorted by feds if to go to the hospital. Um, Yeah, that's kind of— it's just sort of gross. This is clearly Turning Point 2.0 is nothing like Turning Point USA 1.0, which was a grassroots movement and that people, people and students followed and wanted to believe in and believing that the country could be changed. Now we're learning the country can be changed in the most spiritually dark ways. People that are handpicked, it feels like they just kind of put the Midas touch on Erica.

Who is Midas? I don't know. Someone in Vegas, if I had to guess. The more unhinged Blake Neff gets, the more flamboyant he becomes. He does. He's a little— that's the right word. Blake is flamboyant. He's just a girl from the valley and he wants to gossip with the girls. He is obviously not somebody who could ever take over the Charlie Kirk Show. I think that deeply upsets him. Like I said, he clearly had a mother who loves him greatly, told him that he was talented in ways that he most certainly is not. I mean, Blake is— in, in a way, he's impressive. I would describe him as impressive. He leaves an impression. That's that. That's all I can say. That's all I could offer. Keep up the great work, Candace. Sending you prayers and love from Ireland. You are an inspiration, continuing to shine the bright light of honesty and hope in this rough world. God bless you and yours today and always. Thank Thank you so much for saying that. Um, it's been a journey, but you know, we are, we're getting somewhere. And I can't, I can't believe that we've got people in Latvia that just gave us everything we need to know about this guy.

I know way too much about the Latvia nerd because all of the sleuths in Latvia were just sending me this. They're like, here's his mama, his data, his, where he used to work and think and blink. And it was amazing. I just, I love that all over the world people are writing in and, um, we're gonna continue to ask you to do that. The information has obviously pro— uh, proven to be fruitful.

Yeah.

Even if we don't respond, you see that we're presenting the information and crediting our sleuths, Back at home. I want to remind you guys, if you'd like to support the show, the easiest way to do that is by getting some merch on the website. Buy yourself a hat. Join the decentralized intelligence agency, which operates in every country all around the world. Probably not in Israel, if we're being honest. I don't think it operates in Israel, but everywhere else it seems that we do operate, and the information, like I said, has been fruitful. I told my priest that I would chill. That's a great hat to wear when you just need to chill and you need to calm down and not do the thing that you want to do. Just take a deep breath and remind yourself that you told your priest that you would chill, and then chill. Um, also want to add again, just to remind you guys, the information that we are looking for. I would love to learn a little bit more about Christopher Rhodes and to establish connection. Maybe he watches the show, who knows? Somebody knows him. I just want information.

I— and I'm sure that there are many leads here and questions that I have that can be reasonably answered. I don't know why nobody wants to reasonably answer them. People just want to threaten and file lawsuits, and that does not make you look like you are innocent. When you have the option and Candus texts you, Brian Harpole, and asks a very simple question, you can just say no. And you instead opt to file a lawsuit and claim, well, I didn't answer that question 4 times when I was asked it because I didn't want to contribute to more views. Like, who are you? Like, you think you're like, like Celine Dion, right? You, you can't even form a proper sentence. I was doing the medical. I feel like anybody that says I was doing the medical should not be doing any medical. Like, if I was going to go in for a surgery and the doctor was like, I'm okay, I'm going to do the medical. I was like, ah, no, no, no, you will not be doing anything to me, sir. You will not be administering any drugs. Nothing at all. Get me someone I can speak to.

I'm just gonna do the medical.

Open your mouth.

Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, dentist. I'm good. Nope. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Doesn't seem like you know what you're doing. Don't even know what you're saying. Anyways, let me stop before I get double sued by Brian Harpole. We will, uh, we'll see you guys on Monday. Lust auf einfach guten Kaffee, wann immer du willst? Bekommst du mit den Qubo-Kapselmaschinen von Tchibo. Denn das ist Kaffee in seiner besten Form. Qubo verbindet ausgewählte Kaffees aus besonderen Anbaugebieten mit innovativer PressBrew-Technologie für vollmundigen Geschmack und samtige Crema. Ob Espresso, Kaffee Crema oder Caffè Grande, du hast die Wahl. Qubo liefert Kaffeevielfalt auf Knopfdruck mit Gelinggarantie. Entdecke jetzt die Qubo-Kapselmaschinen von Tchibo.