Transcript of EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE: Caught Red-Handed Doing WHAT With Critical Evidence?! | Ep 378

All right, you guys, happy Wednesday. Have to tell you right at the top here, I am exhausted today. Truly, the child that I am currently growing decided to wake me up at 4 o'clock in the morning. He was having some description of a dance party in the womb. I mean, 4 AM without a care in the world, like, he was at a club. Late pregnancy gets so weird. I mean, just like at all times you have to consider another human that is living its own life inside of you, just occupying your space. I was explaining how odd this phenomenon is to my team, and of course Skyler then thought of the most male-coded analogy. He's like, oh, like this guy from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. And yeah, like babies are cuter, but yeah, it is like, it's like they control, they decide. There's no going back to sleep, but somebody's having a dance party inside of you. It was completely crazy. So I, I am tired. It's strangely accurate. I gotta give Skyler some credit there. That's what it feels like. Anyway, I got a strange press request today. Blake Neff is now entering the foray.

Um, he's speaking to reporters and wants everyone to know that I'm just jealous of Erica. How is he a real person? That's what I know. I want to know how Blake Neff exists. What, what are the laws here governing society? I just like— how are you a real person? This feels made up. It feels cartoonish, like It's like so teenage. Oh, would you say everybody's jealous of Erica? Anybody that critiques her— Sean Ryan, Joe Rogan— this is consensus. Is everyone just— you're just jealous. It's like Mean Girls or something. They're also now pushing the same talking point that I'm now somehow working in coordination or support of, I guess, the aims of Hasan Piker, because don't I realize that Charlie died so that we could blame the left? Absent any positive evidence, and just unite the party behind the death. I mean, it is unimaginably dark that they keep repeating this talking point and not realizing what it actually conveys. Anyway, I have a surprise for you. Gotta get you through this hump day with some more footage. So welcome back to Candus. Okay, you know what I realized? For those of you who watched Game of Thrones— yeah, where are my Game of Thrones people on HBO?

I actually am so shocked when people say they didn't watch it. It was very good. I mean, maybe not the ending, but a lot of it. I'm basically like the Arya Stark character. I can relate to Arya Stark. Don't worry, I'm gonna briefly describe to you, broadly speaking. Okay, great. Game of Thrones is about You've got these warring kingdoms led by leaders from different realms with all different kinds of personalities, from clinical psychopaths and murderers to honorable households, all competing to be, like, the ruler of the Seven Kingdoms. Anyway, this is a spoiler alert ahead. I mean, you've had, I feel like, decades to watch it, so I don't feel bad, but Arya Stark is from the household that conducts matters fairly. There's, um, kind of the household that you root for. There's no tricking and scheming and plotting to try to get to the top. And at the beginning of the series, she's just sort of this happy kid. It sort of goes through a lot. And her family, while she is on the way there, is attending a wedding in a neighboring kingdom. It's supposed to be a night of celebration that turns into an absolute slaughter just as she arrives.

Suddenly, her mother and her brother and his pregnant bride. Everyone gets locked into this dining hall and just murdered. Uh, again, it's supposed to be a celebration. Murdered. And Arya manages to escape. Now you have to imagine how that messed a young Arya up, looking at her brother being paraded around, beheaded, um, after being betrayed. Can you imagine? I can imagine. I don't know. I can kind of a little bit imagine. That's fantasy. This is real life. Anyway, this sort of reshapes her destiny, her entire purpose. It fashions her purpose, so to speak. While everyone, every other character throughout the series is sort of fixated on becoming the ruler of the Seven Kingdoms via politics and deceit, Arya sort of has this one-track mind to avenge what happened that night against the liars who lie about everything. For power, are willing to do anything for power. Arya's basically just focused because great acts of evil should not just be forgotten about. That's kind of the theme of her character. You shouldn't just move on when innocent people are murdered. So I resonate with that. Anyway, yesterday I demonstrated to you all that Teryl Farnsworth, he lied to me.

That's just a fact. He lied to me about not knowing how to send a clip Crazy that he even said that. Also about a fear that Google was going to hack him. Double lie. And that hurts me because I actually came into that conversation so genuinely. I was like, once I speak to him, I can clarify matters for people because I know who that is, and he's been on Charlie's team for 10 years, and he'll clear this up, and then I'll use my platform to explain to everyone what actually happened. And I should also tell you that after I had that strange conversation with him and didn't feel good about it, I repeatedly expressed that to Andrew Colvett in the days that followed because I trusted Andrew Colvett, Crazy Candus, at this time and, uh, was kind of saying to him— not kind of, I said to him explicitly— you guys should just release that back footage. I don't understand. Now that I've seen it and there's no gore, what is the issue with just releasing the back footage? Uh, remove suspicion. Why live with the public wrongly believing that you had anything to do with the assassination if you quite literally hold the means to dispel those rumors?

I would have released that footage so quickly, same day. Footage is already going on around. This is not gory. Here you guys go. Sadly, alas, Andrew told me that they couldn't because of law enforcement. Here's a text chain from September 24th. I said, something that I can't get off my mind is why was Teryl there hovering around Charlie? I've literally never done any campus event where Terrell is just hovering behind us like that. It's just so odd to me that he's there and constantly hovering. He came back and said, I have zero concern about Terrell. He's done that at a lot of events, okay? And he usually starts the tour seasons to make sure they are well set up. Well, it seems to us that that was new as we went back and looked at footage. Certainly not in any tour I've been on. I said back to him, I don't get why not just release the footage then. It's just such a nonsense not to release the footage and clear your name. Like, if the whole world suspected that I was implicated in a crime and I had literal video footage that could clear my name, I would immediately release it.

I don't get the logic. And he said, that's in the preview of law enforcement. He meant in the purview of law enforcement. Again, it, it's difficult for me to imagine accepting if it was in the purview of law enforcement, accepting a scenario where I would not just release, or at the very least attempt to leak footage that would clear my name. I mean, because you imagine it's like, I literally have footage that I didn't do this thing that people think I did, or think that I was being weird at, and just like law enforcement's like, yeah, but don't release that. Why would they say that? Also, what right would the federal government or responding officers in Utah have to your personal property outside of a warrant, right? Everyone was posting clips from their phones. Everyone was recording that day. That's actually how we all watched Charlie's final moments, right? People were recording it. A police officer can't just go up to you and say, your phone is now in the purview of law enforcement. They can certainly ask you to share the footage willingly, and you can and should comply with that if it's helpful to find, um, a criminal.

I know I would. I'd say like, yeah, here you go, take— how can I help? I want to help solve this. They can't demand it without a warrant, right? Am I missing something here? Anyway, yesterday we showed you that Terrell, um, pocketed that SD card. We were all wondering, um, what he did with it, and he pocketed it before he began texting on his phone. His mannerisms are— he's looking around. It's hard to forget that he is the first one who declared Charlie is dead And then all of that within 4 minutes. He's, he's taken that footage down, 4 to 5 minutes, he's around the bend, got it in his pocket, texting. Well, today we can share with you my very own October surprise. I call it an October surprise because I've had it since October. I've had it since October. I've been interested in Terrell since October, well, since September when I spoke to him and he just— it just felt off.

Intuition.

And, um, like I said, there were good guys in government working behind the scenes. And what I learned is that after he pocketed that, he then pretty immediately opened up his laptop. And apparently, in my opinion, that's what I observed with my eyes, sticks the SD card in. For what reason, I don't know, but I'll let you make up your own mind. Take a look. You're listening to this on audio. Here is, uh, Terrell. He's bending down and he's opening his laptop, and he's certainly sticking something into his laptop as he turns on to his— this, um, his computer. He's reaching in his phone, he's texting with somebody. And, um, yes, some people might be noting that Lane Schoenberger's on the side washing his hands. That makes sense. Don't think too hard about it. He did help carry Charlie into the car, so he's likely just getting blood off of his hands as any person would after that. Um, you— but you see Terrell, and again, he's texting. He picks up the laptop, and what happens thereafter is he sits facing the other direction and continues onto his laptop doing what I don't know. I don't know.

What do you guys think? Like I said, he's first to declare that Charlie is dead because he says he was right there, he just saw, and that, that was likely going to be the conclusion. Okay, I accept that. He then immediately processes that or goes to grab SD cards an SD card, one SD card, puts it into his pockets, races to his laptop. This is all happening within 10 minutes of Charlie getting hit. 10 minutes of Charlie getting hit, according to my source in government, which I trust. I trust this person. I've trusted this person for a while. Any of that feel normal to you? Filming yourself running, uh, securing— particularly at first— the SD card from behind Charlie's head, looking both ways, putting it in your pocket, grabbing your laptop, and allegedly— maybe it looks to be like putting that SD card into that laptop? Why? You've secured it. We were told from Andrew he was doing this because people can be evil. Okay, why do you need to get on your laptop? Because people can be evil. What's going to happen? It's in your pocket. Why can't you just hand that over to the police if it's evidence and you're trying to be helpful?

Just hand the SD card over to the police. They were there. I mean, that's the Turning Point USA narrative, that he was just grabbing SD cards to secure the evidence. But he had already secured it. Why do we now need a laptop? Law enforcement, again, I would like to stress, they know how to use an SD card. The feds know how to use an SD card. The FBI knows how to use an SD card. The local police, the UBU police, everybody knows how to use an SD card. I can guarantee you that. It's not for me to decide. The why, right? I'm just being transparent. My goal is just transparency. Now, were I Andrew Colvett, I would be upset that Teryl perhaps misrepresented his aims. I, I'd also would maybe like to know why he appears to be so nervous, uh, who he's texting as he keeps doing this with— it's just a lot of texting in between. Um, we can't infer— well, we can under Utah 11-02. We can infer. You could say, like, is somebody telling him what to do? Grab that camera, do this, upload it. We can ask questions. Is Andrew Colvin going to ask questions?

Uh, nah. I'm gonna imagine, Aaron, uh, that Andrew won't be too bothered by it at all. He's going to instead issue another round of attacks on me. That's my guess. But the reality is that we were told that there was nothing special about the camera behind Charlie's head, and I would argue that there clearly was. So special, in fact, that I'm now going to demonstrate to you something that I didn't catch earlier. Terrell actually steps over the camera which was designated to capture the crowd the camera that was being operated behind Charlie, that's kind of on that little turntable, if you will. He steps over that camera to get to the camera behind Charlie's head. Again, I hadn't realized this before. So remember, we had showed you this camera diagram just to give you a visual here. Here it is again. So we have red camera behind his head and yellow— I want to point that one out— that camera, the yellow one is going to fall. Pay attention to it. It goes down actually right after, uh, Charlie is taken away. It sort of just gets knocked. And again, according to Terrell's 11:02 statement, we know that that's filming the audience, in particular the individuals that are asking questions.

So it's going to fall to the ground. I'll show you that right now. It might be— again, because it seems to be on a rotator. Bam. Okay, so it's just under now. It's just under the footage behind Charlie's head. So when Terrell appears approximately 3 minutes later to take the SD card from behind— from the camera behind Charlie's head, he steps over it, steps over the yellow camera, and therefore he is stepping over its encompassed SD card. And then he disappears behind the tent. Take a look at that. It's on the floor, it's right there. Takes a— see him take the camera down, just steps right over it. So if Andrew's narrative, which was shared, is that he was concerned about grabbing the SD cards, why did we step over and leave that one and take the one behind his head, which certainly wasn't facing the Losey Center? Why not just grab them both right there?

Boom, boom.

Worried about people stealing, particularly these SD cards? Okay, grab them both back to back. Grab all three right in that moment. He didn't do that. I feel these are fair questions. And for clarity, because it cannot be overstated enough, all we are seeking are clear answers from the organization that Charlie built, okay? We are not asking for people to be harassed, even though they are seeding the narrative and asking their media friends to put articles like we're— I'm some digital assassin for sharing the truth, which they claim to want. Uh, no, we don't want anybody to get hurt. We just want you guys to be honest. I also want to say this: public lies— or let's assume they aren't lies, actually. Let's say they are just honest mistakes with no ill intent. They still need to be addressed publicly. They deserve to be treated with the same public attention, the same public accountability, especially from an organization that exists as a charity, right? They rely upon our goodwill. As an example, when Erica publicly stated with confidence on Glenn Beck's show that Charlie was not sending text messages the night before signaling that he was worried he was going to be killed It then becomes incumbent upon Erica herself to correct the record publicly when we learn that that isn't true.

That's how you build goodwill with the public. You take accountability. Like, when we make honest mistakes on the show, we always own them. We always correct them as immediately as we have more information, as publicly as when we first asserted them. When it comes to Turning Point USA, it's just amazing. It's like, it's Feels like we're just being perpetually gaslit by them. We're offered a biblical proverb, like, how dare you even ask us to explain why what we told you before is completely inconsistent with what we're saying now? Uh, they're just suggesting that we're evil for noticing these various inconsistencies and illogical points that are being presented by them. Why? I don't know if it needs reminding, but, uh, in this country It is innocent until proven guilty. So why does it seem that Turning Point USA and the representatives and their affiliates are so hell-bent on sending a 22-year-old young man to his death? He's up for the death sentence. Why are they bringing influencers into the courtroom? Why are they, as Blake Neff has done repeatedly, completely misrepresenting court filings to the public in order to do just that? To assert that Tyler Robinson is guilty.

This is a tweet, by the way, from just this morning from Blakey. He's already been community noted on it for its intentional misrepresentation. He just lies and misrepresents, and we're the bad guys for noticing that he's doing it. This is what the tweet read. He wrote, Utah prosecutors have responded to Tyler Robinson's defense filing ahead of the final preliminary hearing and confirms what observers pointed out about that filing. The defense is very conspicuously not contesting any of the core evidence showing Tyler Robinson committed the murder. They don't contest the camera footage, the DNA, the rifle, the cause of death, or Tyler's phone data. All they have is a complaint about reliable hearsay, which won't apply at the full— which won't apply at the full trial anyway, and and then attacks on the aggravating factors. If there was any merit at all to any of the theories that Candus and them have pushed the last 11 months, why didn't the defense bring them up? And I guess, community noted, before I can even reply, because it's, it's stunning to me that he thinks he can get away with this, it says preliminary hearings decide only probable cause.

Under the Utah 1102 standard, um, uh, reliable hearsay is allowed. Defense counsel often skip alternative theories to avoid previewing their strategy before the trial. Silence does not prove that those theories lack merit. Okay, that is correct, and I'm going to explain this to you actually thoroughly because maybe you're a person who isn't involved in lawsuits, and that's what Blake Neff is banking on when he lies. That's what they're banking on when they take stuff from these filings and they present to the public. They go, this— I hope these— the public doesn't know anything about how legal filings work. Okay. Yes, preliminary hearings are not about discovering guilt or innocence. It is about arguing whether or not the filing itself is defective. Okay, like, is there something wrong with this filing that makes it so I don't even have to argue? So the prosecution is coming in and they are going to state, look what I say he did, right? In Tyler Robinson case, here are these 7 charges which we think we have Enough evidence to move forward with. The defense then takes a look and they say, wait a minute, wait a minute. 3 of these charges are so ludicrous on their face that the courts should just readily dismiss them from this filing without us even wasting time or money having to respond to them.

Like, that's what a filing to dismiss means. It's you, if you're the defense, saying to the judge, the magistrate, your honor, I shouldn't even be forced to waste money responding to this filing in part or in whole. Because it's defective. There's something wrong with it. And you, Your Honor, based on the current laws that are on the books, have it within your capacity to just outright dismiss this, right? Understand, um, that basically there are certain causes of action. If they're civil charges, if they're criminal, that should just be readily dismissed, Your Honor. So I can give you an example that happened recently that you guys will recall, because we were on top of the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni and Antithesis legal saga. Remember, initially Blake Lively sued with 13 causes of action against Justin Baldoni. The next step is Justin Baldoni is going to file for a dismissal, and the court came back and decided, actually, yes, Justin, you're, you're correct that 10 of these causes of action are inactionable. It's defective, and I'm therefore going to outright dismiss them before we even go to trial. So in theory, if they had not settled, Blake and Justin would have been left just arguing 3 of the charges.

Okay, same with me and Brian Harpole. There's another example. Again, these are civil examples. He filed the lawsuit, we went over it, it carried with it a long series of claims. We don't want to argue every single one of these claims. Of course I want to argue every single one of these claims. Some of these are just ridiculous. We filed our dismissal, like I went through them with you and was like, this is ridiculous, this is ridiculous, this doesn't make sense. As just one example, um, of one of the things that he's accusing me of, we're— we went back and we said, hey, Your Honor, some of these claims are, are wrong. You have it within your capacity to look at current laws on the books as One being opinion is protected speech. So he's suing me for saying I found his interview with Sean Ryan to be unconvincing. That's my constitutional right to think. I'm not arguing with him about that, right? That's what I'm saying to the judge, right? I don't want to argue with this guy about this. Can we just get rid of this? I don't spend money having to write a response to that.

And so the judge will look at that and they'll say yeah, or they'll say no and say why it's no. But yeah, that— oh yeah, maybe that is protected speech. Get rid of that. We're not arguing the substance of the case yet. We're dealing with perceived defects in the filing itself that we believe the magistrate can take a look at and get rid of what's just essentially junk. It's— every single case, whether civil or criminal, has this stage. So a lot of times there's people online going, oh my gosh, Candace filed a dismissal. They did this recently with like the Brigitte Macron one. It's like, yeah, did you read it? Obviously we don't want to argue with Brigitte over all of this, all of these things that are just fundamentally— I'm saying to the court, she's not even supposed to be here. She's not supposed to be here. What are we even talking about? She's in Delaware. I'm in Tennessee. I mean, she's in France, but she's shopping in Delaware, but I'm in Tennessee. That is what it means. You're arguing something before you even get to anything, and you have a judge that's going to act as a magistrate and to look at that.

So I want you to know that They are intentionally lying and misrepresenting when they say this. We have not heard anything. Um, we are not supposed to at this stage hear what Tyler Robinson thinks about the text messages, as an example. So we can have to ask the question, why do they do this? Why are they doing this? Why, if the evidence is truly so overwhelming that influencers wanted to pass away, they were just passing out on the side of the road outside of the courthouse, from the overwhelming, uh, evidence that Tyler Robinson is guilty? Why, right? Which, by the way, that's been expressed from this organization, Turning Point USA, since the moment Erica forgave Tyler Robinson on the stage. When you forgive, it is because somebody has done something wrong. Why do they need to continually misrepresent the filings? Why does it seem to the public that Andrew Wilson was actually sent here to try to entrap me into a defamation lawsuit. The language, his face, the way he was trying to fill in the blanks on what I could mean when I said complicit. Why are they intent on punishing the public, me, for noticing?

Why did we all simultaneously get that feeling, um, that this debate wasn't actually about debating the case, it was about tricking me? In, in many ways, for about an hour and a half. Like, they needed me to clearly accuse Erica of killing her husband because they know that I've never actually done that. They wanted to get me— oh, when you said complicit, you said straight to jail— out of context. They're, they're seemingly also working with journalists to try to get that narrative out there so they can maybe point in a lawsuit and go, see, this article, even though we were kind of behind it against Candus, shows that most people just thought she was accusing— Erica said that in her speech. Candace is accusing me of killing my husband when she was dressed like Janet Jackson. It's factually false. She knows that's actually false. Why, why are they asserting that narrative? I've been very clear. I think she is wrong. I think what she has done to the organization has been abysmal. I think it betrays Charlie's legacy. Um, she's partnering with his enemies. I think she is, uh, certainly complicit in helping to seed the narrative that Tyler Robinson is guilty or was guilty before we even got to the probative hearing.

The vice president, I also said, was complicit in that when he was on stage at Turning Point USA talking about Tyler Robinson. The vice president— how does that not sway the jury? How are you allowed to do that? Do you not believe that people should be innocent until they are proven guilty? And we called them out on that. I'm sorry if everybody hates our Constitution all of a sudden. It's, it's pretty clear The rule is you are innocent until you are proven guilty. And at the moment, I think a lot of people are wondering why an organization which purports to carry on the legacy of conservative politics is suddenly so staunchly averse to that, staunchly averse to the idea that maybe he could be innocent. Why does that make them angry anyway? We'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, do you feel like you're working harder than ever but still falling behind every month? Between grocery prices, bills, and credit card debt growing, it can feel impossible to get ahead. Minimum payments aren't designed to get you out of debt, they're designed to keep you stuck. PDS Debt can help. They can reduce up to half of what you owe on credit cards, personal loans, and medical bills, and it starts with a free 30-second assessment at pdsdebt.com/kandice. Stop juggling multiple payments and get one lower monthly payment The savings start the day that you complete the 30-second assessment.

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So head to balanceofnature.com to get 10% off their fruits and veggies supplements and a free gift with promo code Candace at checkout. That's balanceofnature.com and use promo code Candace at checkout. One of the things I think that we have demonstrated on this show is that, uh, a lot of people rushed and established narratives that they just won't let go of, even in, uh, with, with overwhelming evidence actually that they're not true. And this early narrative that Tyler Robinson's parents, parents turned him in, that Tyler Robinson's parents were, you know, thought he was guilty. They have not produced any proof of that. And I tried— I made a great effort to explain to Andrew Wilson where he got that from, um, how at that stage, uh, the reliable hearsay was being allowed as they wrote up the charging document. But we cannot tell from the charging document, which seems to be the basis for all of those rumors, whether or not they heard that from Mike Mitchell, this character that we have told you who seems to be the one quarterbacking everything against Tyler Robinson, the family friend who, um, Sheriff Brooksby was like, I got a call from Mike Mitchell saying that, you know, Tyler Robinson was the guy.

And then we have Mike Mitchell being the one who went over to the parents' house. Well, somebody on X actually bumped this, and I did not realize, and I, I obviously shared with you guys, I had a source, uh, within the Robinson family orbit, uh, who was very clear on this, that it was not true, that Matt Robinson did not think his son was guilty, that Mike Mitchell, uh, was the person who quarterbacked a lot of this, and, uh, that things were being intentionally misrepresented in the media. Well, yeah, this person pointed to me on X that actually Trump told the truth. Trump went on Fox and Friends, um, in the immediate aftermath of Tyler Robinson being arrested and explained to the public exactly what we have been saying, that Mike Mitchell was the one who recognized— thought that he recognized Tyler Robinson from the stairwell photo. And then, as we said, he is the one that then contacted the parents. And who knows what happened thereafter. Maybe he then says he showed the mom and said, don't you think it kind of looks like him? And the mom said yes. And then when he later on, uh, wrote his statement, he was like, I showed this to Amber Robinson, and they— she, she said that it could, it could be him or something.

And that's what they then used in their filing, uh, when they went— and in the charging document, rather, which was signed off by Brian Davis. That is all a plausibility. We don't know at this juncture. Uh, but I do want to show you, I want to show you on rewind what Trump said. Take a listen.

Somebody that's close recognizes even a little tilt of the head, which nobody else would do. And somebody that was very close to him said, hmm, that's him. And, uh, essentially, uh, went to the father, went to a U.S. Marshal who was fantastic, by the way. And the person was involved with law enforcement but was a person of faith, a minister.

He's describing Mike Mitchell. Mike Mitchell is not just his Boy Scout leader, he's not just the former police officer, undercover police officer. And all the evidence points to the fact that he did work undercover in sex crimes, which is a running theme in this story, but he is also a minister at the Mormon Church. It was him that recognized Tyler Robinson and got the ball rolling, which I have been saying from the beginning. And they just keep coming out with a narrative and saying, oh, that's not true, it's just like, oh yeah, it's the mom, it's the dad. And I'm going, if mom and dad turned him in, why didn't they just sign a statement? Why wouldn't they present this at the preliminary hearing? Again, this is an easy thing to have debunked They're putting on their case in an approbative hearing. They could just go, and here we— and we have her on camera saying that her son is guilty, or Matt Robinson saying that his son is guilty. He, he brought him in. They just keep lying about this. It doesn't make any sense to me. Are we to believe that Trump didn't have solid information when he presented that?

Clearly he did. He knew all the facts about who Mike Mitchell was and what his contribution was to this story. And I had not even seen that And I had told you guys this exact same narrative. So I do want to point that out to you because it's just a fact of this case that they keep continuing to lie about and severely misrepresenting because that is the way that they do things. I also see that they are now pushing this idea that I am united with Hasan Piker. He is a streamer on the left, and I apparently— I learned in this clip that I'm about to show you, um, that Blake Neff tweeted because it was— it's a new line of attack against me. Uh, here's what Blake Neff wrote. He wrote, um, Hassan Piker is openly celebrating Candace Owens, calling her a queen because she single-handedly undermined the effort to martyrize Charlie to go after the violent radical left. Hassan says that Tyler Robinson probably did it, but my heart says go Candace, go, because she is helping the left so much. The radical pro-violence left knows exactly what a gift Candace and her ilk are to them.

Okay. So I would like to actually hear, or have you guys hear, what Hasan Piker said. And I would like to respond to this since they're all pushing this around, because, you know, we're supposed to accept the Fed slop of left versus right. And again, you're going to hear him say that I've had him blocked for years, so it's even more ridiculous that they're trying to pretend or allude to the idea of this partnership between me and Hasan Piker. Hasan Piker. But take a listen to what he says.

I can't speak out against this queen because this is a queen that successfully and single-handedly undermined the Republican initiative to martyrize Charlie Kirk and use that example to crack down on political dissent. She dropped a grenade on the discourse. You understand? So I'm with her. It's hard. It's hard for me. My brain says, no, it's probably Tyler Robinson. But my heart says, go Candace, go. Keep cooking. You know? Does that make sense? I can't like her tweets because she blocked me many, many years ago. This is before she became our hero.

Okay.

Um, many, many years ago, Candace Owens blocked me. I've, I've not been a fan of Candace Owens. I am a fan now.

I'm not exactly sure what I am supposed to have a problem with. And this is kind of the, the running themes of what we are seeing in Brandy Zajosny's article is that essentially they are saying Candace ruined an opportunity to pin this on the left however wrongly, to unite the Republican, to create this sort of Republican initiative to just start attacking the left, however wrongly, doesn't really matter. After Republicans were kind of fractured because people, um, actually care about pedophilia on the right. The Epstein files mattered and we weren't accepting this idea. Get focused, get— midterms are around the corner, ignore the Epstein files. As you said, no, we are, we are not going to ignore children being harmed. We're not going to see ourselves as just Trump supporters who should be supporting him no matter what, even when he effectively ran. You could certainly say Vance, Vance, everyone around him constantly said, as soon as we get in there, here's what we're going to do with the Epstein files. Kash Patel, his administration was running on something that we cared about. This is, this is what they're essentially saying. They're saying you ruined an opportunity to, however wrongly, have us unite around Charlie's death and stomp out the left for something that they didn't actually do.

Now here's what I'm going to say and offer back to the left. All I did here was pursue truth. I didn't do this for the left. I didn't do this for the right. I did this for my friend Charlie Kirk because I want to know who actually killed him. And I am not convinced this had anything to do with LGBTQ rights. If I, if I did, if I was convinced of that, I would certainly be the biggest voice against it. I think you guys probably know that. But I want you to remember this because this is not the first time, as what Hasan is describing, we had an event that could potentially, I'll say allegedly, be coordinated by the feds, which was meant to cause a left-right war. Here is your homework, Hasan Piker. Look into what actually happened on January 6th. You took the bait. The left took the bait. Okay, this was a different world. Yeah, I would say in 2020, I think that's when that happened. January 6th, 2020. It was a different world. We were all more divided. I count myself among that as well. but none of us were willing to take a look at the facts and we were going, oh, I'm team left or I'm team right.

And as more and more have come out, more and more has come out about what transpired on that day. It was without question an opportunity for us to look up and see who rules over us and who benefits from that. And people were wrongly arrested, people who were encouraged to go into the Capitol on that day. If we're all seeing now for the first time that there is an effort by a minority, a very powerful minority who doesn't actually care about left or right, to seize power from citizens full stop by allowing something terrible to take place and then saying, here's what we must get done and here's what we must pass, à la 9/11, then we, we both, both sides, so to speak, needs to do its job. And be realistic about it. So I'm not anybody's hero or anybody's queen. I am somebody who cares deeply about what happened on September 10th because my friend was killed, and I have the sense that we are being lied to about it, particularly by the federal government. In particular, I feel the federal government is lying to us, and I refuse to accept that it is my duty to blame it on the left if the left didn't do it.

Left does plenty of things that they've been caught doing, and I use my platform to go after them. I have no issue doing that. I'll do that tomorrow if that is the circumstance. If they're doing something radical and wrong, I'll do that. But I'm not just gonna become a cheerleader for the right and know that they are engaged in something very wrong and say, well, it's okay because at least they vote Republican at the end of the day. That's nonsense. All of us need to raise ourselves above that sort of discourse. In the future. And, um, yeah, I think it's actually happening. So there is something that I would say is, um, a positive that has come out of this. I mean, I don't think anybody would have thought that, uh, Charlie Kirk would be a uniter. Certainly not me. Me and him, and we're both staunchly just conservative, staunchly just Republican. I am still conservative. I have issues with calling myself Republican. I just don't care about politics because watching Republicans get behind this absolutely sloppy narrative and trying to force-feed it upon us makes me sick. I just think there's so much corruption, and there is Satanism, um, on both sides, Democrats and Republicans.

A minor few who rule over us and just constantly feed us slop and go, oh look, this is so violent, they've never been more violent, oh look, they've never been more violent. Um, yeah, that's what I want to basically say about that. I do want to show you before we go to break This Wear Forbidden account is just making me laugh so much. We, we just have to let you see what they dropped, which obviously is a play on The Matrix. Take a listen. This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You can go full so they can see this. You take the blue pill and you can just keep saying, so what? You take the red pill, you learn everything about the Tyler Robinson case.

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That's all I have to say. Stop. Just fantastic work coming from Where Forbidden. Unbelievable talent. I just absolutely love it. I'm laughing so hard at all of these, so I just need to share it and just give him full credit. Again, that is @whereforbidden on X. He's also definitely on Instagram as well. We'll be right back after a brief break. All right, you guys, you probably already know this, but AI can clone your voice, forge your signature, and even create fake documents that fool experts. And criminals are using these tools right now to steal from you. It's called title fraud. Your property records are public by law. Your name, your address, even your signature. It's all sitting in a database anyone can access today. A cyber scammer pulls your records, uses AI to forge a transfer document, files it with your county, and on paper, they are the new legal owner of your property. Then they can borrow against your equity or even sell your property long before you even realize that anything is wrong. That's why I trust Home Title Lock. They monitor your property's title 24/7, alert you of any changes, and if you're a victim, Their team of restoration experts will spend up to $1 million restoring your title.

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Again, that's 800-795-1210, or visit americanfinancing.net/owens. That's americanfinancing.net/owens. Okay, top comments from yesterday's episode. Dan Teacher Leslie writes, sounds like Tara Farnsworth could be guilty of evidence tampering and obstruction of justice. I will say I don't know that. I can't, I cannot assert that. I can just show everyone what happened and weigh it against the comments that were made by Andrew. I could definitely say he's guilty of lying to Candus, um, pretty much. I can say Andrew, um, I'd be interested to hear his follow-up to this. I mean, Teryl could argue it was his, it's his property, he can do whatever he wants with it, and he can decide what he wants to handle, right? What he wants to give over— pardon me— um, to the feds or to the SBI. I don't really know. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert in Utah law, but like I said, I have established that there were just a lot of lies that were told early on, and I just can't fathom why that is. Like, why lie and say you don't know how to you're not comfortable because you think Google's gonna hack you when you had already sent a Google link to the FBI?

And why pretend that you don't know how to send a big file when you had already sent that Google link over, um, 8 days earlier? That doesn't make sense to me. Cozy writes— Cozy Anda, Hallie writes, if the camera is pointing down, it would show the men handling Charlie Kirk when he fell to the ground. It would show what they did, and it would show Charlie's shirt and what might be under it. It might even catch audio of what they said to each other. That is my thinking, I will tell you that. That is my thinking. I think that is why the footage was really important. I don't think that that footage mattered so much otherwise. Um, it— as Nissi demonstrated in her videos, that is precisely what would have been captured. And I'd be interested to know if that was— if it ever made its way to the FBI when it was on the flash drive, or if they were only presented with that portion zoomed in. I even noted that all of the cameras stopped running at like the 26-minute mark. If you look at his, um, statements, it tells you how long the videos that he gave were, and all of them are 26 minutes plus some seconds except for one of them, which is 23 minutes.

I'm wondering if it's that camera with— that was a 3-minute clip generated out of that portion. I don't know. I really don't know. Just, um, thinking and trying to put things together like the rest of you. Cameron Byer writes, uh, these are today's comments: pray for the truth to be revealed soon. Every day, pray for the truth to be reviewed— revealed. I have kept that prayer since September 10th. Jelena writes, sending much love and positive vibes from Croatia. You and your family should totally visit. I love you and appreciate you so much, and I'm wishing you all the best. Go Max! I've been to Croatia, actually lived there for a couple of months randomly in Dubrovnik, um, back when I worked in private equity. It's a long story, but I, um, I loved Dubrovnik. I loved Croatia. Dolo Flexing writes, I'm officially a fan. I don't remember how I came across you on YouTube, but I'm glad I did when I was working the night shift. I must confess, I did miss a few episodes for about maybe a month or two, but I'm officially a fan. I'll be purchasing merch very soon. You be sure to get your second favorite shirt from katiesowens.com. You be sure to get that.

We can't sell you your first favorite shirt, but we can sell you your second favorite shirt. Available on the website. It is indeed going to be your second favorite shirt. Um, you can also support us by buying the Stop Anti-Cannabisism mug, which was featured in the Where Forbidden Debate Tricks video. Um, and you know, any of the kit obviously is the best way to support us and our independence. And of course, our new stuff, uh, which heavily features, uh, I Can Explain to You But I Cannot Understand It for You. As we are all on this journey of trying to help Andrew Wilson understand why his argument is hypocritical, that we must accept the what is being said in a hearsay hearing but we're not allowed to use the same methodology to come up with our own theories, looking at the evidence and inferring upon it. Uh, Slap writes regarding Andrew Wilson, I used to be a big fan of Andrew and then I saw the debate that he did on Charlie's shooting before Candace and I had never seen that side of him before. He didn't make sensible arguments that I was used to.

I then realized that he was bought and it's sad to watch. Yeah, Yeah, I've heard several people, I even did Dave's show yesterday, Dave Smith's show. And a lot of people keep saying this, that like, he knows how to debate, he's normally a formidable debater. That's shocking to me. Obviously you guys know I didn't spend time watching all of his previous stuff in debates. I spent time instead preparing my arguments for what I thought we were going to be debating. That shocks me because he was so terrible. And, but that's what happens if you're non-committal and you are doing it because someone's behind you and giving you money. That's a really fast way to lose. You have to actually think you can win it based on merit, not based on gotchas and out-of-context clips and trying to entrap people into a lawsuit. So yeah, that is unfortunate if he was actually once a good debater and this is what happened because he sold out. It is unfortunate. Joshua Steves writes, are we ever going to talk about how Bibi Netanyahu is probably dead? I don't think he is. I think when all that stuff was happening, he was probably hiding and being a coward and using AI die.

That's what it seemed like to me. Um, I haven't explored that theory. I tried to limit my intake on BBNet and Yahoo because he's positively maddening. Um, Zammit writes, calling on all Americans to join Candace Owens in the resistance to the Fed Slop Incorporated and its franchises. Thank you very much. I like that call to action. Dear Libby writes, I am just inferring, but was legal pickle an Easter egg? Was I playing the Taylor Swift game when I said I'm not going to get myself in a legal pickle? Hahaha, means you, you can't open me up to putting myself into a lawsuit here, which they're— I mean, they have just been so heavily, heavily implying that they want to sue me. It's so pathetic. I mean, like I showed you guys, all the Sandy Hook references. Everybody is speaking about what happened, the Charlie Kirk case. They want to make an example out of me so people stop thinking. I mean, if Turning Point USA really takes that step, we'll do that, and we will deal with it when it comes. Um, but Yeah, I, I don't think that's, that's gonna put the conspiracies to bed.

I will certainly say that the world is, is much more up to date and speaking about the details of a Charlie Kirk case than they ever were about Sandy Hook. Um, it was not global. People didn't follow that. And people are really following the Charlie Kirk case. And so if their means is to publicly hang someone with the full support of the federal government, I I'd caution against it, but I'd caution against everything that Turning Point USA has done since Charlie's assassination. And you could see caution is completely tossed into the wind with this, um, with them. Uh, 90 Elizabeth writes, did Andrew Wilson release the proof text yet? It's been 3 days. Or did he lose the SIM card in the phone that he had the proof in? He is like teasing it out for a big Friday show or something because he wants a bunch of people to pay him behind the paywall Obviously don't do that. That's obviously a trap. Somebody will just post it on the internet and you'll be able to see it for free. I'm giddy about that. I won't be one of the people watching, but I can't wait until it gets posted, um, by one of his fans as the proof that I was telling the truth and somehow being punished for that publicly.

I don't know, it's, it's vindication, I guess. Sweet vindication for me or something is what they're working on. That's what they're cooking up next. Anyway, you guys, I'm reminding you book club is going to be tomorrow, so we'll have an episode and then we will have book club. And beyond that, I— we will be off next week. So yeah, it's gonna be the last episode before I go away with my husband because it's our anniversary, and also we just take every 6th week off so that we can regroup, study, get organized, and bring you guys the same energy that we bring into every week.

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We'll see you guys tomorrow.