Transcript of COLLECTIVE AMNESIA: Feds Fumble The Backpack. Frank Turek Changes His Story. | Ep 361

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Die neue Sommerwäsche von Tchibo begeistert mit leuchtenden Farben und fröhlichen Prints. Feine Spitze, leichte Mikrofaser und sommerliche Schnitte sorgen für pures Wohlgefühl. Selbst an heißen Tagen. Entdecke jetzt die neue Wäschekollektion von Tchibo und finde deine Lieblingsstücke für den Sommer. All right, you guys, happy Thursday. Look alive. Look more alive than I currently feel today. I'm actually exhausted because the kids are still a bit jet lagged, and my daughter Louise woke us up at 4 AM this morning because she does this thing. It's like a repeat pattern, I'd probably say 3 times a week, where she sort of creates a crisis and gathers a search party that consists of just my husband, her father, and she loses— because she says that she loses— her squishmallow. Okay, so in case you guys don't know what a squishmallow is, here it is. I'm gonna show you the squish strawberry squishmallow. Believe it or not, this little ball of squish has caused more drama in my household, in the Farmer household, than probably anything else because she loses it at obscure times and then she gets really upset and she bursts into her room and she says, Daddy, Daddy, I can't find my squishmallow.

And every single time he gets up and he finds the squishmallow Which is always conveniently just like right next to her bed, fell right next to her bed. And so last night she did one of these things at 4:00 AM in the morning. She did the little, little hand, always this way. We know she's really serious and upset and it's, Daddy, I can't find my Squishmallow. Last night it was her bracelet. And at 4:00 AM he just gets up and he goes and he deals with it. So anyways, that's what's going on in my household. So I'm a little tired today. But what do I have for you? Well, back into our story. Everybody's blacking out. Everybody has amnesia about September 10th. We got Blakey Neff, who by the way wants us to believe that he never ever watches this show, but mysteriously he always has a clip handy and circulating on his X feed approximately 5 minutes after we get off air. And he's like, oh, somebody sent this to me. We all know that Blake Neff is a closeted Standus. He's working at Turning Point, so that's got to be a tough gig, my friends.

It's like when Tim Dillon says friend of the show. Blake Neff is definitely a friend of the show, but he's not the only person that is suffering from a little amnesia regarding September 10th. Today we returned to the courtroom because I missed something in the preliminary hearing that Baron Coleman flagged to me over the weekend because we were sharing notes, and it is a potential answer for what happened to that mysterious backpack and gloves and a jacket which were found at the bus stop near the library on the same route that the alleged Losi Center shooter traveled. And yet the FBI moved not to test those abandoned items. What happened? Because if you think about it logically, what information could they have possibly been presented with that would've caused the feds to be like, oh no, nevermind, that's not important. Don't test it. The answer may surprise you. Actually, probably not, because it's the feds and slop is their entire brand. So welcome back to Candus. All right, so what do we know? We know that they found Tyler Robinson in just 33 hours. Valhalla, my friends. Who could forget the moment they announced that?

By that time, of course, they had also announced that they found the gun and a screwdriver which had his DNA on it. That was announced by Kash Patel a couple of days later, but they had kind of already leaked that they were looking— they had discovered this screwdriver. I think it was actually the next day, on September 11th. Um, was the first time we heard about this. Now, I just want to say we should just consider the screwdriver, full stop, because I have so many questions about it. When exactly and why exactly did he take it out at all? Think about that. They rushed so much to say his DNA was on there, but now it makes no sense at all that he had a screwdriver in his hand on the rooftop. Can anybody make logical sense of that? And why is it that the person who filmed and observed him on that roof on Losey Center making military movements— got a lot of emails from you guys about what that is and how you would have to have military training to know how to do that movement— why is it that he has maintained his story and has absolutely no recollection of having seen a towel or a screwdriver?

Actually, when did, when did that happen, right? Throughout my conversations with him, He didn't see either. When did the person on the rooftop take out a towel and take out a screwdriver? Why would he take out the towel or the screwdriver on the rooftop? None of the influencers, by the way, I might mention and add here, none of them mentioned and, and shared that moment in their 4K HD overwhelming recap that they saw the screwdriver in 4K. When did it happen? Can they do that? You guys, you saw it. They only showed it to you guys. Could you tell us, could you further illustrate Benny Johnson, the moment he took out that screwdriver and why, why he did that? And of course, when Officer Bagley, the officer who raced over to Velozzi Center rooftop at 12:44 PM, Charlie gets shot at 12:23, he's up there at 12:44 PM and he finds that screwdriver. But you know, mysteriously, we had another blackout, another amnesia spell, this time from a piece of tech. The body cam just died. It was just like Blake Neff. It was like, I don't know what I'm— I don't remember anything. I'm just a body cam.

Remember this moment?

All right, your body cam footage that I reviewed appears to end while you're still on the roof. Do you know why that is?

I think the battery went dead. It was just right at that moment.

Okay.

And do you know, did you ever turn it back on that day or go get it? I don't know, what do you have to do, charge it or stick a new battery in it? I don't even know.

Usually dock it, but no, I didn't go back. I was too— it was too chaotic running around.

So that 27-minute and 35-second body cam that starts when you're at the Paul Flags and ends while you're still on the roof but haven't put the crime tape up yet. That's the only body cam you have that day?

Yes.

All right.

It's sad. You know, we received a score of emails from police officers all over the country and the world telling us that that account registers to them as absolute BS, that testimony. In fact, one person informed us— and I'm going to show you this email— Um, and obviously protecting his identity, he wrote, we use the same body camera that the Utah City Police use, the Axon BodyCam 4 model. I would be happy to look into any questions you might have about it. It bothered me that the officer claimed his bo— his camera died when he was on the rooftop. The camera battery lasts approximately 14 hours. At the end of every shift, we have to dock our cameras all on a detachment shared dock. Dock is also what uploads all of that data and the videos from the shift onto the server. We can then review the videos on the Axon website. This website is the same across North America. The camera video also captures a GPS route of exactly everywhere the officer walked. To turn on the recording, we press the middle button twice. It automatically saves 30 seconds before that. Turn the video off, you have to hold the button down for a few seconds.

At the end of the video, you can usually see the officer's hand moving toward the button and even blocking the lens a bit with their hand. I'll also mention you get a reminder when the battery is going to die. It does a high-pitched tone and vibrates 4 times at 10% left and again at 5%. So there's no way he didn't know his battery was going to die. The Axon Body 4 system also logs and records the specific reason a video stops or a device turns off. All of this information can be seen on the Axon site, the police have access to and can review. Oh, I— well, that's good to know. Did he hear the beep? 27 minutes, yours just went off after being docked, but, um, it's supposed to last 14 hours. Did you hear the beep warning? Beep, I'm about to die. Like, I'm, I'm blacking out. People also, as he, as you just saw, said that it stores that data. And so we will be able to find out eventually. Um, how that battery died so quickly, or if it was manually turned off. I personally am looking forward to that full trial when the narrative of how the body cam crashed out comes to light.

And that's not it. Remember, he also— Officer Bagley can't remember who he was on the rooftop with. Quite shocking what he says happened. Uh, it could be relevant. Maybe that person planted the screwdriver. Who he was on the rooftop with is super relevant. Uh, this is what— this is what he said during his testimony about that moment.

It appears to me from reviewing your body camera that there was another individual who was with you that went to the Losi Building who was in civilian clothing but appeared to have a gun. Who was that?

I, I don't know who he was exactly. He had a badge on, and I had somebody with me to back me up as I ran up the stairs to make sure I had somebody with me.

So you don't know what agency he's from or where he's from?

No.

And he looked like he had a pistol.

Yes.

Is that right?

A handgun?

Yes.

A handgun.

Yeah.

Um, and so the two of you go to the Losi Building.

Yes.

It's just incredible.

Did— when you reviewed the videotape at the police department later, did you check to see if anyone had been on the Losi Building after the shooting, after this individual had jumped off that you've already talked about? Was there anybody else on the roof? Did you check see in that gap of time?

In that gap of time, no. So once I put up the barrier, I only walked, walked up to about that point, then I went down and reviewed the video from that moment on.

So were you able to see— are you able to say for one way or the other if anyone else had been on that roof in between when the person jumped off the building and when you came on the roof? Are you able to say one way or the other?

Uh, there was people up there looking for an individual that ran that way because when I first got told the individual ran heading north, that we didn't know where the shooter was. So we started climbing up and looking, clearing the building. And it wasn't until I went to the PD and actually saw him jump off of the building that I knew he was off the building.

Let me rephrase that because I think I, I either asked it badly or you misunderstood me. So let me, let me go back again. So from the time that the individual that you spotted on the video jumped off the roof right? The individual that you thought was in the prone position.

Okay.

Between that and when you got on the roof, did you ever check to see if anybody else had been on the roof in that period of time?

Yeah, and I didn't see anybody. So you didn't watch anybody?

Yeah, you didn't. Did you look on the video to see that entire— okay, that's what I'm asking. So you did not review the video to see if there was someone between you, that individual jumping off, and you coming on, if anybody had been on or disturb that scene in any way.

Okay, let's remind you that this is now 10 months later, and Officer Bagley wants you to believe that a shooting took place, he sprinted into action, he went up on the Losey rooftop where he believes that a murderer just ran off of, and he, he sees a guy in plain clothes holding a gun and he's like, hey, I don't even need to know your name. I just trust you. I feel like this is the brotherhood. I saw a badge. Did you check the badge? Was it a real badge? Was the person pretending to be an officer? No, it didn't matter. He had a badge. Just like he's giving the Brian Harpole, I saw the tattoo. But he, at least Brian Harpole saw a tattoo. This guy thinks he saw a badge, doesn't know where it's from, and they just trust this guy to come up on the rooftop with him. And at no point in the 10 months following the Charlie Kirk assassination did Officer Bagley go, Well, you know what, I'm an officer here at UVU, so I'm gonna just like check that footage and see who the heck was on the rooftop with me, because that'd be good to know.

Was that even an officer that was up there? No. In fact, he was so disinterested in what transpired on that rooftop, he didn't even review the 20 minutes before he got up there, right? That's what she's asking. Uh, did you go back and see if from 12:23, which is what you should have said, when Charlie got shot, and 12:44 when you arrived on that rooftop, if anybody else was on the rooftop? Maybe I don't know, dropping a screwdriver? He says, no, no, I just, I don't know, I just felt good with this guy who I have no idea who he is. And since then we never looked back on the footage. Hey, but you know what's really good? A ton of influencers just confirmed that that very rooftop that you were on, they are now able to get 4K HD footage. They're just able to enhance it so that it, it looks like the movie 300. It's amazing. Yeah, that's what they're able to do now. Of the— now they typically only show this to the influencers. She might have to go to them, but I bet they're going to be able to tell you exactly, since they saw Tyler Robinson, exactly who was on that rooftop with you with the badge.

Isn't that great? They can use that same HD 4K setup in that exact spot to help Officer Bagley fill in his spots of amnesia. I love that. That's great. You know, that's always the problem with big lies, you guys. That's why you shouldn't tell lies, because you don't get to pick and choose when they serve you. So if it's 4K HD and you're sure it's Tyler Robinson, it better be 4K HD when we figure out who went on that rooftop with Officer Bagley, if it ever jogs his interest. You know what I think? I don't think there ever was a screwdriver up there. I think that that screwdriver was planted there at a different time. I don't believe that the person who sprinted took out a screwdriver for no reason. They can't even fit it into the nail. They don't know why he took out the screwdriver for funsies. I also don't think, based on the eyewitness account from the person who recorded him on the rooftop, that he had a towel. I think it was just a bag, a bag that we are seeing him swing, and they are telling us it was his towel.

Um, now I want you to also take a listen again. We played this for you yesterday to Sergeant Jennifer Filomena. Okay? That was the woman from the Utah Bureau of Investigations. And I think I said she was UVU sergeant. I meant to say she's from the Utah Bureau of Investigations, the state, um, Bureau of Investigations. And she tells us about finding that abandoned backpack, the jacket, and the gloves. At the bus stop along the very route that the shooter ran, right? Take a listen to what she says again because it's going to be relevant.

Now, if my count is correct, 9 of those reports in that larger body of reports was written by you, correct?

Yes.

Did I miss any?

Uh, there are—

sound about right?

Yeah.

Okay. Um, I want to ask you about a couple of those reports. The first report was a report that you wrote on September 22nd that documented the overview of the crime scenes, correct?

Yes.

And there were various crime scenes that you've described on direct examination, correct?

Yes.

One of them was the, uh, Fulton Library.

Yes.

Tell us why that was a potential crime scene.

Yeah, of course. When officers were canvassing the scene, they were also trying to see, right, the route of the shooter as well as just trying to find the shooter. And they deemed, or they determined, that the Fulton Library stood out because there were unattended items there at the bus stops that were away from the courtyard area. And so to them, they thought it was suspicious.

And were certain items seized And what were they?

Yes, you had a backpack, a jacket, as well as some gloves, and there may have been some other things. I just don't recall them right now.

And do you recall what the item numbers were of those seizures? Was it 9? Does that ring a bell?

I don't remember.

Uh, those— whatever was seized was sent to the FBI lab for processing?

Yes.

Um, and along with some information that the suspect may shed some of this, these items as he fled, correct?

Yes.

Was the decision at some time made, and you were requesting that both DNA and other type of analysis get done?

Yes.

At some point, did you decide to pull a plug on that?

Um, at the time when it was already sent, we didn't have more information as far as whether or not, whether or not the evidence that were collected there were probative.

But eventually you communicated to the lab that those items were not in fact connected with the case and there was no need to do further testing.

I don't remember communicating that.

Okay, if that's in the notes of the FBI or the ATF, would that be inconsistent with what you know?

Uh, no.

Okay, I mentioned it because some of the reports, the lab reports, have those items listed. Okay, I just want to be clear that those items eventually you determined were not related to this case. Would that be fair?

Yeah, that would be fair.

Okay, so the relevant thing is she doesn't remember communicating that, but she's saying the S determination was that it was not relevant to this case. So she is State Bureau of Investigations, she then finds these items, yet they send it over to the FBI for processing, and then in the FBI's report and/or the ATF's report, they say we didn't test this because it was communicated by her that it was no longer probative. Okay. And apparently the FBI listened to her, but she doesn't remember that. Now, it is likely that we're going to now hear from a different testimony from an FBI agent, Amanda Baker, on day 2, that they're referring to the exact same items. You are going to hear Amanda Baker describe to you why, or I guess what happened next once they got these items and the reason that they determined that these items, which sound like they could match the description of the person who I spoke to, who recorded the video and said, yeah, he was in all black, everything was covered, not sure if he, you know, had his hands out, but everything was all black. He could have been a very Black person, or he had on some black gloves.

So it sounds like to me, um, these could be those items on the route of the shooter. Here is the reason that the FBI decided Um, that it was no longer probative. Take a listen to Amanda Baker.

When you received this, the evidence, you got more than 7 and 8, correct? You got a number of other samples?

Correct, I did.

Got a backpack, which you labeled as Exhibit 9, and a bunch of items from that backpack. Correct?

Correct, yes.

You're eventually— you were initially told that those items related to things that may have been discarded by the suspect.

Uh, so initially we didn't have any information, so we processed that. Those are items that are good for DNA. Not having any information from the investigators, we process them for DNA. As the investigation continues, it was determined that that back backpack was potentially left behind by a, by a bystander, and there was no comparisons needed at that time.

Well, left behind by a bystander, or according to your notes at page 20, the backpack belongs to Kirk's detainees.

Uh, yes, based on the individual that, uh, that was not my communication log, that was someone else within the laboratory. That was the information that they received.

Somebody just added some notes in her notes. Oh, um, she's like, uh, I was just told not to process it. And then she's like, the information they received, why they no longer had to test it, was because it belonged to someone in Charlie's detail. Well, that's incredible. If this is indeed the abandoned backpack, the same one found at the bus stop, and it sounds like it could be since she asserts, uh, similarly that they initially thought that it was abandoned by the rooftop shooter, which means that they found this along the route that the alleged rooftop shooter took, right? Then the reason they moved not to test it is incredible. It belonged to someone on Charlie's detail.

Who?

First and foremost, that's a really important question because we have the people intimately involved in the situation who are suddenly developing amnesia, who communicated this, who's adding notes, like who's like ghostwriting in these people's notes. Like Amanda doesn't remember these notes. Somebody in the lab added this randomly. Uh, Philomena, Sergeant Philomena doesn't remember these ever communicating this. Who is the hand that is moving this? And more crucially, who was the person on Charlie's detail that they determined this backpack belonged to? Why on earth was this individual up at a library bus stop that's nowhere near, um, Losey Center, nowhere near the amphitheater? Why would they be up there at all dropping off a backpack, gloves, a jacket? Why did they bring gloves at all? That's a good question. It's a pretty hot day. We're not in the winter. And why on earth would the FBI and the SBI accept that, well, the person was on Charlie's team as a good enough reason to stop testing? Why wouldn't you continue testing for DNA, confirming it's somebody on Charlie's team, confirming, uh, I don't know, that it doesn't have any gun residue on it? I'm sorry, has nobody ever been found guilty of killing someone they know?

Is that a new theme for the FBI? Isn't this like always what happens? Out of envy, out of greed, out of anger, out of lust. Is this a new concept to the police? Since when is I know the victim accepted as an alibi? Oh yeah, uh, someone just killed their lover. Police come, they grab the knife. Oh, that's my knife, but I know, I know that person. Oh, okay, well, I guess it can't be you. You know the person. We won't test it then. Here you go. Take this back. Just a little refresher here. 70 to 80% of homicide victims are killed by people that they know. And when money is involved, that percentage increases dramatically. And do you know what Charlie had? Access to a lot of money. And I imagine when you throw politics in the mix, that probably increases even more dramatically. The idea that you would accept 'I know Charlie' as an excuse to give back abandoned items that shouldn't be where they are— because Charlie's detail should not be up by the library for any reason dropping off backpacks. The reason given is unacceptable. And the confusion of both of these women as they testified— genuine confusion there with Amanda Baker.

She was just like, 'I don't know what you're talking about. I wasn't told it was somebody on Charlie's team.' And then she says, oh, somebody at the lab just added that. Same exact confusion that we just saw expressed by Philomena. These are your notes? Yes. Yes. Oh, um, yeah, I, I, I don't recall me having communicated that. So what I'm getting is that somebody at the FBI lab authored that. We should know who that person is because that just stinks to high heaven. You would test it. You would test it. And hopefully as this trial moves forward, we're gonna be in some luck because we've just learned from a bandit of influencers that we can get 4K HD undeniable mountain of evidence, overwhelming footage. Surely, surely there was a surveillance camera that was uh, trained on the bus stop. That just makes sense. It's a bus stop, right? There's got to be surveillance camera right there. Again, I am personally looking forward to this trial because this entire thing is a house of cards, okay? And a lot of people deserve to have their careers ended for perpetuating this level of fraud upon the American people.

It's absurd. It's just— the story is going to grow more absurd, and they're just— they're just going to be chasing their tails. Separately, I want to tell you guys that we received a tip from a verified source at Timpanogos Hospital. It's very difficult to find sources at Timpanogos Hospital. I've been telling you that, and this one is completely solid. I've confirmed that the person works there, and they have told me that they have confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt that the hospital was not informed ahead of time that Charlie was en route. Okay, remember, that was their official story, that, uh, you know, they called 911 and they explained to me that procedurally happens when you do that, when you make that call, is that there's a place in the hospital that then receives and preps and is expecting you to arrive. Um, and we have yet to hear from any of these people who loved telling the story over and over again of what they were doing and what was happening, whether it was Brian Harpo, Frank Cherk. Nobody wants to take credit for calling 911. Is that strange? That's a pretty heroic, necessary thing to do.

Brian Harpole told us what everybody was doing in that car, but he just says like, we called 911. Who's we? Not you, sir. You were busy with 9,000 feet of gauze. Your brother with the tattoo was holding you. Somebody was on the phone with Ben Shapiro's security. Who called 911 in this 7-minute short journey? I'll remind you of what Brian Harpole said about that phone call. He says it.

Well, I feel bad for the hospital staff because we showed up looking like that and they didn't know we were coming, even though we had called 911. But I don't know what happened to that.

There is no team in calling 911 who physically dialed 911. And why can't we find that call? That's public information. The calls have been released. People have gone through them. Who was the individual that called 911? I just— I'd like to know that. Maybe Frank Turek can give us an answer. That actually brings us back to Frank Turek in general and, uh, this mysterious car ride, which is making less and less sense as time goes by. We're going to discuss that when we get back from a brief break. All right, you guys, a lot of people feel like they are working harder than ever but still falling behind every single month. Between grocery prices, bills, and credit card debt growing, it can feel impossible to get ahead. Minimum payments are not designed to get you out of debt. They're designed to keep you stuck. But PDS Debt can help. They can reduce up to half of what you owe on credit cards, personal loans, and medical bills. And it starts with a free 30-second assessment at pdsdebt.com/candice. So stop juggling multiple payments and get just one lower monthly payment. The savings start the day that you complete the 30-second assessment.

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I mean, there's so much I could say, but I'll save it for the book club. But him in particular, we got to get deeper into the Frank Turek story and where his family comes from and what they're involved in. But I do want to just give him a round of applause for unlocking another level of propaganda. I personally am proud of us. I'm proud of me. These levels of propaganda are becoming aspirational. The speed at which they move through various themes and can't keep track of the thing they said yesterday— Candace is demonic, Candace is a digital assassin, Candace is stupid, no, she's really smart evil genius— it's difficult to keep up with, right? But when one of the propaganda campaigns fails, they always launch another one. And today Pastor Dr. Frank Turek wants you to know that watching my show could lead to marriage strain and divorce. Heavy. Apparently someone's husband wrote into his show. Now, I just want to say off the bat, there's been no evidence that the writer of this script is not actually Blake Neff. And even if it were Blake Neff, he probably wouldn't remember. Anyway, here is what this anonymous husband had to say to Dr. Frank Turek.

I'm writing because I'm at a point of desperation, and I'm hoping you might offer some biblical wisdom or practical advice. My wife and I are both Christians, but over the past several months she has become deeply influenced by Candace Owens's recent content regarding you, Israel, and a number of broader conspiracy-related topics. She has come to believe that you are dishonest and you are a false teacher, and even that you are involved in criminal wrongdoing. She also believes that there are vast hidden forces controlling world events, governments, media, and churches. From everything I've studied over the years, I've reached a very different conclusion. I continue to believe you are sincerely serving Christ through apologetics. Well, I don't think any human being is beyond criticism. I know I'm certainly not. I have not seen credible evidence to support the accusations that are being made against you. What concerns me most isn't simply that we disagree, it's that these beliefs have become central to our conversations and are creating an ever-widening divide in our marriage. Almost every discussion eventually, eventually returns to these subjects, and it has become increasingly difficult to have peaceful conversations. Let me pause right here.

This reminds me of, uh, the proverb that talks about one of the things God hates, and that's someone who causes dissension among the brothers. All right, let me continue.

No, we can, we can pause there.

Listen carefully. I've tried asking questions instead of arguing.

That's, that's good. I like this level. You know, I actually, I wasn't gonna do it, but I, I I too had a letter written into the show that I'd like to read. It says, dear Candace, you are very beautiful and wonderful and perfect and profound. And me and my husband are, have come together closer since watching your show. We're, we are closer than we've ever, we were on the brink of divorce and then we started watching your podcast. And because we watched your podcast, we know that we will be together forever. And ever and ever. And let me just stop right there. It reminds me of when, you know, God said, let there be light. And like, obviously he must be referring to like just light in a marriage if you watch the podcast or something. What are we doing? Like, you—

this is—

the psyop just has to end. It has to end. It has failed. And I have to be honest with you, Frank, you just come across as a fraud. All right, just a Christian fraud selling Christianity, but actually trying to socially engineer people. And you're a part of, like I said, that movement of Christian pastors who hail from literal military operations designed to target Christians, um, because that was and is still a thing. And your job is to persuade gullible evangelicals that it is their biblical duty to follow their governments into the pits of hell. It is about control. And you say, I'm a doctor and I do Christian apologetics. And the Charlie Kirk story has exposed you all. Do you guys think, by the way, we're ever gonna get an answer, um, as to why Frank's grown adult male children, two of whom I should mention served as captains in the Air Force, one of whom, I don't know if you know this, served particularly in intelligence, why would any of his children at the ages that they are be FaceTiming their dad in the middle of the day? Okay, let's actually recap his story before I tell you who his kids are.

Some people are saying you said you were on FaceTime for 9 hours. I never said I was on FaceTime for 9 hours. I was FaceTiming my son and daughter-in-law when the shot rang out. I put the phone in my pocket, not even remembering they were there. 'Cause as soon as Charlie shot, I'm heading toward him and then running with him. I just put it in my back pocket. They heard the entire thing until we got to the hospital. When I pulled it out of my pocket, they were still there. You know, talked to 'em, said goodbye. That's when I called Jack Hibbs to pray. And Seth Dillon called me because he had heard what had happened. So I'm talking to him on the phone. I wasn't talking for 9 hours. Somebody online said I said I was on FaceTime for 9 hours till we got to the hotel. No. To the hospital. It was in my back pocket. It's amazing how misinformation just goes everywhere.

Frank, I think the person who said that they were— that you were on the phone on FaceTime until you got to the hotel, we, we actually hunted down that person and we, we want to expose them because I don't like what misinformation spreads. Here he is. I know you had your phone on and your son was hearing all of this too, so I mean, he must He must have been traumatized just listening to it all.

Yeah, he— it was my son and daughter-in-law. I mean, he's 35 years old, and I was just— I was FaceTiming them because they love Charlie. And I was just— first I was FaceTiming my wife, and then I said, let me call Spencer. And so I started FaceTiming him during the event. During the event? Yeah, both during the event. And, uh, and then when the shot rang out I just, as I say, started heading toward the car and I just put the phone in my back pocket. I didn't even, I didn't turn it off. I just, you know, instinctively. And, uh, by the time I got to the hotel, I pulled it out. They were still there. So they heard the whole thing.

Yeah, I think it, I think it was you who said hotel. Anyway, um, glad we could help you get to the source of that. You just seemed really fired up. You go at Frank Turek. I hate when Frank Turek says things that Frank Turek didn't mean. Frank has two high-ranking sons in the military. The first, um, first person has the same name as him. He goes— he's Frank Turek. I think he's number 4, actually, but he goes by his middle name, Zach. Frank Zach Turek. Zachary Turek. And do you know where Zach was employed and working when his father just so happened to jump on a FaceTime with his brother and by pure coincidence watch Charlie Kirk get hit and die? Zach was working at the Pentagon. He is today employed in Washington, D.C. at the Pentagon, serving as the Deputy Division Chief of the Joint Staff. Now, I think Zach would have been a pretty good person to alert or to have been in touch with on September 10th, but I guess he decided to just keep praying in the back seat, and his military son, uh, Spencer, didn't jump into action to maybe call his brother.

I don't know. Instead, Frank decided to sit in the back seat pray and listen to Ben Shapiro's security team receive updates? Like I said, why didn't Spencer— Air Force— hang up, call his brother, call someone at the Pentagon? You guys are connected to top brass. Frank didn't call 911, nor did he think to phone his son who works for the most powerful, most funded, and most corrupt division of our government, the Department of Defense. No, he didn't. Instead, what are we supposed to believe happened? Uh, we're just supposed to believe, like I said, that he was just praying. He was just praying in the backseat and all of these things just, I don't know, transpired. Um, while his son, uh, and I hate, I hate to nitpick, but what was your son and daughter-in-law doing because your son happens to be funded by my taxpaying dollars, so I feel like I have the right to ask. He's also in the military, right? He works as a branch chief pilot for the Air Force. Did he have this particular Wednesday off? Are we doing government off Wednesdays? Because he's on the East Coast, right? I checked.

He looks like he's on the East Coast. So why at 2:23 PM in the afternoon is he with his wife clearing out his military schedule to make availability to watch Charlie Kirk answer questions on an obscure college campus? In Utah like it's a World Cup event. It's not, it's not registering for me. By the way, well, fun fact, Frank and his son Zach, Pentagon Zach, actually wrote a book together entitled Hollywood Heroes: How Your Favorite Superhero Movies Reveal God, right? The book makes the argument that Christians love a cinematic theme, a cinematic masterpiece, which draws on the biblical theme of sacrifice, wherein they are presented with a superhero who, like Jesus, sacrifices his or her life for them. Because Christians, we just eat that stuff up. And you know what that made me think of? It made me think of the Charlie Superman neck narrative. Man of Steel, the primary and the largest heaping of Christian slop ever attempted to be served upon the population. Right, 30-06 doesn't make sense. Feed them slop. Everything in that initial tweet that went out by Andrew Colvette— it was a modern-day miracle. Even in death, Charlie saved lives.

Yeah, it read exactly like a bad superhero script, and I guess Christians were supposed to just be drawn to it and go, this is amazing. That's been their number one line of psychological attack since Charlie's assassination, an attempt to make asking questions a sign of demonic possession, because trust the government, trust the feds, that's the Christian thing to do. And yet ask them, I still do. I'm still asking questions. I find Frank Turek's entire narrative to be something worth prodding. Were I the lead investigation on this assassination, right? If I was the, uh, the lead investigator I would be interested in all of these call logs because a 35-year-old man at 2:23 PM with ties to the Pentagon and the Air Force live streaming, it doesn't, doesn't register to me as likely. I just brought it. Maybe it's true. Maybe that's it. Maybe everything he said is true. But I'd like to, I'd like to find out. Anyway, we'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, a little while ago I shared my exciting news that our family is growing. We are expecting another baby. As exciting as this season is, it's also a reminder that every new chapter brings new responsibilities.

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Top comment from yesterday's episode. Senti D'Akira writes, nothing says I'm being paid better than calling that grainy video crystal clear. Yeah, we are at the final instruction phase where they tell you not to believe your own eyes. They just tell you what you're seeing and it's literally not what you're seeing. They just show a video of the back of Tyler Robinson in a room. They're like, look. It's Tyler Robinson turning himself in. No, that's actually not Tyler Robinson turning himself in. That's Tyler Robinson in an interrogation room. We have no idea how he got into this interrogation room. That's— we'd like to see footage of him turning himself in. We'd like to see footage of him confessing to the crime, which many influencers stated before we got here. That's just a video of somebody in an interrogation room. So don't stop telling us not to believe our own eyes. Just be honest. And calling it crystal clear— by the way, I should mention this— Like, we are starting to go back and look at all of those early interviews. Do you know that 5 days on— I wish I had pulled the clip, but we just saw it before we went live.

We were watching Dan Bongino on Megyn Kelly, actually. And 5 days after the assassination, he gets up there and he keeps saying the footage is too grainy. He's like, the FBI has tools, but the footage is grainy, and yada yada yada. Basically saying, because she's asking him what's up with the screwdriver. That's how we landed upon it, because we were like, literally, how, what, how did we come across this screwdriver? The screwdriver just doesn't make any logical sense. And so we were trying to figure out when the FBI, uh, came out with this narrative and what they were initially saying. And Megan is asking him, hey, we're all a little bit confused about this screwdriver. And she asks this on September 15th, and he says, yeah, you know, we were kind of trying to figure out what was going on with the screwdriver, but we can't really see it because it's very grainy. The footage is very grainy. So 5 days after the assassination, with all of the tools available to the FBI, they said that the footage was grainy. How exactly Was it suddenly enhanced? When was it suddenly enhanced and became crystal clear?

That sounds to me like it was tampered with, because if Dan Bongino, who is the assistant director of the FBI, is saying that they can't— they can't— it's too grainy 5 days after, how does it— how does it suddenly become crystal clear? Maybe there's an answer, but it sounds to me, um, a little suspect, just a little suspect. Um, second comment, a comment from yesterday's episode is from Selena. She writes, having you as a close friend was one of the best decisions Charlie could have made. You know, we had such a great time together, and I'm glad that I'm able to like laugh at it and remember it. And there are little things, even when people attack me, sometimes it brings back a funny memory. I, when I was in Spain, um, I saw this like, uh, you know, one of these desperate Jeremy Boreing things where he's like hosting anybody who will say something about me. And he was, he's particularly hosted this guy Mark Meckler, and I had such a giggle about Mark Meckler, like, telling this obscure story, uh, that I was, like, mean to him. Charlie and me, literally all of our messages, which I still have, of course, we're just, just referred to him as the Snakeler instead of Meckler, the Snakeler.

And we would just have this running joke because we— he was so lazy and basically was trying to get Charlie to do his work, um, and telling donors to, like, force Charlie to, uh, just attach Convention of the States to Turning Point USA. That was what he was working on, but he didn't want to do any work. He just wanted to wine and dine donors. And so we would just back and forth, just make jokes about the snake-ler, and we would ask each other to do absurd tasks like, hey, could you pull together a budget for me? Gonna need that by Monday. And that just made me laugh. So even the people who are attacking me sometimes make me laugh because they're just going out of the woodwork to the end, just trying to find anyone. But I'm just glad that I can remember these things, remember these moments. I'm so grateful that I never delete anything on my phone, which drives my husband crazy. He's always about, you have to have a clean digital life. And when he, when we first got married, he was like, what do you mean you still have your email from third grade?

And I was like, I don't know, I just like to keep everything. I just don't really like to delete my digital life. And he's like meticulous with his digital life and deletes everything. So, um, I'm, it's one of the things I'm grateful for is that I didn't delete anything and I can just remember it all. And by the way, Tyler Boyer, even that, the chats, 'cause we would also chat about Mark Meckler and it's, you just wonder when it— when things became so fictitious in his life, you know. Anyway, um, we have some more comments from today's episode. Oh, first I wanted to show you, uh, The Vulnerable Project is coming out with a new documentary. And as we are discussing Israel's intrusion, literal attempt to run psychological operations on our, our mind, which if you have not yet read that time.com piece about how much they are spending on these bots and influencers. And you should, like I said, take time to read through the paradox of faith by works. Understand they are targeting not just MAGA influencers, they are particularly targeting Christians. And this is the exact strand of Christianity that these people like Frank Charek and Allie Beth Stuckey come from.

Um, and I think it is especially horrific when you utilize people's faith to lie to them, uh, to try to make them believe in the make-believe, like total make-believe of, well, You know, God says you shouldn't question a widow and/or 30-odd-six Superman neck and it's a miracle like Christ. It is a level of evil that there will be consequences for. I really do believe that, you know, you hopefully will repent, apologize, and correct course, but you should not manipulate people using a Bible and only because you want them to support Israel. Anyway, the Vulnerable Project, Vulnerable People's Project is coming out with a new documentary about what's going on um, and I think— hope I'm saying it right— Tebe, pardon me, in Israel. You may have seen that village, like oldest Christian village, just being burned, and they're sending in the settlers. I truly believe this is going to be the fate of America if we don't pay attention, as our government is attempting to merge with Israel. What they are doing in their own, uh, what they are doing to the Palestinians will be done here. It's not a joke. You don't side with evil and think that that chicken, um, is not going to come home to roost.

Of course it will. And these settlers are nasty. Anyway, I want to show you this quick, uh, trailer about the occupation that's happening there in Taipei.

Wait, a settler tried to choke you and your mother? You called the police and the police arrested you and your mother?

Yes.

And you— this is so evil, it's hard to— it's hard to digest it. Harassment, harassment after harassment. Harassment after harassment. Going to work, you get harassed. Going to school, you get harassed. Staying in your own home, you get harassed. One of them told me that in Arabic, "I can come back anytime, anywhere, and do whatever I want." In Taibe, the West Bank's last fully Christian town.

This is the village of Taibe.

It's one important Christian village on the occupied West Bank. They started like 2 families, 3 families, and then a small fence around these containers. This settlement will cause us to leave. Denk an den 31. Juli! Wieso? Last call für deine Steuer! Oh no, ich weiß gar nicht, wo ich anfangen soll. Bei WISO Steuer, das ist wie Steuererklärung, nur ohne Stress. Ist das einfach? Klar, macht fast alles automatisch. Dauert das lange? Nö, einfach per App. Na dann, hol dir jetzt dein Geld zurück mit Wieso Steuer. Bis zum 31. Juli abgeben. There is a lot of people also thinking to leave because there is no work, no safety, no security, and we have daily fear. I ask myself if Jesus Tell me tomorrow what he will think, what he will say. You think I'm not afraid? Do you think I'm not afraid? I'm afraid from them. Anyway, we will be uploading new episodes each month. Each month we feature those unheard stories from around the world onto our website, CandaceOwens.com. Very important for you guys to understand what is actually happening in Israel, because like I said, it is going to be our future. Okay, jumping into some more comments from today.

Uh, Jenna writes, please shout out, shout out to my 83-year-old father who just finished the Sean Ryan interview you gave. His mind is blown. All that he thought was true is now in question. I am almost done reading Make Him a Sandwich. I'm excited for the book club tomorrow. Our Lady of Mount Carmel, pray for Candace. Um, you didn't tell me your dad's name, so I can't shout him out, but hello, Dad, who watched the Sean Ryan interview. I haven't even been able to say to you guys the comment section on the Sean Ryan interview. We obviously did— we went 5 hours, and, uh, it's the most iconic comment section plausibly ever on YouTube. I think it could have been the impetus behind the Turning Point USA crash-out. I do believe it's also the most successful Sean Ryan episode ever in terms of just raw numbers climbing to like 6 million views in what, a week already? And the comment section really tells you how people feel about the Charlie Kirk assassination. We didn't just, of course, discuss Chuck assassination. We discussed my background, and people got to hear more about that, which they don't often get to hear because there's so many lies being written about me nonstop.

And I just think people— I mean, I was, I was surprised by the reaction to it. It was really tremendous. We had people reaching out from everywhere, and I didn't expect it, um, to make that much of a splash. But I'm so grateful that you guys got to hear more about my story. It's been a long time since someone has given me a sincere interview. Every time I go to do any interviews, I'm in a war zone and I'm fighting, you know, constantly, all the time, with people because I just don't want to sell my soul. And we got to talk about the occult, we got to talk about Freemasons, my belief that, um, Charlie was murdered and it was a Freemasonic ritual, occult ritual. And I— that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it until proven otherwise, which we certainly haven't been yet. Actually, I can show you some of these comments. I'm now in my comment section going on to Sean Ryan's comment section, but these are just some of them. I pulled the 30-06 out of my skinny jeans to watch this. I stopped my Zoom call laughing— Zoom call laughing at emojis to watch this.

I took a break from my MKUltra lab research experiment to come watch this. I paused removing 10 inches of soil from my yard to watch this. I put on my tight leather pants and Janet Jackson hat to watch this. I forgot my screwdriver on the roof rushing to watch this. I just took all of the SD cards out of my cameras to watch this. I stopped cleaning up a crime scene to watch it. I mean, it goes— you can't— there's no bottom to this. It is so funny. We were actually screenshotting. Somebody said the comment section deserves its own Netflix session. Um, I literally was screenshotting these and sending it around to the team going, this is the most— I've never seen it go on and on and on like this. I stopped at a Dairy Queen to watch this. Uh, yeah, it does deserve its own Netflix special. So wanted you guys to know you really made me laugh when I was going through that comment section. And yeah, I think it might be the reason that Turning Point USA was so angry at me and went really full bore while I was away.

And we'll see, we will see what they have, uh, what they're gonna do. I just don't know what direction that company is going to go in. A couple more comments from today's episode. This is written by Hamu, I think. Hope I'm saying that right. Since we've paused the exploited culture wars used to pit Americans versus Americans, I also think it's high time we acknowledge why and how they've attempted to use Candace's identity to try to make her look crazy. This is not the first time in history this has happened. No, it's, it's a long story of when people begin telling the truth about what's happening, they are instantly called crazy, and sometimes they are made crazy by— if you go into what Kanye was telling you— forcing, um, psychological cocktails on them. They put them on a 5150 hold. This gets into what Harvey, um, blanking on his last name, uh, did to Kanye, right? He put him on a 5150 hold. I can't believe Kanye's wife at the time allowed that to happen, his trainer to call an ambulance and say, you need, you need sleep because Harley Pasternak, your gym trainer, says so.

And they do a cocktail that can cause you to then have mental issues for life. This is obviously what was also done to Britney Spears. You can only imagine what she lived through as a young woman in the industry, um, meant to just sell sex at all times. Because I was younger than Britney Spears, I did not fully appreciate. When I go back and I listen now to that music that I thought was so cool, I'm looking, going, this is a 14-year-old little girl and you're sexualizing her. I look back at Christina Aguilera's music, I'm—

this—

these—

they're 14 years old and you're asking them to sing about sex. What industry is this? So it's interesting that we are starting to have those sorts of understandings. Of course, they did to Michael Jackson. What did he say? Jew me, screw me. In his songs, he specifically laid out the Jews in Hollywood that were toying with his life, similar to what Kanye said when he tweeted that. But there were specific Jews in his life that were doing things to him. One of the reasons I was fired from Daily Wire was for suggesting that Michael Jackson could have been telling the truth and that maybe it's time to listen to whether or not there is a Jewish gang operating in Hollywood. When you get fired for saying there might be a Jewish gang, it kind of reinforces the idea that there is one. Like, because if I said, oh, there might be an Asian gang operating in Chicago, I'm gonna be like, you're not allowed to say that. Oh, there might be like a white gang somewhere, an Irish gang, no one cares. You say there's a Jewish gang in Hollywood and they're like, this is on your list of reasons you're fired.

You're not even allowed to speculate that Michael Jackson may have been telling the truth. Makes me think he definitely was. And then of course I've since learned all about how Hollywood was literally established by Jewish gangs. So that's not a— I was fired for telling the truth, or thinking about the truth, I guess. So, you know, it's always a, um, it's always an invitation to level up when people are trying to convince you that you're crazy. There were so many clues in that firing that made me— I'm so grateful that how it went down. Even Andrew Klavan's Christ is King video, because one of the more obscure points was he was upset that I mentioned Sigmund Freud And me going down the Sigmund Freud rabbit hole just revealed everything to me. Like, you know, the dark psych— psychiatry, the occult psychiatry. It, it brought me to understanding, uh, about propaganda, PR, these families that have been around forever, uh, and how they operate. And if I did not learn about Sigmund Freud and how he basically just mainstreamed gaslighting people, I don't know that I would've survived the, what were psychiatric attacks. That's what they were trying.

They were trying to break me. And they still try to break me, especially after Charlie's death. They really came in. But now that I know that that is their tool, that is their instrument, we will break you psychologically, being aware of it makes you stronger. 'Cause you see it, you recognize it, you go, ah, I know what you're doing. That's a Sigmund Freud technique. You're telling me I said something wrong when I said genocide is always wrong? Nope, I did not. You doing the genocide is what's wrong. Anyway, I'm kind of, uh, going over time here, but, uh, F.S. Clare writes, there are always strong signals. There is a United States government hand at play. Number 1, unexplainable tech failures. 2, a seizure of cameras. 3, authorities finding overwhelming evidence. 4, security measures magically failing in the exact way to make the event possible. Notice the pattern. Yeah, I mean, the absurdity of— yeah, that totally was there, but unfortunately my body cam has amnesia. Okay, Les Mo Richie writes, do you think Megyn Kelly will course correct and call out the paid influencers Jack and Benny for blatantly lying about what they saw in court last Friday?

It is shocking that she's buying the Fed slop given that she's an attorney by trade and typically more discerning. Uh, okay, I would— I haven't watched because I was obviously on vacation and then I had to play catch-up and was trying to watch on vacation the trial, but I did see people pinging me about Megyn Kelly and saying she's hosting these people. Okay, I think she has a lot of background with these people, so I think she's naturally more trusting and is obviously thinking— I'm just trying to see her perspective— maybe I'm getting a scoop to this because these people are actually on the ground, and why would these people be exaggerative? I didn't see it. They're saying this is what they saw. Why would I discount what they're saying? I don't know that she caught the— what then was leaked afterward about the— it actually just being a zoomed-in version of 12.4. That they saw. I don't know what, what her mindset is, but what I think we can assume— and also it is good to remember that Megyn Kelly stood up to all of these people and told the truth about what Charlie was fearing in the last days.

And that was not an easy thing to do. They came after her hard. They continue to come after her hard every day, demanding that she's deplatformed for telling the most important truth. So what I can say is that I do believe that when this trial goes through, when they make the decision in September that this is going to go through, and more evidence is presented, I think she will follow that because they can't hide behind, oh, it's just going to be influencers that see it. I, I think that— I think she'll change her mind. I do. I think that she will change her mind when presented with more evidence. She may not be the first, but I don't think she's gonna be trusting influencers to inform her opinion when, when the trial goes through and is approved. So I'm going to grant her that courtesy because I, I still think what she did was a tremendous act of bravery. Following the Charlie assassination, when I was swimming in people calling me a liar about the Israel thing. I feel like her and Tucker Carlson were the only two people that had the courage to tell the truth about what Charlie was going through.

So let's give her some time. Alaska, uh, Dog Lady writes, in our house we all say my husband can say no to everyone but our daughter. They know it too. Go George! Way to be a solid girl, Dad. Christ is King. It's true. It's— there's— it is such a beautiful part of life, dads and their daughters. And I remember being pregnant and telling him you are not going to be able to tell her no. I just know it, you know. Oh, it's gonna be— little hand goes up, and suddenly we're on a— he's on a hunt. I don't do it when, when he's traveling. And she tried that one time with me. She's like, I lost my— I literally just scooped her and put her in my bed, and I was like, go to sleep, go to sleep, we're going to sleep right now. Dad's not here. No one is hunting for the Squishmallow, okay? This is the Squishmallow. The strawberry Squishmallow will be found at a different time. But it is, it is really sweet and he just adores her and that's how it should be. I always say that. I'm like, I know that how much it meant that my grandfather just positively spoiled and adored me.

And I still, it just impresses you for life and it sets your standards as well for what you will accept. When you see a man leading in a certain way and it's important, it's important to have that. Alaska Dog— oh, I just read that. This is a different— Amber writes, Candace, I love and respect your investigation, but I don't understand how you can acknowledge Israel being problematic but still be a Christian. I love Jesus, but I am deconstructed. The Old Testament is full of genocide. Um, how do you reconcile that? This— that is a much deeper and broader discussion that we should have about theology, and there will be a time for it, actually quite soon, because I am in the process of getting a priest who was known to come on the show, and I want to dive into these topics. I always have the perspective that it's not my place, and you, you see that I, I have the opposite perspective as a lot of these Christian influencers, that I have always been really authentic in my journey and open about what brought me to my faith and my perspectives. But I always think that when you have questions, I, I do believe in the authority of the church.

I don't believe in influencers. I don't believe in podcasters. I believe in the authority of the church where you should You should relay those questions and you should ask them. I asked every single one of them and I'm content with the answers that I got. And so I'd love to open this discussion more, but on the topic of theology and on the topic of faith, I always just like to be in the presence of someone who knows more than I do. I am a layman of the church and I am still learning. I make so many mistakes. I, that's why I am blessed with the sacrament of confession which I should probably use more often. But, um, yeah, more to come on that, as I know a lot of people always want to speak to me about faith, and there's a time and a place for that, I think, and an authority that should be present. This Ray Pen writes, love and support from Manila. Wow, the Philippines! Candace, thank you for what you do. Go Max! Crisis King! Squishmallows! Don't get one, guys. Don't get one. Um, this person writes, first movie pushed by Influencible was Sound of Freedom, the same messaging as Frank's book.

Christians love a cinematic movie on their themes, and Parscale pushed it. Yeah, I have a lot to think now about Tim Ballard, how I met all of these people sort of through PragerU, and I reconsider that. I re-examine that time. A lot of these pastors are introduced by PragerU, and they've never lied about who they are. And their connection, obviously, to the Mossad. So it, it is, in my view, a full psychological operation. This person writes, girl, many of us have the courage to speak up because of your example. I hope so. I really hope so. And I thank you guys so much for supporting us. Also want to remind you that if you'd like to continue to support us, you can head to CandaceOwens.com. You can join the book club, you can buy a Standis cup, you can buy a Daddy's Home Shabbat Shalom sweatshirts. This looks great, right? It looks good. Daddy's home, Shabbat shalom. Mommy's home, Shabbat shalom. And joining the book club, we are meeting tomorrow, which would be an extended book club 'cause I owe you guys one. And I'm excited about diving into this chapter of the book. It actually is perfect timing as we're talking about Frank Turek to revisit that region of the world where his family came from.

Yeah, you know, I already know everybody's great-granddaddies. I have to know, I need to know what everybody's great-granddaddies did, where they came from. And then it suddenly starts to click and it makes sense. And that entire family is just royalty, military royalty. Um, and that's not a good thing. If I'm saying you're military royalty, it's not a good thing. I mean, his wife's side as well, I mean, high-up military people, Raytheon, Arizona. It's just, it's a lot. It's a lot to take in. And I maintain my position that the Charlie Kirk assassination, until I'm presented with true evidence to the contrary and not influencers, looks to me like it was a military operation. We'll see. We'll see as the trial goes through. Um, other than that, we will see you guys on Monday.