Transcript of Charlie’s Final Ride To The Hospital Isn’t Adding Up. Neither Is Daily Wire’s Accounting. | Ep 355

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Alright, you guys, happy Wednesday to everyone except— except Brian Harpole. What an absolute nutcase, am I right? I mean, you guys flooded us with comments yesterday— doctors and nurses and ER techs. You guys were just on fire about the absurd story he presented wherein he led the OR team, he took a gurney, pushed Charlie into a vacant room, jumped on top of him, apparently found some scissors and cut his t-shirt off from his body. I mean, what in the fantasy series are we even talking about? Not even in the fictional world of Grey's Anatomy, because they want it to be realistic. I think Brian— say, liar, liar, pants on fire— and feel free, Brian, to add that statement to your lawsuit against me— the story that you described did not happen in an emergency room. Now, I want to especially appreciate those of you who pointed out the additional absurdity of him claiming that he jumped on top of Charlie to cut the shirt off. Because why, sir? Are you 3 feet tall, Brian Harpole? Why would any adult-sized man ever need to physically jump atop a gurney to cut a t-shirt off? Like, are you miniature, Brian Harpole?

Are you not taller than a bed? Do you think that that's what surgeons are doing? Paramedics jumping on top of people to cut a shirt off? I mean, it is an astoundingly dumb story the more you think about it. So the question is, why did he tell it? That's what we're going to explore today, because me thinks it might be because it offers another clue as to what actually went down on the way to the hospital, you know, since they have conflicting stories, him and Frank Turek. We're going to talk about that. And speaking of miniature, uh, Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire is still crashing and burning financially. Semaphore released an article, and it looks like since they can't find a private equity firm dumb enough to invest in them, they are going to attempt a Hail Mary pass. They think you guys, the people back at home, are dumb enough to invest in them by buying shares. They're gonna go for an IPO, putting themselves on, on the stock market. Would you purchase stock in The Daily Wire? Are you an idiot like Brian Harpo? Let's find out. Welcome back to Candace. Boy, oh boy, do I love you sleuths back home.

Okay, I have to tell you, crowdsourcing to solve a globally consequential murder, this might be the first time it's ever been done in the history of the world, but it should not be the last time. Check out this email that we got yesterday in response to our show that we presented, uh, what another, another sleuth actually happened to notice yesterday, that mysterious white on on the black tempered glass shards that were shattered in the back of the SUV. Uh, that sleuth from yesterday pointed to the plausibility that Charlie's road mic was rigged to explode. They said, look, there's white on some of these pieces, Candus. Well, then we had someone send us an email and they started putting the pieces together. One crucial piece. They wrote, dear Candus and team, I'm watching your show from earlier today. I'm in France and I had to stop watching when you showed the shards. After reading that email, I quickly spotted the USB logo on the Shard at the 15-minute 30-second mark, the one to the left of the screen closer to you, and I wanted to check out— check it. Please see below. All I did was screenshot your video and rotate the bit with the Shard to line it up with a promo shot of the Rode mic.

I think there's no room for doubt here. It's clearly the USB logo and/or icon. Game over. Feel free to get in touch if you have any questions. I'm gonna show you, this is what they attached to, like, from our show, the picture. Uh, and they then obviously flipped it and showed that that was the USB. I think this is incredible. Legendary Inspector Gadget finding. We did it ourselves. We can blow up that image and rotate it as well and put it side by side with the Rode Mic's, um, UBS. Icon. So that really is something I, I do feel like this is what we have to do. We have to get really molecular to close this case. I do believe firmly that it was Charlie's road mic bits that were shattered all over the car floor. And by the way, you guys were so in the weeds on this that I even had opticians emailing me to inform me that it was not possible for it to be sunglasses on the ground. The emails were like, hey, I don't know if you know this about sunglasses, but they're actually not allowed to shatter like that.

There's a whole process in how they're created because obvious obviously they are covering people's eyes, so they cannot create them, uh, in a circumstance in which they might shatter and glass would get all over people's eyes. Which is why, generally speaking, you know, if you break your sunglasses, it's— if you break your glasses, they maybe crack, um, or the, the— it just— the lens just pops out of the frame. And it was amazing. I'm learning so much. And she sent me step by step of the qualifications, what they have to pass, the inspections they have to pass. Anyway, this brings us to Brian's Pinocchio movie, the emergency room edition, because why exactly did Brian Harpole spin such an extraordinary tale? A tale that I can tell you has upset deeply people who work in emergency rooms all around the world. A frankly implausible story because outside of blatant corruption, incompetence, a flagrant violation of every known law and hospital policy on the books, we can assume Brian Harpole is telling a porcupine, right? So let's at first relisten to his extraordinary story because it is important and it requires our imagination. Take a listen.

We get to the hospital, uh, actually we make it to the hospital through the traffic. We've got full wound pack in, we get out and we carry in to the door. So once we make it into the door where we see a gurney on the left-hand side, we put him on a gurney and then I wheel him into a room. I start giving the patient information to the staff there. I end up getting on top of him and cutting the shirt that he had on off, that white Freedom shirt. And so I cut it off so they could get to him so that I didn't articulate this to them, but I wanted to get that stuff off so they could put a defibrillator on him. And so, uh, um, and then started talking about pushing drugs. And so I was back and forth with them on drugs and defibrillator. And, uh, and so then, um, you know, once you get that cut shirt off, shirt cut off and moved out of the way, you know, there's enough medical professionals in there, and so I just want to get out of their way. And so I got out of their way and walked out of the room and stood outside the room and held guard on the outside door of the room so nobody else could come in there.

Yeah, I'm going to start doing that when I go to the ER. I'm not going to wait in line. I'm going to grab gurneys. I'm going to start telling them what kind of drugs to give them and guard the doors. So we have to ask ourselves, what is Brian Harpole trying to answer for here with his story, right? He's actually admitting something. Common sense, every fib that is told is only told because you're trying to cover up a truth or explain a truth that might not make sense, right? So what Brian is, I think, rather truthfully admitting here is that he was the person responsible for the removal of Charlie Kirk's shirt, right? No other way to insert your— no other reason to insert yourself into that narrative unless that piece is true. Which, as we explore our rigged microphone theory, is an admission that Brian Harpole would be the person responsible for removing the, uh, biggest piece of explosive residue evidence— Charlie's shirt. He is attempting to make that sound reasonable to the public. I was worried about the defibrillator, and that's the reason why I cut Charlie's shirt, in case you find that that shirt had been cut using scissors later down the line.

Now, since I do not accept that a random dude took command over a hospital ER room and was grabbing gurneys, um, and was allowed to freely jump across on, on top of— pardon me— a bleeding victim with a pair of scissors in hand— someone you don't— is this the person who harmed him? I don't accept any of this. I have to then logically consider that Ryan removed Charlie's shirt somewhere else, right? And the only other option would be in the car on the way over to the hospital. Now, beyond anything else, the story that Brian tells us about what did happen in the car does not match the evidence of what we see in the photos that we were never supposed to have in our possession. These photos were never supposed to see the light of day. So let's review Brian's claims so that you understand them, okay? First, we submit to you all a, a graphic of how they all piled into the car. Okay, so we are in a GMC SUV. You've got Dan Flood there in the passenger seat. You got Justin Davis driving. We have Brian Harpole, um, Rick Cutler in that middle row.

Charlie is going to be across them. You note his legs are hanging out of the door. We're going to discuss that in a second. And in the back seat to himself is Frank Turek. So here are the facts based off of Brian Harpole's testimony. You know, they have different testimonies, but Brian Harpo's testimony regarding that short journey to the hospital, uh, the hospital was about 8 minutes away. If you look that up just on Google Maps, that's if you're doing the speed limit. But they were not doing the speed limit. Brian makes it clear that they were going 60, 80, 100 miles per hour. That's what he says. We're going 60, 80, 100 miles per hour weaving through the streets. So what we can reasonably deduce from that statement is that there was no traffic. On their way to the hospital. You can't hit those speeds if there is traffic. And so they probably arrived faster than the 8-minute Google Maps, uh, um, uh, estimation. We can safely assume that means that they, they shaved off a couple of minutes, approximately, let's say, a 6-minute ride. I think that's fair, right? It's also important to note that Brian claims that they did not close the car door uh, which was behind him as he was working on Charlie, where he was sitting, right?

He says it was because Charlie's legs were too long and they just needed to quickly get out of there. If you go back and watch footage of them pulling out, you can indeed see that the door is ajar. So let's assume that's true. And instead, how they dealt with this door, which was open while they're doing 60, 80, 100 miles per hour, is Rick Cutler holds Brian Harpole steady as Brian is working on Charlie. Okay, so he's trying to stop the bleeding in his neck according to Brian Harpole, and Rick Cutler is basically— he's entrusting his life to Rick Cutler. Take a listen to Brian's own words on this.

The problem is we're going down the road and Charlie's so tall that his leg, his left leg, is down in the door and the door won't close. And so I'm on my knees with the door open, with my butt hanging out of the side, and I'm on my knees doing the medical. And Justin's driving, you know, we're going 60, 80, 100. And Rick has me across the kit in my shirt so that I can use both hands to do the medical one. And so I don't fall out of the fucking car. So I don't fall out. And I just look at him and I don't need to say, "You got me." He's got me. I know he's got me. Rick's a brother. He's got the tattoo. And so I was like, "Yeah, he's got me." And so I just, I'm just working medical. And Frank's praying out loud. Rick's praying out loud.

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Okay, so if you're imagining that, we're gonna try to do like a really sloppy AI to present that to you. But if you're thinking, by the way, hey, Frank's in the backseat, he's not doing anything, could he maybe just kind of lean over and close the door. Well, you heard him. Frank, according to Brian, was simply praying in the back seat. He's on his knees on the ground. Uh, we've got Rick Cutler reaching over to him, and he then claims that during this time, while Rick is holding him— Rick is busy, Frank's praying, you got those other two in the front— he's going to put 36 feet of dressing around Charlie's neck. 36 feet. I want you to hear him say it. That's a remarkable amount. Very short drive. He's working, like he says, quickly. Take a listen.

I've gotta stop that bleeding. That's my primary thing.

Mm-hmm.

And so, whether he had a— where he had a pulse then, it's unknown. The body's an amazing thing that can do things even when it's technically, you know, destroyed. And so, uh, my concern is bleed control. And so I'm just— uh, Rick's got me, Justin's driving, uh, World's coming by. Uh, I'm working, uh, putting— I end up putting, uh, about 36 feet of, uh, dressing in him, uh, and then 4, uh, 4x4s and then 2 hemostatic 4x4s.

Sheesh.

Now, um, yeah, again, I'm wondering, could Frank Turk come in for an assist here? But he does make it clear that he doesn't know whether or not Charlie has a pulse. They're not doing CPR because his, his focus is on getting his wound dressed. And he also says the human body is amazing. I mean, we've learned that. It's so amazing it stopped a .30-06, £3,000 of energy coming at him in a bullet. So why not just keep going, "Let's just hope for more miracles here," not check his pulse and not do CPR, and just worry about stopping the bleeding with 36 feet. 36 feet of dressing. And he repeats that story to Paramount Not So Tactical in a separate interview. Take a listen.

We're getting off the accident, so I'm on my knees, um, and, um, I'm both hands, uh, and I'm starting to pile out, like,— pack pressure, exactly. And the saturation point's unbelievable. And you're not pulling it out, you're adding to it, right? And so we're getting that down in there. And I remember it's a training point we've done to it before, but, and there has to be a better way, like a manufacturer, maybe we can go into it. It's like that little slit on the side of those, it— You talking about the hemostatic gauze?

Right.

Yeah.

It's like, gosh, actually, I usually go in and actually cut them a little bit more. But then, you know, it's like, ah, but we need something to pull. We need something in real time, Rob. And so I'm opening those with my mouth and then putting them down and then spreading it out a little bit and then putting them down so I can get a pack in that. And then I'm holding it there and then working off the other one.

Okay, so 12 yards, 36 feet. He's opening the packs. He's talked about he's got 2 packs of this with his with his mouth, discussing how difficult it is to open those packs. Miraculously, there's no evidence of that in the car. What there is evidence of is that he used one 4x4 EMS QuickClot dressing, which he admits he used that just one pack. Here is the picture. We can actually look at the floor, and we have the entire floor of the back of where he was, and you can see that he's got that one pack, which he potentially opened with his mouth. On the side. All of that looks to be a fact check true. And I just want you to see, like, this is 4x4 dressing. Here's the actual pack that's available online. Um, I don't know what to think about why there's not more, um, why we can't see more. If he's, if he's pulling out all of this on the ground, I would expect to see more, unless they mysteriously cleaned up the other packs that he was opening. Note, those 4x4 packs, those are just 10 centimeters, 10 centimeters by 10 centimeters.

Nowhere near, um, the 12 feet, uh, the 36— the 36 feet that he's talking about. Now, he certainly, and it sounds like, also had a roll of dressing, but those are sold at just 4 yards a roll. So why on earth did Brian have handy 6 rolls of dressing in his small medical bag in addition to clotting, um, packages? That just seems to me to be very excessive, and like, we should see some evidence of that on the ground. Okay, I'm just asking you to park that information in the back of your mind. There's a reason for that. If we continue to look at the actual evidence of the car, we then have to ask ourselves, what could account for Frank Turek's— and it has to be a lie according to Brian Harpole, it's a lie— Frank Turek says that he himself, Frank, tried to start CPR. And to be clear, we can immediately determine that Frank Turek is likely the one lying in that scenario and not Brian Harpole because Charlie was lying across the seats, okay? His middle section was therefore not flat. You cannot conduct emergency CPR on a person that is laying across two captain chairs with their midsection in the air.

Brian, both of his hands are occupied. He would be— it's not an ideal position at all, but like, he's the person that would be in the position to address Charlie's chest area. It's not possible. Okay, you need a flat surface to do CPR. Everybody knows this, and Brian has already admitted that it was him that was on the floor, down on one knee beside the chair, because Charlie's legs were dangling off. Okay, here's a very bad AI diagram that we're trying to show you of what Brian Harpole is saying happened, right? He would be— Brian would probably be a little more backed up toward the end there. And of course, we know Rick is going to be pulled over to the side holding on to him. Frank Turek is in the back seat. You're not conducting CPR in this environment. I cannot stress enough that CPR could not have been conducted in that car. Brian is telling the truth twice when he says that. He focused on the bleeding, he says. So why is there this disconnect? Why not just simply say, if you're Frank Turek, yeah, I was just praying in the back? I'm gonna tell you what I think.

I'm gonna tell you why I think, similar to what I said before, when you are telling a little bit of a pork pie. The rule is, is because you're trying to introduce a truth that doesn't really make sense. Okay, so here's what I think, not what I know. This is the allegedly, if O.J. Simpson did it. Okay, not fact, my opinion. Allegedly, allegedly. I suspect that the CPR story, which cannot be true and which Brian Harpole says is not true, Uh, was necessary because Frank needed an excuse for why he changed into hospital scrubs when he got to the hospital. Remember, Frank did not help carry Charlie into the back of the car. He did not run over to Charlie, um, when Charlie got hit. He never traverses over Charlie's body or near the men that were holding him to get into the car. Do not forget, Frank climbed into the SUV from the trunk. He didn't even have to go through— excuse me, let me— he climbed in through the trunk cleanly. Let's watch Frank get into the car, courtesy of Terrell Farnsworth. Take a look at this. Watch that trunk. There's Frank. He's gonna get in that way.

Nope, Rick's gonna be busy. He gets in, runs around, and opens the trunk and gets into the car clean. Fresh white polo shirt. So Frank did not touch Charlie after Charlie got hit. He did not help transport Charlie into the SUV, and he entered clean through the trunk, meaning there shouldn't be any blood spill on Frank Turek. Okay, if actually he had to willfully hop over from the trunk to even get into the back seat in the first place, the back seat, which should have been clean according to the story that Brian is telling So given those facts and given Brian's testimony that Frank just prayed while they worked, um, how did he get so much blood on him? He certainly should not have had a significant amount of blood which required him to change his clothes into surgical scrubs at the hospital. How did he get so much blood on him? He needed a story, in my opinion. I tried to start CPR. I was— I— we tried to do CPR. That's why I was touching Charlie, by the way. I wanna be clear, there's no such thing as we when it comes to the physical touch of CPR.

One person conducts the CPR, another person might help count, breathe into the mouth, but delivering chest impressions is not a team sport. You can switch on and off. Brian says we didn't do that. And the person, we don't even know if he had a pulse. That's what he said. Why would you conduct CPR if you're not, like, none of it makes any sense. And like I said, the person who would've been in the worst possible position to give impressions, give compressions to Charlie's chest outside of the driver would be the man from the trunk amidst 36 feet of gauze being unrolled and wrapped around somebody's neck. So what do our, our eyes tell us happened in this car? When we look at the shards, when we listen to Frank's discrepancy, when we listen to Brian's discrepancy, they're implausible stories. One trying to suggest why he cut off the shirt, the other one trying to suggest why he had so much blood that he needed to change. Okay, let's consider this a critical thinking exercise. Again, we're theorizing here, not a fact, an opinion. Okay, we used to be able to do this, to think critically from the evidence that we can see in our car.

It looks to me like we can conclude firmly that Frank did indeed touch Charlie, and he got a lot of blood on his hands in the process. How do we know? Look at the back seat where only Frank was sitting. Here are our the photos that we showed you. We're going to zoom in here. Okay, forget the, the brown bag, but let's zoom in to see. There's blood on the seat. That looks to me like somebody just sort of wiped their hands that had blood on their seat. Okay, it looks like someone who was sitting in the back seat wiped onto the leather seats. Okay, that's got to be Frank Turek. Do we agree that Brian Harpole didn't jump over to the seat to wipe his hand? That Rick Cutler couldn't have because he's 100 miles per hour. Did he— most likely that's Frank Turek, who was sitting in the back seat praying. And, uh, it also looks like they used that brown paper, looks like an Uber bag, to wipe their hands onto the bag. That, that— now that could have been Brian. Maybe they passed it back and forth, who knows. Like I said, Frank was the only person in the back seat, so the natural question arises Um, with now that we're moving the plausibility of CPR, for what reason did Frank touch Charlie to the point that he may have acquired a lot of blood on his hands and a lot of blood on his clothes?

So here again is my theory, not a fact, that could make sense. I'm going to tell you a story, just a tale, and if I did it, all of them climbed into the car. The door was indeed left open, and so Rick Cutler's hands were indeed tied up, making sure that Brian did not fall out. Brian Harpole then whipped out his medical scissors, which are always pretty much safely in any medical bag. You're gonna have a small set of scissors. And he began cutting Charlie's shirt off of him in the car with about 5 to 6 minutes on the clock. Now, you should understand that it is not easy to cut through cotton using medical scissors. That's not what they're designed for. So with Rick Cutler's hands tied up holding Brian so that he wouldn't fall out of the car, Frank leaned over for the assist. Okay? Any person who has ever worked with fabric knows you, you need the tension of someone pulling the shirt to cut through it quickly, right? That's gonna be your easiest option is to try to cut through it and have someone pull to provide the tension so that it slices through.

Once the shirt was cut, they lifted up Charlie to pull it from under him. And that's where all our road mic glass went. All of the shattered road glass pieces that were on Charlie, under him, got wiped off of his body, brushed onto the floor, the floor, right? Landed onto the ground. Now we're getting close to the hospital. Brian then realizes we should have been providing neck assistance, not cutting off his, shirt. Um, and so he grabs a pack, maybe two, of QuikClot to put on Charlie's neck. Um, because otherwise there wouldn't have been any evidence that anybody was working on him on that very short ride as they were going to receive them at the hospital. Very— the very same reason they didn't put him into an ambulance potentially, um, is because they needed to remove Charlie's shirt and did not want people to ask questions about why or notice that there was this microphone bits that were all over Charlie's body. Now, under that totally imagined scenario, that would of course mean that Charlie arrived to the hospital without a shirt on. He was shirtless, which would've been an inexplicable oddity that would require, well, Kash Patel's FBI team to swoop in and to seize the cameras expeditiously, which they did.

We didn't understand at the time why, Why would they seize the cameras on the outside and on the inside of the hospital? We asked ourselves. That might be why. Again, we're using our imagination here. It makes sense to me that there was an oddity on camera with how Charlie showed up in that SUV, whether it was the wrong time, maybe, but I think it was his condition. Okay. Um, Yeah, uh, because it would've been an impossible thing to explain if for some reason somebody had leaked the footage of inside of the hospital emergency room. It, it's a lie so stupid to say that you jumped on top of him, all of which would've been filmed, right? They got— FBI just gotta step in and clean that up. That's, that's not— if that's the story we're going with, there can be no cameras of what happened on the inside. Now, why do this? Why remove his shirt? Well, because explosive residue is extremely contagious, so to speak. The microscopic particles are passed through even the most casual contact between two people, okay? It adheres to surfaces. Explosives are substances that have adhesive energy. If Charlie were in fact killed by an explosive, everyone who came into contact with his body would have had to get rid of their clothing, no questions asked.

They would have had to get— because they would have said, that is explosive residue. A bomb dog would have smelled that in 3 seconds, okay? Less than that. None of their clothing could have been tested or they would have had traces of explosives. Everybody who was near him, their clothes have to be abandoned. And you sure as heck, like I said, better keep the bomb dogs at bay. So it's just as well that they all admitted and came out and talked about how they got into these scrubs Not even that, but they also said that they, they threw out their clothes. And, but they again provided you with a reason, so that's not suspicious, right? Frank Turek told the story of why we'll never be able to see his clothes ever again. Take a listen.

We got to the hospital somewhere around 12:30. Um, he was shot right like maybe 12:20. It took us like 10 minutes to get there, maybe 15. We had no Just an SUV. We had no lights. We were just screaming.

Saw that.

Yeah. We get there. Mikey had already sent a plane to get Erica.

Right.

And she got there, I want to say about 3 o'clock. Talked to the doctor. Went up and had private time with Charlie's body, you know. It's about 5:30. I'm about the only one in the emergency room area just standing there. I'm in scrubs because—

Your clothes.

Clothes were— yeah, I didn't want her to see any of that.

No way. Well, two loving pastors discussing that they did this because they didn't want Erica to see him like that. He admits elsewhere he threw his clothes away. In essence, every crucial piece of evidence which might go some way of debunking the explosive theory was destroyed, given away for the almighty widow. How could you question it? Of course, of course, Jack Hibbs says, of course you got rid of your clothes. Why, you wouldn't want Erika to see the blood on your clothes. Yes. Everything we're doing makes sense. Of course she would want the cross. Who— it's very convenient that everywhere there would be evidence of explosive residue got taken care of. Hey, let's repave it like tomorrow, the entire scene, because she doesn't want to relive that. Tucker— I mean, not Tucker, Terrell— when I spoke to him, he used the widow. That was his excuse. I said, hey, why'd you take these cameras out? I didn't want Erica to relive Charlie dying. I said, Terrell, Carol, what do you mean? It's all over the internet. Why, why specifically the back cameras? You know, I, I spoke to Erica and I just didn't— I didn't want her to relive another angle of Charlie dying.

It's all very convenient. The widow is the most convenient person in the story if it's a cleanup job. We don't know. We don't know. No. We know. We'll be right back after the break. All right, you guys, our great nation turned 250 this year. 2 and a half centuries of possibility, growth, and some of the greatest minds in human history. What will the next 250 years hold? The next generation of Americans could be the most impactful. They must be given a chance at life. That is why I am making this critical request today. Give a special gift of $250 to PreBorn! to honor our country's 250th anniversary. And to celebrate our great future ahead. Your gift will help provide 8 ultrasounds. PreBorn! is helping today's mothers choose life by providing these free ultrasounds so that they can meet their baby for the first time. Help new mothers realize that they can give their baby life and that motherhood is possible. Celebrate America's birthday with your $250 gift to PreBorn! today. To donate, simply dial #250 and say the keyword baby. Again, that's #250baby. Or visit preborn.com/kandace. Again, that's preborn.com/kandace. I also want to tell you guys about the Wellness Company because Americans love sushi.

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Great question. We don't see them listed in evidence. That's a great question. Where are Charlie's pants? We're gonna probably hear a story about how special the pants were. I don't know, maybe they're at another fundraiser. My best guess is they are in the garbage or they are with Erica. Just like noticing some themes of the story, they were either thrown out or they are with Erica. We'll find out. And if anybody knows the answer to that question, hey, anybody at Timpanogos who recalls this incredible scene, um, please reach out to us. We'd like to know. By the way, speaking of my amazing, um, at-home sleuths, I was really surprised by how many people emailed us regarding my assessment from Erica's entirely different signature, that it correctly informed me when I researched this that that is a sign of dissociative identity disorder. And we talked about that yesterday. So many people reached out to me who have dissociative identity disorder or who had it, and all of them with the same stories. A trauma happened in their youth. They watched, like, you know, their dad kill their mom, um, they were abused as a child, and that they developed this ability to completely dissociate.

And there was one person who said, not only is what you're saying fitting perfectly with Erica, given everything that we know about her and her alters, so to speak, which means the different personalities that she has, like the holier-than-thou presentation of when she's married with Charlie, the anger that we see. But they said that is also a dissociative identity disorder, is a tell— one of the telltale signs is the eyes. And they sent me this. I don't know if we have it ready because I'm reading this from my phone, and it says, yes, dissociative disorders can show observable physical changes in the eyes, including a strained look, unblinking stares, or opening the eyes harshly, like that people immediately noticed about Erica. While dissociation is a mental defense mechanism, it heavily interacts with the autonomic nervous system and trauma responses, directly altering your facial tension and your pupil dilation and your eye, eye movements. Um, this is from the NHS website, by the way. Physical changes in the eyes during, uh, uh, dissociation is the trauma stare, which is known as harsh widening. When a person dissociates, the body's fight or flight system can spike, which floods them with adrenaline, which forces the pupils to dilate and the eyes to open harshly.

Like, that was the thing that we were like, she kept doing, and we were going, what's going on? Uh, another element of this is the fixed blank stare, which is like they're in a trance-like state. I have said that it's like she's not there. Um, a loss of visual focuses, and those are indicators that they are— they're switching. Like they're switching into another, I don't know, personality. And you guys are correct that, um, the history of that does go back to Project Monarch. This was intentional. Our government did a lot of experiments with that. The CIA trained people to intentionally disassociate people that are serial killers that are used as weapons, and they want to make sure that they lock down their personalities if the police ever come across them. There's a lot of evil intentional mental abuse that are imparted on victims because the government views that as an asset for people to be able to dissociate. So I wanted to point that out because I just— I'm always so stunned by what I am learning on this show from people. And to thank everyone who has had this disorder or has this disorder— I don't know if it's ever solved— for explaining to me their personal stories, and all of them saying that you do have these memory gaps.

Which we're seeing with her, where she just totally says something totally opposite and becomes a different person. Like, you can't just be anti-Israel and then, you know, pro-Israel. And usually in those climates when the CIA is involved in intentionally creating these abused people who float between different personalities, um, there is a handler, so to speak, who has the key to get them to switch into different personalities. There's a lot that can be done on that, a lot of literature that's been written. But if you're interested in that, as I am, you should definitely look into it further. Again, MKUltra program, uh, the stuff that our military got involved with, and, um, the beginning of that being Project Monarch, which took place in Germany, and we brought over all those psycho, um, psychoanalysts and psychologists who themselves were psychopaths. Okay, moving on to this item in Semaphore regarding The Daily Wire. Okay, before we actually even get to the article, which was obviously intentionally placed in Semaphore to attract potential investors. I, I just wanna show you this tweet from Dave Rubin, who the public sort of recently learned might not be smarter than a 5th grader because he went onto that debate show Jubilee.

I've done it in the past. Charlie Kirk's done it in the past. Ben Shapiro was on it in the past. You're sort of, you're surrounded by 20 progressive participants and you are debating them on something that you're passionate about. So I debated them on feminism. Uh, and I guess Dave Rubin decided he was gonna wing it on foreign policy and Trump and economics, and he got positively destroyed. In case you missed this, it was trending for like a week. We hadn't covered it particularly. He got destroyed on the topic of Israel and Trump's successes because my best piece of advice for debating anyone is to not take the obviously immoral and indefensible position in the debate. Like, don't arrive at a debate defending Israel's actions in Gaza. Don't arrive at a debate defending Trump's administration right now, right? And the Iran war. So I'm going to give you an example of his inability to articulate outside of his tribalism of anything that's Israel. Yay, yay, yay. He's unable to articulate to this person what Trump has done this time around to warrant any allegiance to him on the basis of his promises that he made to his voters.

Take a listen.

What is one main metric that Donald Trump has made better off since he got in office? Like, an example would be GDP, unemployment, inflation, etc.

Well, right now, first off, the big beautiful bill was just passed last year and it's kicking in now, right? It's kicking in now. Okay, so we are see— we're going to now see results of that. Like, even the tariffs. All right, so let's do tariffs. Are you for or against tariffs?

I'm against the universal tariff. So what's the main metric that he made better off?

What?

What's the main metric that he made better off? GDP, unemployment, inflation? Do you have any idea?

Listen, listen.

I don't think you do.

Narrator, he, he did not. He had not one point that he could deliver of what Trump did, but Trump allows Israel to bomb people and schools indiscriminately. Speaking of which, here is another moment where he clearly has no idea what's going on in Gaza, but like he's a Zionist, so let's rah-rah, it's all fine. Take a listen.

Trump made several campaign promises to his voters that he hasn't come through on, and yet we continue to hear you guys bootlick him all the time, and it's very frustrating.

The topic is the modern left cares more about ideology.

Yeah, and I disagree with the claim. I think that the modern right cares more about ideology.

I mean, what is it?

Let's look at some of the things that Trump ran on, right? He ran on an American first, America first campaign, and then he bombs Venezuela. Then he doesn't end the war in Israel, even though he promised he was going to do that.

But what do you mean?

The war is over.

The war's over?

No, it's very much—

there's a ceasefire. There's not one Israeli in Gaza. The hostages are home. There's reconstruction.

That's absolutely not true. But it's just fundamentally false.

You're saying there are hostages in Gaza right now and the war is continuing?

The conflict has continued. Yes, there have continued to be bombs and moving out.

They're bombing Gaza right now. That's what you're telling me?

Yes.

Yeah. Yeah.

That's not true.

I mean, I know you get your news from Grok, but like, this is a fact that is continuing to happen.

And then they fact-check him throughout the entire thing and he has no idea what he's talking about. And this has kind of been a theme. Like, he interviews a lot of people and it's fine to be an interviewer, but when you are going to kind of insert yourself as an intellectual, you got to do a little bit of reading and a bit of background and not go back on vibes. And even if you go back to Dave Rubin's book, which I read, don't burn this book, I knew he had no idea about foreign policy because there's a chapter where he actually published— I think this was back in 2020 when he published his book— that Ukraine was a member of NATO. I mean, that's so patently false, it's shocking that it even survived a fact check and got published on Stans. So he just has no idea what's going on, and he strikes me as someone who only reads headlines. So my suspicion was all but confirmed when Semaphore dropped an article about The Daily Wire, and Dave Rubin just tweets this, just full Zionist tribalism. He tweets, coming soon, um, from Daily Wire, Megan and Tucker tears Tumblr.

And he shares exclusive Daily Wire is in talks to take on at least $100 million in strategic investment with an eye on an IPO. That's all he read.

It's very clear.

That's all he read. He didn't even click the headline and get brought to the Semaphore website because if he had, if he wasn't winging it, he would have seen this fuller headline. Okay. He just couldn't be bothered. It reads, exclusive: Daily Wire under pressure, seeks strategic investors and targets an IPO. So the exact opposite thing is happening. The Daily Wire needs money, and here's what they're trying to do. They're trying to raise $100 million. They have been trying to raise money, um, for a very long time. And I have been saying on this show, I mean, the content of the article sums up what we've all known. The Daily Wire has been in a state of rapid decline. And they're seeking a way out after the last private equity firm clearly failed to rescue them. They're now turning to Highmount Capital to try to help them raise money at a valuation that is so absurd that they surely know they are not going to meet it. They're given their distressed financial state. And I gotta say, it brings me absolutely no pleasure to, to, to report at an organization that spent 2 years trying to bankrupt my family because I think genocide is always wrong.

Doesn't matter who's advocating for it. Doesn't matter if Trump is advocating for it, if it's Jared Kushner, if it's my side, if it's your side, if it's his side. It's wrong. Now they have found themselves in a situation that they attempted to really force upon me for WrongThink. And here are the main takeaways from the article. Finally, they admit, uh, that Pendragon, the Pendragon cycle, Jeremy Boring's pet project, is what caused a significant amount of financial duress for the company. Okay, they finally admitted that they spent $50 million on just 7 episodes. That's— that is just— you understand how crazy and insane that is. Um, they spent actually, by the way, to be clear, I've been saying the whole time more than $50 million, uh, closer to $60, but at least they're finally admitting that it wasn't $10 million or $7 million as it had been reported in the past. That means they spent more per an episode than HBO spent on the first season of Game of Thrones. I want you to process that, that, that is, uh, that is mania. That is Jeremy's mania. Okay? That is the single greatest contributor to the fall of the company.

Jeremy Boreing constantly needing to fulfill his childhood fantasies. Now, he tried to scrape back some of that price tag by getting rid of me. I've been telling you guys a story forever. They were under financial pressure. They needed to remove people that they were paying. They weren't gonna do Jordan Peterson, so they got rid of me in a rather glorious public firing. Which Jeremy was hoping would lead to more subs taking a moral position saying she's antisemitic. They were hoping that more people would sign up. Christ is King is antisemitic, but it actually backfired and it catalyzed their financial woes. That was then followed by Brett Cooper's exit later that same year, also because of Jeremy Boring and his mania. And then they tried to sell doing this exact same strategy, different private equity firm behind them. At the end of 2024, they were sort of like fake pumping their subscription numbers. What I mean by that is they started giving away their memberships like basically for free. Buy one, get one free. Buy a lifetime subscription for X amount of dollars. Sign up today. Don't pay anything until 2029. Uh, you get the idea.

The gist of that is it allows a company that's struggling to pretend that they're having a boost in subscriptions without having to to say, but we're not making any profit. Like, I could get 10,000 subs if I offered them all for free, right? You can say things like, we had our highest years in subscriptions, without saying because we're giving our subscriptions away, right? This is an example: buy 1 year, get 1 year free. That's for the ability to sell to people that your company is doing well when you're actually struggling. It's like an, um, everything must go sale. Right. It's— then they go, we had the highest day of revenue. Yeah, because you offered everything for a dollar. I love this stuff because as many of you know, I used to work in private equity, which— and that particular firm that I worked at in New York City specialized in distressed debt. So I got really interested in looking at how struggling companies tried to make the numbers look better. Like, we had our best year of subscriptions. And Semaphore actually produced a chart showing the decline of The Daily Wire. It's remarkable. The revenue growth has slowed They've admitted that they had no, uh, subscriber growth this past year.

Uh, their advertising— go back to the, um, advertising on the right-hand side, um, seeing how that has dropped. I love that it's all happening the year that I left. And, uh, you can see, uh, their subscriptions as well. A, a complete collapse has happened. So why is this happening? Well, because they're unnecessarily awful to everyone. I have, I've never seen a person less capable of making friends, or at least not making enemies. You don't need to be friends with everybody, but than Ben Shapiro, it's, it's a bizarre talent he has. He thinks that people disagreeing with him is a declaration of war. Okay. This is how the company is run from top to bottom. They hate you if you don't agree with them. And even their editor-in-chief, I, I can't think of the guy's name. He spends his time just throwing insults on Twitter. Aimed at 19-year-olds, calling them Hitler and anti-Semites if they discuss something like the USS Liberty. He— they do that, okay? That's not a company, that's a cult, and a cult cannot survive. So what is their next push? Well, they're pushing out these articles. We had $48 million in adjusted EBITDA.

Adjusted? Oh well, how did you adjust that EBITDA? That means we calculated the EBITDA and then we add our added some stuff back to the number to, because we don't count this money that went out the door. I mean, you could, you could adjust EBITDA until the cows go home until we can see your books. They're in a very precarious situation. That is a reality. And I, like I said, this is what happens when you just can't accept that some people disagree with you. And so what they mentioned in this article is their next thing as they're going out to companies is that they think that they can successfully IPO it. And that is a last-ditch effort to turn to people at home and go, hey, but Daily Wire is gonna go to the stock market, don't you— hey, you could own a piece of the Daily Wire. And when that happens, that situation, it's like a Trump meme coin. It's worthless. But of course, the people at the top get fat and rich relying on people that have less money to put their money into the markets. And so it's going to be you, the same people that they have basically shaped this company to now refer to as anti-Semites, as literally Hitler, as idiots.

I mean, watching Ben's show, uh, for those of you who do it, I, I, how much content can I see clips going out on X of him talking about Tucker Carlson and me? Is it really riveting to learn that Candace Owens is going to Russia with her family, um, to say that, you know, Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly are this, that? Like, what? Now he's like, you guys pick up the tab, we failed, we won't say sorry, we've been dissing you guys at home or being moral and having a position and saying Christ is King, but now we're going to trick you into getting behind us in an IPO. So what do you say, goy? What do you say? Are the goyim here and present and willing to invest in The Daily Wire? Uh, I think Paramount not so tactical might go for him. I would, uh, pretty much leave it at that. We'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, now I wanna tell you about the company ZeroGhost because your phone is the biggest surveillance device that you have. But what if you had a smartphone that put you back in control of your own information?

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Judith Brunko writes, I'm a retired ER nurse married to a retired emergency room medical doctor. And Harpole's story is so absurd. Only highly trained ER staff and surgeons enter the trauma rooms with the trauma patient. Time is of the essence to save their lives, and interference from visitors is strictly forbidden. Yeah, exactly. I mean, so many people were writing this in, it was just incredible to see. Gina Schubert writes, I'm a nurse working in a hospital for 22 years. No way that happened as Brian Harpole says.

No.

I mean, even the idea of just like scissors and jumping on someone, they'd be like, is this person finishing the person off? We don't know what's happening. Is this person here to hurt him? Like, none of it makes any sense. Uh, also I wanted to add here, someone emailed us with very, uh, good knowledge. I would just say this person was very high up the chain at a police department. He said you should be able to find what district attorney— because only a district attorney could release that, um, like the cross necklace, the back to Erica, the microphone— that would require a signed release from the district attorney. That never happens. It is considered evidence unless a district attorney signs off on it. So how did Erica get all of these artifacts back? Great question and a lead that we will explore. Also, you guys, wanted to let you know I saw all of your comments and emails. It's a rabbit hole regarding the Tewell witness, Sarah Tewell, who changed her story 3 times. Um, we will have that information for you yesterday— tomorrow. We're going to look into the witness tree. I was positively shocked I guess not really, because her changing her story was odd to begin with.

You guys noticed she was smiling, of course, the whole time, which I didn't even point to because the story was so absurd. I didn't even get to the part that she was smiling. But a lot more there than meets the eye. We're gonna get into that tomorrow. Jane also wrote from yesterday: Nurse here. OMG, this man has me hollering. He did not wheel him into a room and get on top and cut off his clothes. Are you insane? Never in any ER hospital setting would this happen, ever. Not only Are you rooming patients? Are not— you are not discussing drugs or defibrillator? Oh my, OMG, I'm hollering, this is insane. You are not a hospital employee, medical staff, sir. Yes, I also had wondered regarding the defibrillator if he was also creating a reason for why Charlie's chest might have some bruising. That was a weird thing to say. I, I, I set it up for them. It like implies that they did it or they asked him to set that up for him. And I'm wondering if that's because there might be some marks that they know is a part of the autopsy report that they're going to explain as, well, that was from Charlie got defibrillated.

Something that was just in the back of my mind. We'll see. Comments from today's episode. Marlos writes, I'm a Catholic Lebanese born in Australia. Thank you for speaking up about what is happening in Lebanon. Our media shows nothing as Australia is also controlled by Israel. Love you, Candace. Christ is King. Yes, I'm aware I got banned from Australia because the Zionist lobby of Australia band together and said that I was a danger. Weird that you're still allowed to listen to my podcast. Is it somehow not dangerous? Is it only in person? Am I going to harm someone? Funny thing is, I was doing my tour about motherhood and feminism, but I got kicked out anyways. So yes, I would agree with your assessment there. Ashley writes, hi Candace, congratulations. Also curious, uh, what Cousin Mia's opinion is about Erica when you both walked out of that meeting months ago. She just— Mia wasn't feeling it. Didn't pass the vibe check. Couple of moments, um, she just was not feeling it. I will leave it at that. Jungle Mike writes, Erica's interview on Fox News where she says, Shabbat shalom, daddy's home, could that be a reference to the pager attack that the Mossad committed?

I saw some chatter about that. I don't know anything about that. Uh, I don't think so. I, I think she just kind of accidentally rhymed there when she said that. Shabbat shalom, daddy's home, you know, we throw out his phone. And then James Lee sort of made that— I was just like, funny that it did kind of sound like she was rapping a bit. Joseph writes, lies have no chance when Candus is solving the Charlie Kirk murder using the blockchain. Saint John the Baptist, ora pro nobis. Yes, ora pro nobis, Saint John the Baptist. And they also have no chance now that I'm pregnant. Actually, we have a clip of Charlie. Um, do we have that clip? Charlie, listen to this. Hello.

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What do you have to say to the trans students on this campus who actively feel victimized by your presence here today? Life is tough. Get a helmet, man. I'm too pregnant for this. Next question.

Do not mess with a pregnant Candace. I love it. Candace not putting up with this nonsense, not playing into the feelings or the emotion. Life is tough, and stop asking the world around you to accommodate your weird fringe ideologies.

Grow up. That's how I feel about the FBI. They have the weird fringe ideologies. I'm pregnant and I'm just not dealing with the nonsense anymore. Um, I kind of love and hate watching old clips of him just being so happy and enjoying himself. It's crazy what they did to him. Um, moderator Marzie writes, Erica disassociating while lying is like Elizabeth Holmes getting caught grifting and lying with fake lab machines. She had gaze issues as well and couldn't control her eyes widening and getting dry. She stared at people who asked tough questions. I remember that she was the biotech entrepreneur who got convicted of fraud and then went to a fake prison that she's probably not even in. You should look into her family. You wanna fall down a rabbit hole of how these billionaire families come and just keep their billions while pretending that they're inventing things. Elizabeth Holmes could be a whole series. Her parent, her, her family, I forgot the, her actual family name and their dynasty that they come from, but she didn't pop up outta nowhere. That, that's old money. Uh, the next person writes, I forgot who said that there is a call from one of the police cars following Charlie's car, and they said it looked like someone was trying to jump out of the car.

Yes, uh, Brian briefly discussed in that Sean Ryan interview how they caught a police tail, so it's possible that they saw, um, Rick and maybe thought that Rick was trying to jump out of the car since the car door was open. We have not played that or found that 911 call. What I would like to discover is where— who in the car called 911. No one has taken, uh, raised their hand and said it was me. I would assume it would be Dan Flood. Uh, that would be my assumption. Where in the world is Dan Flood? He's been the most quiet. I think Dan Flood is positively guilt-ridden. He declined Erica offering him a promotion. Crazy that she offered it to him, but telling that he denied it. I think Dan Flood is guilt-ridden. I really do. I'll leave it at that. Lastly, Palladian disputes something that I say. She says, my husband has dissociative identity disorder. Believe me that Erica does not, uh, to get Catholic donations. She acts Catholic. She charms Tucker with his own views as a CEO. She adopts a serious signature. She's a con artist, not dissociative identity disorder. I just don't think you need to change your signature to be a CEO.

And I don't, like, I don't think that, I mean, she just, she doesn't remember any details. Like, it's, she seems actually angry when she says something which completely disputes something she said a few months ago. And a lot of people who wrote to me who seemingly have disorder say that it's a real amnesia because you've learned to dissociate since childhood. I, I do think when I put together the picture of her life, which I don't think anyone has spent more time doing, that there were some trauma that happened to her. I'd like to still discover who her pastor was that she took 2 years off with his wife to, to quote unquote, learn the Bible. I think that's a very important detail that we never got the answer to. She took 2 years off to study the Bible and said no one saw her except for her pastor and her pastor's wife. That is not normal. Who was it? Who was Erica's pastor? Everyone takes credit for being her pastor, but who was her pastor? Was it James Caddis? Was it— I'm assuming it's probably someone that's involved with Turning Point Faith. That would make sense.

Anyway, if you guys have any information— and by the way, we also got a ton of emails about the Epstein model thing. We have to sort of chase these leads, so we needed a day. Um, if you have any information, you guys know what you can do. Email us at moretips@candaceowens.com. We are particularly interested in the Epstein thread that we have been pulling about Erica and Next Model Management. You might be a model, a former model. You might remember Erica, um, being in charge of the Eastern European model department, uh, model apartments. Like I said, we do have some phone calls to make because we've got some very promising leads, but I want to throw that out again because I think it's a crucial piece of this. And, uh, yeah, anything else that you think that we positively need to know, we'd love to hear it. We— other than that, you can support us. You already know, merch is on the website. Easiest way to support us, grab a hat, grab a Standis cup, Grab a t-shirt, wear it at home. Let us stay independent. Uh, it— we're very proud of being independent, being able to say what we want to say.

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