Transcript of Amnesia Or Perjury? Exclusive Footage Of The OTHER Man On The Rooftop. | Ep 370

All right, you guys, happy Monday! I hope everyone had a relaxing weekend with family and friends. I had a good weekend but an almost traumatizing situation that unfolded. You know, there's like all this folklore surrounding what is termed pregnancy cravings. I actually— I don't love that term. I feel like the term in and of itself is a little bit inaccurate. Cravings suggest that they're like not a matter of life and death, and they are They're not optional. Sometimes it's very essential. I always say like in the back half of pregnancy, and I never know what it's gonna be, each pregnancy is different. But for my last two pregnancies, it has been granola. Like I just need to have a specific granola from a certain place, a certain bakery, and they almost were out of it. It was just the saddest thing. I just thought this entire week was gonna get canceled because the guy told me that there was no more granola. Unfortunately, my husband sprang into action and rescued the podcast this week. Woman came out and was like, how many would you like? And I was like, 2 boxes please, it's so good.

So I'm at that phase of pregnancy. I'm at that phase of also, of course, as you guys know, when I'm pregnant with a boy, it's not accepting a lot of the narrative that is out there. You know, there's other lore too, what's known as a, uh, pregnancy brain. And there's a lot of that going around. Forgetfulness. Blake Neff, he's got pregnancy brain. Officer Bagley, he's got pregnancy brain. I wonder if they're getting cravings as well. Turning Point USA, They've been experiencing a lot of pregnancy brain when it comes to the positions that Charlie held throughout his entire career, which they've just reversed course on. So I'm here to just help everybody out today. Welcome back to Candace. Somebody in the comments said, give granola to the prego. I hear you. Thank you so much, you guys. Thank you for understanding and allowing me a safe place to share the things that I'm going through. Anyway, we received a tip this weekend, a wonderful tip. Shout out to the sleuth who sent it, which makes the story of what actually went down during the short car ride to the hospital even stranger. I don't think this car ride could get any stranger.

We've got all of these, uh, random facts that we are learning. Phone calls, the Ben Shapiro security team, CPR that didn't happen but did happen, but the memories are different, but it's not a contradiction. And of course, we broke the story 2 weeks ago. Do not forget that in the SUV that transported Charlie to the hospital, there were black gloves that were left in the left side door, right in the back. Remember these? I'm going to show you on the left. That's actually what was stuffed in there. And on the right was our recreation. We speculated that these were either leather or used black nitrile gloves. Nitrile gloves, like the kind that you see that are sterile, synthetic, synthetic rubber. Among other things, they are used for surgery. Well, now we can positively assert that those gloves were not in the passenger door when Charlie arrived on campus. Like I said, one of our sleuths emailed us, and gratefully, uh, turns out that the amazing Mikey McCoy, who was suddenly recording Charlie's last moments in the weeks leading up as well, uh, he recorded Charlie getting out of the car at the event that day, and he was sitting in that specific seat.

So he opened his own car door, and that pocket was exposed as completely empty. I'm going to show you that. This is Charlie's arrival. Take a look at this. And unfortunately, if you are listening to this on, uh, just audio, you are going to have to pivot to video to see. Don't worry, we're gonna slow it down. You just saw that. Here it is more slowed down. Empty. And we're gonna pause so we can just look at the empty abyss of no gloves. Oh, why are there no gloves there? Get out of the vehicle, vehicle's parked, Charlie does the event, and then magically we're gonna get some sterile gloves in there. This is exceedingly problematic, you guys, 'cause it doesn't match the story that we were told by Brian Harpole. Remember, only Brian was supposed to be the person working on Charlie in, in the car, in the series of events that unfolded. Brian was the one was definitively not sitting on that side of the car, and he was already covered in blood, so much blood. He tells a story about how the nurse wiped it off of his face. So I don't think there would have been any reason for him, already covered in blood, to go, but wait, let me just grab these gloves, as the car is going 100 miles per hour.

But let's assume he did. Let's assume that was his first thought. He's like, you know what, I'm gonna put on some sterile gloves very quickly Even if he had done that, then we'd make the argument that there's absolutely no reason at all for him to have removed the gloves and then stuck them over in Rick Cutler's door as they arrived at the hospital. If you put the gloves on, you keep them on as you carry the person out of the car. Do we agree? You don't take them off. He doesn't— he's not done bleeding. So yeah, location doesn't make sense. It's in Rick Cutler's door. And we were told that Rick Cutler didn't do nothing but hold Brian Harpole with a tattoo. He got you. The Brotherhood, I saw the tattoo and I knew I was good. Two hands. Bring up that diagram again for us. Two hands making sure that he did not fall. Do we think that Rick Cutler had to put on nitrile gloves or leather gloves to hold Brian's So he wouldn't fall out of the car. Now, we also told you that Rick was among those who allegedly stripped down his clothes at the hospital.

I think that's something obviously Frank has been open about. We don't know why Frank needed to do it, but we, uh, were also told that the feds were the ones who allegedly took those clothes thereafter, down to his boxer briefs, allegedly. Seems a bit much, by the way, but okay. So I'm just gonna go ahead and page Frank Turek here, because I have just so many questions. Where are those gloves coming from? Frank, you talk a lot, right? You're a pastor. Can you do your best to remember why or when exactly someone in the car decided it would be a good idea to put gloves on and then to very quickly take them off during this brief ride before they got out of the car, stick them in the door? How about, you know what, let's make it easier. How about a simple yes or no question, Frank? Ready? Did someone in that vehicle potentially cut Charlie's t-shirt in that car? So I have to be honest with you, right? I know you said you guys were— what was that term you used that you guys were doing in the parking lot? Can we run that clip?

What were they doing? When we're pulling into the hospital parking lot and we're yanking and banking our way there, right?

Now maybe As we're yanking and banking into the, into the, uh, into the parking lot.

Yeah, you guys were yanking and banking, and I believe you, by the way. I don't know what the term means. I don't know who was yanking, who was banking, what was yanked or what was banked. But I gotta tell you, Frank, Frank the yanking and banking Frank, the public isn't really buying some elements of the story particularly the portion where Brian Harpole grabs a gurney, jumps on top of Charlie in the ER, and begins cutting his shirt while the staff looks on for further instructions about what drugs to give Charlie, what drugs to administer. That just sounds like fiction. And I gotta be honest, Frank, it would really go a long way if you could just at least confirm Brian Harpole's memories. Is he telling the truth there, that part? Whipped out scissors, prepped him for a defibrillator. And also, what were you doing in particular when he jumped on the gurney and began cutting his shirt? Because I gotta be honest with you, I don't feel like you and Rick Cutler would let Brian Harpole run the show. I don't feel like anybody who's with Brian Harpole goes, that's the guy in charge, like he's got it under control.

I mean, Brian Harpole is definitively not the brightest among you. Not the most trained among you. Even when he describes things in that Sean Ryan interview, he's like, we're doing the medical. We was like, I was doing the medical. Lack of intelligence is what comes across in that interview. Don't buy that you guys just went, okay, Ryan's got it all under control in the, in the ER room. I just, I, I don't believe that. So could you just confirm to say, yes, I remember that he jumped on the gurney with the scissors? It would go a long way. Anyway, moving on from that, cuz we're here to just put pieces together, right? There's something else that we have been able to get our hands on. Actually, I had it for a very long time and it's gonna help solve another bout of amnesia. I'm so happy to be a pregnant person helping people who are not pregnant with their pregnancy brain. That feels good. Good old Officer Bagley, you're up. Man that finds the screwdriver on the rooftop. The screwdriver, we still don't know, um, if that screwdriver even— if a screwdriver even works for that particular gun.

That part's a bit strange. We do know it has Lance Twigg's DNA alongside Tyler Robinson's DNA. Unfortunately, we can't even look at the moment that this screwdriver is found on the rooftop because unfortunately Officer Bagley's body cam went off at the exact wrong time. And we know he was with somebody, accompanied by somebody in plain clothes onto that rooftop when he found that screwdriver. And we would love to be able to ask that guy questions, but well, Officer Bagley didn't get his name or something. And I guess being an officer at UVU, you couldn't just be like, hey, could we get that footage so I can see who I was on the rooftop with for this really important moment where we find Tyler Robinson's DNA? They don't get access or something. I don't know. Anyway, let's listen to some of his less than compelling moments from his testimony at the preliminary hearing. Take a listen.

It appears to me from reviewing your body camera that there was another individual who was with you that went to the Losi Building who was in civilian clothing but appeared to have a gun. Who was that?

I, I don't know who he was exactly. He had a badge on. And I need somebody with me to back me up as I ran up the stairs to make sure I had somebody with me.

So you don't know what agency he's from or where he's from?

No.

And he looked like he had a pistol. Yes. Is that right? I had gun. Yes. Yeah.

And like I said, 10 months later, he had no desire to just go over to the campus that he works on and say, hey, could you run the tape back? I'd like to see who I was on the rooftop with when I found this incredible piece of evidence. And he explains further about the body cam losing that footage. Take a listen.

All right, your body cam footage that I reviewed appears to end while you're still on the roof. Do you know why that is?

I think the battery went dead. It was just right at that moment.

Okay. And do you know, did you ever turn it back on that day or go get it? I don't know, what do you have to do, charge it or stick a new battery in it? I don't even know.

Usually dock it, but no, I didn't go back.

I was too—

it was too chaotic. Running around.

So that 27-minute and 35-second body cam that starts when you're at the Hall of Flags and ends while you're still on the roof but haven't put the crime tape up yet, that's the only body cam you have that day?

Yes.

All right.

You know, people are speculating that Officer Bagley might not be telling the whole truth. You know, they say You're gonna tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. He might be telling the truth his body cam footage was off. How it got off, maybe not the whole truth. And the nothing but the truth, people are going, I don't know, I don't know. See, there's some weird things. We're going to address this timeline here. Take a look at this, right? Um, I want to point your attention to 12:39 PM. The first FBI agents arrive at UVU with the chiefs of police. That's what we are told. We were told just took 16 minutes according to Kash Patel and Dan Bongino in various air interviews before they got there and secured the scene. So that's before 12:44, which is when Officer Bagley testifies that he arrives on the rooftop, right? Uh, he gets onto Losey Building at 12:44. He discovers that screwdriver 10 to 15 feet past the railing in the gravel. Now, I— let's listen to Kash Patel say that so there's no confusion that that's what we were told by the FBI.

Charlie was shot at 12:23 PM on Wednesday. The first FBI agents arrived on scene in 16 minutes with chiefs of police at 12:39 and secured the scene. Again, what I want to stress here is that it took 16 minutes for them to arrive on scene. That is remarkably fast given the FBI office is actually located in Salt Lake City. It's a 50-minute drive. It's actually incredible that they got there that quickly. If I didn't know any better, I'd say they had foreknowledge They have a little office in a building in Provo nearby that has apparently 4 agents. So I'm, I'm stressing that because I want to underscore— and you can come out of that, guys— um, I want to underscore that Officer Bagley went on to Lohsee rooftop after the feds had arrived and had secured and began securing the scene. And we can assume that the FBI is not going to allow just anybody to traverse onto Lohsee rooftop, right? Onto any rooftop for that matter, because they're looking for a potential sniper, right? Randos in plain clothes jumping onto rooftops without the right credentials in the middle of a manhunt for a sniper— yeah, that's a pretty good way to wind up dead, really, if you were just playing around.

So this Officer Bagley story isn't exactly tracking, and like I said, he should have had access to the cameras to figure out who he was up there with. And it's just astonishing that he claims it's a plainclothes officer who just had a badge and he doesn't remember. So I'm thinking in my head, looking, examining the facts, that whoever he was with had to have had some rank. Feds on the scene, they would send themselves up there. They're not going to just let some scrub officer, uh, take over. Now, lucky for Officer Bagley, I went combing through all the footage that was sent to me on September 10th, and lo and behold, Officer Bagley gets up there at 12:45, 12:44. I was able to find some footage of who Officer Bagley was with. It was captured by a bystander at 12:47 PM. Thank you, Candace. Oh my gosh, you're welcome, Officer Bagley. I'm sure that's what you wanted. You just probably wanted to positively ID who was on the Lozi Rooftop Center with you. And despite all of the resources of the feds and UVU police and all the cameras You couldn't do it before that preliminary hearing when you sit down with your lawyer and try to make sure that you have every possible detail remembered.

But here I am to save the day. Here is the footage. Let's watch that. 12:47 PM, random person walking, and they catch Lozi rooftop. Who could that be? Who is that, dear?

Who?

Oh, man in plain clothes. Let's bring that closer, actually. Let's, uh, oh, Officer Bagley, I think that might be you because here you are lower. We have a close-up of him down there wearing the hat and looks a little baldy on the side. Could be you, definitely. But we definitely can ID the other guy. Let's show them on that rooftop again. Oh, Bag with the red hat. Cozy rooftop. So who is that guy in plain clothes on Losey with a bag and a backpack? Well, first and foremost, credit to Muppet Masher on X who was able to identify the person. It is Officer Alan Robinson from the Utah State University Department of Public Safety. Utah State University. So not even a UVU officer. Now, this guy in theory is just supposed to be a part of general reinforcements on that day, a nobody. A nobody. But I'm excited that we at least get to add this presumably a nobody to our list of ever-growing list of people who are brand new, uh, because he had just joined the USU police force the summer before. Here was the announcement on Facebook. They announced it on Facebook that he had joined.

And another weird thing that we noted while going back and reviewing that footage, but Alan Robertson, as we're going through all that early footage, he actually seems like he's the person that's immediately in charge. We're gonna unpack that further this week.

Very weird.

We're told he's just some rookie officer from Utah State University who was helping out at the event, maybe some crowd control. It's not even his campus. Why would anyone listen to this dude? It's a good question, right? Why would anyone— I'd be like, this isn't your campus. More importantly, why is Officer Bagley seemingly running cover for this rookie. Seemingly. Allegedly. Kind of makes me think that this guy is maybe more important than Officer Bagley is letting on. Gratefully, YouTuber Nisi, who does fantastic work, by the way, was able to put through a list of several things, question marks about Officer Bagley's testimony, that don't appear at second glance to be, well, nothing but the truth. Take a listen.

So they described a man with a badge and a pistol who went with him to the roof. The individual that fits that description is this red hat guy with the khaki shorts. He has a bag with a badge on it, and he was walking around with a handgun. The ex-account Muppet Masher identified the red hat guy as Alan Robertson, and his friend in the blue shirt as Christopher Haycock. In the Life Is Driving footage, you see him walking around and texting and making calls, and this really stood out to me because you don't see any other law enforcement officers doing this. Ultimately, Officer Bagley's version of events just doesn't line up with the available footage. So the question is, why lie? Allegedly, he fails to mention that the man in the red hat was the one that alerted him to the holster. He fails to mention that he had a conversation with the man in the red hat before going to the Losi Center roof. And it is interesting that they get there and conveniently his body camera just stops running. He says the battery died, but the camera had only been running for 27 minutes, and these body cameras are supposed to last around 10 hours.

Seems a little suspicious. You were already taking orders from him about the holster. You just didn't mention that throughout your testimony at all. Why, why are we seemingly providing coverage for a rookie? From Terrell Farnsworth to Officer Bagley, there seems to be an immediate understanding that this Allen Robertson character, who shall not be named, is calling the shots. It's as though he's, like, in command of the post-assassination operation. And you know what's funny about that? We decided to look into him, and that is actually what he did, but in the military. You see, Allen Robertson is actually a United States Marine. Ah, that makes sense. And according to his LinkedIn, he was the marksmanship instructor for the Marines from 2009 to 2014 at Camp Pendleton, which is in California. It's a Marine base. He's been deployed in combat in Afghanistan. He was also deployed in humanitarian work in Japan for the Marines before he arrived into Utah. You know how I'm feeling right now about the Marines getting involved in humanitarian work overseas. But he was also a police officer just before going to Utah in San Bernardino, California. But something happened. It was very short before he gets moved out to Utah.

Something happened. We don't know what happened, but we believe something did because there was an entry made for him on the Brady List website. So if you've never heard of the Brady List website, it's a, uh, a database of law enforcement officers who have a documented history of misconduct, dishonesty, or integrity violations. And the records are kept actually by prosecutors so that they can then share them with defense attorneys during a criminal trial. The reason is, is because they— the Brady List explicitly deals with an officer's credibility as a witness. It indicates that there's internal investigators or like prosecutors are flagging an incident which involves dishonesty, perhaps falsifying a police report, a policy violation that was severe enough, uh, that they— the defense now has a constitutional right to know. That this officer was involved in something, uh, that's not good. That puts his credibility in the spotlight. And so he has a, a, an entry, so to speak, on Brady List's website. And we looked, and I, I thought, well, maybe he has a— maybe there's an entry for every officer in the land. And, uh, I read their about section, I searched online, it said nope, that's not what they do.

But in particular, uh, Most of the people who are on this website, they have a link to what their, if you want to call them offenses, are, or what they were involved in that earned them to be mentioned on the Brady List website. But Alan Robertson and every police officer that is at San Bernardino has a blank under here, and it tells us that the absence of disclosed material is affected by institutional limitations. And then it says San Bernardino Police Department is not in compliance. With its Brady disclosure obligations. So every officer that is working at San Bernardino that has an entry on this website, there are no details that are provided. And when you click, what does it mean to not be in compliance? I mean, it sounds like they can just give you the runaround if they want and say, we are in compliance with the Brady stuff, but maybe it's an ongoing investigation. Um, you can click through and look at this yourself. Alan E. Robertson, My assumption is he has an entry and they're not able to get details on it. Obviously, you guys also know there's a lot of corruption in the San Bernardino, California Police Department, and so we are looking for information to be able to verify whether or not there was an incident involving Alan E.

Robertson in, uh, California which earned him an entry on the Brady List website. Again, we are not too familiar with this website, but we have done our basic due diligence here, and we can definitively state that there is no officer in San Bernardino that has, um, any like documented files attached. So that seems like they are correct that they are not complying or being totally open with ongoing investigations. Is there a reason he was moved from San Bernardino to Utah? We are obviously going to turn to Californians and to ask you if you know anything. Also people that were in the Marines, maybe you served alongside this, uh, Allen Edward Robertson. Uh, it could be a reason people are reluctant to name him. If he had been involved in falsifying testimony— I'm not saying he was, but I'm saying that is the purpose of Brady List— if he had been involved in doing something that would render him, uh, I guess constitutionally, like, a constitutional right wanting to tell people, hey, this guy is no good, he's a dirty cop of some description, you could see why they are acting like they don't know he was there.

Is he the kind of person who would, I don't know, maybe drop a screwdriver or lie about whether or not a screwdriver was there? I don't know. I want to know. Please send us tips to moretips@candaceowens.com if you've worked with him in San Bernardino, if you know something about or involved in a case that he was involved in, if you know why he transferred. Maybe we'll actually be able to fully clear his name and say actually he just left because he likes Utah in the summer and he decided to go in August 2024 despite the fact that his entire life has been in California. Uh, it feels a bit precise to me, and we do know that there is this habit of when officers get in trouble, they transfer them out into other departments. So it is definitely what I would assert is a plausibility, uh, that Alan E. Robertson was involved in something in San Bernardino. We'd like to know more. Email us moretips@candace. Uh, sorry, candaceowens.com. There's a little pregnancy brain for you. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. All right, you guys, NIMI makes the best tallow skincare products that I've ever used.

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So the question is, Why? Why, why, why? These military guys, man, I'm feeling all sorts of different ways about the military. I know people that served in the military are feeling differently. That's why they're having issues getting people to sign up, no matter how many times Pete Hegseth jogs with them and just like, okay, now it's time to die for Israel. People are like, mm, I don't know if I want to do that, actually. Anyway, I gave you guys the story a while ago. I was not in a good place after, uh, the Russia trip. And I told you about the traumatizing story of what happened, uh, to someone on my security detail who had served 12 years, 12 years, could not get an appointment, was trying to get an appointment for over 5 years for the VA. And I'm now going to say fortunately went to Russia with us because we now have an understanding, uh, that it had to have happened in Russia. And, uh, he had a, a very severe stroke, had to have brain surgery to remove the clot in the back of his, um, head was where his motor skills were.

And he thought— we thought he was going to die. Uh, I can now say that without tears in my eyes because I saw him yesterday for the first time, and the kids were just so thrilled to see him. He's back from Russia, and I wanted to give you guys that update because we got so many emails. Um, he actually said, I wish I never left Russia, because he's having trouble getting an appointment again. But, um, he, he told me that the First and foremost, the Ministry of Health of Russia, when he went, when they said, what's the bill, which we were all assuming we were gonna have to throw in for, it's been taken care of by the Ministry of Health. Um, he said he was sad to leave because these people became like family to him, that he had the other military families came to come see him. Russia, I'm talking Russian military, like special forces guys from Russia. Um, and when he was, you know, learning to stand, they were rooting for him and cheering for him. And it was just, he specifically said, and I wanted to say this, he had never been treated with so much dignity in his life.

That was— he just kept saying that they treated me with so much dignity. And when he left, the babushkas at the hospital cried, and they cried. And his wife, while she was there, because obviously she had nothing to do all day, started learning a little bit of Russian, uh, so she was able to communicate back and forth. And so where he's at right now is he is, first and foremost, one that you guys know, in tremendous spirits. I told you his eyesight came back. It was like a miracle. Once the clot was removed, he was wearing glasses. Now he can see again perfectly. His, he just looks healthier. His face looks healthier, but obviously he's still got to get his brain to speak to his body. And so my kids were like, what's wrong with your, what's wrong with your arm? What's going on with your legs? Why are you walking like that? And he was just, it was just so great for the kids to just be able to ask those questions. And he was just so great about explaining. He was like, you know, I've got these nerves and I've gotta, teach them again how to— they have to be able to connect.

And that's why it's not easy for me to move my arm. And my son was just so interested in like why he couldn't move his arm. And he just was just so gracious in just explaining everything. Kids just, you know, just, they're so adaptable. They were just so happy to see him cuz he was such a part of our lives. And so I just felt like, oh, I could breathe again. And then I was just saying to his wife, you have no idea. How much we had to think about in those crucial minutes. And I told him, I, we just, we thought you were gonna die. Like now I can say that we, we thought you were gonna die. And anyways, so his next step of his journey is trying to, you know, he's gotta do the physical therapy and he's gotta get the brain going. And right now we are trying to, there was a foundation that was going to support him going to this institute. It is Dr. Phil DeFina in particular that he's trying to get into this International Institute of Brain Enhancement that is in Delray, Florida. I wanna use my platform because somebody may be able to help.

There may be a charity that can step in and help. It's, you know, it's expensive out of pocket as everything is in America. And they are, obviously his VA benefits are not going to cover this. And he, I think he said it, it's like one month and every single day he can work at it and, you know, learn to walk again in, in like the, so he doesn't need support and learn how to use his left hand. And I just wanted to, Just go out because there's always somebody who watches the show who can, um, help us get him into this brain enhancement center. Again, this is the International Institute of Brain Enhancement. And if you could email, not tips, but info@candiceowens.com. Um, yeah, this is his next step is just, uh, waking his body back on, getting the nerves back online. And like, it is a miracle. He is in, I can't say enough, he's in fantastic spirits. He's just like every day working at it as you would expect. A Navy SEAL to do. Like, okay, I can do the physical stuff. And, um, even where he's at right now, the progress of that is already a miracle.

So I did want to update you guys because I— we got so many military families who had experienced this and it did not end up as a happy story. And I also just want to say thank you, Russia, again, to the Russian Ministry of Health. I did not know until yesterday that you guys paid for the entire bill, so thank you guys. Okay, moving on. And but also in the exact same vein, talking about, you know, just this sort of Military people don't want to sign up anymore. Good, you shouldn't. You'd be better off learning how to hunt and shoot and serving your communities. Obviously Trump does not care about you, your life. And if you give them 12 years, good luck getting an appointment at the VA. I think that's how we all feel. Uh, we signaled strongly you did not want to go to the Iran War. If only Trump had listened, uh, to Charlie Kirk. Um, and, and instead looking the other way when there are a lot of shitty things that happen with his assassination. But CNN came out today with just an— it's an incredible headline— that the U.S. military is now asking troops for creative and unconventional ideas to punish Iran.

The request came from a senior officer at the U.S. military command carrying out President Donald Trump's war with Iran. Came in an email that they are looking for new creative and unconventional ways to pressure and punish Iran. They got their hands on this email. An officer in the U.S. Central Command's intelligence branch— if we're still calling it intelligence— wrote in a message that was sent on Wednesday to a broad group of military analysts, according to a source that was familiar with the message. A second source also said that a senior U.S. military officer sent the message last week soliciting new ideas for how to deal with Iran. They're crowdsourcing ideas because we're losing. And we're losing because Trump is stupid, because Trump is listening to his advisors, has no common sense, clearly has no concept himself of just common sense foreign policy. Listened to a pitch by Bibi Netanyahu saying we can take Persia in a week. Yeah, you know that empire that's just been around, just been around a very long time? I can do it in a week. All you have to do is side with me and the pedophile class. And Trump said, that sounds like a good idea, I'll protect the Epstein class.

And then, well, and then I'll help you get into Spain too. Like everyone knows that's just like Israel doing that. And Trump is now going, wow, we really can't do that. We can't take Iran. We've beat Iran about 55 times, um, according to Trump's tweets. Uh, and yet we haven't beat Iran. And now they're messaging and asking for creative ideas. So I would like to put something in the suggestion box. Um, admit you were wrong, apologize, uh, remove our ties from Israel, stop funding that demonic pedophilic state of Baal, close the chapter on that, and try actually being the President of the United States for like a day. We get a day as opposed to the President of Israel. Can we get like a day? Um, honestly, my honest opinion, with the way that you have betrayed Charlie, I, I couldn't care less what happens to Trump. I, I think he's an absolute moron. I hate everything about him. I, I know hate is a very strong word, but Charlie spent his entire life trying to elect the very people into power who are allowing this farce to go on. Uh, and we know that Charlie was the first casualty of the Iranian War.

He was in the way. He was in the way. And now we have his organization telling us they don't know. Uh, actually, Blake, I think, said Charlie would support Trump. The Iran War. He would support them. Okay, Erica said, we don't— he's not here to tell us what he would think. All we have are old clips. And you know what, she was right about that. We do have old clips. I saw some of this going around on Instagram. Take a listen.

Yeah, I know, to answer your question, my husband isn't here to say whether or not we should be at war with Iran.

I would love for him to be here right now and tell us if we should or should not.

I would love it.

I miss his voice more than anyone in this world.

I do.

And, you know, it's frustrating when you have people speaking for him.

I can have a sentiment for that. But thank the good Lord that we have a bunch of his videos that we can look back on.

But I can say concretely, here's where I stand. We do not want US boots on the ground. We do not want American kinetic involvement. Make sure we don't go to war against Iran, which would be a profound mistake for our country. So that, that's a really, really important thing. It's pathologically insane. I'm sorry, it is. I don't think we should bomb Iranian nuclear facilities. I just don't. My whole life I've been told that Iran is getting a bomb. Iran is getting a bomb. Iran is getting a bomb. Iran is getting a nuclear bomb. Yet here in 2025, they do not have a nuclear bomb. So why should we trust the American intelligence without verifying it? This is Israel's war. The worst possible case scenario is Iran says, okay, you humiliated us, you killed all of our leaders. We're going to go make this a regional mess and try to get as many people involved as possible. And I think it's long past time that our leaders would start to prioritize the well-being of our own citizens, not those of foreign nations. This is more of Israel pushing for Iran, but is that America's problem? That's a— I mean, maybe the answer is yes.

Maybe the answer is, you know what, they were wrong about Iraq, they were wrong about Syria, they were wrong about Afghanistan, they were wrong about the Taliban, they were wrong about Libya, they were wrong about the Arab Spring, they were wrong about Yemen, they were wrong about the Arabian Peninsula, they were wrong about the 9/11 hijackers being Saudi Arabian. But hey, 10th time's a charm. This time we're actually right.

Yeah, I think he was pretty clear on what he thought about war with Iran. Pathologically insane is exactly what it is. Pathologically insane to accept this narrative of Charlie's assassination uh, being done at the hands of a trans furry who it turns out is not trans, and, um, they can't even prove was on campus that day. Pathologically insane to think that Turning Point USA is acting in good faith. Pathologically insane to believe a single word that comes out of Erica Kirk's mouth. She has not fought at all for her husband. My Charlie, my Charlie, except when it comes to providing basic details that she would have access to. Pathologically insane to believe that if she was telling the truth, she would need to invite influencers to court. Pathologically insane to still be supporting this administration, following or listening to any person who is a Zionist and is still standing behind these Baal worshipers who keep sacrificing innocent children and innocent lives so they expand their empire. Lastly, pathologically insane to still be a white person in Europe, not realizing they've been eradicating your race and doing it through means of deception, as is the Mossad.

Motto, blaming the Arabs as they finance campaigns for them to run over borders in territories that Israel is bombing for Israel's expansion. They are expanding their empire. They do not view themselves to be your race. They do not like you. They do not like your faith. And you keep thinking it's the Muslims. All of it is pathologically insane in my view. But what do I know? We'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, are you doing all the right things for your health but still wondering if there's more that you could be doing to support healthy aging? Well, that's why I'm very excited to tell you guys about Fatty15, a science-backed supplement that's built around C15, which is the first essential fatty acid that's been discovered in more than 90 years. Researchers have found that low levels of C15 may impact how well our cells age and function over time. That's important because healthy cells are the foundation for long-term wellness, including energy, sleep, metabolism, and even cognitive health. Studies have shown that C15 is a foundational nutrient that supports healthy growth and development in children and supports our long-term health as adults.

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They're all—

like I said, they lost their glow. I've never seen happier people than at Charlie's memorial. And now they're angry and they're lashing out. And like I said, that is a life sentence when the entire world knows what you are and what you are doing and that you are deceitful. I mean, look at Andrew Colvin. He went from like trying to be the, like, Beavis and Butt-Head show, trying to be polished and open. Now they're just like lashing out and crazy and turning into like— they're all acting like Laura Loomer. And they're working with these people as well. And it's, it's— you have to understand, it's so much bigger what Charlie has exposed to the world. Think about the fact that in Iran they're making Lego videos talking about the Epstein class, talking about, uh, Charlie's assassination. The world is united in understanding what happened here. The world. So we're not even looking at people when they're trying to give us the slop and they want more war. And look, this is what's happening in Spain and Morocco, and here's why you should care, and Russia is awful and Ukraine is great. It's not landing the same.

The trick was always in the illusion. The illusion has now collapsed, and the people have never been more united. So, uh, be positive. Like, I have a very positive perspective about everything, and I— there's going to be consequences. Keep telling you guys that. Jessica Tamburo writes, I cannot comprehend the amount of evil that took place that day. Like I said, I have— I just have so much that has to wait for the right time for us to share. And I also wanna allow your brain to process the micro before we even get to the macro. I, uh, will assert over and over again, Charlie was betrayed and we are completely being lied to. And people in his inner core and circle are a part and parcel of those lies. They are the creator of those lies, perpetuators of some of those lies, and they will be exposed. They will be exposed and they know, come on, that's why they're, They're lashing out. They absolutely know it. We are just staying on top of them. Comments from today's episode. True Detective writes, "Maybe in the near future, an inmate at the Utah State Correctional Facility will yell out, 'I've lost my Squishmallow!' And the guards will then start looking for Andrew Colvett's Squishmallow." The incident of Louise and her Squishmallow.

It's just before bed every night. Just, I don't know where that thing goes. Zamit writes, "More tips at CandaceOwens.com. You all are watching the livestreaming of the unstoppable truth revolution." Yes, we are. All united in this and send us— we're piecing it all together, it's all coming, um, and the picture is revealing itself. Ali writes, let's assume for a moment that Tyler did it. I don't want to hear anyone say that we've been unfair to Erica or TPUSA. We don't care if they think Tyler did it. It's their lies, betrayals of Charlie Kirk's legacy to Zionists, and just shameless behavior that is the issue. Yeah, I've seen people ask that, like, what if we know, we find out Tyler did it? That was in the beginning actually of this investigation, and I had to contend with that. I was like, well The way they're acting, the confidence that Erika has, surely when we get to the preliminary hearing, they're just going to show us an actual 4K HD video of him taking the shot. Nope, we got nothing. Nada. We did not have to recant on even one statement that we had made previously. And, um, that's not good.

You shouldn't need influencers at court. You just shouldn't be calling people up and asking them to come to court. And so yeah, I would agree that no matter what, they have betrayed Charlie, but I think that they're lying about what happened on that day. That's the other thing. I think we've proven that they've told lies about, uh, what happened on that day. Or I guess rather they're having faulty memories. They haven't told the whole truth. Maybe the truth, but not the whole truth about what happened on that day. And they haven't been forthcoming. And there's no reason— there's absolutely no reason that their instinct when things are uncovered is to dispute it, to try to explain it away. I mean, this recent video that I revealed, that's the 4K video. Now they're moving the goalpost and they're like, well, we meant there was 4K video of him else? Where? You, you said literally the words that came out of your mouths was those 4K footage of him taking the shot. Now you're suddenly like, think you're gonna Men in Black us and just we forgot what you said. And it's like, no, we just meant that like other parts— there was 4K footage of the like the bush outside.

Oh, there was 4K footage of like Lozi Center. Like, no, you said Tyler killed him. You are condemning this man and claiming that you have the footage to be able to do that, and you won't show that to the public. That's silly. Why not get the public on your side immediately? Release it. Makes no sense. Um, Dagny, am I saying it right? Dagenjean. Okay, a few dollars for the swear jar. I did not swear. You're forgiven because we love you. I did not swear. Run the tape back. Some— oh, producer wrote a note. I did not hear any swear words. I knew I didn't swear. Maybe you said a lot of shady stuff and he thought he heard you say a lot of S-word stuff. Thank you, thank you, producer that put that note. Team Candace, no swear jar for me, but I'll, um, thank you for the donation. Sunshine writes, have you seen what they have done in Lebanon? Um, that's a donation, thank you, from Sweden. Wow. Uh, yeah, everywhere. It's just everywhere. They can't stop killing people, and it's just so crazy that these Zionist Christian influencers are like, God will bless you if you bless murderers and rapists, you'll be blessed.

The grift is over. I don't want to hear from Christian Zionists. We're so bored. We see you for what you are, okay? You guys support people who sacrifice children to Baal. These are demons. And there's no enough of, of grift church— I'm going to call it— I'm in scripture, it's grifter. And they just find something and try to tell you, well, look the other way, it's not happening. It's happening everywhere. They take Spain, they're coming for other territories in Europe, mark my words. And Trump is going to allow it because, well, there's somebody in those files and there's some videos that exist that have allowed him to be completely run over by the Epstein files. That was when the change happened. The internet is not real writes, happy Monday, Blakey Poo. Yes, happy Monday, Blakey. I didn't even address you today. How you doing, Blakey? Blakey, by the way, we did find out what hotel TPUSA staff stayed into, Andrew Colvin and everybody else. Um, so, you know, we can, we can tell you that tomorrow. But, um, I don't know where you are, Blakey. I don't know if you stayed with them. That's what we're trying to get to the bottom of.

Did you stay in the same hotel as Andrew Colvin and Co.? Patricia writes, you are a true warrior for Charlie, and he would be so proud of you. We love you. Keep going, Max. We don't believe the Fed slop. Nobody believes the Fed slop. Thank you, Patricia. Because they're asking us to be stupid and we would rather not do that, if that's cool. Jen Common writes, thank you to the only true friend that CK ever had. Everyone should be so lucky to have a Candace in their lives. Keep going, Max. Christ is King. Indeed, indeed. Um, yeah, I mean, that's comments for today. Uh, obviously if you guys like to support our show, you can head to the website, get some merch. It's the easiest way to keep us independent. Um, and buy a Standis cup. You know you like that light blue version. It's so pretty. Every time I see it, I'm just surprised by how beautiful— it gets more beautiful every time I see it. It's like my daughter. I ask her every morning, I'm like, Louise, how did you get more beautiful the night before? And she says, because Jesus loves me and I sleep a lot.

So it's pretty simple. And so I sleep, I sleep enough, I think, but she's a lot prettier than me. My daughter is very, very pretty. And that's why, if you want to look pretty like Louise, sleep a lot and make sure Jesus loves you. You want to support our show, Head to canistones.com, buy some merch and a t-shirt, and the glow up will happen automatically. I feel like I should put like one of those, you know, pharmaceutical commercials where like we then have to say, oh, this could happen, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because it's like they're actually— everything they told you in the commercial wasn't true. Okay, if you buy a t-shirt, you may not be more beautiful, but you'll be supporting me, and that means a lot. Love you guys so much. Love you. See you tomorrow.