Transcript of TPUSA Wants Us To Stop Asking Questions About 9/10?! | Candace Ep 248

Happy Monday, everybody. Today, we are going to discuss, or rather, I'm going to introduce to you a psychological strategy that I refer to as David Hoggen, somebody. You guys remember David Hogg, the parkland shooting tragedy? Of course you do. Well, it seems like Turning Point USA is now engaging in this strategy of David hogging the public. I wanted to be clear that it's downright manipulative, and I've really had enough of it. Frankly, what happened over the weekend is that their TP Action COO, Tyler Boyer, went on a little bit of an ex-bing. I don't recommend it, which was then highlighted by Alex Clark, who has a show over there on Instagram. I think it's therefore fair for us to turn our attention back to them. So welcome back, Candice. Let me put it to you this way. I'll give you a different scenario. If at this very moment McDonald's publicly announced that their CEO was stepping down and they were going to replace him with somebody else, Nobody would care. There's not going to be any public outcry about them doing that. The average person doesn't even know who the current CEO of McDonald's actually is.

But, however, giving you a different scenario, if out of nowhere, McDonald's McDonald's announced that they were getting rid of the Big Mac, that they were changing their French fries, and they're doing away with their chicken nuggets, there would probably be a reaction to that. People would be pretty angry. It would probably start trending. It's because the reality is nobody actually cares about the corporate structure. But if you change the menu items, that actually changes the substance of the company for people. A very recent example of that, by the way, is the cracker barrel scandal, which was hilarious, but it was a good point for everybody a way to learn. Corporate over at cracker barrel, effed around, and they found out pretty quickly that that old man on the logo, that inanimate old man that was with the cracker and the barrel, actually had more meaning to the public than their entire corporate division. They were ready to just walk away from it all because they got rid of the old man and his barrel. Now, I raise this only to say that I have seen multiple political organizations within recent years, especially when money starts pouring in.

There's this arrogance that sets in, and they start to dilute themselves into believing that they're smarter than their customers, that they're smarter than their audience, so to speak. It's like the magic is actually the corporate structure. Audiences, I want to be very clear, will catch a vibe pretty quickly. Audiences are smart, they're perceptive, they will sense when something is off. The harder that you try to convince them that their senses are not real and that they are imagined, the more obvious it actually becomes to them that their suspicions are correct, something's not right. Now, to just keep up with the same analogy, Charlie Kirk was essentially the old man on the cracker barrel logo. People were invested in Charlie Kirk. We have, at this moment, no definitive understanding of what happened on the day that he was assassinated. But what we do know definitively is that the feds are lying to us. That is obvious. It is abundant. If you're able to think thoughts, you recognize that something is very wrong with the story that has been presented to the public. I think that what the public doesn't understand and I count myself among the public, is why it seems as though Turning Point USA executives, and I'll say seems, are not even remotely interested in challenging that official narrative.

They're not interested in challenging it publicly, at least. In fact, I think it was an ex-user that pointed out, he put it rather bluntly when he said, So they want us to forgive Tyler Robinson, but to attack the people that are trying to solve the murder of Charlie Kirk? That's not right. It doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel good. Threats of lawsuits, we're collecting evidence. What are we even talking about? I want to say that what's been bothering me in particular are the microlies. It seems that they're suddenly in business of telling microlies. Tiny little misrepresentations, tiny little half-truths that right out of the gate seems altogether unnecessary. It really makes me wonder, who are they protecting exactly? You'll see oftentimes, they and other influencers will invoke Erica as the reason that it's not appropriate to ask questions. It's just not appropriate while Erica is still mourning for you guys to ask any questions. I'm just going to come back at you with some common sense. What A widow wouldn't want people to investigate the assassination of their husband? She has not explicitly said that, but the influencers are invoking that. They're invoking like, it's not appropriate right now for people to be asking questions.

That's what I mean when I say they are David hogging us. You could also use another example, somebody that was on the right, Kyle Kashuv. What essentially means is that when a tragedy takes place and we are all we are emotional, our emotions are raw, me especially, I think this was the first time where I couldn't really check my emotions. I'm just now moving out of the grief stage. There will be people that then will try to manipulate you. They will try to manipulate you by using that strategy of saying, Well, it would be really wrong. It would be really wrong for you to look beneath this layer or to ask a question about this. It would be an injustice to Charlie Kirk's legacy, really. If you really loved him, then you shouldn't do this, because the tragedy just happened. They did this, David Hogg. You're not allowed to question David Hogg. He suddenly became an authority. No matter what he said, we were told by the journalist that it just made perfect sense, and he should go to Harvard. Obviously, to the extent that anybody suffers and survives a school shooting, I'm with you, and I think that that's totally fair.

But then when you go beyond that, it starts to feel a little bit like you're emotionally manipulating us and that you're actually trying to silence people who have valid questions or criticisms or concerns. That strategy, like I said, it worked on me in the beginning. I was definitely completely worked by it, and I was feeling like even though I knew that they were telling white lives, that I should just allow it and to instead focus my entire attention on just unpacking the federal lies. But you know what? Over the weekend, I realized, actually, no. Lying, full stop, is weird. It's weird after a tragedy. It is weird after someone that you purport to be your best friend, you're so close. Why are you telling micro lies about that person? Actually, by exposing those lies, perhaps it will reveal a bigger picture because what would motivate it? What would actually motivate it? Now, I'll give you just one example here, and we're going to get into some stuff that's rather bombastic, if I'm being frank. But one example that I bit my tongue on a couple weeks ago was when influencers randomly went on a full attack, full attack mode against me when I very casually, you guys watching this series, very casually mentioned that athletes were hoping that Charlie was going to take the next step and convert.

Of course, I'm Catholic. Of course, what would be wrong with me sharing that? Everybody was sharing their stories about Charlie and the conversations they were having. But for some reason, Candice saying, and I'll sum it up, effectively, it was like two sentences, Charlie was going through some spiritual changes towards the end. Catholics were hoping that he'd take the next step because he was praying the rosary. I never said he converted because he didn't. That would have been dishonest. But people were somehow really angry. Somebody clearly hit the panic button. Suddenly, a bunch of videos were being made disputing the narrative. People were going, I knew Charlie, and he was truly evangelical to his core, blah, blah, blah, blah, untrue. It wasn't true. I'm going to share with you some more truth so that you can contextualize it. Charlie was attending Mass weekly. He was sometimes even attending Mass daily. He was not attending Pastor Rob McCoy's church. As I mentioned before, yes, he was praying the rosary. Charlie, in fact, was wearing the Saint Michael pendant when he died. As has already been publicized, Erica took a Catholic bishop with her to pray over his body on the day he died.

These are all indisputable facts. It is also a fact, which was presented by Megan Kelly, that a few weeks before his death, Erica had a priest come over to pray over them when some witches thought it would be funny, whatever, to put a hex on him. That's a lot of things that were happening behind the scenes. The people at Turning Point USA knew those things to be true. They knew everything that I just shared with you, they knew for a fact. I was a bit astonished when Andrew Colvette and Alex Clark similarly jumped in in this inauthentic attempt to dissuade the idea that Charlie was softening on Catholicism. It read to me like just sheer hatred of Catholic's for no reason at all. Here's what they said. I'll jog your memory. I want you to listen to this now in the context of all of the additional details that I just shared with you. Okay? Take a listen. Was he becoming Catholic?

No. But he really loved Catholic Mass. He loved the ritual of it. He loved the beauty of old Catholic churches and the stained glass.

Him and Erica would go sometimes.

Yeah. Well, Erica is a cradle Catholic, but she ended up, like me, I grew up Catholic, I'm in first communion and went to Catholic high school. But then I ended up becoming a Christian in college through a Protestant church, through a non-denominational more experience. It was actually Presbyterian, and then it was non-denominational. I think Erica follows that same path. She and I share that.

Also, by the way, I just want to draw attention to, she's posted a photo of her and Charlie and the kids in Mass before, and somebody in the comment section said, Oh, are you guys converting? She said, No, we just like attending sometimes. She herself had said no. Yeah.

I think Charlie, one of the things Charlie really hated worshiping in a gym or some blank space that you just turn into church. There's no problem. He didn't have a problem with the act of that. He just didn't prefer it. He loved, again, the ritual, the ancient feel of a Catholic Mass, and the fact that everybody around the world that was worshiping as a Catholic, he loved that. He had some really big theological hangups with that. You can go check the videos out, him debating with Michael Knowles in good fun. They were dear friends, but they loved debating the whole Protestant versus Catholic thing.

Now, given everything that I've shared with you, does that conversation register as totally and completely authentic or trying to be like, Yeah, no. He loved the architecture of things, but beyond that, nothing was happening? That's not fully honest. It registered to me a cover-up of sorts. I was wondering, what are we exactly covering up? I wasn't going Catholic, gang, gang. I wasn't trying to bring back a 30 years war. I was just sharing the communications that I had with him. Now I felt like suddenly so many people were racing to establish that his legacy was anything but Catholic. He was super de-duper Judeo-Christian. Ironically, it was Judeo-Christian that I was challenging him on personally, privately. I was speaking to him about the political pressures of it, the way that I felt because of last year, that it registered to me more of a cult than a true theology or a religion or a religious aspect, rather. It was back in February of this year when out of nowhere, he's the one that actually messaged me and said, Catholicism is sounding better and better in February of 2024. This is when we started having that discussion We should chat soon.

Catholicism is looking better and better. I then offered back to him a chart just showing how the phrase Judeo-Christian is really associated with the dawn of the nation of Israel. We did chat We talked about it a lot, and I was thrilled, like I said, and I was being honest that he was attending Mass. But I want to, again, state that Charlie was not attending Rob McCoy's church. He was attending Mass, so it registered to me, again, as somewhat disingenuous when Pastor Rob McCoy came out and effectively asked me to stop looking into all the things that had happened in the lead up to Charlie Kirk's assassination, or at least asking me to pause it rather would be more fair of an interpretation until the memorial. I'm going to jog your memory here. Here is what Pastor Rob McCoy wrote on his Instagram after I exposed the now infamous Hamptons meeting which took place. He wrote this, Charlie Kirk was my friend, and I was his pastor. I want to simply say this regarding Candice Owens. Charlie Kirk was a friend to Candice and never publicly spoke poorly of her, although he disagreed with her.

He never operated nor entertained gossip or innuendo concerning Candice. My only comment I offer regarding Candice is this, I only wish that at this tragic time of morning, she would be the friend Charlie that he was to her. He would never have treated Candice or her family in such a way had, God forbid, this tragedy been hers. All friend, loves at all times. Proverbs. Now, I want to be very clear, if Charlie was a friend of mine, I sure hope. If Charlie was a friend of mine, I sure hope if I was I'll say in front of the world that he would raise hell to figure out what actually took place in that day. That's not being a friend. A friend is not someone who stays silent when lies are being told by the federal government. That's not a friend. Again, emotionally manipulative. The family can't have you finding who actually killed him. The family can't have you looking into those things of who was pressuring him behind the scenes. That's not good for the family. It bothers me. I have to be honest with you. That bothers me. I don't even like that to the untrained eye, he's representing himself or representing Charlie as a current congregant of his church.

I feel like a lot this year, I have been feeling as though these pastors are just not not as honest as they should be. Is that the vibe? A lot of pastors are not really so concerned with the truth, is what I would say. We should zero in here on Rob and what his motivations might be. Why did he decide to post this after I revealed that Hampton's meeting? Well, you should know, I think most people do, that both his son and his daughter-in-law work for Turning Point USA. So whether you want to represent that or not, they have a financial stake in the future of the company. He heads up the faith division. So Charlie's faith and what direction it was going into would actually matter. It would actually matter if Charlie, and I never said he was going to, decided one day to become Catholic. It would have financial implications. I want to be clear, I never had a conversation that Charlie was in the process of converting. But Rob, in particular, knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him. That's what bothers me so much about this man, him allowing these headlines, Charlie's pastor speaks out, crushes Candice because of what she said, not, not, whatever.

I don't like it. He knew, and others knew, that Charlie was done with the issue of bullying him, and I am now going to present you proof of what I am saying. This is an actual group chat, which happened two days before Charlie Kirk was assassinated. There were nine people in total on this chat, including Charlie and Rob McCoy. I'm going to protect the names of the other seven for now. To be clear, I might actually release a name every day this week, but I want to show you this because suffice it to say, Rob McCoy was on this text thread, and I think it helps contextualize him as a person, in my view, that he would attack me for telling the truth about the pressure that he was facing. Take a look. Charlie writes in this group chat, Just lost another huge Jewish donor, 2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candice. Somebody writes, Charlie writes, Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause. Then somebody writes, Sedona writes, Please do not invite Candice.

That might feel good short term, but it's not good long term, in my opinion. Like all groups, you're going to get a wide variety of opinions. That nasty free will thing that God bestowed on us makes life frustrating at times after the dust settles a bit, maybe. So again, this is 48 hours before Charlie was assassinated. He was very clear and he was very explicit, and he did not back down, not in that Hamptons meeting, which they're all lying about, nor in this text thread. I'm not going to reveal the names of the other seven. Actually, you know what? I disagree with myself four seconds ago. Let's just throw in Josh Hammer for funsies. He's on this chat. Okay. So what are we to make of that? Now that I'm showing you this and showing to you that the conversations I want you to reflect, and it took me a lot of patience to allow the lies that were being woven and the misrepresentations of people that were pretending that I was just high on lying about Charlie and the pressure he was under, the attacks that not just me, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly faced for trying to stand up and tell the truth about what Charlie was actually going through.

Why are you hearing it, though, from me and Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly? Isn't that weird? You got people that are hosting a show. Have they, in one honorable thing come out and said, You know what? F a couple of these donors who made his life a living hell in the last couple of weeks. Why haven't they done that? Also a rabbi in that chat. Why hasn't anybody made that move to at least say, to vindicate what I have been saying about what he was going through, that registers to me as very suspicious. I'm going to frankly say that it's suspicious to me. It It makes me think that in the same way that Charlie was being pressured by money, that you might be now run by that same money, that those same donors might be running you to correct the ship and to focus yourselves on eulogizing Charlie as something and someone that never once flinched, never once for a single second doubted the Israeli cause. Now they want us to suddenly believe the best way to honor Charlie is to shut up. The exact opposite of what he quite literally laid down his life doing.

Answering questions, turning point. Answering the questions is what he was doing in the second that he died. We all feel, we all are feeling spiritually the same way. So I'm just going to say it. They're not grieving right. Not up to us to decide how people grieve, but I will say unequivocally that you shouldn't grieve by lying or by gaslighting. Is that fair? Can we all agree? You should not grieve by lying and gaslighting the public. They want us to believe that the only way that we can support and honor Charlie's legacy is by donating our money. But it would not be supportive for us to try to figure out who killed him and why the feds are lying. We should instead just trust the feds and excuse their little half-truths that they're telling along the way. Now, on that point, they keep trying to make it seem like it's completely normal that four minutes after Charlie was shot, someone on their team nervously raced to grab the SD cards, specifically from the camera that is behind Charlie's head. That was because during that time, I think it's trying to make it normal that his instinct was to stand on Charlie's chair to actually violate a crime scene, but also to mysteriously just grab the SD card out of the camera.

Not only are they pretending that that was completely normal, but they're also presenting it as though it was a heroic act. It was like a forthright, clarified act to do in that moment, and that anyone who uses their own eyes and sees it as maybe a little bit suspicious are just in the business of spinning conspiracies. Now, that's exactly what was communicated by Andrew Colvette when he sat across from Tucker Carlson, who was hosting Charlie's show, and Hopefully, Tucker Carlson instantly responded with a much more sensible approach. Take a listen.

By the way, just one other conspiracy theory I just want to snuff out here. One of our dear friends that literally from the very beginning started with us and loved Charlie like a brother, he grabbed the SD cards out of the camera afterwards. And there's all these conspiracy videos about why did he grab the SD cards? Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI. Okay. It's not like he took them and ran off with them. Second of all, I asked him personally. I said, Why did you do that? And he looked at me and this was his answer. He said, Because I know people can be evil. And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody. There was videos of people after the incident going and stealing hats off the table. I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that and that that was his instinct. He's like, I'm depressed to know that that was why I did that, but I knew that I had to protect that footage because I wanted... I mean, you're recording in 4K. I'm so glad he did that. But Charlie knew the existence of evil.

Can I say, I think that people can feel the existence of evil in that just I don't like to put in a sympathetic word for people who are trying to make sense of this and coming to the wrong conclusions, I think they're motivated, for the most part, by pure intent.

I think they don't trust the authorities. They have every reason to feel that way. I know that for a fact. Not the Trump administration In general, there's been a lot of lying, and it's corroded the trust. That's not their fault, actually. They're the victims of it.

That's a good point. Thank you for saying that.

Yeah. Thank you, Tucker, for saying that. This is the reason why Tucker is so big because he has this perspective. He understands what the average person is thinking here, and the average person looks at that, and they think it's shady. Saying that there was this heart-wrenching moment where you were worried because people were stealing stuff on the table, but also you took the SD card out and not the very expensive camera, which is if you were worried about stealing and theft, maybe you would take the camera. But more importantly there is he says that the feds... That he gave it to the feds, right? Now, he doesn't insinuate, obviously, that they don't have the footage. Turning Point does have the footage. That's very clear. I saw partially the footage, which means it made it back home, or maybe they had it back home because they were recording it live, whatever it is. It was being livestreamed. But what he said actually conflicts with what Tyler Boyer is about to say, what he said over this weekend. Tyler Boyer, like I said, he's a CEO of Turning Point Action, and he went on this vendor, Worst vendor, Twitter vendor, defending the organization he thought he was defending them against public sentiments, during which time he refutes what Andrew Colvette is saying about the SD cards.

Andrew says, The turning point employee was worried about theft, but Tyler says that actually, he was instructed to secure the SD cards before the campus went on to lockdown. Now, here's the tweet, so I I can show you that. Somebody said, Rightfully, emotional manipulation and falsely equating scrutiny as some form of hate speech is not going to work here. You and Colvette admitted that the staff tampered with cameras and the most crucial video evidence in the largest political assassination in decades, hiding Mason looked guilty. Tyler countered, dude did not tamper with anything. Yes, he did. It's a crime scene. The law enforcement officers asked them to turn them over immediately so they didn't get lost in commotion before they took everyone into lockdown. Now, that is just not true. That is not true. What Tyler is saying is not true. I spoke to that turning point individual, as I told you, and he never once mentioned that police officers... I explicitly asked him, Why did you take the SD cards out, specifically of the camera behind, and the answer that I was given, which sounded more like what Andrew Kolbett said. I was emotional. I knew that Charlie was dead, and my instinct, he told me, was to take make sure that I secured the footage so that Erica would not have to see it again.

He didn't want Erica to have to see it and have to relive it. That is what he said to me on the phone. Nothing about police officers. No one's ever heard police officers ask them to secure the footage before lockdown until Tyler Boyer tweeted it this weekend, I don't like it. I just don't like it. Now, to be fair, Tyler is making it clear that he is responding to all of these tweets or Xs, whatever you're supposed to call them, because Because there have been people, he says, that have flat out accused the organization of having a hand in Charlie's murder. He doesn't share when or where exactly that happened. I think people feel you're being dishonorable by not questioning the narrative. But I haven't read anybody that's explicitly accused them of murder. In fact, the tweets that he's responding to all seem to be pretty fair, in my opinion. Now, regarding the missing campus footage, there is a user that begged Tyler to file an F OIA request, and that user wrote this. Please, I beg you, focus on getting the security footage of the sequence pre-jump off the Losey building where we can see Robinson in shot position and corroborate the story.

Like, file an F OIA, get that footage, keep it simple. He responds and he says, Guys, there's camera footage all over that campus that the police have, plus all the cameras that we had. They likely won't release it until the trial. Now, there's just one problem with that narrative. If they have all this footage and they're just not releasing it because they just want to... What? They're just worried about the trial. They want to make sure they win the trial. What's wrong with that narrative is the manhunt that took place. If indeed they have tons of footage from all these different angles and some of it in 4K, which they do, this is why we've been saying the feds are lying from day one, then the first time that that footage should have been deployed was during the 33-hour manhunt. Why didn't they release more footage at that time? If they were actually interested in catching the killer, why only release a blurry image when there is, as he mentioned, footage everywhere, all over that campus, every inch? Are we supposed to honestly believe at that time, their thought process in the middle of a manhunt was, Well, let's not release too much except for a blurry image because I know we don't have him, but in case we do have him, when we do get him, we want to make that we are able to try him by not releasing footage, which makes no sense, by the way.

I think this is what happens when a company loses their, as South Park ribbed him, master debater. What they're saying does not make sense. These people could not win in college campus debates without Charlie. Because the reality is if releasing footage, if releasing clear footage of what happened on that day means that you are going to lose in court, that it probably signifies that the person that you are trying to bring to court didn't do it. If they're somehow vindicated by the footage, if you're like, I release the footage of him jumping down on the center and I show him firing the shot, but that totally vindicates him, then you got the wrong guy. Having more footage, examining more footage, and examining more evidence should further incriminate Tyler Robinson. It should also go a very long way in getting people off of these, quote unquote, conspiracies. Common sense is what I said in the beginning. Release the footage, which you do have in your possession. It's not like just the feds have this footage. Release the footage because then people will move on from, quote unquote, conspiracies. Everything they're saying right now doesn't make sense.

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The spin is in. I got really annoyed last night going through. Somebody tagged me and said, You see Alex as Clarke posted and tried to make it seem like I lied about the new Doge Department when I literally shared the email from Charlie? They're even using this, I call it Christian slop, because What they're serving up to is, well, if you're a good Christian, you shouldn't do this. They're saying, It's demonic. You're possessed by a demon. If you want to pursue truth, said literally, No one ever but Satan incarnate. Okay? Truth is truth. It is always appropriate. Another one of these talking points were coming out is, People are doing this for clicks. They're motivated by money. Do you guys understand the tens of millions of dollars that Turning Point USA made in the two weeks following Charlie Crooks' assassination. It would be insane for a person to suggest that if a random guy on YouTube catches a million views discussing ballistics, which there have many gun guys who have done videos on ballistics and caught a million views, but that's somehow immoral because they're maybe going to make $10,000 if they keep that up for an entire month.

That is insane. It actually relies on financial literacy to think that that's immoral Good for them. Good for them. If you have a small account and you somehow got a million views because you told the truth, then bless you. Don't let them shame you. Doing it for clicks. Oh, no. Their account talks about ballistics all the time. This is now just a political assassination, the most high profile ever, and people want to understand every aspect. So we're clicking and we're watching these individuals that look like they know what they're talking about, especially in the absence of any truth coming from the authorities. What are we supposed to believe, that the more moral thing would be for us to behave like Turning Point USA employees? Alex Clark calling me out, are you kidding me? Should I do what she did? It would have been more moral for me to invite the Wall Street Journal a literal week after Charlie is murdered to photograph me in high boots standing over his memorial site at the office, like the outside Memorial Vigil, where people mourn and drop off flowers and gifts because that's exactly what Alex Clarke did.

I thought it was icky. I thought it was gross. I didn't say anything because everybody mourns in their own way. But I got to stop saying that. I got to stop saying everybody grieves in their own way. This is the article that It was published on September 18th, so we can assume that they at least photographed her one day, an interviewer one day earlier. That's being charitable. This was done. Latest, again, one week after Charlie was assassinated. Again, take a look at this. Pull that up. I'm going to pull this photo up because I just want to look at the photo. This is literally her being shot in front of the gifs that people are dropping off for Charlie. But maybe it's Photoshop. It doesn't look like it is to me. Even if it was Photoshop, I would be losing my mind. I don't understand how anyone would let this go out and think that it's okay if they knew Charlie. I couldn't even speak to the press that week. I still haven't spoken to the press about Charlie Kirk, actually. I haven't even given one interview about Charlie Kirk because it felt icky to me.

I'm just focused on investigating his murder. Anyways, I want to read a little blurb from this article. Again, published September 18th. Alex Clarke was about to head to the airport for a work trip to celebrate the first anniversary of her podcast when she heard the news. Her boss, Charlie Kirk, had been shot. She says, The very first thought that popped into my head was, I'm so glad that Charlie knew Jesus, said Clark, 32, who hosts the Maha friendly podcast Culture Apothecary, Returning Point USA. The second thought was, What will happen now? And the third thought was, thank God Trump is President. I don't know. You? People around the world didn't even know Charlie. Third thought, thank God Trump is President. Like, Did you go Magga? Did you go like, I'm glad he knows the Lord, and then MAGA? What are we missing here? Does that feel okay at all? Goes on to say she praises the FBI director, Cash Patel, and his deputy, Dan Bongino for their leadership in the hunt for the suspect. What's so crazy is that we have them in office because of Charlie, Clark said. So honor the feds, quick pick outside, and also mega, mega hard.

That is like, I'm sorry, I get it. Everybody grieves differently, okay? But not that way. The last thought that I had as I spent days crying, had difficulty physically pulling myself out of bed. Felt like I was being a bad mother. Was, Man, I'm sure glad Donald Trump is President. I didn't feel that way. I didn't feel that way. In fact, I was angry. I remember feeling angry when Trump moved to do a same time post, Bibi Netanyahu, and then publishes a picture of Charlie with an Israeli flag behind. I was pretty angry about that. I thought, Yuck, that's gross. Have you no dignity and respect? Post a picture of him with his family, trying to already sow seeds into people's minds that, no, he died for Israel. He loved Israel so much. This would be appropriate, especially in the context. And that's what I just read to you. It was gross. But anyways, I don't know why. I don't want to why, but the people that are critiquing us for investigating the murder are not critiquing themselves or not holding a mirror to themselves. Anyways, Alex has decided to share a total half-truth PR spin on another tweet Tyler Boyer, where he responds to someone asking about Charlie establishing a Doge Department.

Again, we presented that to the public. We showed the internal email, the internal memo that went out. It was Charlie in his own words. We showed the whole email. I didn't read the paragraph where he announced that Justin Strife would be the COO, but we read the entirety related to the DOGE Department. Here's what Tyler says about that. He says, She took a sentence and made something up. Tpusa doesn't audit every year. Always has. Charlie They constantly look for ways to make everything we do more efficient. That's TPUSA. It operates eight times more effectively than any other similar operation. What did I make up when I shared an email and Charlie said he wanted to establish a new Doge Department? Why would he call it new if he was doing it every year? And wow, what foresight you had as a company that's been around for 10 years or maybe more than 10 years that you were doing Doge since the beginning? No, you're conflating and it's dishonest. The audit It has F all to do with Doge. The audit is what 501(C)(3)s are instructed to do. Get an independent auditor and audit yourselves, or else the IRS will hound you.

Now, when you are auditing yourselves, I will guarantee you the Clinton Foundation audited themselves annually. That does not mean that there is not corruption. It means that you're doing things that are above board. From a government perspective, it does not mean that within your own organization there is not corruption. That is the reason for DOGE Department, at least according to what Elon Musk said. Nobody, when he established DOGE with a vague Ramiswami, was thinking that he was going in there because he was going to see if they're violating the IRS laws. No, I think he went in there to see wasteful spending and to see where the money was going, where our tax dollars was going. That's the vibe I got. They're relying on us to be, again, financially illiterate to not understand how it works. I shared a 501(C)(3) lawyer with them, so I met her in her offices with Charlie, and she explained the reasons why she said that you got an independent auditor. I actually think that for organizations of a certain size, you're required by law to do an annual audit if you're 501(C)(3). I think it's state by state that guides that.

But to present this like this means we're above board, I have a feeling some people are going to die on that sword because the reality is that big companies, inevitably, you will find corruption. I'm hearing some stuff. A lot of contractors, that's something that you can do. As just one example, that's completely legal but utterly immoral, is if you're outsourcing all of the millions of dollars to contractors and you're getting kickbacks. That's just one example. I take money from donors, and then I show that I'm paying out to a contractor who doesn't work for Turning Point USA, but that contractor is then somehow paying me back. That would be something that wouldn't flag the IRS, but then would flag a CEO and a DOGE department if they started looking at where the money was spending. I hope that clarifies matters. Now, shifting gears only slightly. I don't often or really ever speak about my faith journey because I'm still on it, and I don't want to make a mistake or be wrong. In many ways, I feel like this pressure that I don't want to let Catholics down because I don't know everything, and I prefer the people that have been Catholic forever to speak on things as I'm still a student.

But I do want to say that a major clue for me that being non-denominational was no longer working for me happened because of things politically. When I tried to express certain questions about the modern state of Israel and was instead met with what I can only describe as cult-like behavior. You're seeing it right now, right? Judeo-christian after Judeo-Christian, making videos, it's cult-like behavior. You can't leave. There's only one way out of here. People quoting scripture to actually fulfill what became quite obvious to was just their political lens. Yeah, people taking money to do that. Keeping it above bar, it's not illegal, but you are taking money. You're taking free trips. What are your motives here? If you're citing scripture to defend the actions of Bibi Netanyahu, you're a fraud. Of course, you're a fraud. If you're accepting money to do that in the process, you're worse than a fraud. Anyway, I want to show you guys this clip that someone sent me. This was a sermon which was given by a pastor on September 21st, 2025. Now, it's not necessary to name I'm the Judeo-Christian pastor. I'm never trying to put any fire on them because I actually think what they're doing is important.

Because I find out about all these sermons because their congregants are sending them to me. They've got the CIA in their own congregation, and people are going, and I stopped attending that day because I realized something's not right here. I want you to listen to this pastor's words because you might, too, feel similarly inspired to recognize that something is wrong. I want to also be clear here, it's not every pastor. It's going to be fair for me to say that. But pastors that have a very strong political bend, something's not right there. Now, to tee this up, the title of his sermon is What Has Defiled You. He has decided for this particular sermon to pull from Paul's letter to the Corinthians. That specific biblical passage that he cites is Chapter 7: 1, and it reads, the Bible reads, Therefore, beloved, since we have these promises, let us cleanse ourselves from everything that defiles body and spirit, perfecting wholeness in the fear of God. Now, you don't need to be a priest or a pastor to think right now about what you might perceive is the point of that passage. Probably thinking through it. Yeah, it's important.

Body, spirit. Probably not what you're thinking right now is that this has something to do with Meg and Kelly. You're probably not thinking, Paul wrote this letter to the Corinthians because it's a point that he wants to prove about Meg and Kelly. But he's going to get there. That's how this passage is going to get there. He's going to explain that. Take a listen.

Why am I bringing this up? Because I was watching an interview with Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly, and this is what they said, Everyone under 30 in America is against Israel. The older generation is not because we've seen the Sixth Day War in 1967. There wasn't a narrative that was so prevalent right now with foolish people that are so deceived, like a Candice Owens and like a nick Fuentes. Young people are eating that up, and they're changing their philosophy on what these people say that do not base your ideology unless somebody has a Bible open. That is where your ideology comes from. You're going to be like that tree-hugging hippie mom That I'm trying to save her kids from being bitten by a rattlesnake and dying, and she's all worried about some habitat when she knows she's not welcoming in rattlesnakes in her home. Our ideologies, when we really, really think about them, they've been formed by a society that is not basing everything they believe out of the word of God. I challenge you today, if I've said anything that you don't think is right, bring your Bible and show me. Because if I'm wrong, I want to know.

Challenge accepted. Look, far be it for me. I'm not a seminarian. I really don't think that is what Paul… I don't think it was about nick Fuentes. Call me crazy. I know you guys do on Sundays, but I don't think it was about nick Fuentes and Candice and the modern created state of Israel. Again, I could be wrong. I'm open, like you, to being incorrect, but it's just like there's something that is so fundamentally disgusting, and I hope you guys agree, about using the Bible to justify your own personal rants, using the Bible to justify why you're attacking somebody, preaching a story. Just start a podcast. You can be like me. I'm not sitting here going, Turn your Bible here and you are defiled and blah, blah, blah. What this really means is that turning point. There's something so incredibly evil about that. He has a quick second here when he wraps up his points about me that I want to get to because I'm starting to realize I don't even think he knows what defile means, actually. Take a listen.

You need to go to the Lord and say, What has defiled Hopefully, some of you that have been defiled with the nation of Israel because you've been in an echo chamber of nick Fuentes and Candice Owens, that defilement has now come off of you, and you're going to block them because they're anti what scripture says. What defiles you? What defiles you?

So I think what he's saying that if I'm being charitable here, he's suggesting you'll somehow be saved if you block me on Insta? What is this? Actually, what is that? I'll tell you what it is. It's completely heredical in a theological sense, but it's also unhinged. It's just unhinged. He looks unhinged. It's like so much relies on him getting his point across. He just opens his Bible, points to a verse and just throws it up and says whatever he wants to. He's basically me on aim when I was in the eighth grade picking out quotes from whatever those quote websites are and just throwing it on my away message. There's no rhyme or reason that he's doing this. It's a feeling that he has, and he wants to express it and justify it using a quote without its context or even understanding of why that quote was said or why that biblical passage was written. It's wrong, and it's also deranged. Everything that's happening right now to continue to justify what the native state of Israel is doing, the modern state of Israel is doing, which has nothing to do with the ancient Israel, the biblical Israel, is they are now trying to censor us, they're trying to control our speech, they are murdering children.

And so the more that you defend this and that you pretend that this is what God wants, the more that you will expose yourself. The more that you expose yourself. Even this headline is crazy. This came out, that their TikTok, which we covered this before, the moderation team, IDF soldiers, and Bibi Netanyahu saying, We're taking over TikTok. My agents are going to get that in a purchase. That's what needs to happen so that we can win. When announcing essentially psychological warfare on the American people because they don't think we can think for ourselves and decide who we want to follow on X all by ourselves. Apparently, they're going to ban the juice box emoji. Because people, because they can't talk about the modern state of Israel, have been using the apple juice because juice can sound like juice. So they're now moderating that. I will say this, that's going to be funny because it's going to be a game like Whac-A-Mole. All we can do is laugh at it because these people are savvy. These TikTokers are like, They're pretty savvy on the internet. They're going to be announcing, Let's use this emoji instead. From now on, this represents the modern state of Israel.

Before you know it, there's going to be no emojis that are loud on TikTok. Actually, it would be funny. The funniest thing that they could possibly do right now is every time you want to talk about Israel on TikTok, use the term TikTok. See if TikTok will ban TikTok from TikTok. That's how We went. If that happens, we went. We get to laugh forever that we made TikTok ban TikTok because TikTok is actually code for Israel. The modern state of TikTok. That's what I want you guys to do because that would just be funny. We have to actually have fun because it's getting so crazy. We have to actually have fun and continue to smile and laugh and to be happy warriors for truth because Charlie always believed in being a happy warrior. That is just a fact. Anyways, you guys, let me read some more of our sponsors for today before I get into some of your comments. First, I want to tell you guys about pure talk. Our society works because of the freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment. Every day Americans should be able to speak openly about honesty, family, and traditional values without retribution.

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Thank you, Jennifer. That is a massive donation. I really, really appreciate that. All of you guys that have been donating to the show to support us, I just want you to know we really appreciate it and we see it. Melissa Forberg, similarly, really nice donation here. Spent the weekend researching the Kabbalah. It was, to say the absolute least, terrifying. Thank you. Yes, It is very important. Of course, if you are in my Book Club, we're about to really get into it. By the way, tomorrow, we start the book, which they don't want to resell, which is crazy. I don't know where David Baccahn's children are, the author of the book. He is Jewish himself. But I'm just wanting to know that they're blocking money from you. They don't want the public to read this book, which you can download and find it online for free. But still, it's pretty crazy that they are now realizing people are catching on. That book will dive into the Kabbalah. It's very important to know. Similarly, like I've said from the beginning, we have different denominations within Christianity. That's what this whole episode has been about. I don't know why.

I don't know why so many evangelicals have such vitriol for Catholics. The feeling is not mutual. Genually, the feeling is not mutual. On the Catholic side or on the Orthodox side. It's interesting to save a lease. But similarly, within Judaism, there are different sects. There just are. We don't realize that. We don't know what they believe in. We just go, Oh, well, it's Judaism. It's the Pentitude, the first five books of the Bible. No. There's also the Talmud. There's also the Kabbalah. To just not actually study and understand all of those differences, it makes us extremely ignorant and very likely to be endoctrinated into one of those religions, convinced that it's actually modern science, which is what's actually happening. I think we live in a Kabbalah society more than anything else. I think that this book that we're going to read will help you get there. We go there in the Book Club. We go there. If you'd like to join the Book Club, We are starting a new book tomorrow. Tomorrow, we'll be an introduction to that book. We will wrap up this last book that we read, which is similarly terrifying, which is the Assault on Truth.

These scales will fall from your eyes if you read the Assault on Truth to understand how they will lie to protect the most evil people in the entire world. You have to destroy your belief system about Sigmund Freud, and then you're ready to learn about what Sigmund Freud actually, what his major contribution was, and that's the book we're diving into next. Sigmund Freud in the Jewish Mystical Tradition is the name of that book by David Bacan that we will be starting on tomorrow's Book Club. Lauren writes, Lauren Houlin writes, You mentioned the suspicious way so many of the individuals surrounding Charlie's case are new to their role. I live in Dallas, and I noticed the ICE shooting that Daniel Camo, the Dallas police chief, is new to the role. As of April, we are all being lied to. Yeah, it's almost like they're like actors. You know what I mean? You're going to just play the role of Sheriff when we do this thing. You're going to play the role of this, and everyone's going to be so new. It's pretty lame. It is pretty lame. Again, questions were allowed to ask them. Exposed to truth writes, I had been a Catholic my whole life and attended a nondenominational church once and found it to be cringy, like that pastor that you showed the video of.

Keep fighting for truth. I'm sure Charlie is cheering you from heaven praying for you. Actually, to tell you how emotional I was after Charlie's death, it was really just not myself, obviously. But I was upset. I was almost upset with my priest because it went on Sunday, and I expected him to say something about Charlie Kirk, which is not what he should be doing. You can dedicate a mass to somebody, but he didn't say anything about Charlie Kirk, and I was like, Oh, I don't like that. Then now that I've removed from that, I actually appreciate that. That is what I actually find that I love about the Catholic religion is there's no political bent there. That is what I I attend the Latin Mass, and what I was upset with, I now really appreciate in the retrospect that there's no drop of politicism when you're in the room. Jennifer Barney writes, I admire you so much. It's easy to drop something and go with the flow. Don't drop this. Something is not right. Thank you, Candice, for being our voice. I'm actually so grateful I can be your voice, and I'm grateful that you see that when they're attacking me, they're just attacking people for asking the most basic of questions.

Again, I'm so grateful to Tucker, I think is also one of our voices. He immediately interjects and he's like, Well, let's be fair here. The feds have a lot about everything, always. Why should we think this is different, especially when they're dropping these weird text messages? I'm grateful that you guys trust me to be your voice. Obviously, you guys were all on the same squad here. It's because of the information that you're giving me that I'm able to even platform it. I have so much gratitude for you guys as well. Every I start the day with gratitude. I always say how grateful I am for the platform that I have been given by God and the people that have invested in me by just watching and hearing what I'm saying and standing up for me when I can't stand up for myself because I'm being attacked from every witch direction. From the bottom of my heart, I do want to say thank you to you guys. Moderator Marzie writes, Rob O'Neill, the guy who shot Bin Laden, questions the story of Charlie on Piers Morgan's show. Also, the South African ambassador to France was found dead in a Paris hotel.

Oh, no, France. It's hot right now, France. You guys already know. Look, I want to say this. I want to make sure I read I Budget also asked, what's the update on your Australian visa status? I want to answer that real quickly. Your Australian fans need you. The Supreme Court of Australia heard, I don't think it's called the Supreme Court. You guys call it something else. It is your Supreme Court heard our arguments, and we are still awaiting a decision. Obviously, we can't rush them in their decision, so you will be the first to know when we hear back. Speech is on the line, but of course, we will always respect the decision of any country. We've never been in trouble, so it's weird that I can't travel to Australia. It's very strange to me. Everybody else will travel to Australia. That's been in tons of trouble. But that is the power of truth when it is spoken. That is what is so amazing. All of the money in the world that Israel has, the money that they spend on influencers, people that have been assassinated by trying to get them to register under Far Sarah, presidents, everything that they have done, and every piece of that carefully woven tapestry of deception is falling apart because people are speaking truth.

That is why free speech is important. That is why it is the single thing that they want to attack first is because truth when spoken, that's Christ. Christ is truth. It is that powerful. That's something to be amazed by, to be amazed that they are scrambling and they want us to stop speaking and to stop communicating and to shut down communications. It shows you the power, the power of Christ, truly. I will say in closing and going back to France, if I found Brigitte's penis, I will find who killed Charlie Kirk. We'll see you guys tomorrow.