Transcript of ZACH BRYAN FALLOUT & THE FUTURE OF BFFS — BFFs EP. 199

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Yeah, feel good, look good.

What's that hat?

I was more talking about the shirt.

Oh, got it. All right, BFF, new episode. Well, a lot has happened since last episode, and I don't really know how to start. I would say, and it is really tabri, I guess. I think it's been overwhelmingly positive and sweet, and I don't know what the right word is, but a great response to you bearing your soul a little bit last week. So I don't know. I feel like it was a good thing. And people are so appreciative that you turned down the money, shared the story, It's like you're seeing a lot of women be like, it's a role model and strength. So overall, I don't know. It's weird to say, could have gone better because nobody wants to go through that, obviously. But I don't know. To me, on a subject we were going back and forth on, it left no doubt to me that you made the right decision.

Yeah, I agree. It definitely wasn't easy, but I don't think anything that is important or impactful is easy. So I think I made the right decision. It's really overwhelming to see the response from women. I didn't understand the impact it was going to have. I think when I made the decision, I I just knew it was the right one to make. It's beautiful, honestly, to see everyone coming together and just women standing up for each other and me. Yeah, I could cry talking about it. It's beautiful.

Yeah. It really has. I'm not sure where it will go on this episode. I guess a little bit of the fallout. I saw this. I don't know that it matters. It almost seems like Zack's response to it has just been like to blog through it, or in his case, to just post songs through it and act like it's not happening.

I found it funny that his way of responding was always through the Instagram story, and that was going to be the original track title because we were making fun of the fact that he posted on the Instagram story the morning of when the Raya stuff all came out. It just stayed his cadence of delivery is using his Instagram story over and over again.

Yeah, I I think the response itself, the silence, is deafening. I think his response proves his character again. I think it just proves everything that I said in the last episode. And it is a little frustrating. I mean, obviously, when I came forward with all of this, I knew people weren't going to believe me or people were going to be Team Zack, and there's two sides to every story. But me last Last week, I took the high road. I didn't share the whole story. And me taking the high road wasn't out of stupidity or protection. It was me throwing him a bone. It was me- Which is I would have never done, by the way, but go ahead.

It's crazy.

I don't believe people are lost causes. It was my final cry at help to try to get him to see what he does to people and to try to get him to get help. And I obviously think he's not responding responding, because if he is to respond, he has to deny it. And if he denies it, then I'm full story, then I post all the videos in the recording. So it's like, that in itself should be enough. But I threw him a bone, and I hope that he actually looks at it, reflects, takes time to fix himself and stop putting women in these situations that he puts women in. And yeah, that's really why I handled it the way that I did. It's not to ruin him or whatever. I'm not an idiot. He's still going to have concerts and songs, and people are still going to love him. This isn't to not- You can't ruin him.

No.

I mean, you can, but you can't.

You look at the world, Chris Brown, punch Rihanna in the face with pictures.

Yeah. I mean, if you look at it, it's like, we don't... Of course, the world always blames women. We applaud bad men. We make them president. So it's just very obvious what's going to happen after this. But I did it for women, not for Zack or for his family. It's just like, last week, I proved who I was. So you can say, Bre said this, has done this before. Last week, I proved who I was. What have you proven? That you have Wi-Fi and thumbs and you know how to fucking talk shit online. It's beyond me and it's crazy. And if you choose not to believe me, that's your own story. And I don't have to share anything else if I don't want to.

Yeah. And my vibe from seeing the reaction, there's always going to be people who just dig their heels in the sand. And I've seen some people separate the artist from the music or whatever. And again, that's happened throughout time. I don't think there's any element of what we are doing. We're like, Oh, my God, he's got nobody buying tickets or anything like that. I don't think anybody, gun to head, looking in the mirror, has any doubts of everything you've said. The evidence, and you've kept a lot of it back, is too overwhelming. You don't offer $12 million dollars unless you're trying to hide something. Yeah, that's enough evidence. I know me. I've been, and this always happens whenever I'm involved in something. I was like, Well, Jay's a bad guy. He's been accused of shit. I have been accused of shit. I scream it as loud as I could within seconds being like, This is not true. I have the proof it's not true. I'll post the proof it's not true. He hasn't said dick because you're telling it. It's so obvious it's the truth. Even me who's had nothing really... I can't imagine, Bre, I've had so much stuff sent to me or re-brought up when you start doing old text or DMs being like, I tried to warn you before you started dating, and I read it and it's almost verbatim.

I have a story someone just sent to me, and I won't go into detail because, again, it's brief stuff, but it's somebody close to Zack being fired, and he details a story in vivid detail, like the night, what it's about, the fight, all of it. And he's like, I don't want to get sued. There's so many stories like that coming out. His ex-girl. It's not... Again.

Yeah, I know them all. I mean, there's people right now in Zack's camp that hate him, men that are feeding me inside information. It's just crazy.

Which almost goes to the next thing. And you look at this, it's like... And I get Warner Music Group, and we'll talk about that a little And people like, he's a huge country star. He's a business onto himself, generating millions and millions, not just for him, people around. But what goes into protecting somebody like this and allowing it to continue in the behavior and the NDAs.

I don't know how any- Spineless pussy. Everyone that works for him is a spineless pussy. Hi, I know you're watching. You watch everything that I do. I have, from the get-go, I tried to tell them this. I'm the only one that ever stood up to Zack. I'm the only one that was ever like, We need to fix these things. They're yes men because they get paid. And just like I said to Jack on the phone, high down, you have to live with what you're doing, who you're protecting, just for a check. I'm going to be able to sleep at night. You're going to have this farm that you fucking live on and do all these fun, have all your animals. It's blood money. It's hush money. It's crazy. I don't understand why so many people are willing to It's a scary thing. It's a scary thing. And I've been on the other side of it, and it's horrifying what they got.

And I think that's why it resonated with so many people, especially women, obviously, because there's countless stories. And again, different, but a diddy, He was getting away with shit for years. How? Ndas, money. So you haven't seen the cycle stop like that. And I think that's why it resonated with so many people. And all the credit union, I've seen, I saw you talk about I saw people being like, Dave paid Bre in to make it like content.

That is pissing me off so much.

Yeah, totally false. Totally not true at all. It's crazy. Yeah, 100% Bre's decision, because that's not even like... We didn't discuss that at all. Yeah, I have that one text, which I was furious mad because I thought they were jerking Bre around. But there was no talk between me and Bre like, Well, I'll give you some. This was like Bre's decision. Yeah.

Period. Like, end of story. Even after when I told him I wouldn't sign it, the whole team is like, Well, what? Did Dave offer you 10 million or something not to sign it? I'm like, You guys just can't comprehend that it's not about money. It's crazy. No one can comprehend that it's not about the money. It's so much bigger than that. It's crazy.

I don't get it, but I know Bre is protecting Zack. Still, and You may be like, How's he... Because there's stories that are forward. Have you seen the Roan number 2 diss track, Bre?

Yeah, I gave him everything to write about.

There is a diss track that has not been... It was for Bre, two scenes in the vault.

It was for me. It was for me. And I gave him the stories.

Yes, and these are stories I had not heard. And I've heard a lot. My jaw, I could not believe this unso...

For the people like, you don't- And you know what? Last week's episode, I wanted to cut the whole last- Yes.

I wanted to cut the whole last thing because I was like, it's really going to page in a bad light. Which is the most... Yeah. So that last story, the birthday party story, we recorded it. Bre wanted it cut. I really thought it had to be in. I called Bre the next day, and my point of view was, I know how awful Zack is. I think there's going to be a school of thought, Well, he's just a douchebag controlling. There's a lot of asshole boyfriends. That story in particular gave a window. You can still be a douchebag guy, but that was something different. Like, Oh, shit. Josh and I reacted the same way when we heard it. It's like, we get it. That story-That gave light into exactly the type of guy Zack Ryan is.

There's only a specific type of guy that does that move. And you hear that story, and everyone's met one of them. Everyone's met one of them, and you go to your head and you go, Okay, I know exactly who this guy is now.

Again, just to reiterate, Bre didn't want that in there. We really, for the sake of not only her, the whole story, what people. Yeah, it was-Yeah.

Obviously, I knew it It was an important story, but even when I told it in the beginning, I was like, I don't know if I want to tell it. It's just hard to recollect that myself and then to share it. It's hard, especially I think a lot of people are forgetting that I'm too weeks. At that point, I was two weeks out of it. So even recalling those things or understanding those things is really hard and still is. So I think that's why I'm holding back so much. And I do think I will just continue to hold back because It's like, I said this on TikTok, I painted a very clear picture. I really set the scene. And if you can't see it, then it's not for you. And I think that you're on the wrong side of things. So I don't think I have to say much more. If you can't see through what I said, then I don't know, maybe you're on the wrong side of things. Yeah.

Anybody at this point who's like, Well, I need more proof, you could probably give them pretty concrete proof, and they'll still come up with something. And there's always going to be that. Yeah, of course. There's a superstar, and there's plenty of assholes who still have bands.

Yeah. And like we said, that wasn't my goal at any of this. If that was my goal, I'd be telling you everything. I'd be posting the videos and shit. My goal was just to share this, share my story, and help other women. It has nothing to do with tearing him down. He's never going to be happy in his life, ever. Miserable person had. He has everything in the world, had everything in the world, and still miserable. So, I mean, God, good luck to him in his life.

I think that's a good way to look. And we'll go through these sheets and go one by one the things that we come out with.

Yeah, this can be our last Zack Bryant episode. We never have to talk about it.

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Josh, where are you with Warner Music Group? What the fuck?

Have you-We do this, you're wearing it, Smallest Man.

We do this track, and this is, you and I do it on all public things. We do a day-long shoot, a full-blown movie set type shoot. We put the thing out, and they're taking it down. It must be because how lucky is Bre, that's The Only Thing. And you mentioned, they were hints. I used to do this thing with Warner Music, but not really, and no one really paid it. Turns out you're a full-blown Warner Music Group artist.

Well, I had said that I had a record deal with Warner.

I had said that to everyone. But you were like, It's done. It's not a big deal. It doesn't matter.

So for us, they had it picked up on the option. To us, we were like, Okay, so this isn't really something they're focused on. We had went to them a couple of different times. Not recently, maybe two years ago was the last time, maybe, or a year and a half ago was the last time we had talked to them. We had talked about doing comedy music again or stuff in that lane. They had always just been like, Oh, you can do whatever you want. You can do whatever you want. That was the whole... The whole deal was around me coming off as Still Softish, making like, Lonely Island, Andy Sandberg, pop star type music. When we came out with this, in our minds, we were like, Okay, we're just going to feed what they wanted us to do the whole time, just go and make a little funny track. But obviously, they weren't so happy on the Zack Bryant side. His ANR was my ANR, so they got on that and blocked it about as quick as they possibly could.

Have you talked to them at all?

Yeah. So from where I know it stands right now, we're just trying to get out of the deal.

So on our end, we're like, What is going on? So we got the contract. This is no joke contract. It's like a 75 page.Four more albums. Yeah, and I don't know why you need by no option.

It's not four albums. It's not four albums. I don't have to do four albums. What do you have to do?

I think you got to do four albums.

I think it's just four releases. So it's just like I could release three songs going essentially.

But do they have to approve it?

That's where it gets into that muddy water area.

Because our lawyer looked at it. I sent it to UTA, and I got the same reaction every time looked at it. They got this boy locked up.

Who do you think I was with when that deal happened?UTA?Gruel. No.

Yeah. It wasn't even like this was something I had maybe just turned 18, maybe.

And it was like, that's when it was like, I was listening to the people that were in charge of my business, and they were like, This is the move that you should make. We have all the lawyers. This is a great deal for you. I'm 17, 18 years old, been in LA for two months. I'm like, Okay, yeah, sure. Let's do it. A record label, that's crazy.

I think if we could have kept that song up, I don't know how big it would have gotten.

The biggest thing, it still is, and It's blocked from everything.

Guys, I know.

Before Smallest Man came out, I was thinking to myself, I'm like, Does this do Still Softish? Because Still Softish was a time where it was a mix of perfect... Tiktok was at its biggest. Covid was going... Everything was that perfect storm, right? So I was like, Is this going to get still... I think it would have passed Still Softish.

Oh, for sure.

I think it would have passed Still Soft. I think it would have got over 50 million views on YouTube.

I saw you. You were Texas, people are playing it. I was at Ole Miss, people are coming up to me playing it.

They're playing it at all the bars. I keep getting DMs about it.

You guys got an offer, actually, that I wanted to get your reaction on the pod. Who?

I talked to Matt and Tareek, and they wanted to know if Dave and crew would want to perform the diss tracks at Rolling Loud in December. We could make a huge moment out of it.

I mean, shit.

Dave is not going to be able to do that. I already saw this, and I already said, Here's the thing about me performing live. I can't. Lipsing. Lipsing. Lipsing. Lipsing. I can't even lip sing. I don't know the word. My brain doesn't work like that. When I had to go do this thing myself, if you ever heard the first version of Smallest Man, Day's version.

It was- Wait, I was going to say, can we play that? It's so bad. Can we please play it? I laughed so hard.

It was so unbelievably bad. It was so bad. I was going to make a video being like, I know you're waiting on Day's version, but it- It's so bad. I don't know what they did. It wasn't all me, though. Austin is like a fucking loose lips. It's shocking. Have you heard it, Josh?

I might have heard a little bit of it.

You hear one second, you're like, All right, this can't work. Oh my God. It's...

Yeah, people were missing my angelic voice on the other day.

No, you're You're really good.

Thank you.

Oh my God, Dave.

What?

That's your high...

Can you guys hear it?

I've been listening to it the whole time.No.

I couldn't hear it.Oh, we didn't know it was playing. No, I couldn't hear it.

It sounds like your high school SoundCloud rapper.

That probably sounds good compared to what I'm thinking.

Can you hear it now?

Yes. Yeah. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

All right, we get the point.

Oh, my goodness.

You sound like you're on pills or something.

There were a couple of things going on. They were telling me to go.

There's a grave story.

Got that Kodak crap in you. Austin's probably not telling you. They're like, Go low because it'll catch you and he can AI you or something. That was, Jesky made you... He made you sing like, weirdly low. And then I was just like, I got to give up. Like, get Caroline. And I said it on the last... I don't know that their team, they should just let the smallest man go because we have Ron sitting here who is just ripping off like, unbelievable tracks.

Yeah, I feel like they made it worse for themselves. It's just bringing more attention. And it's really proving the smallest man, just whole thing.

A hundred %. I did see this. Deb did like, and this is his prior, another surefire sign.

I mean, come on.

All the Xs are coming out.

This was an awesome video, by the way. The little hint she was given in the video with the Josh, the Josh wine, with the music. It was a chef's kiss of a video.

That was the original everyone's against each other, but it's more the people around somebody who allows that behavior, not only allows, can phones, turns the other cheek. Mike, security guard, who's been there a lot. I was like, Mike, you have to know a lot. He told me a story. You can tell he's a fucking... I'm going to tell the story. You're going to tell he's a piece of shit just by this story. Mike, our security guard, one of the nicest guys going, great security guard. You guys were at some event. Maybe it was in Boston. Nashville. Was it Nashville? Yeah. Zack had his security guy. Mike's there. His security guy, Zack, is in the front seat. Mike's in the front seat. You guys are out in a venue. The streets are crowded in Nashville. You're trying to get out. They like each other, Mike and the security guard. Mike's just like, Can you go around to make sure I don't hit anybody, to help back out? And Zack's like, You're not allowed to talk to my security guard. Just that little story.

What the fuck are you on?

You're trying to back out your crowded street.

I'm It's like being... Every time we bring something up, I'm reminded of a new story.

This one- Should have got him to go out and back him, just run him over.

And those guys get on. They're just trying to get out of a parking lot.

That's just reminded me of another one, you know Fibula, who you hate?

Yeah, I don't like Fibula.

Zack tried to murder him because he touched my shoulder. In the car, made him pull the car over, kicked him out of the car. It was crazy. Oh, my God, I forgot about that because it was just the norm.

Yeah. God. This story, crazy, too. They're all, it's one after another. I guess, have you known this, Zack? And this will be the last time we'll talk about it, and then we'll go on away. But he was dating somebody or getting ready to take a with somebody, Grace, who is an OnlyFans, I guess.

Oh, this was right before I started dating him?

Yeah, she thought she was going to Paris with him. And then three days later, he hard launched your relationship, which, again, there's nobody There has been nobody coming out that has been like, Well, I had a different experience. And again, that to me is what makes what you did so important. Not just this, but it's breaking the cycle. Like someone else wants to date him, fine. Yeah, good. I'm sure, but eyes wide open of what the fuck is going on.

Yeah. And people are saying, well, she knew. Brianna should have known. This has all been out there. It's in his lyrics. No, none of his exes have ever came forward about anything. This has not been out there. I have not been warned in his lyrics?

I'm sorry. That's the argument I've ever heard.

I'm sorry. He says that he's an alcoholic and he's going to disappoint you in his lyrics. He doesn't say what he's actually going to do to you in his lyrics. And also that argument pisses me off because you're claiming, okay, he is aware that he abuses women. You're telling me, yes, he told you in his lyrics that he abuses women. So we're going to blame you for the aware man with hundreds of millions of dollars, all the resources, all the every every possibility to get help, but is aware that he abuses women and keeps doing it. We're going to blame you because you didn't listen to it.

I'm not aware of him having lyrics that says he abuses women as far as I know.

He doesn't.

Yeah. It's like he said he drinks and he's like, not a perfect man. That's what he says in his lyrics. I'm not a perfect man. Yeah, I'm not a perfect man. There's a lot of not perfect men out there that are nothing even remotely similar to what we're talking about here. Yeah.

And also everyone's like, well, he just needs a break out of a relationship. He just needs to be single for a while. This man has been singled since he's been married. He's been cheating on everyone, every single relationship the whole time. This man has never been in a relationship. My boy has been single his whole life.

It's crazy.

My guy is single forever.

Yeah. Bruin singing Morgan Wallen. Great. I have a video of the Celtics locker room bumping. Smallest Man as well. I asked if we could post it. Can we see that? What's that? Can we see the video? I asked if we could post it. I haven't gotten the approval because it's taken from inside the locker room.

Can you send it to me for a personal view?

Yes, of course.

I will say I've never liked the Boston Bruins. I'm trying to make believe Skye. It's It's a hard team. They've beaten us up. But I love the Boston Bruins when I woke up and I saw that video of them singing.

That was awesome. That was awesome. My mom is the biggest Bruins fan ever. I walked downstairs, she's sobbing. I'm like, Mom, what are you sobbing at? She's like, The Bruins video. It was adorable. It made her life.

I would have loved to see Morgan Walling when he first... And obviously, he's huge, but his song went as as big as, smallest man again in a time. Can I have some ad for that?

Yeah, we blew up his song all over again. I saw a clip of him performing the song at a concert, and The way he was introducing it and saying, You guys all know this one. I think you can get a little louder.

I was hoping for a brief shout out so bad. There's a little side maybe.

I had a phone up to my ear. Those were old videos. Were they all old? He's done boring. Yeah.

I thought it was a new one.

For now. Me, too. I got tricked on that, too.

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I guess you re-spoke, Bri, about the Menendez brothers. That's another thing. Even if you didn't re-speak about it, the comparisons But you did re-speak about it.

Yeah, I said I was clearly projecting, and I never discredited their abuse, but I was obviously projecting, and I apologize for those remarks, of course.

Grace Clarified she didn't take money from Zack, which I think that was a weird jump that I saw that people thought, Yeah, that. How could she take money and not breathe? But she clarified that. This is another thing that just proves what a dickhead this guy is. I saw this. This is twice. This is Charles Wesley Godwin?

Godwin, yeah.

Now, if I'm understanding this, there's twice he's done this with his band members who have released their own music, and then he goes on top of it and releases his own shit at the same exact time, which is just a jerk move.

Can't share the spotlight.

Then he reacted to this one, which is, again, he's paying attention because he started just posting his music. But I saw friends of Zack or somebody in the band basically being like, Yeah, he's a dickhead. There was a video that went viral. I actually saved it. Let me see if I have We know for a fact that your whole band hates you. Let's see if we can pull this up, if I can find who it is. You said you had all the T on that, by the way.

I do, but I think that speaks enough for it. Okay. I think his actions Where is this? Say enough. I don't even have to say it. He proves everything for me.

Where is this? By the way, do you see the black dude with the grill singing the song? Oh, yeah. That got muted. That just got taken down. Howhow? No. How is that a legal offer?

No, it's crazy.

Tiktok just lets Warner Music do whatever they want.

For real?

Yeah, that's Warner Music just covering up for this dude. It's like crazy for money.

All for money. It's a money game. They look so bad. You know who's not in it for the money, though? You know who's not in it for the money? Who? Rumbel. Oh, true. Shout out Rumbel. Shout out Rumbel for keeping it up.

Is the video on Rumbel?

Oh, yeah.

Rumbel will never take it down. Okay. Here is... Look it here. Iluka, I-L-U-K-A. Is this for you? That would be TikTok. Yeah.

Is it the blonde girl?

Yeah, but it's scroll down. Keep scrolling. Her boyfriend's in it sitting on the ground. You sent me the TikTok.

Did they delete it? Oh.

It's another... It says, Wait, another hot Zeeby take from my country boyfriend.

I think she deleted it. They probably got in trouble.

Do you know who this guy is? Can you see my screen? Oh, you can't. No. She's got two. It's basically the story. It's like, he mentioned that there were two band members he's done this to.

Yeah, well, Charles and J. R.

So there you go. So that- J.

R. Which one was he? Jr? Was Is he the guitar guy?

No, that's Noah. Noah. J. R. Plays keys. He's incredible at music. But yeah, I don't know. Obviously, he stands with Zack, so he says enough.

I like that?

Moving along here. So he didn't let you dye your hair?

I couldn't have. He hidden my extensions. I mean, it just goes back to the dress thing where I said I wouldn't do things because I didn't want to upset him.

Got it. This guy thought he was playing a game of Dress to Impress with You or something.

Yeah, it was so great. It was just any time I looked good, I felt like he got insecure and didn't.

It's like...

Yeah, this guy. Yeah, this guy.

Big Valentina. Speak. Just say what you just said to me. J. R.

Carroll is in Zack Brian's band. Yeah. He's releasing a solo album.

It was Zack Brian put out his single the same night that J. R.

Was releasing the debut single from that album. Wait, isn't that so sad? Well, I know. He put out the singles that night to combat the podcast, and then it bit him in the ass.

It didn't work at all. It was hilarious. Who thought The World's Giant was the song to release after we just called him The Smallest Man?

He's trying to be like so manipulative. He's trying to be so manipulative. It's like, yes, I will be in the walls, and I will be the ghost that haunt you forever. Obviously, Obviously, dude, the fuck? I am not great. And imagine I didn't take the money and he put that out, and then it looks like he's the victim. Oh my God.

I saw people saying that.

Of everything. And I'm-Unreal. Oh my God. I would be so infuriated. It would have been so bad.

And that puts almost like his prior NDAs- That's what he does.

He abuses people and then uses it to make music off of them. Sick.

The One of the only real positives that have come out of this is you have become a swifty.

I'd die hard, Dave.

I've been trying to tell you. I've been trying to- I'm I never dated a scumbag, so I didn't get it.

And I was just like, I wasn't listening. I wasn't feeling it. You know when you're just not really understanding? Oh, my God, I'm a diehard swifty. But tickets are $10,000. Can you connect?

Get me Canada tickets. Yeah, we can get you in. We'll get you. Where's she now? Toronto? Toronto. Wait till you see it. And when you see it, you're going to be like, it takes it to a whole fucking new level.

We'll look at- Well, even before this, I watched it a couple of weeks ago. I watched it to give myself... You know how I was talking about my video diaries that I made throughout it to leave? I started listening to Taylor Swift. And if you really paid attention to my social media, there were a lot of cries for help. I was posting So on London on my Instagram story. I've been trying to get hints at this shit. And I watched the Ares tour on HBO or whatever, or Disney Plus, and I was like, I need to go to this concert.

I think we should schedule. We got to figure that out.

We should just go as a group. I actually saw a couple of videos of people being like, They need to all get brought out by Taylor. Taylor needs to bring all of BFFs out to the concert.

That, I don't know if I can put that together.

That's not going to happen, but maybe we could go to a show together.

Do you guys I think Taylor and Travis are sitting down on the couch one day and they're like, You see this diss track?

A hundred %.

I think a hundred %.

Especially because Travis is in the podcast world.

And I'm in the Taylor world. I know Tree There's no way. There's no way. A hundred %.

I've had people hit me up about it that I was like... Just to me, I was like, I would never think that side of social media would... Steve will do it. He was like, Yo, that shit was tough. I would have never expected that Steve will do it.

I'm getting calls all over. That's the one severe miscalculation he definitely made. If you know you're this behavior, and the Bre relationship, knowing what we know now, was always going to probably end similarly to how his past relationships, since it seems like everyone ends like that. But Bre is a public figure, and it wasn't going quietly. I guess he's hoping she take the money.

Yeah. If you've been able to act out in a certain way, it's like a little puppy or a child. If you let your child throw temper tantrums or your dog, you let your dog get away with shit. It's going to think he can continue to do that, right? It's just like this guy's lived a... No one has come in and got him in trouble. He's screaming daddy issues. He's screaming that.

Well, it goes back to How he minimized what I do and you guys, my whole relationship. So he thought, no one's going to care. They're going to talk about me on a podcast. No one's going to give a fuck. They're going to out me. No one's going to care because no one cares about Barstool. Nobody cares about Brianna. It's not important. It just goes to show that he really thought, I don't matter, none of us matter, that what we do doesn't matter.

And again, I can't say this loudly enough. I've already said it multiple times. Warner Music Group, who's ever in his circle protecting him, and no, and maybe not everybody knows, but I've gotten enough DMs and messages that a lot of people know, and they should be fucking ashamed of themselves. They should be ashamed.

You know I'm ashamed. Warner, you should have seen what was going on. You should have seen the stuff that you were protecting and been like, Fuck, we're going to let Smallest Man come out. You know what? We're going to step aside here.

We're going to let Dave. Dave, a lot of that team has seen shit he did to me firsthand, too. Like, firsthand. And I'm not talking like little stuff. First-hand. Because if he could do this stuff that I talk about in front of people, just imagine what it was like behind a fucking closed door. So there's a lot of people that saw shit, and it breaks my heart, and it makes me sick that so many people are just scared of him. Everyone in his life is scared of him, scared to stand up to him. They're all yes men. They all get paid by him. And this is so much bigger than Zack. That is a lot of people, and that's why I share it.

It's just- Well, that's what was so powerful, I think, about it, Bri, is most girls get silenced or put in a position where they feel like they can't speak out or whatever the result is. And they're still not offered any money, or they still don't get $12 million offer, let alone $10,000 offer. So many people feel like they've been forced to be silent. And you being able to say, No, I'm going to talk out about this. Going up against one of the biggest country music in the artist, being in the public eye, having to go through the breakup, like you said, a week before you go and talk about it. You don't even get to deal with the trauma. You don't even get to really comprehend all the stories. There's going to be months that go down the line where you start remembering different stories, remembering stories even different from probably. I got a therapist. It's so brave. I think so many people were able to rally behind it. I think girls across the globe were able to be like, Holy shit, we can do this. We can't stick up for ourselves. You were an example for so many, which was the most powerful thing about it.

That's why I texted you after the show. It was like that to me was what made all of it worth it and made you... You made a decision that was bigger than yourself. You said, I'm going to decline this money and do this.

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Download the Game Time app today. What time is it? Game time. Even if you went on TikTok right after, the clips, they weren't funny clips. They were hundreds and hundreds. I think it got into the thousands of people using your voice voice on very personal moments for themselves. Yeah.

I mean, I've been like tens of thousands of DMs. It's just it's sick how people are treated and how they're forced to feel like it was all their fault. I didn't understand that narcissistic abuse was as prevalent as it was. And I'm really glad I talked about it. Another really important takeaway that I've seen throughout this is men holding themselves accountable and their friends accountable and speaking out about it and believing women. It's been really cool because the girls are always going to show up, always, because they understand. But it's really cool to see guys show up to. And you guys are a big part of that because so many guys look up to you, both. And when they see you guys setting an example and speaking out about it, you guys made a... I know it was fun, the diss track, and you guys hate Zack, but you guys made a really big impact, I think, on how men will view this for a long time. So thank you.

Yeah. And it's not being minimized. Again, people, whenever I'm in this, who is he to say anything? But guys, normal guys, if you're a guy and you don't see this is a major problem. You're probably not a normal guy.

You're not- Yeah, you're on the same boat.

Yeah. If you can't get, Oh, this is fucking crazy what we're talking about here, then you're missing something like It's pretty important. It's not a gray area. It's pretty obvious when you hear the stories.

I see people being like, Well, guys cheat all the time or do anything. Towards the end, when I found out he was cheating the whole time, that was the least hurtful thing about it. That was the normal thing for me to accept. I'm like, Well, yeah, guys suck, and guys do that. So him cheating, that's why I didn't bring any of the cheating stuff up. It's like, that was the easiest thing for me to swallow and to get- Yeah, I'd agree with that, too.

Lots of people cheat, guys. That is not what we're talking about.

That is so much more than that. Yeah.

Also, for the record, everyone's like, Dave's wanted to talk. He's made everyone sign NDAs. That's the craziest thing I've I've never heard. Nobody in my life has ever signed an NDA. I have 19,000 sex tapes out there. Nobody has signed a fucking NDA. Nobody. Yeah, this went for the text the lawyer's country ditty. I'd warn a music group is fucking with that one, too. We can't get that on... It's not on Spotify. They won't put it on Spotify.

That seems illegal.

Austin? We're still waiting to hear back, but yeah, there's no explanation. It's gone up everywhere else. There's no explanation besides.

So beyond Josh Richards, they just are fucking with us. Yeah.

Neither of them. Day's Version didn't go up. Country didn't go up. Day's Version was supposed to go up two days ago. Country was supposed to go up yesterday. The refresh is once a day at midnight. It's just not going up.

Spotify is protecting him, too.

Clearly. It seems that way.

It's not the company you want to keep. It's not the company you want to keep, guys.

And he would always say that to me, Bre, you're the company that you keep. I'm talking about you guys and all my friends. The projection on this, dude. Come on.

It may all stem from the guy. He's really short. You think he's just- Napoleon complex. You're Oh, I'm so short. It's like, Insecurity. How can I get anybody up?

How can I seem big? How do I put everyone lower than me so I seem big for once?

Wow.

That's probably what it is.

So is this true? I didn't…Google changed Bre's cover?

This was so funny. I saw this and it was... It's like Google's clapping back, and it was one of the funniest things ever. They put it as a picture of your Golden Globes dress.

Wait, that's awesome.

Is Is that on purpose? Or is that like an algorithm? It used to never be that. It may be because everyone was searching for it because they talked about it.

That dress, yeah.

But now when you Google it, it's the first picture that comes up.

Well, good.

That's so awesome.

It's so awesome. What is this section? Questions from Austin to the BFF? That was the rolling loud thing I just wanted to bring up to you guys in the pod.

Hey, I mean, I'm in for rolling loud.

Zack can do it. I mean, Zack can do it. Josh can do it.

I can do it.

Dave, you can- I can't perform live. Just lip sync. They tried to get me to do it at an old mess. I don't even know the words. They tried to get me to do it at an old miss.

I know you fucked up. Even when you said it, you said, How lucky is Bre?

You still said the lyrics wrong. I am not a lyrics. I can't. Lierks do not work in my brain.

What if you get a teleprompter?

Yeah, teleprompter. When you go to Taylor Swift, do you sing?

I do, but I get lost quickly.

One of my favorite TikToks out of all of this has been, I sent it to Austin, was people don't understand Dave's autistic, and this is going to be four months of him just absolutely fixated on it.

I am fixated on it. I am.

Oh, it's right there.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'll stay in his ass, but I don't know. It's an interesting one because it's like, he's just such a scumbag, and I don't like people protecting somebody who's a scumbag. He's so big. But to be honest, people can make their choices now. You want to support the guy. You want to go buy his music. You want to go to his concert. Everyone knows the type of guy he is. That's on you now. We have told the world, Job is done, who he is, correct. Yeah.

You do whatever you want with that information.

You do. There's really nothing more exposing, if that's the word. He is who he is. You make a decision on how you want to spend your hard-earned money, your time.

I've never understood it. I do think we should ruin his birthday, though.

What is how? Tell me how.

I don't know. We just have to do something to ruin his birthday.

When's his birthday?

April second.

Yeah, your birthday was ruined.

Fine.

Yeah. We'll just shut up until then.

Pardon me. I have to... His tickets are so expensive. Someone else did it. People are like, You should buy an entire venue.

Yeah, it's 50 cents. Dave, I was saying, How funny would it be?

But how funny How much would that cost? That would cost so much money.

I don't know, but imagine buying out a venue and then just sending in a bunch of people to sing Smallest Man on repeat.

I don't know the amount. Are we talking like tens of millions? How much does that cost?

I don't know. Well, you got to think it's at least... What's the smallest venue he's doing nowadays? 20,000?

Well, all of the tickets-resale market. This is his last tour ever. Resale market. And all the tickets are already sold.

That's bullshit. He's definitely going back on tour.

He's been telling me from the beginning that he's done touring.

Yeah. He told you a lot of things.

Yeah, and he keeps on tour.

Yeah, I guess so. But I think this is going to be such a chip on this guy. He's going to walk around so shameful that I don't think- I could see him doing an apology tour at some point being like, You know what?

Everything Bre said was 100% the truth. I'm going to rehab. I could see that move.

That's why I threw him a bone. I want the guy to get better. I want him to fix himself. But throughout all of this and the way he's reacted to it and not responded and took the high road with this song and World's a Giant, it's very evident he has no plans on changing whatsoever. Lock him away.

Lock him away.

But who knows? There's still hope. I believe in people.

I don't know if I'd even believe it. I could see his crisis management team being like, This is your only move. If you want to rehab your image a little bit. Yeah. I mean, the way he's handling this, the way he's handled everything, the way he's handled everything from posting the break up before you're ready, the truck, the Raya, the posting through it, acting like it's not happening.

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What is Zack Bryant? Cakes. A TikTok has gone viral for saying she understands now why Zack's fan mates threw cake at him so hard for his birthday. This one, the TikTok believes I have autism.

Is what Bre was you're talking about.

Yeah, I don't. I don't think. Future BFF. So, yeah. All right. People were, I guess, confused when we said this last time. I said I was leaving BFF. Bff is continuing with Bri and Josh. And I don't know if you guys want to talk. I think the plan is to change it a little bit. No?

Yeah, it's definitely going to be a new pod.

Yeah, definitely a new feel. I think you're going to see me and Bri in person much more. I think you're going to see a little bit more of a guest atmosphere as well.

I think you guys a little more-A little more personal life involved in it. Luck with guests. We would try to get guests, and I think they were a little afraid of me, even though I think that was always It's not unfair. We didn't reallyI agree.grill people.

No.

No, I think it was just your bluntness towards them that maybe got them afraid. They knew that they couldn't give you a PR-trained answer and that you would be like, Okay, let's to the next question.

I'm also not a fan of you want to guess and like, Well, the guest doesn't want to talk about this. It's like, Well, that's exactly what it is. Then you bring it up. That's all you want to talk about. That's the only thing I want to talk about. We had all these unused track covers I think we picked good ones.

My favorite was the top middle, the Instagram story one.

Yeah, I think that it just had a nice look to it.

It did have a nice look to it. The notification, the Instagram breakup post, that one was theShout out Quix.Shout.

Out Quix.Shout out Quix. Then we have normal headlines. I think we should probably skip for one more week. I think we'll get back on the normal train of things next week. Obviously, this was a crazy, crazy two weeks. Honestly, couldn't be more proud of you, Bri, for the way you handled it. Again, nothing to do with money. That's one thing. It had absolutely nothing to do. Bri, I I haven't talked after about how to handle it because she became so... I don't know what the word. Everybody's talking about it. I didn't want her doing ads for us, really. I didn't want to seem like it had anything to do with money. Me, too.

A lot of people came like, want to work with me and do stuff. A little icky, so nothing to do with money. Dave gave me no money. I mean, if you want to give me 10 mil, that's no problem.

I offered Did you play the truck.

Oh, yeah, you did. Thank you. I found out the truck is in my name, so we would have just been giving it back for no reason and giving him money for no reason.

That's what we thought.

Good. Yeah.

Dave, what has to happen to make Rolling Loud happen? Teleprompter, big screen.I roll. Most of the artists don't even really sing. It's like... Yeah, you got to think about half of them don't even sing the track. It's in Miami.

It's in Miami. Dave Dave, don't dance. Dave, don't sing. Dave goes into track.

You can't have the last time you've been on stage be with Zack Bryant.

Touche.

You know?

Well, you saw how long I stayed on stage for that one. I was like, Get me the fuck out of here.

I know. And after, I was like, Dave, you're supposed to stay up there. I was like, No.

You could just come up for your verse.

It's half the fucking song.

Yeah, two minutes, three minutes.

When is Rolling Loud? Mid-december.

You have time.

Oh, it's soon. You have time.

Next month. I don't know. Will it still be in Vogue then? Clearly, they think so. They're asking you guys to perform it.

Sleep on it.

It's like a little bit of a farewell show.

Yeah.

I feel like Rolling Loud is not a crowd. Not at all.

It's funny.

It's so funny. You guys be rapping it, nobody does it. Nobody knows it.

What if people are mad. They're Isn't like Rolling Loud like no one shit? No, it's rappers.

Rolling Loud is more rap.

Like, future and like all those people are headlining it.

I mean, if nobody knows it, it's still funny.

It would be funny if the real rappers were on stage with us doing it.

Maybe we get someone to... Maybe Lil Yadi, a guest of the pop before. Get Lil Yadi to come out.

Is sexy red part of the lineup?

I'm sure she is.

I'll think about it. I'll sleep on it. When I When I had to get back in the booth, I was going to miss. I was up at 8:00 in the morning. I go back in the booth. I did two songs. I laid down two tracks. Jetski was absolutely in my face. Do it again, do it again, do it again.

Yeah, you put in some work. By the Country Ditty one, though, which I didn't even know was coming out. I heard it an hour before the world heard it. You sound like a new rapper.

This growl. They're telling me to go low. They're like, growl. It's like, All right, fuck it. I'll growl.

It was crazy. I had never heard it. I was like, What?

I was doing it all. I think Country Ditty could go huge if we could get on Spotify. Yeah. Caroline's hook is pretty fucking fire.

The more you listen to it, the catch it. They'll go crazy.

But They want to keep us down.

They do. I mean, they heard Smallest Man, and they were like, This literally is going to win a Grammy if we leave this out. How do we...

It was going crazy.

We can't have them win a Grammy off this. No. That will destroy Zack. So they had to block.

I just wanted to get ahead of on the charts, but they won't let us get on the charts.

You know, though, for a fact, if it was able to have come out, it's passing on charts. There's no question in my mind, by the way.

Well, did you guys see on Spotify? It's so crazy. When you type in Smallest Man or Country Ditty, it promotes all of Zack's songs.

It's so fucking- Yeah, same on YouTube. I got a text about this from people in the music industry that are like, It's clear that Zack's team and Zack, they're paying. They're paying ads to put behind When people look up Smallest Man, they're paying to push that.

They're giving that 12 mil to Spotify. Why don't they fucking donate it to charity?

Seriously.

She's... Auctioning off the Birkin he gave me and donated it. Donating it.

So stay tuned by that. I didn't even know you had a Birkin. Did I know that?

I never used it, but he got me a Birkin.

All right. I talked to Bre and Josh about it. Do we want to just drop the Dropbox of the song in the video in case rappers and DJs or whatever want to play it?

Oh, we should totally do that.

Fuck, yeah. What?

People are wanting to play the Smallest Man at bars and at clubs and stuff, but they can't have it, so we should give it a drop box.

Give it at least the Dropbox of just anyone that wants to take it. Yeah, 100%.

Take it.

Also, we weren't saying money, but get this in your head for all you BFFs, Bre fans, Barstool fans. Usually, Black Friday coming up. What we're going to do for Bre since she did turn... I know she didn't do it, but still 12 Everything you buy from Bre, Black Friday will be Bre. We're going to give her 100% of it. So Bre, you're on the hook to come up with merch. All goes to you. You should be able to not 12 mil, but-Not 12 mil, but something.but something.

Okay, thank you. That's very nice.

That's a good thing to do. That's not why we did it. But all of everything there we'll give to her. We'll get it. All right. That hopefully wraps up this song. And again, Bri, I think we can't even put into words, measure how many people you help. So really proud of you. I know it was a tough decision, but there's no doubt you did the right thing.

Yeah. Thanks, guys.