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911, where is the emergency? It's the middle of the night in a small town on the Jersey Shore. Someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge. A search gets underway for the missing driver, 19-year-old Sarah Stern. Is it a missing person?

Is it a suicide? At this point, nobody knows. Old friendships, buried cash, and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life. I'm Juju Chang. From 2020 and ABC Audio.

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It's a cold night in Evansville, Indiana.

A man says he's headed out to run an errand, but the inside of his vehicle tells tells a much different story. He's got a gun, a police scanner, and photos of his intended target.

It had been a normal day. I had cleaned the house and done a little bit of shopping at Target and then at the neighborhood Walmart. And then I was at home cooking. I was I was making mac and cheese and thick-cut pork chops. Becky Doerr and Robbie Doerr were married.

She stayed at home while he worked multiple jobs to provide for the family. Robbie had just arrived home after working a 12-hour shift at the fire department. I saw him pull up into the driveway. Didn't see his actual truck, just saw the headlights. Within a minute or so after that, I heard 4 or 5 pops.

There were several 911 calls that came in. A lot were from neighbors reporting gunshots. Hi, I don't know what happened, but I heard loud bangs, and then I looked out the door and the people across the street said, call 911. I heard 5 shots going off consecutively. Did you see a car leave the area?

No, we didn't. We just heard the popping. And then Elizabeth Fox-Dorr would be a 911 caller. I'm going to go 911. My husband just got shot.

All I see is blood on the ground. Debbie, what happened? All I saw was my husband's headlights pull into the driveway, and then I heard a bunch of popping. When did this happen, ma'am? Just a few minutes ago.

Is the assailant still there? No, I didn't see anybody. Hey, for that shots fired run, they said it's a gunshot wound to the head. It's a shooting, so it would be a heavy police presence there.

Is this your husband? I'm up here at the intersection of Colorado and Oakley. Get the med kit! He's still got a pulse. Oh my gosh.

I'm starting compressions now. Stay with me, stay with me. Heart's still pumping. As far as who did that to Robbie, all I could think was, what am I gonna do without him? One person was shot and killed here tonight, and police still looking for a suspect.

I got a call there had been a shooting, and so my photographer and I immediately headed there. There's a lot a lot of police officers. Crime scene tape was already up. It was a very hectic scene. I started seeing a lot of firefighters arrive.

You don't usually see that at a shooting. What the— I just realized who it is. Robbie! Robbie! Connect electrodes.

Robbie! Robbie! He's done, dude. Damn it! Oh God, no!

Oh damn it! Once we found out that it was Robbie Doerr, we immediately knew this was a beloved firefighter in this community, that he was a leader within the department. He trained a lot of the rookies. Hey, man, let's go back this way. Come on.

Let's go back. I know, man. I don't want to be rude or disrespectful, but we got to get the fire out of here because that's one of theirs. I was kind of in a haze, like a daze. I was doing the motions.

What I needed to do.

I relied a lot on my oldest son. When I got there, I got stopped by the police, or maybe it was a fireman, I'm not sure, but said I couldn't go down the street. And I was like, what are you talking about? My parents live down here. I have to get to the house.

And I said, my dad's just been shot. It's my dad. I need to get down there. I understand, you're not going through this crime scene. Okay, well then get my mother down here.

Her name is Elizabeth Doar. She said that he died. Dad is dead. The whole house was swarming with police officers and other people that had been notified. It was traumatic.

My mom had 3 children. Me, I'm the youngest, then Dustin, he's the middle child, and Nathan, he's the oldest. Nathan was spam texting me, spam calling me, and he was like, you need to get home and now. Rob's been shot. I was like, is he okay?

He was like, I don't know, Taylor. Get home. Where's my mom? Follow me. Okay.

Let's go. And we walked up to the house. Still everything's being investigated. Is he alive? No, he's not.

Oh my God. The first thing I did was I called out my mom's name and I ran over to her and we just started crying together. Mom.

We got to look at all angles of everything. Where's his daughter? She's probably at home. I don't know if she knew that. The next thing I know, at 7:30 at night, I'm getting a call from Nathan.

And he goes, Lindsay, Dad's gone. And I immediately dash for the house. Is that the daughter?

Lindsay turned into a puddle. I mean, how can you not? She was inconsolable. He was my best friend. All I could think about was I needed to be next to my dad.

Like, my dad was alone on that concrete. I need— he didn't have me. I needed to be with him. Who shot him? I have no idea.

Oh, no, no. I don't want to leave. I can't let you go out there, okay? Why? Because you can't.

They wouldn't even let me out there with him. It's definitely chaos, but it's organized chaos because everybody has a job. Once Robbie was pronounced deceased, the patrolmen had to protect the crime scene. So they had to get everybody out of the scene. I've already told fire very respectfully that they have to stay outside the tape.

When you're dealing with somebody that's a victim of crime, at the worst, a homicide like in this situation, you say, OK, this is what it is. You know, we can't change that. We have to put that out of our minds and just treat it like any other investigation and start doing what we do. We found no shell casings. I want to say very, very little.

The image that stays with me about that night— several fire trucks are lined up and start a procession into town. Later find out that they were escorting Robbie's body to the coroner's office. When little boys dream of or talk about their hero. Sometimes they say Spider-Man. Mine was a true hero.

He was a fireman. He was my dad. He said he doesn't have any enemies. He's amazing. He's like kind of a fighter.

Did Robbie have any enemies? He had at least one.

Are you going to take that down to the stop sign? Well, I feel like we need to set a car up on this side. I've got like 6 rolls in my car if you need them.

Oh God, no, no, no.

Oh God, please no, no. You We're going to walk around the back. They've got some crime scene tape up that we can't go through right now. Once Robbie was pronounced deceased, the detectives that are arriving knew that they had to start talking to people. So the canvas began immediately, knocking on neighbors' doors.

Hi. Did you guys happen to see what happened out here earlier? Sure did. We're sitting here watching TV and just heard noise. Will you guys do me a favor and stay inside until we clear out?

Everybody was working for one goal, to figure out what happened to Robbie. Anybody hear or see anything? All of us were here. We heard the shots, but never— we didn't see the vehicle. We knew something funny had happened.

I was in that— see that camper over there? I was in the garage and I heard 5 shots go off and it scared the shit out of me. I thought it was right outside my door. So you were in the garage and heard 5 shots? Yep.

You hear anything prior to that? No, I sure didn't. See anything suspicious afterward? No. I mean, it scared me so bad I turned all my lights off.

I didn't know if somebody was going around shooting or something. The initial assessment, like moments after the shooting, we were— we didn't have a clue what happened.

The detectives are still working on it, OK? I say, I don't have a whole lot of information I can give you right now. Well, someone must have drove down the street, perhaps maybe had an issue on the road with Robbie on his way home from work, and shot at him. I call it an execution. We checked to see maybe if it was a carjacking.

And then we could see with the video that the detectives located that we ruled out a carjacking.

How could this have happened? Wrong person, wrong time, wrong place. Ran the whole gambit of everything. And for him to be taken out of this world in such a way that it's, it's mind-boggling. Robbie Doar was invincible in Engine 1.

He was in it. He loved the fire department, just getting out there and helping people. For nearly 3 decades, This beloved firefighter worked for everyone but himself. Today is the first day in all those years they've worked without him. I'm sure you've seen the shot we have of Robbie that's really old of him when he had rescued a child from a burning building.

I got this video of this baby being caught on a ladder right now. He's a hero.

28 years he was on the force. That's a lifetime. I mean, his dad was a fireman, so it's like a family tradition.

Firefighters typically have second jobs. He was a manager at Taco John's. He was doing that to just make extra money. I quit my job to go be a general manager at Taco John's, and that's how I met Rob. I think the first thing he ever said to me was, hey, pretty lady.

I miss that. He had always loved my mom. I do remember Robbie coming to me saying, "Would it be okay if I went on a date with your mom? I know I've just kind of been the friend, but I want to be more than the friend." And I was like, "That's completely okay with me." And he was elated. You could see him skipping through my store.

Oh, I knew he loved Becky. There was no doubt in my mind. He was 110% in.

Our wedding was in Panama City Beach, Florida. Actually, it had rained every day when we first got there, and as soon as I started to walk down the sand, it stopped raining. So it was very, very pretty.

I was over the moon to have Robert as my dad. He stepped in to be a parent. My hero became my dad. Finally, I have this hero that I can call my dad. They were married for about 6 months.

So very quick relationship, marriage, death.

Before Rob and I were married, I had been married 5 times. I think that she wanted to have that picture-perfect life, the husband, the children, but just couldn't find it.

Rob was going to be the person that gave my mom a consistent life because my mom was born into adversity. Then she was put into a foster home that didn't have adequate resources to take care of her. She never really had a break until she was ultimately adopted. I was 4. My sister Mandy was 2.

My bond with Mandy— we were the 2 troublemakers of the house. What was it like growing up with Becky? She was my big sister. She was a good sister. We played, traded stickers, we jumped on the trampoline.

Swam. Got in trouble. She was the sister that comforted me. For 47 years, she was everything good and pure and wonderful. Like, my mom was trying to be like Jude Cleaver.

Perfect stay-at-home wife. But my mom and Robbie, their relationship, it had problems. He started to question things. It seemed normal to you? It seemed good?

It was fine until it wasn't.

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Oh yeah, yeah, Robbie and I were, you know, best friends for 34 years, and thick, thin, didn't make any difference. We were always there for each other. We've made a lot of, a lot of runs together, several fires. Robbie gave 110% on every run he ever made. Doerr was shot to death outside his Oakley Street home last week.

The investigation into his murder continues.

Shortly after the murder, police began searching Robbie's home. In the home, they find something of interest there. There was a note from Robbie written to Elizabeth, and it talked about there being some problems in the marriage, perhaps someone else that Elizabeth had been talking to, alleged infidelity.

My dad seemed very happy at first, but then things He started to question things. He started to feel insecure. He started to think she was cheating on him. He was like, she always deletes her text messages. Like, she never lets me see her phone.

Robbie had trust issues when it came to that because it had happened to him previously. I tried to make him feel reassured. I would tell him every time somebody would call me. There were times that my oldest son would call me and He couldn't believe, oh, you're on the phone with him again. And he just didn't understand.

My mother did confide to me about their relationship, sometimes a little too much with too much information. But on that same aspect, so did Dad. Dad asked me to be his confidant. The financial aspect of things created some strain. Created some problems between the two of them.

As soon as they got home from Florida, he— she had a brand new car, and then they got a brand new sectional. They had to buy a washer. He had a credit card out at Home Depot. He had a credit card out on the ring. He was borrowed as far as he could borrow.

Money got real tight. She wasn't working. He was. Our biggest disagreement was he wanted me to quit working. Because when he's off, that was our time to be together, and that's what he wanted.

And I wanted to work. But as far as major trouble brewing, no. We were still learning each other.

You think Robbie was trying to make Becky's life better? I do. I do.

Rob wanted my relationship with my sister Mandy to be stronger. So that was, that was what we were trying to do by getting together with them. When we started going out with them, I was kind of excited about it. I would be off with Mandy and he would be off with Larry.

How did you meet your fiancé, Larry Richmond? I met him at work. I was working at the Dollar General. He made sure his hand touched mine, and I thought, golly, this one's bold. So we just, we started talking, and a couple months later, he called one night and said, do you want me to bring my stuff to your house?

We were together from that time on. He pulled up in his car with all of his clothes and said he was moving in, and she was thrilled beans about it. He was very, very tall. I think he was 6-foot-something. He has a nice smile.

I will say that he was the most handsome out of the men that I've seen her date. Larry was always really gentle with my mom. Like, he was always, like, getting her things. Like, he was always doing things for her. I don't think I've ever seen her happier.

I just— just always felt loved. I came home one day, and he had gone to the Goodwill and just laid out a bunch of dresses on the bed. I was like, "Oh," you know? He didn't even know what size I wore, but he was able to pick them out. Everything fit.

I felt fancy. He was really close to his family. Larry Richmond Sr. is very proud of his son, Larry Richmond Jr. They were two peas in a pod. So you bring him to Thanksgiving, introduce him to your family, but you don't tell them about his past.

No. Why not? It felt like a mean thing to do to him. That's not how I wanted everybody to see him. That's not who he was to me.

That's not who he was trying to be. Larry had his history. He told me when he was 17 years old, he accidentally killed a man and did 20 years for it. Well, he actually pled guilty to knowingly killing a person. How did he explain it?

He said he was trying to get the guy to show him his ID. Because he believed that the guy had done something inappropriate to one of his friend's brothers. And he said that in the process of trying to see the guy's ID, the gun went off.

At first I was like, oh, that's not great. But then slowly, like, I mean, my mom convinced us. She was like, he's a changed man. It was an accident. You know, he's a great guy, which he was.

From our perspective, he was a great guy. So yeah, after a while, I just kind of like push it to the side, I guess.

Does Mandy fall in love easy? I would probably say, yeah, she falls in love very easily. I do too. My mom's life had just turned around, that it was going to be, you know, wonderful. Things are great.

And then all of a sudden your world comes crashing down.

The Evansville Police Department have not identified any suspects. As far as lists of people that want to hurt Robbie Doar, we couldn't find a single one. It's not until we're at the autopsy when we discover something, something odd. That is a whole heck of a lot of coincidences.

This has been one of the biggest stories I've covered in my career. Anytime a first responder is hurt, let alone murdered, I mean, that is a big deal, especially here in the Evansville area. We regard our first responders very highly around here. And this, from the very beginning, the community was invested in this story.

So that night on Oakley, we did not find any shell casings. We found in the road a fired projectile that had damage to it. That's not a casing. That's an actual round. That's a round, yeah.

It's not until the next day when we discover something, something odd. And it really started with the autopsy. Had a great forensic pathologist that did the autopsy. When they pulled ammunition from Robbie's body, there was a mixture. There were jacketed projectiles, there was ball projectiles, and there was plastic wadding.

One of our firearms experts said, well, you're probably looking at a Taurus Judge that fires different types of ammunition in one gun. You could shoot a projectile, or you could shoot a shotgun shell, and it all came from the same firearm. A Taurus Judge was referred to us as a hand cannon. Robbie was shot with a very unique gun. That kind of got us off and running, really.

Okay, you basically start a war room. You, you have a big whiteboard, and you put your victim in the middle of that. And then you put a picture of his wife and draw an arrow next to her, victim's wife, child, best friend, and then you just start building that out. And then you want to look at that board the most and say, okay, who started on the outside but is maybe moving more towards your victim? We discovered that a Taurus Judge was stolen, actively stolen, from a pawn shop nearby.

Called River City Pawn Shop. This company, River City Pawn, played a pretty big role in this investigation because Larry Richmond Jr. worked there and had access to many firearms. He's a young man with no criminal record. So we go back, printed out Larry Richmond Jr., put him on our whiteboard. We came across a picture that had a Taurus Judge in his lap, and he just sent it to other friends just showing off the gun that he stole in September of 2018.

The connection with Larry Richmond Sr. was that he had a direct connection with Jr. When we put Larry Sr. in the system, Detective McCormick ran a criminal history on him and found out, oh my gosh, he's on probation for murder. I know it's supposed to make me scared of him. I know it's supposed to make me hate him. I know what it's supposed to do.

But it, it doesn't. He was never scary to me. He was my protector. Mandy was in the middle. She was in a romantic relationship living together with Larry Richman Sr. And she was the sister of Elizabeth Fox Doerr.

And they all lived relatively close to one another.

Well, Mandy is my sister. She is 3 years younger than me. Her personality is she's very outgoing. She is— I don't mean it disrespectful, but she's, she's ditzy. Very ditzy.

Very, you know, I don't think a whole lot bothers her. She's a good person.

The funeral was, was massive.

There were fire stations from all around who came to pay their respect. There was such a community interest that we even livestreamed the funeral on our website for people to watch because not everybody even could get in. The funeral was hard.

I will never forget the bells. I will never forget all of the speeches that were said. His legacy of integrity is what the foundation of the fire department is built upon. I can't listen to bagpipes anymore. I can't.

I just can't listen to them. The moment that they handed me his helmet I lost it. I cried a lot through it. All I could think was, I shouldn't be doing this.

I shouldn't have to go through this right now.

I've seen a few times when, you know, a firefighter or a police officer passes, they get the fire truck out and they get the American flag. And so we went, we went under that and I mean, it was, it was a beautiful ceremony. It really was. Rest easy, brother. We'll take it from here.

We knew as soon as the funeral was over, it was time to get this investigation going, and the decision was made collectively to bring in several folks.

Things took a massive turn. And, um, there's cops everywhere, dogs barking, and it was awful. You had Mandy was in a room, Larry Richmond Jr., Larry Richmond Sr., and then we had Elizabeth Fox-Dorr.

I thought he was cheating on me. Okay, I can tell you he was. We looked at the situation what we had there. I did make the comment at one time, this show is almost geared for Jerry Springer.

Hands on your head! Walk backwards! Just hold it right back and around.

Here, I'll go. You're going to leave your hand. Yes, sir. Put your hands behind your back. There's kids in there, huh?

We decided to pull over Larry and Mandy as soon as the funeral was over. What's going on here, man? I'll tell you in a little bit. You got weapons or anything on you? Knives or anything?

I don't. Okay. What's your name, sir? Larry. What's that?

Larry. Larry, what? Okay. I think I just went completely numb. Like, what is happening?

All right, they're in custody. I personally was assigned to Larry Richmond Sr. Well, Larry, while we've got everybody, it's not just you down here. Obviously, we're looking into the Robert Doar situation. He was gunned down in his driveway. What's that got to do with me?

Well, it has to do with everybody in the family. We just want to— we're trying to get everybody in here and trying to see if there's just anything that can help us with this investigation. So do you wish to talk to me without a lawyer present? I have no problem answering any of your questions. I'll cooperate fully.

Okay. Due to my past, I have been incarcerated. I'm on probation. I don't need any problems. Sure, no, I understand.

If I'm not under arrest, please get a hold of him. I will come back down here and fully cooperate. No problems at all. All we're trying to do is find out if you guys know anything that could help us find his killer. I don't know nothing.

Uh, we go out with him, we go out and drink. Outside of that there, I don't know nothing. They brought us I was down there, and immediately I realized it's like I am awful close to whatever the crap is happening.

We're going to explain it. We'll get to all that. It'll be okay. Whatever you're— whatever's going on in your mind, I can guarantee you it's not— it's nothing. It's not a big deal at all, okay?

Where were you at when Robbie was murdered? Do you remember?

When? I don't know exactly when it was. Can you tell me when it was? It was Tuesday, last Tuesday.

Around 7:00. You're home? Okay. Bring him along. Are your kids there?

Larry there? Yeah, we were all there. Investigators asked her where Larry was at the night of the murder. She reported that he was with her the entire night. Hey, Mandy, do you know something that we don't?

I killed him in the Twilight Zone. This is what you watch on TV.

This is— this you watch this happen to people on TV, not to your family. I think Mandy really believes in this man and believes that he can better himself. I need it. It's sometimes our benefit to grab all individuals that are involved in a case at the same time. Agent Bill Gray picked up Larry Richmond Jr. up from the pawn shop when he got off work that night and brought him downtown.

I had some questions for Larry Jr. as far as stealing the firearm and giving it to his dad. We have two more people down here now involved in this case, and one is your dad. Okay. And things aren't looking so good here. Okay.

What do you know about this gun? It came up missing the day of, or a couple of days before I started at the pawn shop. That's not true.

I've talked to the regional manager, I've talked to the ATF guys. That's not exactly the way it's going down. The gun came up missing while you were an employee. Yeah, while— yeah, yeah, I was sitting in in the pawn shop, and then somebody came up and said there was a gun outside, and then we called it in. Larry Richmond Jr., he lies that he didn't know about the gun, he didn't steal the gun.

I got some bad news for you, son. I think you're heading down the same path your dad's heading. I don't think things are going to work out too well here. So hang tight a couple of minutes. And to my knowledge, I don't believe that Elizabeth knew that the others were in custody.

After the funeral was over, Detective Keene and Detective Hands came and asked me. They said that they had a phone of mine and they had the key to my house. They would like to ask a few more questions. Detective Keene ran the first whole part of the interview going back over what they talked about that night. Confirming everything she said.

Okay, so you get home in the pork chops and get those ready. They actually— I just had the oven preheating and I was getting ready to, you know, get the macaroni, get the mac and cheese. I was getting it out of the cabinet and I saw the truck lights come into the driveway. And then I heard these popping noises. Then I looked out the door.

I saw Rob at the end of the driveway, shoved the dog back, closed the door, and went running down the driveway. We felt that she was hiding something. And then when I showed her the raw data from her phone download— Do we know who this number is right here?

I don't recognize it. They were showing me phone numbers, but there was no name to a phone number. And I kept telling them, I don't know. That phone number. Leading up to Elizabeth's interview, we had gathered cell phone records, actual cell phone device records, and we knew there was a deleted phone call right before the 911 call.

But you can't delete it off the company records, and this is the company records. This is straight from Sprint. I, I understand. Okay. I don't recall talking to someone like 5 minutes before Rob was killed.

I knew I knew that was a lie. So then you just kind of go, okay, why is she lying then? I've been honest with you from the get-go. That's all I ask of you is your honesty. Okay, I understand that.

I don't recall talking to someone like 5 minutes before Rob was killed. I don't. You were able to tell us down to the cents how much you paid for your pork chops earlier that day at Walmart, but you can't remember who you had a phone call with just prior to your husband getting executed in your driveway. Just didn't ring right to me at all. Let me finish.

Cannot change what happened, but you can change it from how it goes on here now by telling the truth. Do you understand what I'm saying? I do. Okay, so take a deep breath and tell us who you talked to 5 minutes before your husband was killed in your driveway, getting out of his truck in the back of the head.

We're asking you questions. We know the answers to, Becky.

This is the Evansville Police Department adult interview suite. We have 4 interview rooms available to us. Throughout our time interviewing these subjects, we were determined that we were being lied to. There were inconsistencies in stories. And it took a good long while to start getting things sorted out where we had a good idea of what was happening.

When you're in the interview room and they're lying, you try to never take police work personal. I honestly did not recognize the phone number. Okay. You just have to keep confronting them with the facts, and you just slowly work through the case. Just let it out.

Just tell us the truth. You didn't orchestrate it? Then what happened? What's your— Okay, then you didn't orchestrate it. I didn't know it was going to happen.

Tell us the truth. And the questioning was, had you ever deleted anything off your phone? And when she says no, the information I had in my file folder at the time, I knew that was a lie. Nothing in that conversation had anything to do with hurting anybody. Why delete it then?

Because I typically delete. I deleted the phone call. I delete my phone calls every time I get off the phone with somebody. Unless I talk to you regularly. She deletes absolutely everything.

And I know for a fact, if I were to send her, you know, I love you, Mom, she would keep that and she would delete everything else. She will send a text message and then she will delete it. I don't know why. If you look at the timeline of the deleted phone call, just minutes before Robbie's killed and the 911 call is made. So that's a big deal.

So who did you talk to 5 minutes before your husband was gunned down in the driveway? Becky, we know the answer. So you can let us do the talking for you, or you can do the talking for yourself. And please tell the truth. So who was it?

My sister's fiancé. Elizabeth had deleted all of Larry Richmond Sr.'s phone calls in her phone. You knew. Not only did you know you talked to him that night, you knew you deleted it. And then you knew I was going to ask you about it when we came back in here.

It's human behavior to try to protect yourself, or like, oh my gosh, I'm into this, how am I gonna get out of it? Maybe if I just stick with these lies. I didn't want you to think that I was having an affair with him because I have not had an affair. The way the interview went with Becky Foxdour, was it a perfect interview? No, because we didn't get her to truly confess.

I think it was the next best thing. I didn't want to say that I had talked to him because that makes it— makes it look like I did it. She was denying the phone call, admitted she denied it. She knew she deleted the phone call. She hid it from us.

New developments tonight in the murder of a firefighter in Indiana. Robbie Doerr's wife tonight is in jail for deleting a phone call she allegedly received before calling 911. That moment was A moment of could she, would she, why would she? It was a whole gamut of emotion. Elizabeth was originally charged with the obstruction of justice.

She soon was out on bond.

Larry Jr., listen up, David. Larry Jr. was walking a fine line. Between going to prison for a very long time and not. And it wasn't until much later in the same evening that he knocked on the door and said, hey, I need to, I need to talk to investigators again because I need to tell them something. He tells investigators, my dad has guns at Mandy's house.

My dad said if anything was to go down, he would bury the gun. It is said that Larry Richmond Sr. had buried a tote full of guns in the backyard of Mandy's house where he was living at the time. He's even caught on video doing this. The detectives came across a surveillance system from the house just directly to Mandy's, Larry's fiancée's house. It shows Larry coming out of the house in the evening with his box under his arm and grabbing some type of utensil.

And going behind the garage and then coming back empty-handed.

One morning I wake up, I'm sitting in the living room, and all of a sudden there are police cars everywhere. That whole block, this whole block of Sheffield was full of police cars. And I'm like, get up here, see what's going on. And they searched the whole grounds, and when they got to that fire pit, they started digging. And they almost dug every square inch back here.

I mean, they dug everywhere. I'm over the fence, and I said, "What's going on?" He says, "Well, we're hunting for stuff." And then I saw some guns in the other policeman's hand. I said, "Oh, that's what you're looking for." And he goes, "Yeah, we found some guns." several where the fire pit was. That box was taken to headquarters, and you could have heard a pin drop. They did it right.

Our crime scene detective came in and then slowly started processing that box. And we're all like, please take out a Taurus Judge or Taurus Judge ammunition. I remember being in the newsroom that day and hearing on the scanner that police were at the home and they had found some guns, but not the murder weapon. The murder weapon in Robbie Doerr's murder has never been found. So at this point, police still do not have a murder weapon.

They have not named a suspect. So we're wondering, what is their next step? I found something that raised the pinnacle of all flags. I mean, I can't even call it a red flag. It's like the sirens going off.

There was a handwritten message that said, we need to talk.

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He was my best friend. He was the person I called when I was having a bad day. He was the person I called if I had a flat tire on the side of the road. If I just needed to talk, it was him. When my dad passed away, we were not in a great place.

Me not liking Becky put a very big strain on our relationship. I wish he would have saw it. I wish he would have listened to me when he said he was going too fast. It's A lot of "I wish." When my mother was arrested, I was like, "No, they have the wrong person. This can't be.

This is the woman who's helped raise me." No one ever thinks of their parent to be that person.

The puzzle pieces kind of started to fall into place after the funeral. I was going through the condolence cards. And I came across one that was from my Aunt Mandy. I didn't quite know what to think of it at first, but it was that guttural instinct that said, this is not right. Like I said, my name is Anthony.

I need to get a hold of someone, and I didn't have anyone to get a hold of except for one detective. I was going through condolence cards, okay, and I found a card from Larry Richmond and my Aunt Amanda. And there's a little slip of paper, like notebook paper, that said, "We need to talk," with his phone number and Larry. It looks like he had written it on the corner of like a notebook piece of paper and ripped it out. And it's more kind of the last second, last second thing.

It wasn't written in the card. I think it was put in after like Mandy and him signed it. Okay. Because he's the one that presented it to my mother. He held He gripped that thing all the way up until it passed into my mother's hand.

I don't know why he was trying to reach out that way. It doesn't make sense to me. He was standing right there when he handed it to us, so he could have just said what he needed to say right then. Okay, I'll be back in just a minute. Okay.

That day they asked me if I knew that he had had criminal history, and I said no, and they told me everything that he had done. That's kind of odd that we have a murder, 20-year sentence, he's out for a year and a half, and then another murder happens. Nobody knew that he had a criminal past. At Thanksgiving, my Aunt Mandy brought a convicted felon to a Christian household and had dinner with everybody and didn't tell a single person that he had just gotten out of prison for murder.

On that piece of paper was a phone that Larry Richmond Sr. was in possession of at the time of his arrest. He got that phone from a person named Laura Riggle. During our investigation, we did talk to Laura Riggle. We kind of— we would like to know more about the nature of yours and Larry's relationship. Larry and I got together got to know each other more, I should say.

I mean, it was in December before Christmas we started talking, and then we actually started seeing each other in January. You said seeing each other, you mean like going on dates and stuff like that? Okay. And I do know he lives with Mandy. She does not know.

So what was gonna— what was gonna happen between him and me? They were breaking up.

Through the course of our investigation, there were several women who were romantically involved with Larry Richman Sr. around the time of the murder in February of 2019. What about him? Is that the one that he messes with? I didn't know about the others. What motive do you think that he could have for doing something like that, if he did it?

I can't imagine him doing it. There is no motive. The first night that we had contact with Mandy, she was a mess. I don't know. I'm not a troublemaker.

No, no. And then the next time, we had kind of built a little bit of a rapport with her. So let's go back further to the day that Robbie gets killed. To your best recollection, where's Larry?

Mandy, why did you tell investigators that Larry was with you at home that night? Larry there? Yeah, we were all there. You were all there? Kids, Larry.

Mm-hmm. Because he was with me all the time. He was there every night. I didn't know what night they were talking about. The night of the shooting.

But I didn't know what night that was. That's what they were talking about. I thought they meant, did he come home that night? Yes, he came home that night. I knew this was bad.

But my first inclination wasn't, oh, what'd you do? So they reveal— they tell you a lot of what's going on. They reveal some things to you. Oh, yes. I thought he was cheating on me.

Okay. I can tell you he was with a lot of women. And we've had— one just walked out of here, and we had one in here last night. Okay. So you're not the only one in this trick bag.

So you had another life going on? Yeah. Girlfriends. Plural. Yeah.

You don't think he was using you? No. For what? For what? I'm a train wreck.

I got this heart. About all I have to offer. Okay. Do you have any other suspicions that Larry and your sister had anything going on?

Okay. Your sister is in custody for deleting a phone call that was very important, and there's a 5-minute phone call right before Robbie's murder. I mean, minutes before Robbie's murder. And guess who that came from?

Larry.

What do you think is going on between Larry and your sister? I thought we went out with him 3 times. That's what I thought. Were your sister Becky and Larry having an affair? That is the word.

After the murder, Amanda Fillmore was never a suspect, and police found her to be telling the truth. Mandy was never charged with anything in this case. Mandy was deeply in love with Larry Richmond Sr. In her mind, that Larry had nothing to do with this. Looking back, it was It was very apparent my mom had something to do with it.

When one of your first questions is, after your husband dies, "What about his pension?" I called her in a fit of anger, a murderin'.

It was strange being in the house by myself. I'm in Rob's house, who is no longer alive, and my mother is in question now for his murder. I felt terrible about even just being in his house. Why am I in his house and he's not? It's our top story tonight.

Charges have been dropped against the wife of a murdered Evansville firefighter 7 months after they were filed. Elizabeth Fox-Dorr was charged with obstruction of justice. My mother did finally get released from jail. She lived with me. She and I had some very tense conversations.

Like, why do they believe that you did this? I don't know, Nathan. Well, why would they ever? Nathan, I don't know.

The night of, she talked to me about his pension. Will I get any of it? How do I get a hold of it?

The day after the murder, we were told by a spouse of a firefighter she had showed up at the firehouse asking about his pension. Yes, I did ask about the pension after he was killed. Was killed, because I had so many people asking me about his pension and his life insurance. That's why I went where I thought that I could find those answers. The fact that she was there the next day inquiring about a pension, that was definitely on our radar.

Larry Richmond Jr. told us a lot about Larry Sr. I'm gonna give you the I want you to tell me anything that you left out from the other night. Do you think your dad's involved in the murder of Robbie? I hope not. As far as Junior, it all didn't come out at one time.

We didn't know about the affair until later. Has he ever talked about Becky before? He said one time that they went out to Pistons and, like, I guess Becky was drunk and and like the firefighter dude was there too and they was just dancing and doing all this and Becky kept looking at him. He said she was cute and fine. Dog, that's your little sister.

What the fuck are you doing? I was like, did you fuck Becky? He was like, no. And then I asked him again. He was like, man, I had to.

Yeah. I was like, dog, you are down bad. And Evansville father and son are facing federal weapons charges. Junior did something terrible by stealing a gun, but he did take responsibility for it and eventually pleaded guilty. He didn't have any part in the murder.

Larry Senior was convicted for possession of a handgun by a felon and having obliterated serial numbers. He was in custody, so we just kind of say, hey, let's slow everything down. He's not a threat to society.

I thought it would be a simple, speedy process. And here we are, 1 year later.

The police, it didn't feel like they were making headway on what happened. And that's when my anger started to really set in.

My mother got another boyfriend very quickly, and then she very quickly after that, almost like the next day, got another boyfriend. I have had several strong words about my mother in private, talking with a therapist, with police. Hey, Pat. She's engaged again. Engaged again?

Yes. And like we just discussed, it hasn't even been a year. Correct. She had like 2 boyfriends before this gentleman. My oldest son Nathan misunderstood the situation.

I was not engaged to a man after Rob died. I did have somebody ask me to marry them, but I told them that I didn't think that I would ever get married again. Mom, what's that on your hand? She goes, oh, nothing. I called her, in a fit of anger, a murdering bitch.

To her face? I said it to her face.

I believe it was a year into the case, lead investigator Blake Keene did a press conference. It's the person of interest in this case. He identified Larry Richmond Sr. as a person of interest. 41-Year-old Enzo resident Larry Holly Richmond Sr. Richmond Sr. had a relationship with the Doerr family at the time Robert was executed. We were pleading for the public to, if they knew any information, to call in.

There was the news conference, and then we didn't hear much at all after that. I'm glad they have a person of interest, but I, you know, where do we go from here? Here.

There's been a big development in this case. An inmate who was locked up with Larry Sr. told investigators that Larry Sr. confessed to killing Robbie. Muhammad reached out to the Evansville Police Department. He reported that Sr. and him had confided in each other. They were bunkmates.

This is Detective Keene and Detective Lewis. It is August 25th, around 16:43 hours. Here with Muhammad. Who are you talking about? Larry, the Ollie Richmond.

Ollie Richmond? Yeah. Okay. He mentioned he killed a firefighter in Evansville, Indiana. He said he shot around in front of his house at nighttime.

He had a feud with him. He said if they kill him, if they get rid of Robert, he said a lot of beneficiaries will be like him.

It appeared that the information from Muhammad was somewhat accurate according to our theory of the case. There was information that was not shared publicly that was known in what he had reported. Reported. How is this cell person supposed to know that we're having an affair? Did he witness it, or are we just grasping at straws?

I never had an affair with Larry Richmond Sr. Never. There was nothing between us. Shortly after Larry Richmond Sr. is named a person of interest in this case, investigators want to get a hold of his cell phone to see if it could hold any clues. Our hypothesis is that Larry Richmond Sr. had his phone on him and that the location data can put him at the scene of the crime at 7:05 PM. Unfortunately, we didn't have that information.

Larry Richmond Sr. did not want to provide a passcode to the phone. There was frustration. The family was frustrated. We were frustrated. We felt like we were close and you just needed this one big break to really put push this case forward.

Rob was a firefighter. It's not the kind of case that, that just goes cold. Everybody wants an answer. It was very trying. It's frustrating.

It's heartbreaking. It feels like an eternity. When Larry Richmond Sr. was taken into custody on March March 4th, 2019. What's going on? I'll let somebody else tell you that.

We seized 2 phones from him. We got search warrants for those phones, but what ultimately slowed us down was we didn't have a passcode for Larry's iPhone. I'm John Carter. I'm a criminal investigator with the High-Tech Crime Unit out of the Vanderburgh County Prosecutor's Office. The equipment that the Evansville Police Department had at time, you had to have a passcode in order to get the information from the phone, which is where we took over with our new tools and techniques to acquire that passcode.

The computer system just runs an algorithm of passwords, and we have no say in how long that is. Those algorithms can take seconds. We've had phones that have taken up to 2 years. I believe in this particular this particular case, it was anywhere between 6 to 8 months. I remember that day well, that John called me and said, hey, we got into Larry Sr.'s phone.

We have the content. Utilizing the digital evidence that we discovered from his phone, we were able to build a bigger picture of what had occurred that night. In the 6 o'clock hour, Larry Richmond Sr. Senior's phone is all within that area of the Doerr residence, as if he's just slithering, snaking around. There's foot traffic, and then eventually in the alley from 6:31 to 6:39. This guy is able to be in the alley at the exact time a fireman comes home.

Shortly after, he's talking to Elizabeth on the phone at 6:46 to 6:51. In the interview with Becky Foxdore, we got her to admit that, yes, I told him he would be home shortly. We don't know where Larry's location was between 6:52 and 7:14 because his phone is powered off. It's not until you actually came to this alley and saw it with your own eyes you can really understand now, where he was.

This is the path that Robbie took the last moments of his life. He would have turned north here on Oakley to get to his house. This was not a normal time for Robbie to be coming home. He was picking up a shift for someone else, which was also important because it meant he came home at night. Normally his shift would dictate that he would work and come home in the morning.

And there was only one person that would know that Robbie's on his way home or what time he's expected home, and that's Elizabeth.

As far as her cooking that night and preparing dinner for Robbie, in my personal opinion, Robbie Doar was never gonna eat those pork chops that night. I, I truly believe that this timeline was set up. Fact is this. She's at home, she's making dinner. There's someone waiting, Larry, with a gun.

My dad pulls into a driveway and he literally, quite literally runs out of his shoes to get away.

To get away. I don't think his door was even shut before shots started going off. I don't know how to explain Larry Sr., the evidence, digital, of him being around the house. I don't, I don't know how to explain that. I do know that his, his mother lives very close by, like, I think a street over.

All I know is I did not know he was around the house. I think that she 100% knows what happened on that conversation with Larry. 911. Yeah, yeah, I just heard shots fired. First Avenue, Colorado.

It's the alley behind. How many did you hear? 5. The night that Rob got murdered, Larry said he was going to go to his mom's house and move some furniture. Long story short, I get there.

He's not there. He's gone to run an errand for his mother. We had a residence here that heard the shooting. They heard all 5 shots and stepped out onto their front porch and watched a subject sprint from one side of the street to the other and disappearing between homes and businesses.

At 7:11 PM, video surveillance shows that he's arrived at Circle K, and he powers his phone back up while he's at Circle K at 7:14 PM. And once we reviewed that video surveillance, we noticed, you know, it's February, it's cold, and Larry is only wearing some shoes, some jeans, and a sleeveless t-shirt. We thought that was a little odd, but, you know, it seemed to us that Larry didn't have a care in the world. We never stop on cases, and especially on a murder case.

We had to take all of the different pieces, provide what our theory was, essentially, and then allow a jury to decide. A short while ago, Larry Richmond Sr. and Elizabeth Foxdore were charged with the murder of Robbie. When they finally told me they were going to charge both of them with murder, I was like, well, all right, let's go. We've got this. Absolutely led our news that night.

Fox Dorrell is charged with murder alongside Larry Richmond Sr. I didn't do it. That is the truth. I didn't do it. If you're asking me if I shot and killed Robbie Dorrell, no, I did not.

Your son says you smashed that shit. Talking about Becky? Never. Come on. Never.

Never happened. Never happened. I was very surprised to be charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder. I was shocked.

They don't want you to listen to the truth. I felt like I just listened to a screenplay of a crime novel that was based entirely on fiction.

Elizabeth Foxdore is charged with murder and conspiring with Larry Richman to commit that murder. Her trial is scheduled to be heard first. She's pleaded not guilty. If she's convicted, she could face up to life in prison.

My name is Mark Phillips, and I am lead counsel in the trial involving our client, Becky Foxdore. My name is Rob Phillips, and I'm the co-counsel in the case of Becky Foxdour. You have heard supposition that there was a conversation between Larry and Becky about a murder, and that's not true. I'm Diana Merce. I'm the Vanderburgh County prosecutor.

This was the first murder case that I took on as the elected prosecutor, so the pressure was on. I didn't intend for any of this to happen. This is what the defendant told detectives who were questioning her that night about the death of her husband. Becky Foxdorth was the co-conspirator, not the shooter. And so in a conspiracy case, you have to prove a meeting of the minds.

And, you know, you're doing that with circumstantial evidence. They have a phone conversation around the time of the murder. It lasts for 4 minutes and 18 seconds, and then he turns his phone off. His phone's completely black with no data at all.

12:00 PM, Larry Richmond Sr. pulls up in a Ford Taurus and soon after enters the store and then leaves. Just 15 minutes before Robbie Doar was ambushed and killed, the defendant spoke with Larry Richmond Sr. on the phone. As soon as the defendant was finished talking, she deleted that phone call.

The only thing that she did was not remember deletion of a call and that that somehow morphed into this conspiracy theory. By that time, did you delete Larry's phone number? It is a habit for me to delete phone calls because Larry's not a person I normally talk to, so I delete it. It's ridiculous that it, it's about a phone call that I took and I deleted. The defense says there's no evidence suggesting their client planned the killing, and today they tried to hammer that point home by grilling the original detective in the case.

There was a phone conversation that you asked Becky about at some point, correct? Correct. And, and you allege it's with Larry Richmond Sr., right? It is, yes. Is that correct?

Yes. Okay. Yes. You have no idea what they talked about, do you? No.

And, and you know who initiated that call, don't you? He did. In fact, in your investigation, you don't have any evidence that Becky Durr ever initiated a phone conversation of any kind with Larry Richmond Sr., correct? Correct. Foxdor and Richmond Sr. may have been romantically involved.

She has photos with him, she spent holidays with him, and they even went on a double date with her sister and Robbie Dor.

There was a dramatic moment at the end of the day today. The son of co-defendant Larry Richmond Sr., he took the stand Larry Jr. was a good witness. He didn't want his father bringing him down. And he knew if he didn't tell the truth that it would. Do you know the defendant in this case, Elizabeth Foxtor?

Have you ever met her? Yes. She got in the vehicle and that's the first time you saw her? Mm-hmm. And did anything happen before she got out of the car?

They kissed. They kissed? Mm-hmm. And was it a mutual kiss or could you tell? Yes, they both leaned in.

I did not have an affair with him. I had no relationship with him. His relationship was with my sister. Larry Richmond Jr. took the stand and told a story about seeing his father kiss Becky behind Robbie Doar's home in approximately March of 2018. And if there's evidence in this trial that she didn't even live there in March of 2018, 18.

That put a dent in your story, wouldn't it? Yes. You didn't know who she was before your dad got out of prison, correct? I may have my time dates mixed up. Is that your sworn testimony here today?

Yes. Larry Richmond Sr. hadn't even been released from prison at that point. Not only that, Becky Foxdour wasn't even living with Robbie Dour at that point. The prosecution inquired about whether Foxdour might have been motivated by financial gain. Raise your right hand.

Did your mother ever talk to you about the firefighter pension after the murder of Robbie Doerr? Yes. When's the first time she brought that conversation up? From my remembrance, almost the same night. And how many times did you say that she talked to you about it?

We had a conversation about it daily, and I got frustrated several times, and I was like, Mom, there are procedures we have to go through to get to that point. There were times it looked as if like someone had just like gut punched her. It was sad to see this woman you grew up with sitting there. Her hair wasn't done like she normally would do it. Her makeup wasn't done.

It was different. And I think it made it a little bit harder for me to be on the stand with her in the room looking the way that she did. When Nathan started testifying, it was like he flipped a switch and just turned into somebody else. It was pretty hard to watch. You know your mom was not a beneficiary for purposes of any financial benefit, correct?

I don't know who's beneficiary on anything. If you were to learn that your mom had no financial interest as a result of Robbie's death, would that surprise you? I mean, she— no. I was not motivated to kill him for his pension. I didn't kill him.

And Rob and I hadn't even talked about life insurance or pension or any of that. We were, we were just being married. They don't want you to listen to the truth. I felt like I just listened to a screenplay of a crime novel that was based entirely on fiction. I ask you to return the only verdict that's justified by the evidence in this case: murder and conspiracy to commit murder.

With that, you may begin your deliberation. All right. As prosecutors, you know who's guilty, right? But that's not good enough. The standard is beyond a reasonable doubt.

When the jury returned a verdict I can just remember being out on the set and the producer telling me in my ear, we're going to air it live. I close my eyes and tears just start flowing.

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State of Indiana versus Elizabeth Joanne Fox-Durr. Verdict. The courtroom was tense in the moments leading up to the verdict reading, and after more than 4 hours, the jury reached a decision. We the jury find the defendant guilty of count 1. I held my aunt's hand and I held Nathan's hand and I closed my eyes and Tears just start flowing.

We, the jury, find the defendant guilty of count 2. Like, that is all we could have ever hoped for.

Thank God this is done. Thank God Dad can rest peacefully. When I heard the guilty verdict, I couldn't believe it. They got it wrong.

They got it wrong.

And all I could think was, this is my life you're playing with.

Becky would later be sentenced by a judge 90 years in prison. So basically, she will be spending the rest of her life behind bars. All right. It's horrible.

I mean. I'm not guilty.

There are people that are guilty and say they're guilty that get way less time than I'm looking at. The next time that she is going to be a part of the free world will be in a funeral in a graveyard somewhere. Everybody just has this idea that she's this villainous woman that was out for money, and I want more people to see the actual good side of her, the kind of person that she actually is. It's not adding up. There's something missing.

It's awful to watch people that you love suffer the consequences and do bad things. Mm-hmm.

Do you believe your sister Becky plotted to kill Robbie? I don't think that it matters what I think. You don't have an opinion about whether Becky and Larry plotted to kill Robbie? The rational part of my brain says it would appear such, but I think the irrational heart is still begging the universe for a different answer. Police say back in 2019, Richmond conspired with Elizabeth Fox Doerr to murder Robert Doerr in the driveway of his home.

His trial in the murder case is set to begin in December. I got a call from the state public defender. They were looking for someone who was qualified to handle a life without parole case. She sent me an email and said, would I be interested? I said, well, this might be one of the only times I get a case like this.

So let's give it a shot. The murder trial of Larry Richman Sr. He's the man accused of shooting and killing Evansville firefighter Robert Doerr. During Becky's case, we heard all this testimony and saw a lot of the evidence at that time, so we knew what to expect going into this one. The whole conceit of the state's case is that this was a murder for hire.

Day 2 of testimony in a high-profile murder trial in Evansville. Today, jurors heard from someone at the center of the case. You know, we're relying heavily on witness testimony. So Mandy, the night of, where is Larry Richmond? Larry's trial, what was that like?

Just sad. And the essence of what you said at the stand, what was it? That I didn't know where he was. That you didn't know where he was. That he wasn't at his mom's.

But like I said, he came back so fast, I didn't think anything of it. So they tell you the phone is pinging at the scene of the crime, and then you see him going into that gas station. What conclusions do you come to? He was going to get cigarettes. I think that she was having problems and maybe still is grasping that he did this, but I just found her to be just honest and open and able to tell the jury her story because she was telling the truth.

Larry was never at the Foxdures' house during the time of the shooting. He's at his mom's house the entire time. Larry was involved with a lot of women, so his phone was constantly ringing. And so mom had said, hey, turn your phone off. Spend time with me.

And then he goes to get gas, turns his phone back on, and then we see him at the gas station. This is a circumstantial evidence case, and the evidence was just piled up high against their client. The fate of an Evansville man is now in the hands of a jury. I think they deliberated for around 11 hours or so.

We, the jury, find the defendant, Larry Ali Richmond, guilty of murder.

I was hurt. I was sad for Larry. Because I had— that was not what I had envisioned. I had not envisioned hearing one word. I had envisioned hearing two words.

This is— this is the end. And we can finally be able to put this past us and be able to just grieve the way we need to instead of it being thrown in our face constantly.

The man convicted of killing an Evansville firefighter 7 years ago will spend the rest of his life in prison. Oh, some days I'm madder than hell. It was 7 years ago. I have to, like, sometimes I just have to put it in the past and be like, okay, this is where we are now. He does not say he does it.

He, he to this day did not do it. Well, then you understand he's lying to you, right? And himself. People watching this are going to ask, what keeps her connected to Larry after everything you've been through?

After everything happened, my mom was angry, but she still loved him, and I don't think she has ever stopped loving him. People watching this are going to ask, what keeps her connected to Larry? After everything you've been through? I think over the course of time, I've been through so many ups and downs with, "Do I believe it? Don't I believe it?" And then I'm talking to him, and he's convinced me that he didn't do it, and then I get more information.

And it's just— I've gone back and forth so many times that I've just decided that he's another human being that God has given me to love. Is he seeing anyone else? I don't know, probably. I hear that's what the inmates do. But I have no way of knowing.

I don't ever know. Would that matter to you? No. So you're still sort of together. You're still— Yeah, we are.

Engaged. Yeah, but yeah. But I'm also— God. I just feel so stupid when I talk about it, but I get what I need from him. From Larry?

Yeah. He wants to talk to me in the morning. He wants me to tell him when I'm home safe from work. He has begged me not to leave him. He says he needs me, and I like— I want to be loved and wanted and needed.

All the things. You regret bringing him into your family? I mean, yeah, look at us now.

This whole case is built upon one thing: a deleted phone call.

I don't know if my life would have unfolded differently if I had just told him about the phone call. They still— I think, honestly, I think I'd still be in the same spot. They would still think that we had had an affair. They would still think that, you know, I conspired. They would— they grabbed a hold of me and didn't let go.

Becky was loving. Becky was love, you know? Becky's not evil. Becky's not a monster. Becky's not— She's not all these things everybody thinks she is.

Do you talk to her? No. I mean, I wrote her a letter and I told her that if it was true, that I forgave her, and that if it wasn't true, that I was sorry this was all happening.

This is still very hard to take. I mean, all of this. This— To realize that this is my life.

Rob was a sweetheart. He was a good person to everybody. Um, he became my best friend.

And I miss him every day.

At the Evansville Fire Department, their newest fire truck, then they dedicated that in honor of Robbie.

He has a fire engine that will do what he used to do. Roll up to the scenes now and protect people and save people's lives.

Dad can finally rest. He deserved more than what he got. He deserved not for that to happen. I'll never be able to call him. I'll never get to hear his voice.

What is that, man?

I'll never get to hug him again. He should still be here with mine and Lindsay's kids to be a grandparent to these children, and they're missing out.

We're missing out.

It's now yours. I know, it's big.

A family still remembering. And we should point out that Robbie's wife Becky had her appeal denied. Her relationship with son Nathaniel remains strained. He tells us he will never visit her in prison. Meanwhile, David, convicted gunman Larry Richmond Sr. declined our interview request but He tells us he will appeal his conviction.

That's our program for tonight. Thanks for watching. I'm Deborah Roberts. And I'm David Muir. From all of us here at 20/20 and ABC News, good night.

I have great news! Malcolm in the Middle is back. My life is fantastic now. In a 4-part event. All I had to do is stay completely away from my family.

Your biggest problem Is that we exist? Everyone's invited to the can't-miss reunion of the year. This family's behavior is toxic to me! You all just take turns fighting and creating disasters! That's what families do!

Malcolm in the Middle: Life's Still Unfair. Now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+ for bundle subscribers. Terms apply. Rated TV-14L.