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Hi, 2020 listeners.

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We're about to hear the second episode of Death in the Dorms, Season 2, a new true crime series from ABC News Studios. This week, we'll hear about Haley Anderson, a nursing student from Binghamton University, whose untimely death sparked outrage in her community, igniting an international search for her killer.

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Let's listen.

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When the When the story broke, I was still very in the twilight zone of, How could this happen to our friend?

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Police found Anderson, who was from Westbury, dead inside an off-campus home on Friday.

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Someone that's so full of promise and who's going to college and waiting for their degree, that's just a very tragic thing to happen to someone.

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I say she's Forever 22. That's hard. That's sad to me because Forever 22 is too young.

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Mic check, check, check. She was friendly with a huge heart.

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Her roommate's discovery she was murdered. A mile from the universe, an international manhunt is underway.

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That I was made for you. Can you work me at least? You tried your best, I know you did. To get over it. Now it's time to rest, you can't run from this.

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May ninth, 1995, Haley Anderson was born, and I did something in the top 10% of the world. I delivered on my due date. So of course, Haley would come into the world when she was due because she was always very tenacious. Haley grew up in Salisbury, New York. Very tight-knit community, in the middle of Long Island. She was very curious and such a rambunctuous little child. She had a great sense of humor.

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Kaylee and I became close in second grade when we actually shared a class together. We met in second grade. Her and our friend Sydney both came up to me and asked me if I wanted to play, and I said yes. We have been best friends ever since. Sydney, Haley, and I spent a lot of time together. Every Friday, we would go and get pizza. We would make some YouTube videos. All right, put the car and drive and we'll go.

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Okay.

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That was a major part of our childhood. Does everybody buckles in? Growing up, we were both creative people, but Haley would go, Do you feel talky and and she was athletic. She was intelligent. She was on every single honor roll that you could possibly want to be on. Haley was extremely self-sufficient. She grew up in a way where her mom was a great example for that. Karen did a lot of things on her own. Karen basically raised her by herself.

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I filed for divorce from Haley's dad when Haley was 14 years old, and that was hard. This was a very difficult time for Haley, but we were always very close, so we persevered.

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She always wanted everyone around and everyone to be happy, and she didn't want anyone to leave her again, which anyone going through as a child of divorce feels that way. In high school, when people were rebelling and going out in parties and leaking out of the house. Haley was the complete opposite of that. She was a straight A student. She was a tutor.

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When she was setting out looking at colleges, we went to Binghamton University, and she walked in on the campus and she fell in love It was really quite large. It was pretty. It was summertime there because it's a little different in the winter when it snows every day. But she fell in love with Binghamton, and that was her choice to go there. Take off, baby, going to take Binghamton University is a really good school.

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It's known for its academics. It's even termed Public Ivy by our university.

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Binghamton is a very well-renowned suni, and it's difficult to get into. And I was very proud of her for choosing Binghamton. I thought it was a good fit for her.

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Cautionate to the moon ♪ Yeah, we'll learn how to swim, but don't, don't look back. ♪ Suny stands for State University of New York, and So it comprises all the universities and colleges that are public schools. It's very recognizable within the state of New York to then go get a job. As a kid who grew up in Long Island, it's very common for you and a lot of your friends to go to Suny schools. At that time, Binghamton was, and still is, has such a high regard as a Suny school. And so when she made the decision to go there, I was very excited for her. Binghamton University, it's not really in the city. You have to take a bus or a car to go there. The campus is very chill, relaxed, very comparable to many public schools in the US. The city, on the other hand, is very I would say, run down. So IBM started in Binghamton, and it produced a ton of manufacturing jobs. And Binghamton was booming at one time in its history. And then IBM left, and now it's disheveled. But it's definitely a college town. There's bars there that are strictly made for students.

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It's not a big sports school. I mean, I think we're Division One, but the school store has a joke shirt that says Binghamton football. Has hasn't lost a game since, I don't know, its inception because we don't have a football team. I think Haley was starting to become her own when she went away to college. She didn't really have too much of an idea of what she wanted to do right away. It's when she found nursing, then it really clicked for her.

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She applied to the nursing school at Binghamton University for her junior year, and she got accepted into the program in the Deckert School of nursing.

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She was excited to be a nurse. You could tell she really had a liking to it.

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She thrived in that program, and she loved it. Then she even applied for an externship at Northwell, and she got it. She was home all summer working really hard, putting on her scrubs. It was almost magical to me because I've never had anybody in my family being in the medical career, so I thought this is going to be perfect for her.

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She had always wanted to travel, and she thought, maybe if I become a nurse, maybe I could do travel nursing. She hadn't decided on that, but it just opened up this world of things that she didn't even know was possible. As much as college is for the academic aspect, it's just as important for your social aspect to figure out who you are as an individual away from your friends and family. And Haley took advantage of that, which everyone going to college should. And she wanted to see what she liked, see what she didn't like, and take the time to figure that out before making any concrete decisions. A couple of years into her college career, she told us she had met a guy named Kevin. He was very sweet. He was very cute. They hit it off. It seemed like they had a really a good relationship at first.

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Kevin lived in Long Island as well. So I think when I met Kevin the first time, he came over to our house. They had a lot of fun together, and they would make each other laugh, and they just had so many things in common. It was just a very easy relationship.

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He supported Haley in a way that me and my sisters supported Haley. He let her be Haley.

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But when it started getting closer to her graduation time, she started thinking about if she wanted to be in a serious relationship. There were a couple of times with Kevin that they talked about putting it on hold for a while.

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But I know that they always stayed in So even in their off period, they were still texting. They would hang out periodically. Despite her liking to Kevin, she still had that itch to just meet new people. Hokeup culture exists. You're in college, you want to have fun. Like any typical college student, she was just dating around. Thank you. This ain't just another old pop song. I ain't a pop star. Haley had met Orlando in her nursing program, sophomore year.

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I went up on Super Bowl weekend, it was like the third and fourth of February, and that's when I met him for the first time of 2018. I know he was born in Miami, but he had dual citizenship with United States and Nicaragua. Orlando's sister was nearby, I think in Queens. His mother and his father were living in Nicaragua. His father was a doctor, so he wanted to follow in his footsteps and become a nurse in the medical field. His father had passed away. Haley befriended him as she did many of the people in the nursing program.

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Their relationship started purely friendship. I know that through time, it became more of a romantic relationship, but it was never a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. Kevin and Orlando were in the same fraternity at Binghamton. I knew they were friendly. They were both from Spanish-speaking backgrounds, so they had that in common. I think as the relationship with Kevin and Haley ended, and then Haley was on and off again with Orlando, Kevin Even while it probably made him upset, allowed Haley to do what she wanted to. It was very casual. She did make it clear to Orlando that she did not want anything serious.

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Kaylee was just ready to start her independent life free from anything that was going to keep her attached to one area. She wanted to have a career and really embrace the career and embrace the perks that come from having that salary and ability to travel. She had a job lined up at Northwell as long as she passed her nursing boards. So that would have been the next step. She would have graduated and studied for nursing boards, taking those in June, and hopefully gotten her career. Haley called me to talk her tax return. She was all excited because she was going to get $400 back. And I said, I love you. She said, I love you. And I said, Talk to you soon. And we hung up. That was Tuesday And then on Thursday, she was supposed to go to her roommate's poetry reading. But she didn't show up. Haley's roommates were calling her and calling her, but she wasn't answering. And that's when they started to get concerned. And I didn't even know they couldn't get in touch with Haley. Friday morning, that's when they checked the Find My Friends app on the iPhone, and they saw that it was at 23 Oak Street, which is where Orlando's apartment was.

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So that's when her roommate went over to the apartment. And no one answered the door. And they climbed through the window. That's That's when they found Haley.

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On March ninth of 2018, Binghamton police received a 911 call from Haley's their teammates. Officers respond to the scene. They enter the home. That's where they find Haley lying in bed unresponsive. And obviously, just given the nature of Haley's age alone is suspicious. 22 Two-year-olds generally just don't die without some related medical condition. Here, by all accounts, is just from the visible eyes, is a healthy person who's found deceased lying in bed. It was safe to say that the death was suspicious in nature. I was advised of the situation. I responded to the scene as well as my staff.

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We were advised by my lieutenant at the time that they had a death investigation pending. Unusual circumstances, so to speak.

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They said that they were drafting a search warrant for the residence.

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So my partner, Jess Griffin, and I, went to the scene.

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Obviously, we can't go inside the until the search warrant is completed and signed. So we were waiting for that to happen.

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The area around 23 Oak Street, it's residential multifamily homes, along with single-family homes, known for Banton University University students, where Haley and her friends lived. It was around the corner. The apartment where Haley was located was not Haley's apartment.

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It was rented by several other Binghamton University students. Was Orlando Trusaro being one of them.

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Through talking to Haley's roommates, it was learned that Orlando, I don't know if you could say that they were boyfriend and girlfriend, but they had an on-again, off-again relationship. And where Haley was located was Orlando Tercera's bedroom. We have to know why Haley has been found deceased in his bed and why he is not around.

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Once the search warrant was signed, then we start moving our way inside.

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As we moved into the dining room, we noticed that the bookshelf was askew. Screwed into the entryway, it's like a wood frame structure, were three eyelids, three metal eye hooks, and through those was a necktie.

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And not too bar, into the kitchen a little bit, there was a chair that was askew as well.

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My detectives see that as evidence of a suicide attempt, failed suicide attempt.

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9, 8, 14, 8, 14, meetings, 6, 25 on We also noticed some gauze packaging on the kitchen counter. In the garbage can also were more gauze paper towels with obvious blood standing.

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So that was another indication that someone hurt themselves and tried to clean themselves up a little bit.

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We did go into the bedroom where Haley was located.

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She was found in the bed, almost in a sitting position, I guess you could say. No wounds, but we did see some bruising around her neck.

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As you got in closer, you could actually see a ptichial hemorrhage images in her face.

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So we assumed it was manual strangulation.

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They did find a note, a handwritten note. It was in Spanish. The note translated, I'm really sorry about this. I never felt I could be capable of doing this, Father. I'll see you soon. I'm sorry this is stupid. I'm sorry. At that point, I am fairly confident that we have a homicide investigation. Orlando is our person of interest. We have to find him. We have to talk to him. And members of the Binghamton police were in contact with Haley's family to let them know.

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I had just come home from school, and I pulled up to my house, and there was a big black car. And there were two men sitting in the car with suits on. And I pulled into my drive when I got into my house, and I just kept looking out the window because I was like, That's so odd. It scared me. I was like, Oh, God, who's in trouble? I kept looking at the window and they weren't coming, and they weren't coming. So I started feeding my dogs. And then all of a sudden, I see them take a big swig of water and get out of the car, two of them together, shut the door, and they start walking up my driveway. My heart was pondering so fast, and They knocked on my door and I walked out and I said, Can I help you? They're like, Yeah, we need to talk to you. I go, Can we talk here? They go, No, we need to talk inside. And they sat me down at the dining room table and they just said Homicide. And then I heard them say 23 Oak Street and then Haley. And then from then on, it's really...

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It's just a blur. The police officers, they didn't tell me how it happened. And I just remember they didn't want to leave until I had someone come to my house. So I called my one friend and I just said, Patty, Haley's head because I just wanted them to leave my house because I just needed to grieve or process without it being with strangers. Even though they were the nicest gentlemen, I mean, I wouldn't want to have to do that job. Oh, God, I'm sorry.

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I remember my mom getting a phone call from Karen. She made a scream that I can't describe. She goes, It's Karen. Haley's dead. And I said, What are you talking about? And I remember I fell to my knees. My sister, Joni, called me. I screamed so loud. I went numb. I couldn't walk. My roommates had to carry me up to my bed. And I just... I think I couldn't feel anything. Nothing made sense. I was getting ready to go out on a double date with Christina, actually. One of our other friends had texted me, Hey, have you heard the news?

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Police found Anderson, who was from Westbury, dead inside an off-campus home on Friday.

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She was just such a bubbly person, opened up to anyone. She was friendly with a huge heart. I called Sydney and I said, Is this real? And she did confirm, Yes, it's real. Why do you think about the trajectory of your life? You don't expect something this tragic happened to your best friend. We were both in disbelief, and the first guy that popped into our head was Orlando. We did not have to hear about any suspects from the police. We did not have to wait for her family to confirm who it was. We immediately knew that it was him because of what he had previously done to Haley.

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Throughout this process, the investigation, we had a lot of people that wanted to cooperate and offer information. So there was a lot of interviews that were conducted of associates of Haley and Orlando. The information that came forward was that Orlando was obsessed with Haley and jealous if she was with other people. We picked up information of Haley's car tires getting slashed.

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One morning, Haley had sent me a Snapchat of her tires being slashed. Who the fuck slashed every single one of my tires last night? And Haley's car was outside of her apartment. The only person that Haley could think of that had the motive to slash her tires was Orlando. Orlando was jealous of Haley dating dating Kevin, dating other people, dating in general. It was a night that she had been with Kevin. I guess that just made Orlando very angry, and it led him to slash her tires. With you, I'm coming for. It did become a messy situation. Kevin and Haley would try to rekindle their relationship, and she would stop talking to Orlando for a period of time. You can tell that problems were starting to arise, though. You can tell there was a jealousy factor coming from Orlando, and you could tell things were getting messy between Kevin and Haley. But the biggest difference was that Orlando wanted to control every one of Haley's moves. I'll be coming for you. I'll be coming for you. He wanted her all to himself. He was very possessive. At that time, he decided to just slash her tires.

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And the next day, we told her to file a police report, and she did file the police report, so it would be documented.

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She did give them his name, but she was hesitant to press charges.

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Haley didn't want to ruin Orlando's chance of being a nurse.

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Because of the cost of each tire added altogether, the price would be to a point that it would be considered a felony. To my understanding, if you commit a felony, I don't think you're allowed to continue in the nursing school at Decker. That's not something I've looked into to see if that's a fact, but I think it was something that Haley was very concerned about. That's the conversation that transpired between Haley and myself, and that was my understanding of why she was hesitant to press charges.

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Orlando did admit to slashing her tires and gave Haley money to pay for the tires to be replaced, and then they just moved on from that. I was very concerned for her, but in Haley's point of view, it was already handled. It's fine. And that was that.

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She hasn't said anything else has happened. Nothing else has transpired. It seemed like he took some responsibility for his actions. I thought, well, everything must be okay. Haley handled it. He paid for the tires, and everything's back to normal. But Haley never really told me to what extent he was stalking her. I don't know because she didn't want me to react in the same way I did with the tire slashing, or she just thought she could handle it because she knows Orlando. I didn't expect anything that tragic to occur.

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I was told from her and some of her friends that Orlando was becoming obsessive over her. He would be mad if she was hanging out with her friends doing something without him. He wanted to know where she was, what exactly she was doing, how long she was going to be there. There was sometimes he would show up on her doorstep uninvited. When asked to leave multiple times, he wouldn't, and he would just stay out there. He had the way with his words where he could make a sob story out of his life. The type of person Haley was felt for those type of people because she just had such a kind heart. So regardless of these things he was doing, she felt for him. When you have someone psychologically taking advantage of you, it blurs your vision. So I think for us, it was such an easy thing to say, Stop talking to him, but it's someone she saw every day in clinicals. It's someone she had a history with. So it was a lot easier said than done for her.

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She trusted him. So that's probably the biggest thing. She trusted him.

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At this point, crime scene detectives, they complete their processing of the scene. An autopsy is scheduled through a forensic pathologist the following day. Kelly's death is ruled a homicide by manual strangulation.

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A detective came down, and that's when they told us how it happened.

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It just made the emotions so much stronger because it's like, now not only do we know that she was murdered, but she was murdered in such a brutal way. So that was really hard to accept and understand.

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Then they separated us all, and they were asking us all questions. The police officers were asking us questions. The detectives were asking us questions. On Sunday, I went up to meet the DA and his office.

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It was a very, very difficult experience for our entire office as well as the Anderson family. I mean, this is really one of our own. We welcome students into this community, the Binghamton University family, and when something like this happens, it's just devastating.

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She was literally the greatest person ever. She never didn't have a smile on her face. This is not an easy office at all.

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It was very upsetting to the university students because this is someone that, whether they knew her or not, this is somebody that is their age. They don't think about that they're going to die. So when somebody their age dies, it's almost like a reality check. And it's very disconcerting to them. And it was a... The campus reacted.

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The university offered counseling for students and made services available to them.

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They closed classes in the nursing school just to let the kids process what's going on to a colleague, a schoolmate.

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My focus was, my staff's focus was, we got to find Orlando. We have information, Orlando's sister had originally contacted Binghamton University police the morning of March ninth to say that she had received an alarming text message from her brother, Orlando. And this is before Haley has been found deceased In that message, he had made statements that he was a failure, that he left his car at JFK Airport. And Binghamton University Police contacted us. I reach out to some law enforcement partners at that point, specifically the local FBI agent, to say, Can you check to see if he is I had a border a plane, and I was notified that Orlando had boarded a flight to Nicaragua, and Orlando was no longer in the United States. We've had suspects fully on us before, whether it be to New York City or Florida. In my 24 years, this is the first time that I've ever dealt with a case where we've had a suspect flee the country.

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We had learned that he had family down the Nicaragua as well as here. He was a US citizen and had dual citizenship with Nicaragua.

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Flight is, in my mind, in my experience, is a pretty clear sign of guilt.

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When I found out Orlando had fled the country, I was extremely angry. The thing that makes me the most angry about the whole situation is that he just left her there in that room, in that bed. It's like, you do something so horrible, but it's like maybe you have this small fiber inside of you to feel for somebody. But he didn't. He left my best friend laying on that bed, and he didn't care. He has no remorse, and he's a coward.

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Orlando fled the United States, but we had to still move forward. At that point, I was confident he's the guy that we want, but now my staff had to collect the evidence to prove that he's the guy that we wanted. We retrieved video from the residence at 23 Oak Street, and basically we're going to track every move that we can, whether through video, credit cards, whatever we can do to follow Orlando's movements. Upon reviewing the video from 23 Oak Street, Orlando was seen leaving his residence at 23 Oak Street around 2:30 in the morning. On the eighth, he returns at around 3:30 in the morning with Haley. They're seen on video walking in together. The one thing that's important to note that after that 3:30 timestamp on the eighth, Haley's never seen again. She's seen walking in, but she's never seen leaving the residence. Orlando, on the other hand, is seen numerous times coming and going from the home. At around, say, 8:30 at night on the eighth, he's clearly packing his car with luggage. It goes. That night, Haley is due to meet her friends at a poetry reading, and she never arrives to meet them.

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Again, putting those pieces of the puzzle together. It's reaffirming what we knew, but what greater power is it than the video evidence of two people walking in in, and only one person walks out. We actually sent guys down to JFK Airport.

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Port Authority police brought us over to the terminal. They were able to pick him up actually walking into the terminal on security cameras. Immediately, you saw the head bandage around his head. Pretty tell-tale, because that just confirmed what we thought from the scene about a possible attempted suicide. They were able to track him throughout the airport from the time he got there till the time he boarded the plane.

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The death of Haley, that garnered national attention.

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We got calls from media from all over the country.

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National Manhunt launched for the former boyfriend of a nursing student found dead in upstate New York. Orlando is a dual citizen.

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He leaves the United States for Nicaragua.

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Reporters who spoke to one student who said she was shocked when she heard the news. It's really terrifying to see something like that happen so close to home.

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It was a high-profile case. So the Nicaraguan authority, they They located Orlando in Nicaragua, and they arrested him.

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22-year-old Orlando Tercero was arrested in Nicaragua. He apparently was in a hospital there, and I believe somebody there recognized him and called the cops, and he was arrested right outside of the hospital grounds. When we found out he was caught, it was initially a sense of relief, but then that also meant nothing because she was still gone. While we felt safer knowing he was caught, that just led to more question, what's next? We had no idea what was going to happen.

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From there, it then becomes how to handle what turned in to be an international incident.

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There was a warrant issued for him to be brought back. The charge is murder in the second degree, and the people are ready for trial. Our understanding was that he would actually stand trial in Broome County.

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I was very happy that they had found him. He was arrested, and then it was just a waiting game.

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It feels good to get a feeling that hopefully justice will be served. Right now, it's hard to look at the bright side of things.

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Once we had learned that he had been taken into custody down in Nicaragua, our office was very busy trying to meet with the State Department, contact Washington, DC, in a way to get him extra extradited back to Broome County, New York, to stand trial. Great efforts were made by our local government, federal government, to try and get this individual back.

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I got a call from the DA. He said that they're not extraditing Orlando. Right away, I said, Well, what does that mean?

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I knew that Orlando had dual citizenship, so I wasn't sure whether or not he would be extradited to the United States to have a trial.

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This was a very unique situation, something that I had never come across in my 25 years as a prosecutor. My understanding regarding the extradition treaties that are in place are that if he is a citizen of both countries, that they have the option to have him tried in Nicaragua or be brought back to the United States to face trial. There came a point in time when the authorities in Nicaragua made it clear to our local government and our federal government that he was going to be tried down there based the fact that he was a citizen of Nicaragua.

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He would be prosecuted in Nicaragua for the crime of femicide.

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Femicide is basically homicide, but with a specific intention to harm a female. Femicide occurs in every country, but it's not recognized as femicide in most countries.

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We don't have that law in New York State. We have murder in the second degree. That's what he was charged with in this case under New York law.

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Once we found out he would be going to trial down there, I was glad to hear that he was being charged with femicide and not homicide because what he did was the brutal murder of a woman based off of their prior relationship. So I thought that was a very appropriate charge that should be brought upon him.

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We did everything that we could to help Haley's family through the process, but we were learning the process ourselves at the same time, trying to explain it to them. But we were going to do everything that we could to make sure that Family's family got justice.

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As it started moving along, everything started to come together. They both complied that they would have the trial on Skype or whatever they call a video camera in between the two court systems.

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We actually had our grand jury room outfitted as a courtroom with all the technology in order to connect with Nicaragua. Sometimes there were mechanical glitch or technical difficulties to hook up with them by satellite.

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We were dispatched to a female down not breathing when I arrived.

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They had an interpreter, so when we didn't understand it, she would explain everything to us.

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Laying on the bed. Estaba acostada en la cama. On her back.

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De boca arriba Members of my staff were called upon to testify and present testimony and/or physical evidence that was recovered during the investigation.

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My friend app was showing that Halley Anderson's cell phone was inside the apartment.

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We had to bring in witnesses from all over the country. They were actually questioned by the prosecutors. We did not question them. They were just put on the video and were interviewed by the prosecutors down in Nicaragua.

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The whole situation was very weird to me, but I was happy that he was being tried and he was being held accountable. They stated that Halley had hooked up with Orlando Tracero a couple of times, but did not want anything serious with him.. That he was obsessed with her, and that at one time, he had left her vehicles tired. At the time, I thought it was because I was seeing Haley again. Seeing Orlando throughout the trial was one of the craziest things because he sat there looking bored the entire time. He did not speak, which I know in trials, usually the person being accused doesn't really go on the stand. But it was extremely frustrating because you're almost like, Oh, you Maybe you're going to watch Orlando on this trial, and maybe you're going to see some reaction, or he's going to admit to what he's done, and there was absolutely nothing.

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Orlando Tercero, in a cold-blooded manner, choked a life out of a young woman who was, we believe, probably sleeping.

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It doesn't get any more sick and depressed than that.

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The judge was female. They had a female prosecutor who was such an advocate for Haley. Very impressed with her. I was very proud of everything that she was doing. She really did a great job.

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His defense was honestly horrible. They tried to pull that insanity thing or that he was under the influence of alcohol. I mean, it was all horrible.

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We wrapped everything up, and then I think 30 minutes to an hour later, they delivered the verdict.

00:48:55

In the United States, you have a jury trial where you have to convince 12 people beyond a reasonable doubt of the defendant's guilt. Nicaragua used the judge having the authority to make the decision as to whether someone is guilty or not guilty. So we didn't know anything about this judge. We didn't know what the judge was going to do. It was a very stressful time for everyone involved. In November of 2019, Orlando was convicted of femicide. We knew that the sentence could be up to 30 years in prison, and we were somewhat relieved at that point knowing that Haley's family would get justice.

00:49:53

He got the full 30 years, and that was the fullest extent of their law.

00:50:01

We were very pleased with the judge's decision, and we believe it was the right decision.

00:50:16

It provided us a sense of relief that at least that portion of justice was served. It gives us a little bit of peace of mind that we were able to get the closure that we needed, or at least that I needed.

00:50:36

I'm glad he got what he deserved to the fullest extent of the law, but death is forever, and he's not going to be there forever.

00:50:48

There's an outstanding warrant for him, and he's ready to be tried in New York State. The maximum sentence in New York State for murder in the second degree is 25 years to life. Now, would we bring him back to be tried a second time? Decisions would have to be made down the line. His defense attorney in New York State, as well as down in Nicaragua, would argue that double jeopardy attaches. Our position is that it doesn't attach. It's a separate country, and he could be tried here. But the decision obviously won't be made by me if he continues this 30-year sentence. But the family would be contacted, and we would want their input onto whether you would bring this guy back to the United States.

00:51:33

The lingering effects that Hanley Anderson's murder had at Binghamton were really discussions between students. I talked to my friends about it. They talked to me about it. We all were thinking and continue to think, That's really sad, because it just doesn't make sense for that to have happened. I I didn't know her, but someone that's so full of promise and who's going to college and waiting for their degree, that is a very tragic thing to happen to someone. After Haley's death, we had attended her graduation, and they had a picture for her on the chair for the nursing program. So that was nice. They said her name, and it was nice to be able to honor her in that way.

00:52:31

Since Haley's trial, I've been on a mission to bring awareness to femicide, trying to enact femicide as a law in the United States. Many countries in South America have adopted the law. In Africa, more and more people are starting to adopt the law because it is becoming so much more prevalent. And even here in the United Femicide has become much more prevalent.

00:53:05

I started volunteering on a domestic violence hotline called REN, which is the nation's largest antisexual domestic violence organization situation, and I hope that I've saved at least one person from a situation like Haley's. I want people to be aware aware of signs of controlling or abuse of people in their life. And I want you to know that there's help and there's ways to reach out to people. If you have a friend that is in a situation like my friend was, please tell someone. And I hope that if this saves literally one person's life, then it was worth it for me to be here and relive this.

00:53:53

All of us sleep in at the There was so much more of life for Haley to live and so much more of us to have in Haley in our lives, the experience of Haley. She's never coming home.

00:54:16

And that is the saddest part.

00:54:20

Haley's death is forever. I'm sorry. I need a tissue.

00:54:28

Oh.

00:54:30

This is just her memorial. All of these bricks are for parents who have lost a child. People come here to celebrate their child's life that were lost too early. I have a This is a Lotus with its cremation jewelry and inside. I have her because she always wanted to travel. So wherever I go, she goes with me. I couldn't have asked for a better 22 years. So I'm thankful for that.

00:55:00

Who can say us? Happy to tell this about? Do we just love? Who can say us? Who can Join us next week for a gripping episode about a linebacker from the University of Miami and his childhood friend, whose visit to campus ended in an unpredictable tragedy.

00:55:38

Death in the Dorms was produced by ABC News Studios with the Intellectual Property Corporation, and Yes, Like a River for Hulu Originals. You can find the whole series streaming on Hulu. And be sure to tune in to ABC on Friday nights at 9 for all new broadcast episodes of 2020. Thanks for listening.

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Episode description

During the investigation of the 2018 death of Binghamton student Haley Anderson, all leads point to a single person, but the journey to bring him to justice ends up sparking an international inquest.

Originally Aired: 02/22/24
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