Transcript of Hour 1: And Boom Goes The Dynamite (feat. Jason Benetti)

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When my Brian checks, On Wednesday mornings, the best in the land. That is routinely true. We are often number one sports This podcast in America on Wednesday mornings when Mike Ryan checks. That's a thing that is absolutely true. These are just facts. That is not false advertising. Since we're playing music, though, can you get me the Polka Nakuwa that was me just saying Polka Nakuwa incorrectly one time, and then you guys deciding to make a Polka Nakuwa song?

Dan calling Polka Nakuwa, Polka Nakuwa. And nobody on the show catching him on it.

We to get in the lab. All right, hee-haw three. You have been tasked with making the Polkana Kua.

I want to talk to you guys for a second about precision. Polka, the rest of you doesn't have to get open. Just your hands. Just get Pukha's hands open. It doesn't have to be the rest of him. Just where his hands are. Where are Polka's hands open? Just get the hands open. The rest of them doesn't have to be open. We're going to do this super precise.

It's all right, Dan, that's a little too much. It's puking Deion Sanders's toes. If you say they just need Pukas' hands open for a fourth time this show, we're stopping you.

Penalty box.

Pukas Nakuwa. Pukas Nakuwa. Puka Nakuwa. Puka for you and me. Pukas Nakuwa is here for you and me. With that, we can all agree. So many receptions mean a kind to have the perception that he could become the MVP. We should all anticipate this because he's got precision, greatness echoing throughout eternity. Sapper throws a frozen rope in and in purpose, hands are open. It's a shutdown for you and me. Everybody do the fuca-poka. His quarterback is not named tongue of a loa. So come along now, rise and shout to the whole world above. Nakuha for you and me.

Jason Banetti is wincing. Yeah, he was bobbing along. He was dancing. No, he was dancing. He loves it.

No, he He loves the Kenosha kickers.

He felt like it had some promise, and then it didn't. He is the guest that we have more than any other that I imagine Polka is in the bedroom. More than any other guest that we have on the show, I believe him to be a Polka lover Do I have this wrong, Jason Benetti? And thank you for joining us.

So first of all, how many key changes are in the Polka Nakuwa? I counted 12.

Take your word for it, pal.

Yeah, you were listening for- It was like living on a prayer, the third halfway there, but it happened four times in a row.

It was awesome. When the Pennsylvania Polka played in Groundhog Day, little Jason Jason Binetti liked that very much, yes.

You thought that song had promise at the start. You were smiling, you were joyous, and then it went on about 30 seconds longer than you wanted it to.

I was waiting for the mispronunciations. They should be featured in the actual piece more, I feel like.

I don't understand what's happening right now. This song is excellent. Dan just didn't like it because it sees on echoing throughout eternity, Pukas hands being open. Pukas hands. And another shoehorn reference to the Miami Dolphins' quarterback for some reason. I love that.

No, that was the best part. The tongue of Iloa rhyming. Remember when the kid did the update at Ball State and it went viral? And he was like, Reggie Miller looking good because it was the one guy he knew showed up on the screen. Boom goes a dynamite. Yeah, the Boom goes a Dynamite guy. But at one point, he finds his footing and he's like, Reggie Miller looking good. And then Hakeem Warrack shows up, and he calls him Hakeem Warrack, and the wheels fall off again. That's what the tongue of Iloavilo a shoehorn felt like. It was great.

It's the second time we've done it, and I just think it's so weak to rhyme it with Tunga Viloa by just saying that that's not his quarterback. That's the joke. It's not the correct way to do that.

Dan, we get it. He's no Gus Polinsky. He's trying, though.

Jason Banetti is doing all the games. He is doing baseball games. He is doing football games. He's doing college football games. It's Texas Tech this weekend for you? You're doing- Texas. You're watching the World Series, though, right? You're not so busy preparing for college football that you segue. You're still interested in everything that's happening with the World Series, right?

Absolutely. I can't say that I made it through 18 innings, but I rewatched the other day. I fell asleep at like, midnight. It was not good. It was not good baseball fan behavior, I'll tell you that much. But I think I'm the first person to go from Manhattan, New York, to Manhattan, Kansas, back to Manhattan, New York, in a week.

Yeah, that's not great. That's not a great situation. Well, these small college towns can't be funny. You can't get in here easily, can you?

I hold in my hand my Jason Banetti baseball card revoked.

What?

Revoked. You fell asleep?

You fell asleep? How?

Were you not filled with adrenaline and intrigue and mystery on who was going to win this epic baseball game?

What a movie trailer that was. I would say I had enough intrig and heartrending behavior when the tigers got knocked out in a 15-inning game that I was watching in Lubic, Texas. I was like, You know what? I'll catch up tomorrow. I'm so sorry. Really, apologies. But What if the story was somebody drugged me as part of a bank heist that I witnessed, and then they knocked me out so I couldn't watch the end of the game? Is that better?

Go on. Yeah, that is slightly better. Even you'd concede that much, wouldn't you? Yeah.

I could get my baseball card back if I said that I just couldn't stay up for some nefarious reason. Maybe I was part of the Louv heist.

Can we segue here in to something that I'm shocked by? I'm shocked that Chris Cody has never heard Boom goes the Dynamite. What? He doesn't know what it is. What? He doesn't know anything about what Boom goes the Dynamite is. He doesn't understand the reference. So we'll get the video here in a second to play it for him, because if you get second-hand embarrassment for people, you will get some second. Look at Banetti. He is shocked that Chris Cody doesn't know what this is. We'll play it for Chris Cody in a second. But I want to talk to you for a second about what what we witnessed before you fell asleep and after you fell asleep in that 18-inning game. Yesterday, we were talking, and I don't think we're prisoner of the moment, to say that we're watching Babe Ruth in real-time against 100-mile-an-hour fastballs. We're watching the modern-day Babe Ruth. But where would you go if I said that Shoheya Ohtani is the single greatest athlete that we have ever seen? Now, we have not seen LeBron James or Shaq as a tight end, for example. I imagine they would be great tight ends, and I imagine if they played both sports, they would be great at both sports.

But Shoheya is doing two different things in a sport that only one other guy has done reasonably well. I guess you could say Rick Ankeel, but there aren't many who have done it in a Ruthian fashion. There are only two. So where do you land as an observer of sport on Shohe Ohtani possibly being the best athlete that there's ever been?

Yeah, I'd say my mind goes to Jim Brown, Jim Thorpe. There are a couple of others that you could argue did otherworldly things like this. But To watch him, there's a number floating around of his power to the pole side and his power to the opposite field and center field, and they're both in the top five. Not only is he a great pitcher and a great hitter, but he's great at very specific things within those two that people don't do either. He's very willing to hit a ball out of the strike zone to create problems for people. There are all these micro reasons that he is one of the greatest ever, if not the greatest ever. But where my mind goes, honestly, Dan, is like, what if in the next 40 years we're at the Vanguard? I'm certain we are watching college baseball and how players are trying to do it, right? But what if there are more of these? What if we just have not engineered them well enough? And I sound like an AI inventor type right now, and I don't mean to. But what if there are ways to create this and study him and do more of that?

What is the end run of all of this? Or is he the only person because of the way he's built, because of genetics, because of his musculature, all this stuff? What if he is truly the only one? My answer to your question long-winded, but my answer to your question is, I think we'll find out at the end of this trial period, however long it lasts, where people invariably are going to try to recreate it. And if they can't, then I would say definitely, decidedly, he's the best ever.

Okay, so let me ask you this question because I believe the Dodgers and that roster are uniquely qualified to win at postseason baseball. I believe it's the best roster ever assembled, even though they didn't win more games than everyone during the regular season, and I believe they're built for this time of year. Can I plausibly say that if the Blue Jays beat them, a team that won more games during the regular season than the Dodgers, that it will be one of the biggest upsets in the history of baseball?

Yeah, it's so hard to because of the Blue Jays' win total. But I don't know how good the American League was this year, but that's not taking anything away from that. I'm going to answer this question agnostically from the taking away from the Blue Jays. I think so, too. I agree with you on the Dodgers' roster. And I think it showed, specifically in that 18-inning game, the way they construct a bullpen and the arm angles and their ability to get a loaded lineup out, even though there were some pinch hitters that came in and they're missing a couple of guys late in that game. I do think it is a really substantial upset. And the Blue Jays, I think, are very, very good. It's a deep lineup. Shane Bieber pitched his tail off yesterday. They made some very savvy moves around the edges of the deadline to make themselves better. But I have thought all year, the Dodgers are the best team in baseball, and it's not particularly close in the depth they have.

Am I overreacting when I say, am I being prisoner of the moment when I say, I have never seen, I know it's all Shoheya Tani all the time, but I have never seen a postseason in which a player consistently hits the ball harder, more often than Vladimir Guerrero?

Yeah, man. Every time the tigers play them and every time the White Sox played them when I was there, it was like a 115-mile-an-hour scud missile. And then Alejandro Kirk comes up and he hits a ball that's two balls off the plate into right field. Yeah, he is is just a mammoth human being. But I do want to double back because you said prisoner of the moment twice. I wonder if the moment is the bailiff or is it a prison of the moment? Is it like a pop-up shop prison? The prison of the moment is a visual to me that I think somebody should explore.

The moment is a sheriff, and he locks me up immediately when I say anything is the best I've ever seen when it happened six minutes Well, and that's- So the moment comes over to you and is like, Hands up, varmin.

The moment is doing it. You're not going to a prison of the moment.

No, it is a moment that comes over, handcuffs me, roughs me up, plays by its own rules, and throws me immediately in a prison that is government run.

Frontier moment justice. I love it.

Vlad Guerrero, though, is getting overshadowed because he's hitting the ball hard every time, Jason. It is just totally insane I understand why we're talking about Shoheya O'Tani, but Vladimir Guerrero, your tigers were really good. The Mariners were really good. The pitching is really good, and he's hitting everything hard.

Yeah. The thing about him is, And I've heard people say this about Yordan Alvarez. And for a while this year, we looked it up when the Blue Jays were in town, Alejandro Kirk was the best bad ball hitter in baseball. This has been a good, bad ball hitting lineup. And I I say that because Guerrero takes pitches that are off the plate well, but he also is very willing to smartly expand the zone. And so if you're a ball, ball and a half off the plate, he still can hurt you. Now, the first connection people make is to his dad, right? Hitting the ball off the ground for a base hit, that iconic picture. But part of this is their lineup is geared to that, and they are a very concentrated lineup of hitters who can do damage on baseballs off the plate. And I think that's part of where this comes about is we hear... Like, John Schneider gets to ask the questions about Ohtani, right? Are you going to walk O'Tani? They walk him a bunch of times, whatever. If you unintentionally try to intentionally walk Vlad Guerrero Jr, he can beat you on your misses.

And I think that's the real problem. And then pitchers feel that tension. And then those middle-middle pitches, he rarely, if ever, misses.

It That is crazy. He's one of the best play-by-play influencers anywhere in sports. He's the television voice of the Detroit Tigors, and you can hear him on Fox calling college football, basketball, and NFL games. I want to play the game with you that we did last time, where I just throw out a handful of things and you give me your first thought, okay? You do this on your social media. You post a picture of a ballpark or stadium on socials, and you ask first person that you think of. So Blue Jays, first person that you think of.

Joe Carter.

Dallas Cowboys, first person that you think of.

Emmett Smith.

Fighting Irish, first person that you think of.

Tony Roberts, their longtime play-by-play announcement, who I listened to as a kid.

Dodger Stadium, Oh, can it be Dodger Dogs?

Vin Scully.

Whoa, that was offensive as a broadcaster that you went Dodger Dogs first before Vin Scully, the greatest to ever do what you do.

But that's the fun part of first person you think of. It could have been Raul Obanez. I don't know. It's just whatever pops into my tortured mind.

The funny thing is when you eat Dodger Dogs, you get hot shit, hot foul.

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Dan Levatard.

Can I tell you something? I don't know, maybe like a month ago. And I decided to watch Pitch Clock, and I told Jeremy- Stugatz. This is a good show you're doing.

This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

Benetti, true or false? I'm not saying that there are dozens of players that can do what Shohe is doing. I'm saying, are there dozens of players around the league who are reaching out to their agents saying, Hey, I'm a good pitcher. I can hit, too. Do you think he's inspiring other players that think they can do what he's doing?

I think at this moment in time, every pitcher thinks they can hit. And I think some hitters think they can pitch. But when you get into the 13th evening in a regular season game, we should always cut to the dugout because there's a line of pitchers saying, I'm good. I got this. Put me in. I'll double the left field. Every pitcher thinks they can hit. What is going on in the background? There's a lot of shenanigans happening.

We had a rule played down at first base We had to check with the umpire.

Bullshit, Cole. What do you have for Benetti? Quit distracting Benetti. I'm trying to do a show here.

I asked Bouk Shambi last year, why can't more players do what Ohtani's doing? Meaning, hit and throw.

Hit and throw off the ground, pal.

And Bou got mad at me.

What did Boo say? He's like, You don't watch baseball, do you?

That's a good one. That's a good one.

That's a good one. That's a good boug he does. We haven't done the impersonations with Banetti in a while. Can we talk to Boog about his cubs? I'd like to talk to Boog about his- I got Dan Bingo.

Counts and I were talking, and yeah, you just got to do better. You just got to do better.

When we mentioned Dodger Stadium, I thought of this the other day, usually, I have heard some people hit a ball, a home run, out of a ballpark. Shohe Ohtani hit a ball out of the stadium. It's not something I'd seen before at Dodger Stadium. I can get my head around hitting a ball out of a ballpark, but that's not a ballpark. That is a stadium. Have you seen a ball hit out of Dodger Stadium before?

Never. No. While watching that baseball, they These stadiums give you so much frame of reference because we watch and we see so many things happen inside of them. So immediately you go like, No, never, never, never in a million years. I did the home run derby at Dodger Stadium a couple years ago and don't remember a ball leaving the ballpark. So yeah, no.

That's insane.

Home run derby.

But I've never seen it. The Dodger Stadium, I don't think people... Do people understand how cavernous that is? You don't hit a baseball out of Dodgers Stadium.

He did that, and it might not have even been in the best game that he played during this postseason. And we're asking whether or not there's other guys that could do it. Yeah, why not?

It's like hitting a ball to a different neighborhood. It's like a different point on the map is what that is.

Who have you talked to that can put context on what it is that we say beyond unbelievable or amazing or Ruthian or anything else? When you talk to somebody, Jason, and they explain to you the mystical magic of what it is that you're presently watching, this giant from another land doing things that have never been done in this sport before, what is the context where you're like, That person, they gave me some insight here that it illuminated this for me because baseball people are as confused by this as we are, right?

Yeah. I don't know that anything involving context does anything other than make him more of a unicorn, I guess. I mean, where my mind goes when you say that, because I can't remember a conversation that crystallized it, but you remember a couple of years ago, the Angels opened against the White Sox on Sunday night baseball, and Ohtani hit a home run off of Dylan Cease, I want to say. And this is the thing that sticks out most to me. Ohtani hit a home run off of Dylan Cease, and there was a news item the next couple of days. Espn had to come back and refute a report that they jacked up the microphones in order to make Ohtani's Homer louder. The ball has set cannon fire off of his back that networks are being asked if they juiced the microphone. And that is one of those things that has stuck with me and has etched into my mind because it sounded like a revolutionary war reenactment when he hit the home run. And people were like, Did you mess with this? Was that artificial? And they're like, What are you talking about?

When it comes to Ohtani and you hear things like that, you realize the freakishness of who this athlete is But Jason, there's been so many other random things about this World Series that have been so fun, whether it's a guy like Will Klein throwing four innings in extra innings or Bo Bichette coming back and being able to hit for 400 average in his first three games after not playing for a month. What's one of the random things that you look at that's niche baseball within this series that has stood out to you that you've enjoyed outside of the obvious in O'Tani and Guerrero?

When you're awake, when you're not sleeping during it.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no, no, no. That's a really good point. The Will Klein stuff is fascinating to me because I just love that he has enough of a sense of humor to say in his press conference because he's the anointed hero now. Like, yeah, That's the opposite of how they felt about me before. I appreciate somebody that gets that. I think that that's the fun part of World Series is, is that baseball moments in the regular season just fizzle over time. If I asked you all, what happened, Jeremy, if I asked you, what happened in the Marlins in this game in June, you'd be like, I don't know. But Will Klein is going to eat for free at some high-end restaurants for a long time. And that's the fun part of the randomness, is that baseball is so unrandom in the regular season that now it just gets exacerbated in the postseason.

I don't know about this. I don't mean eat for free He didn't take forever.

He didn't say forever.

He just said- He's going to have to walk in and say, Okay, here's the context. I'm Klein. I did this.

Chris, he's going to have to come in uniform with a baseball, throwing it, and on his phone, replaying the highlights.

Wearing his jersey?

Yeah, exactly.

He's going to have to call. He's going to have to have somebody call for him and say, Will Klein would like to come to your restaurant. He threw four innings. Don't worry. Are you going to run a restaurant? Is there Is there a Dan Levitard show restaurant?

He runs a restaurant, and all they do is interrupt the customers. That's all they do.

Sorry, we're closed for a private event.

Sorry, I decline.

Oh, wow. It's the end of the world as we know.

Miguel Rojas was very close to pitching in that 18-inning game.

Oh, God, it would have been so awesome. They warmed up Yamaboto, but they could have gone to Rojas.

There should be a nuclear treaty. When the headset doesn't work for one coach in football. They turn off the other headset. If one team runs out of pitchers, you should have one ending where you can use a regular pitcher. But if you don't score in the ending against the actual non-pitcher, then your team should have to use a non-pitcher, too, for the ignominy of not getting a run against that guy.

Jason, what do you make that people are complaining after last night that baseball should do away with the intentional walk?

People need to get a hobby. Just get a hobby instead of complaining about stuff that actually works fine. Let him walk him to first. Do you know what it does to the ability to score runs when there's a base runner on first, especially as a leadoff man? You probably should get runs because of it. You're probably going to score. So it's a tactical piece of baseball. And think of how many times we talk about Barry Bonds getting intentionally walked with the bases loaded. It's a piece of strategy. I got no problem with it. That's like saying, why do those bishops only move diagonally? I hate that. Let them move in an L-shape like the knights. Come on, man. If you want to, go play checkers then. Go play checkers.

Yes, that is as indignant as this decent, kind man gets when he just tells you to go play. That is his, you bleep off. That's how he does it.

Yeah, go play. Go play shoots and ladders. If you want a basic game, go play shoots and ladders. It's fine. Or get a little mallet and play Don't Break the Ice. What are you ever going to do? Just don't play baseball then.

Where is this scuba-tradetalk coming from?

Everywhere, it feels like. I mean, it's all the contract situation, right? And his agent and all of these things. And I have no idea. And I don't even know that the tigers know what they're going to do staunchly of what scuba is going to be in a year. All I know is that guy is a top five player I've covered to watch emotionally and just theater-wise. It would be really hard to see him in another for him.

He better not be a dodger.

I'm threatening you. Because the dodger dogs are Vin Scully.

I am threatening you personally. If Scooble becomes a Dodger- If you let that happen, Vinetti. I'm going to have to harm you. I'm going to have to chop off one of your arms and beat you with it. Okay?

It's time for a restraining order from Dan Levatard.

Dan Levatard. Punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call?

Strike one would be, strike, and then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. That's the same for strike two. But strike three, you get down low, you got your hands behind the catcher. The right arm goes up into the air. And then you finish it with the punch. The right arm flings way up into the air.

I wish I could see that.

It's terrible.

The audio is great. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

We have some Boom goes the Dynamite video to introduce to Chris Cody. I'm told the video not great, and we had to shorten it here. Chris, I'm telling you that this is a college broadcast that probably lasted eight or nine minutes. We are not playing all of it for you because the video is bad. I mean, what do you have here for us?

The actual clip is four minutes long. It's a lot of stumbling. It's hilarious, but obviously, we can't play a four-minute clip. So I decided to zero in on just the part that Jason mentioned earlier.

It's his first time ever doing a sports... He was like a last-minute fill-in.

It's a college broadcast. He's doing a highlight package.

I believe it's a college broadcaster doing a legitimate newscast.

Like a local newscast? You think this is a local newscast? I thought it was- No, it's at Ball Street.

I think it's a college. It's a college thing.

I thought it was a college broadcast, and you will hear his nerves. Let's go ahead and play this.

Reggie Miller is looking good.

He shoots a three, and it's good.

Later, he gets the rebound, passes it to the man, shoots it, and boom goes the dynamite.

The final score ended up with the Pacers 63 to the Nets 61.

Passes to the man.

Now, I love that the video starts with the ambient sound of the highlights in the background. I know everyone's going to leave like, Did we get the wrong video? No, that's him nervously breathing because he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Then he finally sees us, Reggie Miller says, Oh, That is the best.

That is the sneaky best part of the video because he literally has no idea what to say. He's shuffling his papers in his full absolute Five Alarm pandemic, and he's like, Oh, God, I've finally seen somebody that I know. It's Reggie Miller, and then he's looking good, and this dude feels great about it. Then there's, sadly, another highlight. So he says, he passes to the man.

Boom goes the Dynamite.

Again, let's play it again because he had Boom goes the Dynamite. He had that loaded up to make sure that he was going to nail it on the broadcast. But the entire thing is four minutes that is absolutely worth your time. It's the sound of a broadcaster, Drowning. I see.

He's winning his 13th consecutive game. Tough shot by Miller, three out of bounds.

Reggie Miller is looking good. He shoots a three, and it's good. Later, he gets the rebound, passes it to the man, shoots it, and boom goes the Dynamite. The final score ended up with the Pacers 63 to the Net 61.

Can we acknowledge the final score was 63-61?

Oh, 2000s basketball so much better.

I don't know why these guys don't defend anymore.

That was a real score.

That was the real score? The Miami Heat had 74 points in the half yesterday.

And boom goes the Dynamite.

And they're the Heat.

Chris, you got to go He's back and watched the whole thing. It's the original viral video before things were viral.

You were saying, Binetti?

Can we talk about the sigh? When's the last time you sighed in the middle of a live broadcast?

It's because he knew he was drowning. One more time, just play it so you can hear the shuffling of papers, the general panic. Because if you're in the audio audience, you can't see the video. He's trailing the highlights by about seven seconds.

Reggie Miller is looking good.

He shoots a three, and it's good.

Feet clearly inside the arc.

Later, he gets the rebound, passes it to the man, shoots it, and boom goes the dynamite.

The final score is ended up with the Pacers 63 to the net, 61.

That can't be right. That's not the final score. There's no way he got the final score wrong. Look, man, they didn't You don't play games in the '50s that were '63, '61. That is simply inaccurate.

Why would you think he got something wrong?

There's just no way that that was the final score of that game. Banete always Good talking to you. Thank you for making the time, as you always do, sir.

Thanks, guys.

Final score was '98, '91, New Jersey Nets.

For some reason, we believe that a game in the '90s would have finished '63, '61. I believe there were some Heat Nicks' playoff games that were pretty close to ending in the '70s.

Those were the days. There was a finals game, Jazz Bulls, that was like '61 to '57.

No, I think the Jazz were in the '50s that game. Yeah. No. Yeah. Bulls won by like 40.

But it wasn't both teams having... It wasn't both... It is fairly absurd that all of us in here would think that the Pacers and then the New Jersey Nets would have played a 63 to 61 game in our lifetime.

I'm giving the broadcaster credit. Why would he have gotten it wrong?

See if you guys can It was fine for me and whether or not it would be worth to play any more of the Boom goes the Dynamite. Yes. Chris, it was delightful to be able to share that with you. I was indeed surprised that that is not something that you had any reference point for. You'd never heard the expression Boom goes the Dynamite before?

I had heard it, but I thought it was more of a professional like, Boom goes the Dynamite.

I'm so excited that you get to experience this clip now for the first time. The kid ended up going on Letterman. Now, Grant Letterman is a Ball State grad as well, so there was a connection. But like I said, it was viral before things were viral.

Zaz, correct me if I'm wrong, he says Boom goes the Dynamite several times, right? He might. He goes back to it as as a crush, almost.

Because it was really working.

It became a thing like Kevin Calabro, the all-time great Seattle Supersonics broadcaster. He then began using it in his broadcast as an ode to the kid.

Also, the Cleveland show and family guy, Cleveland Brown, when he has sex, he goes, and boom goes a dynamite.

I read something really funny during that Banetti interview that I think I'm going to surprise all of you with. I read a detail. It was an article about Brian Kelly, and there was a detail that emerged from that. Brian Kelly, this offseason, entering this season, worked with an image consultant.

No.

I was confused by a couple of the different details on that. Did you understand, Mike, in some of the reporting where he was told to fire his offensive coordinator. And then, according to the reporting, he said, And I also want to fire my offensive line coach. He was not allowed to fire his offensive line coach. And then the athletic director stormed out of the building, and the reporting is that Kelly was using the leverage of his buyout or trying to use the leverage of his buyout, why wouldn't Brian Kelly just also... Why would he want to fire someone else and that be the sticking point on whether he keeps his job or not? Usually, you get to make the threat of, No, I'm going to protect my guy. You can't fire this guy. But this was the opposite of that. This was Brian Kelly saying, No, I'll fire somebody else. I was confused by that detail.

I think the answer is because he's an asshole?

Well, judges, Roy? Roy?

Exhibited the behavior of an asshole.

What is that? No, he went. He went on asshole, Roy. No bit.

You're not arguing with the umpire. You're You're out. Roy, you know what, Roy? What are we doing?

Angel, what's his name over here?

Roy is incorrect.

Angel Hernandez. I didn't see the asshole strike zone.

No, Roy, let's see. We've got to get Roy out of here.

Why strike zone?

Minor penalty, two minutes.

Sport came out of your mouth.

It still came out of your mouth. I could smell it from here.

If we're going to appeal, we got to go with what he says. What are we doing?

We challenged. I do find it funny. It does seem like the ultimate Brian Kelly move to leverage his own buyout.

Is the report true? I saw a report that when he showed up to the facility in the morning, his thumbprint didn't work anymore on the door. Could that be true? Could that be true?

Sometimes those things just don't work. It's like, I can't get it.

I saw a photo that made me happy. It would make you sad otherwise, but it was him eating alone in a booth at a restaurant in Bon Rouge. I was like, Yeah, that makes me happy. His misery.

Let's punctuate this hour by getting Amine's top five, Week 1 NBA observations. This has got to be good here. Let's see what we've got here. Do we have any Oli or are we just going to start with number five?

Yes, we got one Oli, which is that Steph Curry is old and he should retire, and he's awful, and the Warriors are in trouble. Oh, wait. No, they're awesome, and he's awesome.

Jimmy Butler is shooting 57% from three, and he's got a game with 14 of those attempts and 16 of those attempts. So that's how his game is going to age. They're going to let him shoot threes over there like he's Clay Thompson.

Pavel Larson had 17 points last night.

Number 5, Victor Wembenyama is a lot better than we thought he was going be, even though we thought he was going to be awesome.

They're 4-0 here. The Spurs, how good are they going to be? Are the Spurs going to be top of the conference good?

Not top of the conference good. Not top of the conference good. But I thought they were going to be fighting for a play-in spot, and they were going to get it. And now I'm like, I think they're going to be clearly above the six seed line.

He'd about to tag them with that first loss tomorrow, and I tell you what.

You know the Spurs have never started 5-0, ever?

Not going to this year, isn't it?

Isn't that weird?

Number Number 4. Zion is still hurt. Number 3. Amazon and NBC have come to save basketball.

We undercut that one for you by talking about it for an hour in the second hour of the show, right? It's all good.

Number 2.

And this one's a big one, Dan. The Rockets. Maybe we bought a little too early on them. And the number one observation, Dan, from the first week of basketball. The Sixers might be better with that Joel Embiid and Paul George.

That's crazy. Not might. That's crazy. Not might?

Not might, no.

Not might.

For the first time in about six, seven years, you can watch a Sixer game that doesn't have Joel Embiid in it and be like, I like what I see.

I like what I see. Let's do a brand new segment, Zazlo's Daily MVP Nominee.

Mvp of the Day.

If we're talking MVP, Tyrese Maxi needs to be in the conversation. 39 points and 10 assists last night. The Sixers come from behind. One's your own beat went to the bench. Sixers come from behind, win in overtime. Undefeated, He needs to be in the conversation.

Back to back days.

Back to back days for him. That's huge.

Raining king of the mountain MVP.

That is super strange.

That's the longest streak so far, Dan.

Greg Cody said yesterday that Philadelphia should change the name of its arena to the Maxi pad, and that he will deny having said it, and that he will make sure that no one knows that that's something that he ever thought.

The VP. Of the Day.

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