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ABC NewsBut he clears the barrel and fires again before running through an alley, jumping on a bike, and fleeing into Central Park.
From watching the video, it does seem that he's proficient in the use of firearms as he was able to clear the malfunctions pretty quickly.
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
Sources now say bullet casings recovered at the scene have writing on them, including the words deny, defend, and depose. But police overnight not identifying a motive for the attack. Thompson's widow telling NBC he had received threats, but saying she doesn't know the details. UnitedHealth is the largest private health insurer in the US and made headlines recently after a massive cyberattack and for its controversial plan to buy a rival home health provider. Among companies in the health insurance market, UnitedHealth ranks highest when it comes to the percentage of claims denied, nearly twice the industry average.
The brazen attack raising questions as to why Thompson, the leader of such a large corporation, did not have a security team. In addition to the bullet casings, police say they've recovered a water bottle and candy wrapper near the scene and a cell phone. The question now, was it the suspect's phone or a burner phone?
Takes a while to develop forensics into a profile for DNA or fingerprint analysis. They already collected these things that are looking. The telephone is probably the easiest way to do it, and they're looking at that now, breaking it down. We they believe all these things belong to the shooter. So he wasn't the professional that everybody thought he was.
Detectives are working to figure out if the suspect prepositioned a bike somewhere near the crime scene for his getaway.
2 small boys are in extremely critical condition this morning after a gunman opened fire at their elementary school in Northern California. Investigators say gunfire broke out in the small town of Palermo, which is north of Sacramento. The victims are just 56 years old. Police say the shooter died by suicide, and he may have targeted the Christian school after speaking with school officials about possibly enrolling a family member.
We have received some information that he may have targeted this school because of its affiliation with the 7th day Adventist Church.
Police say the suspect's meeting with the school administrator before the shooting raised no alarms. The sheriff is now asking for help finding a gray car that was possibly seen dropping off the shooter.
Well, the weather is making news across parts of the Midwest and the Northeast right now. A fast moving Clipper system could drop 20 inches of snow in some areas that have already had feet of snow on the ground, while rain and heavy wind are expected along the I 95 corridor today. Visibility was down to 0 here in Minnesota yesterday. 1 man was killed in a crash. Wind chills are below 0 in parts of the Midwest, and the National Guard has been clearing snow in Erie, Pennsylvania where they're bracing for even more.
We'll check your full forecast in just a few moments.
In Washington, Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight and to be confirmed as secretary of defense. He is addressing claims of sexual misconduct and alcohol abuse while insisting that president-elect Trump still supports his nomination. ABC's Christiane Cordero has the latest. Christiane, good morning.
Rhiannon, good morning. Pete Hegseth is defiant, saying he will not drink if he gets the job. Even his mother is going on TV to defend him. Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere, insisting he has president-elect Trump's support in his fight to be confirmed as secretary of defense.
He said keep going. Keep fighting. Find your way. Here in this hallway. Way.
Why would I back down if I wasn't in a fight?
Hegseth facing a barrage of new questions about allegations of sexual misconduct, alcohol abuse, and financial mismanagement in his prior jobs.
What you're seeing right now with me is the art of the smear.
Hegseth says he welcomes an FBI background check.
What the media is doing right now is a is a witch hunt. It's it's trial by false accusation and lies. The FBI is gonna look through what and if they do their job properly, which I fully expect they will, they'll talk to everybody and get the full story and a full understanding. That's a report I welcome.
The former Fox News anchor making new appeals to senators to gain support, saying while he does not have an alcohol problem, he promises to give up drinking if he gets the job.
He offered up to me, and I know he has with other senators too that he's not drinking, and that's not something he's gonna do, when confirmed here.
Hegseth also leaning on his mother to make the case. Penelope Hegseth wrote an email to her son in 2018 calling him an abuser of women, later apologizing, saying it was an emotional time. She says her son is a changed man.
I would just say that some of those some of those, attachments or descriptions are just not true, especially anymore.
Sources have said Trump is considering possibly replacing Hegseth with Florida governor Ron DeSantis, Tennessee senator Bill Hagerty, or Iowa senator Joni Ernst. Ernst met with Hegseth yesterday saying they had a thorough conversation. Now Hegseth can only afford to lose the support of 3 senators. He'll be back on Capitol Hill today and is expected to meet next week with senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, 2 key votes. Andrew?
Christian, thank you. The Russian woman accused of boarding a Delta plane and flying from New York to Paris without a ticket is now under arrest. She was flown back to the US last night and taken into FBI custody. She's due in court today. Delta is blaming a deviation from standard procedures for allowing her to get on that flight last week, but the airline is not elaborating.
The TSA says the woman accessed the line reserved for the flight crew and then mixed in with other passengers. It's still unclear how she avoided ID checks.
Now to an issue that's front and center in the culture wars. The Supreme Court hearing arguments about transgender care for teenagers, care that includes treatments like puberty blockers. Can a state ban them?
100 gathered at the supreme court as the justices heard arguments in a case that could determine access to health care for transgender teens. At issue, a Tennessee law banning gender affirming care, such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for transgender minors. Opponents say the law discriminates on the basis of sex, who can receive certain medical treatments.
This is a law on a space that does not subject boys and girls to equal treatment.
Opponents saying an adolescent assigned female at birth cannot receive puberty blockers or testosterone to live as a male, but an adolescent assigned male at birth can. But the court's conservative majority seemed inclined to leave the decision up to the states.
The constitution leaves that question, to the people's representatives rather than to 9, people, none of whom is a doctor.
Medical treatments for trans children have been endorsed by major medical associations as being beneficial, but justice Samuel Alito and others raised doubts about the evidence and cited European countries who reversed course and are now restricting the treatments. The liberal justices expressed concern that limiting this kind of care could cause harm.
Some children suffer incredibly with gender dysphoria, don't they? Yes.
It's a very serious
medical condition. Some attempt suicide?
Yes.
A ruling from the court is expected next June.
Alright. Time now for your Thursday weather.
Good morning. We have a burst of rain and snow along I 95 briefly in the morning as an arctic front tears through. Snow squalls will accompany the arctic front a little farther north with a brief burst of snow that will drop visibility and cover the ground. So be careful out there. The roads are gonna be dangerous.
We will have a widespread lake effect snow down with the Lake Erie, Lake Ontario. Some areas again with another foot, foot and a half of snow. It'll be cold behind the front, a high of only 19 in Minneapolis, 28 in Chicago. Frac u weather. I'm Jeff Cornish for ABC News.
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Amazon has been hit with a lawsuit accused of providing slower service to 2 low income neighborhoods in Washington DC. The suit filed by a local district attorney claims Amazon is violating the consumer protection law by misleading customers, charging the same prime membership fee for delayed deliveries. Amazon calls the allegations categorically false. A spokesperson says the company had to adjust routes and delivery times due to concerns about driver safety.
Now to Washington, the battle over airline fees. Critics call them junk fees. A turbulent hearing on Capitol Hill over the fees that make your airline ticket more expensive.
Nobody enjoys flying into airlines. It's a it's a disaster. You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You harass them to death.
A senate subcommittee grilling airline executives over the fees charged for early boarding, better seats, and other conveniences, voicing many travelers' frustrations.
They feel with more than understandable justification that they are piggy banks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees that seem to have no connection to any cost that the airlines incur.
Senators claim there's a lack of transparency, saying the vague pricing makes it hard for customers to budget.
We're all
captives on your airplanes at a certain point. And you just say, you wanna pick a seat. We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
But executives rebuting those claims.
Optional services by definition are not so called junk fees as optional services are not required to travel.
It has never been more affordable to fly. Over time, overall air la airfares have gone down.
Senators also claim some budget airlines have run a kind of bounty program, paying employees extra to stop passengers if their bags fail to meet certain requirements.
Your airlines are paying 1,000,000 of dollars to your employees to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Government data shows when adjusted for inflation, airfare has fallen by about 30% in recent decades, but that does not include fees. Whether this hearing leads to any changes remains to be seen.
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Back now with a close call for these men in Hawaii, the huge waves slamming the rocks where they were standing. All 3 men survived, but suffered serious cuts from the rocks and the coral.
In New Hampshire, a snowboarder triggered this avalanche and then managed to outpace the rushing snow on Mount Washington. Experts say it was really lucky because this avalanche hit at a low angle and was moving relatively slowly.
Well, efforts to rescue a grandmother apparently swallowed by a sinkhole in Western Pennsylvania are now being described as a recovery mission. Officials say it's unlikely the 64 year old is still alive. She was reported missing early Tuesday, hours after leaving home with her granddaughter to look for her cat. The granddaughter was found unharmed in their car. Officials believe the hole opened up where the woman had been standing above an abandoned coal mine.
Well, it turns out America has a math problem. That's according to education experts reviewing the latest test scores showing 4th and 8th graders falling behind. Here's ABC's Andrea Fujii.
New evidence this morning that American children are falling behind in math. In some cases, way behind.
The results are sobering.
Scores from the test called trends in international mathematics and science study found from between 2019 and 2023, American 4th graders dropped 18 points in math. 8th graders dropped 27 points.
We started this assessment in 1995, so we have essentially we have erased, the gains that, we were seeing for for decades.
Globally, the US scoring only mid pack, easily surpassed by countries in Asia and Europe. Experts point to many reasons, including COVID when education was disrupted in the US for longer than many other countries.
This decline that we're we're seeing was was there in 2015. So all of this cannot be blamed on COVID. We have, been struggling with this declining scores, particularly in math, for a while.
Experts say too many kids are missing class. About 17% are described as often absent.
We need to focus on the students that have been, struggling for a while now, and that is where I I I wanna leave it for, as a country to sort of ponder.
Another possible concern, boys perform better than girls in both math and science, reopening a gender gap that had previously closed. Rhiannon, Andrew.
Andrea, thank you. In sports, a major upset in college basketball already. Unranked Creighton beating number 1 Kansas last night, 76 to 63. Fans rushing onto the court to celebrate. Creighton beat top ranked Yukon last season.
Rock chalk Jayhawk. Coming up, the mission to airlift a group of sheep who were in danger.
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Consumer advocates condemned the plan, saying access to basic landlines is critical for the poor and for seniors.
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The ancient Japanese sport is growing in popularity in part because of a TV series, so they're bringing the sport to London. It's only the second time an elite sumo tournament will be held outside of Japan.
And finally, wildlife officials in Texas have taken a rather drastic step to save a herd of endangered sheep.
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Checking more top stories now. Sources say police investigating the fatal shooting of a health insurance CEO in New York found writings on the shell casings with the words deny, defend, and depose, possible clues to a motive.
The shooter was still on the run overnight.
The justice department has found that Memphis police routinely use excessive force and discriminate against black people. The investigation began after the beating death of Tire Nichols by 5 officers.
Officials now say at least 8 US telecom firms have been compromised by a Chinese hacking operation. Hackers gained access to phone calls and text messages. They are recommending people use encrypted messaging apps.
A new record for Bitcoin. The digital currency has topped a $100,000 after president-elect Trump chose a cryptocurrency supporter to lead the SEC.
Today's weather, snow and strong winds push into the northeast, and frigid air follows with wind chills below 0 in the Midwest, rain on the Gulf Coast.
And finally, the end of an era at the dodo, the home of animal videos.
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Growing up, Joanna Zelman's love of animals was always encouraged by her father Jared. Just listen to how many pets they had.
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Kinda think she's a dog, and I do too.
Well, good call nurturing that passion because it led to an accomplished career for Joanna. About 10 years ago, she became 1 of the earliest employees and eventually the executive producer of a social media brand you probably know called the dodo. Over the past decade, the dodo has become 1 of the most famous providers of animal videos that make you go, ow.
It looks too good.
However, Joanna's time with the dodo is soon coming to a close. And as she looks back, there's 1 costar from her videos that she's especially proud to have featured. It started in 2016 when her father, a semi retired doctor and volunteer ambulance driver, led Facebook live workshops on how to make DIY dog toys.
It was just running inside of this, like, fluff in a pipe.
But perhaps their most famous clip together was about 3 years ago when Joanne was at her childhood home in Connecticut and found a skunk's tail sticking out of a pipe.
This is gonna be interesting.
With the help of her father and the encouragement of animal control, Joanna had to gently pull the skunk out of the pipe. Clearly, he was grateful because she did not receive a stinky shower afterwards.
He really, like, looked right in my eyes, and I don't know. It it did feel like he kind of understood.
They also recently transported calves from a farm to an animal sanctuary together for a video that could perhaps be their final post for the dodo. Of course, though, it does not sound like they'll ever stop loving and helping animals as a team. We've
just gotten to have so many fun adventures together, and I feel really lucky for that.
Jared said he realized how much his daughter loved animals when Joanna was in 1st grade. She came home 1 day and said, dad, you didn't tell me chicken came from chickens. I can't eat that anymore. And, guys, she has not eaten meat since.
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Right now on Good Morning America First Look, new details about the suspect on the run overnight accused of gunning down the CEO of a major health insurance company on a New York sidewalk. Sources say writing has been found on the bullet casing, what they reveal, the potential clues about a motive for the brazen attack, and questions as to why the CEO and father of 2 had no security.
Also overnight, new clues after 2 young boys, ages 56, are shot at this California elementary school. What police are now saying about the adult shooter.
A weather
alert for the morning commute. An arctic blast
bringing even more snow and heavy winds for the Midwest and Northeast. Wind chills plunging. What to expect this morning?
Amazon under fire. The company responds to a new lawsuit claiming it secretly slowed down deliveries to certain neighborhoods.
America's math problem. The new test scores showing kids falling behind. In some cases, way behind. What's being blamed?
End of the line? The new announcement pulling the plug on the landline phone.
Caught on camera, a snow border triggering an avalanche and then forced to outrun it.
And the new smash hit from Taylor Swift, but it's not a song.
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to you. We begin with breaking news overnight into the investigation into the brazen killing of a CEO in New York City.
Sources tell ABC News police have found messages on the bullet casings that were recovered at the scene. We're also seeing new images of the suspect, but overnight, the manhunt and the search for a motive continue. Overnight, new video of what appears to be the man who shot and killed a top health insurance CEO in New York City before the attack carrying what appears to be an ebike battery possibly used in the getaway. Around 20 minutes later, police say the gunman was seen on surveillance video approaching UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, shooting the 50 year old father of 2 multiple times before an investors conference. The gun jamming, but he clears the barrel and fires again before running through an alley, jumping on a bike, and fleeing into Central Park.
From watching the video, it does seem that he's proficient in the use of firearms as he was able to clear the malfunctions pretty quickly.
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
Sources now say bullet casings recovered at the scene have writing on them, including the words deny, defend, and depose. But police overnight not identifying a motive for the attack. Thompson's widow telling NBC he had received threats, but saying she doesn't know the details. UnitedHealth is the largest private health insurer in the US and made headlines recently after a massive cyberattack and for its controversial plan to buy a rival home health provider. Among companies in the health insurance market, UnitedHealth ranks highest when it comes to the percentage of claims denied, nearly twice the industry average.
The brazen attack raising questions as to why Thompson, the leader of such a large corporation, did not have a security team. In addition to the bullet casings, police say they've recovered a water bottle and candy wrapper near the scene and a cell phone. The question now, was it the suspect's phone or a burner phone?
It takes a while to develop forensics into a profile for DNA or fingerprint analysis. They already collected these things that are looking. The telephone is probably the easiest way to do it, and they're looking at that now, breaking it down. We they believe all these things belong to the shooter. So he wasn't the professional area that everybody thought he was.
Detectives are working to figure out if the suspect prepositioned a bike somewhere near the crime scene for his getaway.
2 small boys are in extremely critical condition this morning after a gunman opened fire at their elementary school in Northern California. Investigators say gunfire broke out in the small town of Palermo, which is north of Sacramento. The victims are just 56 years old. Police say the shooter died by suicide, and he may have targeted the Christian school after speaking with school officials about possibly enrolling a family member.
We have received some information that he may have targeted this school because of its affiliation with the 7th day Adventist Church.
Police say the suspect's meeting with the school administrator before the shooting raised no alarms. The sheriff is now asking for help finding a gray car that was possibly seen dropping off the shooter.
Well, the weather is making news across parts of the Midwest and the Northeast right now. A fast moving Clipper system could drop 20 inches of snow in some areas that have already had feet of snow on the ground, while rain and heavy wind are expected along the I 95 corridor today. Visibility was down to 0 here in Minnesota yesterday. 1 man was killed in a crash. Wind chills are below 0 in parts of the Midwest, and the National Guard has been clearing snow in Erie, Pennsylvania where they're bracing for even more.
We'll check your full forecast in just a few moments.
In Washington, Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight and to be confirmed as secretary of defense. He is addressing claims of sexual misconduct and alcohol abuse while insisting that president-elect Trump still supports his nomination. ABC's Christiane Cordero has the latest. Christiane, good morning.
Rhiannon, good morning. Pete Hegseth is defiant, saying he will not drink if he gets the job. Even his mother is going on TV to defend him. Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere, insisting he has president-elect Trump's support in his fight to be confirmed as secretary of defense.
He said keep going too frightened. Find your way. Here in this hallway. Hegseth facing a barrage of new
questions about allegations of sexual misconduct,
alcohol abuse, and financial mismanagement in his prior jobs. What you're seeing
right now
with me
is the art of the smear.
Hegseth says he welcomes an FBI background check.
What the media is doing right now is a is a witch hunt. It's it's trial by false accusation and lies. The FBI is gonna look through what and if they do their job properly, which I fully expect they will, they'll talk to everybody and get the full story and a full understanding. That's a report I welcome.
The former Fox News anchor making new appeals to senators to gain support, saying while he does not have an alcohol problem, he promises to give up drinking if he gets the job.
He offered up to me, and I know he has with other senators too that he's not drinking. And that's not something he's gonna do, when confirmed here.
Hegseth also leaning on his mother to make the case. Penelope Hegseth wrote an email to her son in 2018 calling him an abuser of women, later apologizing, saying it was an emotional time. She says her son is a changed man.
I would just say that some of those some of those, attachments or descriptions are just not true, especially anymore.
Sources have said Trump is considering possibly replacing Hegseth with Florida governor Ron DeSantis, Tennessee senator Bill Hagerty, or Iowa senator Joni Ernst. Ernst met with Hegseth yesterday saying they had a thorough conversation. Now Hegseth can only afford to lose the support of 3 senators. He'll be back on Capitol Hill today and is expected to meet next week with senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, 2 key votes. Andrew?
Christian, thank you. The Russian woman accused of boarding a Delta plane and flying from New York to Paris without a ticket is now under arrest. She was flown back to the US last night and taken into FBI custody. She's due in court today. Delta is blaming a deviation from standard procedures for allowing her to get on that flight last week, but the airline is not elaborating.
The TSA says the woman accessed the line reserved for the flight crew and then mixed in with other passengers. It's still unclear how she avoided ID checks.
Now to an issue that's front and center in the culture wars. The Supreme Court hearing arguments about transgender care for teenagers. Care that includes treatments like puberty blockers. Can a state ban them?
100 gathered at the Supreme Court as the justices heard arguments in a case that could determine access to health care for transgender teens. At issue, a Tennessee law banning gender affirming care, such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for transgender minors. Opponents say the law discriminates on the basis of sex, who can receive certain medical treatments.
This is a law on its face that does not subject boys and girls to equal treatment.
Opponents saying an adolescent assigned female at birth cannot receive puberty blockers or testosterone to live as a male, but an adolescent assigned male at birth can. But the court's conservative majority seemed inclined to leave the decision up to the states.
The constitution leaves that question, to the people's representatives rather than to 9, people, none of whom is a doctor.
Medical treatments for trans children have been endorsed by major medical associations as being beneficial, but justice Samuel Alito and others raised doubts about the evidence and cited European countries who reversed course and are now restricting the treatments. The liberal justices expressed concern that limiting this kind of care could cause harm.
Some children suffer incredibly with gender dysphoria, don't they?
Yes. It's a very serious
medical condition. Some attempt suicide?
Yes.
A ruling from the court is expected next June.
Alright. Time now for your Thursday weather.
Good morning. We have a burst of rain and snow along I 95 briefly in the morning as an arctic front tears through. Snow squalls will accompany the arctic front a little farther north with a brief burst of snow that will drop visibility and cover the ground. So be careful out there. The roads are gonna be dangerous.
We will have a widespread lake effect snow down with the Lake Erie, Lake Ontario. Some areas again with another foot foot and a half of snow. It'll be cold behind the front, a high of only 19 in Minneapolis, 28 in Chicago. For acuweather, I'm Jeff Cornish for ABC News.
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Nobody enjoys flying in your airlines. It's a it's a disaster. You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You harass them to death. A
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They feel with more than understandable justification that they are piggy banks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees that seem to have no connection to any cost that the airlines incur.
Senators claim there's a lack of transparency, saying the vague pricing makes it hard for customers to budget.
We're all captives on your airplanes at a certain point. And you just say, you wanna pick a seat. We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
But executives rebuting those claims.
Optional services by definition are not so called junk fees as optional services are not required to travel.
It has never been more affordable to fly. Over time, overall air airfares have gone down.
Senators also claim some budget airlines have run a kind of bounty program, paying employees extra to stop passengers if their bags fail to meet certain requirements.
Your airlines are paying 1,000,000 of dollars to your employees to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Government data shows when adjusted for inflation, airfare has fallen by about 30% in recent decades, but that does not include fees. Whether this hearing leads to any changes remains to be seen.
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Also ahead, not making the grade, just how far American students are falling behind, and what's being blamed.
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In New Hampshire, a snowboarder triggered this avalanche and then managed to outpace the rushing snow on Mount Washington. Experts say it was really lucky because this avalanche hit at a low angle and was moving relatively slowly.
Well, efforts to rescue a grandmother apparently swallowed by a sinkhole in Western Pennsylvania are now being described as a recovery mission. Officials say it's unlikely the 64 year old is still alive. She was reported missing early Tuesday, hours after leaving home with her granddaughter to look for her cat. The granddaughter was found unharmed in their car. Officials believe the hole opened up where the woman had been standing above an abandoned coal mine.
Well, it turns out America has a math problem. That's according to education experts reviewing the latest test scores showing 4th and 8th graders falling behind. Here's ABC's Andrea Fujii.
New evidence this morning that American children are falling behind in math. In some cases, way behind.
The results are sobering.
Scores from the test called trends in international mathematics and science study found from between 2019 and 2023, American 4th graders dropped 18 points in math. 8th graders dropped 27 points.
We started this assessment in 1995, so we have essentially we have erased, the gains that, we were seeing for for decades.
Globally, the US scoring only mid pack, easily surpassed by countries in Asia and Europe. Experts point to many reasons, including COVID when education was disrupted in the US for longer than many other countries.
This decline that we're we're seeing was was there in 2015. So all of this cannot be blamed on COVID. We have, been struggling with this declining scores, particularly in math, for a while.
Experts say too many kids are missing class. About 17% are described as often absent.
We need to focus on these students that have been, struggling for a while now, and that is where I I I wanna leave it for, as a country to sort of ponder.
Another possible concern, boys perform better than girls in both math and science, reopening a gender gap that had previously closed. Rhiannon, Andrew.
Andrea, thank you. In sports, a major upset in college basketball already. Unranked Creighton beating number 1 Kansas last night, 76 to 63. Fans rushing onto the court to celebrate. Creighton beat top ranked Yukon last season.
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Time to check the pulse, and we begin with Taylor Swift putting her Midas touch on the publishing world.
Yes. She is gold. Her era's tour book is the biggest book launch of the year, selling more than 800,000 copies in its first 2 days. And even more impressive, this book was only sold through Target.
The photo filled book commemorating her tour is 3999. The only bigger nonfiction book launch was when former president Obama wrote his memoir. Alright. Next, home phones may be going the way of ice boxes and sundials.
Yeah. AT and T is now confirming it will phase out most
of its traditional landline service by 2029. It says the copper infrastructure is outdated, and it's expensive to maintain. AT and T landline serves 21 states, and only 1, California, will get to keep the service.
Consumer advocates condemned the plan, saying access to basic landlines is critical for the poor and for seniors.
Next, a new solar paint could keep electric cars charged up for longer.
Mercedes is developing a paint that can cover the entire body of the car. It's only a few micrometers thick, making it more flexible than solar panels. A solar paint could charge an EV battery at all times. Wow. Next, sumo wrestling is having a moment.
The ancient Japanese sport is growing in popularity in part because of a TV series, so they're bringing the sport to London. It's only the second time an elite sumo tournament will be held outside of Japan.
And finally, wildlife officials in Texas have taken a rather drastic step to save a herd of endangered sheep.
They are okay, but here's what they did. The sheep were sedated, and then look at this. They were airlifted by helicopter, which is
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from an area where they had been exposed to disease from a different species of sheep. So the bighorns, that's what they're called, they are now in a spot where they can roam free without any risk.
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a motive. The shooter was still on the run overnight.
The justice department has found that Memphis police routinely use excessive force and discriminate against black people. The investigation began after the beating death of Tire Nichols by 5 officers.
Officials now say at least 8 US telecom firms have been compromised by a Chinese hacking operation. Hackers gained access to phone calls and text messages. They are recommending people use encrypted messaging apps.
A new record for Bitcoin. The digital currency has topped a $100,000 after president-elect Trump chose a cryptocurrency supporter to lead the SEC.
Today's weather, snow and strong winds push into the northeast, and frigid air follows with wind chills below 0 in the Midwest, rain on the Gulf Coast.
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Growing up, Joanna Zelman's love of animals was always encouraged by her father Jared. Just listen to how many pets they had.
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Something like that.
Kara thinks she's a dog, and I do too.
Well, good call nurturing that passion because it led to an accomplished career for Joanna. About 10 years ago, she became 1 of the earliest employees and eventually the executive producer of a social media brand you probably know called the dodo. Over the past decade, the dodo has become 1 of the most famous providers of animal videos that make you go, ow.
She loves to go.
However, Joanna's time with the dodo is soon coming to a close. And As she looks back, there's 1 costar from her videos that she's especially proud to have featured. It started in 2016 when her father, a semi retired doctor and volunteer ambulance driver, led Facebook live workshops on how to make DIY dog toys.
It was just running into this, like, fluff in a pipe.
But perhaps their most famous clip together was about 3 years ago when Joanna was at her childhood home in Connecticut and found a skunk's tail sticking out of a pipe.
This is gonna be interesting.
With the
help of her father and the encouragement of animal control, Joanna had to gently pull the skunk out of the pipe. Clearly, he was grateful because she did not receive a stinky shower afterwards.
He really, like, looked right in my eyes, and I don't know. It it did feel like he kind of understood.
They also recently transported calves from a farm to an animal sanctuary together for a video that could perhaps be their final post for the dodo. Of course, though, it does not sound like they'll ever stop loving and helping animals as a team.
We've just gotten to have so many fun adventures together, and I feel really lucky for that.
Jared said he realized how much his daughter loved animals when Joanna was in 1st grade. She came home 1 day and said, dad, you didn't tell me chicken came from chickens. I can't eat that anymore. And, guys, she has not eaten meat since.
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Right now on Good Morning America First Look, new details about the suspect on the run overnight accused of gunning down the CEO of a major health insurance company on a New York sidewalk. Sources say writing has been found on the bullet casing, what they reveal, the potential clues about a motive for the brazen attack, and questions as to why the CEO and father of 2 had no security.
Also overnight, new clues after 2 young boys, ages 56, are shot at this California elementary school. What police are now saying about the adult shooter.
A weather alert for the morning commute. An arctic blast bringing even more snow and heavy winds for the Midwest and Northeast. Wind chills plunging. What to expect this morning?
Amazon under fire. The company responds to a new lawsuit claiming it secretly slowed down deliveries to certain neighborhoods.
America's math problem. The new test scores showing kids falling behind. In some cases, way behind. What's being blamed?
End of the line? The new announcement pulling the plug on the landline phone.
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We begin with breaking news overnight into the investigation into the brazen killing of a CEO in New York City.
Sources tell ABC News police have found messages on the bullet casings that were recovered at the scene. We're also seeing new images of the suspect, but overnight, the manhunt and the search for a motive continue. Overnight, new video of what appears to be the man who shot and killed a top health insurance CEO in New York City before the attack carrying what appears to be an ebike battery possibly used in the getaway. Around 20 minutes later, police say the gunman was seen on surveillance video approaching UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, shooting the 50 year old father of 2 multiple times before an investors conference. The gun jamming, but he clears the barrel and fires again before running through an alley, jumping on a bike, and fleeing into Central Park.
From watching the video, it does seem that he's proficient in the use of firearms as he was able to clear the malfunctions pretty quickly.
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
Sources now say bullet casings recovered at the scene have writing on them, including the words deny, defend, and depose. But police overnight not identifying a motive for the attack. Thompson's widow telling NBC he had received threats, but saying she doesn't know the details. UnitedHealth is the largest private health insurer in the US and made headlines recently after a massive cyberattack and for its controversial plan to buy a rival home health provider. Among companies in the health insurance market, UnitedHealth ranks highest when it comes to the percentage of claims denied, nearly twice the industry average.
The brazen attack raising questions as to why Thompson, the leader of such a large corporation, did not have a security team. In addition to the bullet casings, police say they've recovered a water bottle and candy wrapper near the scene and a cell phone. The question now, was it the suspect's phone or a burner phone?
It takes a while to develop forensics into a profile for DNA or fingerprint analysis. They already collected these things that are looking. The telephone is probably the easiest way to do it, and they're looking at that now, breaking it down. We they believe all these things belong to the shooter. So he wasn't the professional area that everybody thought he was.
Detectives are working to figure out if the suspect pre positioned a bike somewhere near the crime scene for his getaway.
2 small boys are in extremely critical condition this morning after a gunman opened fire at their elementary school in Northern California. Investigators say gunfire broke out in the small town of Palermo, which is north of Sacramento. The victims are just 56 years old. Police say the shooter died by suicide, and he may have targeted the Christian school after speaking with school officials about possibly enrolling a family member.
We have received some information that he may have targeted this school because of its affiliation with the 7th day Adventist Church.
Police say the suspect's meeting with the school administrator before the shooting raised no alarms. The sheriff is now asking for help finding a gray car that was possibly seen dropping off the shooter.
Well, the weather is making news across parts of the Midwest and the Northeast right now. A fast moving Clipper system could drop 20 inches of snow in some areas that have already have feet of snow on the ground, while rain and heavy wind are expected along the I 95 corridor today. Visibility was down to 0 here in Minnesota yesterday. 1 man was killed in a crash. Wind chills are below 0 in parts of the Midwest, and the National Guard has been clearing snow in Erie, Pennsylvania where they're bracing for even more.
We'll check your full forecast in just a few moments.
In Washington, Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight and to be confirmed as secretary of defense. He is addressing claims of sexual misconduct and alcohol abuse while insisting that president-elect Trump still supports his nomination. ABC's Christiane Cordero has the latest. Christiane, good morning.
Rhiannon, good morning. Pete Hegseth is defiant, saying he will not drink if he gets the job. Even his mother is going on TV to defend him. Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere, insisting he has president-elect Trump's support in his fight to be confirmed as secretary of defense.
He said keep going. Keep fighting. Find your way. Here in this all the way.
Why would I back down if all the senior fighters?
Hegseth facing a barrage of new questions about allegations of sexual misconduct, alcohol abuse, and financial mismanagement in his prior jobs.
What you're seeing right now with me is the art of the smear.
Hegseth says he welcomes an FBI background check.
What the media is doing right now is a is witch hunt. It's it's trial by false accusation and lies. The FBI is gonna look through what and if they do their job properly, which I fully expect they will, they'll talk to everybody and get the full story and a full understanding. That's a report I welcome.
The former Fox News anchor making new appeals to senators to gain support, saying while he does not have an alcohol problem, he promises to give up drinking if he gets the job.
He offered up to me, and I know he has with other senators too that he's not drinking, and that's not something he's gonna do,
when confirmed here. Hegseth also leaning on his mother to make the case. Penelope Hegseth wrote an email to her son in 2018, calling him an abuser of women, later apologizing, saying it was an emotional time. She says her son is a changed man.
I would just say that some of those some of those, attachments or descriptions are just not true, especially anymore.
Sources have said Trump is considering possibly replacing Hegseth with Florida governor Ron DeSantis, Tennessee senator Bill Hagerty, or Iowa senator Joni Ernst. Ernst met with Hegseth yesterday, saying they had a thorough conversation. Now Hegseth can only afford to lose the support of 3 senators. He'll be back on Capitol Hill today and is expected to meet next week with senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, 2 key votes. Andrew?
Christian, thank you. The Russian woman accused of boarding a Delta plane and flying from New York to Paris without a ticket is now under arrest. She was flown back to the US last night and taken into FBI custody. She's due in court today. Delta is blaming a deviation from standard procedures for allowing her to get on that flight last week, but the airline is not elaborating.
The TSA says the woman accessed the line reserved for the flight crew and then mixed in with other passengers. It's still unclear how she avoided ID checks.
Now to an issue that's front and center in the culture wars. The Supreme Court hearing arguments about transgender care for teenagers, care that includes treatments like puberty blockers. Can a state ban them?
100 gathered at the supreme court as the justices heard arguments in a case that could determine access to health care for transgender teens. At issue, a Tennessee law banning gender affirming care, such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for transgender minors. Opponents say the law discriminates on the basis of sex, who can receive certain medical treatments.
This is a law on its face that does not subject boys and girls to equal treatment.
Opponents saying an adolescent assigned female at birth cannot receive puberty blockers or testosterone to live as a male, but an adolescent assigned male at birth can. But the court's conservative majority seemed inclined to leave the decision up to the states.
The constitution leaves that question, to the people's representatives rather than to 9, people, none of whom is a doctor.
Medical treatments for trans children have been endorsed by major medical associations as being beneficial, but justice Samuel Alito and others raised doubts about the evidence and cited European countries who reversed course and are now restricting the treatments. The liberal justices expressed concern that limiting this kind of care could cause harm.
Some children suffer incredibly with gender dysphoria, don't they?
Yes. It's a very serious medical
condition. Some attempt suicide?
Yes.
A ruling from the court is expected next June.
Alright. Time now for your Thursday weather.
Good morning. We have a burst of rain and snow along I 95 briefly in the morning as an arctic front tears through. Snow squalls will accompany the arctic front a little farther north with a brief burst of snow that will drop visibility and cover the ground. So be careful out there. The roads are gonna be dangerous.
We will have a widespread lake effect snow down with the Lake Erie, Lake Ontario. Some areas again with another foot foot and a half of snow. It'll be cold behind the front, a high of only 19 in Minneapolis, 28 in Chicago. For acuweather, I'm Jeff Cornish for ABC News.
Coming up, airline executives grilled on Capitol Hill about the fees they're charging.
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Now to Washington in the battle over airline fees, critics call them junk fees. A turbulent hearing on Capitol Hill over the fees that make your airline ticket more expensive.
Nobody enjoys flying in your airlines. It's a it's a disaster. You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You harass them to death.
A senate subcommittee grilling airline executives over the fees charged for early boarding, better seats, and other conveniences, voicing many travelers' frustrations.
They feel with more than understandable justification that they are piggy banks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees that seem to have no connection to any cost that the airlines incur.
Senators claim there's a lack of transparency, saying the vague pricing makes it hard for customers to budget.
We're all captives on your airplanes at a certain point, and you just say, you wanna pick a seat. We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
But executives rebuting those claims.
Optional services by definition are not so called junk fees as optional services are not required to travel.
It has never been more affordable to fly. Over time, overall air airfares have gone down.
Senators also claim some budget airlines have run a kind of bounty program, paying employees extra to stop passengers if their bags fail to meet certain requirements.
Your airlines are paying 1,000,000 of dollars to your employees to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Government data shows when adjusted for inflation, airfare has fallen by about 30% in recent decades, but that does not include fees. Whether this hearing leads to any changes remains to be seen.
A lot of eyes will be watching that 1. Coming up, the video as a snowboarder triggers an avalanche.
Also ahead, not making the grade, just how far American students are falling behind, and what's being blamed.
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Well, it turns out America has a math problem. That's according to education experts reviewing the latest test scores showing 4th and 8th graders falling behind. Here's ABC's Andrea Fujii.
New evidence this morning that American children are falling behind in math. In some cases, way behind.
The results are sobering.
Scores from the test called trends in international mathematics and science study found from between 2019 and 2023, American 4th graders dropped 18 points in math. 8th graders dropped 27 points.
We started this assessment in 1995, so we have essentially we have erased, the gains that, we were seeing for for decades.
Globally, Globally, the US scoring only mid pack, easily surpassed by countries in Asia and Europe. Experts point to many reasons, including COVID when education was disrupted in the US for longer than many other countries.
This decline that we're we're seeing was was there in 2015. So all of this cannot be blamed on COVID. We have, been struggling with this declining scores, particularly in math, for a while.
Experts say too many kids are missing class. About 17% are described as often absent.
We need to focus on the students that have been, struggling for a while now, and that is where I I I wanna leave it for, as a country to sort of ponder.
Another possible concern, boys perform better than girls in both math and science, reopening a gender gap that had previously closed. Rhiannon, Andrew.
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It's Thursday, December 5th. Could the law be in for a transition of its own? We start here. In a landmark case, transgender teenagers head to the Supreme Court.
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A new global report shows American scores plummeting. From ABC News, this is Start Here. I'm Brad Milke. When we talk about this year's election, we often talk about how it was decided by economics, by kitchen table issues. But let's not forget that Donald Trump was continuously hammering home another theme.
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Early on in the campaign, he staked out his position on transgender rights, namely that it's damaging to children to even consider the concept.
I'll ask congress to send a bill to my desk prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all 50 states. We're gonna get that.
That is a position that's becoming more and more mainstream in the Republican Party as more and more conservatives routinely use phrases like genital mutilation when describing what the American Medical Association would call gender affirming care. In fact, while many transgender folks say this type of care is life changing, even lifesaving, more and more conservative governors and legislators have passed laws banning these types of procedures for young people. And so yesterday, in what was seen as a defining moment for this country as it grapples with gender, a trans teenager took the state of Tennessee to the Supreme Court. ABC senior Washington reporter Devin Dwyer was in the courtroom for what could be 1 of the biggest cases of this term. Devin, before we even get into the arguments, can you just explain what this whole case is about?
Yeah. Brett, this case is about medical treatments for young adults in this country, more than 300,000 who identify as transgender. That means their gender assigned at birth differs from their sense of identity. 1 of the things that a lot of those kids struggle with in, accepting themselves as transgender is known as gender dysphoria. It's the distress, the feeling of that disconnect inside between your physical appearance and how you feel.
And for years, in this country, the medical establishment has supported interventions to treat that distress, comes in a number of forms, mental health treatment therapy, but also in some cases, the use of medications. 1st to delay puberty, to slow down changes to the body that can make that distress worse, and then hormone therapy to facilitate, a body's development to, you know, the identity that a person is feeling. For more than a decade, major medical associations from the American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, the Endocrine Society, and on and on have said that these treatments should be on the table as part of individually tailored interventions to help kids. After consultation with their doctors, their parents, and, of course, informed consent that, on a case by case basis, these treatments can be used. So what do you like to do for fun?
Well, I produce music as a hobby with my friends a little bit.
I was in Tennessee recently, which is where this case is from, to meet the family of Brian and Samantha Williams, parents of 2 teenagers. 1 of them, 16 year old LW. She goes by her initials.
I remember having a little bit of a feeling about it in maybe 4th grade, and I was definitely like, oh, man. I really do not wanna have facial hair.
She came out to her parents, as struggling with her gender identity when she was in 7th grade. It's
not very, comfortable being trapped in, because it just doesn't feel like you.
And she told them that, it was a horrible feeling inside of her body. She struggled with anxiety, with depression.
She would get so frustrated with us, like, all of us
asking questions, and let's take some time,
and let's talk through this. And
I was probably the 1 that was asking the most questions and had the most pushback on it. And, she said to me at a certain point, she was like, I I don't think you see me, and and it and it broke my heart. You know?
And after consultation, with her medical providers, her parents made the decision to take puberty blockers.
She's not suicidal, but she shouldn't have to be suicidal
Right.
To get the care that she needs. Yeah. And that when I when that really hit me, I was like, okay. Let's do blockers. Let's get moving.
Yeah. To let her pause for puberty, in their words, to spend some time grappling with what she was feeling and going through. And then eventually, with her consent, a year later, began taking estrogen, a a hormone therapy, to begin helping her body develop as a woman.
Yeah. I feel a lot better. I feel very I feel amazing after that. And I'm pretty you know, maybe it's just because the, gender dysphoria is so bad.
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But all of a sudden, Brad,
in 2023, the Tennessee legislature as their first priority, came out of the gate and banned those treatments categorically.
Let's press the brakes on these dangerous practices. Let's do our job, and let's protect those most vulnerable young Tennesseans. Thank you, mister speaker.
Even though they've been used for years, endorsed by American medical groups, said that they were, harmful and dangerous to children, that the science is uncertain, and they shut those treatments down.
Our state legislature had made such a big deal out of parental rights during COVID about masks and vaccines that parents should be able to decide these medical decisions for their children. And then Yeah. This is a medical decision for our child.
And the Williams family and other families, have had to had to scramble to continue the care that they say has made their lives significantly better.
Right. Although, you know, the argument from conservatives here is that, listen, we're talking about brain issues. Right? Like, this is dysphoria where you feel like you cannot match your body with your brain. Right?
Like, 2 different realities are being presented to you. You can't match them up. And but then you're using treatment that could have a permanent effect on your body because of what is going on in your brain. Maybe it's permanent, but maybe it's temporary. What where does the science land on that?
Alright. Critics of this care say that some of these parents are guilty of child abuse, of of child body mutilation by supporting this and putting their kids through this.
It's clear to me that the science of so called gender affirming care in children is unsettled at best, medical malpractice at worst.
And 1 of the critics in Tennessee, Brad, that was leading the charge on all of this was, senate Republican leader Jack Johnson.
We have a compelling interest as a state to put protections in place. We do that. You can't get a tattoo in the state of Tennessee if you're under the age of 18. We don't let you smoke cigarettes. We don't let you purchase or consume alcohol.
He is a father of family man. He's not a doctor, he concedes, but was very concerned about the damage, potential harm, he says, that these treatments were having on kids. What's your message to kids who are struggling with their gender identity and their parents and their doctors who are trying to find a way to address it. What do you tell them?
Well, first of all, we love you. We we we love these kids. We wanna make sure that they get treatment that they need and get them to adulthood. And and in Tennessee, that's the age of 18. That's the age of majority.
The science at the end of the day is still evolving in this space. There's no question about it, and groups on both sides say simply more study needs to be done, and that is what has complicated cases like this 1. So what does the science say? Well, you know, we look to the guidelines of the Endocrine Society, Brad, which, is a global, organization of medical specialists that deal with hormones. That is their primary specialty focused on regulating hormones in children and adults, and their guidelines based on 260 research studies recommend the use of medications, puberty blocking, and then hormone therapies, in tailored cases when a child is suffering from gender dysphoria.
At the same time, they encourage waiting until 18 to consider a gender affirming surgery, say, a general surgery or a facial surgery to help a child or a young adult rather become more like the person that they think. So this is really about these medications, which we should say have been used for decades in this country by cisgender kids, to treat all different sorts of treatment. So the drug safety is not really a question here. It's how the drugs are being used that's up for debate. And 1 more thing to point out, Brad, is that the European experience with these medications, has really colored how a lot of these states, more than 25 states in the United States, have now banned these treatments, and a lot of them have pointed to Europe.
The United Kingdom, Norway, Sweden, once at the forefront of these treatments, have in the recent years pulled back on the treatments. They have now deemphasized the use of puberty blockers and hormone therapies in their health systems in those countries, citing a lack of evidence. And so while they have not banned those treatments, they've pumped the brakes, and that is, given some license to conservatives to say we need to do that here.
Interesting. Okay. And so then what the the case that this teenager in Tennessee is bringing up, what she just wants to get rid of this law entirely, like strike it down?
Yeah. These 3 families, 1 of whom is the Williams family of Tennessee, backed by the Biden administration, asked the Supreme Court yesterday, to block this law, to say that it violates the constitution's equal protection clause because in their view, it discriminates on the basis of sex. According to the government, if you're a cisgender boy in Tennessee and the doctor says, you know, you're running a little behind on your puberty, here Here is some testosterone, that's okay in Tennessee.
But if
you're a transgender boy in Tennessee and a doctor says you're suffering from gender dysphoria, hey, here is some estrogen. That's not okay. Oh. And so what what the government alleges and the families alleged is that this is, textbook sex discrimination.
This statute on its face says you can't have medications inconsistent with sex. And no matter what you think about transgender discrimination generally, that's a sex based line.
Certainly, many of the court's conservatives were very wary of the sex discrimination argument, sympathetic to Tennessee.
Doesn't that make a stronger case for us to leave those determinations to, the legislative bodies rather than, try to determine them for ourselves?
You did hear, a number of justices, including Brett Kavanaugh, say this is given the the the murky science in his view. This is a flashing yellow light, if not a red light.
It strikes me as, you know, pretty heavy yellow light, if not red light, for this court to come in, the 9 of us, and to constitutionalize the whole area.
It was really justice Samuel Alito who was the harshest, about the science, really questioning here whether the benefits of these treatments have been borne out.
In almost all instances, the judgment at the present time of the health authorities in the United Kingdom and Sweden, is that the risks and dangers greatly outweigh the benefits.
The 3 liberal justices delivered a forceful rebuke of Tennessee's law. Justice Sonia Sotomayor calling out the horrific suffering that some of these children have.
It is a serious condition. 1 of the
petitioners in this case described throwing up every day, going almost mute because of his, because of their inability to speak in a voice that they could live with.
Justice Elena Kagan said that this whole law is imbued with sex, turns on sex, and is sex discrimination. But at the end of the day, Brad, we're gonna have to wait and see until June likely how the court will come out, in this really historic case. The first time the Supreme Court, took up a a law targeting transgender people, the first time the court heard from an openly transgender person, Chase Strangeo, argued on behalf of the Williams family, before the court. And, it was just an extraordinary moment in, in the courtroom.
Wow. The the the first transgender lawyer in the Supreme Court's history argues this case. And by the way, it comes at a moment where transgender teenagers, who are a still small minority in this country, feel ever more talked about by people who don't know them with this very intense rhetoric. A lot of them describe feeling like they don't have a country around them who supports them in any stage of their journey. So they could talk about feeling trapped.
Talk about dysphoria. That in itself has been so distressing for people in this community. Devin Dwyer, big case, big decision coming up in the spring. Thank you so much.
Thanks a lot, Brad.
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When you
think of assassinations, you think of political figures. Right? That's why top government officials get security details. But really, an assassination is any targeted killing of a person who's got an outsized impact on the world around them. So that can include activists, military leaders, celebrities, even the heads of private businesses.
Well, yesterday, when the CEO of America's largest health insurer was shot down in the streets of Manhattan, the immediate question was whether this was a random killing or a targeted assassination. Let's talk to ABC senior investigative correspondent, Aaron Kuchterski, who's been talking to New York law enforcement. Aaron, what do we know about this shooting?
This was a brazen assassination style killing for sure, Brad, and police say it unfolded in the heart of Midtown Manhattan just before the morning rush hour. It was about quarter to 7 in the morning when police said Brian Thompson walked across the street to the Hilton Hotel on Sixth Avenue, and a gunman had been lying in wait for several minutes.
The shooter steps onto the sidewalk from behind the car. He ignores numerous other pedestrians, approaches the victim from behind, and shoots him in the back. The shooter then walks toward the victim and continues to shoot.
He was rushed to the hospital. Didn't make it. He was pronounced dead at the hospital, and now there is this frantic manhunt all throughout New York and likely beyond to try and find the shooter.
Do we know who that would be and why he was there? I mean, it sounds like this guy knew what he was doing to an extent and was aiming for this executive. Right?
There's no question that police believe this was a targeted attack. They said there is no indication this was a random act of violence, but they don't know why. Did he have any known enemies or or anyone that you've been able to find so far?
Like I said, we're we're reaching out to law enforcement in Minnesota, and we're also interviewing his his coworkers and family members to see if there have been any specific threats against him in the past.
1 possible theory, Brad, is this resulted from some kind of a grudge either against UnitedHealthcare, the company, or against Thompson himself. His wife is just heartbroken and had not confirmed reports that the family had been threatened in any way. And we checked with a number of law enforcement agencies in Minnesota where Thompson lives, where UnitedHealthcare is based, and they say there are no reports of anyone threatening Thompson or his family, but police are still working to determine what exactly went on here.
When this guy clearly went to pains to conceal himself and and his route, how do you find him?
It's a good question because as soon as he escaped through an alleyway on foot, at some point, he grabs a bike and pedals into Central Park, and they have him on camera, police do, in certain locations. But then, of course, in the park, the trail may have gone cold. So they're still canvassing for video. They'd like to see this guy without a mask on. He was wearing what you might now call a COVID style face mask, and they're also looking for items from which they could extract DNA.
And there, Brad, they may have some clues. They picked up a water bottle and a couple of, you know, granola bar type wrappers that he appears to have purchased at a Starbucks before the shooting. They're hoping that will give them some clues as to who this guy is.
Are there any further threats either around New York or to, like I'm I'm wondering if health care workers should be on alert or other leaders of business. Like, some of these guys have bodyguards, but 1 of the things about New York is you really do see very important people just wandering around on the street.
None that we know of. Thompson travels without any executive protection. He was seen on video strolling across into the Hilton alone, at about quarter to 7 in the morning. He was there for an investor conference that was due to start about an hour later. The authorities went out of their way to to say that this was not random because it happened, you know, just 12 hours before 100 of thousands of people gathered just blocks away from where the shooting occurred to light the the Christmas tree in Rockefeller Center.
Wow.
And police wanted to make sure that that people felt safe coming to that event.
Alright. Aaron Katierski, bizarre moment here. Thank you so much.
Really stunning. Thanks,
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And 1 last thing. For years now, American students have not had the best rep when it comes to math, which a lot of journalists are sympathetic to. Many of us are notoriously bad at math. We probably brought down the nation's scores when we were kids. But yesterday, America got its report card back from an international math test, and it's worse than we thought.
The results for the United States are not great.
That's Liz Cohen. She's the policy director for FutureEd, an education research group at Georgetown University. She's breaking down the results of the study called TIMSS, Trends in International Mathematics and Science. It's given to 4th graders and 8th graders. In fact, Cohen has an 8th grader of her own.
In 8th grade, we have some algebraic concepts, geometry, data probability.
Global authorities put this out every 4 years or so. They did it in 2015, 2019, and now we're seeing results from 2023. And when these results were published yesterday, just about every expert called America's scores disturbing. The head of our National Center For Education Statistics, who works for the Department of Education, called the numbers alarming. Scores have plummeted.
Cohen says the top performers globally are Singapore, South Korea, and China. Then you've got countries like Japan and Great Britain and Turkey. The US is right in the middle, barely above average.
We're hanging out with Portugal and Cyprus and the Slovak Republic, which might not be the neighbors that we're used to or that we would aspire to be with.
But she adds the ranking is not even the most troubling thing here. Many of these countries in our part of the chart are at least improving. Our kids' scores are actively getting worse.
Now we are, in 8th grade in particular, really back where we started, below where we were in 1995 despite, you know, almost 30 years of intense education reform, 1,000,000,000 of dollars, both federal, state, philanthropic, all of that.
So why is this happening? Well, you might think this is all pandemic related. Certainly, virtual schooling and disjointed classes were not helping a couple years ago. But if you look at the data, this decline really started back in 2015.
It's really important to understand that, in both 4th and 8th grade, we've actually been declining since before the pandemic.
In fact, even in the last couple years, the number of students who are chronically absent still hasn't returned to pre pandemic levels. Lockdowns are long gone, and the kids still aren't back in school as often. And that could be contributing to another troubling trend.
The students who are doing pretty well in school in America are still doing pretty well. The students in the 75th percentile and above in America are doing about the same on these tests in both 4th 8th grade as they were 4 or 8 years ago. Where this decline is happening is the students at the bottom end of the achievement spectrum are doing even worse.
So how do you fix this? Well, she says there's no clean answer, but there are interesting data points. 1 theory is that a focus on reading has come at the expense of math skills. Another is that George w Bush's signature education law, No Child Left Behind, ended in 2015, right, when this decline started. Could school accountability be the answer to it all?
Cohen says there are lots of theories, but 1 thing is for certain, these scores are setting off alarm bells.
My big takeaway when I saw these numbers was that in 2021, as schools were reopening, we had this unifying sense of urgency that we had to pay attention to kids and students in learning in this country. That came hand in hand with a $122,000,000,000 investment from the federal government in COVID relief funds for public schools, and it really felt like this all hands on deck moment.
She says that urgency should not have ended the moment we put children back in classrooms. Once we told parents we have the tools to declare victory over COVID, if we are gonna turn these numbers around, she says, we're gonna have to change our formula.
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Look, new details about the suspect on the run overnight accused of gunning down the CEO of a major health insurance company on a New York sidewalk. Sources say writing has been found on the bullet casings, what they reveal, the potential clues about a motive for the brazen attack, and questions as to why the CEO and father of 2 had no security.
Also overnight, new clues after 2 young boys, ages 56, are shot at this California elementary school. What police are now saying about the adult shooter.
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We begin with breaking news overnight into the investigation into the brazen killing of a CEO in New York City.
Sources tell ABC News police have found messages on the bullet casings that were recovered at the scene. We're also seeing new images of the suspect, but overnight, the manhunt and the search for a motive continue. Overnight, new video of what appears to be the man who shot and killed a top health insurance CEO in New York City before the attack carrying what appears to be an ebike battery possibly used in the getaway. Around 20 minutes later, police say the gunman was seen on surveillance video approaching UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, shooting the 50 year old father of 2 multiple times before an investors conference. The gun jamming, but he clears the barrel and fires again before running through an alley, jumping on a bike, and fleeing into Central Park.
From watching the video, it does seem that he's proficient in the use of firearms as he was able to clear the malfunctions malfunctions pretty quickly.
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
Sources now say bullet casings recovered at the scene have writing on them, including the words deny, defend, and depose. But police overnight not identifying a motive for the attack. Thompson's widow telling NBC he had received threats, but saying she doesn't know the details. UnitedHealth is the largest private health insurer in the US and made headlines recently after a massive cyberattack and for its controversial plan to buy a rival home health provider. Among companies in the health insurance market, UnitedHealth ranks highest when it comes to the percentage of claims denied, nearly twice the industry average.
The brazen attack raising questions as to why Thompson, the leader of such a large corporation, did not have a security team. In addition to the bullet casings, police say they've recovered a water bottle and candy wrapper near the scene and a cell phone. The question now, was it the suspect's phone or a burner phone?
It takes a while to develop forensics into a profile for DNA or fingerprint analysis. They already collected these things that are looking. The telephone is probably the easiest way to do it, and they're looking at that now, breaking it down. We they believe all these things belong to the shooter. So he wasn't the professional area that everybody thought he was.
Detectives are working to figure out if the suspect prepositioned a bike somewhere near the crime scene for his getaway.
2 small boys are in extremely critical condition this morning after a gunman opened fire at their elementary school in Northern California. Investigators say gunfire broke out in the small town of Palermo, which is north of Sacramento. The victims are just 56 years old. Police say the shooter died by suicide, and he may have targeted the Christian school after speaking with school officials about possibly enrolling a family member.
We have received some information that he may have targeted this school because of its affiliation with the 7th day Adventist Church.
Police say the suspect's meeting with the school administrator before the shooting raised no alarms. The sheriff is now asking for help finding a gray car that was possibly seen dropping off the shooter.
Well, the weather is making news across parts of the Midwest and the Northeast right now. A fast moving Clipper system could drop 20 inches of snow in some areas that have already have feet of snow on the ground, while rain and heavy wind are expected along the I 95 corridor today. Visibility was down to 0 here in Minnesota yesterday. 1 man was killed in a crash. Wind chills are below 0 in parts of the Midwest, and the National Guard has been clearing snow in Erie, Pennsylvania where they're bracing for even more.
We'll check your full forecast in just a few moments.
In Washington, Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight and to be confirmed as secretary of defense. He is addressing claims of sexual misconduct and alcohol abuse while insisting that president-elect Trump still supports his nomination. ABC's Christiane Cordero has the latest. Christiane, good morning.
Rhiannon, good morning. Pete Hegseth is defiant, saying he will not drink if he gets the job. Even his mother is going on TV to defend him. Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere, insisting he has president-elect Trump's support in his fight to be confirmed as secretary of defense.
He said keep going. Keep fighting. Find your own way. Here in this hallway.
Why would I back down? I've always been a fighter.
Hegseth facing a barrage of new questions about allegations of sexual misconduct, alcohol abuse, and financial mismanagement in his prior jobs.
What you're seeing right now with me is the art of the smear.
Hegseth says he welcomes an FBI background check.
What the media is doing right now is a is a witch hunt. It's it's trial by false accusation and lies. The FBI is gonna look through what and if they do their job properly, which I fully expect they will, they'll talk to everybody and get the full story and a full understanding. That's a report I welcome.
The former Fox News anchor making new appeals to senators to gain support, saying while he does not have an alcohol problem, he promises to give up drinking if he gets the job.
He offered up to me, and I know what he has with other senators too that he's not drinking, and that's not something he's gonna do, when confirmed here.
Hegseth also leaning on his mother to make the case. Penelope Hegseth wrote an email to her son in 2018, calling him an abuser of women, later apologizing, saying it was an emotional time. She says her son is a changed man.
I would just say that some of those some of those, attachments or descriptions are just not true, especially anymore.
Sources have said Trump is considering possibly replacing Hegseth with Florida governor Ron DeSantis, Tennessee senator Bill Hagerty, or Iowa senator Joni Ernst. Ernst met with Hegseth yesterday, saying they had a thorough conversation. Now Hegseth can only afford to lose the support of 3 senators. He'll be back on Capitol Hill today and is expected to meet next week with senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, 2 key votes. Andrew?
Christian, thank you. The Russian woman accused of boarding a Delta plane and flying from New York to Paris without a ticket is now under arrest. She was flown back to the US last night and taken into FBI custody. She's due in court today. Delta is blaming a deviation from standard procedures for allowing her to get on that flight last week, but the airline is not elaborating.
The TSA says the woman accessed the line reserved for the flight crew and then mixed in with other passengers. It's still unclear how she avoided ID checks.
Now to an issue that's front and center in the culture wars. The Supreme Court hearing arguments about transgender care for teenagers, care that includes treatments like puberty blockers. Can a state ban them?
100 gathered at the Supreme Court as the justices heard arguments in a case that could determine access to health care for transgender teens. At issue, a Tennessee law banning gender affirming care, such as hormone therapy and puberty blockers for transgender minors. Opponents say the law discriminates on the basis of sex, who can receive certain medical treatments.
This is a law on its face that does not subject boys and girls to equal treatment.
Opponents saying an adolescent assigned female at birth cannot receive puberty blockers or testosterone to live as a male, but an adolescent assigned male at birth can. But the court's conservative majority seemed inclined to leave the decision up to the states.
The constitution leaves that question, to the people's representatives rather than to 9, people, none of whom is a doctor.
Medical treatments for trans children have been endorsed by major medical associations as being beneficial, but justice Samuel Alito and others raised doubts about the evidence and cited European countries who reversed course and are now restricting the treatments. The liberal justices expressed concern that limiting this kind of care could cause harm.
Some children suffer incredibly with gender dysphoria, don't they?
Yes. It's a very serious
medical condition. Some attempt suicide?
Yes.
A ruling from the court is expected next June.
Alright. Time now for your Thursday weather.
Good morning. We have a burst of rain and snow along I 95 briefly in the morning as an arctic front tears through. Snow squalls will accompany the arctic front a little farther north with a brief burst of snow that will drop visibility and cover the ground. So be careful out there. The roads are gonna be dangerous.
We will have a widespread lake effect snow down with the Lake Erie, Lake Ontario. Some areas again with another foot, foot and a half of snow. It'll be cold behind the front, a high of only 19 in Minneapolis, 28 in Chicago. For acuity weather, I'm Jeff Cornish for ABC News.
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In New Hampshire, a snowboarder triggered this avalanche and then managed to outpace the rushing snow on Mount Washington. Was really lucky because this avalanche hit at a low angle and was moving relatively slowly.
Well, efforts to rescue a grandmother apparently swallowed by a sinkhole in Western Pennsylvania are now being described as a recovery mission. Officials say it's unlikely the 64 year old is still alive. She was reported missing early Tuesday, hours after leaving home with her granddaughter to look for her cat. The granddaughter was found unharmed in their car. Officials believe the hole opened up where the woman had been standing above an abandoned coal mine.
Well, it turns out America has a math problem. That's according to education experts reviewing the latest test scores showing 4th and 8th graders falling behind. Here's ABC's Andrea Fujii.
New evidence this morning that American children are falling behind in math. In some cases, way behind.
The results are sobering.
Scores from the test called trends in international mathematics and science study found from between 2019 and 2023, American 4th graders dropped 18 points in math. 8th graders dropped 27 points.
We started this assessment in 1995, so we have essentially we have erased, the gains that, we were seeing for for decades.
Globally, the US scoring only mid pack, easily surpassed by countries in Asia and Europe. Experts point to many reasons, including COVID when education was disrupted in the US for longer than many other countries.
This decline that we're we're seeing was was there in 2015. So all of this cannot be blamed on COVID. We have, been struggling with this declining scores, particularly in math, for a while.
Experts say too many kids are missing class. About 17% are described as often absent.
We need to focus on the students that have been, struggling for a while now, and that is where I I I wanna leave it for, as a country to sort of ponder.
Another possible concern, boys perform better than girls in both math and science, reopening a gender gap that had previously closed. Rhiannon, Andrew.
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The ancient Japanese sport is growing in popularity in part because of a TV series, so they're bringing the sport to London. It's only the second time an elite sumo tournament will be held outside of Japan.
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Checking more top stories now. Sources say police investigating the fatal shooting of a health insurance CEO in New York found writings on the shell casings with the words deny, defend, and depose, possible clues to a motive.
The shooter was still on the run overnight.
The justice department has found that Memphis police routinely use excessive force and discriminate against black people. The investigation began after the beating death of Tire Nichols by 5 officers.
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However, Joanna's time with the dodo is soon coming to a close. And as she looks back, there's 1 costar from her videos that she's especially proud to have featured. It started in 2016 when her father, a semi retired doctor and volunteer ambulance driver, led Facebook live workshops on how to make DIY dog toys.
It was just running inside this, like, fluff in a pipe.
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It's Thursday, December 5th. Could the law be in for a transition of its own? We start here. In a landmark case, transgender teenagers head to the Supreme Court.
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What the science, the law, and the justices are all saying about a family's right to care. The CEO of a major health insurance company is shot dead in New York.
And now there is this frantic manhunt.
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The results for the United States are not great.
A new global report shows American scores plummeting. From ABC News, this is Start Here. I'm Brad Milke. When we talk about this year's election, we often talk about how it was decided by economics, by kitchen table issues. But let's not forget that Donald Trump was continuously hammering home another theme.
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Early on in the campaign, he staked out his position on transgender rights, namely that it's damaging to children to even consider the concept.
I'll ask congress to send a bill to my desk prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all 50 states. We're gonna get that.
That is a position that's becoming more and more mainstream in the Republican Party as more and more conservatives routinely use phrases like genital mutilation when describing what the American Medical Association would call gender affirming care. In fact, while many transgender folks say this type of care is life changing, even lifesaving, more and more conservative governors and legislators have passed laws banning these types of procedures for young people. And so yesterday, in what was seen as a defining moment for this country as it grapples with gender, a trans teenager took the state of Tennessee to the Supreme Court. ABC senior Washington reporter Devin Dwyer was in the courtroom for what could be 1 of the biggest cases of this term. Devin, before we even get into the arguments, can you just explain what this whole case is about?
Yeah. Brett, this case is about medical treatments for young adults in this country, more than 300,000 who identify as transgender. That means their gender assigned at birth differs from their sense of identity. 1 of the things that a lot of those kids struggle with in, accepting themselves as transgender is known as gender dysphoria. It's the distress, the feeling, of that disconnect inside between your physical appearance and how you feel.
And for years, in this country, the medical establishment has supported interventions to treat that distress, comes in a number of forms. Mental health treatment therapy, but also in some cases, the use of medications. 1st to delay puberty, to slow down changes to the body that can make that distress worse, and then hormone therapy to facilitate, a body's development to, you know, the identity that a person is feeling. For more than a decade, major medical associations from the American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, the Endocrine Society, and on and on have said that these treatments should be on the table as part of individually tailored interventions to help kids. After consultation with their doctors, their parents, and, of course, informed consent that, on a case by case basis, these treatments can be used.
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I was in Tennessee recently, which is where this case is from, to meet the family of Brian and Samantha Williams, the parents of 2 teenagers. 1 of them, 16 year old LW. She goes by her initials.
I remember having a little bit of a feeling about it in maybe 4th grade, and I was definitely like, oh, man. I really do not wanna have facial hair.
She came out to her parents, as struggling with her gender identity when she was in 7th grade. It's
not very, comfortable being trapped in, because it just doesn't feel like you.
And she told them that, it was a horrible feeling inside of her body. She struggled with anxiety, with depression.
She would get so frustrated with us, like, all of us
asking questions, and let's take some time,
and let's talk through this.
And I was probably the 1 that was asking the most questions
and had the most pushback on it. And, she said to me at a certain point, she was
like, I I don't think you see me, and and it and it broke my heart. You know?
And after consultation, with her medical providers, her parents made the decision to take puberty blockers.
She's not suicidal, but she shouldn't have to be suicidal
Right.
To get the care that she needs. Yeah. And that when I when that really hit me, I was like, okay. Let's do blockers. Let's get moving.
Yeah.
To let her pause her puberty, in their words, to spend some time grappling with what she was feeling and going through. And then eventually, with her consent, a year later, began taking estrogen, a a hormone therapy, to begin helping her body develop as a woman.
Yeah. I feel a lot better. I feel very I feel amazing after that. And I'm pretty you know, maybe it's just because the, gender dysphoria is so bad.
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It's 26. 6 days.
But all
of a sudden, Brad,
in 2023, the Tennessee legislature as their first priority, came out of the gate and banned those treatments categorically.
Let's press the brakes on these dangerous practices. Let's do our job, and let's protect those most vulnerable young Tennesseans. Thank you, mister speaker.
Even though they've been used for years endorsed by American medical groups, said that they were, harmful and dangerous to children, that the science is uncertain, and they shut those treatments down.
Our state legislature had made such a big deal out of parental rights during COVID about masks and vaccines that per parents should be able to decide these medical decisions for their children. And then Yeah. This is a medical decision for our child.
And the Williams family and other families, have had to had to scramble to continue the care that they say has made their lives significantly better.
Right. Although, you know, the argument from conservatives here is that listen. We're talking about brain issues. Right? Like, this is dysphoria where you feel like you cannot match your body with your brain.
Right? Like, 2 different realities are being presented to you. You can't match them up. And but then you're using treatment that could have a permanent effect on your body because of what is going on in your brain. Maybe it's permanent, but maybe it's temporary.
What where does the science land on that?
Alright. Critics of this care say that some of these parents are guilty of child abuse, of of child body mutilation by supporting this and putting their kids through this.
It's clear to me that the science of so called gender affirming care in children is unsettled at best, medical malpractice at worst.
And 1 of the critics in Tennessee, Brad, that was leading the charge on all of this was, senate Republican leader Jack Johnson.
We have a compelling interest as a state to put protections in place. We do that. You can't get a tattoo in the state of Tennessee if you're under the age of 18. We don't let you smoke cigarettes. We don't let you purchase or consume alcohol.
He is a father of family man. He's not a doctor, he concedes, but was very concerned, about the damage, potential harm, he says, that these treatments were having on kids. What's your message to kids who are struggling with their gender identity and their parents and their doctors who are trying to find a way to address it? What do you tell them?
Well, first of all, we love you. We we we love these kids. We wanna make sure that they get treatment that they need and get them to adulthood. And and in Tennessee, that's the age of 18. That's the age of majority.
The science at the end of the day is still evolving in this space. There's no question about it. And groups on both sides say simply more study needs to be done, and that is what has complicated cases like this 1. So what does the science say? Well, you know, we look to the guidelines of the Endocrine Society, Brad, which, is a global, organization of medical specialists that deal with hormones.
That is their primary specialty focused on regulating hormones in children and adults. And their guidelines based on 260 research studies recommend the use of medications, puberty blocking, and then hormone therapies, in tailored cases when a child is suffering from gender dysphoria.
At the
same time, they encourage waiting until 18 to consider a gender affirming surgery, say a general surgery or a facial surgery to help a child or a young adult rather become more like the person that they think. So this is really about these medications, which we should say have been used for decades in this country by cisgender kids, to treat all different sorts of treatments. So the drug safety is not really a question here. It's how the drugs are being used that's up for debate. And 1 more thing to point out, Brad, is that the European experience with these medications, has really colored how a lot of these states, more than 25 states in the United States have now banned these treatments, and a lot of them have pointed to Europe.
The United Kingdom, Norway, Sweden, once at the forefront of these treatments, have in the recent years pulled back on the treatments. They have now deemphasized the use of puberty blockers and hormone therapies in their health systems in those countries, citing a lack of evidence. And so while they have not banned those treatments, they've pumped the brakes, and that is, given some license to conservatives to say we need to do that here.
Interesting. Okay. And so then what the the case that this teenager in Tennessee is bringing up, what she just wants to get rid of this law entirely, like, strike it down?
Yeah. These 3 families, 1 of whom is the Williams family of Tennessee, backed by the Biden administration, asked the Supreme Court yesterday, to block this law, to say that it violates the constitution's equal protection clause because in their view, it discriminates on the basis of sex. According to the government, if you're a cisgender boy in Tennessee and the doctor says, you know, you're running a little behind on your puberty, here here is some testosterone, that's okay in Tennessee. But if you're a transgender boy in Tennessee and a doctor says you're suffering from gender dysphoria, Hey. Here is some estrogen.
That's not okay.
Oh.
And so what what the government alleges and the families alleged is that this is, textbook sex discrimination.
This statute on its face says you can't have medications inconsistent with sex. And no matter what you think about transgender discrimination generally, that's a sex based line.
Certainly, many of the court's conservatives were very wary of the sex discrimination argument, sympathetic to Tennessee.
Doesn't that make a stronger case for us to leave those determinations to, the legislative bodies rather than, try to determine them for ourselves?
You did hear, a number of justices, including Brett Kavanaugh, say this is given the the the murky science in his view. This is a flashing yellow light, if not a red light.
It strikes me as, you know, pretty heavy yellow light, if not red light, for this court to come in, the 9 of us, and just constitutionalize the whole area.
It was really justice Samuel Alito who was the harshest, about the science, really questioning here whether the benefits of these treatments had been borne out.
In almost all instances, the judgment at the present time of the health authorities in the United Kingdom and Sweden, is that the risks and dangers greatly outweigh the benefits.
The 3 liberal justices delivered a forceful rebuke of Tennessee's law. Justice Sonia Sotomayor calling out the horrific suffering that some of these children have.
It is a serious condition.
The petitioners in this case described throwing up every day, going almost mute because of his, because of their inability to speak in a voice that they could live with.
Justice Elena Kagan said that this whole law is imbued with sex, turns on sex, and is sex discrimination. But at the end of the day, Brad, we're gonna have to wait and see until June likely how the court will come out, in this really historic case. The first time the supreme court, took up a a law targeting transgender people, the first time the court heard from an openly transgender person, Chase Strangio, argued on behalf of the Williams family, before the court. And, it was just an extraordinary moment in, in the courtroom.
Wow. The the the first transgender lawyer in the Supreme Court's history argues this case. And by the way, it comes at a moment where transgender teenagers who are a still small minority in this country, feel ever more talked about by people who don't know them with this very intense rhetoric. A lot of them describe feeling like they don't have a country around them who supports them in any stage of their journey. So they could talk about feeling trapped.
Talk about dysphoria. That in itself has been so distressing for people in this community. Devin Dwyer, big case, big decision coming up in the spring. Thank you so much.
Thanks a lot, Brad.
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When you think of assassinations, you think of political figures. Right? That's why top government officials get security details. But really, an assassination is any targeted killing of a person who's got an outsized impact on the world around them. So that can include activists, military leaders, celebrities, even the heads of private businesses.
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This was a brazen assassination style killing for sure, Brad, and police say it unfolded in the heart of Midtown Manhattan just before the morning rush hour. It was about quarter to 7 in the morning when police said Brian Thompson walked across the street to the Hilton Hotel on Sixth Avenue, and a gunman had been lying in wait for several minutes.
The shooter steps onto the sidewalk from behind the car. He ignores numerous other pedestrians, approaches the victim from behind, and shoots him in the back. The shooter then walks toward the victim and continues to shoot.
He was rushed to the hospital. It didn't make it. He was pronounced dead at the hospital, and now there is this frantic manhunt all throughout New York and likely beyond to try and find the shooter.
Do we know who that would be and why he was there? I mean, it sounds like this guy knew what he was doing to an extent and was aiming for this executive. Right?
There's no question that police believe this was a targeted attack. They said there is no indication this was a random act of violence, but they don't know why. Did he have any known enemies or or anyone that you've been able to find so far?
Like I said, we're we're reaching out to law enforcement in Minnesota, and we're also interviewing his his coworkers and family members to see if there have been any specific threats against him in the past.
1 possible theory, Brad, is this resulted from some kind of a grudge either against UnitedHealthcare, the company, or against Thompson himself. His wife is just heartbroken and had not confirmed reports that the family had been threatened in any way. And we checked with a number of law enforcement agencies in Minnesota where Thompson lives, where UnitedHealthcare is based, and they say there are no reports of anyone threatening Thompson or his family, but police are still working to determine what exactly went on here.
When this guy clearly went to pains to conceal himself and and his route, how do you find him?
It's a good question because as soon as he escaped through an alleyway on foot, at some point, he grabs a bike and pedals into Central Park, and they have him on camera, police do, in certain locations. But then, of course, in the park, the trail may have gone cold. So they're still canvassing for video. They'd like to see this guy without a mask on. He was wearing what you might now call a COVID style face mask, and they're also looking for items from which they could extract DNA.
And there, Brad, they may have some clues. They picked up a water bottle and a couple of, you know, granola bar type wrappers that he appears to have purchased at a Starbucks before the shooting. They're hoping that will give them some clues as to who this guy is.
Are there any further threats either around New York or to, like I'm I'm wondering if health care workers should be on alert or other leaders of business. Like, some of these guys have bodyguards, but 1 of the things about New York is you really do see very important people just wandering around on the street. None that
we know of. Thompson travels without any executive protection. He was seen on video strolling across into the Hilton alone, at about quarter to 7 in the morning. He was there for an investor conference that was due to start about an hour later. The authorities went out of their way to to say that this was not random because it happened, you know, just 12 hours before 100 of thousands of people gathered just blocks away from where the shooting occurred to light the the Christmas tree in Rockefeller Center.
Wow. And police wanted to make sure that that people felt safe coming to that event. Alright.
Aaron Katierski, bizarre moment here. Thank you so much.
Really stunning. Thanks,
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And 1 last thing. For years now, American students have not had the best rep when it comes to math, which a lot of journalists are sympathetic to. Many of us are notoriously bad at math. We probably brought down the nation's scores when we were kids. But yesterday, America got its report card back from an international math test, and it's worse than we thought.
The results for the United States are not great.
That's Liz Cohen. She's the policy director for future ed, an education research group at Georgetown University. She's breaking down the results of the study called TIMSS, trends in international mathematics and science. It's given to 4th graders and 8th graders. In fact, Cohen has an 8th grader of her own.
In 8th grade, we have some algebraic concepts, geometry, data probability.
Global authorities put this out every 4 years or so. They did it in 20 15, 2019, and now we're seeing results from 2023. And when these results were published yesterday, just about every expert called America's scores disturbing. The head of our National Center For Education Statistics who works for the department of education called the numbers alarming. Scores have plummeted.
Cohen says the top performers globally are Singapore, South Korea, and China. Then you've got countries like Japan and Great Britain and Turkey. The US is right in the middle, barely above average.
We're hanging out with Portugal and Cyprus and the Slovak Republic, which might not be the neighbors that we're used to or that we would aspire to be with.
But she adds the ranking is not even the most troubling thing here. Many of these countries in our part of the chart are at least improving. Our kids' scores are actively getting worse.
Now we are, in 8th grade in particular, really back where we started, below where we were in 1995 despite, you know, almost 30 years of intense education reform, 1,000,000,000 of dollars, both federal, state, philanthropic, all of that.
So why is this happening? Well, you might think this is all pandemic related. Certainly, virtual schooling and disjointed classes were not helping a couple years ago. But if you look at the data, this decline really started back in 2015.
It's really important to understand that, in both 4th and 8th grade, we've actually been declining since before the pandemic.
In fact, even in the last couple years, the number of students who are chronically absent still hasn't returned to pre pandemic levels. Lockdowns are long gone, and the kids still aren't back in school as often. And that could be contributing to another troubling trend.
The students who are doing pretty well in school in America are still doing pretty well. The students in the 75th percentile and above in America are doing about the same on these tests in both 4th 8th grade as they were 4 or 8 years ago. Where this decline is happening is the students at the bottom end of the achievement spectrum are doing even worse.
So how do you fix this? Well, she says there's no clean answer, but there are interesting data points. 1 theory is that a focus on reading has come at the expense of math skills. Another is that George W. Bush's signature education law, No Child Left Behind, ended in 2015, right when this decline started.
Could school accountability be the answer to it all? Cohen says there are lots of theories, but 1 thing is for certain, these scores are setting off alarm bells.
My big takeaway when I saw these numbers was that in 2021, as schools were reopening, we had this unifying sense of urgency that we had to pay attention to kids and students and learning in this country. That came hand in hand with $122,000,000,000 investment from the federal government in COVID relief funds for public schools, and it really felt like this all hands on deck moment.
She says that urgency should not have ended the moment we put children back in classrooms. Once we told parents we have the tools to declare victory over COVID, if we are gonna turn these numbers around, she says, we're gonna have to change our formula.
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Hi. I'm Diane Macedo. Today on ABC News Live 1st, the urgent manhunt for a killer. New York City police are looking for the man who gunned down the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, calling it a targeted attack. The new video showing the suspect minutes before the shooting and the possible message police found on shell casings near the scene.
The blizzard warning triggering whiteout conditions as fast moving storm has a 100,000,000 people on alert from the Great Lakes to the northeast. The dangerous conditions on the roads as more bitter cold temperatures move in. In a deadly school shooting in California, 2 kindergarteners are in critical condition after a gunman opened fire at an elementary school near Sacramento. The latest on the investigation and what police are saying about the shooter. And the growing firestorm over the defense secretary nominee, Pete Hegseth, is vowing to fight for the job amid GOP concerns over allegations of financial and sexual misconduct.
How Hegseth is responding as president-elect Trump reportedly considers other options. But first, police are closing in on the identity of a suspect who gunned down United Healthcare CEO outside New York City Hotel. Investigators released new video of the suspect riding a bike out of Central Park moments after the shooting. Police say Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when the gunman approached from behind and fired several rounds. Now authorities say the shooter left clues at the scene that suggest he may have been angry with the insurance industry.
ABC News senior investigative correspondent Erin Koterski has latest on that. Erin, what's happening with the search for this suspect?
They still have dozens of NYPD detectives combing the city for evidence, Diane. They did find a lot at the scene, including some wrappers and a water bottle. They hope to extract some DNA. They also hope to find video of the suspect without his mask, but they are closing in, it seems, having a good idea of who this guy is, and they're hoping that some of those clues will lead right to him. A frantic manhunt for the man authority spotted on this surveillance video shooting and killing Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare.
Police said it was no accident.
Every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack.
The gun appears to have a silencer and jammed when the shooter cleared it. Police say he fired again.
From watching the video, it does seem that he's proficient in the use of firearms as he was able to clear the malfunctions pretty quickly.
All units be advised in regards to a confirmed male shot in the confluence of Midtown North.
Police say it was around 6:40 5 AM Wednesday when the suspect pictured at a Starbucks before the shooting gunned down Thompson as he was walking alone into the Hilton for an investors conference. In a new video overnight, the shooter seen here about 20 minutes before the shooting.
They're looking for a male about 5 feet 10 inches in height, cream colored jacket, black mask, black gloves.
It does seem This eyewitness snapping a picture of the suspect as he fled.
I was shocked, you know, and I I
feared that he could shoot me too.
By the time police arrived, the suspect had run off and hopped a bicycle to get away. Detectives now working to determine whether he had prepositioned that bike close by. New video overnight showing the suspect pedaling his bike on the Upper West Side. Officers found the 50 year old insurance executive and father of 2 collapsed on the sidewalk. Did he have any known enemies or or anyone that you've been able to find so far?
We're reaching out to law enforcement in Minnesota, and we're also interviewing his his coworkers and family members to see if there have been any specific threats against him in the past.
To have a pillar of the community, in New York, admittedly, for a a stockholder meeting to be gunned down on the street. It's just so foreign.
Even as the leader of a large corporation, Thompson did not have a security team with him. Investigators say they found shell casings with writing on them, including the words deny, defend, and depose. They also say they found a cell phone, granola bar wrappers, and a water bottle they believe are linked to the shooter. This brazen assassination style killing coming at the height of the holiday season while New York is packed with tourists for the nearby lighting of the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree. The NYPD increased patrols and security in the subways.
You know, day to day in New York is really scary, and I think that everyone here is doing their part to make sure that we have a safe event here.
A family is now grieving this loss. Thompson's wife, Paulette, telling ABC News, we are shattered to hear about the senseless killing of our beloved Brian. Brian was an incredibly loving, generous, talented man who truly lived life to the fullest and touched so many lives. The writings on those shell casings, Diane, give investigators some indication that perhaps this shooting resulted from a grudge either against Thompson himself, UnitedHealthcare in particular, or the insurance industry writ large. Think about those words, deny, defend, depose.
Those are words associated with the insurance industry and an indication, that not only was this perhaps, as the police have said, premeditated because it's so painstaking to write on the bullets, but also a killing that appears to have been deeply personal. Diane.
Alright. Erin Kotersky, thank you.
And investigators are trying to determine a motive after a deadly shooting at a religious elementary school in California. A gunman opened fire at the Feather River Adventist School in Oroville, critically injuring 2 young students before killing himself. ABC's Melissa Dunn joins us there. Melissa, what's the latest on the investigation?
Absolutely, Diane. So so far,
the FBI is now working with local police, of course, to investigate what is going on with the motive for why the shooter basically opened fire inside the school, kill, basically killing them himself and then in hurting a 56 year old boy. Now those kindergartners are hospitalized, and they are there while we're following up on their recovery. Diane? A Northern California community searching for answers after a gunman opened fire at an elementary school in Butte County.
Shots fired.
Officials say 2 male students ages 56 were shot and wounded.
Those 2 children, were transported, to, local hospitals. They are currently in extremely critical condition.
The suspect dead from a self inflicted gunshot. Investigators working into the night collecting evidence. Authorities say earlier that day, the shooter had met with the principal at Feather River 7th Day Adventist School to discuss enrolling a student. Several minutes later, screams and shots were heard. The small Christian school about an hour north of Sacramento put on lockdown.
The children taken to a nearby church to reunite with their families.
Tears. It was pandemonium. It's collective, collective trauma.
Absolutely collective trauma. So as far as those boys go for ages 56, they are in the hospital again, extremely critical condition. But as for the investigation, now as for that shooter, they're trying to figure out what is the motive. At this point, the sheriff's deputy was sharing that the possible link or belief there is that the shooter targeted this school because of its religious affiliation to the 7th Adventist Church. Diane?
Melissa Adan, thank you.
And a fast moving winter storm is bringing whiteout conditions and more snow from the Great Lakes to the northeast. Millions of people are under snow alert to several feet of snow is piling up on the roads. ABC's Trevor Alt is in Watertown, New York near the Canadian border. Trevor, what's the latest on the conditions there?
Yeah. Well, we still have all the snow piled up, Diane, and we are once again under a winter storm warning as this region really the entire Great Lakes region, but Western and Northern New York as we get further into the day, could potentially get 1 to 2 more feet of snow in some spots, and that's on top of all the snow that was left behind by the earlier system. And what makes this especially dangerous is that we do expect some pretty significant wind gust. We've already been seeing that play out as the second weather system has been sweeping across the great plains, into the Midwest as well. It can really create whiteout conditions, the combination of heavy snow, lake effect snow bands, and the winds whipping things up.
We've been watching that on, the highways, and all week, really, we have sadly seen several deadly traffic incidents related to this deteriorating weather. It is likely for, more eastern portions into the northeast. They're gonna have to battle through those conditions through the day. But this is not, the only risk of this weather. We do wanna remind people, Diane, even if you're not out driving, a lot of people will smartly stay home.
It's very cold. It takes a lot of physical exertion to, shovel and snow blow this much snow, and we've heard from officials in Buffalo this week that 2 people died from suffering heart attacks while they were shoveling and snow blowing. So this is a great reminder for your older family members if they are in this area. Make sure they're staying warm. Don't take it lightly, and don't overexert themselves because that is a risk too as you have all this heavy lake effect snow coming in, Diane.
Alright. Trevor Ault, thank you.
And a new snowstorm has a 100,000,000 people on alert across several states. ABC News chief meteorologist Ginger Z is tracking the forecast for us. Hi, Ginger.
Diane, for millions of people, it is a hold on to your hat day and hold on to a lot of things because we've got a lot going on. The snow came through with it, and so you've got blizzard warnings around Erie, Pennsylvania into the Allegheny Mountains of West Virginia and Maryland. That means that you've got sustained winds at 35 miles per hour or greater, less than quarter mile visibility for 3 hours or more. It's gonna be really hard to travel in that. So watch for those warnings, but also wind advisories from Asheville up to Worcester, Massachusetts.
That's for, like, a 30 to 50 mile per hour gust. And in the Lee of the Lakes, when you put all that wind and cold over there, look at those wind gust up to near 50 at noon in New York City, That cold air makes more lake effect snow. And so you're going to have an additional 1 to 2 feet some places. South of Watertown looks like 1 of the bull's eyes there. That cold blast, though, doesn't stop in the northeast.
It goes all the way deep south. So by Friday morning, there are cold weather advisories from Gulfport, Mississippi to Pensacola, Florida and into North Florida and South Georgia. So you'll feel cold all the way down there. But don't worry. We are getting more mild.
That mild weather that's been setting records out on the West Coast will be moving in. Atlanta goes into the sixties by Monday. New York City into the fifties. So we're gonna be above average again. Speaking of above average, warmest fall on record for plenty of sites from Caribou to Minneapolis, Houston, back to San Jose, California, and top 5 warmest for all of the dots you see on the map there.
Diane?
A lot of dots there. Ginger Zieg, thank you.
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected on Capitol Hill today to discuss their agenda for reducing regulations and the size of the federal government. President-elect Trump has charged Musk and Ramaswami with leading a department of government efficiency. Meanwhile, defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth is also expected to be back on the hill. The former Fox News host is vowing not to back down amid concerns about his alleged misconduct. ABC News chief White House correspondent Mary Bruce has the latest.
Donald Trump's embattled pick for secretary of defense, former Fox News host Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere.
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While sources tell us Trump is considering other options, Hegseth is doing a full court press in media interviews and on Capitol Hill defending himself against allegations of sexual misconduct, alcohol abuse, and financial mismanagement. Allegations he now calls the art of the smear.
Am I a perfect man? No. Was I a perfect man? Absolutely not.
Hegseth adamantly denies a rape accusation, claiming he paid a settlement to a woman who accused him of sexual assault to protect his job and marriage. And he insists he doesn't have a problem with alcohol, even promising not to drink a drop if he gets the position.
He offered up to me, and I know he has with other senators too that he's not drinking, and that's not something he's gonna do, when confirmed here.
But first, he needs to convince a growing number of skeptical Republicans, like senator Joni Ernst, who could be up for the job if Trump moves on. Hegseth, who has said women should not serve in combat, meeting with the Iowa Republican, Wednesday, the first female combat veteran to serve in the senate and a survivor of sexual assault.
We are engaging the young adults.
It was a very thorough conversation.
And while sources tell us she's on Trump's list of possible replacements, Ernst wouldn't engage when asked if she's interested.
Is there any chance you're up for consideration as defense
secretary, senator? Yes. Sir, I've said yes.
Did he agree to hear concerns on them?
Also on that list, we're told, Tennessee senator Bill Hagerty and Trump's 1 time primary rival, Florida governor Ron DeSantis. Sources saying he's made it clear to Trump he's interested in the role. Trump's most fervent supporters saying they'll follow his lead even if it's not clear who he will ultimately choose. Now Higgs, at the course, had only lose the support of 3 Republican senators and still get the job. He is expected back on the hill today to continue making his case, hoping he can sway enough of them to get across the finish line.
Diane?
Alright. We'll be watching ABC News chief White House correspondent Mary Bruce. Thank you. And authorities in the country of Georgia are cracking down on a growing protest movement. Protesters are calling for an end to the government after it suspended negotiations to join the European Union.
They say the governing party's turning Georgia back toward Russia and authoritarianism. Now police have raided the opposition party offices and detained its leader as the capital of Tbilisi is bracing for an 8th day of protests. ABC's Patrick Rievel is monitoring all from London for us. Patrick, how significant are these protests, and where do they go from here after these arrests?
Hi, Dania. We saw another night of dramatic protests in Georgia for the 7th consecutive night for a week now. Thousands of people have been gathering in the center of the capital Tbilisi and clashing with riot police who've been trying to violently disperse those crowds. Police have been using water cannons while protesters have unleashed barrages of fireworks. And then last night appeared to be 1 of the largest protests so far.
This crisis was sparked when the ruling Georgian dream party said it was suspending efforts for Georgia to join the European Union, but the protests are broader. They oppose what they see as the government's attempts to turn Georgia away from Europe and down an authoritarian path, moving it back towards Russia. The government has stepped up efforts to quash the protests, arresting a key opposition leader and raiding opposition groups' offices. And to be honest, the situation strongly resembles what happened in Ukraine during its revolution back in 2014. People on the streets see this as a struggle to stop their country following a model of Vladimir Putin's Russia.
That's why Ukraine's president Zelensky overnight imposed sanctions on figures from Georgia's ruling party, and now the US also overnight warning its preparing potential sanctions. Georgia's prime minister, though, today, defiant, promising to eradicate the opposition. Diane.
Alright. Patrick Krieville in London. Thank you.
Embassy International is accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza. Genocide in Gaza. The group says Israel made deliberate efforts to destroy Palestinians through deadly attacks, destruction of infrastructure, and blocking aid. Israeli's foreign minister says, the report is fabricated and entirely false. Meanwhile, 1 week into the Lebanon ceasefire, the IDF is again warning residents not to return to their homes.
ABC News chief national correspondent Matt Gutman is on the border of Israel and Lebanon with the latest.
Hey, Diane. We are in the kibbutz of Manara, just to the north of Israel. And about a 125 yards to my left is the Lebanese border. Nobody lives here anymore, since October 8th when Hezbollah opened fire on these communities in the north, and it's basically become a military garrison since then. You can see the ammo crates the Israeli military left behind.
Community leaders here tell us about 75% of the buildings here were either damaged or destroyed. And on the outside, I mean, this building looks pretty much intact, but I wanna show you something, what it looks like on the inside. Hezbollah militants just down the hill fired, anti tank missiles at most of these houses. Basically, everything on this row and on the other side as well. The inside, the damage is obviously extensive.
This is what's left of a light fixture over there is a television, obviously, with windows blown out. You can see the glass melted over on this side. There's something I wanna show you, and that is the view here to the valley of a lot. You have our cameraman, Omer, turn you can see that column of smoke over there. That's the Israeli military, blowing something up.
We've seen a number of those columns of smoke. And virtually every building that we have been able to see on the other side of the border here inside Lebanon has been destroyed. At this point, we understand the negotiations over this 60 day ceasefire are ongoing. There have been some complaints and allegations on both sides of violation of the ceasefire. The US continues to be deeply, involved in these talks, which are actually ongoing in Lebanon today as our ceasefire and hostage release negotiations for Gaza.
There are still about 90 some Israeli hostages remaining in Gaza, and Israeli officials and Hamas officials seem to be indicating, much more optimism than probably at any time over the past year that a deal over the Gaza issue can also be hammered out. So it looks like we are on the road to some quiet in both of the theaters of war here in Lebanon, just where we are, and in the south in Gaza. Diane?
Matt Gutman, thank you. Coming up, the latest on
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The last friend to see former 1 Direction star Liam Payne alive blaming the hotel in Argentina for his tragic death. In a new legal filing, Roger Norris, who was with Payne in the hours before his fatal fall from a 3rd floor balcony, accusing the hotel of failing to provide adequate medical care, claiming they knew Payne was in crisis and heavily intoxicated for 3 days and should have acted, arguing they did not even make an effort there to make up for their legal omission of having a 24 hour doctor.
He's also alleging that the hotel manager was the last persons who were actually with him before he passed. So if they were aware he was not in a condition to be left alone, there may be some liability on the side of the hotel.
The move comes as authorities in Argentina weigh possible charges against Norris himself for abandonment. Before Payne died in October, hotel staff seen in images from a surveillance camera obtained by TMZ, carrying Payne whose face is blurred through the lobby of his hotel, bringing him into his hotel room. According to TMZ, the images also show Payne surrounded by workers in the hallway near his room before he went inside for the last time. Photos of the singer's hotel room taken after his death show a smashed TV and drugs scattered throughout. An autopsy revealing the star had a mixture of the party drug, pink cocaine, alcohol, and prescription antidepressants in his system.
Such as with Matthew Perry, when individuals are enabling or are aware that someone is heavily intoxicated or under the influence of drugs and they are aware of it and didn't do anything to stop it, they are being held responsible.
3 people now facing charges related to the death of the former 1 Direction singer. The beloved 31 year old singer's sudden passing sending shock waves all over the world. His bandmates reeling. Reports suggesting 1 Direction was in talks to do a final reunion show before he passed. And Nora's claims it was not him, but the hotel manager who left Payne alone in his hotel room.
A judge will evaluate these claims. We reached out to the hotel and Payne's family for comment. So far, we have not heard back. Diane?
Alright. ABC's Ariel Reshav, thank you.
And prince Harry's opening up about his marriage, getting his security revoked, and what his mother, princess Diana, would think of his new life. Harry was at a conference to speak about his charitable work, but the conversation quickly turned personal. ABC's Will Reeve has the details.
Prince Harry stepping out for an interview at an event in New York City where he was asked about the public interest in his marriage.
Is that normal for you that there's are second, there's an article that says she's in California. You're in New York. They said, what is happening with these 2? Right? Is if and so is that a good thing for you in a way that there's so much interest in you?
No. It's definitely not a good thing, because apparently, we bought or moved house maybe 10, 12 times. We've apparently divorced maybe 10, 12 times as well. So it's it's so it was just like, what? So, yeah, it's it's hard to it's hard to keep up with, but that's why you just sort of ignore it.
Harry maintaining the scrutiny over his private life is fodder for trolls.
The people I feel most sorry about are the trolls who their their hopes are just built and built and built. And it's like, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. And then it doesn't happen.
Right.
So I feel sorry for them. Generally, generally, I do. I mean that.
While Harry was sitting down for this summit, Meghan was across the country in Los Angeles with friend Tyler Perry. Harry wed Meghan Markle in a fairy tale romance in 2018 only to depart England 2 years later, eventually settling in Santa Barbara, California. The couple hasn't been photographed together in public since their trip to Columbia this past August. On stage, Harry went on to say his mother, princess Diana, would have been pleased with his life today.
I very much enjoy, living here and and and bringing my kids up here. It's it's a part of, part of my life that I never thought I was that I was gonna live. And I feel as though it's the life that my mom wanted for me, and to be able to do, the things that I am able to do with my kids that I undoubtedly wouldn't be able to do in the UK.
Will Reeve, thank you. Coming up, the Russian stowaway that boarded a flight from New York to Paris is back in the US. What Delta's now saying about how she got on that flight?
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Welcome back to ABC News Live. 1st, you are looking at Paris on this Thursday, December 5th, and we have a lot of news to get to. French president Emmanuel Macron will address the nation today after the ousting of the country's prime minister. Yesterday's historic no confidence vote of Michel Barnier has left France without a functioning government. Macron now faces the critical task of naming a replacement capable of leading a minority government in a parliament where no party holds a majority.
ABC News foreign correspondent Tom Sufi Birridge joins us from just outside Paris. Tom, what's the latest here?
So we've seen a flurry of meetings throughout the day, political meetings, key figures going to the Elysee Paris, Elysee Palace in Paris. I I mean, effectively, that's the presidential palace. I mean, effectively, there's a deep sense of political crisis here, Diane. And what's different this time around after that historic no confidence vote last night, which brought down the government, is that French politics is deeply fragmented and polarized. So you've got parties on the far right, the the National Rally Party of Marine Le Pen doing very well, but you've also got parties on the far left also that did well, in the parliamentary election in the summer.
And, effectively, that no confidence vote was put forward by the far left and their left wing allies, but, effectively, they needed the support of the national rally, the hard right party, to get it through. And president Macron is still in power for the next 2 and a half years as president of the country, but it forced him effectively to try and nominate a new prime minister to try and get a functioning government in place. All the while, French debt is incredibly high, about a 120% of GDP. That's very, very high. So, look, there's a sense of political crisis.
Macron is trying, with his allies to try and get a prime minister in place, but it won't be easy. And and, really, there's no obvious way out of this political crisis right now.
So, Tom, what does this mean for the US and other countries around the world?
Well, look, France is a major player in the European Union. It is a major player in Europe in terms of helping Ukraine. President Macron has been a very firm voice in terms of ramping up weaponry and and arms from a European perspective, but, of course, the US plays the biggest role in terms of weaponry and arms to Ukraine and support for Ukraine overall. So, look, it is a very important ally, France. Of course, France is also, like all other nations around the world, are looking towards, president-elect Trump and what he might do and what he might say on the global stage.
But, look, it doesn't help. Europe, itself needs a stable strong France. It's a key player at the heart of Europe. Right now, France is in a sense of paralysis politically speaking. And, again, you know, because this political system here is so fragmented at the moment, there is no obvious, solution to this.
And that is why president Macron, the president of France, is is gonna take to the airwaves at 8 PM local time tonight to address the nation. We'll be waiting and watching, what he says.
We sure will. Tom Sufi Burridge, thank you. And protesters in South Korea are calling for the resignation of president Yoon Suk yeol. Opposition parties submitted a joint motion to impeach the president after his short lived martial law. Now a vote to impeach could come as early as tomorrow as president Yoon accepts the resignation of his defense minister.
ABC's chief foreign correspondent, Ian Panels, in Seoul for more. Ian, this defense minister was also in danger of impeachment. So what do you make of him resigning?
Yeah. In fact, he's still facing impeachment. He offered his resignation quite early on to the president, and today, the president's accepted that. In the impeachment process, the opposition parties are essentially accusing the defense minister of having persuaded the president to go for this martial law. Interestingly, there was a a series of political hearings today.
In 1 of them, the deputy defense minister essentially said that the order to deploy the military to the parliament building was given by the defense minister. Now there is a military proclamation that's supposed to follow the all the issuing of this, martial state of martial law, and he questioned the defense minister about whether or not the proper processes had been gone through. And the defense minister assured him that they had, And this document was signed, but he says he doesn't know by whom. So, there's also an order out, by the way, that he shouldn't leave the country. So a lot of eyes on exactly what happened.
What was the TikTok, that led up to the declaration of martial law in the country, and who decided to deploy troops to parliament?
So, Ian, what's the latest on this vote, on whether or not to impeach the president?
Yeah. So, that's the political process. It began began on Wednesday, and it's been going on today. We're expecting a vote could possibly be held, early on Saturday. It comes down to a numbers game to in order to impeach the president or the former defense minister, you have to have 2 thirds of the vote.
The indications from the president's own party that they will not support the opposition, and that prob probably will leave them short.
And what happens next, Ian, depending on how this vote goes?
I mean, all you know, if you strip all of this away, what is going on in South Korea at the moment? And you talk to people. It really has been in a state of almost political paralysis since the president was elected. He's very frustrated because he feels that his agenda has been stymied by the opposition, which controls parliament. And in many senses, he's right about that.
They oppose much of his agenda. Most of the things he's trying to get achieved have been stopped. And so we're kind of in this, this area where there's no great movement. If the impeachment fails, which appears likely, it also seems unlikely that the president, agrees to resign. And if he doesn't, well, how is he going to be able to govern when the opposition parties are still rallied against him?
Which is why I talk about this political paralysis, situation that you've got in South Korea. If he does stand down, then potentially, it's the leader of the opposition who also ran for president who will then become, the next president of Korea. So, politically, the chaos continues here in South Korea.
Alright. Chief foreign correspondent Ian Pannell, thank you.
And Venezuela is about a month away from its inauguration, David. On January 10th, the candidate the world sees as the president-elect may not be taking office. Current president Nicolas Maduro is clinging to power claiming he won the election. Now a top UN human rights group is ordering Venezuelan officials to preserve election materials as it investigates claims that Maduro stole the election in July. The UN estimates 7,700,000 Venezuelans have left since 2014 as they face violence and lack of food, and more than 545,000 have come to the United States.
Now the outcome on inauguration day could send more fleeing to the US just as the Trump administration is promising to tighten immigration. Venezuela's opposition leader Maria Cornida Machado joins me now with more on all that. Maria, thank you for joining us again, you know, just a month shy now of inauguration day. Do you think Edmundo Gonzalez, widely recognized as Venezuela's president-elect, will actually take office on January 10th?
Thank you very much, Diana. We're facing really tough times at this moment in Venezuela. As you said, the whole world knows that Maduro lost. We won by a landslide. But Maduro's decision since then has been to unleash the most brutal repression wave in our in our history.
Actually, it's been increasing in the last days. I have to tell you that as we speak, the siege around the, Argentinian embassy under the protection of Brazil has been getting stronger and stronger. Houses of neighboring, houses have been taken by force by the regime. My colleagues there have almost 2 weeks without electricity. They have cut the service of water, limiting food and medicine.
No visits whatsoever. I mean, this is a huge event that should have the attention of the whole world right now. It is a sign of desperation, Diana. It's a sign of weakness. And I have to say that Maduro is in his weakest position ever with real fractures between the system, the criminal system that forms, the regime.
Regarding the date, as you mentioned, it's just a week and a a month in front of us. Well, it will depend. It will depend. And and, basically, what also the world does at this point, Maduro needs to feel the pressure of the democratic western democracies in terms that he must accept that that the their their regime, their days are over, and that his best option is a negotiated transition. So it will depend on what we all do from here until January 10th.
Now if Venezuela's current leader, Nicolas Maduro, refuses to step down, what does that mean for your movement?
Well, I would say what what that would mean first and for the whole world. I mean, we are facing a regime that has turned into the main ally of the enemies of western democracies and the US. I mean, Maduro has opened Venezuela territory, for Iranian, agents or Hezbollah agents that have received, identities and passports, with with which they have entered the US. Maduro is a most important ally of Vladimir Putin in Latin America. Maduro has been forcing millions of Venezuelans, as you mentioned before, to flee our country.
And he's if he prolongs this agony, we will see 2, 3, 4, even more million Venezuelans leaving our country in the next month. That is a tragedy that we need to stop. If we want to solve the migration issue that, you know, hurts us so bad, we need to go to the root of the problem, to the cause of the problem. And people need to feel they have a future in their own country. If we manage to have a negotiated transition as it was voted by a landslide on July 28th, that we will not only see migration flows stopping.
We will see 100 of thousands of Venezuelans coming back and having also a democratic, government that will establish rule of law, that will secure property rights, we will turn Venezuela from what it is today, the criminal hub of the Americas into the energy hub of the Americas, a true trustable ally of the US and the rest of the countries of of this hemisphere in energy supply, not only in oil and gas.
Now president-elect Trump's inauguration day is January 20th, just 10 days after Venezuela's, which means this could become an issue for him. Have you spoken to him about it?
Not not yet, but after the election. We we do have great, relations as you know, But I would say with both parties I mean, Venezuela is such a huge issue in terms of national security for the US that has remained of a partisan issue. And you've seen lately in the last hours, senators from both parties been speaking out really strong in support of our colleagues who hold hostages at the, Argentinian embassy and speaking strongly in terms of what this current administration should do, the the the Biden administration before it goes, and, certainly, the very important signals that the new administration, the Trump administration is already, sending. I mean, naming Marco Rubio as a foreign secretary of state, secretary secretary of state. I mean, it's a huge message for for Latin America.
I mean, he's the first Hispanic, that it's been named in such an important position. And, also, Mike Walsh, that's been, named as as the National Security Council, has sent strong messages in support of democracy in the whole region. I mean, this goes beyond Venezuela. It has to do with Cuba, Nicaragua. Believe me, these these 2 regimes stand today because they are supported by Maduro.
So this is a moment to move forward, to give clear messages in terms that the world is not going to turn the page, that there have been committed crimes against humanity as the United Nations have stated. As we speak, Deliana, the ICC, the International Criminal Court, is holding their annual states, assembly member states assembly, and, the investigation regarding the crimes that have been committed by Maduro and his court are are, you know, moving ahead. So it's important, very important that the world understand that this is a huge opportunity. We've never had 1 such as this in 25 years to turn Venezuela into a true democracy, a great ally of the United States in promoting freedom, in opening markets, in addressing the energy issue, and certainly in getting rid of those agents that are enemies of our democracies that are, acting in in the in in the Americas because of Maduro's relations with these tyrannies.
Do you think the Maduro government is concerned about the incoming Trump administration?
Oh, certainly. I think so.
So senator Marco Rubio is nominated for secretary of state. He comes from Florida. Many Venezuelan immigrants there in that state. How do you see that impacting these negotiations? And in general, what are you looking for the world to do to help Venezuela right now?
Well, to do what it takes and what's correct and and what it's also the duty and responsibility of democracies around the world. I mean, we Venezuelans went into elections. They are not in conditions that you would never had accepted in any other democratic country. And and we organized, citizens. We teared down the barriers the regime had built to divide our country, and we won by a landslide by 70 percent of the votes even though, as I said, there were absolutely unfair conditions.
So now we have a united country. You know, more than 90% of Venezuelans here and abroad want a change in to democracy. We want to have a country that where we can bring our kids back home and turn Venezuela into a vibrant democracy to attract huge investments in the oil and energy sector in general, but many other areas. Venezuela will turn, as I said, in the energy hub of the Americas, but we need you, the international community, acting now, letting those that have been committed crimes and repressing our population know that they will be held accountable. Then then you increase the cost of repression.
You increase the cost of staying in power by force, and then you reach a point in which that cost of staying by force, by violence is higher, outweighs the cost of a negotiated transition. That's the moment where Maduro will sit down and negotiate his exit from power, and that's where we need to go get before January 10th. And and this is a unique opportunity we've never faced before, and everybody's interests are aligned with a democratic transition, even those, let's say, left wing, governments that used to be Maduro's allies in the past, but understand that in order to have political stability in the region, we need to solve the Venezuelan crisis, which is the most important 1 in the Western Hemisphere today.
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This entire time, ever since the night of Samantha's abduction, we were monitoring activity on her phone at the FBI.
We had gone 3 weeks without anything.
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Samantha's boyfriend got a text message from Samantha's phone.
The direction that this text message gave was to go to Connor Park.
Connor Park is a dog park in Anchorage, and it said Connor Park, sign underpick of Albert. Ain't she pretty?
The search led FBI agents and police from Alaska's wilderness all the way to rural Vermont, exposing a killer and a terrifying trail of crimes. Retired FBI special agent Jolene Godin, who worked on this case, is joining me now for more on that. Jolene, thanks for coming on. Talk me through this. When did your team get involved in this case?
The FBI in Anchorage was contacted pretty early on by the Anchorage police department in order to provide assistance and and do everything that we could to to help them. And so we were involved in the case very early on in February of 2012 after Samantha
disappeared. How challenging was it to have to search for Samantha in the Alaska wilderness?
It was difficult. Alaska is vast. It is just it's a huge state, with incredible amounts of of wilderness, and Samantha disappeared, for for several weeks. We had no idea where she was. She literally just vanished and disappeared.
So it was an a massive search effort in Alaska.
So how did
that end up leading you to Israel Keyes, the killer here, and then the rest of this case?
Sure. Keyes took Samantha's debit card, and he began using it. And he used it several times, and, ultimately, he started using it outside of Alaska. And the Texas Rangers, who were wonderful, joined forces with us, with the FBI down in the lower 48. And, Keyes was ultimately identified in a traffic stop by the Texas Rangers in Texas.
Now 1 of the biggest moments in this investigation was the discovery of 11 skulls that Keyes had painted in blood and then hid under the bed in his jail cell. So what was your reaction when that happened, and where did the investigation go from there?
Yes. Department of Corrections found the pieces of paper that had these hand drawn skulls and blood, and it it had really been kind of a cat and mouse, chess game with keys up until that point to identify the number of victims that he had. We'd suspected 11, but this really confirmed it because there were 11 skulls, drawn in blood. And this just continued to fuel the investigation. We knew that, we weren't just looking for Samantha, that there were many other victims out there.
And this really was just, it it fueled our motivation to continue to to do everything we could to find the victims, the people that Kees had hurt and bring them home to their families.
Alright. Jolene Godin, thank you. Wild crime 11 skulls begins streaming today only on Hulu. Jolene, thanks again. Coming up, after a brat summer, Charli XEX is talking about why people might be brats.
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Alright. 'Tis the season for year end lists, and right on the heels of Spotify Wrapped, People has unveiled its list of the most intriguing people of 2024. The top 25 includes princess Kate and Caitlin Clark at 2423, respectively. Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande holding space for the 12th spot on the list. But the top 5 begins with their costar, Bowen Yang, at number 5.
Beyonce, Pedro Pascal, and Chapel Rhone at numbers 4, 3, and 2 respectively. And people's most intriguing person of 2024, it's Demi Moore, the publication writing in the horror film, The Substance, Moore's character injects herself with a potion to stay youthful, but in real life, the age defying actress, 62, doesn't fear getting older. Whatever her secret is, she needs to bottle it. I mean, she has been in the zeitgeist for decades at this point, and she looks so good.
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Yeah. Exactly. Alright. Next to the long awaited not so surprising reveal of Billboard's greatest pop stars of the 21st century. The list has been a slow rollout over the last several months, and this week, Billboard ranked Beyonce as its number 1 spot.
Taylor Swift is number 2, and Billboard wrote of their ranking, quote, while Taylor Swift is the century's biggest pop star by the numbers, from album sales to streams to touring dominance. Our editorial staff chose Beyonce as our greatest pop star of the century based on her full 25 years of influence, evolution, and impact. They rounded out their top 5 with Rihanna, Drake, and Gaga as numbers 3, 4, and 5 respectively. Britney was 6, Adele was 10, and Katy Perry rounded out the top 25. I mean, it's an impossible task deciding who the greatest pop stars of the last 25 years are, but I do agree with the fact that Beyonce has been around since the year 2000, if that's where we're starting this list.
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Choreography, dancing, that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Alright. Next, after Bratz Summer and Bratz being named Collins Dictionary's word of the year, the head brat in charge is weighing in on her seismic 2024, Charli XEX speaking to Variety about why people might be brats. Charlie says, quote, I think it's because sometimes you're overcompensating for insecurity or feeling uncomfortable, and that's where the 2 fit together. She also revealed that she had the title and concept for the album before the music came, saying, it put boundaries on the songwriting when you consider brat because immediately, if I was writing a song, it would just be like, that's not brat, and we would move on and do something that was brat. So she had the words, she had the color, and then the sound came after that.
That's interesting that she kinda gave herself that container to work in.
And apparently, it worked. I mean, she's been, like, at the top top of every, like, albums of the year and Grammy nominations, things like that.
So what happened to all the ideas on the cutting room floor?
Maybe next album? Yeah. The next album is unbrat, notbrat, kind? Yes. I don't know.
Just kidding.
Yeah. Alright. Finally, here are the words that my colleagues and I struggled with the most this year. Yesterday, language learning company, Babble, and the captioning group released a list of words that news anchors, politicians, and other public figures in the US struggled with the most in 2024, and this year's trickiest words included Kamala Harris, Barry Keoghan, Chapel Roan, and Zendaya. There were also some scientific slip ups like semaglutide, the drug in weight loss medications, and speculose 3 b, which is a newly discovered exoplanet, and even 1 breed of dog, the Quaker hunche, which dug its way into the zeitgeist because of Shohei Ohtani.
That's the pitcher who has that dog. Look at that last word. I mean yeah.
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Hi. I'm Diana Macedo today on ABC News Live 1st, the growing firestorm over the defense secretary nominee. Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight for the job amid GOP concerns over allegations of financial and sexual misconduct. How Hegseth is responding as president-elect Trump reportedly considers other options. The blizzard warning triggering whiteout conditions.
A fast moving storm has 100,000,000 people on alert from the Great Lakes to the northeast. The dangerous conditions on the roads as more bitter cold temperatures move in. And the urgent manhunt for a killer. New York City police are looking for the man who gunned down the CEO of UnitedHealthcare calling it a targeted attack. The new video showing the suspect minutes before the shooting and the possible message police found on shell casings near the scene.
And a deadly school shooting in California. 2 kindergartners are in critical condition after a gunman opened fire at an elementary school near Sacramento. The latest on the investigation and what police are saying about the shooter. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected on Capitol Hill today to discuss their agenda for reducing regulations and the size of the federal government. President-elect Trump has charged Musk and Ramaswami with leading a department of government efficiency.
Meanwhile, defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth is also expected to be back on the hill. The former Fox News host is vowing not to back down amid concerns about his alleged misconduct. Hegseth also says he'll quit drinking while serving in Trump's cabinet. And ABC's J. O'Brien joins me from Capitol Hill along with ABC News senior reporter, Kathryn Faulders, for more on all of that.
Kathryn, Hegseth can only lose the support of 3 Republican senators and still get the job. He says Trump has his back, but sources tell ABC News Trump's also considering other options. So what are you watching for today, and what are you hearing from the Trump transition team?
Yeah. And I think it's notable that Trump himself hasn't come out and said anything, in support of Hegseth here. And our reporting this morning is that unlike with Matt Gaetz, for example, where Trump was working the phones and calling senators, he's not doing that with Pete Hegseth here. There's a realization inside the Trump transition that his potential nomination might not make it through. Now I will say that I was just on the phone, with a source close to the Trump transition team that said, they really are digging their heels in on Hegseth's nomination, that they're feeling more confident today than they were yesterday, for example.
But the reality is, and they acknowledge this internally, that it's going to come down to whether or not he has the votes, and they're focused specifically on those women Republican senators. They don't have a good gage on how all of the women Republicans would vote. So that is a focus of the Trump transition team today. Can they get a good sense of that? And once they do get a good sense of that, does that mean that his nomination won't go through?
I think we'll have a better sense by the end of the day. Of course, he's up there on Capitol Hill, where Jay is, for meetings again today.
So, Jay, what does he Seth need to do to win enough support from Republican senators?
Well, as Catherine just mentioned, he really needs to focus on those women Republican senators, in particular, Joni Ernst. She is seen as kind of a bellwether here. There are different senators who have different concerns about Hegseth, and the concerns vary. But Joni Ernst is a sexual assault survivor. She's a combat veteran, and she met with Pete Hegseth yesterday.
And to give you a sense of the challenges that Pete Hegseth faces here because, a, he's got those allegations of sexual assault and misconduct, and, b, he has said that, he doesn't believe women should serve in combat roles, 2 things that are key to Joni Ernst's bio here. When I asked Joni Ernst if Pete Hegseth said anything to alleviate some of the concerns she might have as him at the top of the department of defense, she didn't answer that question. All she told reporters is that she and Hegseth, a, share a history of service to this country because Hegseth is a veteran as well, and b, that she had a, quote, frank and thorough conversation with Pete Hegseth. So that's not a ringing endorsement. That's not her wrapping her arms around Pete Hegseth and saying, Pete Hegseth has my vote.
So he's gotta go senator by senator here and try to address some of their concerns. He's doing that by saying he's a changed man, and he's also doing that by something you alluded to yesterday, which we learned from senator Eric Schmidt, which is that Hegseth is going around the senators and saying that he will not drink if he becomes the secretary of defense. And there are some senators like Schmidt, a Republican, who say that that argument is working on them and that they view that as a good faith argument. There are others who say they still have concerns, Diane.
Jay, what
can you tell
us about the agenda Musk and Ramaswami are bringing to congressional Republicans today, and how do you expect it'll go over?
Well, this is the Department of Government Efficiency Caucus meeting today, the DOGE, quote, unquote, caucus. And Ramaswami and Musk have a list of high flying priority items. Some of them are cutting things like 1 to $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal budget. It's unclear if that would really be successful up here on Capitol Hill. That is a tall order.
And then they have some other things that we've already heard lawmakers, even 1 democrat so far, say that they can get behind, like cutting certain federal agencies and what they view as excess in those agencies today, lack of, quote, unquote, efficiency, and also even little things like bringing federal employees who might be working remote back to federal office buildings in Washington DC, which some of them are large part empty, I can tell you from my experience here. So there are some things that lawmakers can get behind. You can imagine Musk and Ramaswamy are gonna pitch Republicans on everything today. It's just been clear how much of their agenda ultimately is gonna be able to get through this building.
Alright. Jay O'Brien, Katherine Faulders, thank you both.
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fast moving winter storm is bringing white out conditions and more snow from the Great Lakes to the northeast. Millions of people are under snow alert as several feet of snow is piling up on the roads. ABC's Trevor Alt is in Watertown, New York near the Canadian border. Hi, Trevor.
Hey there, Diane. So millions of people
are still under wind and snow alerts. And where we are in Watertown, we are once again under a winter storm warning. We've got all this snow that was left behind from the first system earlier this week. Now we've got a second system moving through. Could easily, in some areas, drop another foot or 2 of snow.
And what makes it especially dangerous is strong wind gust up to 50 miles an hour. We have been watching whiteout conditions sweeping across the plains into the Midwest. We've sadly seen a number of incidents that have been deadly crashes out there on the roads. Even today, we've been seeing another incident involving a semi on I90 south of Buffalo backing up traffic westbound, and there's a fear that it could get even worse as we head into the day, particularly Western New York, Northern New York where we are could be really dicey out there on the roads. But we also wanna remind everyone that there are risks to this weather even if you are not driving.
Officials in Buffalo say this week, 2 people died after suffering heart attacks while shoveling and snow blowing. It's a good thing to be aware of for your older family members. Diane?
Good thing to know. Trevor Alt, thank you.
And a new snowstorm has 100,000,000 people on alert across several states. Meteorologist Britney Bell of our ABC station here in New York is tracking the forecast for us. Britney, what do you got for us?
Anne, the snow is not letting up. We'll have to deal with this around throughout this afternoon and this evening, potentially into early tomorrow morning. So we have snow that continues to fall around the Great Lakes, New England, and the mid then the mid Atlantic, even looking at showers too as far south as Washington DC. We have winter weather alerts stretching from Michigan towards Maine down towards Western New York, and check out West Virginia and extreme Western Maryland. There's a blizzard warning in effect for whiteout conditions that could lead to dangerous travel, even a wind advisory.
More about the winds in just a second. But the snow forecast over the next 48 hours on the lower end, 3 to 6 inches. I wanna point out the lake effect snow too. So for Lake Erie, 6 to 12 inches of snow is possible, but 1 to 2 feet of extra snow on top of the lake effect snow that already fell earlier this week, that could fall on your spots like Watertown. Now back over to the winds, could gust as high as 45 to 55 miles per hour, prompting those wind advisories, for Washington DC close to 50 mile per hour gust and similar conditions for New York City.
Now once you factor in cold temperatures, we're in for frigid real fill numbers dipping below 0 in some areas. It could feel like 5 below in Asheville, even Birmingham, a real fill temperature of 8 degrees early tomorrow morning. Diane?
Alright. Meteorologist Britney Bell, thank you. Mhmm.
And police are closing in on the identity of the suspect who gunned down United Healthcare CEO outside a New York City hotel. Investigators released new video of the suspect riding a bike outside Central Park moments after the shooting. Police say Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when the gunman approached from behind and fired several rounds. Now authorities say the shooter left clues at the scene that suggest he may have been angry with the insurance industry. ABC's Morgan Norwood joins us now for more on that.
Morgan, what's the latest on the search for this man?
Diane, as you just laid out, police now appear to be closing in on identifying, the shooter, which is, of course, key to tracking him down. They're trying to get a search warrant on a place that they believe he might have been staying at in the city. We're unsure if that's a hotel, if that's an apartment. That's unclear at this point, but it comes as we just saw that Nuke doorbell camera video. It shows the suspect riding that ebike on the upper west Side.
He's wearing that all black hoodie, that black face mask. We also see him carrying an ebike battery, and that's key because authorities think that he may have made his getaway through Central Park. They were trying to figure out if he had that bike ready before this attack. An eyewitness also snapping a photo of him as he took off. These sightings and the reason why I point that out is that they're so critical to police when it comes to piecing together a timeline, placing him in different areas, trying to narrow down that search zone, and ultimately find out where he's holed up.
It seems like so much planning went into this. And, Morgan, we've got to talk about the writing police say they found on the bullet casings. What does that tell you in terms of motive?
Yeah. You know, he left behind a treasure trove of evidence, at the scene. And while he does remain on the run, this is the secondary, investigation that police are trying to figure out what the motive is in this particular situation. Investigators finding the words deny, defend, and depose written on those 3 shell casings found at the scene, which could indicate Diane some level of dissatisfaction with the UnitedHealthcare or just the healthcare industry and insurance industry as a whole. Police are now working with Thompson's family and colleagues to determine if he had received any specific threats in the days leading up to this attack, Diane.
Alright. Morgan Norwood, thank you.
And investigators are trying to determine a motive for a deadly shooting at a religious elementary school in California as well. A gunman opened fire at the Feather River Adventist School in Oroville, critically injuring 2 young students before killing himself. ABC's Melissa Adan is there. Melissa, what's the latest on this investigation?
Yes, Diane. So the FBI is now teaming up with the local authorities here in Butte County, California. We've been told that the suspect has been ID'd. They are not releasing the suspect's ID, but here's what they know so far, that this suspect was dropped off here at the school in a ride share, then had a meeting with the principal. They seemed to discuss about the possibility of enrolling a student.
The principal then telling authorities that he didn't see any red flags with that meeting, but shortly after that is when that suspect came out here to the campus outside these classrooms and then opened fire shooting and those shots hitting 2 children. Diane?
So, Melissa, what more do we know about the condition of these 2 kindergartners who were shot?
Absolutely. So as far as those kindergartners, they were hospitalized. They are, males, boys, ages 56. We are told they're in extremely critical condition. We've been following up to see, they have been going, having medical procedures, So we're waiting on updates there.
The local pastor nearby saying how the community here is praying for them. There's church nearby had opened up their doors as kinda like the family reunification area following, of course, the shooting, sharing with us how traumatic it has all been. And 1 possible theory, Diane, I do wanna mention that police are sharing is that possibly the suspect may have targeted the school in particular because of its religious affiliation. Diane?
Alright. Melissa Adan, thank you.
And the US is threatening sanctions as authorities in the country of Georgia crackdown on a growing protest movement. Protesters are calling for an end to the government after it suspended negotiations to join the European Union. They say the governing party is turning Georgia back toward Russia and authoritarianism. Now police have raided opposition party offices, detaining its leader as the capital of Tbilisi's bracing for an 8th day of protests. ABC's Patrick Rievel is monitoring all of that from London.
Patrick, what's the latest here, and how significant is it to see over a week now of demonstrations?
Hi, Danielle. I mean, this crisis in Georgia does appear to still be escalating. We saw, again, a dramatic night of protests in Georgia last night for the 7th consecutive night. And as you say, they are preparing for another night of protests this evening. And so for a week now, tens of thousands of people have been gathering in the center of the capital Tbilisi and clashing with riot police who've been trying to violently disperse them.
Police have been using water cannons, while protesters have been unleashing these big barrages of fireworks. And last night did appear to be 1 of the largest protests so far. And as you say, this crisis was sparked when the ruling Georgian dream party said it was suspending efforts for Georgia to join the European Union. The protesters oppose what they see as the government's attempts to turn Georgia away from Europe and down an authoritarian path, moving it back towards Russia. The government, though, has so far stepped up efforts to quash the protests, arresting a key opposition leader and raiding opposition group's offices.
The situation really does strongly resemble what happened in Ukraine back in 2014 during its revolution. People on the streets in Georgia see this as a struggle to stop their country following a model of Vladimir Putin's Russia. Ukraine's president Zelensky overnight imposed sanctions on figures from Georgia's ruling party saying that they are surrendering the country to Putin. And now the US, as you say, is overnight also warning that it is preparing potential sanctions. But Georgia's prime minister today is defiant saying that he will eradicate the opposition, Diane.
Alright. Patrick Rievel in London. Thank you.
Amnesty International is accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza. The group says Israel made deliberate efforts to destroy Palestinians through deadly attacks, destruction of infrastructure, and blocking aid. Israel's foreign minister says, the report is fabricated and entirely false. Meanwhile, 1 week into the Lebanon ceasefire, the IDF is again warning residents not to return to their homes. ABC's chief national correspondent, Matt Gutman, is on the border of Israel and Lebanon with the latest there.
Hey, Diane. We are in the kibbutz of Manara, just to the north of Israel. About a 125 yards to my left is the Lebanese border. Nobody lives here anymore, since October 8th when Hezbollah opened fire on these communities in the north, and it's basically become a military garrison since then. You can see the ammo crates the Israeli military left behind.
Community leaders here tell us about 75% of the buildings here were either damaged or destroyed. And on the outside, I mean, this building looks pretty much intact, but I wanna show you something, what it looks like on the inside. Hezbollah militants just down the hill fired, anti tank missiles at most of these houses. Basically, everything on this row and on the other side as well. The inside, the damage is obviously extensive.
This is what's left of a light fixture over there. It's a television, obviously. The window is blown out. I can see the glass melted over on this side. There's something I wanna show you, and that is the view here to the valley pulled up.
You have our cameraman, Omer, turn. You can see that column of smoke over there. That's the Israeli military, blowing something up. We've seen a number of those columns of smoke. And virtually every building that we have been able to see on the other side of the border here inside Lebanon has been destroyed.
At this point, we understand the negotiations over this 60 day ceasefire are ongoing. There have been some complaints and allegations on both sides of violation of the ceasefire. The US continues to be deeply, involved in these talks, which are actually ongoing in Lebanon today as are ceasefire and hostage release negotiations for Gaza. There are still about 90 some Israeli hostages remaining in Gaza, and Israeli officials and Hamas officials seem to be indicating, much more optimism than probably at any time over the past year that a deal over the Gaza issue can also be hammered out. So it looks like we are on the road to some quiet in both of the theaters of war here in Lebanon, just where we are, and in the south in Gaza.
Diane?
Matt Gutman, thank you. Coming up, turbulent Capitol Hill hearing how airline executives responded after getting grilled over skyrocketing fees that make flights more expensive.
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Welcome back to ABC News Live First. The Department of Transportation is proposing a new rule to help airline passengers. It will require airlines to compensate passengers impacted by significant delays and cancelations. The airlines would also have to rebook those passengers for free and cover meals, lodging, and other transportation related expenses. It comes after airline executives were grilled by senators over skyrocketing fees that make plane tickets more expensive.
ABC's Elizabeth Chelsea has more on the heated Capitol Hill hearing.
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Airline executives are under pressure after a turbulent hearing on Capitol Hill over the fees that make your airfare more expensive.
Nobody enjoys flying in your airlines. It's a it's a disaster. You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You harass them to death.
A senate subcommittee grilling executives over fees charged for early boarding, better seats, and other conveniences, voicing many travelers' frustrations.
They feel with more than understandable justification that they are piggy banks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees
that seem
to have no connection to any cost that the airlines incur.
Senators claim there's a lack of transparency, saying vague pricing makes it hard for customers to budget.
We're all captives on your airplanes at a certain point, And you just say, oh, you wanna pick a seat. We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
But executives rebutting those claims.
Optional services by definition are not so called junk fees as optional services are not required to travel.
It has never been more affordable to fly. Over time, overall air airfares have gone down.
Senators also say some budget airlines have run a kind of bounty program, paying employees extra to stop passengers if their bags fail to meet certain requirements.
Your airlines are paying 1,000,000 of dollars to your employees to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Now there are already some changes that passengers should know about. A new government regulation took effect in October that requires airlines to automatically refund you within 7 business days if your domestic flight is delayed more than 3 hours and you choose not to fly. The transportation department is also proposing a new rule today that would require airlines pay at least $200 in cash refunds if your trip is severely disrupted and it's the airline's fault. Most airlines do already provide refunds, and they say this rule could drive up ticket prices. Diane.
Alright. ABC's Elizabeth Schulzey, thank you.
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the top headlines we're following right now. The justice department says Memphis police routinely used excessive force and discriminate against black people. The findings are from a comprehensive investigation after the beating death of Tire Nichols by 5 officers in January 2023. It's just 1 of 12 investigations into law enforcement agencies across the US since April 2021. Efforts to rescue a Pennsylvania grandmother are apparently apparently swallowed by a sinkhole are now being described as a recovery mission.
Officials say it's unlikely Elizabeth Pollard is still alive. Police say the 64 year old was reportedly missing early Tuesday after leaving home with her granddaughter to look for her cat. The granddaughter was found unharmed in their car. Officials believe the hole opened up where Pollard was standing above an abandoned coal mine. And a Russian woman accused of boarding a flight from New York to Paris without a ticket is now under arrest.
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And Taylor Swift is celebrating the biggest book launch of the year. The Grammy winner sold more than 800,000 copies of her Eris tour book in just the first 2 days. The photo filled book commemorating her tour is 39.99 and only available at Target. The only bigger nonfiction book launch was when former president Obama wrote his memoir. And the executive producer of the dodo is stepping away.
The move marks an end of an era for the popular social media brand known for its cute and informative animal videos. ABC's Danny New has the latest. Danny, you want a cat and a tail.
Growing up, Joanna Zelman's love of animals was always encouraged by her father, Jared. Just listen to how many pets they had.
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Well, good call nurturing that passion because it led to an accomplished career for Joanna. About 10 years ago, she became 1 of the earliest employees and eventually the executive producer of a social media brand you probably know called the dodo. Over the past decade, the dodo has become 1 of the most famous providers of animal videos that make you go, aw.
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However, Joanna's time with the dodo is soon coming to a close. And as she looks back, there's 1 costar from her videos that she's especially proud to have featured. It started in 2016 when her father, a semi retired doctor and volunteer ambulance driver, led Facebook live workshops on how to make DIY dog toys.
It's just running inside this, like, fluff in a pipe.
But perhaps their most famous clip together was about 3 years ago when Joanna was at her childhood home in Connecticut and found a skunk's tail sticking out of a pipe.
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He really, like, looked right in my eyes, and I don't know. It it did feel like he kind of understood.
They also recently transported calves from a farm to an animal sanctuary together for a video that could perhaps be their final post for the dodo. Of course, though, it does not sound like they'll ever stop loving and helping animals as a team.
We've just gotten to have so many fun adventures together, and I feel really lucky for that.
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You are looking at Paris on this Thursday, December 5th, and we have a lot of news to get to. French president Emmanuel Macron will address the nation today after the ousting of the country's prime minister. Yesterday's historic no confidence vote of Michel Barnier has left France without a functioning government. Macron now faces the critical task of naming a replacement capable of leading a minority government in a parliament where no party holds a majority. ABC's foreign correspondent Tom Sufi Birridge joins us from just outside Paris.
Tom, what's the latest here?
So we've seen a flurry of meetings throughout the day, political meetings, key figures going to the Elysee Paris, Elysee Palace in Paris. I mean, effectively, that's the presidential palace. I mean, effectively, there's a deep sense of political crisis here, Diane. And what's different this time around after that historic no confidence vote last night, which brought down the government, is that French politics is deeply fragmented and polarized. So you've got parties on the far right, the the National Rally Party of Marine Le Pen doing very well, but you've also got parties on the far left also that did well, in the parliamentary election in the summer.
And, effectively, that no confidence vote was put forward by the far left and their left wing allies, but, effectively, they needed the support of the national rally, the hard right party, to get it through. And president Macron is still in power for the next 2 and a half years as president of the country, but it forced him effectively to try and nominate a new prime minister to try and get a functioning government in place. All the while, French debt is incredibly high, about a 120% of GDP. That's very, very high. So, look, there's a sense of political crisis.
Macron is trying, with his allies to try and get a prime minister in place, but it won't be easy. And and, really, there's no obvious way out of this political crisis right now.
So, Tom, what does this mean for the US and other countries around the world?
Well, look, France is a major player in the European Union. It is a major player in Europe in terms of helping Ukraine. President Macron has been a very firm voice in terms of ramping up weaponry and and arms from a European perspective, but, of course, the US plays the biggest role in terms of weaponry and arms to Ukraine and support for Ukraine overall. So, look, it is a very important ally, France. Of course, France is also, like all other nations around the world, are looking towards, president-elect Trump and what he might do and what he might say on the global stage.
But, look, it doesn't help. Europe, itself needs a stable strong France. It's a key player at the heart of Europe. Right now, France is in a sense of paralysis politically speaking. And, again, you know, because this political system here is so fragmented at the moment, there is no obvious, solution to this.
And that is why president Macron, the president of France, is is gonna take to the airwaves at 8 PM local time tonight to address the nation. We'll be waiting and watching, what he says.
We sure will. Tom Sufi Burridge, thank you. And protesters in South Korea are calling for the resignation of president Yoon Suk yeol. Opposition parties submitted a joint motion to impeach the president after his short lived martial law. Now a vote to impeach could come as early as tomorrow as president Yoon accepts the resignation of his defense minister.
ABC News chief foreign correspondent, Ian Panels, in Seoul for more. Ian, this defense minister was also in danger of impeachment. So what do you make of him resigning?
Yeah. In fact, he's still facing impeachment. He offered his resignation quite early on to the president, and today, the president accepted that. In the impeachment process, the opposition parties are essentially accusing the defense minister of having persuaded the president to go for this martial law. Interestingly, there was a a series of political hearings today.
In 1 of them, the deputy defense minister essentially said that the order to deploy the military to the parliament building was given by the defense minister. Now there is a military proclamation that's supposed to follow the all the issuing of this, as a martial state of martial law, and he questioned the defense minister about whether or not the proper processes had been gone through. And the defense minister assured him that they had, And this document was signed, but he says he doesn't know by whom. So, there's also an order out, by the way, that he shouldn't leave the country. So a lot of eyes on exactly what happened.
What was the TikTok, that led up to the declaration, of martial law in the country, and who decided to deploy troops to parliament.
So, Ian, what's the latest on this vote, on whether or not to impeach the president?
Yeah. So, that's the political process. It began began on Wednesday, and it's been going on today. We're expecting a vote could possibly be held, early on Saturday. It comes down to a numbers game to in order to impeach the president or the former defense minister, you have to have 2 thirds of the vote.
The indications from the president's own party that they will not support the opposition, and that prob probably will leave them short.
And what happens next, Ian, depending on how this vote goes?
I mean, all you know, if you strip all of this away, what is going on in South Korea at the moment? And you talk to people. It really has been in a state of almost political paralysis since the president was elected. He's very frustrated because he feels that his agenda has been stymied by the opposition, which controls parliament. And in many senses, he's right about that.
They oppose much of his agenda. Most of the things he's trying to get achieved have been stopped. And so we're kind of in this, this area where there's no great movement. If the impeachment fails, which appears likely, it also seems unlikely that the president, agrees to resign. And if he doesn't, well, how is he going to be able to govern when the opposition parties are still rallied against him?
Which is why I talk about this political paralysis, situation that you've got in South Korea. If he does stand down, then potentially, it's the leader of the opposition who also ran for president who will then become, the next president of Korea. So, politically, the chaos continues here in South Korea.
Alright. Chief foreign correspondent Ian Pannell, thank you.
And Venezuela is about a month away from its inauguration, David. On January 10th, the candidate the world sees as the president-elect may not be taking office. Current president Nicolas Maduro is clinging to power claiming he won the election. Now a top UN human rights group is ordering Venezuelan officials to preserve election materials as it investigates claims that Maduro stole the election in July. The UN estimates 7,700,000 Venezuelans have left since 2014 as they face violence and lack of food, and more than 545,000 have come to the United States.
Now the outcome on inauguration day could send more fleeing to the US just as the Trump administration is promising to tighten immigration. Venezuela's opposition leader, Maria Cornida Machado, joins me now with more on all that. Maria, thank you for joining us again, you know, just a month shy now of inauguration day. Do you think Edmundo Gonzalez, widely recognized as Venezuela's president-elect, will actually take office on January 10th?
Thank you very much, Diana. We're facing really tough times at this moment in Venezuela. As you said, the whole world knows that Maduro lost. We won by a landslide. But Maduro's decision since then has been to unleash the most brutal repression wave in our in our history.
Actually, it's been increasing in the last days. I have to tell you that as we speak, the siege around the, Argentinian embassy under the protection of Brazil has been getting stronger and stronger. Houses of neighboring, houses have been taken by force by the regime. My colleagues there have almost 2 weeks without electricity. They have cut the service of water, limiting food and medicine.
No visits whatsoever. I mean, this is a huge event that should have the attention of the whole world right now. It is a sign of desperation, Diana. It's a sign of weakness, And I have to say that Maduro is in his weakest position ever with real fractures between the system, the criminal system that forms, the regime. Regarding the date, as you mentioned, it's just a week and a a month in front of us.
Well, it will depend. It will depend. And and, basically, what also the world does at this point, Maduro needs to feel the pressure of the democratic western democracies in terms that he must accept that that the their their regime, their days are over, and that his best option is a negotiated transition. So it will depend on what we all do from here until January 10th.
Now if Venezuela's current leader, Nicolas Maduro, refuses to step down, what does that mean for your movement?
Well, I would say what what that would mean first and for the whole world. I mean, we are facing a regime that has turned into the main ally of the enemies of Western democracies and the US. I mean, Maduro has opened Venezuela territory, for Iranian, agents or Hezbollah agents that have received, identities and passports, with with which they have entered the US. Maduro is a most born ally of Vladimir Putin in Latin America. Maduro has been forcing millions of Venezuelans, as you mentioned before, to flee our country.
And he's if he prolongs this agony, we will see 2, 3, 4, even more million Venezuelans leaving our country in the next month. That is a tragedy that we need to stop. If we want to solve the migration issue that, you know, hurts us so bad, we need to go to the root of the problem, to the cause of the problem. And people need to feel they have a future in their own country. If we manage to have a negotiated transition as it was voted by a landslide on July 28, not we will not only see migration flows stopping.
We will see 100 of 1000 of Venezuelans coming back and having also a democratic, government that will establish rule of law, that will secure property rights. We will turn Venezuela from what it is today, the criminal hub of the Americas into the energy hub of the Americas, a true trustable ally of the US and the rest of the countries of of this hemisphere in energy supply, not only in oil and gas.
Now president-elect Trump's inauguration day is January 20th, just 10 days after Venezuela's, which means this could become an issue for him. Have you spoken to him about it?
Not not yet, but after the election. We we do have great, relations as you know. But I would say with both parties. I mean, Venezuela is such a huge issue in terms of national security for the US that has remained of a partisan issue. And you've seen lately in the last hours, senators from both parties been speaking out really strong in support of our colleagues who hold hostages at the Argentinean embassy and speaking strongly in terms of what this current administration should do, the the the Biden administration before it goes.
And, certainly, the very important signals that the new administration, the Trump administration is already, sending. I mean, naming Marco Rubio as a foreign secretary of state, secretary secretary of state. I mean, it's a huge message for for Latin America. I mean, he's the first Hispanic, that it's been named in such an important position. And, also, Mike Walsh, that's been, named as as the National Security Council, has sent strong messages in support of democracy in the whole region.
I mean, this goes beyond Venezuela. It has to do with Cuba and Nicaragua. Believe me, these these 2 regimes stand today because they are supported by Maduro. So this is a moment to move forward, to give clear messages in terms that the world is not going to turn the page, that there have been committed crimes against humanity as the United Nations have stated. As we speak, Juliana, the ICC, the International Criminal Court, is holding their annual states, assembly member states assembly, and, the investigation regarding the crimes that have been committed by Maduro and his in court are are, you know, moving ahead.
So it's important, very important, that the world understand that this is a huge opportunity. We've never had 1 such as this in 25 years to turn Venezuela into a true democracy, a great ally of the United States, in promoting freedom, in opening markets, in addressing the energy issue, and certainly in getting rid of those agents that are enemies of our democracies that are, acting in in the in in the Americas because of Maduro's relations with these tyrannies.
Do you think the Maduro government is concerned about the incoming Trump administration?
Oh, certainly. I think so.
So senator Marco Rubio is nominated for secretary of state. He comes from Florida, many Venezuelan immigrants there in that state. How do you see that impacting these negotiations? And in general, what are you looking for the world to do to help Venezuela right now? Well, to do what it takes and what's correct and and what
it's also the duty and responsibility of democracies around the world. I I mean, we even swans went into elections, Diana, in conditions that you would never had accepted in any other democratic country. And and we organized, citizens. We tear down the barriers the regime had built to divide our country, and we won by an onslaught by 70% of the votes, even though, as I said, they were absolutely unfair conditions. So now we have a united country.
You know, more than 90% of Venezuelans here and abroad want a change in to democracy. We want to have a country that where we can bring our kids back home and turn Venezuela into a vibrant democracy to attract huge investments in the oil and energy sector in general, but many other areas. Venezuela will turn, as I said, in the energy hub of the Americas, but we need you, the international community, acting now, letting those that have been committed crimes and repressing our population know that they will be held accountable. Then then you increase the cost of repression. You increase the cost of staying in power by force, and then you reach a point in which that cost of staying by force, by violence is higher, outweighs the cost of a negotiated transition.
That's the moment where Maduro will sit down and negotiate his exit from power. And that's where we need to go get before January 10th. And and this is a unique opportunity we've never faced before, and everybody's interests are aligned with a democratic transition, even those, let's say, left wing, governments that used to be Maduro's allies in the past, but that understand that in order to have political stability in the region, we need to solve the Venezuelan crisis, which is the most important 1 in the Western Hemisphere today.
Right. Venezuela's opposition leader Maria Corinna Machado, we appreciate your time today. Thank you. Coming up, the return of ABC News Studio's true crime docuseries, Wild Crime, the murder investigation that led the FBI and police from the wilderness of Alaska to rural Vermont.
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Welcome back to ABC News Live. 1st. ABC News Studio's popular true crime series, Wild Crime, is back. The new season looks at the 2012 murder of an Alaska woman who exposed a serial killer. 18 year old Samantha Koenig was last seen leaving her job as a barista with an unknown man in February 2012.
Police say searching police who were searching for her say they didn't have much of a lead until they got text messages from her phone.
This entire time, ever since the night of Samantha's abduction, we were monitoring activity on her phone at the FBI.
We had gone 3 weeks without anything.
And suddenly, we get this big break.
Samantha's boyfriend got a text message from Samantha's phone.
The direction that this text message gave was to go to Connor Park.
Connor Park is a dog park in Anchorage, and it said, Connor Park, sign underpick of Albert, ain't she pretty.
The search led FBI agents and police from Alaska's wilderness all the way to rural Vermont, exposing a killer and a terrifying trail of crimes. Retired FBI special agent Jolene Godin who worked on this case is joining me now for more on that. Jolene, thanks for coming on. Talk me through this. When did your team get involved
in this case?
The FBI in Anchorage was contacted pretty early on by the Anchorage police department and in order to provide assistance and and do everything that we could to to help them. And so we were involved in the case very early on in February of 2012 after Samantha disappeared.
How challenging was it to have to search for Samantha in the Alaska wilderness?
It was difficult. Alaska is vast. It is just it's a huge state, with incredible amounts of of wilderness, and Samantha disappeared, for for several weeks. We had no idea where she was. She literally just vanished and disappeared.
So it was an a massive search effort in Alaska.
So how did that end up leading you to Israel Keyes, the killer here, and then the rest of this case?
Sure. Keyes took Samantha's debit card, and he began using it. And he used it several times, and, ultimately, he started using it outside of Alaska. And the Texas Rangers, who were wonderful, joined forces with us, with the FBI down in the lower 48. And, Keyes was ultimately identified in a traffic stop by the Texas Rangers in Texas.
Now 1 of the biggest moments in this investigation was the discovery of 11 skulls that Keyes had painted in blood and then hid under the bed in his jail cell. So what was your reaction when that happened, and where did the investigation go from there?
Yes. Department of Corrections found the pieces of paper that had these hand drawn skulls and blood, and it it had really been kind of a cat and mouse, chess game with keys up until that point to identify the number of victims that he had. We'd suspected 11, but this really confirmed it because there were 11 skulls, drawn in blood. And this just continued to fuel the investigation. We knew that, we weren't just looking for Samantha, that there were many other victims out there.
And this really was just, it it fueled our motivation to continue to to do everything we could to find the victims, the people that Kees had hurt and bring them home to their families.
Alright. Jolene Godin, thank you. Wild Crime 11 Skulls begins streaming today only on Hulu. Jolene, thanks again. Coming up, after a brat summer, Charlie xcx is talking about why people might be brats.
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Alright. 'Tis the season for year end lists. And right on the heels of Spotify Wrapped, People has unveiled its list of the most intriguing people of 2024. The top 25 includes princess Kate and Caitlin Clark at 24 23 respectively, Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande holding space for the 12th spot on the list. But the top 5 begins with their costar, Bowen Yang, at number 5, Beyonce, Pedro Pascal, and Chaplin Roan at numbers 4, 3, and 2, respectively, and people's most intriguing person of 2024, it's Demi Moore, the publication writing in the horror film, The Substance, Moore's character injects herself with a potion to stay youthful, but in real life, the age defying actress, 62, doesn't fear getting older.
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Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Alright. Next to the long awaited not so surprising reveal of Billboard's greatest pop stars of the 21st century.
The list has been a slow rollout over the last several months, and this week, Billboard ranked Beyonce as its number 1 spot. Taylor Swift is number 2, and Billboard wrote of their ranking, quote, while Taylor Swift is the century's biggest pop star by the numbers, from album sales to streams to touring dominance. Our editorial staff chose Beyonce as our greatest pop star of the century based on her full 25 years of influence, evolution, and impact. They rounded out their top 5 with Rihanna, Drake, and Gaga as numbers 3, 4, and 5, respectively. Britney was 6, Adele was 10, and Katy Perry rounded out the top 25.
I mean, it's an impossible task deciding who the greatest pop stars of the last 25 years are, but I do agree with the fact that Beyonce has been around since the year 2000, if that's where we're starting this list. And it's just like you consider the surprise drop album of 2013. Single Ladies has a moment in history. Like, she's just changed the game with evidence right here. I mean, when you know the choreography behind an anchor desk, what can you argue?
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as well. Yeah.
That speaks more to me than them. But, I mean, the whole list is just full of icons. You really can't
go wrong. Exactly. And it's interesting too that Drake is in the I I he in my mind, he's not a pop star, but I'm constantly thinking in terms of, like Choreography, dancing, that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Alright. Next, after Brat Summer and Brat being named Collins Dictionary's word of the year, the head brat in charge is weighing in on her seismic 2024, Charli XCX speaking to Variety about why people might be brats. Charli says, quote, I think it's because sometimes you're overcompensating for insecurity or feeling uncomfortable, and that's where the 2 fit together. She also revealed that she had the title and concept for the album before the music came, saying, it put boundaries on the songwriting when you consider brat because immediately, if I was writing a song, it would just be like, that's not brat, and we would move on and do something that was brat. So she had the words, she had the color, and then the sound came after that.
That's interesting that she kinda gave herself that container to
work in. And apparently, it worked. I mean, she's been, like, at the top of every, like, albums of the year and Grammy nominations, things like that.
So what happened to all the ideas on the cutting room floor?
Maybe next album? Yeah. The next album is unbrat, not brat, kind. This I don't know.
Just kidding.
Yeah. Alright. Finally, here are the words that my colleagues and I struggled with the most this year. Yesterday, language learning company, Babble, and the captioning group released a list of words that news anchors, politicians, and other public figures in the US struggled with the most in 2024. And this year's trickiest words included Kamala Harris, Barry Keoghan, Chapel Roan, and Zendaya.
There were also some scientific slip ups like semaglutide, the drug in weight loss medications, and speculos 3 b, which is a newly discovered exoplanet, and even 1 breed of dog, the coiker hunche, which dug its way into the zeitgeist because of Shohei Ohtani, that's the pitcher who has that dog. Look at that last word. I mean yeah. Cuckoo cuckoo what? Yeah.
Kookaburra. I know. I know.
I'll just I'll leave that 1 to you. Well, again, thank you, friend.
Thanks, Diane.
And thanks, Kate, for making us rap early. I'm Diane Maseno. The news never stops, and neither do we. We have a lot more news right after the break. Stay with us.
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Hi. I'm Diana Macedo. Today on ABC News Live, first, the growing firestorm over the defense secretary nominee. Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight for the job amid GOP concerns over allegations of financial and sexual misconduct. How Hegseth is responding as president-elect Trump reportedly considers other options.
The blizzard warning triggering whiteout conditions. A fast moving storm has 100,000,000 people on alert from the Great Lakes to the northeast. The dangerous conditions on the roads as bitter cold temperatures move in. And the urgent manhunt for a killer. New York City police are looking for the man who gunned down the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, calling it a targeted attack.
The new video showing the suspect minutes before the shooting and the possible message police found on shell casings near the scene. In a deadly school shooting in California, 2 kindergarteners are in critical condition after a gunman opened fire at an elementary school near Sacramento. The latest on the investigation and what police are saying about the shooter. But first, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected on Capitol Hill today to discuss their agenda for reducing regulations and the size of the federal government. President-elect Trump has charged Musk and Ramaswami with leading a department of government efficiency.
Meanwhile, defense secretary nominee Pete Hegsetz is also back on the hill. The former Fox News host is vowing not to back down amid concerns about his alleged misconduct. He spoke on Capitol Hill today saying he has Trump's support.
What did president-elect Trump tell you, mister Hegseth?
He's behind us all the way. Spoke to him this morning.
Hegseth also says he'll quit drinking while serving in Trump's cabinet. ABC News senior reporter Katherine Faulders joins me from West Palm Beach, Florida with the latest on that. Katherine, Hegseth can only lose the support of 3 Republican senators and still get the job. And you say Trump's team is now focusing on where female Republicans stand. What are you hearing about that?
Yeah. We're told by sources that the focus of Trump's political team today behind the scenes is trying to figure out where all of the Republican women senators stand. There's been some telegraphing back to top Trump advisers that, many of these women, Republican senators would vote no on HEGCEF, but the reality is that hasn't been conveyed, at least in part by a lot of those offices back to the Trump team. So, they're trying to figure that out at least today where everybody stands on this. And it's interesting because Joni Ernst, of course, who Hegsef has been meeting with on Capitol Hill, who is rumored to potentially be 1 of the if hegseth drops out, said on Fox News just moments ago that, she wasn't at a yes yet, essentially, that that she's, noncommittal on whether or not she will vote for Hegseth.
So, obviously, we know that to be the the case as he continues up on Capitol Hill with all of these meetings trying to win over senators, convince them that he's the right person for the job. So I think we will have a better sense at least by the end of today where a lot of these offices, where a lot of these senators, particularly the women, stand on this, maybe not publicly, but at least privately back to the Trump team. I think it's notable, Diane. You mentioned what Hegseth was saying about his conversations with Donald Trump. Trump hasn't come out and publicly supported him.
He hasn't said that publicly. We're just hearing what he said through HEGSED. So that's also notable, and we're also reporting that Trump, unlike what he did with Matt Gaetz, he's not working the phones trying to get senators to vote for HEGSED. He's letting this all play out, and and the ball is really in HEGSED's court to convince
them. Now, Catherine, a source close to the president says that he's talking about possible preemptive pardons for people who might be targeted by the incoming Trump administration. So who's on that list, and how significant is it that president Biden's even considering this given the backlash against the pardon of his own son?
Right. So the reporting, about these discussions comes, of course, after president Biden pardoned Hunter Biden, but that pardon was very broad. It covered a 10 year period, not just the, recent alleged crimes that we've been discussing as it relates to Hunter Biden. So the conversations that have been happening behind the scenes related to other pardons have focused on some people like doctor Fauci, for example, who Trump has attacked constantly over, COVID policies. Liz, Cheney has been in those conversations, people who Trump has been critical of and, essentially, of course, as Trump has vowed to prosecute and have his department of justice prosecute his political enemies.
So there are discussions about that occurring. What that looks like, we don't know yet. Of course, that is still all going on behind the scenes, but something that you probably will see, of course, before Biden leaves office. And
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected to discuss their agenda for reducing regulations on Capitol Hill today. What can we expect to hear there?
Yeah. So they're having a number of meetings up on Capitol Hill, and I'll read you Diana's reporting that's just coming in from our Ben Siegel who caught up with Elon Musk in between his meetings on Capitol Hill. He said, Musk said that I think we should, make sure we spend the public's money well. So, essentially, not many details on how they're going to do this within this department of government efficiency, that they're creating, which will be outside of the government, but that's basically their mission here that they're talking to senators about. I think that many people on Capitol Hill have a lot of questions about how this will work, how they will slash funding given they're not inside the government.
Those are all questions, that senators will want answered.
Alright. Catherine Faulders in West Palm Beach. Thank you.
And I wanna bring in Democratic congresswoman Susan Del Bene of Washington now for more. Congresswoman, thank you for coming on. In a few hours, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami will be there on Capitol Hill to pitch lawmakers on their ideas for this new department of government efficiency. Now Musk has vowed to dismantle thousands of federal regulations. He's proposed to leading agencies outright, including the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
Would you support any of the ideas you've heard them discuss so far?
Well, let's be clear. Congress makes decisions about, what we should do going forward in terms of where we need to invest, how we invest in programs. So there can be advice that comes in, from other organizations, and they can provide information. But we have an oversight role of what's happening, in the administration, and I think it's important that we use that role, that we in each of our committees have oversight role, but we are making decisions on how to make sure that government resources are used efficiently and effectively.
Now the US faces more than $36,000,000,000 in debt from spending involving presidents from both parties, a trillion, I should say. So is it a time to take a serious look at spending?
I think it's incredibly important. And in fact, here we are standing today with a government shutdown potentially on December 20th unless the government's funded. And I think that we should be funding the government for a whole year at a time and not doing these short term continuing resolutions, which unfortunately Republicans wanna do again. This is import it's important that congress plays its does its job and plays the role of making sure we're deciding where we are going to invest, that we do that every year. We do it on time.
That's 1 of the most fiscally responsible things we can do.
Now you proposed legislation to prevent president-elect Trump from enacting tariffs by using the justification of a national emergency.
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lame duck session. Democrats soon will have no majorities. Is there any chance of bipartisan support for this bill?
Well, there has been bipartisan support for the legislation. And I think because congress has an important role to play in having a voice on what happens with tariffs, we have an important role to play on trade. And instead of allowing, the president to take unilateral action on tariffs, this is a place where congress needs to be consulted. And I just this legislation is about making sure that the administration doesn't try to go around congress in a way that was not intended. So I wanna make sure that we make that clear, and move legislation to make that clear so they aren't trying to go around congress using legislation that wasn't intended for this purpose.
Now then president Trump put tariffs on China in 2018. President Biden has had 4 years to rescind those, and he hasn't. So do you support those tariffs, and how are what Trump's proposing now any different?
Well, let's be clear. These unilateral tariffs that, Trump is talking about are gonna be taxes on American consumers. They're gonna affect our small businesses and a lot of our exporters, which are small businesses. There's gonna be retaliation from other countries that will not only continue to drive up costs for, folks right here at home, but will make it harder and harder for, American businesses to do businesses overseas. So there are big consequences to putting in place these policies, and congress, again, has an important role to play and needs to be consulted and be part of this.
But he's looking at raising prices on consumers and in a time when, we know that affordability and costs are 1 of the most important issues to Americans across the country. Just kind of starting tariff wars, raising costs on consumers moves us in the wrong direction.
So do you think it was a mistake for president Biden not to reverse those tariffs on China, or do you support those tariffs?
I think that, again, congress needs to be consulted when we look at these policies going forward, and that we need to do policies that make sense in terms of supporting American workers and American business, and making sure that we support, trade rules that are fair.
Alright. Democratic congresswoman Susan Del Bene, we appreciate your time today. Thank you.
Thank you.
And a fast moving winter storm is bringing whiteout conditions and more snow from the Great Lakes to the northeast. Millions of people are under snow alert to several feet of snow piling up on the roads. Taylor Anthony of our ABC News affiliate in Buffalo has the latest on that. Hi, Taylor.
Good morning, Diane. Western New York is really getting that snowfall today. We have snow blowing in some areas causing whiteout conditions, so really low visibility. And we also have localized lake effect snow about southeast of the lakes, so the roads are slick. It is advised to travel with caution if you have to be out on the roads.
The snow will be continuing off and on throughout the day, so really just stay prepared for those changing conditions. Back to you, Diane.
Taylor Anthony, thank you. And a new snowstorm has 100,000,000 people on alert across several states. Meteorologist Britney Bell of our ABC station here in New York is tracking the forecast for us. Britney, what do you got for us?
Diane, the snow is not letting up. We'll have to deal with this around throughout this afternoon and this evening, potentially into early tomorrow morning. So we have snow that continues to fall around the Great Lakes, New England, and the mid then the mid Atlantic, even looking at showers too as far south as Washington DC. We have winter weather alerts stretching from Michigan towards Maine down towards Western New York, and check out West Virginia and extreme Western Maryland. There's a blizzard warning in effect for whiteout conditions that could lead to dangerous travel, even a wind advisory.
More about the winds in just a second. But the snow forecast over the next 48 hours on the lower end, 3 to 6 inches. I wanna point out the lake effect snow too. So for Lake Erie, 6 to 12 inches of snow is possible, but 1 to 2 feet of extra snow on top of the lake effect snow that already fell earlier this week, that could fall near spots like Watertown. Now back over to the winds, could gust as high as 45 to 55 miles per hour, prompting those wind advisories, for Washington DC, close to 50 mile per hour gust and similar conditions for New York City.
Now once you factor in cold temperatures, we're in for frigid real fill numbers dipping below 0 in some areas. It could feel like 5 below in Asheville, even Birmingham, a Realfield temperature up 8 degrees early tomorrow morning. Diane?
Alright. Meteorologist Britney Bell, thank you. Mhmm.
And police are closing in on the identity of the suspect who gunned down UnitedHealth Care CEO outside a New York City hotel. Investigators released new video of the suspect riding a bike out of Central Park just moments after the shooting. Police say Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when that gunman approached from behind and fired several rounds. Now authorities say the shooter left clues at the scene that suggest he may have been angry with the insurance industry. ABC's Morgan Norwood joins us now.
Morgan, I know you were there at the scene yesterday. What's the latest on this search?
Yeah. Of course, police are still looking for this particular suspect. We know that they've thrown a number of different resources out there to try to pinpoint him. In the past, literally, 30 seconds, we can't get these images up for you just yet, but we just got new images that police released of the suspect. In it, you see the gunman's face a little bit more clearly.
We're working to turn those around for you, but we're also learning at this hour, Diane, that authorities are searching a hostel on the upper west side right here in New York City where they believe the suspect had been staying. Again, we talked about, just an hour ago how authorities were working to get a search warrant. They are searching that place as we speak. It does come as we get new doorbell camera video showing the suspect riding on that ebike around the upper west side. So it appears that they have that search zone where they know, that he might have been staying.
The upper west side seems to be consistent. Authorities trying to figure out if he had that ebike ready, before his escape, that eyewitness also snapping a photo of him as he was taking off. So these sightings, again, are really critical to police as they're trying to figure out where he was and where he is at this hour. Yeah.
And, Morgan, police are also saying they found writing on bullet casings around the scene. How's that contributing to the investigation?
Yeah. A treasure trove of evidence left behind at the scene. Some of it helping authorities piece together a motive. Investigators finding the words deny, defend, and depose. It's written on 3 shell casings that were found at the scene, which it could indicate some sort of dissatisfaction with the UnitedHealthcare or the healthcare industry, insurance industry as a whole.
Police are now working with Thompson's family and his colleagues to determine if he had received any specific death threats, leading up to that shooting. Diane.
Alright. Morgan Norwood, thank you.
And investigators are trying to determine a motive after a deadly shooting at a religious elementary school in California. A gunman opened fire at the Feather River Adventist School in Oroville critically injuring 2 young students before killing himself. ABC's Melissa Adan is in Oroville with the latest on that case. Melissa?
Diane, the FBI now teaming up with local authorities here in Butte County, California. They are sharing some more of a sort of timeline, what they know so far about that suspect. They have ID'd the suspect, but are not yet sharing their identity. Sharing with us, however, that the suspect was dropped off here at the school with a ride share, then walked in to have a meeting with the school's principal. The principal then telling authorities that he did not suspect any red flags, nothing alarming during their meeting.
They discussed possibly enrolling a child here at the school. Well, moments after that, that's when witnesses say that the shooter walked outside into the class room area and shot at 2 students shortly after that, turning the gun onto themselves. Well, those 2 students, ages 56, kindergarten boys, they were rushed to the hospital. They are in extremely critical condition, and we're awaiting updates, of course, for their recovery. Diane?
Melissa, Adan, thank you.
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Welcome back to ABC News Live First. Aid groups are raising concerns about the dire situation in Sudan. UNICEF reports an estimated 5,000,000 children have been displaced in the ongoing civil war, making it the largest child displacement crisis on Earth. Tens of 1,000 have been killed and 1,000,000 forced from their homes since the fighting between Sudan's military and paramilitary leaders broke out last April. Now aid groups say the country's overcrowded displacement camps lack adequate shelter, sanitation, and health care services, putting children at greater risk of malnutrition and disease.
UNICEF spokesperson Tess Ingram joins me now from Gedareff to Dan for more on this. Tess, thank you for joining us.
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about what you're seeing there. What are the biggest issues affecting Sudanese children right now?
As you said, this is really at its heart a displacement and protection crisis. We're seeing the world's largest child displacement crisis in Sudan. There's more children on the run here from conflict than anywhere else in the world. 5,000,000 children fleeing their homes right across the country. And where I am here in the east of Sudan, it's a place where children are coming to seeking safety and living in displacement camps.
I spent time at some of those camps in the last few days and sat down with children to hear their experiences. And, really, Diana, it is harrowing. Every child had a different version of the same terror of having to flee their homes as the fighting descended, of their homes being looted, of threats of violence, including sexual violence, and, of course, of of loved ones being killed. So this really is, a protection crisis, a displacement crisis. And then on top of that, we're, of course, we're seeing issues with with humanitarian agencies like UNICEF being able to deliver aid, and and that's resulting in a humanitarian crisis on the ground as well.
What are the people at these displacement sites telling you about the conditions there and and how they're coping with all of this?
I think the first thing to note is that the children of Sudan are brilliant. They're intelligent and resourceful and hopeful for their future. I'm really inspired by the conversations that I've had with them this week after the hardship that they've experienced over nearly 20 months of war. Yesterday, I was in a group of 11 girls, all about 15, 16 years old, and they were telling me of of their journeys to here to Casa Leroy and Gadara, the area that I'm in. And there was this 1 girl, Montana, who's 15 years old, who told me about hiding in a cupboard while soldiers raided her house because she was terrified that they were going to take her because they said, we're looking for girls.
And next door, they threatened to take her friend and and neighbor. So she had been through a very scary, scary event, but she was now in this displacement site supported by UNICEF, receiving mental health and psychosocial support and back learning in school. And I asked her, what do you want now? And all she said was stop the war.
So what kind of aid is UNICEF providing, and why has it been so hard to get that aid to those who need it?
Yeah. That's a great question, and it really has been difficult. Sudan's an enormous country, and the needs are great. We need to bring people water, nutrition supplies, clothes, all sorts of things. And getting across the country requires us to get permission, and we are not able to get that government permission to access all areas.
So the families that are within areas where the fighting is particularly intense or where UNICEF hasn't been able to get permission to reach. They're really struggling the hardest because they haven't been able to get that life saving aid that they need. And 1 example is a place called Zamzam, which is a displacement camp in the west of the country, and their famine has been declared. We already know that children there are starving, that they desperately need these nutrition supplies. And, of course, famine looms in other parts of the country, so it's really critical that we get those government permissions to move across Sudan to bring children this life saving aid wherever they need it.
And UNICEF says the national vaccination coverage dropped from 85% before the war to approximately 50%, some areas even as low as 30%. How worried you about that?
The outbreak of diseases is also a real threat for children here in Sudan, cholera, malaria. It's scary because of that decline in vaccination coverage because of the war, and also because of the destruction of health services. We've seen, you know, more than a 150 schools and hospitals attacked, as of the beginning of October this year. And, you know, health services, water points, marketplaces, they've also fallen victims to the fighting. And without these essential services, like health care, like hospitals, children really are vulnerable to the outbreak of diseases, particularly if they aren't vaccinated.
So UNICEF has been bringing in vaccines, and we are trying to get those across the country. But, again, we need the safety, the security, and the permissions to be able to do that.
Alright. UNICEF spokesperson Tess Ingram, thank you. Coming up, new details of the death of a whistleblower. What new audio tapes could reveal about the decades old mystery?
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Diane, these tapes, really do shed some new light on a case that has been a mystery for 50 years. There has been an official narrative for those 5 decades, but it's 1 that Karen Silkwood's family and even a number of investigators were never comfortable with. It was a story that gripped the nation.
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Oh, wow.
And so we're gonna take you to that scene. We're there with the investigators, and then we're there with Karen Silkwood's son to reveal those findings. And and it's fascinating, Diane, because he was so young when his mother died. I mean, she was only 28. But when he thinks of his mother, he told us he doesn't see her face.
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Oh, wow. Incredible to be able to relook at this case so many decades later and expose potentially new findings and groundbreaking findings here. Erin, thank you. And for more on this ABC News investigation, watch the latest episode of Impact by Night Nightline. What happened to Karen Silkwood?
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Hi. I'm Diana Macedo today on ABC News Live. First, the growing firestorm over the defense secretary nominee. Pete Hegseth is vowing to fight for the job amid GOP concerns over allegations of financial and sexual misconduct. How Hegseth is responding as president-elect Trump reportedly considers other options.
The blizzard warning triggering whiteout conditions. A fast moving storm has 100,000,000 people on alert from the Great Lakes to the northeast. The dangerous conditions on the roads as more bitter cold temperatures move in. And the urgent manhunt for a killer. New York City police are looking for the man who gunned down the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, calling it a targeted attack.
A new video showing the suspect minutes before the shooting and the possible message police found on shell casings near the scene. And a deadly school shooting in California. 2 kindergarteners are in critical condition after a gunman opened fire at an elementary school near Sacramento. The latest on the investigation and what police are saying about the shooter. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected on Capitol Hill today to discuss their agenda for reducing regulations and the size of the federal government.
President-elect Trump has charged Musk and Ramaswami with leading a department of government efficiency. Meanwhile, defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth is also expected to be back on the hill. The former Fox News host is vowing not to back down amid concerns about his alleged misconduct. Hegseth also says he'll quit drinking while serving in Trump's cabinet. And ABC's Jay O'Brien joins me from Capitol Hill along with ABC News senior reporter Katherine Faulders for more on all of that.
Katherine, Hegseth can only lose the support of 3 Republican senators and still get the job. He says Trump has his back, but sources tell ABC News Trump's also considering other options. So what are you watching for today, and what are you hearing from the Trump transition team?
Yeah. And I think it's notable that Trump himself hasn't come out and said anything, in support of Hegseth here. And our reporting this morning is that unlike with Matt Gaetz, for example, where Trump was working the phones and calling senators, he's not doing that with Pete Hegseth here. There's a realization inside the Trump transition that his potential nomination might not make it through. Now I will say that I was just on the phone, with a source close to the Trump transition team that said, they really are digging their heels in on Hegsa's nomination, that they're feeling more confident today than they were yesterday, for example.
But the reality is, and they acknowledge this internally, that it's going to come down to, whether or not he has the votes, and they're focused specifically on those women Republican senators. They don't have a good gage on how all of the women Republicans would vote. So that is a focus of the Trump transition team today. Can they get a good sense of that? And once they do get a good sense of that, does that mean that his nomination won't go through?
I think we'll have a better sense by the end of the day. Of course, he's up there on Capitol Hill, where Jay is, for meetings again today.
So, Jay, what does Hegseth need to do to win enough support from Republican senators?
Well, as Kathryn just mentioned, he really needs to focus on those women Republican senators, in particular, Joni Ernst. She is seen as kind of a bellwether here. There are different senators who have different concerns about HEGSETH, and the concerns vary. But Joni Ernst is a sexual assault survivor. She's a combat veteran, and she met with Pete Hegseth yesterday.
And to give you a sense of the challenges that Pete Hegseth faces here because, a, he's got those allegations of sexual assault and misconduct, and, b, he has said that, he doesn't believe women should serve in combat roles. 2 things that are key to Joni Ernst's bio here. When I asked Joni Ernst if Pete Hegseth said anything to alleviate some of the concerns she might have as him at the top of the Department of Defense. She didn't answer that question. All she told reporters is that she and Hegseth, a, share a history of service to this country because Hegseth is a veteran as well, and b, that she had a, quote, frank and thorough conversation with Pete Hegseth.
So that's not a ringing endorsement. That's not her wrapping her arms around Pete Hegseth and saying, Pete Hegseth has my vote. So he's gotta go senator by senator here and try to address some of their concerns. He's doing that by saying he's a changed man, and he's also doing that by something you alluded to yesterday, which we learned from senator Eric Schmidt, which is that Hegseth is going around to senators and saying that he will not drink if he becomes the secretary of defense. And there are some senators like Schmidt, a Republican, who say that that argument is working on them and that they view that as a good faith argument.
There are others who say they still have concerns, Diana.
Jay, what can
you tell us about the agenda Musk and are bringing to congressional republicans today? And how do you expect it'll go over?
Well, this is the Department of Government Efficiency Caucus meeting today, the Doge, quote, unquote, caucus. And Ramos and Musk have a list of high flying priority items. Some of them are cutting things like 1 to $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal budget. It's unclear if that would really be successful up here on Capitol Hill. That is a tall order.
And then they have some other things that we've already heard lawmakers, even 1 democrat so far, say that they can get behind, like cutting certain federal agencies and what they view as excess in those agencies today, lack of, quote, unquote, efficiency, and also even little things like bringing federal employees who might be working remote back to federal office buildings in Washington DC, which some of them are large part empty, I can tell you from my experience here. So there are some things that lawmakers can get behind. You can imagine Musk and Ramaswami are gonna pitch Republicans on everything today. It's just unclear how much of their agenda ultimately is gonna be able to get through this building.
Alright. Jay O'Brien, Katherine Faulders, thank you both.
And a fast moving winter storm is bringing whiteout conditions and more snow from the Great Lakes to the northeast. Millions of people are under snow alert to several feet of snow is piling up on the roads. ABC's Trevor Alt is in Watertown, New York near the Canadian border. Hi, Trevor.
Hey, Darnell. And so millions of
people are still under wind and snow alerts. And where we are in Watertown, we are once again under a winter storm warning. We've got all this snow that was left behind from the first system earlier this week. Now we've got a second system moving through. Could easily, in some areas, drop another foot or 2 of snow.
And what makes it especially dangerous is strong wind gust up to 50 miles an hour. We have been watching whiteout conditions sweeping across the plains into the Midwest. We've sadly seen a number of incidents that have been deadly crashes out there on the roads. Even today, we've been seeing another incident involving a semi on I90 south of Buffalo backing up traffic westbound, and there's a fear that it could get even worse as we head into the day, particularly Western New York. Northern New York where we are could be really dicey out there on the roads.
But we also wanna remind everyone that there are risks to this weather even if you are not driving. Officials in Buffalo say this week, 2 people died after suffering heart attacks while shoveling and snow blowing. It's a good thing to be aware of for your older family members. Diane?
Good thing to know. Trevor Alt, thank you.
And a new snowstorm has 100,000,000 people on alert across several states. Meteorologist Britney Bell of our ABC station here in New York is tracking the forecast for us. Britney, what do you got for us?
Diane, the snow is not letting up. We'll have to deal with this around throughout this afternoon and this evening, potentially into early tomorrow morning. So we have snow that continues to fall around the Great Lakes, New England, and the mid then the mid Atlantic, even looking at showers too as far south as Washington DC. We have winter weather alerts stretching from Michigan towards Maine down towards Western New York, and check out West Virginia and extreme Western Maryland. There's a blizzard warning in effect for whiteout conditions that could lead to dangerous travel, even a wind advisory.
More about the winds in just a second. With the snow forecast over the next 48 hours on the lower end, 3 to 6 inches, I wanna point out the lake effect snow too. So for Lake Erie, 6 to 12 inches of snow is possible, but 1 to 2 feet of extra snow on top of the lake effect snow that already fell earlier this week, that could fall near spots like Watertown. Now back over to the winds, could gust as high as 45 to 55 miles per hour, prompting those wind advisories, for Washington DC, close to 50 mile per hour gust and similar conditions for New York City. Now once you factor in cold temperatures, we're in for frigid real fill numbers dipping below 0 in some areas.
It could feel like 5 below in Asheville, even Birmingham, a real fill temperature of 8 degrees early tomorrow morning. Diane?
Alright. Meteorologist Britney Bell, thank you. Mhmm.
And police are closing in on the identity of the suspect who gunned down UnitedHealthcare CEO outside a New York City hotel. Investigators released new video of the suspect riding a bike outside Central Park moments after the shooting. Police say Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when the gunman approached from behind and fired several rounds. Now authorities say the shooter left clues at the scene that suggest he may have been angry with the insurance industry. ABC's Morgan Norwood joins us now for more on that.
Morgan, what's the latest on the search for this man?
Diane, as you just laid out, police now appear to be closing in on identifying, the shooter, which is, of course, key to tracking him down. They're trying to get a search warrant on a place that they believe he might have been staying at in the city. We're unsure if that's a hotel, if that's an apartment. That's unclear at this point, but it comes as we just saw that Nuke doorbell camera video. It shows the suspect riding that ebike on the upper west side.
He's wearing that all black hoodie, that black face mask. We also see him carrying an ebike battery, and that's key because authorities think that he may have made his getaway through Central Park. They're trying to figure out if he had that bike ready before this attack. An eyewitness also snapping a photo of him as he took off. The these sightings and the reason why I point that out is that they're so critical to police when it comes to piecing together a timeline, placing him in different areas, trying to narrow down that search zone, and ultimately find out where he's holed up.
It seems like so much planning went into this. And, Morgan, we've got to talk about the writing police say they found on the bullet casings. What does that tell you in terms of motive?
Yeah. You know, he left behind a treasure trove of evidence, at the scene. And while he does remain on the run, this is the secondary, investigation that police are trying to figure out what the motive is in this particular situation. Investigators finding the words deny, defend, and depose written on those 3 shell casings found at the scene, which could indicate Diane some level of dissatisfaction with the UnitedHealthcare or just the health care industry and insurance industry as a whole. Police are now working with Thompson's family and colleagues to determine if he had received any specific threats in the days leading up to this attack, Diane.
Alright. Morgan Norwood, thank you.
And investigators are trying to determine a motive for a deadly shooting at a religious elementary school in California as well. A gunman opened fire at the Feather River Adventist School in Oroville, critically injuring 2 young students before killing himself. ABC's Melissa Adan is there. Melissa, what's the latest on this investigation?
Yes, Diane. So the FBI is now teaming up with the local authorities here in Butte County, California. We've been told that the suspect has been ID'd. They are not releasing the suspect's ID, but here's what they know so far, that this suspect was dropped off here at the school in a rideshare, then had a meeting with the principal. They seemed to discuss about the possibility of enrolling a student.
The principal then telling authorities that he didn't see any red flags with that meeting, but shortly after that is when that suspect came out here to the campus outside these classrooms and then opened fire shooting and those shots hitting 2 children. Diane?
So, Melissa, what more do we know about the condition of these 2 kindergarteners who were shot?
Absolutely. So as far as those kindergarteners, they were hospitalized. They are, males, boys, ages 56. We are told they're in extremely critical condition. We've been following up to see, they've been going, having medical procedures, So we're waiting on updates there.
The local pastor nearby saying how the community here is praying for them. The church nearby had opened up their doors as kinda like the family reunification area following, of course, the shooting, sharing with us how traumatic it has all been. And 1 possible theory, Diane, I do wanna mention that police are sharing is that possibly the suspect may have targeted the school in particular because of its religious affiliation. Diane?
Alright. Melissa, Adan, thank you.
And the US is threatening sanctions as authorities in the country of Georgia crackdown on a growing protest movement. Protesters are calling for an end to the government after it suspended negotiations to join the European Union. They say the governing party is turning Georgia back toward Russia and authoritarianism. Now police have raided opposition party offices, detaining its leader as the capital of Tbilisi's bracing for an 8th day of protests. ABC's Patrick Rievel is monitoring all of that from London.
Patrick, what's the latest here, and how significant is it to see over a week now of demonstrations?
Hi, Danielle. I mean, this crisis in Georgia does appear to still be escalating. We saw, again, a dramatic night of protests in Georgia last night for the 7th consecutive night. And as you say, they are preparing for another night of protests this evening. And so for a week now, tens of thousands of people have been gathering in the center of the capital Tbilisi and clashing with riot police who've been trying to violently disperse them.
Police have been using water cannons, or protesters have been unleashing these big barrages of fireworks. And last night did appear to be 1 of the largest protests so far. And as you say, this crisis was sparked when the ruling Georgian dream party said it was suspending efforts for Georgia to join the European Union. The protesters oppose what they see as the government's attempts to turn Georgia away from Europe and down an authoritarian path, moving it back towards Russia. The government, though, has so far stepped up efforts to quash the protests, arresting a key opposition leader and raiding opposition group's offices.
The situation really does strongly resemble what happened in Ukraine back in 2014 during its revolution. People on the streets in Georgia see this as a struggle to stop their country following a model of Vladimir Putin's Russia. Ukraine's president Zelensky overnight imposed sanctions on figures from Georgia's ruling party saying that they are surrendering the country to Putin. And now the US, as you say, is overnight also warning that it is preparing potential sanctions. But Georgia's prime minister today is defiant saying that he will eradicate the opposition, Diane.
Alright. Patrick Rievel in London. Thank you.
Amnesty International is accusing Israel of committing genocide in Gaza. The group says Israel made deliberate efforts to destroy Palestinians through deadly attacks, destruction of infrastructure, and blocking aid. Israel's foreign minister says, the report is fabricated and entirely false. Meanwhile, 1 week into the Lebanon ceasefire, the IDF is again warning residents not to return to their homes. ABC's chief national correspondent, Matt Gutman, is on the border of Israel and Lebanon with the latest there.
Hey, Diane. We are in the kibbutz of Manara, just in the north of Israel. About a 125 yards to my left is the Lebanese border. Nobody lives here anymore, since October 8th when Hezbollah opened fire on these communities in the north, and it's basically become a military garrison since then. You can see the ammo crates the Israeli military left behind.
Community leaders here tell us that about 75% of the buildings here were either damaged or destroyed. And on the outside, I mean, this building looks pretty much intact, but I wanna show you something, what it looks like on the inside. Hezbollah militants just down the hill fired, anti tank missiles at most of these houses. Basically, everything on this row and on the other side as well. The inside, the damage is obviously extensive.
This is what's left of a light fixture over there as a television, obviously, with windows blown out. I can see the glass melted over on this side. There's something I wanna show you, and that is the view here to the valley below. You have our cameraman, Omer, turn. You can see that column of smoke over there.
That's the Israeli military, blowing something up. We've seen a number of those columns of smoke. And virtually every building that we have been able to see on the other side of the border here inside Lebanon has been destroyed. At this point, we understand the negotiations over this 60 day ceasefire are ongoing. There have been some complaints and allegations on both sides of violation of the ceasefire.
The US continues to be deeply, involved in these talks, which are actually ongoing in Lebanon today as our ceasefire and hostage release negotiations for Gaza. There are still about 90 some Israeli hostages remaining in Gaza, and Israeli officials and Hamas officials seem to be indicating, much more optimism than probably at any time over the past year that a deal over the Gaza issue can also be hammered out. So it looks like we are on the road to some quiet in both of the theaters of war here in Lebanon, just where we are, and in the south in Gaza. Diane?
Matt Gutman, thank you.
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Airline executives are under pressure after a turbulent hearing on Capitol Hill over the fees that make your airfare more expensive.
Nobody enjoys flying in your airlines. It's a it's a disaster. You charge people fees that they know nothing about. You harass them to death.
A senate subcommittee grilling executives over fees charged for early boarding, better seats, and other conveniences, voicing many travelers' frustrations.
They feel with more than understandable justification that they are piggy banks to be shaken down by these skyrocketing fees that seem to have no connection to any cost that the airlines incur.
Senators claim there's a lack of transparency, saying vague pricing makes it hard for customers to budget.
We're all captives on your airplanes at a certain point, And you just say, you wanna pick a seat. We're just gonna charge you some random amount more.
But executives rebutting those claims.
Optional services by definition are not so called junk fees as optional services are not required to travel.
It has never been more affordable to fly. Over time, overall air airfares have gone down.
Senators also say some budget airlines have run a kind of bounty program, paying employees extra to stop passengers if their bags fail to meet certain requirements.
Your airlines are paying 1,000,000 of dollars to your employees to harass people who've already paid. They're there in line because they've already paid. It's unbelievable.
Now there are already some changes that passengers should know about. A new government regulation took effect in October that requires airlines to automatically refund you within 7 business days if your domestic flight is delayed more than 3 hours and you choose not to fly. The transportation department is also proposing a new rule today that would require airlines pay at least $200 in cash refunds if your trip is severely disrupted and it's the airline's fault. Most airlines do already provide refunds, and they say this rule could drive up ticket prices. Diane.
Alright. ABC's Elizabeth Schulzey, thank you.
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They also recently transported calves from a farm to an animal sanctuary together for a video that could perhaps be their final post for the dodo. Of course, though, it does not sound like they'll ever stop loving and helping animals as a team. We've
just gotten to have so many fun adventures together, and I feel really lucky for that.
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The new video showing the suspect just minutes before the shooting. And critical condition, 2 kindergartners fighting for their after a shooting at a California elementary school. What police are now saying about the gunman. And good afternoon, everyone. I'm Keira Phillips.
They are rich. They know business, and now the president-elect wants them to help streamline our government. So Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected on Capitol Hill today to tell us exactly how they plan to do that. Trump has charged the 2 successful entrepreneurs with leading a department of government efficiency. Then there's the embattled defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth.
He's back on the hill doubling down amid concerns about his alleged misconduct and drinking, something he vows to give up if he becomes the secretary of defense.
What did president-elect Trump tell you, mister Hayside?
He's behind us all the way. Spoke to him this morning.
RJ O'Brien joins us now from Capitol Hill along with our White House correspondent, Mary Alice Parks. Mary Alice, a source, close to president Biden, says he's talking about possible preemptive pardons for people who might be targeted by the incoming Trump administration. Who's on the list?
Yeah, Kira. Another major headline this morning. This would be an extraordinary step from the Biden White House. Look, it would be in response, though, Democrats say, to extraordinary threats that president-elect Trump has made about potentially using the power of the FBI or the Department of Justice to go after political opponents. And so what we know now is that Biden White House senior aids are really considering the idea of preemptive pardons for people like general Mark Milley, the former chair of the joint chiefs of staff who Republicans have blasted for his role during the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
People like Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney who sat there on the January 6th select committee. We know that president-elect Trump, while he was campaigning, said explicitly in social media posts and on the campaign trail, he thought people on that committee should go to jail. So the question now, would the White House or the current White House be willing to grant sweeping preemptive pardons even to people who are not actually accused right now of any real crimes, but who the White House is worried could be facing retaliation from an incoming Trump administration, Kira.
Alright. Let's go now to Musk and Rameshwarmi. They'll be up on the hill talking about this new department, that Trump wants them to lead. Musk saying, I think we should make sure we spend the public's money well. Sounds good.
How are they gonna do it?
Yeah. This is a really big question, and it's something that, of course, they are getting a lot of, sort of pressure from to give real answers, especially because, essentially, they're setting up a new government agency or a sort of a quasi agency to work on cutting government spending. So a lot of questions there. Big questions about what they would do in terms of government contracts and government subsidies because Elon Musk, of course, and his companies right now enjoy 1,000,000,000 of dollars in government contracts. So he needs to make sure that he's not, sort of pursuing cuts to federal spending that look, hypocritical to sort of government contract work that his companies enjoy.
And, of course, here in Washington and around the country, though, Kira, a lot of questions about what the 2 would propose in terms of the federal workforce. Both have made big sweeping threats about wanting to downsize the federal workforce, but what could that mean in terms of, civilian employees who have union protections, many of whom, tens of thousands of whom work all around the country outside of DC and who are worried about whether their jobs could be on the line.
Alright, Jay. Let's talk about Hegseth now. He says Trump has his back, but sources say there are still some concerns on his behalf and also other Republican senators, that still need to be convinced. What do you know?
Yeah. He said that to me just moments ago, Kira, as he was meeting with senator Mike Rounds in Rounds' office. I asked Hegseth what Trump told him earlier today because he said he and president-elect Trump spoke at the beginning of the day, and he said that Trump, as you played in that sound, is behind him. But there are Republican senators at this hour who are deeply concerned about Hegseth's nomination. They are concerned about accusations of sexual assault and sexual misconduct with hedge which Hegseth denies.
They're concerned about allegations of mismanagement of veterans charities, of drinking issues. Hegseth has said he doesn't have a drinking problem and won't drink if he becomes the secretary of defense. Hegseth met yesterday with senator Joni Ernst, considered although she hasn't really said publicly 1 way or the other, but considered to be 1 of the key votes that Hegseth really needs to work on here. Here is what senator Ernst told Fox News earlier today about if she's behind president-elect Trump's pick to lead the Department of Defense.
Okay. It doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten to a yes. If I'm wrong about that, correct me. And if that is the case, it sounds to me as if the hearing will be critical, for his nomination. Am I right about that?
I think I think you are right.
And Ernst told our Kelsey Walsh and other reporters just moments ago as she stepped out of the gaggle of the Doge caucus where she was meeting with Vivek Ramaswami about what you were just talking with Mary Alice about, that she had a, quote, frank and thorough conversation with Pete Hegseth, but doesn't go beyond that to say that the conversation was positive or ended with her as a yes vote. So, clearly, Pete Hegseth, if he wants to shore up support amongst Republican senators, still has a distance to go, Kira.
Yeah. He sure does. Well, Jay, the secret service director, is being grilled by a house panel investigating, the July assassination attempt on president-elect Trump, and, apparently, the back and forth got pretty, intense. What do we know?
Yeah. Fiery exchange. This was a hearing that the secret service plan to come forward and say that they had made substantive changes to their protocol to prevent what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania from ever happening again. Something that lawmakers and the secret service itself has had had serious security failures that led to that assassination attempt on then candidate Trump, now president-elect Trump. But then there was this exchange, not really about that, but about the secret service protective posture for president Biden and then former president Trump on the anniversary of 911, and it got incredibly heated.
Here is that exchange.
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So that's as fiery as it gets in a congressional hearing, Kiara, as you'd, of course, imagine. That is Pat Fallon, congressman of Texas. He had accused the Secret Service director of potentially diverting Secret Service protective resources away from president Biden and then former president Trump, now president-elect Trump, to get himself in the photograph frame, lens on the anniversary of 911. That is, of course, something that the acting secret service director, Ron Ro, vehemently pushed back against as you saw in that exchange, but fiery and certainly not to the subject of the hearing at all.
Alright. Jay O'Brien, Mary Alice Parks, thank you both so much. Well, developing right now, police in New York City are closing in on the identity of a suspected killer that gunned down a prominent CEO. New photos released just a short time ago showing the gunman right here that authorities say shot Brian Thompson. Thompson was staying at a hotel in Manhattan for an investors conference.
Our Morgan Norwood has been on the story since it happened. So, Morgan, police releasing these photos just a short time ago. What do we know about the search?
Hi, Kira. Yeah. Police releasing those photos just minutes ago. They're blasting them out all over the city. There are wanted purse posters everywhere, that you look $10,000 reward being offered.
You can see that suspect there. His face a little bit more clearly this time. Looks like he's, possibly smiling in that photo, and then there's this other photo as well. In addition to the new images, Kira, we're we're also learning that at this hour, authorities are searching a hostel on the Upper West Side here in New York City. That's where they believe the suspect had been staying.
Again, authorities are there as we speak. They also believe that he shared a room with 2 other men. All of this comes as we get new doorbell camera video. It shows the moment that the suspect rides away on the ebike on the upper west side. So, you know, there's a common thread here, the upper west side, and that seems to be where that search zone appears to be contained.
Eyewitnesses also snapping a photo of the suspect as he took off from the shooting. So, again, these sightings, Kira, are really critical to police when it comes to piecing piecing together this timeline, placing him in these different areas, and trying to narrow that search zone, and ultimately find out where he's holed up and where he's hiding at this hour.
So from the sightings, to the writings, police apparently found, some writing on bullet casings near the scene? Yeah. And this could say something about a possible motive here. Investigators finding the words, quote, deny, defend, and depose written on shell casings found
at the scene. We know that there were 3 of them, Kira, which again could indicate some level of dissatisfaction with the UnitedHealthcare or just the insurance agency or in industry as a whole. Police are working with Thompson's family and colleagues to determine if he had received any specific threats leading up to that attack, Kira.
Alright. Morgan Norwood. We'll continue
to follow the search for the suspect. Thank you. So 2 kindergarten students are in critical condition after a shooting at an elementary school in California. Police say the gunman opened fire at the Feather River Adventist in Oroville. 2 students were shot.
The shooter then turned the gun on himself. Our Melissa Dawn is there with more. Melissa.
The FBI now teaming up with local authorities here in Butte County, California. They are sharing some more of a sort of timeline, what they know so far about that suspect. They have ID'd the suspect, but are not yet sharing their identity. Sharing with us, however, that the suspect was dropped off here at the school with a ride share, then walked in to have a meeting with the school's principal. The principal then telling authorities that he did not suspect any red flags, flags, nothing alarming during their meeting.
They discussed possibly enrolling a child here at the school. Well, moments after that, that's when witnesses say that the shooter walked outside into the classroom area and shot at 2 of students shortly after that, turning the gun onto themselves. Well, those 2 students, ages 56, kindergarten boys, they were rushed to the hospital. They are in extremely critical condition, and we're waiting updates, of course, for their recovery.
Alright. Melissa, Dawn, thank you. And a fast moving winter storm is triggering whiteout conditions across the Great Lakes and the Northeast. Millions of people now under snow alerts. Snow piling up on the roads, making for treacherous travel conditions.
Our Trevor Alt is actually in Watertown, New York near the Canadian border. Hey, Trevor. What do you know?
Hey there, Kira. So millions of people
are still under snow and wind alerts. And where we are here in Watertown, we are once again under a winter storm warning. We've got all this snow left behind from the first system that moved through. We could easily see in some areas around here another foot or 2 of snow. And what makes this system especially dangerous is that we're also seeing some strong wind gust up to 50 miles an hour.
We've been watching whiteout conditions sweeping across the plains into the upper Midwest. We sadly have seen a few more deadly incidents out there on the roads. Even today, saw another incident, bet traffic backup at the very least on I 90. This is south of Buffalo. Westbound traffic backed up because of these incidents, and it could continue to get worse through the afternoon into the evening in western New York.
In northern New York where we are could get very dicey. We also wanna remind people that there are risks to this weather beyond just driving. Officials in Buffalo say this week, 2 people died after suffering heart attacks when they were shoveling and snow blowing. It is a good reminder for your older family members. Gotta be cautious.
Take your time even with all this snow coming down. Kira.
Alright. Trevor Alt, thank you. Well, that winter storm has millions of people under threat for life threatening cold. Meteorologist Brittany Bell of our ABC station here in New York or in New York rather is tracking it for us. Brittany, tell us more.
Kira, this round of rain, snow, and gusty winds will continue through tomorrow. Right now, we have most of that snow falling around the Great Lakes and the northeast. Here's a look at all of the winter alerts stretching from Michigan all the way towards New York state. And look at West Virginia, the Appalachians, a blizzard warning. Whiteout conditions could lead to dangerous travel.
Over the next day or so, snowfall totals could range on the lower end between 3 to 6 inches from Pennsylvania all the way towards Maine. And lake effect snow, another round, 6 to 12 inches off of Lake Erie, but for Lake Ontario, 1 to 2 feet near Watertown. Winds will gust as high as 45 to 55 miles per hour. That could lead to small tree damage, even, some power outages, and it could be an issue for some of those Christmas decorations, so make sure those are secure. When it comes to the chill, this deep freeze is on the way.
We could have real field temperatures early tomorrow morning dropping below 0 in some areas, 5 below in Asheville. It could feel like 12 degrees in New York City tomorrow morning. And look at Tallahassee, 28 degrees. There's even a cold weather advisory for the Gulf Coast. Looking ahead to this weekend and next week, warmer weather is on the way with temperatures climbing into the fifties Monday in New York City, near 60 in Atlanta on Sunday, and Memphis, a high of 55 on Sunday.
Back to you.
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Glad you're streaming with us. Excessive force and racist routines. That's how the justice department says Memphis police officers carried out their beat discriminating against black people. The investigation began after the beating death of Tire Nichols at the hands of 5 police officers. Our justice reporter, Jack Dote, joins us now with more.
So let's talk about the press conference that was held today. What did we learn?
Well, we learned the findings of their investigation, which began, after, as you mentioned, the death of Tire Nichols some 17 months ago, and the findings were in a word, troubling. They found that the department, Memphis Police Department routinely uses excessive force, that they make unlawful stops, searches, and arrests, that they discriminated against the black population in Memphis, and they actively discriminated as well against people with mental health disabilities. And they also found that they they use force against children, some as young as 8. They they found 1 case where a child was handcuffed and and, was physically restrained and actually pushed by police. So they they found this, rather quickly too.
This investigation moved rapidly and, you know, they cited training and supervision as being really lacking in the department. And this is a department that some that that that pioneered a lot of things like, crisis intervention training and things that are supposed to be, ways of handling people with, mental health issues in a crisis, but they found repeatedly that this department failed. Assistant attorney general, Kristen Clark, said that they need to reform now.
The police department must stop policies that have a disproportionate effect on black people in this community. We uncovered racial disparities that cannot be explained by differences in driving behavior.
So, at at this point, typically, in these cases, there's a consent decree, or an agreement between the police department and the justice department that is overseen by a federal judge that basically makes sure that they follow through on some of these reforms. However, in this case, the city of Memphis has declined to participate in any sort of consent decree with the Department of Justice, perhaps sensing that, there might be a change in the Trump justice department. In Trump's first term, then attorney general Jeff Sessions, ended the practice of consent decrees. And, under that justice department, they only issued 1 consent decree, to a part department in Massachusetts. And so, they say they will try to do the reforms on their own, without further federal intervention.
Got it, Jack. Appreciate it. We'll follow it. Thanks so much. Well, growing concerns with our schools and students struggling with mass score math scores.
Now educators are speaking out. Andrea Fuji is taking a closer look at what may behind this recent decline.
New evidence that American children are falling behind in math. In some cases, way behind.
The results are sobering.
Scores from the test called trends in international mathematics and science study found from between 2019 and 2023, American 4th graders dropped 18 points in math. 8th graders dropped 27 points.
We started this assessment in 1995, so we have essentially we have erased, the gains that, we were seeing for for decades.
Globally, the US scoring only mid pack, easily surpassed by countries in Asia and Europe. Experts point to many reasons, including COVID when education was disrupted in the US for longer than many other countries.
This decline that we're we're seeing was was there in 2015. So
all of
this cannot be blamed on COVID. We have, been struggling with this declining scores, particularly in math, for a while.
Experts say too many kids are missing class. About 17% are described as often absent.
We need to focus on the students that have been, struggling for a while now, and that is where I I I wanna leave it for, as a country to sort of ponder.
And our thanks to Andrea Fujii for that. Well, coming up, what's brewing? Big changes are coming to Starbucks. We'll hear from the coffee giant's new CEO next.
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Hi there, Kira. Good to see you. Wanna start with the stock market because taking a little bit of a breather here today, 1 day after the Dow closed above 40 5,000 for the first time ever, so you see there a live picture of the big board shows us the Dow now down a 150 points. Taking a look at Bitcoin, it continues its record rally moving further into record territory after blasting through the 1 $100,000 mark for the first time ever. For reference here, Bitcoin was trading at $17,000 just 2 years ago.
President-elect Trump living up to his self appointed title of crypto president, nominating Paul Adkins, a big crypto supporter to head the Securities and Exchange Commission. Bitcoin also got a lift yesterday after Fed chief Jerome Powell compared the digital asset to investing in gold. And an early Christmas present for drivers, gas is now below $3 a gallon in more than half the country. That's the lowest we've seen in about 3 years. Experts say lower demand and high supply are helping to keep prices in check.
And you'll have to dig a little deeper into your pocket the next time you go to Chipotle. The restaurant chain's raising prices by 2% at its stores nationwide. Chipotle says the price hike is needed to offset higher costs for ingredients like avocados, queso, and sour cream. And I guess you could just call it a sign of the times. AT and T says it plans to shut down its copper wire landline network by 2029.
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Alright. Alexis, thank you so much. Alright. Well, mounting complaints brewing at Starbucks, but the new CEO says he's ordering up better wait times and prices. Brian Niccol is known for turning things around at Chipotle, and he's hoping to do the same thing for the coffee giant.
Our Rebecca Jarvis sat down with him to find out what he plans to change.
We've got this whole mission around getting back to Starbucks.
Brian Niccol is the new CEO working to return Starbucks to its former glory and reinvigorate the iconic 53 year old brand following a year of slumping sales and customer complaints like these on social media about everything from the cost of a drink Starbucks and their pricing, baffling, mind blowing, ridonculous. To wait times. Nickel took over in September, turning over every detail and quickly addressing a big customer pet peeve, up charges for alternative milks like almond and oat. What are the other major changes customers can expect?
You'll see us do simple things, bringing back the Sharpies, bringing back the coffee condiment bar. You'll see us continue to push towards how do we make it easier for you to get your coffee and then also simplify the execution for our baristas.
But it's not just bringing back the basics. The former Chipotle CEO says he's working to improve in store ordering with a goal of getting your espresso drink made in less than 4 minutes. He's also working on the app and mobile ordering. The thing I hear a lot is that customers love the options of Starbucks. They like being able to order through the app or come in, but it takes a while.
How do you make that go faster?
So we're we're right now investing in how do we build the technology so that when a mobile order comes in, we basically give you a time that your drink will be ready. So today, you know, we just kinda give you an estimate. Hey. It'll be ready in 3 to 5 minutes. In the future, what'll happen is we'll be like, Rebecca, your drink will be ready at 9 instead of it just being made sitting on the counter waiting for people to come.
And eyeing a smaller menu, eliminating less popular items to get you your coffee faster. What kinds of things are gonna have to go?
We've got a lot of offerings that there's just 1 or 2 of these ordered a day. So the the way I talk about it is we're gonna do fewer things, but we're gonna do fewer things better.
And he says, for now, these changes won't come at a higher cost. You have Chipotle, your former, company, hiking prices 2% higher. Is Starbucks going to hike prices, or is inflation, as far as Starbucks is concerned, done?
We're gonna hit the pause button on any pricing, for this fiscal year. I still think there's an opportunity for us to simplify the pricing architecture. I don't love the fact that in our app right now, while you're doing this customization, it doesn't inform you what has happened to the price. So I wanna get more transparent with the pricing.
And he promises none of the innovation will come with a decline in quality. 5 years from now, if I walk into a Starbucks Yeah. How different is it going to look from today?
I think what you're gonna see is a very orderly mobile order business with its own dedicated pickup area. When you walk in and you interact with the barista, my hope is we can get you a brewed cup of coffee in less than 30 seconds.
And our thanks to Rebecca Jarvis for that. Let's see if the changes go through. I'm Kiara Phillips. News never stops and neither do we. You can find ABC News Live anywhere you stream live news on the ABC News app and or on ABC News dot com.
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They know business, and now the president-elect wants them to help streamline our government. So Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are expected on Capitol Hill today to tell us exactly how they plan to do that. Trump has charged the 2 successful entrepreneurs with leading a department of government efficiency. Then there's the embattled defense secretary nominee Pete Hegseth. He's back on the hill doubling down amid concerns about his alleged misconduct and drinking, something he vows to give up if he becomes the secretary of defense.
What did president-elect Trump tell you, mister Hegseth?
He's behind us all the way. Spoke to him this morning.
RJ O'Brien joins us now from Capitol Hill along with our White House correspondent, Mary Alice Parks. Mary Alice, a source close to president Biden, says he's talking about possible preemptive pardons for people who might be targeted by the incoming Trump administration. Who's on the list?
Yeah, Kira. Another major headline this morning. This would be an extraordinary step from the Biden White House. Look, it would be in response, though, Democrats say, to extraordinary threats that president-elect Trump has made about potentially using the power of the FBI or the Department of Justice to go after political opponents. And so what we know now is that Biden White House senior aids are really considering the idea of preemptive pardons for people like general Mark Milley, the former chair of the joint chiefs of staff who Republicans have blasted for his role during the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
People like Adam Schiff and Liz Cheney who sat there on the January 6th select committee. We know that president-elect Trump, while he was campaigning, said explicitly in social media posts and on the campaign trail, he thought people on that committee should go to jail. So the question now, would the White House or the current White House be willing to grant sweeping preemptive pardons even to people who are not actually accused right now of any real crimes, but who the White House is worried could be facing retaliation from an incoming Trump administration, Kira.
Alright. Let's go now to Musk and Ravaswami. They'll be up on the hill talking about this new department, that Trump wants them to lead. Musk saying, I think we should make sure we spend the public's money well. Sounds good.
How are they gonna do it?
Yeah. This is a really big question, and it's something that, of course, they are getting a lot of, sort of pressure from to give real answers, especially because, essentially, they're setting up a new government agency or a sort of a quasi agency to work on cutting government spending. So a lot of questions there. Big questions about what they would do in terms of government contracts and government subsidies because Elon Musk, of course, and his companies right now enjoy 1,000,000,000 of dollars in government contracts. So he needs to make sure that he's not, sort of pursuing cuts to federal spending that look, hypocritical to sort of government contract work that his companies enjoy.
And, of course, here in Washington and around the country, though, Kira, a lot of questions about what the 2 would propose in terms of the federal workforce. Both have made big sweeping threats about wanting to downsize the federal workforce, but what could that mean in terms of, civilian employees who have union protections, many of whom, tens of thousands of whom, work all around the country outside of DC and who are worried about whether their jobs could be on the line.
Alright, Jay. Let's talk about Hegseth now. He says Trump has his back, but sources say there are still some concerns on his behalf and also other Republican senators, that still need to be convinced. What do you know?
Yeah. He said that to me just moments ago, Kira, as he was meeting with senator Mike Rounds in Rounds' office. I asked Hegseth what Trump told him earlier today because he said he and president-elect Trump spoke at the beginning of the day, and he said that Trump, as you played in that sound, is behind him. But there are Republican senators at this hour who are deeply concerned about Hegseth's nomination. They are concerned about accusations of sexual assault and sexual misconduct, which hedge which Hegseth denies.
They're concerned about allegations of mismanagement of veterans charities, of drinking issues. Hegseth has said he doesn't have a drinking problem and won't drink if he becomes the secretary of defense. Hegseth met yesterday with senator Joni Ernst, considered although she hasn't really said publicly 1 way or the other, but considered to be 1 of the key votes that Hegseth really needs to work on here. Here is what senator Ernst told Fox News earlier today about if she's behind president-elect Trump's pick to lead the Department of Defense.
Okay. It doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten to a yes. If I'm wrong about that, correct me. And if that is the case, it sounds to me as if the hearing will be critical, for his nomination. Am I right about that?
I think I think you are right.
And Ernst told our Kelsey Walsh and other reporters just moments ago as she stepped out of the gaggle of the Doge caucus where she was meeting with Vivek Ramaswami about what you were just talking with Mary Alice about, that she had a, quote, frank and thorough conversation with Pete Hegseth, but doesn't go beyond that to say that the conversation was positive or ended with her as a yes vote. So, clearly, Pete Hegseth, if he wants to shore up support amongst Republican senators, still has a distance to go, Kira.
Yeah. He sure does. Well, Jay, the secret service director, is being grilled by a house panel investigating, the July assassination attempt on president-elect Trump. And, apparently, the back and forth got pretty, intense. What do we know?
Yeah. Fiery exchange. This was a hearing that the Secret Service plan to come forward and say that they had made substantive changes to their protocol to prevent what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania from ever happening again. Something that lawmakers and the secret service itself has said had serious security failures that led to that assassination attempt on then candidate Trump, now president-elect Trump. But then there was this exchange, not really about that, but about the secret service protective posture for president Biden and then former president Trump on the anniversary of 911, and it got incredibly heated.
Here is that exchange.
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Criticize it. So that's as fiery as it gets in a congressional hearing, Kiara, as you'd, of course, imagine. That is Pat Fallon, congressman of Texas. He had accused the Secret Service director of potentially diverting Secret Service protective resources away from president Biden and then former president Trump, now president-elect Trump, to get himself in the photograph frame, lens on the anniversary of 911. That is, of course, something that the acting secret service director, Ron Ro, vehemently pushed back against as you saw in that exchange, but fiery and certainly not to the subject of the hearing at all.
Alright. Jay O'Brien, Mary Alice Parks, thank you both so much. Well, developing right now, police in New York City are closing in on the identity of a suspected killer that gunned down a prominent CEO. New photos released just a short time ago showing the gunman right here that authorities say shot Brian Thompson. Thompson was staying at a hotel in Manhattan for an investors conference.
Our Morgan Norwood has been on the story since it happened. So, Morgan, police releasing these photos just a short time ago. What do we know about the search?
Hi, Kira. Yeah. Police releasing those photos just minutes ago. They're blasting them out all over the city. There are wanted purse posters everywhere, that you look $10,000 reward being offered.
You can see that suspect there. His face a little bit more clearly this time. Looks like he's, possibly smiling in that photo, and then there's this other photo as well. In addition to the new images, Kira, we're we're also learning that at this hour, authorities are searching a hostel on the Upper West Side here in New York City. That's where they believe the suspect had been staying.
Again, authorities are there as we speak. They also believe that he shared a room with 2 other men. All of this comes as we get new doorbell camera video. It shows the moment that the suspect rides away on the ebike on the upper west side. So, you know, there's a common thread here, the upper west side, and that seems to be where that search zone, appears to be contained.
Eyewitnesses also snapping a photo of the suspect as he took off from the shooting. So, again, these sightings, Kira, are really critical to police when it comes to piecing piecing together this timeline, placing him in these different areas, and trying to narrow that search zone, and ultimately find out where he's holed up and where he's hiding at this hour.
So from the sightings, to the writings, police apparently found, some writing on bullet casings near the scene?
Yeah. And this could say something about a possible motive here. Investigators finding the words, quote, deny, defend, and depose written on shell casings found at the scene. We know that there were 3 of them, Kira, which again could indicate some level of dissatisfaction with the UnitedHealthcare or just the insurance agency or in industry as a whole. Police are working with Thompson's family and colleagues to determine if he had received any specific threats leading up to that attack, Kira.
Alright. Morgan Norwood. We'll continue to follow the search
for the suspect. Thank you. So 2 kindergarten students are in critical condition after a shooting at an elementary school in California. Police say the gunman opened fire at the Feather River Adventist in Oroville. 2 students were shot.
The shooter then turned the gun on himself. Our Melissa Dawn is there with more. Melissa.
The FBI now teaming up with local authorities here in Butte County, California. They are sharing some more of a sort of timeline, what they know so far about that suspect. They have ID'd the suspect, but are not yet sharing their identity. Sharing with us, however, that the suspect was dropped off here at the school with a ride share, then walked in to have a meeting with the school's principal. The principal then telling authorities that he did not suspect any red flags, nothing alarming during their meeting.
They discussed possibly enrolling a child here at the school. Well, moments after that, that's when witnesses say that the shooter walked outside into the classroom area and shot at 2 students shortly after that, turning the gun onto themselves. Well, those 2 students, ages 56, kindergarten boys, they were rushed to the hospital. They are in extremely critical condition, and we're waiting updates, of course, for their recovery.
Alright. Melissa, Dawn, thank you. And a fast moving winter storm is triggering whiteout conditions across the great lakes and the northeast. Millions of people now under snow alerts. Snow piling up on the roads, making for treacherous travel conditions.
Our Trevor Alt is actually in Watertown, New York near the Canadian border. Hey, Trevor. What do you know?
Hey there, Kira. So millions of people are still under snow and wind alerts. And where we are here in Watertown, we are once again under a winter storm warning. We've got all this snow left behind from the first system that moved through. We could easily see in some areas around here another foot or 2 of snow.
And what makes this system especially dangerous is that we're also seeing some strong wind gust up to 50 miles an hour. We've been watching whiteout conditions sweeping across the plains into the upper Midwest. We sadly have seen a few more deadly incidents out there on the roads. Even today, saw another incident, bet traffic backup at the very least on I 90. This is south of Buffalo.
Westbound traffic backed up because of these incidents, and it could continue to get worse through the afternoon into the evening in western New York. In northern New York where we are could get very dicey. We also wanna remind people that there are risks to this weather beyond just driving. Officials in Buffalo say this week, 2 people died after suffering heart attacks when they were shoveling and snow blowing. It is a good reminder for your older family members.
Gotta be cautious. Take your time even with all this snow coming down. Kira.
Alright. Trevor Alt, thank you. Well, that winter storm has millions of people under threat for life threatening cold. Meteorologist Brittany Bell of our ABC station here in New York or in New York rather is tracking it for us. Brittany, tell us more.
Kira, this round of rain, snow, and gusty winds will continue through tomorrow. Right now, we have most of that snow falling around the Great Lakes and the northeast. Here's a look at all of the winter alerts stretching from Michigan all the way towards New York state. And look at West Virginia, the Appalachians, a blizzard warning. Whiteout conditions could lead to dangerous travel.
Over the next day or so, snowfall totals could range on the lower end between 3 to 6 inches from Pennsylvania all the way towards Maine. And lake effect snow, another round, 6 to 12 inches off of Lake Erie, but for Lake Ontario, 1 to 2 feet near Watertown. Winds of gust as high as 45 to 55 miles per hour. That could lead to small tree damage, even, some power outages, and it could be an issue for some of those Christmas decorations, so make sure those are secure. When it comes to the chill, this deep freeze is on the way.
We could have real field temperatures early tomorrow morning dropping below 0 in some areas. 5 below in Asheville. It could feel like 12 degrees in New York City tomorrow morning. And look at Tallahassee, 28 degrees. There's even a cold weather advisory for the Gulf Coast.
Looking ahead to this weekend and next week, warmer weather is on the way with temperatures climbing into the fifties Monday in New York City, near 60 in Atlanta on Sunday, and Memphis, a high of 55 on Sunday. Back to you.
Alright. Britney, thanks so much. Coming up, the DOJ deep dive into a racist police department. Justice, retiree Nichols, next.
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Glad you're streaming with us. Excessive force and racist routines. That's how the justice department Memphis police officers carried out their beat, discriminating against black people. The investigation began after the beating death of Tire Nichols at the hands of 5 police officers. Our justice reporter, Jack Dote, joins us now with more.
So let's talk about the press conference that was held today. What did we learn?
Well, we learned the findings of their investigation, which began after, as you mentioned, the death of Tyree Nichols some 17 months ago, and the findings were in a word, troubling. They found that the department, Memphis Police Department routinely uses excessive force, that they make unlawful stops, searches, and arrests, that they discriminated against the black population in Memphis, and they actively discriminated as well against people with mental health disabilities. And they also found that they they use force against children, some as young as 8. They they found 1 case where a child was handcuffed and and, was physically restrained and actually pushed by police. So they they found this, rather quickly too.
This investigation moved rapidly, and, you know, they cited training and supervision as being really lacking in the department. And this is a department that some that that that pioneered a lot of things like, crisis intervention training and things that are supposed to be, ways of handling people with, mental health issues in a crisis, but they found repeatedly that this department failed. Assistant attorney general Kristen Clark said that they need to reform now.
The police department must stop policies that have a disproportionate effect on black people in this community. We uncovered racial disparities that cannot be explained by differences in driving behavior.
So, at at this point, typically in these cases, there's a consent decree, or an agreement between the police department and the justice department that is overseen by a federal judge that basically makes sure that they follow through on some of these reforms. However, in this case, the city of Memphis has declined to participate in any sort of consent decree with the Department of Justice, perhaps sensing that, there might be a change in the Trump justice department. In Trump's first term, then attorney general Jeff Sessions, ended the practice of consent decrees. And, under that justice department, they only issued 1 consent decree, to a part department in Massachusetts. And so, they say they will try to do the reforms on their own, without further federal intervention.
Got it, Jack. Appreciate it. We'll follow it. Thanks so much. Well, growing concerns with our schools and students struggling with mass score math scores.
Now educators are speaking out. Andrea Fuji is taking a closer look at what may behind this recent decline.
New evidence that American children are falling behind in math. In some cases, way behind.
The results are sobering.
Scores from the test called trends in international mathematics and science study found from between 2019 and 2023, American 4th graders dropped 18 points in math. 8th graders dropped 27 points.
We started this assessment in 1995, so we have essentially we have erased, the gains that, we were seeing for for decades.
Globally, the US scoring only mid pack, easily surpassed by countries in Asia and Europe. Experts point to many reasons, including COVID when education was disrupted in the US for longer than many other countries.
This decline that we're we're seeing was was there in 2015. So
all of
this cannot be blamed on COVID. We have, been struggling with this declining scores, particularly in math, for a while.
Experts say too many kids are missing class. About 17% are described as often absent.
We need to focus on the students that have been, struggling for a while now, and that is where I I I wanna leave it for, as a country to sort of ponder.
And our thanks to Andrea Fuji for that. Well, coming up, what's brewing? Big changes are coming to Starbucks. We'll hear from the coffee giant's new CEO next.
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Hi there, Kira. Good to see you. Wanna start with the stock market because taking a little bit of a breather here today, 1 day after the Dow closed above 40 5,000 for the first time ever, so you see there a live picture of the big board shows us the Dow now down a 150 points. Taking a look at Bitcoin, it continues its record rally moving further into record territory after blasting through the 100 $1,000 mark for the first time ever. For reference here, Bitcoin was trading at $17,000 just 2 years ago.
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Alright. Alexis, thank you so much. Alright. Well, mounting complaints brewing at Starbucks, but the new CEO says he's ordering up better wait times and prices. Brian Niccol is known for turning things around at Chipotle, and he's hoping to do the same thing for the coffee giant.
Our Rebecca Jarvis sat down with him to find out what he plans to change.
We've got this whole mission around getting back to Starbucks.
Brian Niccol is the new CEO working to return Starbucks to its former glory and reinvigorate the iconic 53 year old brand following a year of slumping sales and customer complaints like these on social media about everything from the cost of a drink Starbucks and their pricing, baffling, mind blowing, ridonkulous. To wait times. Nickel took over in September, turning over every detail and quickly addressing a big customer pet peeve, upcharges for alternative milks like almond and oat. What are the other major changes customers can expect?
You'll see us do simple things, bringing back the Sharpies, bringing back the coffee condiment bar. You'll see us continue to push towards how do we make it easier for you to get your coffee and then also simplify the execution for our baristas.
But it's not just bringing back the basics. The former Chipotle CEO says he's working to improve in store ordering with a goal of getting your espresso drink made in less than 4 minutes. He's also working on the app and mobile ordering. The thing I hear a lot is that customers love the options of Starbucks. They like being able to order through the app or come in, but it takes a while.
How do you make that go faster?
So we're we're right now investing in how do we build the technology so that when a mobile order comes in, we basically give you a time that your drink will be ready. So today, you know, we just kinda give you an estimate. Hey. It'll be ready in 3 to 5 minutes. In the future, what'll happen is we'll be like, Rebecca, your drink will be ready at 9 instead of it just being made sitting on the counter waiting for people to come.
And eyeing a smaller menu, eliminating less popular items to get you your coffee faster. What kinds of things are gonna have to go?
We've got a lot of offerings that there's just 1 or 2 of these ordered a day. So the the way I talk about it is we're gonna do fewer things, but we're gonna do fewer things better.
And he says, for now, these changes won't come at a higher cost. You have Chipotle, your former, company, hiking prices 2% higher. Is Starbucks going to hike prices, or is inflation, as far as Starbucks is concerned, done?
We're gonna hit the pause button on any pricing, for this fiscal year. I still think there's an opportunity for us to simplify the pricing architecture. I don't love the fact that in our app right now, while you're doing this customization, it doesn't inform you what has happened to the price. So I wanna get more transparent with the pricing.
And he promises none of the innovation will come with a decline in quality. 5 years from now, if I walk into a Starbucks Yeah. How different is it going to look from today?
I think what you're gonna see is a very orderly mobile order business with its own dedicated pickup area. When you walk in and you interact with the barista, my hope is we can get you a brewed cup of coffee in less than 30 seconds.
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Right now on ABC News live, manhunt through Manhattan, the massive search for the brazen gunman who assassinated United Health Care CEO. New photos of the suspect as the NYPD says it's closing in. He says he'll stop drinking if he becomes the secretary of defense. Pete Hegseth says he won't be pushed out of the running. What we know about Trump's other options this hour.
And violating constitutional rights, the DOJ's deep dive on a racist Memphis police department, justice for Tire Nichols this hour. Deny, defend, depose, writings found on the bullet casing speak to a possible motive. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Kira Phillips. The NYPD says it's closing in on identifying the killer who gunned down a powerful CEO in broad daylight on the streets of New York City.
Investigators releasing these new images showing the face of a man wanted for questioning in connection with that murder. They're asking for your help now in identifying him. Police say UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when the shooter approached him from behind and fired several rounds into his back at point blank range. And now clues left behind at the scene suggest he may have had serious grievances with the health care insurance industry. Joining me now are Morgan Norwood and former NYPD chief of detectives, Bob Boyce.
Alright. Morgan, what's the latest on the search right now?
Hi, Kira. Good to be with you. Yes. Police have just released new images of the suspect. And in these new images, we see the suspect's face very clearly.
They're now blasting these images out to the public. You see them around unwanted, posters. You can see that image right there. We also have another 1 that we wanna show you as well where you can see his face very clearly. We also are learning that authorities are searching a hostel on the upper west side in New York City where they think the suspect had been staying.
Authorities again are there as we speak. There's a photo I was just speaking about. They believe that he shared a room with 2 other men. Now all of this comes as we got new doorbell video, from a doorbell camera on the upper west side showing that suspect riding an ebike. You know, someone else also snapping a photo of the suspect as he took off from the shooting.
So these sightings are really critical, to police when it comes to piecing together a timeline, placing him in different areas, just trying to narrow down that search zone, what appears to be right now, the upper west side of Manhattan and ultimately finding out where he's holed up. But overall, investigators, finding a treasure trove of evidence, including the words deny, defend, and depose written on shell casings at the scene, which could indicate some sort of dissatisfaction with, you know, the insurance agency or just the insurance industry as a whole. Police obviously working to uncover a motive at this hour, Kira.
Well, Bob, let's talk about a possible motive here. Those bullet casings with the words deny, defend, and depose, that was what was written written on them. So let's talk about what those words mean in the insurance biz and and what they could reveal about a motive here.
Sure. So let's first off, I'm saying the number 1, primary thing right now is identify him and then apprehend him. And the motive comes a little bit after that, so there's 2 pursuits here. It's important to understand that this is an insurance company vernacular and he's looking to send a message. I will tell you, Gohak, you're doing this a long time investigations.
I haven't seen anybody write anything on a, shell casings that we picked up, to give us a clue. And it really makes you think exactly what's in his head. He's doing this in the holiday season in the middle of Manhattan's busiest busiest area on sixth Avenue. Is he now he's sending a message, is he is and he's picking the biggest police department in the country. Does he wanna be identified?
Does he wanna make this bigger statement? And you have to consider that when you go to motive here, and it's it's unusual. And so the the primary thing I can say is get him in custody now, and we'll not learn more about it. But this motive this motive right here is pretty clear cut at this point.
So then, Bob, police have also recovered a cell phone, a candy wrapper, several other pieces of evidence they believe are linked to the suspect. So DNA, right, could lead them, to this suspect much quicker than expected?
It could, but you have to go forensics has to be developed, and it takes a little while, especially a DNA profile. And we don't know if it's if if this individual's any database has to be compared to yet. That'll come later again when we apprehend them. I think we're gonna map random today sometime. The Navy gave it to hostile.
They don't believe it's his, but they're running it down anyway. So that picture is going out to the public. All aid in the investigation as well. It's pretty pretty clear looking at this individual to get him in custody. When he used it to hostel, we don't know.
He got out of there before we got there, but now we're gonna figure out where he goes from there. And that's that's important. Again, the the motivation is is is really secondary at this point. Get him in custody, and all of a sudden, this thing will all open up at this point. By the way, the shooting, they were they think they know what the weapon is.
At this point, the mayor said it today at b and d stations b and t station 6 handgun. It's a replica from World War 2. It's unusual. There's not a lot of them out there, and it's costly as well. So and you knew how to use it.
So these things all come to frame now exactly when you do a deep dive on that. Who owns those guns? And you go knocking on doors to see if it's related to this case.
Alright. We'll keep tracking it. As you say, you believe that they are close to finding this guy. We'll report it as soon as we know. Morgan, Bob, thank you both so much.
So he says if he becomes secretary of defense, he'll stop drinking. Promises from president elect Donald Trump's embattled pick to run the Pentagon, Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere either.
Here in this all the way.
Why would I back down? I'm always in a fight.
Hegseth is back on Capitol Hill today meeting with lawmakers to reassure them that he's the right man for the job even going as far to say he is done drinking.
He offered up to me, and I know he has with other senators too that he's not drinking, and that's not something he's gonna do, when confirmed here.
But it may be too late for him. The president-elect has no plans to work the phones to save Hegseth's nomination, but his mom sure is. Apparently, Penelope Hegseth has been picking up the phone herself and dialing up senders on her son's behalf saying he's a changed man. Senior reporter Kathryn Faulders in West Palm Beach, Florida, and Jay O'Brien is up there on Capitol Hill. So, Kathryn, Trump made calls on behalf of Matt Gaetz, so why not make them for Hegseth?
Yeah. It's a great question. And and, frankly, I think inside the Trump, transition team, the the vibe is that this is his to lose here. He's up there defending himself. He's meeting, with members, of the the he's meeting with senators up there.
He's trying to convince them that he is a changed man, that he's not gonna drink if he is to be the next, secretary of defense, for example. But, of course, it's all these allegations about, mistreatment, of women that has, many of these senators extremely concerned. I know that we have found, all of the women senators on Capitol Hill to see what they would say. And, frankly, I I believe only 1 has said, that she would support his nomination. So he can't lose all those votes because his confirmation obviously wouldn't go through.
So, yes, it was different with Matt Gaetz. Trump was working the phones. He was trying to save Gaetz, but it became very clear to Trump himself that Gaetz was just not gonna have the votes. Now the Trump transition team is focused on where those women Republican senators stand, that they're trying to get a gage on that privately behind the scenes, because they do know that if they lose, many of those women, this nomination won't go through. I don't think they have a good sense of that now, but that's at least the focus.
And Trump is is not working the phones on behalf of Hegseth, at least, to the best of our knowledge. Essentially, his understanding and and his vibe on it is that it's Hegseth's nomination to lose, that he has to defend himself on this.
So, Jay, all eyes remaining on senator Joni Ernst today. She still won't say if she'll support Hegseth or not. Okay.
It doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten to a yes. If I'm wrong about that, correct me. And if that is the case, it sounds to me as if the hearing will be critical, for his nomination. Am I right about that?
I think I think you are right. I think for a number of our senators, they wanna make sure that any allegations have been cleared, and that's why we have to have a very thorough vetting process.
As we know, she met with Hegzis yesterday, said it was a thorough conversation as well. Seems like it still wasn't enough for her, though.
Jay.
Yeah. That is exactly right, Kira. And 1 of the things we've heard from Joni Ernst, for instance, is that she said she had a, quote, frank and thorough conversation with Pete Hegseth, but she wouldn't address if he put any of her concerns to rest. I asked her that question yesterday. A number of other reporters have asked her that question.
You played that exchange she just had on Fox News. And the thing with Joni Ernst is she's considered to be potentially this kind of bellwether because as Catherine noted, the Trump team is aware that they have issues with several moderate Republican senators and several female Republican senators too. And it's unclear if Pete Hegseth is doing all he can to assuage some of their concerns. Although Pete Hegseth will tell you he feels confident that he has the support of president-elect Trump over the course of this process, regardless of how tumultuous it may be. I asked him that question earlier as he met with senator Mike Rounds, a top Republican.
I asked him, did he speak with president-elect Trump earlier? He said that he did, and he said that the president-elect told them that he had told him rather that he has his full support. Again, a potential rocky confirmation process, but clear from the Republicans, including Ernst, who said on Fox News that they want Hegseth to go through this process. They want him to have a confirmation hearing before the Armed Services Committee, and they want him to publicly, under oath, address some of these allegations, Kira.
Well, Kathryn Ernst isn't just a vote here. She's also a potential runner-up for this gig.
Yeah. She is a potential runner-up for this gig, and and she's obviously telegraphed that she would, want this job should Hegseth, drop out. She's telegraphed that back to Donald Trump here. She's been spotted a lot, at Mar a Lago, meeting with the president-elect. So it's not just Arnstadt's in the running for this.
We know that Trump has reached out specifically to other people about, whether they would be interested in this job, including, right there on your screen, governor, Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, who Trump was with earlier this week. We're told by sources that Trump asked him if he would be interested in it, and DeSantis said, that he would be. So it depends, but part of the reason why Trump isn't picking up the phones is because he's having active conversations about who would replace Hegseth if this nomination goes south.
And, Jay, before we let you guys go, the bros, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswami on the hill as well, pitching their new department of government efficiency. This ought to be interesting when we hear from them. Apparently, they're supposed to hold a live event.
Yeah. They're gonna meet with Republicans and Democrats behind closed or should be not Democrats. They're gonna meet with Republicans from the house and senate, Kira, behind closed doors, actually right here behind me, and then they're gonna address the media. It's unclear as to exactly what this new department of government efficiency says that it wants to do. Elon Musk, Vikram Maswami have, put out broad promises as to what they think the agency should do, like cut, you know, 1 to 2 trillion $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal budget, maybe eliminate some government positions, which would be difficult because of the unions that various government employees belong to.
They've even talked about taking serious aim at federal remote work policies. They've cited data that shows a small percentage of federal government employees go to work 5 days a week at the office at their assigned location. That's government data that the government itself has pushed back against in some form or fashion, but expect them to bring up those issues and others when they meet with Republican lawmakers. And expect us to get a clear sense, by the way, as to what comes out of that meeting as to exactly what this new quasi government agency is really gonna try to do, Kira.
Alright. Stay tuned. We'll be waiting for those remarks. Catherine Jay, thanks, guys. Well, from the transition to testifying on the hill, it's acting secret acting secret service director Ronald Roe that's also making news this hour.
He just testified to the house panel investigating assassination attempts on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, but the hearing got pretty hairy after Republican Texas congressman Pat Fallon questioned Roe's behavior at this year's 911 remembrance ceremony. Take a listen.
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Well, it took a while, to get, order there. Justice and Homeland Security reporter Luke Bard joining me now. So why did this hearing on the assassination attempt assassination attempts, take this turn into a screaming match over this, you know, 9 11 ceremony?
Well, Kira, it was 1 of the most electric, and intense moments, of a hearing I've, ever seen. And what had happened was rep Pat Fallon, put up a picture of the acting secret service director Ron Rowe, at the 9:11 Memorial Ceremony sitting behind, president Biden. And rep Fallon said that, you know, that is typically where the head of the secret service detail is sitting. Obviously, Rowe took offense to that line of questioning, and said no. You know, the secret service, special agent in charge of the president's detail was sitting right next to them.
And then that back and forth, that yelling, that screaming match happened. And Roe, you know, took offense because he said he, responded to 911. And also, Kira, Roe, was a presidential protective detail agent himself. You know, so he he, you know, he knows what to do in the event something would happen. And, Kira, this hearing was really kind of a a mundane congressional hearing.
I mean, it was really focused on trying to reform the agency after the assassination attempt of of of president-elect Trump. So, you know, this moment is the 1 that really stands out as kind of a a unique and and and, you know, not really, related moment to the actual substance of the hearing, Kira.
Alright. Luke Barr, thanks so much. Excessive force and discriminating against black people, that's how a justice department report describes the behavior of Memphis police officers. This deep dive also uncovering the department's handling of children and individuals with mental disabilities. DOJ officials holding a press conference earlier today.
1 crisis team member acquired the nickname Taserface for his inordinate use of the tool. These team members routinely escalated encounters and used unnecessary force against people with behavioral disabilities, even children.
The investigation stemming from the beating death of Tire Nichols at the hands of 5 police officers back in 2023. Our senior producer, Jack Dante, joining us now. Let's talk about this report. And does it talk about changes in reforms that the police department has already put in place since this first came out?
Well, it
does, Carrie. This report had some very troubling findings. They found that there's reasonable cause to believe that, the Memphis Police Department and the city engaged in a pattern or practice that violated people's constitutional rights and federal law. Among their findings, police use excessive force routinely. They made unlawful stops, searches, and arrests.
They discriminated routinely against black people. They discriminated against people with behavioral disabilities. They even, even children weren't spared the use of force. 18 year old was handcuffed and pushed down by a police officer who is trained in crisis intervention training. These are the agents that are supposed to be most sensitive, to people who are in mental crisis, and even them, even with those agents that are or officers, they found, troubling findings with repeated use of excessive force.
So among, the the recommendations were that they need additional supervision, additional training, and a lot more control over how their officers are deployed and trained, and their understanding of constitutional rights appears to be very lacking.
So the police department and the city of Memphis cooperated cooperated fully with the investigation, but the city is not agreeing to a court appointed monitor to oversee reforms and mediate the problems. So what's the deal?
So, typically, these types of investigations by the Department of Justice end with what's called a consent decree where the department agrees with the justice department to engage in, a reform process that's overseen by a federal judge. However, what we're probably gonna see going into the Trump administration is less use of this type of tool to seek out reform. In the 1st Trump administration, Trump's first attorney general, Jeff Sessions, basically outlawed the practice or not outlawed or at least he stopped using it. He discontinued the practice of consent decrees against police departments. And so, really, that process is pretty onerous and requires a lot of, funding and a lot of effort, and a lot of oversight, which some of the local officials believe could slow down reforms.
But, basically, they generally agree with, the recommendations and say that they will take steps, to find ways to reform their department.
Alright. Jack Dote will follow it. Thank you. And the country of Georgia cracking down on a growing protest movement now with at least 300 people detained this hour. Protesters calling for an end to the government there after its suspended negotiations to join the European Union.
They say the party is turning Georgia back toward Russia in a tyrannical government. Now police have raided opposition party officials and detained its leader. Our Patrick Riefel is monitoring it all from London. So, Patrick, how significant are these protests, and and where do they go from here after these arrests?
Hi, Carrie. Yeah. Tonight, thousands of people have again gathered in Georgia's capital Tbilisi for an 8th consecutive night as well as in other cities, and we're watching people on the streets outside the parliament right now. All week, we've been seeing these dramatic clashes as police try to violently clear the protesters using tear gas and water cannon. Protesters also barraging police with hundreds of fireworks.
The protest was sparked by the ruling party, Georgian dream, announcing that it was suspending Georgia's efforts to join the European Union. And protesters, though, see the government as moving the country away from Europe and onto an authoritarian path back towards Russia. The government in the past few days has stepped up its crackdown on the protests, arresting key opposition leaders and raiding their offices. There are also videos and accounts of police beating protesters badly. The situation strongly resembles Ukraine's 2014 Maidan Revolution, which is why Ukraine's president Zelensky last night announced sanctions on Georgian officials.
The US now has also threatened its preparing sanctions. The government, though, defiant. The prime minister today vowing to eradicate the opposition. This is an escalating crisis with potentially big implications for Europe and Russia. Kiro.
Alright. Patrick Riebel, as we follow the live pictures there out of Georgia. Appreciate your reporting. Coming up, 2 kindergartners fighting for their lives after another tragic school shooting. We take it in Northern California next.
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The FBI now teaming up with local authorities here in Butte County, California. They are sharing some more of a sort of timeline, what they know so far about that suspect. They have ID'd the suspect, but are not yet sharing their identity. Sharing with us, however, that the suspect was dropped off here at the school with a ride share, then walked in to have a meeting with the school's principal. The principal then telling authorities that he did not suspect any red flags, nothing alarming during their meeting.
They discussed possibly enrolling a child here at the school. Well, moments after that, that's when witnesses say that the shooter walked outside into the classroom area and shot at 2 students shortly after that, turning the gun onto themselves. While those 2 students, ages 56, kindergarten boys, they were rushed to the hospital. They are in extremely critical condition, and we're waiting updates, of course, for their recovery.
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And violating constitutional rights, the DOJ's deep dive on a racist Memphis police department, justice, retiree Nichols this hour. Deny, defend, depose. Writings found on the bullet casing speak to a possible motive. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Kira Phillips.
The NYPD says it's closing in on identifying the killer who gunned down a powerful CEO in broad daylight on the streets of New York City. Investigators releasing these new images showing the face of a man wanted for questioning in connection with that murder. They're asking for your help now in identifying him. Police say UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when the shooter approached him from behind and fired several rounds into his back at point blank range. And now clues left behind at the scene suggest he may have had serious grievances with the health care insurance industry.
Joining me now are Morgan Norwood and former NYPD chief of detectives, Bob Boyce. Alright. Morgan, what's the latest on the search right now?
Hi, Kira. Good to be with you. Yes. Police have just released new images of the suspect. And in these new images, we see the suspect's face very clearly.
They're now blasting these images out to the public. You see them around unwanted, posters. You can see that image right there. We also have another 1 that we wanna show you as well where you can see his face very clearly. We also are learning that authorities are searching a hostel on the Upper West Side in New York City where they think the suspect had been staying.
Authorities, again, are there as we speak. There's a photo I was just speaking about. They believe that he shared a room with 2 other men. Now all of this comes as we got new doorbell video, from a doorbell camera on the upper west side showing that suspect riding an ebike. You know, someone else also snapping a photo of the suspect as he took off from the shooting.
So these sightings are really critical, to police when it comes to piecing together a timeline, placing him in different areas, just trying to narrow down that search zone, what appears to be right now, the upper west side of Manhattan and ultimately finding out where he's holed up. But overall, investigators, finding a treasure trove of evidence, including the words deny, defend, and depose written on shell casings at the scene, which could indicate some sort of dissatisfaction with, you know, the insurance agency or just the insurance industry as a whole. Police obviously working to uncover a motive at this hour, Kira.
Well, Bob, let's talk about a possible motive here. Those bullet casings with the words deny, defend, and depose, that was what was written written on them. So let's talk about what those words mean in the insurance biz and and what they could reveal about a motive here.
Sure. So let's first off by saying the the number 1, primary thing right now is identify him and then apprehend him. And the motive comes a little bit after that, so there's 2 pursuits here. It's important to understand that this is insurance company vernacular, and he's looking to send a message. I will tell you, Gohak here, doing this a long time, investigations.
I never seen anybody write anything on a, shell casings that we picked up, to give us a clue. And it really makes you think exactly what's in his head. He's doing this in the holiday season in the middle of Manhattan's busiest busiest area on Sixth Avenue. Is he now he's sending a message. Is he is he and he's picking the biggest police department in the country.
Does he wanna be identified? Does he wanna make this bigger statement? And you have to consider that when you go to motive here. And it's it's unusual. And so the the primary thing I can say is get him in custody now, and we'll not learn more about it.
But this motive this motive right here is pretty clear cut at this point.
So then, Bob, police have also recovered a cell phone, a candy wrapper, several other pieces of evidence they believe are linked to the suspect. So DNA, right, could lead them, to this suspect much quicker than expected?
It could, but you have to go forensics has to be developed, and that takes a little while, especially a DNA profile. And we don't know if it's if if this individual's any database has to be compared to yet. That'll come later again when we apprehend them. I think we're gonna have random today sometime. The Navy gave it to hostile.
They don't believe it's his, but they're running it down anyway. So that picture is going out to the public, all aided the investigation as well. It's pretty pretty clear looking at this individual to get him in custody. When he uses the hostel, we don't know. He got out of there before we got there, but now we're gonna figure out where he goes from there.
And that's that's important. Again, the the motivation is is is really secondary at this point. Get him in custody, and all of a sudden, this thing will all open up at this point. By the way, the shooting, they've they think they know what the weapon is. At this point, the mayor said it today at B and D stations B and T station 6 handgun, it's a replica from World War 2.
It's unusual. There's not a lot of them out there, and it's costly as well. So and you knew how to use it. So these things all come to frame now. Exactly when you do a deep dive on that, who owns those guns,
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go knocking on doors to see if it's related to this case.
Alright. We'll keep tracking it. As you say, you believe that they are close to finding this guy. We'll report it as soon as we know. Morgan, Bob, thank you both so much.
So he says if he becomes secretary of defense, he'll stop drinking. Promises from president-elect Donald Trump's embattled pick to run the Pentagon, Pete Hegseth says he's not going anywhere either.
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That it may be too late for him. The president-elect has no plans to work the phones to save Hegseth's nomination, but his mom sure is. Apparently, Penelope Hegseth has been picking up the phone herself and dialing up senders on her son's behalf saying he's a changed man. Senior reporter Kathryn Faulders in West Palm Beach, Florida, and Jay O'Brien is up there on Capitol Hill. So Kathryn, Trump made calls on behalf of Matt Gaetz, so why not make them for Hegseth?
Yeah. It's a great question. And and, frankly, I think inside the Trump, transition team, the the vibe is that this is his to lose here. He is up there defending himself. He's meeting, with members, of the the he's meeting with senators up there.
He's trying to convince them that he is a changed man, that he's not gonna drink if he is to be the next, secretary of defense, for example. But, of course, it's all these allegations about, mistreatment, of women that has, many of these senators extremely concerned. I know that we have found, all of the women senators on Capitol Hill to see what they would say. And, frankly, I I believe only 1 has said, that she would support his nomination. So he can't lose all those votes because his confirmation obviously wouldn't go through.
So, yes, it was different with Matt Gaetz. Trump was working the phones. He was trying to save Gaetz, but it became very clear to Trump himself that Gaetz was just not gonna have the votes. Now the Trump transition team is focused on where those women Republican senators stand, that they're trying to get a gage on that privately behind the scenes, because they do know that if they lose, many of those women, this nomination won't go through. I don't think they have a good sense of that now, but that's at least the focus.
And Trump is is not, working the phones on behalf of Hagsat, at least, to the best of our knowledge. Essentially, his understanding and and his vibe on it is that it's Hegseth's nomination to lose that he has to defend himself on this.
So, Jay, all eyes remaining on senator Joni Ernst today. She still won't say if she'll support
Hegseth or not.
Okay. It doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten to a yes. If I'm wrong about that, correct me. And if that is the case, it sounds to me as if the hearing will be critical, for his nomination. Am I right about that?
I think
I think you are right. I think for a number of our senators, they wanna make sure that any allegations have been cleared, and that's why we have to have a very thorough vetting process.
As we know, she met with Hegsis yesterday, said it was a thorough conversation as well. Seems like it still wasn't enough for her, though. Jay.
Yeah. That is exactly right, Kira. And 1 of the things we've heard from Joni Ernst, for instance, is that she said she had a, quote, frank and thorough conversation with Pete Hegseth, but she wouldn't address if he put any of her concerns to rest. I asked her that question yesterday. A number of other reporters have asked her that question.
You played that exchange she just had on Fox News. And the thing with Joni Ernst is she's considered to be potentially this kind of bellwether because as Catherine noted, the Trump team is aware that they have issues with several moderate Republican senators and several female Republican senators too. And it's unclear if Pete Hegseth is doing all he can to assuage some of their concerns. Although Pete Hegseth will tell you he feels confident that he has the support of president-elect Trump over the course of this process, regardless of how tumultuous it may be. I asked him that question earlier as he met with senator Mike Rounds, a top Republican.
I asked him, did he speak with president-elect Trump earlier? He said that he did, and he said that the president-elect told them that he had told him rather that he has his full support. Again, a potential rocky confirmation process, but clear from the Republicans, including Ernst, who said on Fox News that they want Hegseth to go through this process. They want him to have a confirmation hearing before the Armed Services Committee, and they want him to publicly, under oath, address some of these allegations, Kira.
Well, Kathryn Ernst isn't just a vote here. She's also a potential runner-up for this gig.
Yeah. She is a potential runner-up for this gig, and and she's obviously telegraphed that she would, want this job should Hegseth, drop out. She's telegraphed that back to Donald Trump here. She's been spotted a lot, at Mar a Lago, meeting with the president-elect. So it's not just our own sets in the running for this.
We know that Trump has reached out specifically to other people about, whether they would be interested in this job, including, right there on your screen, governor, Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, who Trump was with earlier this week. We're told by sources that Trump asked him if he would be interested in it, and DeSantis said, that he would be. So it depends, but part of the reason why Trump isn't picking up the phones is because he's having active conversations about who would replace HEGSAT if this nomination goes south.
And, Jay, before we let you guys go, the bros, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswami on the hill as well, pitching their new department of government efficiency. This ought to be interesting when we hear from them. Apparently, they're supposed to hold a live event.
Yeah. They're gonna meet with Republicans and Democrats behind closed or should be not Democrats. They're gonna meet with Republicans from the house and senate, Kira, behind closed doors, actually, right here behind me, and then they're gonna address the media. It's unclear as to exactly what this new department of government efficiency says that it wants to do. Elon Musk, Vikram, Swamy have, put out broad promises as to what they think the agency should do, like cut, you know, 1 to 2 truly $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal budget, maybe eliminate some government positions, which would be difficult because of the unions that various government employees belong to.
They've even talked about taking serious aim at federal remote work policies. They've cited data that shows a small percentage of federal government employees go to work 5 days a week at the office at their assigned location. That's government data that the government itself has pushed back against in some form or fashion, but expect them to bring up those issues and others when they meet with Republican lawmakers. And expect us to get a clear sense, by the way, as to what comes out of that meeting as to exactly what this new quasi government agency is really gonna try to do, Kira.
Alright. Stay tuned. We'll be waiting for those remarks. Katherine Jay, thanks, guys. Well, from the transition to testifying on the hill, it's acting secrete acting secret service director Ronald Roe that's also making news this hour.
He just testified to the house panel investigating assassination attempts on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, but the hearing got pretty hairy after Republican Texas congressman Pat Fallon questioned Roe's behavior at this year's 911 remembrance ceremony. Take a listen.
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Well, it took a while, to get, order there. Justice and Homeland Security reporter Luke Bard joining me now. So why did this hearing on the assassinated attempt assassination attempts, take this turn into a screaming match over this, you know, 9 11 ceremony?
Well, Kira, it was 1 of the most electric, and intense moments, of a hearing I've, ever seen. And what had happened was rep Pat Fallon, put up a picture of the acting secret service director Ron Rowe, at the 911 Memorial Ceremony sitting behind, president Biden. And rep Fallon said that, you know, that is typically where the head of the secret service detail is sitting. Obviously, Roe, took offense to that line of questioning, and said no. You know, the secret service, special agent in charge of the president's detail was sitting right next to them.
And then that back and forth, that yelling, that screaming match happened. And Roe, you know, took offense because he said he, responded to 911. And, also, Kira, Roe, was a presidential protective detail agent himself. You know, so he he, you know, he knows what to do in the event something would happen. And, Kira, this hearing was really kind of a a mundane congressional hearing.
I mean, it was really focused on trying to reform the agency after the assassination attempt of of of president-elect Trump. So, you know, this moment is the 1 that really stands out as kind of a, a unique and and and and, you know, not really, related moment to the actual substance of the hearing, Kira.
Alright. Luke Barr, thanks so much. Excessive force and discriminating against black people. That's how a justice department report describes the behavior of Memphis police officers. This deep dive also uncovering the department's handling of children and individuals with mental disabilities.
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1 crisis team member acquired the nickname Taserface for his inordinate use of the tool. These team members routinely escalated encounters and used unnecessary force against people with behavioral disabilities, even children.
The investigation stemming from the beating death of Tire Nichols at the hands of 5 police officers back in 2023. Our senior producer, Jack Dante, joining us now. Let's talk about this report. And does it talk about changes and reforms that the police department has already put in place since this first came out?
Well, it does, Carrie. This report had some very troubling findings. They found that there's reasonable cause to believe that, the Memphis Police Department and the city engaged in a pattern or practice that violated people's constitutional rights and federal law. Among their findings, police used excessive force routinely. They made unlawful stops, searches, and arrests.
They discriminated routinely against black people. They discriminated against people with behavioral disabilities. They even, even children weren't spared the use of force. 18 year old was handcuffed and pushed down by a police officer who was trained in crisis intervention training. These are the agents that are supposed to be most sensitive, to people who are in mental crisis.
And even them, even with those agents or officers, they found troubling findings with repeated use of excessive force. So among, the the recommendations were that they need additional supervision, additional training, and, a lot more control over how their officers are deployed and trained, and their understanding of constitutional rights appears to be very lacking.
So the police department and the city of Memphis cooperated cooperated fully with the investigation, but the city is not agreeing to a court appointed monitor to oversee reforms and mediate the problems. So what's the deal?
So, typically, these types of investigations by the Department of Justice end with what's called a consent decree where the department agrees with the justice department to engage in, a reform process that's overseen by a federal judge. However, what we're probably gonna see going into the Trump administration is less use of this type of tool to seek out reform. In the 1st Trump administration, Trump's first attorney general, Jeff Sessions, basically outlawed the practice or not outlawed or at least he stopped using it. He discontinued the practice of consent decrees against police departments. And so, really, that process is pretty onerous and requires a lot of, funding and a lot of effort, and a lot of oversight, which some of the local officials believe could slow down reforms.
But, basically, they generally agree with, the recommendations and say that they will take steps, to find ways to reform their department.
Alright. Jack D'Aute will follow it. Thank you. And the country of Georgia cracking down on a growing protest movement now with at least 300 people detained this hour. Protesters calling for an end to the government there after its suspended negotiations to join the European Union.
They say the party is turning Georgia back toward Russia in a tyrannical government. Now police have raided opposition party officials and detained its leader. Our Patrick Riefel is monitoring it all from London. So, Patrick, how significant are these protests, and and where do they go from here after these arrests?
Hi, Carrie. Yeah. Tonight, thousands of people have again gathered in Georgia's capital Tbilisi for an 8th consecutive night as well as in other cities, and we're watching people on the streets outside the parliament right now. All week, we've been seeing these dramatic clashes as police try to violently clear the protesters using tear gas and water cannon. Protesters also barraging police with hundreds of fireworks.
The protest was sparked by the ruling party, Georgian dream, announcing that it was suspending Georgia's efforts to join the European Union. And protesters, though, see the government as moving the country away from Europe and onto an authoritarian path back towards Russia. The government in the past few days has stepped up its crackdown on the protests, arresting key opposition leaders and raiding their offices. There are also videos and accounts of police beating protesters badly. The situation strongly resembles Ukraine's 2014 Maidan Revolution, which is why Ukraine's president Zelensky last night announced sanctions on Georgian officials.
The US now has also threatened its preparing sanctions. The government though defiant. The prime minister today vowing to eradicate the opposition. This is an escalating crisis with potentially big implications for Europe and Russia. Kira.
Alright. Patrick Riebel, as we follow the live pictures there out of Georgia. Appreciate your reporting. Coming up, 2 kindergartners fighting for their lives after another tragic school shooting. We take it to Northern California next.
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The FBI now teaming up with local authorities here in Butte County, California. They are sharing some more of a sort of timeline, what they know so far about that suspect. They have ID'd the suspect, but are not yet sharing their identity. Sharing with us, however, that the suspect was dropped off here at the school with a ride share, then walked in to have a meeting with the school's principal. The principal then telling authorities that he did not suspect any red flags, nothing alarming during their meeting.
They discussed possibly enrolling a child here at the school. Well, moments after that, that's when witnesses say that the shooter walked outside into the classroom area and shot at 2 students. Shortly after that, turning the gun onto themselves. Well, those 2 students, ages 56, kindergarten boys, they were rushed to the hospital, and we're waiting updates, of course, for their recovery.
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Wanna take you straight to the hill. Live pictures there. You see speaker, Mike Johnson, at the podium. But what we're really talking about is the 2, rich guys not far from him, who are also really great at business, who now say they're going to spend our money wisely and attempt to fix our government. Talking about the doge bros, Elon Musk, and Vivek Ramaswami.
They are visiting our nation's capital, pitching their so called department of government efficiency. We're hoping to hear more of how they think this is going to work. Let's listen in.
Most of the American people know what they're they're capable of and what they've achieved. Both of these, gentlemen have run very successful organizations. They're innovators, and, they're forward thinkers. And so that's what we need right now. And so what you're gonna have today is, first is a a meeting that we'll have here with, decision makers, key figures in, the Republican house and senate who are chairs of committees of jurisdiction who deal with the money and financing of government and the structure of government.
We'll have chairs of the new Doge caucuses that have been set up in the senate and the house. And then after that, we'll proceed to the congressional auditorium where all of the, senate Republicans and house Republicans have been invited, and I think many of them will gather for this discussion. So there won't be a lot of detail for the press today, and that's by design because this is a brainstorming session. It is the first, again, as I said, of a long series of of meetings that will be held as we're laying the groundwork for the new year and the new congress, and you're gonna see a lot of change around here and in Washington and the way things are run. We need to make government more efficient, and that is what this whole objective is.
It's what the DOGE, effort will be about, and you're gonna see a bicameral cooperation, and it will be, by the way, bipartisan over the last 24, 48 hours. You've seen a number of our Democrat colleagues, both in the senate and the house, who have said, you know what? Sign me up. I wanna be a part of this as well. So we welcome that.
It should be a bipartisan effort, and I think we're gonna do great things for the country. So, I guess I'll take 1 or 2 questions. But, believe
that you'll find $2,000,000,000 in cut without cutting programs like Medicaid, Social Security, do you have confidence that you could find cuts to that level,
or will this meeting be
an opportunity to level set to a more realistic number? And second question, do you support clawing back federal funds that the Biden administration is pushing out in the final days, including 2 companies like Rivian, a competitor of Tesla?
Let me let me answer these questions in reverse order. We're very frustrated by what the Biden administration appears to be doing right now, and that is, as you said, shoveling money. As as someone said on a hidden camera on a clip that I saw, someone in the administration who's charged with, distributing the funds said we're we're it's like we're dumping gold bars off the Titanic here at the end. We take over in January, and until then, the big government Democrats are still in charge, and they're spending money, in our view, recklessly. And so, yes, we've had a lot of discussions over the last couple of days about what our authority would be to claw some of that back and to stop it.
It's a it's a serious challenge, and we need to stop it and expose what's happening. That's what this effort will be about going forward. There is an enormous amount of waste, fraud, and abuse in the government, and I think everyone knows that intuitively. And so the efforts here, both with our subcommittees that are being created here and with the DOJ effort itself, will be to, to explore that, to investigate it, and lay it bare for the American people to see. I think that's how we'll begin to bring about the change that we all need.
So this is a ongoing effort. Yes.
Mister speaker, mister speaker,
Some labor unions are already fighting back. They've already signed contracts to to try and
get this, that they could be able to work
from home, things like that. Your reaction to that?
Well, there
was a report that came out today. I don't know if you all seen it, but, someone did a little survey of how many federal employees are actually working in the office. By 1 estimate, it may be about 1% if you don't count the security personnel that are covering these buildings. That is absurd, and it's not something the American people would stand for. And so 1 of the first things that I think you'll see is a demand from the new administration and from all of us in congress that federal workers return to their desks and get back to the work that they're supposed to be doing.
I think that is common sense. What you're gonna see here, the the overriding theme here, is a return to common sense and a return to turn to accountability and efficiency in government. I think that's gonna serve the people well. There'll be a lot there'll be a lot more to tell you all in the days ahead. Thanks for being here.
Thanks. Conflicts of interest. Mister Iomm
in the room, mister speaker.
It was kind of a
a a Doge dupe. I mean, we were wanting to hear from Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami about how, they were gonna pitch, their their plan here to take our money, and use it more efficiently, and streamline our government. Our Jay O'Brien is there on Capitol Hill. I don't know where the misunderstanding came from. Maybe we knew all along, Jay, but I thought we were gonna hear from these guys.
But we heard from speaker Mike Johnson who said, just stand by. Wait. They've got major reform ideas. They've talked a little bit about it on how they wanna revive, the principle of limited government. But I think all of us are sort of standing by wanting to know more details about these plans and how exactly they're gonna make it work.
So where shall we begin? I guess we're not going to hear from Musk and Ramaswami. Right?
No. I I don't expect to hear from Ramaswami or Musk, although that was the expectation that some had because this was noticed as a press event that was gonna proceed a meeting that Musk and Ramaswami and, of course, speaker Johnson and notable Republicans in congress were going to have. That meeting's going on right now as we speak. And I can tell you that I I walked into the room, which is for my shoulder here as Johnson was speaking, and Musk and Ramaswami weren't even standing next to him. They had already gone into the meeting room to meet with Republican lawmakers.
I and other reporters did catch up with Elon Musk earlier on in the day. He said his goal is to work to spend the public's money, quote, unquote, well. But to your point about specifics, we just don't have specifics as to exactly what they wanna do, Kira. We're hoping once we talk to some of the lawmakers who are meeting with Musk and Ramaswami now as we speak and then later over the course of the day to get a better sketch out of to exactly what their plans are because speaker Johnson really only gave an overview of what Musk and Ramaswami wanna do, make the government more efficient, cut spending, cut what they believe are redundancies in the federal government. We know Russ Musk and Ramaswami have talked about cutting $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal budget, maybe laying off some federal workers as well, though that might be difficult because there are federal workers, a significant number of them with union protections.
They've often talked about reworking and retooling federal remote work policies to force federal employees who are working remotely to show up to work. It's, again, very much unclear how they plan to do all that, and you heard me and other reporters ask them as they walked into that press conference and asked the speaker, what is the plan here? And no 1 to elaborate that. It's very much unclear if that's gonna come to pass after these meetings are over.
Alright. Well, let's hope we can get more information. Right now, it's a it's a lot of, pomp and circumstance, but we don't have a lot of details. So I know if anyone's gonna get the detail details, it'll be you. Jay O'Brien, they're up on the hill for us.
Jay, thank you. Alright. Deny, defend, depose. Those are the writings that were found on the bullet casings, and now they speak to a possible motive. The NYPD says it's closing in on identifying now that killer who gunned down a powerful CEO in broad daylight on the streets of New York City.
Investigators releasing these new images now showing the face of that man wanted for questioning in connection with that murder. They're asking for your help to identify him as well. Police say UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was in town for an investors conference when the shooter approached him from behind and fired several rounds into his back at point blank range. Now clues left behind at the scene are suggesting that he may have had serious grievances with the health care industry. Joining me now, ABC's Morgan Norwood, who's been on this story since it happened yesterday.
Also, NYPD chief of detectives Bob Boyce, retired. Morgan, let's start with you and just the latest in this search for this suspect that, you know, police say they're closing in on. I mean, the images are pretty clear.
Yeah. Those are the clearest images that we have thus far. I mean, those images are coming to us from a hostel, not too far in Upper West Side in New York City where they know that he had been staying. You can see him there. He appears to be smiling.
He's got that hoodie on, also that mask that, investigators believe may have been the same 1, that he wore, moments before that murder. Authorities there as we speak at that hostel, they believe that he shared a room with 2 other men. And, again, these are the clearest photos that we have, and the authorities are asking the public, for help in identifying him. Also comes as we get new, video from a doorbell camera. It shows the suspect riding on that ebike that investigators say he took off on, also on the upper west side here.
So that's the search zone, and then eyewitness eyewitnesses also snapping a photo of the suspect as he took off from the shooting. So, again, these sightings are really critical to kind of piece together the timeline, place him in a particular arrow air area, and then try to narrow, that search zone and ultimately find out where he is holed up. But as you said, Kira, investigators believe that they are very close, and, you know, those very clear photos are are just evidence of that.
So, Bob, let's talk about those bullet casings now. Police say the words deny, defend, depose were written on them. Let's talk about the vernacular here, what those words mean in the insurance business, and how this could help reveal a motive.
The words are similar to a popular book written about the insurance companies and about how they just don't wanna pay pay the, the persons who are requesting them. So it's it's it is a rally call. It's a famous book. It's close to it. It's not the same, words, but it's close to it.
The words are delayed, deny, and defend, but it's close enough. And you would it's so rare to have something etched on on a on a bullet. And so this really goes to motive. And so many other things do as well. The gun he used, what the mayor says is a BT station 6 is a replica of an assassin's pistol from World War 2, and you would have to call this man an assassin.
He's has to work from behind in the back. So a lot of interesting interesting things here. The the bullets go to premeditation, anger, something with the, with with the insurance company. Again, the thing is get let's get him in custody. That's number 1, and then we'll peel it back from there.
I think we may have a press conference later on this afternoon or this evening in regards from 1 PP, and we'll know more how the search is going. Hopefully, they have an ID by this time.
Alright. We'll talk then for sure. Morgan, Bob, thank you. So let's talk about the testifying that's been taking place on the hill today. Acting secret service director Ron Rowe, is making news this hour after testifying before the house panel investigating assassination attempts on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.
But the hearing got pretty hairy after Republican Texas congressman Pat Fallon questioned Rowe's behavior at this year's 911 remembrance ceremony. Take a listen.
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you that.
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madam chairman. Like to ask him a quest Please.
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you are I am a public servant who has served this nation, and you have time. Question. On our day on our country's darkest day.
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word. Criticize it.
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Yeah. It got pretty intense. Justice Homeland Security reporter Luke Barr joining me now. So how did this hearing that was supposed to be focused on assassination attempts, those assassination attempts on Trump, you know, turn into this screaming match?
Well, Kira, that was about the most electric and explosive moment you will see at a congressional hearing. What happened was rep Pat Fallon of Texas asked, Roe, you know, he showed a picture of Roe at the 911 remembrance event earlier this year in New York, and he asked why he was standing directly behind president Biden. Fallon said that's the seat that's typically reserved for the head of the president's detail, and, of course, that set Roe off. He accused, rep Fallon of politicizing the event, and it you know, said that he was there observing, the event, and he responded to 911, and that he, you know, was really there to show support for the men and women, that were were lost. And, you know, Ron Rowe was the head of the presidential protective detail, while he was an agent.
So it's it's he is used to being in that seat, you know, and and he mentioned that the the agent was directly next to, you know, where he was sitting at that event. And, Kira, this hearing was a rather mundane hearing. It was it focused on sort of the the back and forth of the attempted assassination of the president-elect, and ways, they can reform the agency. But, clearly, this moment is making the most headlines, Kira.
Alright. Luke Bar. Thank you. So the pressure is mounting on South Korea's president. Protesters increasing their calls for president Yook Soo Yul to resign amid the fallout of his controversial move to enact emergency martial law.
Opposition parties also submitting a joint motion to impeach president Yoon with a possible vote coming as early as tomorrow. But if that wasn't enough, Yoon is now accepting the resignation of his defense minister. Our foreign correspondent, Brett Clinton, has been following the story since it happened in the wee hours of the morning, Korea time. So, Britt, what do you make of Yoon accepting his defense minister's resignation, and do you think his presidency is just completely falling apart?
Well, it certainly looks like it. We now know that Yoon is being insurrection in South Korea, it transcends any kind of presidential immunity. Opposition members and South Korean media, they've said it was actually the defense minister who, basically suggested martial law to Yoon. But it's become also very clear during the hearing in parliament, that very few other officials knew about Yoon's plan, which, quite frankly, shocked the entire nation and the world. You know, we heard from the state department saying there will be questions asked of of what exactly happened.
We know that the US and South Korea have this decades old military treaty, which means that they will come to each other's aid if in case there is any any conflict. And South Korea is also a very important source of support for the US, a vital ally, to meet, against any threats from from China, from from North Korea, and from Russia. So, you know, this was a high stakes gamble, and it really does seem to have backfired.
Well, what do we know about this likely vote for impeachment now?
Yeah. So it's likely going to take place on Saturday. It is being pushed by the opposition, even as the president's party says that it will not support this motion. What we we need to see right now in order for this to happen is that 8, members of Yoon's own party need to abandon him and vote to support this motion in order for it to happen. It needs to pass by a 2 thirds majority in the 300 seat parliament.
But, you know, opposition lawmakers, Kyra, they're saying that even if this motion fails to pass the first time, they will keep trying until Yoon is impeached.
Well, let's talk about what happens next then just depending on on this on how the vote goes, I guess, Brett. I mean, it looks like he was already up for impeachment. Right? And and now this has just escalated everything.
Yeah. So I think there
are 2 things. First of all, if it is passed, it will go to a constitutional court. If they decide, that it will go further, then he will have to step, step down, and a decision will have to be made in a 180 days. Now in that time, he can still stay in the presidential residence, but his powers would be temporarily handed over to the prime minister. If he still does dig his heels in, from what we've seen the last, couple of days, you know, there will be probably protests.
You know, we've seen protests all day up until the evening. There was a candlelight vigil, this evening. Certainly, I think you can't underestimate how angry, how outraged people are in South Korea right now to have their democracy tested in such a dramatic way and to have their parliament thrown into complete chaos. So in the face of all that, I think it will be very hard for him to dig his heels in further and to hold on to power, Kira.
Alright. Rick Clinnett, thank you. We'll continue to follow the story. We're also following that fast moving winter storm that's bringing white out conditions and more snow from the great lakes to the northeast. Millions of people under snow alerts as several feet pile up on the roads.
Our Trevor Aldis in Watertown, New York near the Canadian border. Trevor, how's it looking?
Hey there, Kira. So millions of people
are still under snow and wind alerts. And where we are here in Watertown, we are once again under a winter storm warning. We've got all this snow left behind from the first system that moved through. We could easily see in some areas around here another foot or 2 of snow. And what makes this system especially dangerous is that we're also seeing some strong wind gust up to 50 miles an hour.
We've been watching whiteout conditions sweeping across the plains into the upper Midwest. We sadly have seen a few more deadly incidents out there on the roads. Even today, saw another incident, bet traffic backup at the very least on I90. This is south of Buffalo. Westbound traffic backed up because of these incidents, and it could continue to get worse through the afternoon into the evening in western New York.
In northern New York where we are could get very dicey. We also wanna remind people that there are risks to this weather beyond just driving. Officials in Buffalo say this week, 2 people died after suffering heart attacks when they were shoveling and snow blowing. It is a good reminder for your older family members. Gotta be cautious.
Take your time even with all this snow coming down. Kira?
Alright. Thank you so much, Trevor. We'll keep tracking it. And now a a tsunami warning is in effect for Oregon and parts of Northern California after a large earthquake. The US geological survey says that a 6.6 earthquake hit just off the coast of Humboldt County in Northern California around 11 AM local time.
Our affiliate KGO in San Francisco is in rolling coverage now. Let's go ahead and listen in.
And about exactly what's happening in the area.
Are there any areas in particular along the San Francisco coastline that you are, especially concerned about as we, are thinking about that 12:10 expected time when a tsunami, those waves could be reaching the coast?
Any any area of the coastline, most specifically, of course, the Ocean Beach side is going to be impacted, possibly if something happens.
And, as you were mentioning, you were waiting to get reports of of damage, at your stations and, obviously, across the, the greater, San Francisco area. Are you hearing anything? Is anything coming through on your phone as we're having this conversation with you, Justin?
I think we might have lost him. So we do appreciate that conversation with, Justin Shore with the San Francisco, fire department. And, of course, they always have their procedures. Fortunately, this is not epicenter near us like the Luma Prieta earthquake was in 1989, which resulted in so much damage in San Francisco and the fires that burned in the Marina District in particular. Obviously, we're not hearing reports of that with this quake that was far away, but it is always a reminder for us to, really put upgrades into our systems.
Right? Whether it's the fire, you know, ability to turn on the water and make sure that those hydrants are working effective even in emergency and the backup plan. So, we will continue to have those conversations with experts as we cover the 7 0 earthquake that happened about 30 minutes ago now off the coast of Humble County in the Ferndale area.
We do wanna emphasize a point that Justin with the San Francisco Fire Department made is that you wanna stay away from the coastline. There's nothing to go see. This is not the time to be, you know, someone that tries to do something for the thrill of it, right, to to try
and get close
to something.
Please. This is not the time. So do not, go near the coastline. If you are along the coast right now, you want to get inland, as he said.
You
wanna be at least a 100 feet, above sea level is what he also mentioned.
Yes. And then real interesting, the USGS has some good data and maps that kinda show us what's going on with this earthquake. And this is the did you feel it map. Alright? So when you look at this, you can kind of, see where folks felt it more intensely and where they're reporting it.
This is the interactive map. But even as we zoom in here in the Bay Area, Julian, you can see there are plenty of people who reported feeling the 707.0 quake. It was 100 of miles away to be sure, but it was strong enough and shallow enough and traveled here quickly enough that you can see immediately all the reports of folks who felt it. And this is throughout the Bay Area, even down in Santa Cruz.
Down to Santa Cruz, we've also had viewers reach out from Mountain View, from Hayward, from San Leandro, and, of course, here in San Francisco saying they did, in fact, feel the earthquake. We wanna bring back in our meteorologist, Drew Tuma, for more information on this major 7.0 earthquake felt, there off the coast of Humboldt County. Drew?
Yeah. And the number 1 question, I'm getting from friends, from family, and I know a lot of you at home are thinking, how seriously do I take the tsunami warning? We need to take it seriously until it's not a problem. So that just means you do wanna take what Julian said. And if you do live near the coast, a good idea to move inland, like Julian said, move a100 feet inland because right now, we do have a lot of buoys along our coast that can monitor if the sea level is rising.
I just checked them moments ago, and none of the buoys currently are showing a dramatic rise in the water. That's not to say that there isn't waves being generated by this big earthquake right now. But currently, over the last 15 minutes, we have not seen a rise in the buoys quite yet along the Northern California coast, but we need to take this tsunami warning very seriously. It's very rare for us to get this kind of warning, but this is an area that we've been talking about all morning long. It's just this area where 3 plates are coming together, kinda smashing into each other, and they can create these big earthquakes like we're seeing right now.
Again, a magnitude 7.0 is a major earthquake, and the epicenter of it did occur over the open ocean water. And when you have kind of a big jolt in the plates like this, it can displace, water for a period of time, and that's what we heard from officials just moments ago. So, again, if you're just tuning into us, we are tracking this major earthquake that occurred, right before 10:45 this morning. We showed you that shake map. Folks did feel some shaking in parts of the Bay Area, and the epicenter of this earthquake is a little more than 200 miles away, from the city of San Francisco.
And you could see the depth on that about 6 miles down. So that's a pretty deep earthquake, meaning, you could feel it over a pretty wide area when we have a magnitude 7 0. But this is just 1 of 3 earthquakes we are tracking. I do wanna show you the other ones. This 1 occurred almost at the same time.
It was more inland in Humboldt County. This 1 was a magnitude 6 0, and we also had another 1 even closer to home here. This 1 occurred at 10:47. That's a magnitude 5.8. So all of these earthquakes occurred in about a 3 minute period.
And so it's not rare when you have a magnitude 7 like we had moments ago that it can also trigger other earthquakes along the fault line. And this is an area where the San Andreas Fault meets 2 other tectonic plates, and that's why you can get a big earthquake like this. And, again, for a lot of us locally, the biggest earthquake, we have felt probably in the past decade was the Napa quake back in 2014. You go back to 1989, Loma Prieta, that was also a strong earthquake, but those earthquakes were not 7 point o's. So that's what we're watching here over the open ocean is that we had a pretty major earthquake.
And just to put it in perspective, on average, around the entire globe, we see less than 20 of these types of earthquakes every year, so it's pretty uncommon. And that's why those alerts went off over your phone for the potential of a tsunami. It's just putting you on guard that this type of earthquake can generate waves again. I'll keep looking at the buoy data. Kristen and Julian, you mentioned that if we do see these waves, they would probably appear just afternoon.
So in about,
let's say, a half
hour or so, we could start seeing some first ripples of water. If you remember years ago, we had a similar warning, around Santa Cruz where we did see some higher wave heights, but they were not intense. But that's something we're gonna track very closely over the next 30 minutes or so, see if any of these buoys do show, an increase in wave heights. But, again, we're tracking this 7 0 magnitude earthquake occurred at 10:44 AM in an area, that is well documented. Again, 3 plates coming together, guys.
I'll keep checking on those buoy datas. If I flag anything weird, meaning that we see an increase in wave heights, I'll be sure to come back on air. But for now, we are tracking what was a magnitude 7.0 earthquake out over in the Pacific at 10:44 this morning.
Alright. Drew, thank you so much for that latest information. We wanna give you a live look now. This is Eureka, which as you know is north of here, very close to Humble, and it's pretty much just due east of where this earthquake happened in the ocean. Right?
So if you take Eureka and you go due west, that is where the epicenter is. So Eureka would have felt it very strongly. Here's a live camera from the UC San Diego network of cameras. You were not able to tell much from here. Certainly, no wave activity here in look what looks like a bay.
But we will say UC Berkeley or Berkeley has just issued, an evacuation order from its coastal areas, along the bay. They're not even on the ocean. Okay? But along the bay, because this, once it comes in from the ocean, it does enter the bay, and it could elevate the level of the water in the bay. So if you're around the bay, even if you're not out on Half Moon Bay, or, you know, Pescadero or along the coast in Santa Cruz, you are still asked to take precaution until we get the all clear on the tsunami.
And, again, keep in mind, based on the mathematical calculations of the waves and how they travel and the time, 12:10 is our biggest danger period. 12:10 PM. So we're not there yet. Don't go near the coast or even the bay shoreline.
Exactly. This is essentially the calm before the storm, so to speak. 12:10 is the, time that we're watching closely right now. We are taking some live pictures from Sky 7. If someone could jump in my ear and tell me where we're looking at right now.
Okay. This is down in Pacifica. We are also getting reports that Pacifica Police, they're currently patrolling the coastline, making sure that folks are not on the coastline and that they are getting to higher ground and getting to safety because around the 12 o'clock hour is where we will be, most concerned. We're we're also taking the live images right now where we're seeing some folks appearing to have evacuated. This appears to be, some sort of a sports playing field, or it it it was near it, and there seem to be in a parking lot where they are trying to, again, get to higher ground there in Pacifica.
I'm not certain, but I think that could be Pacifica High School. Okay. In the meantime,
San Francisco Zoo, which is,
as you know, along Ocean Avenue and directly, you know, right along there, along the coastline and beach, They have evacuated as well. So here is their tweet, posting on x. The zoo has closed due to national weather emergency and tsunami warning. Guests have been evacuated. And you also see they refer to the animals.
They have been secured and the staff. They moved to higher ground, which is what everyone is being told to do right now in the wake of this 7.0 earthquake in Northern California. That is, correct me if I'm wrong, somebody, but I think that is the biggest 1 that I remember in quite some time, perhaps in all my time on the air here. We had the 6 0 earthquake in 1989, of course, in Loma Prieta, and that was hugely destructive. This being off the ocean and, you know, the whole Humboldt County, Eureka area being much less population, much less densely built up with much less infrastructure.
Hopefully, we are not seeing damage and great destruction, and, hopefully, we'll all get through it. But the tsunami warning again is very real right now past 12:10, and even then, wait for the clearing.
Exactly. And, as if you're just joining us as we, are in our breaking news coverage here of this 7 0 magnitude earthquake felt off the coast of Humboldt County, we wanna let you know we are gonna get you through this. We are not here to alarm or scare you, but we are here to give you the most accurate information to protect you and your family, as we navigate the situation. This was felt about, 10:45, was when the earthquake was registered. And, again, we're giving you live images right here.
To the left, I believe, is Pacifica. We see some surfers, and this is exactly what you do not want to do. We have been told to share with our viewing audience to get away from the coast because in the next 30 minutes is when we expect to see some intense waves. And there are pictures of people trying to snap pictures and get video. This is not the time to do that.
Pacifica police are also patrolling right now to try and get folks away from the coastline. On the right hand side of your screen, you are looking at a live image from Eureka, which is closer to Humboldt County, the epicenter, of where this, earthquake was felt again off the coast of Humboldt County. Again, calm there right now, but we do expect, in the coming half hour or so for things to change drastically. But, again, on the left hand side of your screen, quite the duality. We see those surfers, trying to ride some of these waves as we could expect much larger waves to come in in the next half hour.
We appreciate our viewers who've been calling in with reports of what they have seen and felt, as a result of this earthquake. I'll run down some of these quickly. In Hayward, Sophia told us that she saw her house or felt her house moving, and she felt that small wave as we can sometimes feel, as those tectonic plates shift, and we feel that earthquake, that energy being dispersed throughout the area. Jose called. He said he lives near Mission Bay, and he received that tsunami alert that so many of us did around 10:50 this morning on our phones.
In San Lorenzo, Rashni felt the shaking and felt the house move sideways in 2 shakes, as the earthquake whirled through. Mhmm. We've also received some reports from Sacramento from Lula. A pool water splashed, and the water inside of that pool made some waves. We've also heard reports from Mohammed in Union City felt shaking and saw the dining table and even chandlers move and shake.
In Dublin, Earl told us he felt the shaking there. In Newark, Melody told us she felt about 3 to 5 seconds of mild rolling. And in Daly City, Joanne felt the shake at about 10:53 this morning. So, again, we've, felt reports of shaking, a few reports of damage, that being the good news right there. But, certainly, folks all across the Bay Area have felt, that 7 0 magnitude earthquake, off the coast of Humboldt County.
Including in Berkeley where they have issued an evacuation order due to the tsunami coming to West Berkeley. And, of course, West Berkeley, directly is on the bay touching the bay. So you can see those red zones. Those are certainly the areas where people are deemed to be in immediate danger and must evacuate now. They are asking people to stay east of seventh Street.
That is a bustling area down there with a lot of restaurants and shops, but people are being told to evacuate right now due to this danger of the incoming tsunami that may be coming to West Berkeley as a result of that earthquake that happened just before we came on the air today, in Humboldt County.
And there is the concern that there could be some significant damage from these waves that come crashing ashore when we begin to feel the effects, of the tsunami and the waves that could be associated with it. I was on the air, what was it, maybe 3 or 4 years ago. There was a major earthquake in Japan, and we received a tsunami, alert here in the San Francisco Bay Area. And I vividly remember those live images that we had at the Berkeley Marina, of those boats there that were being tossed around pretty badly, again, as a result, of feeling those waves created from that earthquake. And, of course, that was thousands of miles away.
Yes. Here just, you know, a couple of 100 miles away in Humboldt County off the coast there, that's where the epicenter of that earthquake was, and we could certainly expect to see some damage, in our local marinas as a result of it. Just
keeping my fingers crossed. I know we've been working to pull up the video from 2011 when, we had, a situation in Santa Cruz. But right now, let's bring in the USGS, which is having a briefing. Let's listen in.
For the future. So, we we do expect magnitude, 5 or above in the next week in different, probabilities, and this also will get updated.
Along the coast of Oregon or Northern California Great.
No. Great.
Thank you.
They are issuing a tsunami warning Hold
on a second. I'm gonna mute everybody here.
California all
Okay. Sorry. Sorry about that. Bob and Christine, you'll need to unmute your lines again. Well, thank you for that, Christine.
Bob, can you give us a an update on on the what happened with ShakeAlert here this afternoon?
Yes. And 1, just to let people know, 1 thing that we're, of course, ultimately concerned about is human safety. We wanna make sure everyone is safe and we want to to ensure that, people know what to do if they feel shaking or if they get alert, drop, cover, and hold on. And, for this, we have the shake alert earthquake early warning system. It was activated for this earthquake.
And we see that alert deliveries occurred to cell phones as far north as Lincoln City, Oregon. So that's north of Corvallis, all the way into the to the Cascades region, into the west or to the east. Excuse me. And then, alert deliveries all the way south to Salinas in Central California. So this is, this is what the, West Coast earthquake early warning system does is it lets people know, that shaking, is coming from an earthquake.
And so we know the system was activated. It actually performed as as designed. And we're trying to get some updates about the extent of the alert deliveries that happened. But we're getting multiple reports on on our, social media channel at usgs_shakealertonx to find out what, what people actually experienced.
Okay. Thank you very much, Bob. Just a reminder to keep your, microphones, on mute if you're not talking. But go ahead. And if there's anyone that has some, questions, we're willing to take those now.
But please do use the raise hand function, and I'll call on you. Alright. Hannah, it looks like, that you're up. Are you able to unmute your mic? Yeah.
There we go.
Yeah. I'm here. Thank you so much. Hannah Hageman with the San Francisco Chronicle. So I just wanna clarify a couple of things.
It sounds like the 5.8, magnitude earthquake that was inland off the 101. Christine, was am I am I right in that that do did this happen, or do we not know what the magnitude of that earthquake was?
So the magnitude was overestimated. So it was actually a much smaller event. The last I heard, it was reassessed as a 2.5, Is as the seismic waves from the 7, came in, there was a triggering, for that event. It it it was a very small event. So the the specific magnitude might get reassessed, but last I looked like 5 minutes ago, it was as a 2.5 for that.
So we have 1 large shock, the magnitude 7 and all the other earthquakes except 1 are on the 4 after that.
Okay. Got it. And then can I, just really quick following up? You you were mentioning a bit on the risk of aftershocks, Christine. Can you clarify what the situation is with that and how to communicate to people what we know about the risk of aftershocks?
So when there's a large event like this, there's disruption, and we do expect aftershocks. And the general trends are that the aftershocks will decrease in intensity, so how large they are, and their frequency, so how often they happen with time. Right now, we do, an after, aftershock forecast that's on the page I've shared in the chat. There's the aftershock foreshock forecast there. So, you know, right now as of now, for the next week, we can expect a 6% chance or so for magnitude 6 or larger.
And as you go down to smaller magnitude, like 5 and above, the the probability is is closer to 40%. So but the general, concept is that earthquakes are expected following a large 1 such as a 7. That's a major earthquake. They'll decrease in intensity and what people feel and in frequency over time. And our page gets updated regularly with the aftershock forecast.
Because as you can imagine, if we have a a a slightly larger 1 that that follows very soon, it's gonna change the pattern of expected aftershocks. So I hope this was clear enough.
Thank you. That's very helpful. Do we know anything about the origin of these earthquakes? I know that this large 7 0 is is what I expect close to be to the subduction Cascadia subduction zone. Can you speak at all to the origin of potentially?
Yeah. So this this area is very seismically active. There's actually 3 large tectonic plates that connect there. So it is expected to have a large earthquakes, and at the confluence of those those plates that really where the stress goes and gets released, through these earthquakes. So it's not surprising to have large earthquakes in this area.
Magnitude 7 is quite large, but then again, this is 1 of the most seismically active area that we have on the West Coast.
Sorry. Just to clarify specifically, the Cascadia subduction zone you're speaking about?
Yes. There there's 3 main plates, the Garda plate, the Pacific plate, and, oh, that's embarrassing. 3 plates. I'm sorry about that. I will, I will gather the the proper information, on on the specific plates.
But, yes, it's the Cascadia subduction zone that ends in that area, and then you have the Pacific plate and the Florida plate there. Thank you. Yeah.
K. Thank you, Christine, and thank you for the question, Hannah. I just wanna point out that we do have some, information in the chat that will be useful for you and your reporting. There's the earthquake, event page that you can, click on and get different products, in there. Again, I just wanna remind you, if you have any questions, go ahead and, use the raise hand function.
And I think what we're gonna do is, if we're not getting a lot of questions right now, I think we're gonna take a break and then come back in, in about, 20:20 to 30 minutes, and we'll send out another email when we're ready to do that, so you guys can
Okay. We were just listening in live to that press briefing from the USGS. We were hearing that 1 of the, 2 earthquakes that we were paying close attention to had been downgraded inside, that that being the smaller of the 2 earthquakes that, was in the roughly the 5 point magnitude, area. But, again, the main concern is still the major powerful earthquake, 7 0, felt off the coast, in the epicenter of Humboldt County. We are taking some live images right now.
The left hand side of your screen, you see, folks finally leaving Pacifica Beach. There were surfers who were in the water, and we know that the Pacifica police are currently patrolling, the coastline to try and get any onlookers, any surfers out of the water because we expect, some large waves could be rolling in in the next 20 to 30 minutes or so. 12:10 is the, forecasted time when we could expect to see some of those tsunami associated waves hitting the San Francisco coastline. Because of that, the San Francisco Fire Department asking everyone to get at least 1 mile from the coast and at least a 100 feet above sea level. We still are taking these live images, however, of seeing surfers trying to get some last minute joy riding those waves in the last minute.
You know, we get that they are in there for the thrill of it, but things can get very dangerous. This is exactly what, fire departments, police departments up and down the coast are asking folks not to do.
Do we still have that shot also of the cars trying to evacuate Pacifica? Because we wanna show folks, what's happening out there. So so as you know, throughout different regions, there are people trying to drive away from the coastal areas. So what we saw there right here in Pacifica is folks on highway 1 trying to leave the coastal area, and, you can see just past those 2 on the beach, the woman with the dog, what's happening as the car's behind her. People are trying to get out.
We're also seeing pictures like that coming in from Eureka, from, various coastal places. You can see there are also official vehicles, sharers, police, directing people, trying to get people to evacuate, and that does include the Great Highway in San Francisco. We told you the San Francisco Zoo off the Great Highway there. They're getting you know, they've evacuated already, and now the Great Highway is also evacuated. Police vehicles trying to get people to detour and get off that immediate, adjacent road to the ocean, the Pacific Ocean, which here in San Francisco, the tsunami forecast was to hit around 12:10 at 12:10 in less than 30 minutes.
And, of
course, we will be with you, every step of the way as we get closer to that time and through it. We do also wanna let you know that we're hearing that Berkeley police, they are moving folks away from the water there. Obviously, the concern is the waves that are first going to be felt along the Pacific coastline then making it, into the bay, which could cause some damage along places like the Berkeley Marina, for example. So that's why police there are trying to get folks away from the coastline. Mhmm.
We do wanna get back to meteorologist Drew Tooma, with an update on what we're experiencing. And, Drew, you know, other tips that could be helpful as we get closer to that 12:10 time frame that we're most concerned about.
And officials are doing everything we're supposed to be doing when we go under a tsunami warning. You do wanna get people certainly out of the ocean, get those surfers out. If you maybe know somebody who is at the beach along our coast, good idea. Just give them a call. Check-in with them.
They may not know what is exactly going on right now, but the big picture is that we are underneath this tsunami warning. So it stretches all the way from Santa Cruz, including the entire coastline of the Bay Area up through Oregon. So this tsunami warning, began at 11:24 this morning, and you can see it's going for a long period of time. Do I think we'll be under that warning for the next 3 days or so? No.
But the next few hours, we do need to take this seriously. I think that's the number 1 question I'm just getting from people, from friends, from family who are texting. How seriously do I need to take this? We need to take this absolutely seriously until we get the all clear, until we know for sure that this magnitude 7.0 earthquake that occurred at 10:44 just an hour ago, off the coast of Humboldt County, that 7.0, if it did or did not generate some significant waves. Still looking at all the buoy data right now, and there's nothing abnormal, but we have to keep our eyes on these buoys over the next couple of hours because the epicenter of the earthquake was about 225 miles away, from the city of San Francisco.
So some tips, if we can. This might get cut off a little bit. If we can maybe take that full for just a second. So what to do? Because, tsunami warning is not something that we encounter here on a daily basis.
Yes. We know living along the ocean and in earthquake country that we do have the potential that we could go under tsunami warning. So we're watching the water very closely. All of those folks in coastal communities, you know, talk about those in Pacifica, you know, Half Moon Bay, Santa Cruz, even up in the North Bay, Stinson Beach, Bodega Bay. If you live in these areas close to the coast, you do wanna move inland.
Get inland, a good 100 feet away from the water. And it's a really good idea right now as we're underneath just the beginning of the tsunami warning. Just make a plan with your family and friends. If something is to occur, set a meeting point somewhere that you guys can all get together, if we do see waves that do become higher in height. A really good idea, this third 1, look for warning signs.
If you begin to see a longer coast and, of course, we have our network of cameras along the coast, and we're gonna be watching this very closely. If we do start to see kind of a sudden draining of the ocean water along our coast, that's a very good sign that we'll likely see some increased wave heights coming our way. So just wanna watch the water very closely. The big takeaway, if you live near the coast, you do wanna move away, seek some higher ground until we get the all clear because we did have a major earthquake. So what you're looking at right now, is kind of the shaking intensity in the area where you see all those yellows and red dots, off the coast of Eureka.
That is where we had the 7 0 earthquake, guys.
Okay. Drew Toomey, thank you so much for those really important tips there. We're looking at some video on the right hand side of your screen now from, Humboldt County, very close, obviously, to the epicenter of the earthquake 7 0 in magnitude that was felt just off the coastline. It appears that that is video of a bar, a restaurant, and you can see glass all over the floor. Now we wanna bring in Carolyn Titus.
She is a resident of Ferndale. They're in Humboldt County. Carolyn, can you hear us okay? Hi there, Carolyn. It's Julian and Christian from ABC 7 News here in San Francisco.
Can you hear us?
Yes. I can.
Okay. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you doing? How are you feeling? And what did you feel, as that earthquake rolled in about an hour ago?
It was a major 1. It was definitely, got our attention. But miraculously, I just did a walk down our historic main street, and there's not 1 plate glass window out, which is amazing for us.
That is amazing. But what we're looking at the video here, Caroline and by the way, I should mention to our viewers that you are the former publisher of the Ferndale Enterprise, so you're very well aware of what we do here in the media and the information we're trying to get. So we appreciate you calling us. Is that video from your home, or is that a bar nearby, in the downtown area you were speaking up?
Well, I I can't see what's on your screen, but the Victorian Inn, which is over a 130 years old across the street from our house, That's, what happened there. That door those huge doors, usually during a big 1, that door seems to fall off the hinges. But just surveying all the storefronts, the grocery store, the liquor store, etcetera, it's just stuff off the shelves.
That's what you're seeing. Yeah. It's it's amazing.
And it
It's like a bar with a lot of bottles and glass Yeah. That fell and hit the floor. And so probably some destruction of property, but I don't see any structural. And and that that's what you're seeing in downtown, not really structural damage.
No structural. It's very calm. The sun is shining. It's a beautiful day. Everybody is going about their business, so I think we dodged a bullet.
Oh, that's good to hear. And you're not hearing of any, gas line breaches or hearing about any fires or anything like that?
We had a transformer blow just a couple houses down from us, and power was out for just a little bit, but it's back on. So everybody seems to be, you know, just picking up the pieces and moving on with their day.
Well, that's certainly good news there that there was minimal damage. Caroline, as you very well know, you're no stranger to feeling earthquakes. It seems that there were several, sizable ones there in Humboldt County over the last, few years in 2020, 1, in 2022. But walk us through what you felt, as the earthquake rolled in.
Well, you know, you you live in California. You get sort of used to that first split second saying, okay. Is this something I should be worried about? And then you knew. It hit, and you're like, get outside.
So I ran outside, and it always amazes me when you see your car jumping about.
So you
do
The, you know, the car was jumping about, and we actually have a granddaughter at a preschool a couple maybe about a block away. So we immediately started running to the children's center where all the kids were outside underneath the play structure, and the teacher was calming these toddlers down and singing the ABC song and, did a terrific job. And so we are very lucky.
Fantastic. Caroline, on the right, we are now showing video that we got from Valley Grocery. That is a grocery store in Ferndale. I'm sure you're familiar with it. And what I'm seeing is a lot of boxes that have fallen off the shelves and, are littering the aisles, so to speak.
But, again, I'm not seeing any destruction damage to the building itself or There's no
structural damage, and it's kind of the the there's a wine meter as far as bottles falling off shelves. And when I walked in, the clerk said we didn't lose hardly any wine.
So That's always a relief.
Yeah. The the unofficial, magnitude scale there in in Ferndale.
The mac and cheese.
Exactly. Exactly. Obviously, we're we're making the light of sit of the situation because we've heard so far, no reports of serious structural damage and no reports of injuries or deaths, which is the really important thing that we're always concerned about. And it sounds like, you know, even the small children are are faring, while they're, in Ferndale. Caroline, we've also been showing images, of folks along the coastline, trying to catch the view, trying to catch a last minute wave.
What would your advice be to the folks there who are perhaps not heeding the same advice as you are?
Well, we live 5 miles from the Pacific Ocean, and it's called the Lost Coast for a reason. It's not somewhere that you go surf or you go in the water. It's very rugged. So, we're pretty, self reliant people up here, so we know what to do. And I I doubt here in Ferndale, there are people out at the beach.
So but I don't know that. I'm not out there, but we we we're used to earthquakes.
Yes. As where are we. But here on our coastline, we are seeing some folks in the ocean even now. But, Caroline, we thank you so much. Oh, by the way, there are I don't know if those were the doors that you were referring to earlier, but we have new footage in of some doors from a restaurant or bar that looks like, they've fallen off and, got unhinged.
But, other than that, given that it was a 7 0, still, seeing minimal, if you will, damage that's expected in the range of this kind of an earthquake. Caroline Titus, thank you so much. Thank you. Alright. In the meantime, if you're just joining us, we had a 7 0 earthquake about an hour ago off the coast of Humboldt County, and we wanna show you some of the closures in the Bay Area as a result, some of the, you know, systems that have been affected as a result of this earthquake.
So we're not sure if we can pull that up right now, but we will just tell you what we know. We know that the Caltrain system is back and running after an earlier closure. We do understand that BART still has delays. Transbay tube closed immediately in the aftermath, and some other directions on the red line were delayed or paused. And right now, we are hearing about slow resumption, but definitely expect delays.
We're looking at this footage. I wanna find out what's going on on the left there because on the left side of your screen okay. Sky 7 is over San Mateo County, and we are not sure if that's an official boat, authorities, coast guard, or if it's a personal leisure, recreational boat. But, certainly, anyone who doesn't out need to be out on the water right now in the ocean should not be
Yeah.
Because we're still under that active tsunami warning. And, 12:10 is supposed to be the 10th time it arrives here.
Exactly. Yeah. And you can see that those boats are currently on full throttle, I imagine, trying to get back to the coast before, more intense waves that could be triggered from a tsunami, could potentially roll in in the next 15 minutes or so, as Kristen mentioned, 12:10, the really important time that we're watching closely here. Sky 7 is doing its thing. It's trying to find us the best pictures to show you, So bear with us as we get a better picture there on the right hand side of the screen, though.
We are looking from our Exploratorium camera, where we see just very small waves rolling in across the bay. We do wanna mention that the Exploratorium itself, though, is currently closed right now.
On the other side of San Francisco is Ocean Beach, and we wanna check-in with our reporter, ABC 7 news reporter, Anser Hassan, who is there now. We understand the great highway is closed there. Right, Anser?
Yeah. That's right, guys. We just got here a few minutes ago. You can see the waves behind me coming looking pretty strong. We're hearing from seismologists.
As you mentioned, the waves related to the tsunami should hit this coast around 12:10. Now police are going through the beach warning people to get out. We spoke to doctor Lucy Jones, a seismologist with Caltech. She's actually somewhat optimistic. She says the plates hit in a horizontal movement, which suggests that that that would have a smaller impact on the waves and that the tsunami waves may not be that big.
Tsunami, as you all know, is a series of waves, and they expect those waves to come in over a period of several hours. Now the San Francisco Fire Department, on the other hand, is warning anybody along the coast to move in about 1 mile or to get above sea level excuse me, a a 100 feet above sea level. As you mentioned, the roads are closed, along the area, and they're also asking people to evacuate. That is the very latest out here. We'll keep an eye on the tsunami waves as they come in and report back with what we get.
Reporting live, Anser Hasid, ABC 7 News.
Okay. Anser, thank you so much. Obviously, we'll be watching very closely what happens there along, the Pacific coastline, as more information rolls in and as we get closer to that forecasted time of when we could see some of those tsunami like waves around 12:10 right now. But we are showing this on your screen. We'll read it along with you.
This is an immediate evacuation notice in place for areas of Fremont west of interstate 880. Obviously, all of this associated with that tsunami warning that is a direct impact or result of that strong, powerful 7.0 magnitude earthquake that was felt off the coast of Humboldt County in Northern California. The Fremont police chief has issued an immediate evacuation for the people living and working in the areas of Fremont west of 880 in Fremont due to the tsunami warning. It's expected to reach SF Bay at approximately 12:10. They're also asking people, please do not call 911.
If it is not an absolute emergency, just leave right away and head south into the east to try to get folks, deeper inland.
Yeah. So we're seeing these types of messages from municipalities all around the bay. Because just because you're not on the ocean, on the coast, does not mean you won't be affected around the bay. That water level will also rise. San Francisco mayor Linden Breed also posted a message on x.
She talked about operating their emergency operating center in relation to the tsunami, and here's the warning that I think applies to all cities around the bay. And her warning is please move off the coast in at least 1 block inland. 1 block inland. I've also seen messages from Berkeley asking people to stay away from the water. And, the message, in fact, from Berkeley is saying, stay, off West Frontage Road, the Berkeley Waterfront, Tom Bates Field, I 80 Freeway, Aquatic Park, and all that would be considered tsunami zone.
Okay. I think we wanna get into, bringing Drew Tuma because we're just seeing, Drew, it looks like the tsunami warning is canceled. Is that right?
Yeah. I do wanna get you. This just came in, within the last 60 seconds or so, from the National Tsunami Warning Center. The tsunami warning is canceled for all areas along the coast in California and Oregon. They have been looking at the buoys.
They have observed no increase in wave heights around those buoys. So they do anticipate that we will not see any sort of tsunami along our coastline.
Evacuations underway right now as a tsunami warning is in effect for parts of Oregon and Northern California after a 7 0 earthquake. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Kiara Phillips. We do begin with breaking news. The US geological survey saying the earthquake hit just off the coast of Humboldt County in Northern California around 11 AM local time.
Our Alex Stone joins me now with more. We've been listening, to, the coverage out of San Francisco, our ABC affiliate, Alex KGO. What more do you know, at this hour as you're covering things from LA?
Well, Kira, a bit more breaking news. We understand the tsunami warning was canceled, just a moment ago. That's all the way from the Oregon border down to the Bay Area where there had been concern that it was gonna come ashore. We have been waiting. We've been watching for anything.
Nothing has been seen. No reports that we've gotten. We don't know of any major damage from the earthquake itself, the 7 0. But now it was waiting for that tsunami and the potential that, a wall of water, a big wave would come ashore, and it looks like that now is not gonna go on. The USGS has just canceled that, as we are getting the the details right now, and so far, nothing has been seen coming ashore.
Okay. So this is good news. Tsunami warning has been canceled. So I guess our officials still wanting folks to stay inside? Because there was a huge concern.
Oh, it looks like we're bringing some live pictures right now trying to keep looks like a lot of looky loos heading to the coast. No surprise, Alex. Didn't wanna see what's going on. We even saw surfers out there in the waves. Not surprised by that as well, growing up in California.
You and I both know, can't stop a surfer even when there's a threat of a tsunami. But in all seriousness, what does this mean for people living along, the coast there in Northern California?
Yeah. You know, it's a good question. In those pictures right there, right along the the beach, they've been telling people to to stay away from the the water. But as you mentioned, people have been going there anyway. Surfers have been going.
They've been in the water. And now we would assume that they're gonna say that that this is the all clear, that people don't need to to worry about a tsunami coming in. The the time had already gone by in much of Northern California, the Bay Area. The concern was gonna be at about 9 minutes from right now. So the the concern time was ending in much of the state, but, this now being the the all clear coming in.
Alright. Well, that's good news. Alex Stone, thank you so much. Definitely takes this story down a notch, but we still wanna bring in the assistant coordinator William Barnhart from the United States geological survey earthquake hazards program. Okay.
We don't have a tsunami warning, anymore. That's good news. What more can you tell us, at this moment?
Yeah. The, as
you all have been talking about, there was a, magnitude 7 earthquake about 10:45 local time today off the coast of California. Very luckily and encouragingly, we've seen that there was a tsunami warning that was issued that has since been retracted. Tsunamis are scary. It's good to see that there were people taking protective action to seek higher ground, and people should still continue to listen to local officials, But NOAA has removed that tsunami warning that's consistent with the type of earthquake that occurred offshore. So we're not necessarily surprised to see that there was no tsunami.
But, again, really encouraging to see that that didn't happen. This was a decent sized earthquake. A lot of people felt this. People who get earthquake early warnings throughout California and Oregon, likely received the warnings for this earthquake. And there will continue to be earthquakes after this that people might feel.
We've already seen about a dozen or so aftershocks. None have been particularly large, but there might be a few aftershocks that people feel and can cause more shaking that result from this earthquake. But, again
Yeah.
As I think was previously mentioned, a little bit of a dodged bullet here because there's no tsunami and the earthquake was far enough offshore that most of that strong shaking was underwater.
And as you mentioned and
I grew up
in Southern California, Northern California as well. So, something like this is is doesn't necessarily surprise me, but we also know, William, there can be surprises. Well, this is no surprise seeing the surfers out in the water. Right? This is there's always the risk takers even though they're told not to do this and still head out there because they wanna catch a good wave.
But when talking about subsequent earthquakes, you know, what else are you tracking here? What are your biggest concerns? Even though we seem to have dodged a bullet like you said, what are you still concerned about and still tracking at this hour?
So we will continue to locate earthquakes that the, the aftershocks that occur from this earthquake were always concerned that some of those aftershocks could be strong and people could feel those. There's always a very small chance that there could be a a larger earthquake. That's unlikely, but it is possible. So it's important for people to know what to do if there is an earthquake and they feel an earthquake, which is that they should drop, cover, and hold on. Get under a table, hold on to the legs, and protect yourself from the shaking.
If you're near the coastlines, once the shaking has stopped, go to higher ground in case there is a tsunami, and always listen to the local officials, when a tsunami warning or advisory is issued.
William Barnhart, appreciate you, zooming in.
Thank you.
In Angie you bet. Let's bring in Angie Lux now, project scientist for earthquake early warning at the Berkeley Seismology Lab. So, Angie, this was a massive earthquake, no doubt. What's your biggest concern right now, talking about aftershocks? And, I mean, William seems to think we've dodged a bullet here, but, clearly, we have to be on guard for a period of time.
Sure. Absolutely. This was a pretty moderate earthquake. Magnitude 7.0 is a large earthquake. We did see some strong shaking onshore.
As he mentioned, we are not expecting a sizable tsunami, so that's great news. With this particular earthquake, we would expect some aftershocks. It's 927, and so we would definitely expect some aftershocks in the coming days. There's always a small possibility that there could be a larger earthquake that happens after this 1, but, of course, we don't know. We have no way of estimating or predicting that the a larger earthquake will happen afterwards.
But, again, we know that there will be aftershock. So if people haven't done so already, they should definitely download the MySheik earthquake earthquake early warning app so so that they can receive warnings of any future earthquakes that are happening.
Alright. So, just from an educational perspective, the fact that you are there at the Berkeley Seismology Lab, with regard to what happened today, what we're still monitoring, what will it be like, in in the lab now? You know, when something like this happens, has it get you guys into study mode?
It was definitely very interesting this morning because we had a lot of, people's phones and alerts going off. And, the for the the split second when it first happened, there's this wonder that they just the other guys testing the system, you know, are they just playing with the alert sound? But, no. In fact, then my phone goes off for Mule about the warning, that the earthquake had happened. And so, yeah, it's definitely we wanted to see how well the earthquake early warning system did.
It did fantastically. We estimated the maximum of magnitude of 926.9. It was a 927 earthquake, so that's absolutely fantastic. All of the system worked as it should. We got the alert out to people in Northern California and in Oregon.
So, again, our earthquake early warning system so from a research perspective and our projects perspective, everything worked really well with the earthquake early warning system. So that was great.
Right. So that's 2 good points to make. Dodging a bullet and then our early warning system, worked. Angie Locks, appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Well, 1 of the other big stories we've been following today is the task force. It's investigated the has been investigating, rather, the attempted assassinations of president-elect Donald Trump. It held the final hearing today with acting secret service director Ronald Roe, and members of the task forward actually grilled him with a lot of questions about the secret service's current and past operations. And to ensure that an incident like the 1 in Butler, Pennsylvania would never happen again. Democratic congressman Jason Crow is the ranking member of the house task force.
He joins me once again. Welcome back. I know it's pretty busy there on the hill today. There's a lot going on, congressman. But, be before we just get your, take on on the investigation and and how today went, we've gotta ask you about this fiery exchange.
It went a bit off the rails today during the hearing when Roe and congressman Pat Fallon got into it. We just wanna take a listen, and I'd love to kinda get your feedback on what went down.
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Congressman, I guess, first, I want your reaction, when that went down. What were your thoughts? And then, of course, I bet I'm sure you were disappointed that it took away from the true point of today's hearing. But, please, just your thoughts on what happened today.
Well, it didn't take away from the point of the hearing. It was 2 minutes of a 2 hour hearing, and it doesn't tell the story of the actual hearing. You know, there were 13 members of congress who have done 5 months of really hard investigative work that have that have told a a thorough and comprehensive story of the security failings at Butler, and they've come to the hearing and to that work, with, with clear eyed, precision. And and you saw that during the rest of the hearing today. So it's not really worth spending more time on, a 2 minute exchange.
The story of this hearing was 1 of bipartisanship, and us fulfilling our obligations that we were given by congress to tell the story of the the security failings.
Point made. The task force has been investigating, these 2 attempts on Trump's life for months now. What have you been able to find since we last talked?
Well, we've reviewed tens of thousands of pages of documents, conducted over 45 transcribed interviews of law enforcement agents at all levels of government. We've done classified briefings. We've done open hearings, closed hearings. We have done a lot of work. We've had incredible staff, and the result of that is a thorough comprehensive accounting of the security failure failures at Butler, Pennsylvania.
Our recommendations for what we think needs to happen to fix it, and we we have done our our job. And even more than that, even more than doing the investigation, we have done it in a bipartisan way. So America should actually know that Republicans and Democrats came together over the last 5 months in this task force. We rolled up our sleeves. We did the work.
And in that hearing today, you couldn't have been able to tell who was a Democrat and who was a Republican, and, frankly, we need more of that.
I don't think anybody would argue with that point, congressman. During the hearing, Roe did say that the Secret Service is taking accountability for the members who are at fault here for the Butler assassination attempt. Is that enough for you and your task force right now?
Well, we're gonna see. You know, time will tell. This is this is a story that is not yet completely written. I have to say that acting director Roe has been completely transparent. They have given us all the information we have asked for over the the last 5 months.
They've been very cooperative, and he has shown accountability. He has shown an acceptance of responsibility. You know, he was the deputy director, not the director, at the time of the events, that we investigated. He has stepped up, and and he has has articulated a clear path to reform. But we we shall see.
You know, the mandate of our task force ends in a couple of weeks. We're gonna go into the next congress. The jurisdiction over these issues and the actual reform to come is gonna fall under different committees. So I'll be involved, and I'm gonna continue to push for that reform with the members of the task force, but we can't keep our take our eyes off the ball here.
Right. And even Roe announced, you know, that secret service acknowledges that the US is living in a heightened threat environment, and making a lot of changes. Are you confident that these changes will be enough? And do you think anything else needs to be done at this juncture?
Well, I'm a I'm a member of the house of representatives, so my job is not to be confident. It's actually to be skeptical. You know, my oversight job is to to just not take at face value what people tell me they're gonna do. It's to press, to ask tough questions, and to make sure that government works for the American people, and that it delivers the results that taxpayers expected to deliver. That is my job.
I take it very seriously. So, no, I'm not gonna take anyone's word for it. I'm gonna continue to press. I'm gonna ask tough questions. And if anybody thinks that, you know, I'm gonna stop doing that or I'm gonna take an answer in a hearing at face value, then they're so they're they're sorely mistaken.
I I I, we we are I made this point earlier today. We are the article 1 branch of the constitution. That's the first branch, the the founders put us first for a reason, and I take that very seriously.
You're describing our job, asking tough questions and getting down to the truth. Congressman Jason Crow, appreciate your time again today.
Thank you.
Alright. Another big story that we've been following in the past 24 hours is, should transgender kids be able to get hormones and surgery? That is the question before the nation's highest court. Supreme court justices heard arguments on whether states like Tennessee can ban gender affirming care for minors. It's a debate that showed the deep divide in the Supreme Court.
The 20 plus states on the other side put forth very forceful arguments against allowing, these medical treatments for minors. So it seems to me that we looked at the constitution, and the constitution doesn't take sides on how to resolve that medical and policy debate. The constitution's neutral on the question. At least that's 1 way to look at it. I wanna get your reaction to that.
You know, if the constitution doesn't take sides, if they're strong, forceful, scientific, policy arguments on both sides in a situation like this, why isn't it best to leave it to the democratic process?
The whole thing is imbued with sex. I mean, it's based on sex. You might have reasons for thinking that it's an appropriate regulation, and those reasons should be tested and, respect given to them. But it's a dodge to say that this is not based on sex. It's based on medical purpose when the medical purpose is utterly and entirely about sex.
It's been quite an entering discussion, especially for, the man named defendant in the case, Tennessee attorney general Jonathan Scarmetti, who argues that his state's law is just about protecting our kids. Jonathan, glad you're with us. Appreciate it.
Thanks for having me, Kara.
So you presented precedent from Europe where Britain and Sweden have restricted the use of gender affirming care for minors due to health concerns. Yet here in the United States, major medical associations have endorsed this treatment. So why should the court look to Europe as a guide on this versus our own medical experts?
Well, if this was just a matter of Tennessee and the other red states making a decision, it would be easy to write it off as a culture war issue. But this is an evidence driven decision, and the countries in Europe started out on the other side. They pioneered the use of these treatments for kids. They were very enthusiastic about making them available. And over time, they looked at the evidence.
They realized that the risks far outweigh the benefits here, and they started severely restricting the availability of these treatments for kids. Every systematic review of the evidence has shown little to no benefits for kids. And, of course, the downside is potential lifelong loss of fertility, loss of sexual function, a host of medical complications. So there are serious, serious risks here. So the European countries and Tennessee's legislature both looked at the evidence and made a determination that kids should not be given ready access to these treatments.
We have a divorce between the medical consensus and the medical evidence, which appears to be the result of, very effective ideological activism.
There was a huge well, speaking of activism, there was a huge crowd of worried parents outside the supreme court yesterday. What do you say to those parents who are extremely concerned about their children's mental health without this type of care?
Well, the the number 1 thing that I think parents need to hear because it was injected into the conversation over the course of the last few years, is that the the biggest admission in this case is that suicide is not affected by whether someone gets these treatments or not. So for a long time, the story was if these kids don't get, gender affirming care, it's called, if they don't get these hormone treatments, then they're going to kill themselves. Justice Alito locked down, an admission that, no. Actually, the research shows this does not affect the suicide rate, which is important. And then the other thing is the overwhelming majority of kids who experience gender dysphoria in adolescence will outgrow it.
The research shows us that this is, for many children, a passing thing, and the best answer for them is time unless they're put on these medications, in which case they don't outgrow it. Now gender dysphoria is a real problem. It is a serious problem. It is a hard thing to live with, but that doesn't mean that we throw the evidence out the window. The treatments that we're talking about have immense repercussions for kids, and we've seen the number of children receiving these treatments skyrocket for reasons that have yet to be explained.
So the the legislature in Tennessee acted on the basis of looking at the evidence and a growing sense of concern about the number of kids affected.
You know, this case also featured a historic first. Your opposing counsel, Chase, Strangio, was the first ever transgender lawyer to argue a case before the Supreme Court. This case was obviously very personal to him. He said this kind of care saved his life. Did you 2 have a chance to speak?
Did his presence there and his personal story impact you in any way?
We did have a chance to speak. In the lawyers lounge at the Supreme Court, they have the lawyers for both sides, and you spend a little time there before the case starts. And we we made small talk, you know, not a huge substantive interaction. You know, it's clear that this is a a passion project that matters a great deal, to a lot of people on the other side. They they care very much about this.
But at the end of the day, you know, anecdotes and emotional commitments, I don't think are a good substitute for the evidence. And in this case, the evidence points squarely in the direction, of saying that the risks are significant, the benefits are are minimal to none, and this is gonna have a really adverse impact on a lot of kids' lives if we're not able to effectively regulate.
Tennessee attorney general Jonathan Scarmetti, appreciate your time today.
Thank you.
Straight ahead, new details about that mysterious death of whistleblower Karen Silkwood next.
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Glad you're streaming with us. We are learning new details about the mysterious death of whistleblower Karen Silkwood. The young mother was killed in a car crash in 1974 while she was driving to meet a New York Times reporter. Erin Koturski is here with more details on the new audio tapes that could help in the investigation. Erin, just give us a little context here.
Remind us of the case.
It's really a remarkable case from 50 years ago, Kira. Karen Silkwood, in some ways, is the original whistleblower, at least in the energy industry. She was on her way back in November 1974 to meet a New York Times reporter to raise concerns about her nuclear fuel plant that had to process uranium and plutonium. She was concerned about safety. She she was concerned about workmanship, and she was bringing documents supposedly to the New York Times to expose what had been going on in the Kerr McGee plant.
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A mile from the plant, she was killed. The mystery, what caused the crash?
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Is there a smoking gun in this case that exists somewhere?
There's always a smoking gun somewhere. We just haven't found it yet.
So, Aaron, what do we know about these new audio recordings?
They were uncovered in a warehouse, stacked in with boxes, and it's almost like a needle in a haystack. And they're from an original investigator who says he was told that there were off duty Oklahoma law enforcement officers assigned to surveil Karen Silkwood, including on the night that she died. So it raises a lot of questions as to whether others may have been involved, or truly whether she just fell asleep at the wheel, which many investigators even to this day tend to doubt.
So I know you're taking a deep dive on this new episode of Impact by Nightline. What stood out to you the most as you were working on this case?
It is such a nagging mystery that's persisted for 50 years, and a couple of things stand out, Kiara. 1 is how many people in Oklahoma still don't wanna talk about it and and how resistant anyone is to to sort of opening this wound. I was also struck because we presented some of the findings, including the audio recordings, the new physical evidence, the the accident recreation by an expert, and we presented all those findings to Karen Silkwood's surviving son. And he says, Kira, that when he thinks back you know, she was only 28. He was just a a kid when his mother was killed.
When he looks at thinks about his mother, he doesn't see her face. He sees the face of Meryl Streep, who played her in the movie. And and and just how haunting it is to have a son who doesn't remember his mother, because it may turn out she died under rather nefarious circumstances.
Wow. Powerful. Erin, thank you. And for more on the ABC News investigation, you can watch the latest episode Thank
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Well, a major tsunami warning for large swaths of Oregon and Northern California have now been canceled. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Kiara Phillips. That warning was issued earlier today after the US Geological survey said a major 7 0 earthquake hit just off the coast of Humboldt County in Northern California. And although that warning has now been canceled, forecasters are still expecting aftershocks and large dangerous waves across the region.
Our Alex Stone joins me now for more. Alright. So the warning has been canceled. What's the situation like this hour, Alex?
Yeah. I think everybody here is breathing a little bit easier now, kind of a sigh of not wondering what was coming. This was all about wondering that that there was the earthquake, that 7 0. We knew pretty quickly that there was no major damage from that. We haven't gotten any reports, of anything, but some light swinging and and some minor things falling off of shelves.
But it was waiting for the tsunami, which Californians do from time to time waiting for what was gonna come ashore that from the USGS, we had predicted times that they thought that it would arrive, and it was waiting for that time. It was 11:10 in the morning, 11:20, 11:25, different areas of California. San Francisco, 12:10. All of those have gone by now, and, the the warning is down. We know that there is not gonna be a major tsunami, and so that part of it is now over.
So, Alex, there will be no tsunami, but there will still be some large waves and potential aftershocks. What can people there expect?
Yeah. That is gonna be the concern. The aftershocks now, likely, they will be smaller than that 7 0, but there is always a small chance that there will be something bigger that this was a 4 shock. You can imagine something bigger than a 7 0, what that would be like. So there's always that warning for Californians of just be ready.
There could be some sizable aftershocks. 1 of the the aftershocks today was on land. That 1 was, around a 5 0. I think they downgraded it after that. But but it could be sizable enough where it could do some damage and scare people and and be dangerous.
So the the aftershocks are gonna be the part of it now. If they were to be big enough and be off the coast, then there would be another tsunami concern, but for now, this 1 is over.
So what are officials telling people now about how to stay safe in the area, Alex?
Mainly just be careful if they are in far Northern California and the Eureka area and and areas around Eureka that were close to the epicenter to look for roads that may have cracks in them, to look for anything in their their homes, anything that's been knocked over and to be ready for aftershocks. California's emergency operations center has been set up. Governor Gavin Newsom, who's down on the border today, saying he activated that while the tsunami warning was in place, not knowing what was gonna go on there. So there is a command center in Sacramento set up. It is operating, watching what's going on.
There have been a number of aftershocks, and now we we wait and see where it goes from here if there are any more.
Alex Stone, appreciate you. Thank you.
You got it. Thanks, Kira.
Wanna bring in the assistant coordinator, William Barnhart, from the United States geological survey earthquake hazards program. Okay. We don't have a tsunami warning, anymore. That's good news. What more can you tell us, at this moment?
Hi. Yeah. The, as you
all have been talking about, there was a, magnitude 7 earthquake about 10:45 local time today off the coast of California. Very luckily and encouragingly, we've seen that there was a tsunami warning that was issued that has since been retracted. Tsunamis are scary. It's good to see that there were people taking protective action to seek higher ground, and people should still continue to listen to local officials, but NOAA has removed that tsunami warning That's consistent with the type of earthquake that occurred offshore. So we're not necessarily surprised to see that there was no tsunami, but, again, really encouraging to see that that didn't happen.
This was a decent sized earthquake. A lot of people felt this. People who get earthquake early warnings throughout California and Oregon, likely received warnings for this earthquake, and there will continue to be earthquakes after this that people might feel. We've already seen about a dozen or so aftershocks. None have been particularly large, but there might be a few aftershocks that people feel and can cause more shaking that result from this earthquake.
But, again
Yeah.
As I think was previously mentioned, a little bit of a dodged bullet here because there's no tsunami and the earthquake was far enough offshore that most of that strong shaking was underwater.
And as you mentioned and I grew up in Southern California, Northern California as well. So, something like this is is doesn't necessarily surprise me, but we also know, William, there can be surprises. Well, this is no surprise seeing the surfers out in the water. Right? This is there's always the risk takers even though they're told not to do this and still head out there because they wanna catch a good wave.
But when talking about subsequent earthquakes, you know, what else are you tracking here? What are your biggest concerns? Even though we seem to have dodged a bullet like you said, what are you still concerned about and still tracking at this hour?
So we will continue to locate earthquakes that the, the aftershocks that occur from this earthquake. We're always concerned that some of those aftershocks could be strong and people could feel those. There's always a very small chance that there could be a a larger earthquake. That's unlikely, but it is possible. So it's important for people to know what to do if there is an earthquake and they feel an earthquake, which is that they should drop, cover, and hold on.
Get under a table, hold on to the legs, and protect yourself from the shaking. If you're near the coastlines, once the shaking has stopped, go to higher ground in case there is a tsunami, and always listen to the local officials, when a tsunami warning or advisory is issued.
William Barnhart, appreciate you, zooming in.
Thank you.
Bring in Angie you bet. Let's bring in Angie Lux now, project scientist for earthquake early warning at the Berkeley Seismology Lab. So, Angie, this was a massive earthquake, no doubt. What's your biggest concern right now, talking about aftershocks? And, I mean, William seems to think we've dodged a bullet here, but, clearly, we have to be on guard for a period of time.
Sure. Absolutely. This was a pretty moderate earthquake. Magnitude 7.0 is a large earthquake. We did see some strong shaking onshore.
As he mentioned, we are not expecting a sizable tsunami, and so that's great news. With this particular earthquake, we would expect some aftershocks. It's 927. And so we would definitely expect some aftershocks in the coming days. There's always a small possibility that there could be a larger earthquake that happens after this 1.
But, of course, we don't know. We have no way of estimating or predicting that the a larger earthquake will happen afterwards. But, again, we know that there will be aftershock. So if people haven't done so already, they should definitely download the My Sheik earthquake earthquake early warning app so that they can receive warnings of any future earthquakes that are happening.
Alright. So, just from an educational perspective, the fact that you are there at the Berkeley Seismology Lab, with regard to what happened today, what we're still monitoring, what will it be like, in in the lab now? You know, when something like this happens, has it get you guys into study mode?
It was definitely very interesting this morning because we had a lot of, people's phones and alerts going off and the the for the the split second when it first happened, there's this wonder that they just the other guys testing the system. You know? Are they just playing with the alert sound? But no. In fact, then my phone goes off the mule about the warning, that the earthquake had happened.
And so, yeah, it's definitely, we wanted to see how well the earthquake early warning system did. It did fantastically. We estimated the maximum magnitude of 926.9. It was a 927 earthquake, so that's absolutely fantastic. All of the system worked as it should.
We got the alert out to people in Northern California and Oregon. So, again, our earthquake early warning system so from a research perspective and a project's perspective, everything worked really well with the earthquake early warning system, so that was great.
Right. So that's 2 good points to make, dodging a bullet and then our early warning system, worked. Angie Locks, appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Well, the 1 of the other big stories we've been following today is the task force. It's investigated the has been investigating rather the attempted assassinations of president-elect Donald Trump. It held the final hearing today with acting secret service director Ronald Roe, and members of the task forward actually grilled him with a lot of questions about the secret service's current and past operations and to ensure that an incident like the 1 in Butler, Pennsylvania would never happen again. Democratic congressman Jason Crow is the ranking member of the house task force. He joins me once again.
Welcome back. I know it's pretty busy there on the hill today. There's a lot going on, congressman. But, be before we just get your, take on on the investigation and and how today went, we've gotta ask you about this fiery exchange. It went a bit off the rails today during the hearing when Roe and congressman Pat Fallon got into it.
We just wanna take a listen, and I'd love to kinda get your feedback on what went down.
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Well, it
didn't take away from the point of the hearing. It was 2 minutes of a 2 hour hearing, and it doesn't tell the story of the actual hearing. You know, there were 13 members of congress who have done 5 months of really hard investigative work that have that have told a a thorough and comprehensive story of the security failings at Butler, and they've come to the hearing and to that work, with, with clear eyed, precision. And and and you saw that during the rest of the hearing today, so it's not really worth spending more time on, a 2 minute exchange. The story of this hearing was 1 of bipartisanship, and us fulfilling our obligations that we were given by congress to tell the story of the the security feelings.
Point made. The task force has been investigating, these 2 attempts on Trump's life for months now. What have you been able to find since we last talked?
Well, we've reviewed tens of thousands of pages of documents, conducted over 45 transcribed interviews of law enforcement agents at all levels of government. We've done classified briefings. We've done open hearings, closed hearings. We have done a lot of work. We've had incredible staff, and the result of that is a thorough comprehensive accounting of the security failure failures at Butler, Pennsylvania.
Our recommendations for what we think needs to happen to fix it, and we we have done our our job. And even more than that, even more than doing the investigation, we have done it in a bipartisan way. So America should actually know that that Republicans and Democrats came together over the last 5 months in this task force. We rolled up our sleeves. We did the work.
In in that hearing today, you couldn't have been able to tell who was a Democrat and who was a Republican. And, frankly, we need more of that.
I don't think anybody would argue with that point, congressman. During the hearing, Roe did say that the secret service is taking accountability for the members who are at fault here for the Butler assassination attempt. Is that enough for you and your task force right now?
Well, we're gonna see. You know, time will tell. This is this is a story that is not yet completely written. I have to say that acting director Roe has been completely transparent. They have given us all the information we have asked for over the the last 5 months.
They've been very cooperative, and he has shown accountability. He has shown an acceptance of responsibility. You know, he was the deputy director, not the director, at the time of the events, that we investigated. He has stepped up, and and he has has articulated a clear path to reform. But we we shall see.
You know, the mandate of our task force ends in a couple of weeks. We're gonna go into the next congress. The jurisdiction over these issues and the actual reform to come is gonna fall under different committees. So I'll be involved, and I'm gonna continue to push for that reform with the members of the task force, but we can't keep our take our eyes off the ball here.
Right. And even Roe announced, you know, that secret service acknowledges that the US is living in a heightened threat environment, and making a lot of changes. Are you confident that these changes will be enough? And do you think anything else needs to be done at this juncture?
Well, I'm a I'm a member the house of representatives, so my job is not to be confident. It's actually to be skeptical. You know, my oversight job is to to just not take at face value what people tell me they're gonna do. It's to press, to ask tough questions, and to make sure that government works for the American people, and that it delivers the results that taxpayers expected to deliver. That is my job.
I take it very seriously. So, no, I'm not gonna take anyone's word for it. I'm gonna continue to press. I'm gonna ask tough questions. And if anybody thinks that, you know, I'm gonna stop doing that or I'm gonna take an answer in a hearing at face value, then they're so they're they're sorely mistaken.
I I I, we we are I made this point earlier today. We are the article 1 branch of the constitution. That's the first branch. The the founders put us first for a reason, and I take that very seriously.
You're describing our job, asking tough questions, and getting down to the truth. Congressman Jason Crow, appreciate your time again today.
Thank you.
Alright. Another big story that we've been following in the past 24 hours is should transgender kids be able to get hormones and surgery? That is the question before the nation's highest court. Supreme court justices heard arguments on whether states like Tennessee can ban gender affirming care for minors. It's a debate that showed the deep divide in the supreme court.
The 20 plus states on the other side put forth very forceful arguments against allowing, these medical treatments for minors. So it seems to me that we looked at the constitution, and the constitution doesn't take sides on how to resolve that medical and policy debate. The constitution's neutral on the question. At least that's 1 way to look at it. I wanna get your reaction to that.
You know, if the constitution doesn't take sides, if they're strong, forceful, scientific, policy arguments on both sides in a situation like this, why isn't it best to leave it to the democratic process?
The whole thing is imbued with sex. I mean, it's based on sex. You might have reasons for thinking that it's an appropriate regulation, and those reasons should be tested and, respect given to them. But it's a dodge to say that this is not based on sex. It's based on medical purpose when the medical purpose is utterly and entirely about sex.
It's
been quite an interesting discussion, especially for, the man named defendant in the case, Tennessee attorney general Jonathan Scarmetti, who argues that his state's law is just about protecting our kids. Jonathan, glad you're with us. Appreciate it.
Thanks for having me, Kara.
So you presented precedent from Europe where Britain and Sweden have restricted the use of gender affirming care for minors due to health concerns. Yet here in the United States, major medical associations have endorsed this treatment. So why should the court look to Europe as a guide on this versus our own medical experts?
Well, if this was just a matter of Tennessee and the other red states making a decision, it would be easy to write it off as a culture war issue. But this is an evidence driven decision, and the countries in Europe started out on the other side. They pioneered the use of these treatments for kids. They were very enthusiastic about making them available. And over time, they looked at the evidence.
They realized that the risks far outweigh the benefits here, and they started severely restricting the availability of these treatments for kids. Every systematic review of the evidence has shown little to no benefits for kids, and, of course, the downside is potential lifelong loss of fertility, loss of sexual function, a host of medical complications. So there are serious, serious risks here. So the European countries and Tennessee's legislature both looked at the evidence and made a determination that kids should not be given ready access to these treatments. We have a divorce between the medical consensus and the medical evidence, which appears to be the result of, very effective ideological activism.
There was a huge well, speaking of activism, there was a huge crowd of worried parents outside the supreme court yesterday. What do you say to those parents who are extremely concerned about their children's mental health without this type of care?
Well, the the number 1 thing that I think parents need to hear because it was injected into the conversation over the course of the last few years, is that the the biggest admission in this case is that suicide is not affected by whether someone gets these treatments or not. So for a long time, the story was if these kids don't get, gender affirming care, it's called, if they don't get these hormone treatments, then they're going to kill themselves. Justice Alito locked down, in admission that, no. Actually, the research shows this does not affect the suicide rate, which is important. And then the other thing is the overwhelming majority of kids who experience gender dysphoria in adolescence will outgrow it.
The research shows us that this is for many children a passing thing, and the best answer for them is time unless they're put on these medications, in which case they don't outgrow it. Now gender dysphoria is a real problem. It is a serious problem. It is a hard thing to live with, but that doesn't mean that we throw the evidence out the window. The treatments that we're talking about have immense repercussions for kids, and we've seen the number of children receiving these treatments skyrocket for reasons that have yet to be explained.
So the the legislature in Tennessee acted on the basis of looking at the evidence and a growing sense of concern about the number of kids affected.
You know, this case also featured a historic first. Your opposing counsel, Chase, Strangio, was the first ever transgender lawyer to argue a case before the Supreme Court. This case was obviously very personal to him. He said this kind of care saved his life. Did you 2 have a chance to speak?
Did his presence there and his personal story impact you in any way?
We did have a chance to speak. In the lawyers lounge at the Supreme Court, they have the lawyers for both sides, and you spend a little time there before the case starts. And we we made small talk, you know, not a huge substantive interaction. You know, it's clear that this is a a passion project that matters a great deal, to a lot of people on the other side. They they care very much about this.
But at the end of the day, you know, anecdotes and emotional commitments, I don't think are a good substitute for the evidence. And in this case, the evidence points squarely in the direction, of saying that the risks are significant, the benefits are are minimal to none, and this is gonna have a really adverse impact on a lot of kids' lives if we're not able to effectively regulate.
Tennessee attorney general Jonathan Scarmetti, appreciate your time today.
Thank you.
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Glad you're streaming with us. We are learning new details about the mysterious death of whistleblower Karen Silkwood. The young mother was killed in a car crash in 1974 while she was driving to meet a New York Times reporter. Erin Koturski is here with more details on the new audio tapes that could help in the investigation. Erin, just give us a little context here.
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It's really a remarkable case from 50 years ago, Kira. Karen Silkwood, in some ways, is the original whistleblower, at least in the energy industry. She was on her way back in November 1974 to meet a New York Times reporter to raise concerns about her nuclear fuel plant that had to process uranium and plutonium. She was concerned about safety. She she was concerned about workmanship, and she was bringing documents supposedly to the New York Times to expose what had been going on in the Kerr McGee plant.
She died, according to the official narrative, in a car crash after she fell asleep. But now ABC News has unearthed some new evidence that raised questions about that official narrative. It was a story that gripped the nation.
A mile from the plant, she was killed. The mystery, what caused the crash?
28 year old single mother of 3, Karen Silkwood, was on her way to a secret meeting with a New York Times reporter hoping to expose alleged wrongdoings at the nuclear power plant where she worked. Highway patrol determining she fell asleep while driving. She was blowing the whistle on the company. We believe, you know, led to her death. Her family and other investigators never accepted the official findings.
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There's not evidence here that would say miss Silkwood was asleep. Quite the opposite.
Is there a smoking gun in this case that exists somewhere?
There's always a smoking gun somewhere. We just haven't found it yet.
So, Aaron, what do we know about these new audio recordings?
They were uncovered in a warehouse, stacked in with boxes, and it's almost like a needle in a haystack. And they're from an original investigator who says he was told that there were off duty Oklahoma law enforcement officers assigned to surveil Karen Silkwood, including
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So I know you're taking a deep dive on this new episode of Impact by Nightline. What stood out to you the most as you were working on this case?
It is such a nagging mystery that's persisted for 50 years, and a couple of things stand out, Kira. 1 is how many people in Oklahoma still don't wanna talk about it and and how resistant anyone is to to sort of opening this wound. I was also struck because we presented some of the findings, including the audio recordings, the new physical evidence, the the accident recreation by an expert, and we presented all those findings to Karen Silkwood's surviving son. And he says, Kira, that when he thinks back you know, she was only 28. He was just a a kid when his mother was killed.
When he looks at thinks about his mother, he doesn't see her face. He sees the face of Meryl Streep who played her in the movie, and and and just how haunting it is to have a son who doesn't remember his mother because it may turn out she died under rather nefarious circumstances.
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I'm Terry Moran in Washington breaking now on ABC News Live. A powerful earthquake strikes off the coast of California. What we're learning about the impact. And the manhunt is intensifying for the killer of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. The new images of the suspect and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy meet with lawmakers on Capitol Hill.
What they're saying about their plans to drastically slash government spending. But we begin with that breaking news. A powerful magnitude 7 0 earthquake struck the waters off North car California. The quake rattled people living along the coast. Here, you can see some water spilling out from a pool.
Also, chandelier swaying outside somebody's home as the as the earth rolled a little bit out there. The epicenter was just off the coast of California near Humboldt County, California, south of Ferndale and Eureka out there. The quake briefly triggered a tsunami warning before officials canceled it about an hour later. So joining us right now is Jacquelyn Lee live tracking the latest from the Los Angeles Bureau along with seismologist doctor Lucy Jones. So, Jacqueline, begin with you.
What more are we learning about damage and about the consequences of this big shake?
That's right, Terry. So, I mean, the good news is there are no injuries so far reported, but, obviously, things are still very early. But we do know that there are at least 10,000 customers in Humboldt County without power. In terms of damage, nothing significant has been reported. We do know that there is a significant significant crack in the road in Rio Dell, which is a small town, near the epicenter.
And, you know, the the mayor there saying that this crack in the road, it actually shut down the road. So they sent first responders there, because they don't want any injuries, and they're not sure just given the concern of aftershocks if that could grow and and put people in danger. Terry.
Alright, Jacqueline. Thank you. And doctor Jones, 7 0 sounds big, so far. Touch wood, it seems as if the magnitude of this quake isn't matched exactly by the tsunami that were tsunami concerns and the damage. What do you make of this of this quake and about any concern for aftershocks now?
First, we definitely expect aftershocks. The magnitude 7 0 is a quite big earthquake. It happens somewhere in California only every once a decade or so. So there it's not a common event, but it's, something we expect to happen. But magnitude doesn't tell you what damage you have.
You have to also include how far away you are from where that energy is being produced. And since the fault is located offshore, that energy has to travel through the crust to to get to people on land, and therefore, the level of shaking is just gonna be a lot lower. Location, location, location, if you wanna talk about damage for an earthquake. So I'm not surprised at the level of damage that we're seeing. It's what we would expect given that the earthquake's located offshore.
I'd also just comment that this area of California is it's something called the triple junction. There are 3 different tectonic plates that come together there, and it's historically the most seismically active part of California.
Alright. Well, that was very clear, and I I appreciate your explanation, doctor Lucy Jones and Jacqueline Lee. Thanks for your report. Well, the manhunt for the killer who shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in broad daylight in the streets of New York City is now more than 24 hours old after that assassination style killing. Sources tell ABC that the police appear to be closing in on the identity of a suspect.
Investigators released these new images of a man wanted for questioning in connection with that murder. They were taken from a surveillance camera on Manhattan's Upper West Side using a fake ID, to check into a hostel there. Sources also tell us the bullet casings found at the crime scene had the words, quote, deny, quote, defend, and, quote, depose written on them, leading police to investigate the message as a possible hint at the killer's motive. Joining me now with Moore's Avis news, Morgan Norwood, along with Avis news contributor and former FBI agent Brad Garrett. So, Morgan, first, what more do we know about the police investigation into the identity of this suspect?
Hi, Terry. Good to be with you. Yes. Police still working to determine who this suspect is. We had some new images, but also some new video coming in within the past hour.
This new video looks to be the suspect navigating through the subway system, specifically this 57th Street Station in Midtown, and that is just 2 blocks from the Hilton Hotel, the crime scene there. And that was around 6:15 that particular morning. So they had that, but then we also have new details, about the suspect, that he checked into a hostel on the Upper West Side using a New Jersey license, an ID that was not his. Those clear images showing his face from that hostel, and police hoping that the public can identify him. The authorities are also trying to trace where that gun came from, in this shooting.
It it's a a gun that's not popular. It had that long barrel, but didn't necessarily mean that there was a silencer attached to it. But overall, Terry, we're looking at a treasure trove of of evidence because we know that there were shell casings left at the scene. There's the water bar water bottle. There's a candy wrapper.
And all of that at this hour is being run through forensics for any hit on DNA.
Absolutely, Morgan. So, Brad, a long trail of evidence as as Morgan says. And those words etched on the bullets, do you ever see anything like that? What do you make of what the police have, before them right now?
So, no. It's very unique to have anything etched on a weapon or on bullets. So if if you ask me to guess what that's about, you know, this shooter wanted to send a message as to why he was shooting, the CEO, and that that is that message. Look. You've wronged me or wronged my family in some way.
It's probably some version of that. And when you look at the weapon that she's talking about, it's a unique weapon. Apparently, it's British. It's from World War 2. It has not a silencer, but some sort of suppressor built into the gun.
That's why it's so long. The plus to that is that I don't think there's many of them around. I think NYPD has made a comment that they have tracked at least the sale of 1 of them to a gun shop in Connecticut. That could be a really big time lead if, in fact, this gun has been sold in in recent times. So it's all these pieces that the this this gunman is leaving to help us find him.
And what does that tell you about the gunman, Brad? Because it doesn't seem like this is a we're just a a day into this tragedy, this crime, this, assassination. And here, he's on camera. He's left the bullets, with etching. It's an unusual gun.
You've checked into a hostel. It seems like there's a pretty pretty big trail of evidence here.
There's a huge trail of evidence, and think, Terry, about where he did this. He did it in front of other New Yorkers on their way to work in broad daylight in front of the in 1 of the famous hotel where he's going he knows he's gonna be caught on camera both before, during, and maybe after the shooting. He does have an escape route via a bicycle, a block or 2 away. But many of the steps that he's taken, is it is it really driven by he also wanted to make a statement. Now, obviously, I don't know the answer to that, but I look at why people pick locations.
This got this case a lot of publicity, and maybe that was the point.
Well, we hope they find out soon. Brad and Morgan, thank you very much for that. Here in Washington, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami have been meeting with lawmakers on Capitol Hill discussing how they plan to cut federal spending as codirector of president-elect Donald Trump's so called department of government efficiency or DOSH. It's not a a formal department, but it's a big effort by the president-elect. Among those who've been speaking with the 2 billionaires today was House Republican speaker Mike Johnson.
You're gonna see a lot of change around here and in Washington and the way things are run. We need to make government more efficient, and that is what this whole objective is. It's what the Doge, effort will be about.
And Trump's defense defense secretary Pete Hegseth was also back on Capitol Hill today meeting with senators hoping to save his nomination as he seeks to fend off accusations from his past. Earlier, he told our Jay O'Brien that president-elect Trump still supports him.
He's behind us all the way. Spoke to him this morning. It's been a wonderful process. There's an incredible amount of knowledge in the US senate, in the senate armed services committee, men and women who have studied these issues, have invested their lives in it, and as someone who's hoping to earn their support as the nominee for secretary of defense, I welcome that knowledge.
Alright. So let's bring in the ABC News contributing political correspondent and coauthor of political playbook newsletter, Rachel Bate, along with ABC News senior reporter, Kathryn Faulders, in West Palm Beach, Florida near Mar a Lago. So, Rachel, first to Muskin Ramaswami on the hill. That's that's a show. What do we know about their meetings?
And and more importantly, this huge ambition that they have that they're tasked with by president-elect Trump to cut $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal budget. The congress spends that money. Do they wanna cut all that?
Yeah. A huge number, Terry, but I'll just first mention right off the bat that Republicans are like kids in a candy store right
now with these 2
up here on Capitol Hill. I mean, anytime you talk about cutting government spending, Republicans obviously get very excited. But when you add these 2 people in particular, to the conversation, these are 2 very successful businessmen who have a track record of running companies successfully, including making cuts. Republicans are just ecstatic to have them in the mix. But, look, as you know, Terry, the devil's is really in the details here.
I mean, look, you talk about cover cutting $2,000,000,000,000 worth of spending, that is much easier said than done. I mean, the reality is that things like Social Security, you know, Medicare, entitlements, those are the things that are the biggest drivers of the national debt. Donald Trump has said he doesn't want to touch those things in terms of cuts. So how are they gonna find this sort of money to cut? Because when you identify, say, a bridge or, you know, a military base maybe where you wanna make cuts, chances are you're gonna have a lawmaker up here on Capitol Hill who is, you know, overseeing, those projects in their own, on their own, you know, turf back home, and they're gonna fight for them.
So it's gonna be easier said than done, Terry.
Well, that's for sure. So, Catherine, let's turn to Pete Hegseth. You know, sometimes nominees, they have to endure a kind of drip, drip, drip of allegations from their past. It's been a Niagara for him. But, he says that, that Trump still supports him.
What what more can you tell us about the status of, the Hegseth nomination in Trump world?
Yeah. That's what Hegseth has said publicly. He said that he's had multiple conversations with Donald Trump and that Trump has told him to keep fighting, that he still supports his nomination to be the secretary of defense, Terry. But the reality is we haven't heard from the president elect himself on this. He hasn't come out and forcefully defended Hegseth.
Sources close to the president-elect essentially say, look. This is his to lose. He has to, convince senators that he's the right person, for this job. Now inside Trump world, they are particularly worried about the women Republican senators. There's 9 of them.
Only 1 of them has said come out forcefully and said that she would vote for Pete Hegseth. Now none have said no, but they just haven't answered the question. So that is, worrisome to those in Trump world because he obviously can't lose, all of those women, and they need to essentially figure out in Trump world whether or not these women senators will vote for him. They're having a little bit of a difficult time figuring out where they stand, on his vote, for secretary of defense. So that is the main concern right now while he is telling HEGSeth, at least in HEGSeth's words, to keep fighting.
Trump's also talking to other people about this job. He is talking to, Ron DeSantis, for example, according to sources that we spoke to. He asked DeSantis if he'd be interested in the job. He didn't say that he was going to ask HEGSeth to withdraw, but if it came to that, and then DeSantis did say, indicate back to Trump that he would be interested in the job if HEGSED were to withdraw. So there's a lot of of moving parts here.
It doesn't seem like it's at that point now where HEGSED, will withdraw, but this is clearly a huge focus of people in Trump world, of the communications team. They've had multiple conference calls about how to handle this from a comms perspective and from a legislative perspective. Terry.
Yeah.
It's a nomination in trouble, especially when that when the president says, hey. It's yours to win or lose, and isn't making calls. Rachel Bade, Catherine Faulders. Thanks. We'll see you later.
So also on Capitol Hill today, a fiery shouting match as the acting secret service director testified before house investigators who were looking into the assassination attempts against Donald Trump. It came as Ronald Roe was telling the house task force about changes he says the secret service is making to ensure an assassination attempt doesn't happen again. At 1 point, Republican Texas congressman Pat Fallon suggested that Roe put president Biden's Secret Service detail out of position during this year's 911 remembrance ceremony so he could sit behind the president. Well, that set off this exchange.
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we seem to see those more and more these days. But, before the exchange, Roe asked congress for more money to help the Secret Service step up security. He said it's already putting additional funds to good use. Probably not gonna get Fallon's vote there. Well, now to a story we've been following all day.
The justice department says that Memphis police routinely used excessive force, and they discriminated against black people. It's part of a newly released report that uncovers other alarming actions taken within the Memphis police department. DOJ officials, Department of Justice officials, spoke at a press earlier today, and they say that officers who were specifically trained for responding to behavioral health calls still used force without justification.
The justice department has found a pattern or practice of conduct that violates people's civil and constitutional rights. Officers often make tough choices in stressful circumstances. But in Memphis, we have found that officers often use unwarranted serious force in response to low level violations or traffic offenses.
Well, the findings about Memphis come after the justice department launched a comprehensive investigation into the beating death of Tire Nichols by 5 officers last year. The acting US attorney for the Western District of Tennessee that covers Memphis reacted to that report saying, quote, this process and these findings uncovered that our city has a lot of work to do. Joining me now is ABC News, Jack Donte for more on this. So, Jack, this is just 1 of 12 investigations into law enforcement agencies across the US since April 2021. What are the key findings in this report?
And put them in that context.
Alright, Terry. Really troubling findings from the Department of Justice investigation. They had a reasonable cause to believe, that the Memphis Police Department engaged in a pattern or practice that violated people's constitutional rights, violated federal law, and that they routinely used excessive force, that they made unlawful stops, searches, and arrests, that they discriminated against black people, that they also discriminated against people with, behavioral health disabilities. And even children weren't spared the brutality of this Memphis Police Department. 1 instance, they describe an 8 year old who was thrown by a police officer and later handcuffed.
That end that that child, 8 years old, had 9 separate encounters with Memphis Police. And so, the the findings are just deeply troubling. As for the city of Memphis and the Memphis Police Department, they've accepted the findings. Ordinarily, you mentioned some other investigations that the Department of of Justice has done that are similar. Typically, these things end in a what's called a consent decree, an agreement between, the city and the department and the department of justice.
It's overseen by a federal judge, that puts some sort of teeth into the recommendations and make sure, that they're filed through. In this case, the city and the department declined to engage in any sort of an agreement with the justice department, so there will be no federal oversight. However, the the city and the department accepted the findings and say that they will move, towards steps towards reform. But, again, there's no teeth behind it. We'll see how far they get.
It's urgent that they do it, though.
Yeah. I know you you and your team will be on that. Jack D'Ate, thank you very much for that report. Well, coming up, violent protests continue in the nation of Georgia after the suspension of, membership in the European Union talks. Why Ukraine today is accusing the country of being pro Russia.
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So today, we're following the latest out of Eastern Europe and where fierce pro European Union protests have gripped the country of Georgia. That country's divided whether or not it should join the European Union. It's been more than a week of tense demonstrations in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi sparked by officials announcing the suspension of EU membership talks. 100 so far have been detained and some criminally charged. Georgian police raided the offices of an opposition political party yesterday, and they arrested its leader in their attempt to curb these ongoing protests.
And you today, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky announced sanctions on 19 members of the Georgian government who he accused of, quote, surrendering the country to Russian control. ABC's foreign correspondent, Britt Klenet, is following all this with the latest, and he she joins me now. So, Britt, this the government of Georgia cracking down on the protests saying Georgia should be part of the European Union. We kinda heard that before. That's what that was 1 of the things that brought on the Ukraine war.
Ukraine wanted to be part of Europe. Putin doesn't want any of these near neighbors breaking away from him. What do you make of what's happening in Georgia? How serious is it?
Well, as you say, it's the key issue in Georgia right now, and it was the key issue in Ukraine too. What we do know is that it looks and sounds like this is part of the government's attempt to root out its rivals. We heard from the Georgian PM saying we will do everything necessary to completely eradicate liberal fascism in Georgia. He said this process has already begun, that these recent developments mark the start of of the end to liberal fascism in Georgia. Now this also sounds like rhetoric that we'd hear from the Kremlin when they, say that they want to root out political rivals.
So there is some echoes there. We heard from, the opposition leader of the Qali party that, you know, he was beaten quite brutally, and detained during a raid. There was footage of him, being taken away, apparently unconscious, by masked security officials. So this is very worrying, and I know a lot of countries are watching this, including the United States, which has now threatened additional sanctions.
Yeah. Just what the world needs, another conflict in that part of the world. Britt Clint, thanks very much. Well, coming up, new discoveries in a decades old mystery as a new generation on social media is taking interest in the death of Karen Silkwood. We're gonna tell you who she is and have details about this case right after the break.
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The death of Karen Silkwood back in the 19 seventies is a mystery that's still sparking interest 50 years later. She's the young mother and a whistleblower who worked at a nuclear fuel production plant, and she was on her way to meet a journalist when she died in a car crash in 1974. Now a new generation on social media is taking up this case. ABC senior investigative correspondent Aaron Katerski is following the story for us.
It was a story that gripped the nation.
A mile from the plant, she was killed. The mystery, what caused the crash?
28 year old single mother of 3, Karen Silkwood, was on her way to a secret meeting with a New York Times reporter hoping to expose alleged wrongdoings at the nuclear power plant where she worked. Highway patrol determining she fell asleep while driving. She was blowing the whistle on the company. We believe, you know, led to her death. Her family and other investigators never accepted the official findings.
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The newly unearthed audio recording suggests that off duty Oklahoma law enforcement officers may have been assigned to surveil and tail Karen Silkwood, including on the night she died. Yet another question poking potential holes, Terry, in a narrative that has persisted for 50 years. Terry?
Fascinating. Erin Kotersky, thank you very much. You can watch the latest episode of Impact by Nightline. What happened to Karen Silkwood, The Lost Tapes? It's now streaming on Hulu.
And follow the podcast Radioactive, the Karen Silkwood mystery wherever you get your podcasts. Well, the news never stops. You can find us anywhere you stream live news. And if you're on the go, we're on the Avis news app and abysnews.com as well. I'm Terry Moran.
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Good evening. I'm Terry Moran in Washington, and we begin with the manhunt for the killer who shot United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson in broad daylight in the streets of New York City. Now more than 24 hours after that assassination style killing, sources tell ABC that police appear to be closing in on an identity of the suspect. Investigators releasing these new images of a man wanted for questioning in connection with that murder taken from a surveillance camera on Manhattan's Upper West Side using a fake ID to check into a hostel there. Sources also note that the bullet casings found at the crime scene had the words deny, defend, and depose written on them, leading police to investigate the message as a possible hint at the killer's motive.
Joining me now with more is ABC News' Morgan Norwood. So, Morgan, what more do we know about the investigation so far?
Yeah. As you pointed out, Terry, officials believe that they're very close to identifying this particular suspect, but the issue is they don't know where he is. They have, seen bread crumbs throughout the city in terms of the pictures and the videos that they've released. Some of those coming, to us within the past few minutes and past hour. We've got new video, but then also with this new picture that shows the suspect without his mask.
It's the clearest photos that we have of him yet. You know, new details coming in that he checked into the hostel. That is where these photos are coming in, to us from the hostel on the Upper West Side using a New Jersey license that wasn't his, Terry. These clear images, again, showing his face. Police leaning on the public and hoping, that they can help identify him, but authorities are also tracing the gun that he used in the shooting.
It's known as a wellrod pistol. It did not have a silencer, but a long barrel that essentially does the same thing. The actual gun has not been found, Terry, so this detail, is just a just a start here. But overall, investigators say that they found a lot of breadcrumbs of what they consider to be a treasure trove of evidence. The shell casings, the water bottle, the candy wrapper, all of it being run through forensics at this hour.
Alright. It is certainly a a fascinating tragic case, and, Morgan, thank you for reporting on it for us. Appreciate it. Well, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami have been meeting here in Washington DC with lawmakers on Capitol Hill. They're discussing how they plan to cut federal spending as codirectors of president-elect Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency or Doge.
They're looking at $2,000,000,000,000 in cuts is what they go what their goal is. And they're among talking with 2 billionaires today was the speaker of the house, Republican Mike Johnson.
You're gonna see a lot of change around here and in Washington and the way things are run. We need to make government more efficient, and that is what this whole objective is. It's what the Doge, effort will be about. Meanwhile,
president-elect Trump's pick to become the secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth. He was also back on the Capitol Hill today, meeting with senators hoping to save his embattled nomination as he seeks to fend off accusations from his past. Let's bring in ABC News' Jay O'Brien live on Capitol Hill along with ABC News senior reporter Katherine Faulders in West Palm Beach, Florida near Mar a Lago. So, Jay, first, what else did we learn from Musk and Ramaswami's meetings there on Capitol Hill today? This massive goal, $2,000,000,000,000 cut in spending.
How's that going over up there?
Yeah. $2,000,000,000,000 is a significant effort as you know, Terry. And it went over well in a room of Republican senators and members of the house who have long said they wanna see significant government spending cuts, but it's unclear to the members that I talked to coming out of that room of exactly what the plan is to pull that off. Now speaker Johnson has said that more will be coming out in the coming days and even weeks about this DOGE, this government efficiency effort. Steve Scalise, the number 2 Republican in the house, saying that he's strongly behind this as well and saying that there was a good meeting between Vivek Ramaswami and Elon Musk and these various members of the house and senate.
But, again, still very much unclear of how concrete this plan is. There was even 1 point in this meeting, Terry, where there was a kind of open mic session, I'm told. The Republicans got to go to the mic and pitch what they think should be cut out of the federal government. And I'm told from lawmakers there that they were pitching everything under the sun, and there was no clear consensus amongst the lawmakers in the room as to what they wanna see cut. So an ambitious goal, Republicans on the hill on their side, Terry, in enacting this goal, but unclear how they would get to that massive $2,000,000,000,000 number, especially when Republicans were in that meeting say they are adamant that they don't wanna touch entitlement programs like Social Security and Medicare, which as you know, are the biggest items in the federal government.
Nonetheless, this is a clear overhaul that Elon Musk says he wants to the federal government. He said, Terry, and he told lawmakers in the room, I'm told, according to sources, quote, we don't live in a democracy. We live in a bureaucracy. Head faking, of course, there to his desire to overhaul the federal government.
Yeah. He's been talking about it for a while. So let's go to the other big story, out of the transition. Pete Hegseth, Trump's nomination nominee to run the Pentagon. He's on Capitol Hill today.
You spoke with him. What'd he say?
Yeah. He said Donald Trump, the president-elect, is fully behind him. I asked him if he had spoken with Trump earlier to today. He said he had. He said that Trump has given him his full support.
Nonetheless, there are still moderate Republican senators at this hour, including female Republican senators who are open questions as to whether or not they would back Pete Hegset because of his sexual assault and sexual misconduct allegations, which he denies, because of his lack of experience in any kind of senior national security role, because of the allegations of mismanagement at the veterans charities he ran, which he also denies. Pete Hegseth, though, saying he wants to overhaul, another word from earlier, the Pentagon, and he's in line with Donald Trump in doing that. Here's what he told reporters earlier on Capitol Hill.
He's behind us all the way. Spoke to him this morning. It's been a wonderful process. There's an incredible amount of knowledge in the US senate, in the senate armed services committee, men and women who have studied these issues, have invested their lives in it, and as someone who's hoping to earn their support as the nominee for secretary of defense, I welcome that knowledge.
But some of those conversations not going as well as Pete Hegseth might have liked, Terry. He met with Joni Ernst yesterday, who is a sexual survival survivor combat veteran. Pete Hegseth said he doesn't think women should serve in combat. So that was a critical meeting for Pete Hegseth. Could he cur turn Joni Ernst into a yes vote?
And Joni Ernst asked on Fox News earlier if she was fully behind Pete Hegseth, and she sidestepped that question indicating that he doesn't have her full support at this hour.
Yeah. It's it's an embattled nomination for sure. So, Catherine, from your perspective on Mar a Lago, and Pete Hegseth up here on Capitol Hill, he says Trump is behind him, 100% behind him. Really?
Terry, it's a good question. I know we've been talking about the the fact that we haven't heard from Donald Trump on this publicly yet, and we still haven't. He has not, yet said anything publicly, at least, whether it be on his social media platform or elsewhere, in support of Hegseth. Now that doesn't mean he doesn't support him according to Hegseth. His conversations with the president-elect, he says that Trump has indicated to him he has his full support.
He wants him to keep fighting up there, on Capitol Hill, but I I do think it's notable that we haven't yet at least heard from Trump on it. And I will say, we've reported that he's been talking to other people, about the job now, not saying that he plans to replace Hegseth. It's not in that context, but he's gaging interest, if you will. We know we've reported Florida governor Ron DeSantis. Trump gaged his interest on this earlier this week, and DeSantis signaled back that he would be interested in the job.
Joni Ernst, up there on the hill is 1 of the, runners up here for this job if hegsepp is to step aside. So at least the view from Mar a Lago, Terry, we know that while they haven't received any firm indication, from senators yet that this vote will fail if it goes to a vote, while they don't know that, they're still trying to gage that. The reality is they're having significant conversations behind closed doors on various different meetings, whether it's political strategy from a communication strategy that has been the focus of much of the discussions over, just across the bridge over here at Mar a Lago.
Yeah. He he's in trouble. Thanks, Seth. No no question about it. Katherine Faulders, Jay O'Brien.
Thanks. Well, Tulsi Gabbard, the former Democratic congresswoman and former presidential candidate, and Donald Trump's pick to become the next director of National Intelligence. But she could face a bruising senate confirmation battle as well as public officials accuse her of voicing an anti American agenda, even parroting Russian propaganda on several occasions. ABC News senior White House correspondent, Selena Wang, has more. She's really an amazing really an amazing person.
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According to the US government, these biolabs are conducting research on dangerous pathogens. These labs need to be shut down immediately, and the pathogens that they hold need to be destroyed.
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Alright. Selena Wang, we wanna thank you for that report. The sources tell ABC News that president Biden is considering preemptive pardons before president-elect Trump takes office. These are pardons people haven't been charged with any crimes at this point. But in discussions with senior aids, Biden's weighing the possibility to protect current and former officials whom they believe could be targeted under the Trump administration.
The concern comes after the president-elect tapped Kash Patel as his nominee for FBI director. Patel has vowed to attack Trump's most vocal critics with the power of the office. Possible names in consideration, for his target include Mark Milley, former, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, former congressman Liz Cheney, senator elect Adam Schiff, and doctor Anthony Fauci. Those are actual names he's named and possible pardons coming from the White House. On South Korea, pressure is mounting there for president Yoon Suk yeol.
Protesters are calling for his resignation following his declaration of martial law earlier this week that sparked fierce protests in Seoul. Opposition parties have also submitted a joint motion to impeach president Yoon with a possible vote coming as early as tomorrow. Let's bring back ABC News foreign correspondent, Britt Clement, for more on this. Britt, what do we know about what seems to be this this vote to impeach Yoon? Is that gonna happen?
Well, the opposition is certainly pushing for it even as Yoon's own party have said they won't be supporting it. What needs to happen in order for this to actually go forward is that 8 members of Yoon's own party have to actually abandon him and vote for this motion. So we're not exactly sure if that's going to happen, but what we do know is that the opposition have said that even if this doesn't work, they will continue to push for impeachment. It needs 2 thirds in the 300 seat parliament in order for this to happen. And if it does go through, it'll then go to a constitutional court.
If they decide that it will go through, I think it's 6 out of the 9 members of that court need to to agree to it, then he will lose his presidential powers. Even though he will still stay in the presidential residence, he will hand it over to the prime minister. Now, obviously, the world has been watching this very closely. The state department saying that they have questions. We know that the US and South Korea have a decades old military pact saying that they will come to each other's aid in case of any conflict.
US military installations, as you know, Terri, dotted across South Korea, And South Korea is a vital ally for the US, against threats from, China, from North Korea, and Russia. So, certainly, if this president decides to dig his heels in even further, which it looks like this gamble has backfired, then there may be consequences beyond his own borders.
Such a bizarre incident, Brett. Out of in the middle of the night, he declares martial law, tries to get his troops to take over the parliament. The parliamentarians get themselves out of bed. They jump the fence and beat the special forces to it, and then they try to impeach him. As you point out, there's a very important country, 1 of the top 10 economies in the world, a close US ally.
And now the defense minister, I guess, has resigned in South Korea. How unstable is this situation?
Yeah. You said bizarre. I think bizarre, shocking, disappointing to the people of South Korea who have enjoyed 30 years of a very robust democracy. And for him to come out in the middle of the night and saying, you know, martial law will be in place, I think many people were were shocked, and that's why we saw the numbers come to the streets of Seoul. As you say, the defense minister, he's now, stepped down.
He actually asked to be, to to be relieved of his position on on Wednesday, but he needed the approval of Yoon first. Now Yoon is also being investigated for insurrection too. And for that, he doesn't have any kind of presidential immunity, so it's gonna be interesting to see what happens there. Some of the opposition lawmakers and South Korean media suggesting that the defense minister, had a large role in, why Yoon decided to implement martial law, but it doesn't look like many of the other high ranking officials knew much about it. You know, as you say, you know, this is a beacon of democracy, and it's also a key linchpin for stability on the Korean peninsula and in Asia.
So many people watching this closely. And, certainly, as this unfolds, there are huge causes for concern here in the states as well.
No question about it. Britt Klinet, thanks for doing double duty on the conference, the conflict in Georgia, the country of Georgia and South Korea covering the world for us. Thanks very much.
Anytime. Thanks, Tara.
Well, coming up, we're gonna talk about that violent protest continuing in the nation of Georgia after the suspension of European Union membership talks, why Ukraine today is accusing that country of being pro Russia? Brit returns right after this break.
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So today, we're following the latest out of Eastern Europe and where fierce pro European Union protests have gripped the country of Georgia. That country's divided at the whether or not it should join the European Union. It's been more than a week of tense demonstrations in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi sparked by officials announcing the suspension of EU membership talks. 100 so far have been detained and some criminally charged. Georgian police raided the offices of an opposition political party yesterday, and they arrested its leader in their attempt to curb these ongoing protests.
And you today, Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky announced sanctions on 19 members of the Georgian government who he accused of, quote, surrendering the country to Russian control. ABC's foreign correspondent, Britt Klenet, is following all this with the latest, and he she joins me now. So, Britt, this the government of Georgia cracking down on the protests saying Georgia should be part of the European Union. We kinda heard that before. That was 1 of the things that brought on the Ukraine war.
Ukraine wanted to be part of Europe. Putin doesn't want any of these near neighbors breaking away from him. What do you make of what's happening in Georgia? How serious is it?
Well, as you say, it's the key issue in Georgia right now, and it was the key issue in Ukraine too. What we do know is that it looks and sounds like this is part of the government's attempt to root out its rivals. We heard from the Georgian PM saying we will do everything necessary to completely eradicate liberal fascism in Georgia. He said this process has already begun, that these recent developments mark the start of of the end to liberal fascism in Georgia. Now this also sounds like rhetoric that we'd hear from the Kremlin when they, say that they want to root out political rivals.
So there is some echoes there. We heard from, the opposition leader of the Qali party that, you know, he was beaten quite brutally, and detained during a raid. There was footage of him, being taken away, apparently unconscious, by masked security officials. So this is very worrying, and I know a lot of countries are watching this, including the United States, which has now threatened additional sanctions.
Yeah. Just what the world needs, another conflict in that part of the world. Britt Clint, thanks very much. Well, coming up, new discoveries in a decades old mystery as a new generation on social media is taking interest in the death of Karen Silkwood. We're gonna tell you who she is and have details about this case right after the break.
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The death of Karen Silkwood back in the 19 seventies is a mystery that's still sparking interest 50 years later. She's the young mother and a whistleblower who worked at a nuclear fuel production plant, and she was on her way to meet a journalist when she died in a car crash in 1974. Now a new generation on social media is taking up this case. ABC News senior investigative correspondent Aaron Koterski is following the story for us.
It was a story that gripped the nation.
A mile from the plant, she was killed. The mystery, what caused the crash?
28 year old single mother of 3, Karen Silk Wood, was on her way to a secret meeting with a New York Times reporter hoping to expose alleged wrongdoings at the nuclear power plant where she worked. Highway patrol determining she fell asleep while driving. She was blowing the whistle on the company. We believe, you know, led to her death. Her family and other investigators never accepted the official findings.
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The newly unearthed audio recording suggests that off duty Oklahoma law enforcement officers may have been assigned to surveil and tail Karen Silkwood, including on the night she died. Yet another question poking potential holes, Terry, in a narrative that has persisted for 50 years. Terry?
Fascinating. Aaron Kattervsky, thank you very much. You can watch the latest episode of Impact by Nightline. What happened to Karen Silkwood, The Lost Tapes? It's now streaming on Hulu.
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This as Trump's embattled nominee for secretary of defense continues his push to shore up support of med misconduct allegations. And a justice department investigation finds the Memphis Police Department linked to a pattern of excessive force in violating the US constitution. What we know about these findings in the justice department's report. We're gonna begin with the manhunt for the killer who shot UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in broad daylight in the streets of New York City. Now more than 24 hours after the killing, sources tell ABC that police appear to be closing in on an identity of the suspect.
Investigators are releasing these new images of a man wanted for questioning in connection with that murder taken from a surveillance cam camera on Manhattan's Upper West Side using a fake ID to check into a hostel there. Sources also noting that the bullet casings found at the crime scene had the words deny, defend, and depose written on them, leading police to investigate the message as a possible hint that the killer's motive. Joining me now with more is ABC News' Morgan Norwood along with ABC News contributor and former FBI agent Brad Garrett. So, Morgan, first, what do we know about the police investigation into the identity, these new leads they've got?
Hi, Terry. Well, we know police are just crawling all over the city looking for this guy. I mean, they say that they're closing in on the identity, but at this point, he hasn't shown up just yet. They've released throughout the day several pictures, several images, the suspect moving throughout the city. There's 1 of him in the subway station not too far from the scene at that Hilton Hotel, in Midtown, the shooting scene there.
And the new details, that he checked into a hostel on the upper west side using a New Jersey license that, of course, was not his. And then we've got these clear clear images from that hostel that show his face as well. At least hoping the public can identify him. They've offered a $10,000 reward. Authorities are also tracing where the gun that was used in this attack came from.
It is known as a Welrod piss pistol. It's British. It did not have a silencer, but it does have a long barrel that apparently does the same thing. The actual gun has not been found, so the detail about the make is just simply a start at this point, Terry. But overall, investigators say that they have found a trove of evidence, those casings, the water bottle found at the scene, the candy wrapper, all of that is gonna be run through forensics to try to get a DNA match.
A lot of evidence, Brad, and those etchings on the bullets deny, depose, defend. What does it all led up to at this point?
It ends up to somebody that appears to have a real issue with UnitedHealthcare, and that shouldn't surprise anybody. Right, Terry? I mean, health care providers, insurance companies connected to health care, you know, have to make decisions about not awarding somebody money or cutting off their payments or whatever it might be, it it creates a lot of anger. Is this particular person 1 of those folks or representing somebody, a loved 1, that something happened to them because of a lapsed policy, a canceled policy, whatever it might be. But if you take that and assume for a minute that that's true, then you look at all these things.
Morgan mentioned a number of them. The etchings on the shell cases, the location of where he did this, the unique type of weapon. I mean, the last thing you want if you are gonna go kill somebody is a weapon that's more easily able you're able to identify and possibly track because there aren't very many of them. I mean, it sort of shows you he's he has taken some safety steps, but he's taken a lot of them that aren't. And if you combine that, in my view, with where he committed this shooting in broad daylight, high risk crime, but also high coverage crime.
And maybe that's what was 1 of the goals for him. It was maybe worth the risk because, obviously, up to this point, he's gotten wet gotten away with it.
And talk a little bit about, Brad, about the target, this this this man, Brian Thompson, who is, you know, a father, husband, had spent 20 years working his way up the corporate ladder there. We don't see much of this in this country. In some countries, Italy, they do because CEOs are constantly under protection. Not in this country. And and I wonder what it tells you about the times or about this particular subject.
As you say, people are angry about the American health care system.
So it's unclear, obviously, Terry, if if in fact that that Brian Thompson was the target, maybe what he represented, CEO of a con of a company that the shooter, hates for a number of reasons. So it just may be what what Brian represents, not him personally. Now that you can flip that around, of course, and that there was mentioned by his wife that they've gotten threats. That'll have to be sorted out.
Yeah. And that certainly is is worth following, but I'm sure they are with her, and one's heart goes out to her and those children. Morgan, what more are we learning about Brian Thompson, about the victim?
Well, Brad just mentioned his wife. We're learning about Brian Thompson and his wife, Paulette. They lived in, separate homes, but in the same area of Minneapolis appearing, to be the same neighborhood, actually, living separately for years, according to records. Neighbors say that they're absolutely shocked, that Brian Thompson was a really impressive person, saying that the couple never really showed any sort of signs of strain. You know, bottom line, I think as Brad pointed out, you know, the possible motive points to the suspect being upset with the insurance industry, the health care industry, or even UnitedHealthcare as a whole.
Again, the worst denied defendant opposed written on those shell casings found at the scene. You know, police certainly gonna be diving into that, more so than any sort of, personal grievance or anything having to do, with the couple, Terry.
Right. A lot more investigation to go in this case. Morgan and Brad, thanks very much. Now here in Washington DC, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami, they've been meeting with lawmakers on Capitol Hill discussing how they plan to cut federal spending to the tune of $2,000,000,000,000. That's the goal.
As codirectors of president-elect Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE, not an official government department, but certainly an assignment from the president-elect. Among those talking with these 2 billionaires today was the speaker of the house, Republican Mike Johnson.
You're gonna see a lot of change around here and in Washington and the way things are run. We need to make government more efficient, and that is what this whole objective is. It's what the Doge, effort will be about.
And meanwhile, Donald Trump's pick to become the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth. He was also back on Capitol Hill today meeting with senators hoping to save his embattled nomination as he seeks to fend off accusations from his past. So let's bring in ABC News' Jay O'Brien live on Capitol Hill along with ABC News senior reporter, Katherine Faulders, in West Palm Beach, Florida near Mar a Lago. Jay, first to you here in Washington. What else did we learn from Musk and Ramaswami's meeting there on the hills today?
Well, we learned, Terry, that it was a relatively high level meeting in that they didn't get into tons of the details. They kinda stayed at a 1000 yards above it and talking about broad sweeping conversations of government cuts and reducing what they call government redundancies and maximizing government efficiency in this new initiative that president-elect Trump has tapped Musk and Ramaswami to lead called the, quote, unquote, department of government efficiency or Doge. We do know that Ramaswamy and Musk doubled down on their pledge to cut $2,000,000,000,000 out of the federal government in 2 years. That's a very tall order, and it remains to be seen as to exactly how they wanna pull that off. And 1 of the questions we had for this meeting were, do they get into the specifics?
Do they tell these Republican members of the house and senate exactly what their plan is? And they didn't seem to get into that. Instead, they took this opportunity to solicit advice from members of congress in this kind of open forum, in this open mic kind of session where members went to the mic and they proposed what government cuts they want to see happen. Although I heard from members in the room who say it was kind of a free for all, and there was no real consensus on what cuts exactly should be made. Now speaker Mike Johnson says, stay to watch this space over the next, you know, few days, weeks, if not months, on exactly what the plan is gonna look like.
But certainly at this hour, Terry, there was no clear plan on how to get to these significant government cuts, significant overhauls to the federal government enacted through this meeting.
Yep. Early days still. So, Catherine, what can you tell us about, Trump's thing trying the Trump team's thinking right now about Pete Hegseth, that embattled nominee to become the Pentagon's defense secretary.
Well, look, Trump himself has been quiet on this. We've heard, at least his thinking through sources that we've spoken to who are close to him, but also through Hegseth himself who claims that in conversations with Trump that Trump has told him to keep fighting, that he still supports Hegseth to, run the Department of Defense in his, administration. But the reality here is, Terry, that we haven't heard from the president-elect directly on this yet. He's essentially letting Hegseth fight this battle himself. We know through our reporting that Trump is not reaching out to senators and making calls on Hegseth's behalf like he did, with Matt Gaetz, for example.
So we also know that he's been talking to other people about the job. Now he's not saying that he's going to get rid of them, but if it did come to that where he does withdraw, who does Trump put in that spot? We know he's spoken to Florida governor Ron DeSantis. They were together recently at an event earlier this week. DeSantis has indicated that he would take the job.
We've heard a lot about Joni Ernst too. Senator Ernst, she's in the running as well. So we'll just see what happens over the next couple days here.
Alright. Jay and Catherine, thanks very much for that. Well, sources tell ABC News that president Biden is now considering more pardons, preemptive pardons, before president-elect Trump takes office. Those are pardons before anyone has been accused of a crime. In discussions with his senior aides, Biden is said to be weighing the possibility to protect current and former officials, whom he believes could be targeted under the Trump administration.
This concern comes after the president-elect tapped Kash Patel, of as nominee to become the FBI director. He has vowed to attack Trump's most vocal critics. So let's bring in Navyston's White House correspondent Mary Alice Parks on this. Mary Alice, this is fascinating. So it was shocking enough for many people to see the president part of his own son.
Now he's thought about pardoning political allies who haven't even been charged with a crime. Who's on their list?
Yeah. Who haven't been charged of a crime. Terry, I think that is the part that makes this fundamentally different than the pardon he delivered for his son. This would be extraordinary. We're talking about the White House considering preemptive pardons for people that they believe could be targeted, like you said, by an incoming Trump administration.
People like doctor Anthony Fauci, of course, a lightning rod for Republicans with everything around COVID. General Mark Milley, the former chair of the joint chiefs of staff, who Republicans have blamed over the withdrawal from Afghanistan, as well as members of the January 6th select committee. People like Liz Cheney, Adam Smith Adam Schiff, I should say. You know, it is fair when we look back at some of the campaign rhetoric that was also extraordinary from president-elect Trump. He talked openly about wanting to put members of that January 6th committee in jail for serving on that committee.
So, look, Democrats that are advocating for this, Terry, they say this might be an extraordinary step, but that Trump has made extraordinary threats. And that this moment might call for Biden to step in and intervene in this way to protect people that could be, in theory, at risk if you were to take Trump at his word.
Yeah. It would be an an extraordinary reversal when Biden came in, promised to restore the institutions, and he would leave if he did this, kinda just breaking the pardon power in some ways. We'll see. Mary Alice Parks at the White House for us. Thanks very much.
Well, now to a story we've been following all day long. The justice department now says that the Memphis police routinely use excessive force and discriminate against black people. It's part of a newly released report that uncovers other alarming actions taken within that department. The DOJ officials spoke at a press conference earlier today saying that officers who were specifically trained for responding to behavioral health calls still use force without justification.
The justice department has found a pattern or practice of conduct that violates people's civil and constitutional rights. Officers often make tough choices in stressful circumstances. But in Memphis, we have found that officers often use unwarranted serious force in response to low level violations or traffic offenses.
Well, these findings come after the justice department launched a comprehensive investigation into the beating death of Tire Nicholas by 5 officers last year. The acting US attorney for the Western District of Tennessee, that's Memphis, reacted to this report saying, quote, this process and these findings uncovered that our city has a lot of work to do. So joining me now to talk about it all is ABC News Jack Dote for more on this. Jack, this is just 1 of 12 investigations, I guess, into law enforcement agencies across the US since April of 2021 during the Biden administration. What are the findings in this report?
And put it in that broader context.
That's right, Terry. So, the Department of Justice found that they found reasonable cause to believe that the Memphis Police Department engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violated and deprived people of their constitutional rights and violated federal law. Things like excessive force. They're using head restraints and other means, that that are are dangerous and sometimes deadly. And, things like unlawful stops, searches, and arrests of people.
They discriminated against, black people at an alarming rate, and and black people were subjected to traffic stops and arrests at a higher rate and a more frequent rate than, their white counterparts. They discriminated against black people or against people rather with behavioral disabilities. And even officers that had special training, for encountering people with behavioral disabilities, resorted to violence, in in cases where they're encountering them. Children were not even spared, from some of the brutality and violence of this Memphis police department. Children as young as 8 years old being thrown by police or led away in handcuffs.
So the community that they're there to serve and protect were often victimized by the those very police.
Yes. A stunning story there. And, Jack, Dante, thank you very much for bringing it to us. And we're gonna begin with that breaking news. A powerful magnitude 7.0 earthquake strikes in the waters off Northern California.
The quake rattled people living along the coast. Here you can see water spilling out from the pool. Also, a chandelier swing outside somebody else's home. The epicenter was off the coast near Humboldt County, California. This quake briefly triggered a tsunami warning before officials canceled it about an hour later.
Joining us now, AVS News, Jacqueline Lee. She's live tracking latest from our Los Angeles bureau. So, Jacqueline, this this k this quake, do you feel it? No. I guess you're a little far south for that.
But what more are we learning about it?
That's right, Terry. We're a little far south, but it was very scary for thousands of people, especially in the Bay Area and on the coast up in Northern California. So in terms of damage, state senator Mike McGuire tweeted out that there have been reports of some houses that are off their foundation. In the small town of Riodell, there's been a report of a very large crack in the road. Officials did have to shut down that road as they assess the the, the damage as well as the, the possibility of this, you know, expanding even more because there are aftershocks that happen as a result of such a large earthquake.
Now we do know there are at least 7,000 customers in Humboldt County that are currently without power, but I do wanna point out that is that has decreased in the last hour or so since the initial reports of at least 10,000 customers without power. PG and E have said they are continuing to assess. There are crews out, you know, trying to figure out if there's any more damage. But the good news is there are no injuries so far. We did hear from governor Gavin Newsom earlier today.
He did, sign off on a state of emergency declaration. So what this does, Terry, of course, is this opens up the possibility of more resources for the area. He said resources like the National Guard, and, you know, access to state fairgrounds, just helping officials try to get back on their feet as they assess all of the damage here. Terry.
Alright. Well, we're lucky, obviously, that wasn't worth given worse given the magnitude of that. Jacqueline Lee, thank you for that report. And coming up, tens of millions of Americans are under snow and wind alerts, the impact of a new massive winter storm when we come back.
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At least 18 states from Wisconsin down to the Carolinas and north to Maine are under wind and snow alerts. And in Chicago, windy city, biting winds there coming off the lake. Plunge temperatures, ushering in a midweek winter blast there. Let's bring in ABC's Trevor Alt. He is live from Newark Liberty International Airport.
Trevor, how's the weather impacting travel there?
Well, it is substantial as you might imagine, Terry, when you have 18 separate states that are experiencing some kind of alert. This is impacting truly millions of people for a number of different reasons. The most obvious when it comes to travel is going to be on the highways. All week, we've been seeing these kinds of issues with heavy snowfall in winds, but the winds have substantially picked up just in the past 24 hours or so, especially with this second system that's made its way across. It's made things particularly treacherous in a lot of areas, but especially the great lakes region, whiteout conditions, all that snow coming down, the wind sweeping the snow, horizontally often.
Visibility is terrible. We have seen a lot of pile ups. We've seen a number of deadly incidents throughout the week. That said, driving is not the only form of transportation that's been impacted by these heavy winds, particularly the FAA had warned heading into this afternoon evening it was going to be a difficult stretch of travel, and we have seen some ground delays here in the New York City area at LaGuardia Airport because of these high winds. And we're still waiting for all of these, systems to filter through as we continue to to pile up lake effect snow, which has been a problem all week for the Great Lakes region, Terry.
Yeah. And I know you've been out in it, Trevor, all week as you said. I know of you in Erie, Pennsylvania, but what more do we know about, yet another blizzard warning for the people there?
Yeah. So Erie has been hit perhaps harder than anywhere, when we're talking about how broad the scope of these 2 systems has been. Erie has just been hammered in terms of a high snow total and also high winds. We've seen a lot of, pile ups in the Erie region because the conditions have been so poor. It's basically been a graveyard of abandoned vehicles when you talk about the highways and the roads there in Erie, Pennsylvania.
They have now this blizzard warning. That is, that's different from a snow alert, a wind alert. A blizzard warning means they are getting a ton of snow coming down, and they're getting wind gust up to 60 miles an hour. And that's gonna continue through the rest of this evening and through all of Friday into early Saturday morning. That is on top of the fact that they already got feet of snow.
We know many people who lived in Erie were stranded in their homes earlier this week to the point the National Guard had to be called in to help with emergency response. And now they're looking at this potential blizzard for at least the next 24 hours and beyond that, Terry.
Yeah. Well, at least the kids love it, and and we're really glad you've been out in it for us. Trevor, all thanks very much.
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Some of Donald Trump's top staffing picks are making the rounds on Capitol Hill looking to shore up support. I'm Terry Moran in Washington. In today's big story, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami meet with lawmakers what we're learning about their plans to slash government spending as Pete Hegseth speaks to more Republicans trying to save his embattled nominee to be secretary of defense. And in our spotlight, Bitcoin surges beyond a $100,000 Our panel will weigh in on how Donald Trump could usher in a new era for cryptocurrency in his second term. But we start with our big story.
Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami have been meeting with lawmakers on Capitol Hill discussing how they plan to cut federal spending to the tune of $2,000,000,000,000 as codirector of codirectors of president elect Donald Trump's so called Department of Government Efficiency or Doge. Not a real department, but certainly a place with clout. Among those talking with the 2 billionaires today was the speaker of the house, Republican Mike Johnson.
You're gonna see a lot of change around here and in Washington and the way things are run. We need to make government more efficient, and that is what this whole objective is. It's what the Doge, effort will be about.
Trump's defense secretary pick, Pete Hegseth, was also back on Capitol Hill today meeting with senators hoping to save, his teetering nomination as he seeks to fend off multiple accusations from his past. Earlier, he told our Jay O'Brien that Donald Trump still supports him.
He's behind us all the way. Spoke to him this morning. It's been a wonderful process. There's an incredible amount of knowledge in the US Senate, in the Senate Armed Services Committee, men and women who have studied these issues, have invested their lives in it, and as someone who's hoping to earn their support as the nominee for secretary of defense, I welcome that knowledge.
So let's bring in ABC News investigative reporter, Olivia Rubin. Olivia, this is, these are tough times for Pete Hegseth for sure as it feels like his support is eroding there. And then you've got, well, the 2 billionaires, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami up there, kind of a tale of 2 directions these these staffing picks are going in. What do you make of it?
Yeah. Well, I think you kind of hit the head there, for Pete Hegseth. It seemed like his support was tanking a little bit. And, you know, I spoke to 1 person who kind of acknowledged that this week was a bit rough, but it does seem like it might be turning around a bit. I wanna point out a post, that we saw earlier today from senator Katie Britt.
Now she's not someone that you would expect to defect necessarily from voting for 1 of Trump's nominees here, but she posted, something of support for Hegseth, saying she met with him. She asked him about of the allegations. She was satisfied with his answers and that she will support him. That's particularly key because we know, sources telling ABC News, a bunch of us, Katherine Walters, John Santucci, that they were looking and paying close attention to the women senators. Those are going to be key to confirming Hegsa.
So now you have Katie Britt saying that she is behind him. So potentially some gains there for Pete Hegsa today. And then, of course, you have Elon Musk and you have Vivek who are going in meeting with lawmakers to talk about some of their budget proposals, of course, that they wanna slash, and you hit the number there, $2,000,000,000,000. Just to sort of put that into perspective, like I did for myself, according to the Department of Treasury, the government spent $6,700,000,000,000. So, Terry, they're talking about trying to cut away almost a third of the federal government.
1, sort of policy proposal we heard from them today was aimed at federal employees who don't go into the office, and they were sort of, showing around a report that showed that nearly no government employees are working in from the office. They're working at home. So it's not clear exactly how that's going to tackle the budget. It seemed to be there with some indication that they would let go of employees who aren't in the office working a full 40 hour work week. So interesting to see where that goes.
A little bit of skepticism on that today, but also it seems a lot of excitement on the hill for that.
Yeah. For sure. Although I am skeptical because I drive through traffic very early in the morning, that first shift to federal workers, and there's a lot of them going to the office, it looks like to me. Olivia Rubin, thanks very much for that. So now let's bring the big story to our panel.
Excuse me. And joining us today, ABC News contributor and SiriusXM radio host, Mike Muse, former Trump White House deputy director of communications, Roman Dourabi, former assistant secretary of public affairs at the Department of Homeland Security, Marsha Espinosa, and Republican strategist and former Trump administration official, Tricia McLaughlin. Welcome to all. So, Roma, first, you know, let's talk about Pete Hegseth. This is an embattled nomination as they say.
There's a a a danger sign for him, which is that Donald Trump himself is not making calls on his behalf. What do you think of the decision to pick him and how it's going?
Well, look. Pete is Trump's pick. He put that name forward, and Pete has dedicated his entire life to the military in serving this country. Even when he left and joined Fox News, he has dedicated, nearly every segment that he does to making sure that we're covering the military, that foreign policy is getting talked about the way that it should. And he has made it very clear that going after the woke DEI initiatives, the problems that we have with recruitment in our military is going to be 1 of his top priorities inside of the Pentagon.
So it's no surprise that you're getting a lot of pushback from some of the left, people that don't want to see that kind of move towards conservatism, but that is what we need in the military. And, 1 other thing, there are a lot of lies and rumors going around about Pete Hegseth. The media is not doing its job in vetting their sources when they're giving information about him. I saw today on Twitter somebody with 100 of 1,000 of followers put a picture out of Pete Hegseth in swim trunks at ground 0 at honoring 911 soldiers saying, oh, look. This is your next secretary of defense in his underwear as he pays his respects.
That is a blatant lie. He did the Navy Seal swim that many, many military officials do. And, unfortunately, those kinds of things trying to really, just go under the knife with him is just appropriate, and frankly, someone like Pete Hegseth deserves better. He is a, bronze star medal recipient, and he deserves to have that respect.
Fair enough. Just a a reminder that Twitter or x as it's called now is not the media, and there have been, you know, a lot of fact checks. There have been lawsuits filed. There are there are there are documents that are
is retweeting those stories. The media is sharing those stories.
Well, secretary of defense is a big big position, and harsh scrutiny is gonna be always part of it no matter what party. Marshall, what do you think about all this?
Yeah. So he was on the hill today. We've seen him talking with senators who, yeah, I'm sure are asking a lot of these tough questions, not only about his personal accusations, including, the the the possible drinking problem, but also his qualifications. And, you know, the secretary
of defense is a civilian, so he's not
subject to rules. But the leader of the Pentagon should be a a leadership example of temperance and modernization, not to mention the experience to lead such a very large important organization, which he just doesn't seem to have that experience. He seems like a smart guy with a great Ivy League pedigree who's got great military experience, but, you know, maybe there's another job at the Pentagon, like recruiter or, spokesperson that he can do. But this 1 just seems a little bit outside his realm.
Well and, the senators have yet to weigh in altogether, and they will, of course. And it would help, I guess, some calls from president-elect Trump, which he may make. Trisha, let's turn the page, and turn to Vivek Ramaswami and Elon Musk with this hugely ambitious goal of cutting $2,000,000,000,000 from the several from the federal budget. They're calling a, quote, exciting new day. What what do you make of this this effort and congress, which loves to to appropriate money, that's how we got all this, all these, expenditures, will they wanna cut 2,000,000,000,000 out
of the budget?
Well, the proof is in the pudding. That's for sure. But for decades decades, Republicans have been calling for government reform. But really this is the first time that it seems like government reform is no longer this esoteric academic idea, but it's actually kind of splashy and exciting. The fact that Vivek and Elon coming to the hill was such a spectacle.
It's something that Americans clearly wanna watch, that they wanna engage in. And I think that's great from a bipartisan, manner. People don't wanna see the government bloat like that we've been seeing. When you see Ro Khanna, you see Bernie Sanders, John Fetterman, Jared Moskowitz, all the voicing support and saying that they wanna work with Doge, which I think is incredibly positive for the country. A goal is 2 2 trillion.
I think it's gonna be tough, but Elon and Vivek are both visionaries, and I'm confident they'll work with congress to get this done.
And and, Mike, what what do you think of the potential political implication of of the advisory commission? At some point, they're gonna have to come out and say, here's what we're gonna cut, and it's gonna affect a lot of people.
It will. It only depends upon what agencies they're looking at too as well. So you look at the Social Security agencies, the Democrats will have a lot to say about that. If they start looking at the defense budget, the Republicans will have a lot to say about that. But bigger than all that, Terry, I think what we're not is being underreported is just how much of a conflict of interest that we have with Elon Musk, being a part of this commission or new, advisory committee, if you will.
And particularly, if you look at Elon Musk, over the last 10 to 15 years, he's been able to amass over $15,000,000,000, in government contracts. Not only has he been able to amass that much in government contracts, but he's also too been under, investigations and violations with the different federal agencies. And so he will have the chance at this point now to advise particular cuts, to where he actually makes profit from government contracts. So that goes to the dynamic of when we look at the Department of Justice who's been going after antitrust. They're going after monopolies.
How do we square that and reconcile that with Elon Musk who could be cutting programs, cutting contracts of his competitors? And particularly, look at the race for space and believe that SpaceX, which has such influence over NASA in terms of scheduling and the defense in terms of satellites. We do know there are other companies out there who also too have privatization when it comes to space, and to rockets. So how does that square with that? Also, 2, if you look at just something interesting, department of energy, right, and department of transportation where you have Tesla, where you also too have other automotive industries and carmakers who are wrestling with this idea of emissions and clean energy.
What happens is Tesla becomes favored. What happens to those others? So even if it's the appearance of a conflict of interest it's really as well as being underreported here beyond, how they're gonna, cut and then also to how it's going to be implemented.
That's an interesting point. We we we'll see if he cuts any programs that that benefit, some of his businesses. I guess that'll be that'll be the proof 1 way or the other. Mike, Roma, Marsha, and Tricia, thanks very much. And coming up in our spotlight, the Bitcoin boom.
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Well, in today's spotlight, the price of Bitcoin is surging to new all time highs crossing a $100,000 for the first time ever. A major milestone capping a month long rally that began on election day. And president-elect Trump issued a statement on social media saying, quote, congratulations, Bitcoiners. A 100 $1,000. 3 exclamation points there.
You're welcome. Another 3 exclamation points there. Trump taking credit as investors widely expect a more crypto friendly environment under his administration. So let's bring back my panel, Mike, Roma, Marsha, and Tricia. So, Marsha, first, you know, why why the Bitcoin enthusiasm for Donald Trump administration?
I mean, is he right to take credit?
I don't know. I'm I'm kinda nervous you came to me first because I am no expert here. You know, this is confusing. Trump used to hate it, and now he likes it. It seems like crypto is confusing.
It's an intersection of finance and technology that a lot of us have yet to understand. So, I think that we'll find find out more about this and and what it exactly entails.
That's right.
You know, I don't know anything about it, but I did put a little money. I didn't bet the milk money, but I put a little money in there, sometime earlier this year, and I'm riding that that that wave. So, Tricia, why do you think Bitcoin is it is it just the structural fact that this currency is, is gonna come online, or is Trump have something to do with it too?
Well, he's been seen as very Bitcoin, very cryptocurrency friendly, going to the cryptocurrency conference. I mean, something that they'd never had a candidate for president do. Vivek Ramaswami did the same thing. So we started kinda getting familiar with that realm, but he's also talked a lot about deregulation. There's some speculation they'll have some sort of cryptocurrency czar.
But to me, it's really remarkable how much does the value of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency fluctuates. I mean, on election day, it was just over 69,000. I remember in 2017, I was sitting at the treasury department and looking at the ticker on 1 of the news shows, and it was about $7,000. And I was thinking, oh, it's hit its peak. Well, clearly, what do I know?
But it'll be interesting. Is $100,000 the ceiling, or could this be a $1,000,000 baby?
I mean, it it is hard to say. I mean, it's why I didn't bet the house, obviously, but put a little money down and watched it watched it grow, Michael. Do you think it's gonna go mainstream under Donald Trump?
First of all, Terry, I didn't know you can do such great dramatic reads. So I think you have a future, my friend. The second thing, Terry, I've been so excited to talk with you all day about this. I am obsessed with this conversation of crypto and digital currency. I think partly the reason why you saw such a rally in the in the market regarding crypto is because really is what Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Powell actually mentioned.
He talked about it as it's not here to challenge, the American dollar, which has been a concern of many particular investors too as well. It's just a general sentiment around cryptocurrency. Secondary, he said that this is more a competition and more in a threat to gold. Once he compared crypto to gold, he took this volatile asset and made it more, at least seemingly more stabilized and more of a stabilized risk secure investment, if you will. That set the signals in the market that this is good to go.
Couple, Terry it's interesting something what Trisha said. Not only was president-elect as a candidate during this election cycle friendly to the crypto community, so was vice president Kamala Harris too as well. So we saw both presidential candidates being friendly, to crypto and to digital currency. Not only that, Terry, but we saw so much money, being invested from super packs that were focused specifically on cryptocurrency, Terry, not just invested again to the presidential election, but down ballot. We're really looking at the senators, the governors, the house of representatives.
And so what those investment communities are seeing is a shift in policy seemingly to be more friendly towards cryptocurrency and digital currency coupled with what Jerome Powell said yesterday. I think that was a dynamic that really took this. Now where do we go? Is it secured investment? Only time would tell.
Right. So, Roma, thank you, Mike, for that. That was that was very, very informed. A lot more informed than I am, and I I put money in it. But but, Roma, Donald Trump is putting a lot of pro crypto advisors in very high places, not just, Ramaswamy and Musk, but others.
So what does that mean, do you think, for financial policy, for the economy, you know, in in the early going in the Trump administration?
Well, it'll be interesting to see how the treasury secretary is gonna take this and run with it. But, when you look at it from a voter perspective and how president Trump was able to really rile this base up to turn out for him in November, that's where the really interesting part of this lies. You know, Bitcoin is not a traditional way of investing, and you have people, in the fintech space, like you said, advising president Trump. But at the end of the day, the people that are the rebels are the ones that are gonna be willing to take the risk on something like Bitcoin. Like Trisha said, it's going up.
It's going down. Right now, it's at an all time high. I I saw some supporters at a Bitcoin bar in New York City today saying that they can't wait till it reaches 200,000. 1,000. They're not willing to sell anytime soon.
So I think the enthusiasm is there. It mirrors the enthusiasm, if I will say that president Trump has. So a lot of the voters, I think, look very similar to me, and that's where some of this was able to pull through from him in
November. Terry, if I could add on, I know you gotta wrap.
You bet.
I wanna be make sure this is very clear. This isn't a Republican and Democrat. This isn't a Republican pro crypto. Investors who are both Democrat, Republican, indepen independent, agnostic are all interested, in investing within crypto and digital currency. So this just isn't a MAGA Republican or a Trump thing.
So I was wondering, make sure that point is stressed.
Absolutely. Who's smart to to latch on? But the Bitcoin bar, that is what it sounds like. I I think 1 lesson is don't drink in Bitcoin because that's probably a bad idea. Mike Roma, Marsha, Tricia, thanks very much.
And coming up in our last call, after years of petitions from patrons, McDonald's is finally bringing back a fan favorite menu item. I'll discuss this with my panel right after the break.
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Well, that means it's time now for our last call. Some good news for fast food fanatics. The McDonald's snack wrap is making a comeback. It was discontinued almost a decade ago, but the fan favorite menu item will make its highly anticipated return. For years, customers have actually petitioned to put the snack wrap back on the menu.
It'll be part of McDonald's new McVale menu coming in 2025 with new existing offers as a cheaper option for customers confirmed by the fast food giant's president on Good Morning America today. And while an exact date has yet to be released, you can expect to have a snack wrap in your hand sometime next year. Let's bring back my panel, Mike Roma, Marsha. Tricia. Tricia, let's start with you on the snack wrap issue here.
Beloved for its low price. Right? Can't beat a low price. You think that's gonna make a return that same price?
You know, I don't know about the snack wraps because I'm not an expert, but this is the best segment ever. I love McDonald's. They have the best coffee on the planet, and they really need to fix those ice cream machines across the country.
Yeah. That's true. I'm a quarter pounder with cheese guy. Mike, considering all the bad food press that McDonald's does guess, I I I get I probably shouldn't eat those, but I love them. Does does bring it back to snack wrap, does it change its image a little bit, especially given that they're addressing the main concern a lot of people have?
It's too expensive.
Terry, who knew you and I would be twins? I love the corn pounder with cheese meal. It's the number 3 on the menu. The number 3 value meal. Always get a large size with the soda water club soda.
I love the quarter pounder. I don't like the snack wrap. Sorry. But but I do think it's great. It's a really great cult following.
Shout out to everyone who does love a snack wrap, but don't you touch my quarter pounder with cheese, please. That's all I have to say about that.
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I'm, you know, not a snack wrap guy, but Roma, you think it was a good move for McDonald's to listen to its customers here, bring back this fan favorite?
Oh, absolutely. But I don't know that they're listening to the customers because I think everybody wanted it back at the same price. I mean, I'm old enough to remember when McDonald's had the dollar menu. And now they've got this McValue thing they're pushing, which I guess is the $5 menu. Not sure what a deal that is if you've got 4 hungry kids at the car and you gotta give them all a snack.
Yeah. But, hopefully, they'll bring back some more fan favorites. Mine was the, salad shaker. I don't know if anybody remembers those, but they were fun.
Salads at McDonald's not mine. I think, but, you know, dollar isn't a dollar like it used to be. That's why the the snack wrap wasn't gonna cut it. Marsha, last call. You like the you like the snack wrap?
Yeah. I this was so smart of McDonald's to do, to give the people what they love, you know, and try to get themselves out of that bad e coli situation. I think the snack rep, you know, maybe people feel like they're going, to get that, to feel a little bit healthy, but I'm a triplet with you all. I'm going if I'm going to McDonald's, I'm going straight for the quarter pounder and fries.
The number 3, baby.
There's the number I I'm I'm a number 2 guy, but, love the quarter pounder.
Yeah.
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